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Eddie Mair | 16:04 UK time, Thursday, 23 July 2009


The Glass Box is where the PM team meets in at 18.00 every weeknight to discuss the content of the programme. If you want to let it all out in this virtual glass box, be my guest.

The solution to last night's chess problem is:

7. Bxf7+ Ke7 (only possible move)

8. Nd5# Checkmate


  • 1. At 4:44pm on 23 Jul 2009, Charlie wrote:

    Not really sure why, but I'm feeling a bit-of-a-draught, from the heading picture...

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  • 2. At 5:02pm on 23 Jul 2009, mittfh wrote:

    So, what's that game called then? Dress? Cheughts?

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  • 3. At 5:28pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Hey McNickle, is that photo one of yours?

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  • 4. At 5:29pm on 23 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd 3, Er, um, yes.

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  • 5. At 5:31pm on 23 Jul 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    David that's so funny! We can't work out how that rook was taken. Is that Hazel Blears playing against your glass box?

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  • 6. At 5:36pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    DMNC (4)

    Well its a load a rubbish! You can do better than that!

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  • 7. At 5:40pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Wedding services;

    There is no laid down wedding service practice in the bible except the precedent that when you have drank all the normal grog...it good to have someone who can supply the best stuff last...preferably costing nothing... made from water...hick!

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  • 8. At 5:43pm on 23 Jul 2009, LondonArthur wrote:

    Thanks for the piece on discrimination within the state of Israel. It is becoming common knowledge these days that modern Israel is an ethnocratic state practising South African-style apartheid, in which Arabs within the state are sub-citizens. Pieces like Katya Adler's help to expose this. However, please remember that using terms like 'Israel's War of Independence' is itself controversial, and to many listeners aware of the differing views on what happened in 1948 will signal an alignment by PM with the Zionist position (official Israel always speaks of the war in 1948 as a war of independence, drawing a somewhat uneasy parallel with America's war of independence). As many will know, Palestinian Arabs (both Christians and Muslims) view 1948 not as a war if independence on Israel's part but an act of settler-colonialism. The term they use is 'nakba', or catastrophe, indicating the catastrophic event of having a homeland stolen from them. If PM would not be prepared to use 'nakba' in your piece, please do not use war of independence. They are not neutral terms.

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  • 9. At 5:45pm on 23 Jul 2009, elspoblets wrote:

    Obviously the Norwich election outcome will not be in the BBC's political interest - therefore no inclusion in the programme today!!

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  • 10. At 5:50pm on 23 Jul 2009, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Isn't self diagnosis for swine flu a bit dodgy? What is the difference between it and 'normal' flu? Could PM just tell us and take the strain off the swine flu website?

    Poor Phillip Morris losing all that money... I didn't believe their spokesman who bemoaned the loss to the tax man for a minute.

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  • 11. At 5:52pm on 23 Jul 2009, JockDahnSaarf wrote:

    Counterfeit Cigarrettes from China - Poetic Justice?

    For years BAT and Philip Morris have been recouping their falling profits
    from sales in the west by marketing hard into Asia. They have done this with shocking success.

    It amuses me intensely to hear them whine about counterfeit fags being sent to the UK, inter alia, from China. To hear their spokesman bleating about the loss to the exchequer has me rolling on the floor!

    You would have thought that government would have learned over several centuries that punitive taxation promotes smuggling. In the 18th and early 19th century smuggling was argualbly the biggest employer in southern Britain.

    Hypocracy and stupidity - wonderful allies!


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  • 12. At 5:55pm on 23 Jul 2009, Happyhomeworker wrote:

    I listened to the piece on Bolton market with interest. What your interviewee didn't tell you was that Bolton had a thriving market for decades before the council killed it in the 90s/early 2000s with rent rises, and changes to the site and operation. They also allowed a developer to kick all the market tenants out of the beautiful market hall and turn it into a mall, which has struggled ever since.

    Both of these markets drove footfall in the town for all the other shops - by killing both they effectively reduced the business for the other traders. My Mum was in the town a couple of days ago and she told me it was a ghost town, most of the small independent shops have gone and so have a number of chain stores.

    It's good if Bolton council has belatedly realised its mistake, but to hold it up as a beacon is a step too far...

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  • 13. At 5:56pm on 23 Jul 2009, Frank_Davis wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 14. At 5:58pm on 23 Jul 2009, Looternite wrote:

    I know that what I am about to write could mean that I will be accused of being anti-semitic but I will say it anyway. If Israel truely wants peace then my advice is stop stealing land from the Palestinians and hand back what you have stolen.

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  • 15. At 6:05pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    13 Frank Davis;

    It was his pratship the Bish of Durham.

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  • 16. At 6:05pm on 23 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    LS 5, It was jumped by one of the draughts/checkers. It's Eddie.

    FjD, 6, Thanks for the support.

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  • 17. At 6:06pm on 23 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd 7, And that's not funny.

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  • 18. At 6:06pm on 23 Jul 2009, Squirrel wrote:

    "If Israel truely wants peace then my advice is stop stealing land from the Palestinians and hand back what you have stolen."

    Very true and too little restated, for the reason you give. How far back would you role the clock on the "hand back"? All the way to 1947, or maybe even earlier?

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  • 19. At 6:07pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Ooooo....Looternite...you dog of de night..

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  • 20. At 6:09pm on 23 Jul 2009, Looternite wrote:

    Re: #18 Squirrel

    I would suggest pre 1967. Whoops best not say anymore.

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  • 21. At 6:11pm on 23 Jul 2009, steelpulse wrote:


    Someone said great photo yesterday.

    I just checked my computer set up of the problem and missed adding the bishop because of the Knight just in front of it. No wonder it didnt knock of that pawn. It wasn't there! lol

    They merge on my computer picture.

    I should have played the game from the start but never understood chess notation. Ah well. Checkmate for white?

    Story of my life. lol

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  • 22. At 6:15pm on 23 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    David (17)

    "fjd,7 and thats not funny"

    David, please...don't invite fate.

    Ok...at least you can send a photo, My rubbish computer and isp can't cope with more than 2MB at a go. But if I could...

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  • 23. At 6:18pm on 23 Jul 2009, LittleBigFella wrote:

    Re: Voice recognition - I've just spent the day correcting the text my good lady wife has produced using the best voice recognition software we could find before she submits her paperwork. Some of the results would be quite funny if it weren't such a pain. If this service is based on existing technology then we might look out for some seriously funny misinterpretations. New candidate for the R4 18:30 slot maybe?

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  • 24. At 6:38pm on 23 Jul 2009, Looternite wrote:

    I don't know if there is anyone out there who maybe doesn't know that Shappi Khorsandi is Iranian. I think she may have mentioned it a few times.

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  • 25. At 7:55pm on 23 Jul 2009, Scotch Git wrote:


    Try building a house in England without planning permission. See how long it takes before the local authorities send in the bulldozers.

    Of course, if you are neither White nor Christian you can call it discrimination.

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  • 26. At 8:52pm on 23 Jul 2009, Humph wrote:

    els (9) Whilst the polls are open, broadcasters are not allowed to cover the election. No politician is allowed to canvas. The electioneering is over*. The Norwich North by-election was mentioned in last night's programme. I am sure that it will be mentioned in tomorrow night's programme. But as the polls were open during tonight's programme (they were doing that thing about voice-recognition whilst I was at the polling station) it was "out-of-bounds" for this evening's programme.


    *Oh but I did get a leaflet, from the Tories, suggesting I vote for a name change for the street where I live. I have also had a couple of 'phone calls suggesting that I should go and vote, after I have voted, but I am sure that does not count as "electioneering".

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  • 27. At 09:32am on 24 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd 22, I can send photos several ways...

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  • 28. At 09:38am on 24 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd, I can plug my verrry expensive camera into my verrrry expensive computer, use one of my thousands of discs of photos, use my verrrry expensive scanner, send one of my thousands of stored photos, the options are endless.

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  • 29. At 09:40am on 24 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    fJd, You could send them through the mail...

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  • 30. At 09:49am on 24 Jul 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    David: Stop showing off!

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  • 31. At 10:58am on 24 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    BS 30, He could ESP them. Get Uri Geller to send them.

    All of the bits of our computer were given to us, but the 'brain' eventually died and we actually had to splash out about 300 pounds for a new one. Coulda got a cheaper, jFd type, but we wanted something that actually worked. Still using the other old bits. Oh, I forgot, we bought a printer and a scanner for 100 pounds. Still better than poor old lower class jDf's though, bless him.

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  • 32. At 11:02am on 24 Jul 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    I got a scanner from Freecycle. Joe - do you do Freecycle? It can be very useful. My PC is about seven years old now, but when I bought it, I went for the best (most advanced) I could afford, with a view to not having to update it too quickly, and it has been great from that point of view. It's main drawback now is that the memory is, by current standards, quite small. I may invest in buying some additional memory for it as at the moment I couldn't afford the outlay for a whole new PC, and, as the saying goes, if it ain't broke ....

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  • 33. At 12:16pm on 24 Jul 2009, funnyJoedunn wrote:

    Big Sis,

    Thanks for your concern

    My computer is fine about three years old. Its just that the isp I use has two Internet tariffs and I opted for the standard rate. I didn't realise at the time that this would mean I would only be able to send up to 2MB in an email. This was fine for sending the odd photo and the like. However, I experimented with the different settings on my digital camera (which isn't an expensive one) and it seems I don't know how to get back to the original settings on my camera without trawling through the manual, (which I will have to do at some point). However, the settings my camera is stuck on uses more than 2MB of space in the each photo, hence my email won't take them. It is a Rubbish isp (better not mention any names) but , I intend going back to a better and perhaps not any more expensive provider.

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  • 34. At 5:21pm on 24 Jul 2009, David_McNickle wrote:

    dunnyFoejunn 33, Our computer is older than that. Our isp is one of the most hated (like Microsoft), but does the job for us. Did you plan on plugging your camera into the computer before you gubbered it up? Our came with a cable provided. Try just sending the even photos.

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  • 35. At 5:36pm on 24 Jul 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Joe: Have you tried downsizing the photos? I do this through Paint, though I'm sure there are other ways of doing it. Otherwise the attachments take ages to go through, and sometimes end up in people's junk folders.

    Just a thought!

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  • 36. At 6:50pm on 24 Jul 2009, pithywriter wrote:

    When will there be a discussion about where this swine flue has come from.
    I read that it has to do with FILTHY pig and chicken 'farming' sic techniques inflicted by American food corporations onto Mexico - there to get around laws re standards and to exploit workers. WOULD NU LABOUR ALLOW THE BBC TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE? The silence on the issue of where our porc, chicken and swine flue comes from is deafening!

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  • 37. At 11:22pm on 24 Jul 2009, Big Sister wrote:

    Re the missing recent comments - BRING THEM BACK NOW!!! please, Eddie, please!

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