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Sequin | 15:50 UK time, Thursday, 17 December 2009


Fiona and Jeremy are running the show today. We'll all be meeting at 6pm after PM to discuss the programme. Why don't you tell us here what you thought of it.



  • 1. At 4:53pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    I see you are saving money – same old photo, same old tree

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  • 2. At 5:03pm on 17 Dec 2009, davmcn wrote:

    cukc 1, Yes, and Eddie has a very good one that I sent ages ago that he refuses to use. Maybe he's saving it for a special occasion...or lost it. Yes, I'll bet he lost it when he was away to do AQ/AA. Left it on a train.

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  • 3. At 5:09pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    Well done BA, you really don’t get man management do you? So the strike is off but you will now have pushed even moderates over to action. I predict an epidemic of staff going off sick at short notice with ‘swine flu’ etc over the next few weeks and every safety check and security check will be done thoroughly by your staff dotting every ‘i’ and crossing every ‘t’. Take action against any union member and you know what to expect, or is Willie Walsh looking for a full show down to try and break the union?

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  • 4. At 5:11pm on 17 Dec 2009, newlach wrote:

    It is good news that Bishop Murray has stepped down. He was heavily criticised for the way he handled complaints made to him about paedophile priests. Last night I saw a story on the BBC website about a paedophile priest aged 78 who was sentenced to 3 years in jail for his paedophile crimes, but I cannot find it today. This story needs greater prominence.

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  • 5. At 5:18pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    This Turkish case exposes multiculturalism as a total failure and it should be abandoned by all those still clinging to it. A clash of cultures, inevitable if immigrants are encouraged to reatin their culture and have little to do with UK culture, while their children become full Britons with a completely different attitude.

    As well as English being a prerequisite for citizenship, there shouyld be a course in what is expected of people including a law primer and introduction to customs. If people wish to live here and become British they should take everything on boards; otherwise we are just renting out space for foreigners to live in and draw benefits from.

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  • 6. At 5:18pm on 17 Dec 2009, Sindy wrote:

    cukc - interesting to hear the union member saying he and his friends might well resign from the union, as they pay their subs for Unite to represent their interests - and it failed to do so.

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  • 7. At 5:23pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    3. concerned_uk_citizen - my thoughts too. Is Walshe out to break the union? Well, it's certainly the usual battle of male egos, and his seems pretty large; he is in charge and everyone will do as he says. Clearly not a democrat or believer in consensus. There's usually a gombeen ego at the centre of industrial disputes these days; man at the top says no, digs a hole and sits in it.

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  • 8. At 5:26pm on 17 Dec 2009, Sindy wrote:

    It's been said before - but we need a new word for 'honour killings'. There's nothing honourable about them. Any thoughts?

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  • 9. At 5:27pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Yes, infanticide with the age thing added.

    Progenicide perhaps?

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  • 10. At 5:27pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    Sindy 6
    Yes – I should think they do feel let down by the union, I would, but if BA keep using the stick and don’t find a carrot they may find that they ruin the business completely fighting their staff instead of fighting the competition. I wonder what the major shareholders think of all this and if they will call for some heads when it is all settled (if there is a business left to worry about)

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  • 11. At 5:29pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    The other take on the BA issue is that there's a lovely job waiting for Walshe at Ryan Air.

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  • 12. At 5:30pm on 17 Dec 2009, davmcn wrote:

    DD 9, Is there amateurgenicide?

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  • 13. At 5:31pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    Sindy 8
    There is an acceptable word for ‘honour killing’ it’s murder – this is what it is, this is how it should be described in the press. The BBC should set the standard and stop using the phrase.

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  • 14. At 5:33pm on 17 Dec 2009, davmcn wrote:

    cukc 13, Maybe the BBC could put it in quotes or italics.

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  • 15. At 5:35pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Ten year olds raping an even younger girl. Does anyone refute that we have sexualised the young? Constant diet via TV, music and fashion. Mothers dress 8 year-old-daughters as whores and think it's cute, pop is full of sexually simulated writhings, TV is obsessed with it.

    In my day ...

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  • 16. At 5:36pm on 17 Dec 2009, Sindy wrote:

    They do, davmcn - and they call it 'so-called honour killing'. I think they should stop using the word 'honour', and stick with 'killing' or 'murder'. The only problem there is that you then lose the peculiarly cultural aspect of the offence.

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  • 17. At 5:37pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Shame killings.

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  • 18. At 5:38pm on 17 Dec 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Multicultural killings?

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  • 19. At 5:42pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    We must have a different kind of snow North of Watford as we live with it or enjoy it and have some fun, the stuff they get in the South appears to be frightening by the way it’s being talked about.

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  • 20. At 5:43pm on 17 Dec 2009, fiona leach wrote:

    I'm editing this evening and i think those who've raised objections to the term 'honour killings' have a point. It is murder. But, without the preface, honour, you do - as Sindy wrote - lose something. Maybe it should be termed 'honour murders'?

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  • 21. At 5:48pm on 17 Dec 2009, Looternite wrote:

    'honour killings' is murder, its that simple.
    If I murdered my daughter for going out with the someone from a race or religion that I did not approve. I would be charged with murder and I would be classed as a racist.
    There is one law here and so this man is not only a murderer but a racist as well.
    Daughters are annoying when they choose losers but women are free in this country and other civilised countries.
    If you don't like our freedom you are free to leave.

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  • 22. At 5:50pm on 17 Dec 2009, Looternite wrote:

    #19. concerned_uk_citizen
    I'm norf of Watford and I know what you mean about those in Hertfordshire and London.

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  • 23. At 5:58pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    Oh my god, the Highways Agency have got some salt for the roads, well what next, they will be telling us they have carrots and coal for the snowman next!

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  • 24. At 6:16pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    If we work together and come up with a full rewrite of the Twelve Days of Christmas maybe Eddie will sing it to us - I offer the following to get us started -
    On the fist day of Christmas BA sent to me, a legal challenge keeping Christmas strike free.
    On the second day of Christmas the BA staff sent to me, two diverted flights
    On the Third day of Christmas BA staff sent to me, three long delays,
    On the Fourth day of Christmas BA staff sent to me, four less bags than when I started
    On the Fifth day of Christmas BA staff sent to me, five cancelled flights

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  • 25. At 6:18pm on 17 Dec 2009, Sindy wrote:

    I'm a bit worried about that fist, cukc ...

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  • 26. At 6:19pm on 17 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    Sindy 25
    Please edit and amend

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  • 27. At 8:34pm on 17 Dec 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:


    So much for people acting oddly with cameras eh?

    :( Tulay.

    That is truly saddening.

    However I can't have been the only one scratching their heads about the Radio 4 programme about the problems Indian men now have getting wives from India for various reasons including the flailing UK economy, and the better standards of living now enjoyed by more people in India? So Indians can only wed Indians?

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  • 28. At 9:07pm on 17 Dec 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    'The hacking was possible because the remotely flown planes have an unprotected communications link.'


    So the same people that want Gary Kinnon extradited for 'hacking' their computers have been giving the Iraqis an unencrypted video feed from their unmanned drones?

    It's about time UK Ministers developed some Cojones and told the Americans where to get off now!

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  • 29. At 9:46pm on 17 Dec 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    Doesn't the killing of Tulay prove that people that really aren't parent material exist in all races and cultural backgrounds?

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  • 30. At 10:45pm on 17 Dec 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:


    I wonder if Sal9000 is going to visit London for his honeymoon?

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  • 31. At 08:09am on 18 Dec 2009, Kerten Geon wrote:

    [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]Same old photo, same old tree So much for people acting oddly with cameras

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  • 32. At 10:02am on 18 Dec 2009, davmcn wrote:

    S 16, Funny, I can't see it on my radio.

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