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What's On BBC Red Button: 17th April - 7th May

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John Horth | 16:56 UK time, Friday, 16 April 2010

Here's our regular look at what's coming up under the red button...

Election Multiscreen*

Election Multiscreen Throughout the election campaign BBC News is running a special Red Button multiscreen service devoted entirely to the election. Here viewers will find highlights of each day's campaigning including live and recorded elements available around the clock on Sky and Virgin and overnight on Freeview.

On election night itself the service will be expanded to a 5 screen multiscreen on Virgin and Sky with two screens on Freeview bringing you the key moments as the results come in.

Election Campaign
Sky, Virgin & Freeview
Service runs continuously until Thursday 6th May (not available on Freesat)

Freeview:
Sunday 18th April, 12am - 6.50am
Monday 19th - Friday 23rd April, 12am - 7.30am (daily)
Saturday 24th April, 12am - 4.40am
Sunday 25th April, 12am - 3.40am & 6.10am - 7.30am
Monday 26th April - Wednesday 5th May, 12am - 7.30am (daily)

Election Night
Sky & Virgin:
Thursday 6th May, 10.40pm - Friday 7th May, 12pm

Freeview:
Thursday 6th May, 10.40pm - Friday 7th May, 8.45am

(not available on Freesat)

Ashes to Ashes: Remember the 80s*

Ashes to Ashes Think of Ashes to Ashes, and you think of music from the 1980s.
Now for the new series digital viewers can fire up their red buttons and join Gene Hunt for a selection of musical hits from 1983. He'll take you on a voyage of musical discovery from Duran Duran to the Human League, Culture Club to Haysi Fantayzee with a short stop off at Ozzy Osbourne on the way.

Tune in to relive the fantastic fashions, oversized hairdos and great, ahem, music from the decade of decadence, with a little bit of your favourite DCI thrown in for good measure.

The tracks change each week so keep coming back for more of those guilty pleasures.

Sky & Virgin:
Friday 23rd, 30th April & 7th May, 9.55pm - midnight

Freeview:
Friday 23rd April, 11.10pm - 11.50pm
Friday 30th April, 11.10pm - 11.50pm
Friday 7th May, 9.55pm - midnight

(not available on Freesat)

Bang Goes the Theory*

Bang Goes the Theory Get ready to put science to the test with BBC Red Button's Bang Goes the Theory Quiz. From Monday 26th April digital viewers will be able to test their knowledge of the new series by pressing red.

The quiz is bubbling over with an explosive mix of video clips and embedded questions featuring experiments from the show. And it's all hosted by Dallas Campbell making sure that things really will go off with a bang!

Sky:
Monday 26th April, 7pm - 5am (27th)
Tuesday 27th April, 6am - 7pm & 10.30pm - 5am (28th)
Wednesday 28th April, 6am - 5am (29th)
Thursday 29th April, 6am - 5am (30th)
Friday 30th April, 6am - 6.30pm & 9.30pm - 5am (1st)
Saturday 1st May, 6am - 5am (2nd)
Sunday 2nd May, 6am - 12pm & 4pm - 5am (3rd)
Monday 3rd May, 6am - 4am (4th)

Freeview:
Tuesday, 27th April, 6am - 7pm
Wednesday 28th April, 6am - 5am (29th)
Thursday 29th April, 6am - 5am (30th)
Friday 30th April, 6am - 6.30pm
Saturday 1st May, 6am - 5am (2nd)
Monday 3rd May, 6am - 4am (4th)

(not available on Virgin or Freesat)

Over the Rainbow*

Over the RainbowBBC One is off to see the wizard to find a new Dorothy and Toto for Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber's West End production of The Wizard of Oz.

Digital viewers wishing to follow the yellow brick road need only press red to sing along with all the hopefuls.

Join in as they try to impress Sir Andrew, his panel of casting directors and the nation.

Available during the BBC One show.

Sky & Virgin:
Saturday 17th April, 7.15pm - 8.25pm
Saturday 24th April, 7.05pm - 8.10pm
Saturday 1st May, 7pm - 8pm

Freeview:
Saturday 1st May, 7pm - 8pm

(not available on Freesat)

BBC Comedy: Outnumbered*

BBC Comedy: Outnumbered Continuing our commitment to comedy, in April we'll be giving the red button treatment to the new series of Outnumbered.

Press red for exclusive interviews with stars Hugh Dennis and Clare Skinner, and creators/writers/directors Andy Hamilton and Guy Jenkin.
In addition digital viewers will be able to see behind the scenes footage and extended scenes.

More clips from Outnumbered are available on the BBC Comedy website.

Sky:
Saturday 17th - Monday 19th April, 9pm - 4am (daily)
Tuesday 20th April, 10.30pm - 4am (21st)
Wednesday 21st April, 9pm - 4am (22nd)
Thursday 22nd April, 9.55pm - 4am (23rd)
Friday 23rd April, 9.30pm - 4am (24th)
Saturday 24th - Wednesday 28th April, 9pm - 4am (daily)
Thursday 6th May, 9.55pm - 10.10pm
Friday 7th May, 9pm - 4am (8th)

Virgin:
Sunday 18th & Monday 19th April, 9pm - 4am (daily)
Tuesday 20th April, 10.30pm - 4am (21st)
Wednesday 21st April, 9pm - 4am (22nd)
Thursday 22nd April, 9.55pm - 4am (23rd)
Friday 23rd April, 9.30pm - 4am (24th)
Saturday 24th April, 12.30am - 4am & 9pm - 4am (25th)
Sunday 25th April, 9pm - 4am (26th)
Tuesday 27th & Wednesday 28th April, 9pm - 4am (daily)
Thursday 6th May, 9.55pm - 10.10pm
Friday 7th May, 9pm - 9.25pm
Saturday 8th May, 12.30am - 4am

Freeview:
Thursday 22nd April, 11.10pm - 11.50pm
Thursday 6th May, 9.55pm - 10.10pm
Friday 7th May, 9.10pm - 9.45pm

(not available on Freesat)

Luther*

Luther Idris Elba stars in BBC One's new six-part psychological crime drama as John Luther, a detective struggling with his own terrible demons who might just be as dangerous as the depraved murderers he hunts.

Following each episode BBC Red Button viewers can view exclusive insights into the investigation team's private thoughts.

Sky:
Tuesday 4th May, 9.55pm - 4am

Virgin:
Tuesday 4th May, 9.55pm - 11.30pm

Freeview:
Tuesday 4th May, 9.55pm - 11.50pm

(not available on Freesat)

Weekend Wogan*

Weekend Wogan Sir Terry Wogan recently made a triumphant return to the Radio 2 airwaves with a brand new show. Coming live from BBC Broadcasting House's Radio Theatre every Sunday, Weekend Wogan showcases a lively mix of celebrity interviews, music with star guests and performances from Elio Pace's house band. For the first time, the infamous "Janet and John" stories are told in front of a live audience, in the presence of John 'Boggy' Marsh - their hero and inspiration.

Each Sunday the show is filmed, and highlights and special backstage footage are shown on the Radio 2 website from Monday morning.

As a television treat digital viewers will have an opportunity to see one of the great man's shows on BBC Red Button from Monday 12th April. Additionally from Monday 3rd May, for a glorious week we'll be showing the best bits from the whole series ensuring your early May bank holiday will be absolutely lovely.

Sky:
Saturday 17th April, 6am - 6am (18th)
and from Monday 3rd May (timings TBC)

Virgin:
Saturday 17th April, 6am - 8.30am, 11.30am - 6.45pm & 8.55pm - 6am (18th)
and from Monday 3rd May (timings TBC)

Freeview:
Saturday 17th April, 8.40am - 9.50am
and from Monday 3rd May (timings TBC)

(not available on Freesat)

The Danny Baker Show on BBC Radio 5 live

Danny BakerWhen BBC Red Button brought its cameras into the BBC Radio 5 live studios to give viewers a glimpse behind the scenes of the 606 football phone-in show last year, Danny Baker and Tim Lovejoy were among the presenters. Now Danny's back with his Saturday morning show for the 2009/2010 football season and the cameras are continuing to roll!

As well as seeing the man himself (possibly wearing his favourite pirate hat), digital viewers pressing the red button can send in texts and pictures to be shown on screen.
These will be accompanied by all the great content you might expect from 5 live: the weekend's football tables, fixture lists, upcoming commentaries, sports news and details of upcoming Red Button content. Plus, look out for some rather more unexpected content: spoof fixtures and unique animations as Danny sets up audience head-to-heads on the phone.

Brett Spencer, Interactive Editor at 5 live, discusses the visualisation in more depth on the station's blog.

Sky & Virgin:
Saturday 17th & 24th April & 1st May, 9am - 11am

(not available on Freesat and Freeview)

CBeebies Red Button

New CBeebiesBBC Red Button welcomes younger viewers and grown-ups with a sense of adventure to a big, bright and fun new world. The CBeebies interactive service has relaunched!
Now your children's favourite characters are at the heart of the interactive TV experience. A big, new and bright carousel now greets visitors providing easy access to games, other children's interactive services such as karaoke or quizzes, birthdays and star of the week messages.

Different Games
Reflecting the popularity of games for the young audience, a new range of activities has been specially created. The updated service brings with it brand new games for some of the most popular shows on CBeebies, including In The Night Garden and The Green Balloon Club. These new games replace the old ones, which had become increasingly outdated.

Satellite and digital terrestrial viewers will have slightly different offerings from one another. This has enabled us to offer the best games tailored to each system.

BBC Children's producer Damian Vicary discusses the service on the Press Red blog.

CBeebies Red Button is available now on the CBeebies channel, and via page 5900 on other channels.
Sky & Freeview
(not available on Virgin or Freesat)

Question Time Interactive

Question TimeTake part in the studio debate by sending a text message to the Question Time team.
Each week a selection of viewers' comments will appear during the programme on BBC Red Button page 155 along with details of the panel and the topics under discussion.

Available during the show (BBC One)
Thursday 22nd & 29th April & 6th May
Sky, Virgin, Freesat & Freeview

News Multiscreen: Video Choice

News Multiscreen - Video ChoiceEach weekday BBC News' On Demand team will be rounding-up the day's strongest news pictures to bring viewers a two-minute package of highlights. On weekends the tone becomes more conversational when Red Button viewers can watch a topical interview in 'Five Minutes with...' or a round-up of the week's weird and wonderful videos in OddBox.

Video Choice: Weekdays (available around the clock)
Five Minutes With... / OddBox: Weekends (around the clock)
Sky & Virgin
(not available on Freeview or Freesat)

BBC Sport Multiscreen*

BBC Sport MultiscreenCatch up on all the latest Sport via the BBC Sport multiscreen. Headlines are available around the clock with up to five additional streams available to cover the best that BBC Sport has to offer.

Please note that Red Button sport timings are subject to change at short notice.
For the latest information refer to the BBC Sport website.

Coming up...

Snooker: World Championships*
Live coverage of the World Championship Snooker with a choice of tables. Only one table available on Freeview.
Sky/Virgin/Freesat:
Saturday 17th - Wednesday 21st April, 10am - 11pm (daily)
Thursday 22nd April, 2pm - 11pm
Friday 23rd April - Sunday 2nd May, 10pm - 11pm (daily)

Freeview:
Saturday 17th April, 10am - 2.30pm & 5pm - 11pm
Sunday 18th April, 11.15am - 11pm
Monday 19th - Wednesday 21st April, 10am - 11pm (daily)
Thursday 22nd April, 2pm - 11pm
Friday 23rd April, 10pm - 11pm
Saturday 24th April, 10am - 2pm & 5.30pm - 11pm
Sunday 25th April, 10am - 3pm & 6.30pm - 11pm
Monday 26th - Friday 30th April, 10am - 11pm
Saturday 1st May, 8pm - 11pm

Snooker: World Championships - Final Frame replay†
Another chance to watch the final frame of the World Championships.
Sky/Virgin/Freesat:
Monday 3rd May, 11pm - Thursday 6th May, 8.30am
(not available on Freeview)

F1 on BBC Red Button…*
F1 fans can customise their viewing experience via the red button with access to all on-track sessions including Friday and Saturday practice and qualifying with re-runs of classic GPs also available in the build-up to the main event.

On race day itself a choice of three streams will be available featuring split-screen in-car camera feeds, leaderboards and rolling highlights, with the option to listen to either network or BBC Radio 5 Live commentary. After the end of each race on BBC One there will be an additional interactive programme analysing the weekend's events and picking up views from the paddock with race highlights often available the following day.

For more schedule details visit the BBC Sport website.

Chinese Grand Prix from Friday 16th April
Barcelona Grand Prix, build-up from Wednesday 5th May

MotoGP*
BBC Sport will be trackside for every twist and turn of the 2010 MotoGP championship to as Valentino Rossi looks to defend his title.
Qualifying from every race of the 2010 MotoGP season will be available on the BBC Red Button and the BBC Sport website (UK users only).
Across Sport we'll also be showing full coverage of the 125cc and Moto2 races, including qualifying. .
And of course you can watch the race again on our iPlayer service for seven days after it has happened.
For more schedule details visit the BBC Sport website.

Japan GP from Saturday 24th April
Jerez GP from Saturday 1st May

Rugby on BBC Red Button...*
- Rugby League: Challenge Cup
Post-match interactive forum.
Saturday 17th April, 4.30pm - 5pm
(all platforms)

- Rugby League: The Super League Show
Another chance to watch the weekend's Rugby League action.
Sunday 25th April, 11pm - 10am (26th)
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

- Scrum V
Live coverage of the Magners League with audio options.
Friday 23rd April, 7pm - 9pm
Sunday 25th April, 2pm - 4pm
Friday 30th April, 7pm - 9pm
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

Football on BBC Red Button...*
With the 2009/10 season football season nearing its exciting conclusion, here at BBC Red Button we won't taking our eyes off the ball until the silverware is lifted with a host of programming to keep fans up to date with the action…
- Final Score*
Gaby Logan and guests keep you up to date with all the day's football news and results.
Sky/Virgin/Freesat:
Saturday 17th April, 2.30pm - 6pm
Saturday 24th April, 2.30pm - 6pm
Saturday 1st May, 2.30pm - 6pm

Freeview:
Saturday 17th April, 2.30pm - 4.30pm & 5.10pm - 6pm

- Midweek Final Score*
Keep up with the evening's football action. Choose from a selection of commentated matches with live stats, scores and the vidiprinter.
Sky/Virgin/Freesat:
Tuesday 20th April from 7.30pm
Tuesday 27th April from 7.30pm

Freeview:
Tuesday 20th April from 7.30pm

- Football League Show Repeat*
All the goals, round up and debate from the Football League. Presented by Manish Bhasin.
Sky/Virgin/Freesat:
Sunday 18th April, 1.05am - 12pm
Sunday 25th April, 1.05am - 8.30am
Sunday 2nd May, 1.05am - 12pm

Freeview:
Sunday 2nd May, 7.45am - 9.45pm

- Friday Focus
Join Mark Lawrenson for his Premier League predictions along with pundit interviews.
Saturday 17th April, 4.30am - 8.30am
Saturday 24th April, 6am - 10am
Friday 30th April, 6pm - 8.30am (1st)
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

- Match of the Day Live
Live coverage of the Championship play-off final with audio options.
Sunday 2nd May, 12.30pm - 3.30pm
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

Diving: World Cup
Live coverage of the World Cup Diving from Sheffield.
Sunday 2nd May, 12.30pm - 3.30pm
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

Gymnastics*
Live coverage of the European Championship Gymnastics.
Saturday 24th April, 1.50pm - 5.30pm
Sunday 25th April, 1.35pm - 5.30pm
Saturday 1st May, 2.50pm - 5.30pm
Sunday 2nd May, 3pm - 5.30pm (delayed on Freeview: 5pm - 7.30pm)
(all platforms)

London Marathon
Live and extended coverage of the Men's and Women's races plus highlights.
Live Sunday 25th April, 8.30am - 4pm & 7pm - 6am
Marathon Extra
Sunday 25th April, 2pm - 3pm
Highlights
Sunday 25th April, 7pm - Wednesday 28th April, 10am
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

Badminton Horse Trials
Live coverage of the Badminton Horse Trials.
Sunday 2nd May, 10.50am - 5pm
Monday 3rd May, 2.15pm - 3pm
(all platforms)

Cricket: World Twenty20
BBC Radio 5live Sports Extra commentary with cricket scorecard, statistics and photos.
Monday 3rd May, 6.30pm - 10pm
(Sky/Virgin/Freesat. Not available on Freeview)

BBC Sport is available 24 hours a day on
Sky, Virgin, Freesat & Freeview*
(*limited coverage on Freeview, †unavailable on Freeview)

Comments

  • 1. At 5:55pm on 16 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    The snooker is going to cause a nightmare and it's one sport where additional evening coverage on BBC4 for example would be justified considering BBC2's hours have not been extended (though personally like with cricket it's also one sport I think the BBC are best recording then playing at about 10 times the speed later!).

    The "not available on Freeview" list from BBC Sport for the rest of the month is pretty ridiculous. I know no decision is easy and it's annoying that World Cup Diving isn't seemed more worthy than early rounds from the snooker, yet surprisingly European Gymnastics gets the nod ahead of Final Score.

    Now as a sports fan rather than football fan I approve of that (as scores can be found on Soccer Saturday or via the text pages), but I'd expect to be in the minority.

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  • 2. At 7:37pm on 18 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    We need more interactive streams

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  • 3. At 10:05am on 19 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:

    I agree with #1 Brekkie's post. Why can't some snooker be shown on BBC4? Take last night's coverage for example - Hendry's game was shown on BBC2 till 8pm - then for those watching the other table on 301, it was just cut off in the middle of the frame, and went straight to Hendry! I think extended coverage on BBC4 would be a great idea - i'm not saying every evening during the championships - but especially during the second week or something. One interactive stream on Freeview is just not enough - Satellite and Cable have up to 6 - is there any way the second stream can start again?

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  • 4. At 10:57am on 19 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #3. At 10:05am on 19 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:

    "I agree with #1 Brekkie's post. Why can't some snooker be shown on BBC4?"

    Better still, put it on BBC3, in fact BBC3 could become the BBC's (digital) Sports channel - and if CBBC and CBeebies were combined into the one channel "BBC Sports Channel" could be 24hrs...

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  • 5. At 2:11pm on 19 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Snooker and BBC3 don't go together though - it would fit much more neatly on BBC4 with it's older audience. And BBC Sport doesn't need a 24-hour channel - the interactive solution (at least with more than one stream) gives them the flexibility they desire as sports channels always find themselves with days where they've got several clashing events, and then days when they have to fill the schedules but have nothing live to show.


    It's amazing though how many problems losing the one stream has caused in just 6 months - and it'll only get worse in the summer, in June especially. What worries me further is the idea which has been suggested that BBC2 will show less live sport in the future, meaning even more shunted to the red button, which means even more that Freeview viewers will miss out on.

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  • 6. At 2:30pm on 19 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #5. At 2:11pm on 19 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Snooker and BBC3 don't go together though - it would fit much more neatly on BBC4 with it's older audience.

    Huh, that from someone who keeps suggesting that sport on BBC-P would be OK!

    The fact is, BBC3 has nothing but repeats of BBC1 programmes and general tat, it already shows some sport (the F1 highlights for example), so to suggest that sport doesn't fit is ignoring what is a fact anyway! No, BBC3 should be closed and made in to a dedicated BBC Sports Channel. BBC4 has far to much cultural and original content programming for broadcast time to be devoted to sport, a lot of BBC4's content can't be found on any other FTA channel now.

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  • 7. At 3:01pm on 19 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    [Further to my reply @ #6...]

    #5. At 2:11pm on 19 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "Snooker and BBC3 don't go together though - it would fit much more neatly on BBC4 with it's older audience."

    Hmm, have you not noticed the average age of snooker players these days Brekkie, even quite young kids are members of snooker clubs, gone are the days when one had to be at least 35 years old, by 40 some professional players are relegated to the minor, exhibition or commentary circuit!

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  • 8. At 8:06pm on 19 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    BBC 2 is the problem at the moment

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  • 9. At 9:56pm on 19 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #8. At 8:06pm on 19 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    "BBC 2 is the problem at the moment"

    Care to tell us what you think the problems are?

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  • 10. At 07:43am on 20 Apr 2010, Sue_Aitch wrote:

    I have been trying to find out why Red Button and Ceefax have stopped publishing Newsround Press Pack reports and discoverd the Newsround team now ask for children to upload their videos to the team instead of written reports.

    It is a shame the written word has been sidelined and there is no longer a page for children's own news reports.

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  • 11. At 10:51am on 20 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:

    Last night... Snooker at 7pm
    BBC2 Davis v King
    301 Davis v King

    Now, ok, after 8pm, it's fine to show Davis v King - it was perhaps the bigger of the two matches last night... but please, between at least 7pm and 8pm whilst there's coverage on BBC2, show the other table on 301!

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  • 12. At 12:43pm on 20 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    I guess the problem is with only one stream they have to piss off some people. If they have different games on BBC2/301 between 7-8pm, then at 8pm either the BBC2 game or the 301 game needs to be dropped. I guess by not offering the first hour of a game they will drop at 8pm they're limiting complaints.

    Again though why bother airing it in the evening if you're only going to air an hour on BBC2. As suggested above, continue coverage on BBC4, or at the very least as more is supposed to be on the main channels to compensate for the loss of that crucial second stream, extend coverage on BBC2 until at least 9pm.

    Or better still, put pressure on those in charge of snooker to make it more viewers friendly so games don't last three days!

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  • 13. At 1:16pm on 20 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    12. At 12:43pm on 20 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "As suggested above, continue coverage on BBC4,"

    ..and then get even more complaints from those who have their BBC4 enjoyment spoilt...

    "Or better still, put pressure on those in charge of snooker to make it more viewers friendly so games don't last three days!"

    What an utterly clueless comment, and you call yourself a sports fan, unbelievable!

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  • 14. At 1:28pm on 20 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:

    Ok, let's put it to a vote... (this should be interesting)
    If you think when there's live coverage on BBC2, 301 should show a different match, vote YES in a message, if not put NO!!!
    I'll vote YES - I understand Brekkie 12# - people would be annoyed at 8pm if the match gets cut off... but at least they'd have a choice of two tables for an hour, and i miss flicking from table to table to see what's happening!

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  • 15. At 2:58pm on 20 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Would a split-screen be a solution for snooker? It wouldn't be practical for most sports, but considering snooker is generally a fixed shot over the table perhaps the benefit of having the option to switch between the two would outweigh the issue of the image only being 1/4 screen in this case.


    All of course short term solutions - the only real solution to this problem is for the BBC to find the space for an extra channel either on it's own mux (which should be possible when you look at the other muxes), or on another mux - which we know is possible except the BBC would rather team up with Arquiva and sell the slots instead.

    We've got the World Cup, Wimbledon and the Commonwealth Games (now confirmed) to come this year - all of which will in the same way as the Winter Olympics have their coverage compromised if a solution isn't found promptly.

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  • 16. At 4:35pm on 20 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #15. At 2:58pm on 20 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "Would a split-screen be a solution for snooker?"

    No, how would it work on a 10" (or any) 4:3 (portable) set, it's bad enough now that some captions are failing outside of the 4:3 'safe area' never mind active picture content, think about it!

    "perhaps the benefit of having the option to switch between the two would outweigh the issue of the image only being 1/4 screen in this case."

    Err, if I remember correctly, that would need two streams plus a third (low bandwidth) stream to carry any interactive mask required, if the BBC were to make two streams available they might as well just reinstate 302...

    "We've got the World Cup, Wimbledon and the Commonwealth Games (now confirmed) to come this year - all of which will in the same way as the Winter Olympics have their coverage compromised if a solution isn't found promptly."

    Just accept that no all content can be shown live - or even on the day, and if sport was made a special case why not (for example) politics, the UK needs at least two more political streams/channels so that the Lords and the Select Committee rooms can have proper coverage, and if we accept that the EU parliament is also important to the citizens of the UK then a fourth stream/channel is needed to cover that live when in session.

    As the saying goes, you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time...

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  • 17. At 11:37am on 21 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    The difference is the audience for sport is at least 10 times greater than the audience for politics - and with space limited it's the wants rather than the needs of the licence payer which need to be considered first.

    And your comments about politics backs up exactly what I've been saying and you've been arguing about. BBC Parliament isn't necessarily the best way to cover it as a linear channel, and were it dropped in favour of a second interactive stream (which during parliament would be used for live coverage), you might find both you and I could get what we want.


    Back to snooker and the split screen - I meant one split screen (similar to the Election Multiscreen), rather than a screen linking to two full screen feeds. It wouldn't be ideal at all, but it's the only way the two tables could be covered at the moment. And perhaps like the secret code you could use on the news multiscreen before it was axed it could be enabled that you could expand the two screens to a more reasonable size (but not quite full screen) too - though again there is a compromise over quality.

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  • 18. At 1:06pm on 21 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #17. At 11:37am on 21 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "The difference is the audience for sport is at least 10 times greater than the audience for politics"

    But politics is far more important than sport will ever be...

    "and with space limited it's the wants rather than the needs of the licence payer which need to be considered first."

    No, what the people NEED should be first and foremost, no one needs sport, and if it was merely down to what (the majority of) people wanted then sport would not get a look in at all as it would be wall to wall soaps and music videos...

    "And your comments about politics backs up exactly what I've been saying and you've been arguing about. BBC Parliament isn't necessarily the best way to cover it as a linear channel,"

    Exactly the same can be said about sport, probably more so, considering that sport (being a spectator) is a 'lifestyle' choice, how and why the country is run in your name is not, all should have free and easy access to political coverage and events - that means first and foremost radio coverage, second, television and only then IP and other protocols.

    "and were it dropped in favour of a second interactive stream (which during parliament would be used for live coverage),"

    Sorry but you still don't seem to have a clue as to the purpose of the BBC-P channel, it is not just to televise the House of Commons (and Lords).

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  • 19. At 5:32pm on 21 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Well if we followed your logic the BBC would be dropping all channels to cover the various empty houses of parliament, European Parliament and select committees 24 hours a day then.

    You ask most people what they're more bothered about - the outcome of the election or the outcome of the World Cup, and I'd imagine a significant majority would say the latter. That might not fit your view of the world, but most people get far more passionate about sport than they ever will about politics - and hours of sport is infinitely more entertaining than hours of political debate.


    As for the purpose of the BBC Parliament channel - it's got nothing to do with serving the needs of the people and engaging them more with the political process. It's all about keeping a select few people at Westminster off the BBC's back, and if the BBC were any other organisation, it would be amongst the first in the firing line.


    Choices need to be made and it's pretty obvious the current situation is not sustainable - for both sport and politics, and indeed Freeview as a whole. Unfortunately though whilst companies like Ideal World and Smile TV will move heaven and earth to find new slots on Freeview, the BBC doesn't seem to be in any hurry to work towards reinstating the services lost.

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  • 20. At 10:20pm on 21 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #19. At 5:32pm on 21 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "Well if we followed your logic the BBC would be dropping all channels to cover the various empty houses of parliament, European Parliament and select committees 24 hours a day then.

    ../cut the rest of your trolling clap-trap/.."


    Once again, the channels are not showing "the various empty houses of parliament", politics is carrying on here in the UK, in Europe and the USA, probably even more so during the election than before in some respects, but yes, you are suggesting that sport should trump all else, all I'm doing is using politics as an example (I could have used music, the arts, even the Soaps), and throwing your own 'rational' back in your face - and you don't seem to like it...

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  • 21. At 12:10pm on 22 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Boring myself now with this, but just to add I think my solution would actually bring more coverage to Freeview than BBC Parliament currently does. Yes, it wouldn't be full screen and wouldn't be 24/7, but I think the split screen solution covering the Commons/Lords when in session and ideally the other institutions out of session, would overall ultimately cover Parliament just as extensively.

    There would have to be strict rules in place over what can and can't take priority over the service when Parliament is in session. Rules would be relaxed when Westminster isn't, but it would still run as a default service when the streams are not used for other content.

    We wouldn't please all of the people all of the time, but with just two streams on Freeview the more flexible approach should work for both viewers and the BBC.


    Of course though Boilerplated we're never going to agree on this - and really we're ignoring the main issue, which is the BBC simply needs that extra interactive stream back to be able to properly fulfil it's viewers expectations of what should be available via the red button.

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  • 22. At 1:42pm on 22 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #21. At 12:10pm on 22 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "Boring myself now with this, but just to add I think my solution would actually bring more coverage to Freeview than BBC Parliament currently does. Yes, it wouldn't be full screen and wouldn't be 24/7, but I think the split screen solution covering the Commons/Lords when in session and ideally the other institutions out of session, would overall ultimately cover Parliament just as extensively."

    For pity sake, how many times, there is no space, if there was there would be no problem as 302 would still be available!

    "There would have to be strict rules in place over what can and can't take priority over the service when Parliament is in session. Rules would be relaxed when Westminster isn't"

    It has happened once and it was a very close call for the BBC, BBC-P is not just about parliament (I would prefer if the BBC would rename the channel to something like "The Politics Channel", which in it's self would compliment 'The News Channel' branding), they very nearly missed the start of the conference season on Freeview, and I can just hear the complaints should parliament over run and the expected sporting even not get shown.

    Whilst I'm far from being an avid sports fan I do accept that sports deserve proper and dedicated coverage, hence why I suggested converting BBC3 into a sports channel - which could be done in much the same way as you suggest for BBC-P perhaps - and as much of it's content is either repeats or content suitable for the other two main BBC channels it would make more sense to adapt BBC3 in this way, content could easily be moved on to the other channels if needs-be, what is more, if needs be also, CBBC and CBeebies could combine their output at special times (such as the World Cup or Olympics) to allow BBC3/sports to broadcast 24hrs per day (being basically the same channel, behind different LCN numbers/masks), this would not be possible if BBC-P was used.

    On the other hand you obviously have no any interest in or knowledge of, either BBC-P or politics in general (or the workings of digital broadcasting, for that matter either, but you're certainly not alone there...) and you also do not seem to accept that those who do should have the sort of access to politics as you seem to expect sport fans should have...

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  • 23. At 4:45pm on 22 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    Just get Ideal Extra and Dave+1 off freeview. Then we could have two more interactive streams as well as 301

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  • 24. At 4:48pm on 22 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    They could also take the channel 4 stream as well to make four intearctive streams

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  • 25. At 9:56pm on 22 Apr 2010, Chris wrote:

    Not all Freeview viewers, me included, can recieve Ideal Extra and Dave +1, so the BBC will not be able to take over those channels. License Fee payers have to have access to all BBC services, which would not be the case if that happened.

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  • 26. At 2:14pm on 23 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Although of course is isn't the case now either. Have you switched over yet BTW Chris?

    It has to be better that 90% of Freeview viewers, rather than 0%, get the extra stream back - though personally I think for the reasons you suggest that interactive stream would need to be on the main PSB mux. You all know which channel I'd be moving to the non-PSB mux, but perhaps if radio services were moved instead the space for the extra channel could be found on the BBC mux.

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  • 27. At 4:07pm on 23 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    #26. At 2:14pm on 23 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "You all know which channel I'd be moving to the non-PSB mux"

    "BBC Three" perhaps?... After all non of it's content is actually 'PSB', it is in direct competition with the commercial sector and the commercial sector can and probably does cater for the target age group far better than the BBC channel does. BBC Three is actually in direct competition with the commercial sector for no other reason that the BBC has decided that it wanted part of the Teen/Twenty-something's action.

    BBC Three doesn't have one PSB credential to it's schedule, as indeed I believe the BBC has acknowledged, isn't it one of the 'brands under threat' in the recent BBC service review?

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  • 28. At 11:32pm on 23 Apr 2010, Chris wrote:

    yeah, switchover has finished here, our freeview choice is very limited, we dont even recieve itv3, itv4, e4 or virgin 1.

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  • 29. At 11:27am on 24 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Another consequence of the ill-thought out HD mux. I know if I was in your situation I'd rather an extra mux of eight or so standard channels than a mux of HD simulcasts I need to buy new equipment to receive.


    Technically only the five traditional channels are considered the PSB channels, but I think most people, especially with the BBC, would also view their digital spin-offs as just as important and IMO they should have been protected as such.

    When you look at the muxes before the HD mux was cleared there was roughly 3.5 muxes hosting these PSB channels, and 2.5 hosting purely commercial channels. So rather than doing the sensible thing and creating the HD mux by reducing the PSB channels to 3 mxues and commercial channels to 2 muxes, they give the PSB channels just 2 muxes and leave 3 muxes (admittedly hosting some PSB channels) to the commercial sector so we can get things like Ideal Extra.

    If they'd shown some common sense and put the HD mux on one of the commercial muxes, with a reach of about 90% of Freeview viewers (and worked to expand that reach), the BBC interactive channels would have almost certainly been left unscathed.

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  • 30. At 12:32pm on 24 Apr 2010, TV Licence fee payer against BBC censorship wrote:

    29. At 11:27am on 24 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    "Technically only the five traditional channels are considered the PSB channels"

    Not sure that Channel Five is considered a PSB, it was given DVB-T space because in some areas there was no analogue TX, Ch5 has always been a totally commercial broadcaster with no PSB responsibility.

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  • 31. At 4:39pm on 24 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    It is a PSB channel. The only reason they broadcast Live from Studio Five is because ridiculously it counts towards their news quota!


    I see in the end then Final Score booted the Gymnastics off Freeview today, despite the EPG suggesting otherwise.

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  • 32. At 11:22am on 29 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    Its going to be even more a problem in the summer. I see this happening:

    BBC1: World Cup
    BBC2: Tennis
    301: Tennis/Glastonbury/Other Sport
    BBC4: Glastonbury

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  • 33. At 12:29pm on 29 Apr 2010, Brekkie wrote:

    Wouldn't be surprised at all if during the World Cup and Wimbledon having the Five Live audio option is deemed more important than alternative Wimbledon matches.

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  • 34. At 12:47pm on 29 Apr 2010, CHRIS BENSON wrote:

    On a positive note, I see Red Button decided to screen the Davis v Taylor exhibition frame just now - and it was on Freeview too! Delighted - enjoyed it from start to finish - although how about instead of the same classic 147 frames, adding some new ones such at the 85 final?

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  • 35. At 6:40pm on 30 Apr 2010, Hyperstar wrote:

    But the problem is Snooker would cut off for any other sport because of ratings for Channel 301

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