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Eddie Mair | 17:00 UK time, Monday, 9 November 2009

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In a real glass box every evening at 18.00, the PM production team meets to discuss the programme that's just finished. You're encouraged to do so here in this virtual glass box. Tonight's editor Rupert Allman will read the comments and may well add his own.

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  • 1. At 5:08pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Security of supply with the UK having no uranium deposits? The world is competing for uranium and will increasingly do so. No competition for wind, sun, wave and river power however.

    This is all nonsense considering this lot aren't going to be in power after the next election. I wonder if Milliband has thought about the proximity to sea level of so many existing nuclear plants...


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  • 2. At 5:12pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    Heysham is pronounced "Heesham", Eddie. Don't ask why. It's already a nuclear site. But Braystones - heartbreaking. They say the local people want it. They mean that neglected northern communities cannot refuse it.

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  • 3. At 5:15pm on 09 Nov 2009, Anne P wrote:

    What I'm hearing about this new planning process is that we will all be able to have our say and then the decision will be taken anyway!

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  • 4. At 5:19pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Let's not mention the elephant in the EDF room, a certain Mr Brown, a director I understand.

    And they want to export this 'democracy' to other countries. All the people can do is delaying tactics, and these will be employed to the full. I expect the police information gathering on climate protesters will come in useful then. Knocks in the night... already the nuclear industry has its own police force.

    3. Anne-P - Almost right, the decision will be taken [has been taken] and then the public will be allowed a charade of 'consultation' before they're told the result.

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  • 5. At 5:20pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    BTW. Prolonged and exhaustive studies of Westminsterese semiotics now enables me, as is the way of science, to tell you what you already knew.

    I am happy to be able to offer an exact rendering of the word-gesture "Look!"

    Precisely, it means "I am going to ignore your question and recite a prepared statement".

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  • 6. At 5:22pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    5. redheylin - introduced by Blair as I remember, and repeated by government constantly ever since.


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  • 7. At 5:23pm on 09 Nov 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    #3 To streamline the planning process why not cut out the local inquiry and local council involvement as it appears to me in most cases they end up on appeal to the Minister who signs it off on the basis of creating jobs or national need or any of the other reasons they can pick of the standard list – or am I very mistaken?

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  • 8. At 5:24pm on 09 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Having to re-register yet once again to post here, my posts are now being held in limbo. As this Box wasn't here earlier, see my post on the AM Bog to read about my absense. When it appears, that is.

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  • 9. At 5:24pm on 09 Nov 2009, Charles wrote:

    Better that we should have an apolitical body judging planning applications only on the merits of the representations put to it than the suspicion that a Minister has made a decision with an eye to electoral advantage. There is nothing to stop a Select Committee from scrutinising the IPC as often as it could call a Minister before it, so let's not hear bleats about lack of accountability.

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  • 10. At 5:25pm on 09 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    4 DoctorDolots
    Which Mr Brown? Members of the cabinet can't hold company directorships.

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  • 11. At 5:26pm on 09 Nov 2009, unclesocial wrote:

    I see my friend Jack Straw's in the press again. Friends of mine have often said that the worst job in politics is the one that Jack Straw's just left. What do people thnk of his latest idea "come on son it doesn't matter what you've done, just own up and we'll reduce the offence to one where we just give you a caution and you can forget about going to court". Is there a hidden agenda here about reducing crime figures or is it another ruse designed to reduce the costs of the legal system. So much for being the party of law and order and supportive of the victim's cause. What next?

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  • 12. At 5:27pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    6) Let's be clear about this!

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  • 13. At 5:29pm on 09 Nov 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    We appear to be a bit short of moderators – do they work on good will like the railways?

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  • 14. At 5:35pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    Don't knock the consultation process - it's a wonderful gravy train. But you can guarantee that the private company concerned will not be based in Heysham or Braystones.

    3) Anne-P. "Especially local authorities" - I have passed it through the software and it does come up with a translation rather similar to that which you suggest. A red light is flashing, though, with a message; "you may find you are unable to gain access to a full account of consultation monies".

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  • 15. At 5:36pm on 09 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Wonderful Upshares theme and words - most amusing!

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  • 16. At 5:37pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    10. lucien_desgai - brother, try google

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  • 17. At 5:40pm on 09 Nov 2009, nikki noodle wrote:

    I loved the Barber Shop theme tune plus words!! Excellent!

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  • 18. At 5:42pm on 09 Nov 2009, newlach wrote:

    A criminal who assaulted a pub landlady with a glass got a caution! If a policeman had been similarly assaulted would the outcome have been the same?

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  • 19. At 5:44pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Come on Eddie, you can't be so naive that it didn't occur to you the Sun was exploiting a mother's grief! I'm beginning to feel some sympathy for Brown, two page letter, painfully written by a man with one eye and that not perfect, let's not trot to the tabloid's tune please.

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  • 20. At 5:46pm on 09 Nov 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    # 18 I would comment but I feel the moderators are overworked tonight and I have given them enough to do already.

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  • 21. At 5:46pm on 09 Nov 2009, Geezer wrote:

    Evenin' Gov, Am I right in thinking that tonight's Glass Box is 'quality'...
    I suppose that goes without saying given previous form.

    On the plods... Is it not true that eventually the political classes and their agents-in-Law are going to push us into direct action to get things sorted if they don't start paying attention to the victims. We don't want those who have form getting a chummy slap on the wrist. I'm keen on tax raising to build more prisons - by the bucket load. After all we in the UK prefer the USA model over the intrusive European model, don't we. Regards,

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  • 22. At 5:46pm on 09 Nov 2009, needsanewnickname wrote:

    I enjoyed 'Upshares' with words, too.

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  • 23. At 5:47pm on 09 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    16 DD
    I did, and there are no Brown's on the board of directors, Andrew Brown is or was head of corporate affairs for the company.
    The PM is not responsible for the actions of his brother (who should be allowed to have his own life and career).
    Gordon Brown is many things but he's not corrupt. It's a cheap shot to suggest otherwise.

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  • 24. At 5:48pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    Yes, classic Westminsterese "Look!" use (four times) by Ian Austin, though with a unique "empathetic modulation" using the non-Westminsterese "you know" (20 times?) indicating "give me a moment and I can repeat the message, adapted slightly to your questions" Most interesting, fascinating.

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  • 25. At 5:50pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    And I also think this "personal letter "is a scraped-up propaganda story and the matter is fit to get every future bereaved parent a printed card. You don't HAVE to cover these things, you know. Leave it to Humphreys.

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  • 26. At 5:52pm on 09 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    My apologies for the erroneous apostrophe in #23.

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  • 27. At 5:54pm on 09 Nov 2009, Looternite wrote:

    I really cannot understand why PM had to run the Brown's dodgy handwriting story. It has been done to death by all the BBC news outlets all day. Yet you could not leave it alone. I expect better from the BBC.
    DoctorDolots #19 is right why are you dancing to the Sun's tune if I wanted tabloid stories I can look them up on the web.

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  • 28. At 5:56pm on 09 Nov 2009, U14138029 wrote:

    Remember when PM used to have a daily srapline screened at the top of the Blog? Well, I vote we bring it back. Today's could have been:
    PM: Running to keep up with The Sun

    I think it was disgraceful allowing that former Sun correspondent to repeat the odious twaddle that he spouted on The World at One today, and worse still to allow him free access and not challenge it.

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  • 29. At 5:57pm on 09 Nov 2009, Looternite wrote:

    By the way davmcn is back.

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  • 30. At 5:57pm on 09 Nov 2009, Minteddy wrote:

    About Gordon Brown's spelling mistake, I think I heard your interviewee from the Sun Newspaper state that in a letter no one should have spelling mistakes. Does this mean that it is alright to have spelling mistakes in other forms of written communication? My wife is struggling to teach literacy to those who have no literacy qualification. These people need literacy to qualify for jobs they apply for yet both my wife and I have come actoss individuals in positions of responsibility and paid extremely well who are totally illiterate. Organisations such as Ofsted should never produce errors in their reports - yet there are errors. Should the Prime Minister be required to have a higher standard of literacy than the organisation which involves inspecting schools and commenting on literacy?

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  • 31. At 6:02pm on 09 Nov 2009, Richard_SM wrote:


    Afghanistan

    Gordon Brown: “I’m not prepared to put the lives of British troops in harm’s way for a government that doesn’t stand up against corruption.”

    But isn’t that what he is doing already with the deployment of the troops in Afghanistan?

    Hugh Sykes: “ There’s a direct link between corruption and lack of security, for example, ministry officials take a cut from policeman’s salaries and the police then recover their loss by taking bribes from the public. And the public don’t like it and look for an alternative source of security which is often the Taliban who are widely regarded as clean.”

    The Americans are known for taking cash by the case load into conflict zones; they were doing it in the Afghan-Soviet war; they were doing it in the run-up to the Iraq war; and they were doing it during the post-war period in Iraq, and I’ve no doubt they’ve been doing it in Afghanistan. They sell tomorrow to meet today’s objectives. It’s not surprising a culture of corruption has developed.

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  • 32. At 6:04pm on 09 Nov 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:

    So Health Improvement is putting grit on roads. On that basis can I have a salary on the NHS please as I’ haven’t got one and it’s making me depressed. Having one will ease the depression, I think that should fall under Health Improvement. Has anyone else got a valid reason for an NHS injection of funds?

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  • 33. At 6:09pm on 09 Nov 2009, Anne P wrote:

    Absolutely agree with Preston (28) you should not have included the item.

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  • 34. At 6:13pm on 09 Nov 2009, bright-eyedwendym wrote:

    One of GB's brothers is I believe a PR man with EDF, the other is a PR man with Glasgow City council. His wife was partner in a PR company. I leave it with you.
    By the way the most interesting thing about the MP wheeled out to give us the defence of the PM re letter was that he was a former adviser to GB and is now an MP. There's a lot of that about. It's not about the mis spelling of a name - I think it's about someone who believes so absolutely in his own 'rightness' that he wouldn't ask someone else to check it.

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  • 35. At 6:16pm on 09 Nov 2009, steelpulse wrote:

    Listening to that MoP on the Prime Ministers penmanship. Goodness - that was a difficult gig. I would not touch it myself. I still wont.
    So hey - it is good to hear from Hugh Sykes one of the many PM regulars I would not miss for worlds and I plan to buy a decent shortwave radio (pronounces "radio" in Finnish by the by!)so I do not miss it in the near future. Words to Upshare/Downshares theme today. Nice. Barber Shop. And the Berlin Wall came down twenty years ago today. I have been thinking for weeks now - and short of cheating and checking some diaries held by the nearest and dearest - I cannot remember what I was doing on that day. 1989 Day By Day hardly helps but I try to catch it for the music. 20 years ago? I cannot remember what I was doing last week. I expected I sighed though. On both occasions.lol
    SUBJECT: A MIGHTY BIG SPLOSH THIS EVENING
    ANAGRAM: Y SIGH? – (SLETT) HOPING MISBEHAVING


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  • 36. At 6:17pm on 09 Nov 2009, Looternite wrote:

    Let's get something understood here: it was handwritten; therefore no spelling checker, no choice of "Clear type fonts", etc.
    My handwriting is not very clear and I think it has been getting worser as I usually type everything.

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  • 37. At 6:22pm on 09 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    34 B-E
    If you think that someone is public life is acting improperly then say so and set out your reasons. I just think that nudge-nudge wink-wink insinuations and conspiracies detract from the real issues.

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  • 38. At 6:35pm on 09 Nov 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    So 40,000 people that have committed assualt, ABH or rape got cautions? Is it any wonder drivers feel persecuted?

    What's with the Berlin Wall anniversary festival? We have the police here taking the DNA from people on an ad hoc basis, despite being told by the EU that it's unlawful and the Scottish having a system that works, and state employed snoopers eavesdropping on the Emails of 1 in 78 of the popultion?

    East Germany? It just relocated to New Labour's control freak police state.

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  • 39. At 6:40pm on 09 Nov 2009, Lepus_Madidus wrote:

    Have your fire engine driven into when you're attending an RTA on a Motorway and have some policeman take a DNA sample from you, rape somebody, or smash a beer glass in the face of a pub landlady and get a caution?

    That doesn't righ to seem to me. And anayway what is the value of the state retaining DNA from innocents if the guilty get laughably light sentences anyway? How much value is in that DNA sample database?

    Where does the British sense of fair play or British 'values' figure in such inconsistency?

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  • 40. At 6:59pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    A spokesman for "The Sun" has clarified:

    "See, chief, it's the decline in standards of English what this load of burks has presided over what really gets our goat; that and their shocking standards of respect and dignity in public life - bunch of gits".

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  • 41. At 7:09pm on 09 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    The Mail concurs;

    In the good old fiftys we got taught English by Sir Winston Churchill and learned to punctual, correctly and spel. Things have gone downhill for exactly ten years. We need a return to things that really matter, that our great nation really cares about. Does Brown realise how stupid he looks in those socks?

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  • 42. At 7:11pm on 09 Nov 2009, annasee wrote:

    That MP you got on to talk about GB's letter was too weasly-worded to say anything worth hearing. Really feel we shouldn't have been listening to any more on the story by tonight. It's been bugging me all day, as it seems such a non-story in news terms.

    Loved the Upshares theme & words. Also loved Eddie's sneaky little aside to Nils about being too young to know what half-a-crown meant. Oh really? (polite incredulity...)

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  • 43. At 7:13pm on 09 Nov 2009, Looternite wrote:

    #40. & 41 redheylin
    It's coz we aint bin taught proper since 1997 - apparently thats why the Sun wants rid of Brown.

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  • 44. At 8:14pm on 09 Nov 2009, Alchemist Jack wrote:

    Just because The Sun runs a story about Gordon Brown does not mean that PM has to follow them. It is disapointing, I would have preferred to have heard more from Afghanistan and/or an interview with some of the organisers of the protests in East Germany that lead to the collapse of the Wall, rather than the GB handwriting "story".

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  • 45. At 8:37pm on 09 Nov 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    davmcn(8) I hope all's well again.

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  • 46. At 10:35pm on 09 Nov 2009, humphrey wrote:

    BBC radio 4 news referred several times, in various contexts, to "a review into...". Is this a correct use of English? I can understand an "enquiry into" or a "review of". I may just be out of date!

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  • 47. At 10:56pm on 09 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    46 harumphrey
    It ruined my listening pleasure.

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  • 48. At 11:51pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    23. lucien_desgai - hah! Believe what you want to. I'm not so naive, but then I have been around for some time and watched them play with the truth and people's gullibility. No of course our unelected prime minister Brown isn't corrupt, who would ever think such a thing, and it's pure coincidence his brother is a director [oh yes he is] of the foreign company making huge inroads into the British energy market and about to build new nuclear. No connection there, perish the thought.
    37. lucien_desgai - you really are a bundle of laughs aren't you? Are you a politician?

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  • 49. At 11:58pm on 09 Nov 2009, DoctorDolots wrote:

    Andrew Brown is EDF Energy's Head of Press. Brown junior previously worked for the lobbying company Weber Shandwick (whose former UK chief executive Philip Dewhurst, is now Director of Group Corporate Affairs at BNFL.

    In November 2005, EDF's Chief Executive, Vincent de Rivaz, told a parliamentary committee that new nuclear power stations could be built within ten years if planning and licensing laws are relaxed.

    In evidence to the House of Commons Environmental Audit Committee, he said that new nuclear power stations should be built to help to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, increase security of supply and lower energy price volatility.

    EDF was behind a widely-reported MORI poll, published in November 2005, which claimed that the 'majority of people now believe nuclear power has a vital role to play in meeting Britain's energy requirements and in reducing carbon dioxide emissions'.

    In April 2009 it was reported that a senior executive of EDF, which owns the main UK nuclear power operator British Energy, had been charged on suspicion of spying on the environmental group Greenpeace.

    In recent years it has bought the firms SWEB Energy and Seeboard Energy, and now owns the Sutton Bridge, West Burton and Cottam power stations, and the TXU and Seeboard networks businesses.

    more ... http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/EDF

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  • 50. At 00:26am on 10 Nov 2009, Lord Nathan wrote:

    And I believe EDF is short for Energy du France. Talk about selling the silver!

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  • 51. At 00:33am on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    49. DD
    EDF is an unsavoury company and Andrew Brown heads up its PR.
    But no evidence that Gordon is corrupt, probably because he isn't.

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  • 52. At 00:40am on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    ps. I did take up your suggestion, DD, and googled EDF and Andrew Brown. A side issue perhaps but he is not listed as a director at either the company's website or at the link which you gave. Perhaps he's a secret director.

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  • 53. At 00:45am on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    50. Lord Nathan
    The silver (our energy supply) should never have been sold in the first place ... but it hardly makes any difference that it's ended up with French capitalists, not British capitalists.
    Privatisation is the problem here, not the French.

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  • 54. At 03:42am on 10 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Re. DD@48 on an 'unelected' PM but general questions:

    Isn't the UK election system based on electing the party, not the man?

    Surely, if it is, it is up to the party to put whoever they believe to be the right person at the head?

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  • 55. At 05:29am on 10 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    Yep, Board'n'Gown was elected alright Lady S - MP for Kirkaldy and Cowdenbeath, and a stonking 300% lead to boot. Subsequently he was indeed elected as party leader in the usual way. He looks elected to me. You are correct in every way.

    He's got no finger for the pulse, I have known more popular PMs, he was unclever not to go for a general election on taking office - but anyhow, I think PM can gather that all impartial listeners strongly object to this kind of story.

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  • 56. At 05:35am on 10 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    a "review into" - COURSE it's bad English. I keep telling you, the BBC gets it wrong on purpose so that we thickoes can relate to it. Trouble is; they speak incorrect Westminsterese instead of....oh, drat, there I go again.

    Trouble is; what they speak is; they speak Demotic Westminsterese, not English. And is "review into" right in D.W.? Is "to broker" a word in D.W.? Does "mitigate against" have a meaning in D.W.?

    Absolutely! (erm, mate) Let's be clear about this....

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  • 57. At 08:10am on 10 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    As you may have gathered, having to translate as I go along - well, I find it trialling, very trialling indeed, every time they roll it out: I'll tell you that for freely.

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  • 58. At 08:17am on 10 Nov 2009, Redheylin wrote:

    Here's a new game; I call it "US neologisms"

    Obfuscate
    Obfuscation
    Obfuscational
    Obfuscationalist
    Obfuscationalistic
    Obfuscationalisticism
    Obfuscationalisticistise = Obfuscate

    You can work out your own scoring system, based, by common agreement, upon number of steps and word-length, but you must end with a word that means the same as the first.

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  • 59. At 09:08am on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    58 Redhelyn
    I tested each step of your game on Google. The final two words returned no results and there were less than five entries for the third word from last.
    Doesn't that make you the neologist?

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  • 60. At 10:36am on 10 Nov 2009, Lord Nathan wrote:

    • "Privatisation is the problem here, not the French."

    Indeed. The other "half" of our energy is German-owned...E.ON.

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  • 61. At 10:41am on 10 Nov 2009, Lord Nathan wrote:

    P.S. I agree with the apparent majority that the 'letter fiasco' is a truly trivial non-story, and for the first time in a very long time have (a little) sympathy for Gordo.

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  • 62. At 11:19am on 10 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Lord Nathan - do you still think it is a 'non-story' after it has come to light that Mrs. Janes recorded the conversation for 'The Sun'? No longer the original tale of 'PM has bad handwriting and makes spelling mistakes' (a human PM, what do you know?) but developing into quite an interesting one about morality of journalism and the media and the lengths some people go to for what? Still not sure what Mrs. Janes' motives were.

    Someone at No. 10 probably gave Mr. Brown the wrong information, confusing 'Janes' with 'James' and, considering the importance of the letter, he should have rewritten it and not merely corrected the spelling of the lad's name but agree with you on feeling sympathetic towards him.

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  • 63. At 11:36am on 10 Nov 2009, Lord Nathan wrote:

    Milady,

    I agree that the background is more of a story than the "story", but it remains trivial.

    We all already know the nature of tabloid press, so any "story" there is as likely to be "interesting" as to note the continuing sound of construction in the Occupied West Bank....

    ;-(

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  • 64. At 11:37am on 10 Nov 2009, Lord Nathan wrote:

    Plus ca change

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  • 65. At 11:42am on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Gill 45, Thanks. As I have to go upstairs and a loft ladder to get to the computer, I'm obviously not feeling too bad.

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  • 66. At 11:53am on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Cards and flowers accepted. And chocolates...

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  • 67. At 1:55pm on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    66 dav
    Have a crate of beer from me ... and get well soon!

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  • 68. At 2:25pm on 10 Nov 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    davmcn (66) What a pity I'm forbidden to ask for your address ;o)
    Btw, I completely agree with the opinion you expressed on another thread about the item concerning the lottery winners. What a piece of nonsense! It would have been done better by Radio 1 - they would at least have made it funny!

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  • 69. At 5:13pm on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Gill 68, If you have been paying attention on the Beach, you would probably have had some clues to my address. ;o)

    l_d 67, Send the money and drink the beer yourself.

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  • 70. At 5:21pm on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    69 dav (re your remarks to Gillianian)
    I mean this in the nicest possible way .... please shut up. You really are your own worst enemy.

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  • 71. At 5:26pm on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    l_d 0, Hey, this ain't the Beach. People here are civilised.

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  • 72. At 5:27pm on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    l_d 0, Make that l_d 70.

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  • 73. At 5:31pm on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    71 dav
    I'm not.

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  • 74. At 5:36pm on 10 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    l_d 73, No, you don't live in St A.

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  • 75. At 5:50pm on 10 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Lucien@70: he takes no notice. In a way, he's funny. Sometimes. He does spend an awful lot of time talking to himself and then making comments to himself about what he's just said. It's a bit like a Marx Bros movie - only not as amusing. I'm sure he and Steelpulse have lovely conversations but usually I just "scroll on by".

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  • 76. At 6:03pm on 10 Nov 2009, lucien desgai wrote:

    74 dav
    It's hardly as though you live in a civilised part of St A.

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  • 77. At 7:43pm on 10 Nov 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Right, Gillianian started this little squabble with a fairly innocent joke, but now I think all of you should sit on your hands for a few minutes and calm down. ;o)

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  • 78. At 7:46pm on 10 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Big Sis, it's taken me ages to type this with my nose.

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  • 79. At 8:45pm on 10 Nov 2009, Gillianian wrote:

    I do apologise - I should have known better.

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  • 80. At 9:13pm on 10 Nov 2009, pmmolly wrote:

    I've just been reading all these postings and I've realised that the FB doesn't seem to exist any more.

    When did that thread go?

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  • 81. At 10:50pm on 10 Nov 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Lady Sue, that did make me laugh! As for you Gill .......

    ;o)

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  • 82. At 10:57pm on 10 Nov 2009, U14138029 wrote:

    Nah, he's not funny. The man is a (please skip to the next post but one as the next will be referred) ...

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  • 83. At 10:57pm on 10 Nov 2009, U14138029 wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 84. At 10:58pm on 10 Nov 2009, U14138029 wrote:

    ... told you!

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  • 85. At 05:08am on 11 Nov 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Ohhhhhh! Preston! What DID you say? How funny!

    Please Miss! Miss? May I get off my hands now?

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  • 86. At 09:01am on 11 Nov 2009, Sid wrote:

    Hang on a second - this is Monday's Glass Box - why doesn't it say so?

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  • 87. At 10:14am on 11 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Funny how some people say they scroll on by my posts, but comment on all of them.

    l_d 76, Some people just don't know when we are having a bit of fun. I don't live near the tip.

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  • 88. At 10:15am on 11 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Gill 79, Where's the card? Postal strike or sumfink?

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  • 89. At 10:16am on 11 Nov 2009, davmcn wrote:

    Sid 86, It does.

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  • 90. At 10:22am on 11 Nov 2009, Sid wrote:

    D McN - on my screen it just says The PM Glass Box. Do you pay extra to get the day added?

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