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Apologies by the way

Eddie Mair | 19:17 UK time, Monday, 26 April 2010

for the Glass Box not appearing until now. Gremlin somewhere. Will have a word with people who know, tomorrow.

UPDATE: There does appear to be a problem. It's being worked on. I recommend the kittens in the meantime. Further apologies.

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  • 1. At 7:26pm on 26 Apr 2010, dennisjunior1 wrote:

    Eddie:

    I am so sorry, for those horrible gremlins that took the Glass Box out of commission for a time! And, yes, I think that it is a good idea to have a chat with whomever was responsible.

    (D)

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  • 2. At 7:40pm on 26 Apr 2010, DiY wrote:

    Eric, the suspense was killing me!

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  • 3. At 7:58pm on 26 Apr 2010, dennisjunior1 wrote:

    Eddie:

    But, please remember to ask nicely to the Technical team regarding the issues about the gremlins; because they could come back in the future....

    (d)

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  • 4. At 8:07pm on 26 Apr 2010, Ellis P Otter wrote:

    He was too busy watching Bucks Fizz allegedly ;-)

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  • 5. At 00:23am on 27 Apr 2010, elcej wrote:

    This excuse is just not good enough. Could it be that the government is suppressing the voice of the people?

    Millions of listeners are out there waiting on the edge of their seats for the PM glass box to arrive so they can rant and rave.

    This is just another example of why we desperately need a change in our electoral system so that we, the people, can get the services we desperately need.

    I demand a full public enquiry.

    One angry JECLE

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  • 6. At 09:19am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    I see the Gremlins are also depriving us of a Glass Box this morning, Eddie. Perhaps we should resort to hamster power.

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  • 7. At 09:30am on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    No AM box! Must be Cleggs fault.

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  • 8. At 09:31am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    I blame the Irn Bru, Looternite.

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  • 9. At 09:34am on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    8. Big Sister

    Drinking too much Irn Bru* makes you talk funny.


    Because it will cause your teeth to fall out.

    *other high sugar fizzy drinks available.

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  • 10. At 09:36am on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    If it aint Cleggs doing, then maybe the Minister concerned should be hauled in and "called to account".

    No AM box, I want a refund on my licence fee.

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  • 11. At 09:45am on 27 Apr 2010, IMOORE wrote:

    The more this election goes on the more despondent I become, it has become a closed shop between the media and politicians, with the media obsessing about and asking politicians the questions that only interest them, and the politicians seeking to dodge the traps the media seek to lay.

    I feel like a spectator.

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  • 12. At 09:54am on 27 Apr 2010, Ellis P Otter wrote:

    11 - I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with IMOORE but I got so frustrated last night I made a little Eddie Mair tribute animation. No offense Eddie, I was bored.

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  • 13. At 09:55am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    I name this ship

    The AM Glass Box

    May God bless her and all who sail in her

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFv8LQdXCQ

    PS I saved the bottle for later ...

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  • 14. At 09:58am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    Ellis you are very clever, and that is very funny. I must save the link before it is modded ;o)

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  • 15. At 10:00am on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    12 Ellis P Otter

    Good one!

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  • 16. At 10:15am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    This silence from Eddie and the lack of a Glass Box are beginning to feel a bit eerie .....

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  • 17. At 10:30am on 27 Apr 2010, eddiemair wrote:

    Hello. I have no idea why the Glass Box has not appeared. It was ready to go. I will speak to the Powers. Apologies AGAIN.

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  • 18. At 10:32am on 27 Apr 2010, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie, there is something very disappointing in your post as we'd all assumed the Powers were invested in you. ;o)

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  • 19. At 12:23pm on 27 Apr 2010, newlach wrote:

    This quite sad story about a flasher psychiatrist raises serious questions about what treatment his patients must have received. Clearly the man's ability to read properly the intentions of others was substantially impaired and I hope there will be an investigation into the well-being of the patients that he saw.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8644467.stm

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  • 20. At 12:24pm on 27 Apr 2010, FalmouthBoy wrote:

    The glass box problem started in America, it's a global glass box issue and the BBC have led the world in addressing it.

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  • 21. At 12:31pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    3. Dennis Junior
    "they could come back in the future...."

    The technical team?

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  • 22. At 12:51pm on 27 Apr 2010, IMOORE wrote:

    Gary Mann has lost his fight against extradition, in being party to this fast track procedure the British state has abdicated its responsibility to its citizens, and left them at the mercy of Kangaroo courts in other countries. What is the good of a state that lets its citiznes be carted off knowing that they have been subject to rough justice?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8646370.stm

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  • 23. At 12:51pm on 27 Apr 2010, GiulioNapolitani wrote:

    Can;t let the chance pass to mention this morning's "Thought for the Day". Without wishing to come over all Dawkins, I can't help but be amused by the irony of Abdal Hakim Murad's apparent unwillingness to accept the possibility of extra-terrestrial life while simultaneously embracing the concept of a supernatural deity. Still, as long as he is sure, we can happily dispense with the opinions of Professor Hawking on the subject.

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  • 24. At 1:08pm on 27 Apr 2010, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    Lloyds buying HBoS?

    Wasn't that Brown's idea?

    'The media aren't covering the issues properly that affect millions of people'? That's ringing rather hollow isn't it given the Elvis stunt?

    Raiding the pensions didn't affect millions of people then Gordon?

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  • 25. At 1:17pm on 27 Apr 2010, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    How rare are attacks upon adults by teenagers?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8645396.stm

    Supposeldy whenever youngsters kill an adult on the street it's reported as a rare occurence.

    Are our teenagers more unsocialised and violent than they've ever been? If they are why is that?

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  • 26. At 1:25pm on 27 Apr 2010, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8644016.stm

    That's saddening.

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  • 27. At 1:48pm on 27 Apr 2010, GotToTheEnd wrote:

    17

    I'd have quiet word with Bast if I were you.

    http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastet

    When are you going to ccotton on you can't flack Whitney without Obama getting back at you, (quite rightly) and hold cats up for ridicule without Bastet scrathing back.****

    Never mind Comrade, cast your nets on the other side. Back the workers in this election.

    Back the roots we, all but the few, came from.

    ****Don't tug Superman's cape either.

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  • 28. At 2:28pm on 27 Apr 2010, MoC wrote:

    Did anyone listen to Grayling on Today this morning? We should have him on more often. He must have single-handedly lost 1000s of Tory votes. Muddled thinking at its best!

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  • 29. At 2:38pm on 27 Apr 2010, Mindclearly wrote:

    Does anyone else agree with my concerns over Clegg? It is not that Clegg has the potential, I think he is an inappropriate choice for for this election. I suspect the Libs will make gains but I still hope not one that will put Clegg in a position of too much power.

    I know I have been bashing him on this blogg recently but it is a concern I have. Its almost as if 'I can't like him' even though I can see the attractions of his party but change for change sake is wrong.

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  • 30. At 2:55pm on 27 Apr 2010, elcej wrote:

    29.

    I don't suppose you could offer any kind of rational explanation or do you just not like the 'cut of his jib'. (what a bizarre expression!)

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  • 31. At 2:56pm on 27 Apr 2010, MoC wrote:

    mindclearly - yes, I agree with your concerns on Clegg. I'm sure he's a nice bloke to go skiing with (especially as he apparently has a lovely Chalet in Davos) but he reminds me of the sort of chaps who don't quite get promoted in performance-oriented companies; DaveBoy, on the other hand, reminds me of the boss's nephew who gets brought in at Executive Vice-President level and drives all the intelligent people away from the business because he couldn't actually do any of the junior jobs, never mind the senior ones. It's that inborn sense of entitlement that is absolutely the opposite of anything fair, decent and truly British.
    Listening to the Prime Minister on WatO talking about having worked hard to get where he is, I had shivers thinking about the possibility of DaveBoy being let loose on this country. In the words of the old song: I know him too well.
    Incidentally, although I predicted it, I am quite astonished at how completely Georgie Osborne has been erased from the campaign and hidden from view. Could it be that the Tories know that even the sight of him terrifies voters? God help us all if he ever had to make a tough decision on behalf of the whole country.

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  • 32. At 2:58pm on 27 Apr 2010, Mindclearly wrote:

    30 - the expression was written intendly that way

    I think MOC 31 has summed it well with his skiing comment, and as I said maybe for the future, and that is why I can't now.

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  • 33. At 3:09pm on 27 Apr 2010, Mindclearly wrote:

    30 - WRT change for change sake, I actually think the coutries foriegn and financial affairs are balanced so finely that any silly mistake will start a colapse and the current President of America like or hate him, is only interested in the US and we need someone to campangne and keep him on side as he will not stay from I can see of him.

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  • 34. At 3:34pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    From the EBC, an example of "balance"

    ;-(

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  • 35. At 4:04pm on 27 Apr 2010, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8646506.stm

    The all parents of the kids in the class when that happened be made to attend all of the court hearings?

    Do people take up training because they want to teach or because they want to be child minders?

    Perhaps I'd feel that this government had achieved something if they'd just let those doing the job get on and do it rather than trying to micro manage everything for the sake of collating data of dubious merit?

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  • 36. At 4:28pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #10. Looternite wrote:

    "If it aint Cleggs doing, then maybe the Minister concerned should be hauled in and "called to account".

    No AM box, I want a refund on my licence fee."



    Hey! we meet again.

    sorry I don't understand the concept of 'glass box' ??? Must be something aired down your way. The last glass box I remember hearing about was a majician guy why was sitting in it. Got to say I understood that as much as I do about this glass box.

    However, you'll be feeling like us if your blog page is 'suffering from the gremlims'. Brians up here had a 5 day 'gremil attack'.

    there are conspiacy theories up here regarding the BBC and free nationalist speech, and it may be because some of us moonlighted to this one that the 'gremlins' followed.

    We believe there has become a problem with advertising Beslan's Welsh blog after we relocated there for 5 days.

    It could be worse. We have to suffer being moderated BEFORE the post is shown because they trust us so much. At least you have access to free speech when your glass box is open.

    Hope it opens soon, but feel free to visit Brian's again. He is open for business today - but I would make it quick - the result of the court case is pending and it is more than likely that the gremlins will make a reappearance again whatever the outcome of the case.

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  • 37. At 4:33pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    36. highlandarab
    "Hope it opens soon, but feel free to visit Brian's again. He is open for business today - but I would make it quick - the result of the court case is pending and it is more than likely that the gremlins will make a reappearance again whatever the outcome of the case. "

    And be prepared to wait as much as 70 minutes (or more) for moderation!

    ;-(

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  • 38. At 4:36pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    36. highlandarab
    "sorry I don't understand the concept of 'glass box' ??? Must be something aired down your way. "

    All will be made clear here

    Slasinte

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  • 39. At 4:39pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #11. At 09:45am on 27 Apr 2010, IMOORE wrote:
    The more this election goes on the more despondent I become, it has become a closed shop between the media and politicians, with the media obsessing about and asking politicians the questions that only interest them, and the politicians seeking to dodge the traps the media seek to lay.

    I feel like a spectator.





    welcome to the club. Up here it is - if it embarasses Labour move on - it didn't happen.

    Try googling Glasgow Council for news over the past 3 months, then try and find out how much of this has been aired.

    Surely if elected representatives are admitting white powder use and visits during the day to his office by high ranking police officers who are worried about the fear of ransoms, then this would become news.

    The other search words might come from say - mafia, corruption, donations, jobs for the boys, gangs, fundraising, samari swords, Friday lunch club, .....

    In Scotland the Labour backed media don't want to know so will do anything to ask different questions. There is no other alternative media.

    Up here, it is more likely that the media are asking the poiticians which questions to ask rather than working it out themselves.

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  • 40. At 4:46pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #38. At 4:36pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:
    36. highlandarab
    "sorry I don't understand the concept of 'glass box' ??? Must be something aired down your way. "

    All will be made clear here

    Slasinte




    Yes. I saw that picture before. I wasn't sure why I was seeing the floor, some furniture and some legs. Does it change to video at any time of is it just another blog message board.

    It is going to be a bit of an anti climax if it is just folk sitting in a room with big windows. Do we get to hear their conversations about the program or just add comments about what they did/should talk about.

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  • 41. At 4:51pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    40. highlandarab
    "It is going to be a bit of an anti climax if it is just folk sitting in a room with big windows. Do we get to hear their conversations about the program or just add comments about what they did/should talk about."

    Mostly to add comments on the programme's content, and occasionally to see comments from the production team. The AM glass box is nominally an opportunity to suggest stories which might interest the team. It often becomes a general free-form forum.

    Fortunately, here in the PM frogpond, the lilypads are relatively broad and off-topic is only rarely the cause of message referral.

    Slainte

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  • 42. At 5:12pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    On the benefits of doing one's homework

    (and the hazards of not doing so)

    ;-)

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  • 43. At 5:31pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    36. highlandarab
    Good afternoon my friend.

    It must be you dragging the gremlins in.
    It is mostly gremlin free here but all of a sudden todays AM box failed to appear. Also I noticed that moderation seemed to get very sensitive. I have never been so moderated.
    What's your theory regarding the gremlins.

    I found Brians blog a bit one topic.

    Still keep us informed of the BBC/SNP legal tussel.
    As I said in one of my postings but it got removed..... whoops best not repeat it on this post.

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  • 44. At 5:37pm on 27 Apr 2010, oldnat wrote:

    42. Big Jim

    Thanks. Just in from the garden, and I was going to hunt for that clip.

    Glorious! I particularly liked Paxman's "London isn't an English Region", and "Oh, God".

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  • 45. At 8:08pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #43. Looternite wrote:


    sorry I was away for my tea. Just noticed your posting.


    "It must be you dragging the gremlins in.
    It is mostly gremlin free here but all of a sudden todays AM box failed to appear. Also I noticed that moderation seemed to get very sensitive. I have never been so moderated.
    What's your theory regarding the gremlins."


    Aye. It's probably us. You have a very good BBC system down here and in Wales. You type a message and it appears. If there is a problem it can be deleted at a later stage. But your system lets conversations flow. In Scotland we are not allowed to do that on any BBC site - all of our messages have to be read by the thought police before anyone is allowed to see them. If the ScotMods know we are here they will try to infiltrate our activities. We are classed in the same bracket as childrens sites which need to be pre-moderated. Now there's trust for you.


    Just as an example. The last open post on Brian's blog was 5.58. It is now 7.32 and there are 16 posts in the pending tray. There are still another 10 from 3.00 stuck in the in-tray and forgotten about. This has speeded up since about 5.00ish when there were more than 30 in the pending tray. So if your posting is getting slower they are after us, not you.

    However today looks like being a good day. Only 2 posts so far have been withdrawn. Yesterday there were 13 in a row and in any one day we are probably averaging 30-40 each day. Usually if you link to the SNP site or if you use pdf links, or if you mention anything that might be bad news for the Labour group.

    Why they pick on us so, I have got no idea, but there you have it.




    "I found Brians blog a bit one topic."

    again, that is more the blog police fault rather than ours. If you are off topic from Brians pen lines you will be removed. An email is normally sent withing 3-4 days explaining but by then you have lost the will to continue. My last misdemeaner was pointing to an article on a BBC website. If we get logged off too many times in one night they just pull the plug. we can almost work out when tea break is for the mods it is that regular. there was a report last week identifying one of the mods as a PPC for Labour, so we are aware we are up against it.



    "Still keep us informed of the BBC/SNP legal tussel."

    This hopefully will get interesting. The Tories might like to back us up here if they could look into the future. The Scottish parliament elections are only a year away, and they have little chance becoming the main party and electing the First Minister even with our PR system. Before the election the leaders debate (or First Ministers debate) should, under the current UK rules only include the SNP, Labour and Lib Dems (assuming that they think us important enough to do such debates). Now that would be interesting!

    I said before they should have done 4 productions - one in each country. The English one - broadcast to the whole UK - would include your 3 'main' parties. In Wales and Scotland they should have had a similar programme with the addition to the usual 3 of the SNP or Plaid and also broadcast throughout the UK. In NI their own parties would be involved and also broadcast through the UK. That way everyone gets to hear the message from around the whole of the union rather than 3 15mile radiuses in England, and the BBC don't have to break their rules.

    As it is now, I think the best outcome to save face for the 3 main parties and the TV companies would be to have the main debate and then at the close of the programme asking the SNP for their thoughts about the devolved matters that apply and were discussed in the debate, or to point out which bits are promised to us but not able to be given - choice in education for example. We will be told for instance that ALL parties agree on keeping nuclear weapons or building nuclear power stations, but here only the 3 unionist ones do. When you get told everyone agrees this, it is a powerful message and it is only proper that other views not so well documented in the debates are heard.

    This could be done by condensing the debate by 10 minutes if the scheduling is a problem. It would not allow a TV debate with the SNP which is unfortunate but at least their policies and thoughts would be heard. It seems that the others leaders don't want to lock horns with AS so this would get them out of that. If your 3 main parties don't want to listen to the extra 10 minutes with AS then this could be the Scotland only bit, and you could have 10 more minutes of that nice Mr Paxman and his Welsh friend from the other night.

    The BBC will have contingency plans like this for the eventuality of loosing this case - won;t they? Surely ... ?


    "As I said in one of my postings but it got removed..... whoops best not repeat it on this post."

    Ah don't start that again, you'll just get me into trouble as well.



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  • 46. At 8:41pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    I think you are a reasonable person who I could have a pint with, apart from you support for the SNP.
    I see us all as one family and in my opinion the working classes of England, Ireland, Wales and Scotland have more in common with each other than difference. The working classes have more in common with each other than with the boss classes in each area.
    We should be working together to improve our lot not get divided over religion or accent.
    However, if there is devolution then why wont the BBC, Labour, Tory or Lib/Dem discuss it.
    Although many people on the BBC blogs keep asking for a debate on an English parliament they will not entertain such a topic for discussion.
    Perhaps James Naughtie, John Humphrys, Kirstie Wark and Eddie Mair have a problem with that.

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  • 47. At 9:18pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    46. Looternite
    "I think you are a reasonable person who I could have a pint with, apart from you support for the SNP."

    That shouldn't stand in the way of a pint. Mine's a Liffey, thanks.

    Slainte

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  • 48. At 9:24pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    47. Big Jim

    I’m actually drinking some “Old Thumper” beer at the moment.
    The trouble with the Liffey stuff is it makes me a bit farty.

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  • 49. At 9:40pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    Dis'nae matter outdoors.

    ;-)

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  • 50. At 9:48pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    I'm not quite so parochial with the liquid. Blach Irish stuff, Old Peculiar or a nice bottled one from up here called Black Gold all all acceptable.


    Update on SNP v BBC
    I see UKIP have also indicated they want to join with court action down with you. What do you reckon - another Independence party up to their old tricks again?

    Might be a hard one for the main 3 to argue against - probably have enough candidates that if they all won they would be biggest party in theory,

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  • 51. At 9:53pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    50. highlandarab

    Of couse UKIP's leader, Lord Pearson (Baron Pearson of Rannoch, of Bridge of Gaur in the District of Perth and Kinross) although born in Devises he is a Scottish lord.

    Must be something in the blood perhaps.

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  • 52. At 9:59pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    51. Looternite
    "Must be something in the blood perhaps."

    Genetically or osmotically?

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  • 53. At 10:01pm on 27 Apr 2010, Big Jim wrote:

    'must be...perhaps'

    An interesting speechform

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  • 54. At 10:14pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    53. Big Jim
    Yep thats what we say round here.:-)

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  • 55. At 10:25pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #51

    Malcolm Everard MacLaren Pearson
    He is unlikely to be one of ours with a middle name like Everard. Unlikely he would have reached adulthood in our school system with that one.

    Born in Wiltshire and a Tory according to your quoted wiki page so the likelyhood of him being one of ours is even more remote.

    There again, his other middle name is McLaren, which is from the right area. Clann mhic Labhrainn were from Perthshire and fought on King Robert the Bruces side at Bannockburn and were on the Stuart side in more recent battles. He can't be all that bad surely.

    Thereagain, if he is an absent landlord or just comes up to murder our deer occasionaly then I might change my mind.

    Let me think about him for a while.
    I may need to go the the point system for an adjudication.

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  • 56. At 10:31pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    #51

    just noticed this bit

    "he is a Scottish lord"

    What does that actually mean.
    I would doubt that he would be a Lord nominated from Scotland nobody up here really bothers with class things like this so he was probably nominated from London for something he had done there.

    The only Scottish part of the Lordship is the name he selected himself.

    He is not heredetary, so it is not an ancient barony title borrowed from previous generations. He's just an ordinary common working lad like us.

    Chances are you could reword your quote to say
    "he is an English Lord who chose a Scottish title"

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  • 57. At 11:01pm on 27 Apr 2010, Looternite wrote:

    56. highlandarab
    I am no expert on these matters but I understand that life peers choose a name that they are connected with. It is not just random naming.

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  • 58. At 11:39pm on 27 Apr 2010, highlandarab wrote:

    # Probably, that might be an ancestral McLaren link.
    Like I say, it matters less to us up here. I could name probably one Lord if I had to from the whole of Scotland. Not sure why but I think he did some funding or publicity for the local football team Ross County. I can see him but it is taking me a while to remember his name.
    Black suit and hair and one of these Biggles tashes.
    Nope it's gone - But I think he chose to use Thurso as his Lordship name. I think he still has a house in that area and does work locally so nothing personal.
    Other than him I would struggle with any Lords or Ladies. You could probably name some that would stir the braincells but they would need a help. Another one springs to mind called Tonypandy (or similar). As a wild guess I have either Wilson, Foot or Benn and from the left wing feeling of one of these names I would doubt the last - probably Wilson.
    Ah! Johnny Thurso maybe? If that helps. If it is wrong I do appologise your lordship.

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