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Eddie Mair | 05:52 UK time, Friday, 28 November 2008

Oh most beautiful Beach of the programme PM,
Where the Froggers congregate even though you can't see them,
With camels and surf and castles of sand,
As a refuge from woes and seriousness it was planned,
With a bar in memory of a presenter most grand,
And imag'nery sun to get most safely tanned,
Renewed by our host, most every Friday,
Visitor, relax and enjoy, and please keep it tidy.


  • 1. At 07:58am on 28 Nov 2008, Little Red wrote:

    a power cut this morning has delayed my arrival onto the beach. it also means no croissant, but i do have an enormous amount of milk and yoghurt to be consumed so cereals aplenty and milky tes/coffee.chocolat chaud on the bar.

    unfortunately the back up generator at work seems to be doing ok. which seems slightly unfair.

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  • 2. At 08:08am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Morning! I'll put the coffee on.

    Sausage sarnies anyone?

    ;o) []

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  • 3. At 08:15am on 28 Nov 2008, gossipmistress wrote:

    Yes please Wonko - and big urn of Builder's Tea here too!

    Still quite gloomy at the NorthWest end of the beach, but what's that down by the shoreline - a washed-up harp being played by......a mermaid!

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  • 4. At 08:16am on 28 Nov 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Mornin' all. Been reading the posts on the beach for some time but never posted myself. Looks like fun!! In whose memory is the bar?? Meanwhile, coffee, white with two sugars would be most welcome.

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  • 5. At 08:37am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    gossipmistress - being fair I don't think the harp is that bad... oh, you meant it was brought in on the tide! ;o)

    Right, sausages are ready, help yourselves. Choice of sauces on the bar at Nick's.

    ;o) []

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  • 6. At 08:38am on 28 Nov 2008, Sid wrote:

    Hi Mansaylo, and welcome. I can do you a cappuccino, if that's ok? And the bar is the Nick Clark bar.

    Nick died almost exactly two years ago.

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  • 7. At 08:38am on 28 Nov 2008, eddiemair wrote:

    The bar is in Nick Clarke's memory.

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  • 8. At 08:39am on 28 Nov 2008, Sid wrote:

    Sorry - that should be Clarke with an e ...

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  • 9. At 08:46am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Mansaylo - welcome to the Beach! Sorry, I didn't see your post there for a minute. Glad to see a new face on the Beach. Coffee as requested, here you go. Sausage sarnie? Now pull up a sun lounger and tell us about yourself.

    The bar is named in memory of the late and much missed Radio 4 broadcaster Nick Clarke. He used to present 'The World at One' before his untimely death. He and 'The World at One' featured in an episode of the Quandary Phase of the HitchHiker's Guide To The Galaxy radio series, alongside Sir Patrick Moore!

    Share and Enjoy,
    Share and Enjoy,
    Journey through life with a plastic girl,
    Or boy,
    By your side...

    ;o) []

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  • 10. At 09:01am on 28 Nov 2008, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Morning all, and welcome, Mansaylo! Not stopping long, just leaving a plate of pastries on the bar for folks to enjoy:-)

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  • 11. At 09:17am on 28 Nov 2008, Humph wrote:

    Morning all. Sorry for cross-posting from the previous beach but Fifi (173) as Eddie's piano playing was at the end of last week's iPM it would be more accurate to tell BigSis that it was last Saturday at 5:57.

    "Pedants of the world - make sure that everyone else gets it right too!!"



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  • 12. At 09:19am on 28 Nov 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    mmmmm...sausage sarnie, what cracking way to start a gloomy RL Friday morning......thanks Wonko!

    And a warm welcome to Mansaylo.

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  • 13. At 09:30am on 28 Nov 2008, U12196018 wrote:

    Mansaylo, 'bout ye!

    Right, a quick tea and sausage sarnie, a few jobs in RL, and then I'm away for the weekend, so I am.

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  • 14. At 09:48am on 28 Nov 2008, lordBeddGelert wrote:

    Thank flip it's Friday...

    Am enjoying a large bowl of porridge with some limited edition marmalade containing ginger - Together with half a gallon of yorkshire tea [Didn't want to capitalise as no advertising is allowed on the beeb] it may shift my sore throat...

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  • 15. At 10:15am on 28 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Mornin' all - hi, Mansaylo. Thanks for the sarnie - now I'm off to do some handprinting!! Excuse my appearance - I remembered to wear my old clothes ;o)

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  • 16. At 10:28am on 28 Nov 2008, pmmolly wrote:

    Mansaylo- good morning!
    Hot buttered toasted teacakes for elevenses, tea or coffee available.

    A bit early- who cares....

    Nick Clarke bar busy today.


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  • 17. At 10:32am on 28 Nov 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    Welcome mansaylo, hello everyone, just dashing by. I've left some home-made marmalade on the bar. I'm told you can do bacon and marmalade sarnies, but I've never tried....

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  • 18. At 10:49am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Ok now I'm confused. first the frog says that I have mis-typed some HTML in my post when there isn't any, then it claims that I have "already said at post 17" when it was clearly not me!

    Will this even make it?

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  • 19. At 10:52am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Trying again...

    Anne and Molly - many thanks for those treats. I can't speak for having bacon with marmalade, but it works a treat with Lorne Sausage. My favourite with bacon is North American style pancakes with maple syrup.

    Mmmm, Foodie Friday...

    ;o) []

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  • 20. At 11:16am on 28 Nov 2008, U13717586 wrote:

    Friday, and the weekend starts here.

    Off to Durdle Door and the old Bill.

    With the strains of harp in my ears and taste of a very dry white (ferment of the grape Vitis Gillianianis) on my lips.

    The mermaid, that ambiguous icon, will greet us. (Is she proof of the promiscuity of patriarchal sailors or of their faithfulness to those they left behind 'lonely 'pon the Liverpool sand')

    (And tonight, the Pub Landlord versus G. Greer (HIGNFY?). Shades of Big Sis v. Jimmy Giro (late of this blog))

    Off then to where all is held in common (a Beach and an evening with the BBC (5, 6.30, 8.00, radio 4, 9, HIGNFY,) and even C4 in its/it's way, where the IT crowd live.

    To the Beach, the BBC and the common
    Where Adam delved and Eve span

    But who then was the gentle (woe)man?


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  • 21. At 11:17am on 28 Nov 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Morning, beachfrogs! Welcome, Mansaylo!

    Gossymrs, giggle. But don't harp on about your photographic froggie fame ;o)

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  • 22. At 11:34am on 28 Nov 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Thanks for the welcome. Just got back to the beach after moving my desk in the office. I'll put my feet up now and enjoy all the sarnies and coffee that's been offered. Soon be time for lunch. What's the recipe today Jim? (showing my age!!)

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  • 23. At 11:46am on 28 Nov 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    Wonko, sometimes ampersands and other bits and pieces confuse the frog into thinking you are putting html in a posting, just as okay (written otherwise than this) is sometimes interpreted as intemperate language, most confusing - don't know about the numbering bit though....

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  • 24. At 11:59am on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Anne P. That's weird with a capital WEIRD!

    ;o) []

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  • 25. At 12:24pm on 28 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Am I too late for a sausage sarnie? I could do with sustenance, as I've a ton of stuff to get through in RL.

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  • 26. At 12:52pm on 28 Nov 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    I have an urge for Deep Fried (in batter) Haggis.

    With Salt n'sauce

    Sort of white pudding to you southerners.

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  • 27. At 2:36pm on 28 Nov 2008, gossipmistress wrote:

    Frances (21) well I guess I would be a lyre if I said I didn't enjoy it..... (aargh!)

    Afternoon, and Welcome Mansaylo!

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  • 28. At 2:46pm on 28 Nov 2008, mittfh wrote:

    Afternoon everyone - just got back from a pub quiz (of sorts) - something to do with "Learning at Work Fortnight" (which I thought was a couple of months ago) - and held in the council chamber. Eight rounds of 12 questions: Sport, History, Natural world, Cats and dogs, Christmas, TV, Film, Christmas; plus pictures (24 photocopied pics of famous people to attempt to identify) and lyrics (24 rhyming couplets - identify the singer and song). The team I was on came 5th out of 21.

    I suppose I'd better start doing something that looks vaguely like work - don't want to be seen to have apparently wasted the entire day :)

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  • 29. At 2:50pm on 28 Nov 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    mittfh, well you could always go back to playing with spreadsheets!

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  • 30. At 2:51pm on 28 Nov 2008, mittfh wrote:

    As for the blog's quirks, don't enter the letter between j and l unless accompanied by at least two letters, don't type ampersands (it used to allow you to add "amp;" but not any more!), and don't type a pound sign or any accents - they will be accepted and initially look OK - until you refresh the page, whereupon they'll be mangled.
    (I think what's happening in this case is the input comment box uses one character set, the blog displays using another...)

    However, I think you can still get away with making your text bold / strong or italicised / emphasised, and you can insert the occasional hyperlink to elsewhere...

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  • 31. At 3:08pm on 28 Nov 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    tea up!!!

    and seeing as it's cricket weather (and my strapline!) i thought I'd bring some scones, cream and jam....

    any takers?!!

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  • 32. At 3:21pm on 28 Nov 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Count me in nn!

    ;o) []

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  • 33. At 3:31pm on 28 Nov 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Scones,jam and (hopefully) Cornish Clotted Cream for me too. Ta muchly, Darjeeling tea, anyone?

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  • 34. At 4:31pm on 28 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Thanks for the tea, Mansaylo - and n-n, since it's Friday, I ate my cream scone without licking my lips.
    Look at the state of me ;o)

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  • 35. At 5:17pm on 28 Nov 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    I want a Clark Bar.

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  • 36. At 6:14pm on 28 Nov 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    I did wonder afterwards whether I actually paid 12/6 for my Woolworths pearls, it sounds like an awful lot of money for 1959.

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  • 37. At 6:16pm on 28 Nov 2008, Aperitif wrote:

    Evening all, and I'll have one of those sarnies if they're still on the go.

    Having a day off today in RL, so just swinging by for a quick catch up with all of you.

    A, x.

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  • 38. At 7:40pm on 28 Nov 2008, Stewart_M wrote:


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  • 39. At 8:54pm on 28 Nov 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Gossy (27), you are on form today!

    Thank goodness the harpies are only mythical or we'd be in treble. [??? Ed]

    Er... no, the spellcheck says that's in tune with the rest of the post, so we're in harmony.

    I wouldn't like to think any strings were pulled to get that photo of annasee on the frog...

    Ahhhh.... evening on the Beach. Lazing in my hammock, gazing out into the middle sea...

    [That's enough! I'm telling you flatly, you'll get the sharp edge of my tongue. It's not natural! Ed]

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  • 40. At 9:16pm on 28 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Frances O - don't fret - here's a gin and tonic - that should stave off your thirst til you can get to the bar ;o)

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  • 41. At 10:01pm on 28 Nov 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    The link to the caption comp we've WANTED is on Rory C-J's Twitter. He's posted the other photo. A lot of concentration in that face Mr M!

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  • 42. At 10:09pm on 28 Nov 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    Post the link KAren, I don't twitter now.

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  • 43. At 10:14pm on 28 Nov 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    I'm hoping this works!


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  • 44. At 10:15pm on 28 Nov 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    Alignment is out and the title (Twitpic) is a little unfortunate...!

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  • 45. At 00:40am on 29 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    I'm back from one of the best-attended folk nights I've ever hosted... 2 newbies (a fiddler and a singer), a great mix of tunes for joining in, songs for joining in, and rude songs for just gasping at, lots of peeps in the bar and holiday cover bar staff enjoying the music... cracking atmosphere. Bliss!

    Big bottle of Cab Sauv Shiraz to share. Hurrah.

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  • 46. At 10:22am on 29 Nov 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Morning Peeps, coffee is on. I'll just tidy up all these empties and take them to the recycle bin!

    Anyhoo, I have to go over to son #1's place and give a hand felling a tree. He has a friend coming to give us a hand, so I guess there will tree fellas!

    Okay...I'll get me coat.

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  • 47. At 11:59am on 29 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    DI_Wyman - You're a lumberjack, and you're okay... ;o)

    RxKaren (43) Thanks! Even the rugby shirt's the same blue ;o)

    I'll get lunch started - what do you fancy in your omelettes?

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  • 48. At 12:39pm on 29 Nov 2008, Sid wrote:

    If anyone needs me for the next week I'll be in Heidelberg or Cologne ...

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  • 49. At 1:35pm on 29 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Both beautiful cities, from what I remember McSid. Enjoy!

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  • 50. At 2:14pm on 29 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Sid, if you're going to Cologne, could you please bring me back some Eau?
    Have a lovely time ;o)

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  • 51. At 2:50pm on 29 Nov 2008, jonnie wrote:

    Have a lovely time Sid!

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  • 52. At 4:55pm on 29 Nov 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Sid, We had a bone from Alban (ha ha) returned from Cologne a year or so back. I call it the bone from Cologne. Other bits of him (ha ha) are still there in St Pantaleon's Church.

    Sorry, forgot, this is the beach. Fake food only.

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  • 53. At 6:17pm on 29 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    I've just seen Ed Iglehart's legs on Coast again!

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  • 54. At 10:44pm on 29 Nov 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    tarra Sid!!!
    Send a post card if you get a moment to yourself - and if you are near an internet cafe!!!

    Fi - just the legs, or is there more to come?!!


    PS this afternoon, about 40 yards of blue fabric washed up on the beach, along with designs for table cloths, microphone covers and jumpers; any suggestions for what we could do with it?!!

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  • 55. At 10:37am on 30 Nov 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    We've got to hike back to last week's Beach to enjoy the lovely breakfast buffet Fifi's set up for us. Thanks Fi ;o)
    We'll have worked up an appetite by the time we get there - last one there's a rotten sausage......!

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  • 56. At 1:12pm on 30 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Why O why O why do I keep pinging back to the previous week's Beach!

    Has anyone else noticed how frequently you have to Refresh a page or a view, just to make sure you're where you think you are? I'm sure it's a recent-ish invention and I CAN'T COPE WITH IT! (Thanks Gillian for leading me back again.)

    ...Just going for a lie down. I've been playing guitar in a freezing cold church this morning and still haven't thawed out yet. Brrrrrrrr.

    * stomps off, grumpily *

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  • 57. At 2:34pm on 30 Nov 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    ooops!!! You are quite right, Gillianian!!! Mind you, astray isnt too bad a way to be lead....!!!!

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  • 58. At 4:47pm on 30 Nov 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Fifi 56, No, I haven't noticed that. I hate guitars in church.

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  • 59. At 4:54pm on 30 Nov 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Oh, I'm sorry, fake food.

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  • 60. At 5:26pm on 30 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Noodle (57) I wonder if you'd like to try some of this mysterious mince recipe that my SO is concocting, to go with those mince pies?

    I hear onions being chopped, there is likely to be garlic and chilli, and maybe some sweetcorn. Not sure what else he lobs in there but it always turns out yummy...

    Perfect for a freezing cold night at the tail-end of November!

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  • 61. At 8:12pm on 30 Nov 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    my, my!!!

    mmmmmm that sure was delicious, fifi!!! and nice and spicy for a winter warmer too!!!!

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  • 62. At 9:35pm on 30 Nov 2008, Fifi wrote:

    I am prepared to lend my SO out to any frogger in need of a winter warmer.

    Must like mince...

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  • 63. At 11:26pm on 30 Nov 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    Its Advent. Where is Picture Number one? Or are we just doing December 1 to Dec 24?

    And Rx Karen. Thanks for the link

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  • 64. At 11:59pm on 30 Nov 2008, gossipmistress wrote:

    Fifi (56) I don't have trouble with the page not refreshing but I do often find myself in a loop with the 'previous' button. Has there been an explanation sometime about it that I missed? Does it happen to anyone else??!

    Also Fifi - much sympathy re playing in a cold church. We were singing in one in Yorkshire yesterday and it was flippin freezing! Took me a 3 hour car journey with the heater on full and an electric blanket to get warm again!

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  • 65. At 00:01am on 01 Dec 2008, gossipmistress wrote:

    Fifi (62) - you're lending him out to do a bit of mincing?

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  • 66. At 00:49am on 01 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    GM (65): ;oP

    Why keep a dog. . . . .?

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  • 67. At 09:18am on 01 Dec 2008, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Morning all! I seem to get very little chance to Frog nowadays, so I'll make the most of the few minutes I have now. All the vittals are lined up on the bar. I'll tidy up the plates from yesterday so we've got things to put food on later. Now, does anyone know how to teach the camels some carols for the Beach Carol Concert?

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  • 68. At 09:58am on 01 Dec 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Mornin' all, just had my bacon sarnie and a latte.Nice to get a bit of tropical sunshine after all the frost this morning.

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  • 69. At 09:59am on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Morning, Fearless - I'm finding it hard frogging, too. Good to see you here, though! and the croissants are lovely.

    I think the camels could be called upon to hiss at appropriate moment - You know how they get the hump if you ask too much of them ;o)

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  • 70. At 10:09am on 01 Dec 2008, annasee wrote:

    GM -(65) I thought she was lending him out to anyone who didn't have an electric blanket. Wasn't the phrase "in need of a winter warmer"? I mean, in these days of high electricity bills, he could probably be rented out as the Economy 7 alternative to an expensive electric blanket. Mincing extra, of course. How about it Fi? (It's a good job your SO doesn't read this blog, isn't it?) :-)

    Sympathies on the cold church. Nothing so miserable as hypothermia and wooden pews. I bet the single toilet in the church was freezing too. They always are. I was luxuriating in the relative warmth of Leeds University Great Hall. Was interested to read their energy efficiency certificate on the wall - apparently they have a score of 23, which is excellent. A normal building of that age and size would have a score of 100. Can't understand it. The radiators were barely on, but the whole place was warm. Amazing architecture too. All tiles,stained glass, grand staircases, bespoke carpet (echoing mosaic floor pattern). A Victorian gem.

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  • 71. At 10:25am on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    We spent the weekend in sub-zero temperatures, which didn't do my cold much good. I thought of Joanna Lumley in the Ice Hotel ..... Brrrrrrrrr!

    Anyway, the sun is shining in West Sussex this morning, so I'm about to wrap myself up and try to do a spot of gardening. I hope the ground isn't too hard!

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  • 72. At 10:30am on 01 Dec 2008, annasee wrote:

    I've just looked out the window - ITS SNOWING IN MANCHESTER! What fun!

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  • 73. At 10:33am on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Annasee, I'm checking the train timetable NOW!!!!

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  • 74. At 11:19am on 01 Dec 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    How bad? Eldest is at Young Voices at tHe Manchester Arena thingy this afternoon (well evening). S.O. off there too. Will I need to dig them out?

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  • 75. At 11:26am on 01 Dec 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Morning peeps, Saturday tree surgery was a complete success, see FB, but I have now picked up a tummy bug and the contents of my stomach won't stay down.

    I'll be in the Purple Hammock on a diet of water and dried biscuits.

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  • 76. At 11:30am on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    DiY: I've warned you so often about those sprouts ...... When will you learn? :o(

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  • 77. At 12:00pm on 01 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    75 (DiY)

    Baby wipes! If it's winter vomiting it starts one end and finishes off with the other...

    It's also doing the rounds of East Anglia.

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  • 78. At 12:16pm on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Karen: Too much information!

    DiY: I hope you'll soon feel your usual perky self.

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  • 79. At 12:18pm on 01 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    What ho!

    Where do these morning's go? I'm in a bit of a grumpy mood, mostly down to it taking me two hours to get in to work today.

    Weekend was an interesting mix. Mrs Wonko and I were looking after next door's dog while they had a weekend break. Fortunately our dog gets on very well with her, even though she is considerably younger and much more bouncy! We took them both to Bury St Edmonds on Saturday for the Christmas Market.

    Met up with some pals there, bought and eat some lovely food and generally had a good (if rather cold) time. Two of our friends are having building work done at the moment, including a large new section of roof. So, after dinner we all climbed up the scaffolding ladders in the dark and cold for a "topping out" ceremony!

    Yesterday was rather quieter, taking the dogs out for a walk in the morning and then giving them both a bath in the afternoon as they were very muddy!

    Oh well, better get on with today I suppose. Any suggestions for lunch?

    ;o) []

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  • 80. At 12:19pm on 01 Dec 2008, annasee wrote:

    Stewart - I don't think you'll need a shovel. Snowfall has stopped, and the sun is trying to come out. SO and mpb just been in to Didsbury to violin lesson. Not nearly so much snow even there. Probably warmer still in central Manchester, and the roads have all been treated. It was glorious for those few minutes though! Felt all Christmassy.

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  • 81. At 12:35pm on 01 Dec 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    I see the clique is ignoring me. And I brought a basket of wax and plastic fruit.

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  • 82. At 12:36pm on 01 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    We're having an argument here about where to stick a Christmas tree! Two heads of department trying to agree that.... I had a suggestion which wasn't met with much approval.

    And that's hot on the heels of the "two managers sorting out a muddle with the Secret Santa that the departments jointly organised." I'm using organised in the broadest possible sense of the word.

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  • 83. At 12:38pm on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    David, why don't we add the plastic fruit to our Christmas decorations on the Nick Clarke bar, while sticking a wick into each of those lovely wax fruit for use at the Carols by Candlelight?

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  • 84. At 12:45pm on 01 Dec 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    BS 83, I collect the used candles after the Candlelight Carol service at St Albans Cathedral. Also from the Advent service last night. We burn them year round on the mantle.

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  • 85. At 1:16pm on 01 Dec 2008, U13717586 wrote:


    I have seen more realistic representations of flight

    Than the implausible flight of the hovering gull

    In the scarcely fluttering wooden toys with whirring paper wings,

    Whip-driven by small boys pulling hard on tightly wound strings.

    Black headed gulls in careless, still formation, twelve perhaps more,

    Guard the Victorian shelter, cast iron and glass, on Weymouth promenade.

    A handful of breadcrumbs thrown high into the air,

    Each piece taken on the wing, the bird in an upward curve

    Like a dolphin surfacing,

    In their flotilla stillness they threaten the hands we use to feed them.

    Hitchcock understated the aggression in their beaks and

    Beady eyes.

    But their wings are almost silly

    In their flimsy excessive exertion

    And their bodies in poetic perfection.


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  • 86. At 4:14pm on 01 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    Have calmed down now. Knocked off early and drinking a mug of shiraz. I can't find any glasses...

    I've found some tinsel for the NC bar. And a cross eyed angel.

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  • 87. At 4:22pm on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Why is the angel cross, Karen? Is it because it only has one eye?

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  • 88. At 4:37pm on 01 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    I think it was "a donation" to my department from another department. I suspect that the journey to us was shorter than the journey to the appropriate bin.

    She has a certain quirky charm to her. Her legs seem to have been damaged as she fell off the tree one year. She now looks as though she is desperate for the little angel's room.

    We did put her up next to our red flashing Rudolph poster on year. The poster fell down leaving a dodgy looking angel next to a red light. Could have given completely the wrong impression...

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  • 89. At 4:37pm on 01 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    I meant to mention - today she was wearing her red ribbon for World AIDS Day. She is a very aware angel.

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  • 90. At 5:37pm on 01 Dec 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    see that single line of swell out there towards the coral?!! (and, I must admit, the wash spreading out behind....)?!

    turbo noodle.

    I'm on Form today!!!! yeeeehaaaa!!!

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  • 91. At 6:11pm on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    I like the idea of a politically correct angel, Karen :o)

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  • 92. At 7:42pm on 01 Dec 2008, Little Red wrote:

    I'm not sure wearing a red ribbon counts as politically correct Big Sis, but certainly shows some awareness. Which is impressive for an inanimate object. Thanks for the reminder Karen.

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  • 93. At 11:08pm on 01 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh I don't know, Little Red, I think Karen's angel is very PC, and no shame in that. She reminds me, from Karen's description of her, of Clare - as in Clare in the Community. Since I'm a great fan of earnest Clare, I'm also a great fan (since today) of Karen's angel.

    In her honour:

    Hark the cross eyed angel sings
    "I was nearly in that bin.
    Though my legs are past their prime
    Karen saved me, just in time!
    And though Rudolph hit the floor
    Leaving me alone and poor
    Like a lady of the night
    By that flashing red red light!
    My World Aids Day tag I wear -
    For an angel, I'm so aware!"

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  • 94. At 11:58pm on 01 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Annasee (70): SO comments that his 'Economy 7' might be better than most alternatives you'll find in the cold!

    These fruit-shaped candles don't last long do they?

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  • 95. At 00:07am on 02 Dec 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Trying to beat cold threatening my soft bits at the back of my mouth/nose/throat, I overindulged up garlic[k]y food and now have a grumbly tumbly. Feh. Had planned a cosy early night.

    So: is Tuesday a World Anything Day?

    If not, may I suggest a few National Bah Humbug Days?

    This short but pungent season may involve the ingestion of stripey peppermint sweets of various strengths; but preferably accompanied by ideas, quotations etc which may undermine the commercial exploitation of our purses in the run-up to what a very witty friend calls 'the Feast of St Gut'. And of St Overdraft.

    I open with a fave of mine, which I insist is just about relevant:

    Where feeble hope could ne'er have flown,
    But vainly flapped her tinsel wing

    I do like that last line. All spelinge's moddernized and koreckted, off cawse.

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  • 96. At 01:05am on 02 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    I'm with you 100%, Frances!

    I'll just spit out these last segments of wax orange, and mull another jug of ready-mulled wine in the microwave.

    Good old Nick Clarke. Such a well stocked bar. . . . .

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  • 97. At 01:17am on 02 Dec 2008, mittfh wrote:

    Famces (95):

    So what is there to commemorate today? According to Wikipedia, it's National Day in the United Arab Emirates (1971) and Laos (1975). It's also the UN International Day for the Abolition of Slavery, and the feast days of Saints Bibiana and Chromatius.

    Famous births:
    Georges Seurat (1851) - painter
    Gianni Versace (1946) - fashion designer
    Rick Savage (1960) - Def Leppard bassist
    Lucy Liu (1968) - actress
    Monica Seles (1973) - tennis player
    Britney Spears (1981) - singer

    Famous deaths:
    Philip Larkin (1985) - writer
    Aaron Copland (1990) - composer


    Meanwhile, as we're now in both advent and December, I've put a selection of mince pies behind the bar, should anyone feel seasonal. For those that aren't, a bumper pack of choc chip muffins.

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  • 98. At 01:22am on 02 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    I'm laying out a well-insulated helping of haggis, on the grounds that I won't be 'doing' You-Know-What' this year.

    Other than humouring those who can't sing carols without a guitar and someone providing all the words. Just to be nice.

    Mrs B Humbug :o)

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  • 99. At 08:35am on 02 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Morning Froggers!

    The coffee's on. Porridge with a selection of things to put in it on the bar.

    A colleague asked me the other day if I was getting all "Christmassy" and I had to say no. I guess it's a left over from my (lapsed) Methodist upbringing, but for me Christmas is really about the period from Christmas Eve - perhaps stretching to the Sunday before - through to twelfth night. The period buiklding up to is Advent, not a shopping expedition. Even as a child I hated the plastic, shop based kind of Christmas I saw even then. It feels like it's ten times worse now, though I'm sure a fair part of that impression is just me being a miserable old so and so. And don't get me started on office parties...

    Sorry to bring the mood down so early in the day, would anyone like a humbug? I've left a bag of them on the bar at Nick's.


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  • 100. At 09:00am on 02 Dec 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    mittfh (97) Add my brother and sister to your list of birthdays today ;o)
    I'm just off to deliver their presents.

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  • 101. At 09:54am on 02 Dec 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    Wonk (99), I do so agree. When I was a child the tree didn't go up until Christmas Eve, there wasn't the money for endless shopping (we kept coal in't bath you know) and everything was taken down for twelfth night. Kept it all in proportion somehow.

    Woke to lovely whiteness in RL so expect Eddie to be inundated with snow scenes for his Advent series.

    Thanks for the porridge, just what the weather in RL demands, that and log fires.

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  • 102. At 10:11am on 02 Dec 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    Coal in Bath, Luxury!. No better no go off on a pytton tangent. We got modded off the last time we did that.

    Anyhow. I had a good two inches this morning.

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  • 103. At 10:23am on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Wonko and Anne - Yes indeed, it is not yet Christmas. But it is Advent, and there are lovely traditions associated with that time of waiting before the day of Christ's birth (sorry, don't mean to come over all 'holy', but that is what the celebration is actually about). So, out with the Advent candle, and on with the preparations that need to be done in advance. Christmas tree will be bought in the next three weeks and, like Anne and her family, put up and decorated on Christmas Eve.

    It is the steps towards Christmas that make the actual day so special, don't you think?

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  • 104. At 10:24am on 02 Dec 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    2mm of snow in Brum, chaos will no doubt ensue. Time for a lie down in the tropical sunshine.

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  • 105. At 10:40am on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    That's just what the Beach is for, Mansaylo - an escape from the realities of RL! :o)

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  • 106. At 10:40am on 02 Dec 2008, U12196018 wrote:

    Stewart M - I wouldn't have thought that two inches was much to brag about to be honest.

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  • 107. At 11:25am on 02 Dec 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Stewart M 102, The cold weather causes that.

    We have a coal bunker and just had five bags delivered.

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  • 108. At 11:40am on 02 Dec 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    Mr loon, its waht you do with it ;-)

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  • 109. At 12:17pm on 02 Dec 2008, Trevor Mansell wrote:

    Where's the Advent Calendar?
    Does it have chocolates?
    Who gets to open the doors

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  • 110. At 12:42pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Mansaylo: No chocolate allowed on the Beach as it melts too quickly (though if you look in the Nick Clarke fridge, you may find some hidden behind the pina coladas) ...

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  • 111. At 1:10pm on 02 Dec 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    Big Sis, if I thought there was no chocolate allowed on the beach I would have left it long ago!
    Mansaylo, I have a secret stash in the shade next to the waterfall where it is cool enough not to melt. Help yourself.

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  • 112. At 1:27pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Ooops, Anne, you've let the cat out of the bag - I think all froggers have secret stashes dotted around the Beach, but they're secret no longer ;o)

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  • 113. At 1:43pm on 02 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    What ho!

    I've cheered up a bit. Glad to see there are others who feel as I do about the Festive Season.

    I don't have a coal bunker, we used to have one at home when I was growing up. Those were the days when our hot water was heated by a coke boiler! And the house was freezing cold!

    I hadn't found any of these chocolate stashes that seem to be hidden around the Beach. I'll have to get my bucket and spade out and start digging!

    ;o) []

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  • 114. At 1:56pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    We found our Angel's twin! We've given her to pathology to brighten up their room.

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  • 115. At 2:03pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Hark the cross eyed angel sings
    "I was nearly in that bin.
    Though my legs are past their prime
    Karen saved me, just in time!
    And though Rudolph hit the floor
    Leaving me alone and poor
    Like a lady of the night
    By that flashing red red light!
    My World Aids Day tag I wear -
    For an angel, I'm so aware"

    Now the cross eyed angel sings
    "Glory, now I have a twin!
    Yesterday I was unique
    Now I'm just a clon-ed freak!
    She will sit in majesty
    New-found star of pathology
    High atop their Christmas tree
    Leaving little, lonely me!!
    Now the cross eyed angel sings
    "Glory, now I have a twin!"

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  • 116. At 2:27pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    Love it Big Sis!!

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  • 117. At 3:04pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Karen, speaking for your little angel, could you arrange it for her to be reunited with her twin after Christmas? I feel very sorry for her .... :o)

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  • 118. At 4:17pm on 02 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Pimms O'Clock everyone!

    Well, my day has steadily improved as it has gone on, hope yours have too.

    Now where's the chocolate? [begins rummaging in the fridge]

    ;o) []

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  • 119. At 5:56pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    The angels are bound to be reunited after Christmas. Pathology were reluctant to accept the twin initially but didn't want to be accused of not getting into the spirit of the season.

    We're after names for the twins at the moment - they need names! Currently the suggestion list includes Hinge and Brackett and Dastardly and Muttley.

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  • 120. At 6:00pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Does her twin also have a gammy leg and cross eyes, Karen? This information is important in the naming process ...

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  • 121. At 6:06pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Thelma and Louise?

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  • 122. At 6:09pm on 02 Dec 2008, eddiemair wrote:

    Newton and Ridley?

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  • 123. At 6:14pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    BigSis - We kept the prettiest one! The twin has a skirt that flies up indecently too as well as the thing going on with the eyes and legs

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  • 124. At 6:19pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Well, they're both a couple of floozies by the sounds of it, though the skirt flying up one should perhaps be called Marilyn (after Monroe, of course), and perhaps the other could be called Judy, after Judy Holliday, who could cross her eyes.

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  • 125. At 6:22pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    If I was clever enough I'd get photos of them for you all. No clue how to get it posted though. The poor girls are obviously not suitable for Eddie's classy Advent photos.

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  • 126. At 6:24pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Karen, I think they'd be perfect subjects for the Advent Calendar, and now that Eddie has blessed them by joining in the naming game, I can't see how he could refuse, can you?

    Mind you, you might have to call them Newton and Ridley. Eddie's clearly a Corrie fan.

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  • 127. At 6:28pm on 02 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    I'll see what I can manage tomorrow ;o)

    She's currently stuck (I haven't asked how) to our home made Christmas Tree Advent Calendar with a pharmacy theme(!)

    There's a Christmas Tree competition at work and we're desperate to win. I'm pinning my hopes on Newton...

    Eddie - I'll understand if she gets bumped for a prettier scene.

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  • 128. At 10:16pm on 02 Dec 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    Classy Advent calendar. Am I in the wrong place

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  • 129. At 10:48pm on 02 Dec 2008, U12196018 wrote:

    Hi all and bye all. I've enjoyed this for a couple of years and I'll talk to others elsewhere but I won't post here any more - under any of the names I've used. I'll continue to listen to PM, because it is much too good to miss.

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  • 130. At 11:08pm on 02 Dec 2008, nikki noodle wrote:

    How do you follow *that* !!?!!? (129)

    All I can do is quote from another frogger:
    "Where feeble hope could ne'er have flown,
    But vainly flapped her tinsel wing"

    and add:
    "Stands dew-eyed charity, unknown
    bedecked in tinsel, spare bare bling"

    but the beach looks wonderful tonight, with the mysterious moonbeams dancing on the rippling waves...

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  • 131. At 11:11pm on 02 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    We'll miss you, you mad Horse, you!

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  • 132. At 00:31am on 03 Dec 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Oh, feefs, I do like haggis; it may be corny since I no longer live in Scotland, but I really do. Better than black or white pudding any day. Save some for me, whatever the excuse.

    n-n, Fabbitty-dabbity! Love it! Is that all your own making?

    In fact [wait for it......] marvellous! [clue: Ed]

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  • 133. At 00:39am on 03 Dec 2008, U13717586 wrote:

    Is this Lapland?

    I always imagined it was like Mount Everest near the summit, littered with cola cans, beer cans, abandoned snow shoes, dead explorers and empty tents.

    Well, it isn't. But this Beach does look too much like a Star Trek cast reunion picnic (without the ageless Uhura) for its own good. (With mine host looking like a Kirk look alike - his double in just a few short years to come. (Is that really a group of blog groupies (bloopies) getting him to sign their copies of the Radio Times?))

    Far too many chocoholics and alcofrolics, On the Beach.

    Not enough star gazers, full of wonder, or people thrilling to the strains in their own bodies when pitted against sand, sea and tide.

    A fair (sprout) wind seems as close to nature as some, here, get.


    ('Kirk to Mare. You are increasing in resemblance to me at warped factor 9. This cannot be right. As I am now, should take you 32 earth years to get here. But at this rate, you will be here in as many months, even days. Captain Harkness has exposed a weakness of yours (Thinking you cannot be seen on the wireless). St Alban's bone (as worshiped by McN) may now be your only hope of rejuvenation. Let's hope not.')

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  • 134. At 00:42am on 03 Dec 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    I'm up late, waiting for tomorrow's soup to get to the stage I can leave it; so filling time where I know it'll be well filled.

    Faith, hope have gone; mere charity remains
    And on the cruelty of man she chills her blains

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  • 135. At 09:05am on 03 Dec 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Qualified Loon (129) You know that there'll always be a hammock here when you need one ;o)

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  • 136. At 09:27am on 03 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Farewell, Educated Aberdonian (129).

    That was a bit of a bombshell, though, wasn't it? Others just quietly stop bothering but you are polite enough to say ta-ta. Good on yer.


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  • 137. At 09:37am on 03 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    According to my sources it's MadMary's birthday on Friday. (Who remembers her? Started out as MaryMary and then during Dayone she transmogrified into her true self!)

    I'm happy to send her any greetings/prezzies/drinks/wishes you have for her, if not already connected via some other sociable wotsit off-lilypad.

    I miss her.

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  • 138. At 09:46am on 03 Dec 2008, annasee wrote:

    I just have to ask - Q L - why? Have I missed something? Have you been moderated one too many times and your patience has finally snapped? Has the credit crunch impacted to such an extent that you can't afford the electricity to run your computer? I mean - why why WHY???

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  • 139. At 10:19am on 03 Dec 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    RxK 127, If you look at Advent 2007, Dec 18, you will see my nativity scene and origami Christmas tree.

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  • 140. At 1:57pm on 03 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Afternoon All!

    QL - Was it something we said? Anyhoo, fare thee well if we don't see you here again.

    Must chip in on the subject of haggis. I love it - have had it battered and deep fried, and it was delicious. Whenever Mrs Wonko and I go to Scotland we try and stock up with decent haggis as the offering from our local Tesburyaswaitsonsfield is somewhat below par. Hmmm, may have to get some now.

    I'm having a horrid day in RL, which has been brightened somewhat by the receipt of a bonus in the form of vouchers. Is it too early to open the gin?

    ;o) []

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  • 141. At 1:59pm on 03 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Wonko, for me it's always too early for gin, but if there's a brandy or a single malt around, I'll be happy to join you!

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  • 142. At 2:50pm on 03 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Big Sis - fair enough, how about this cheeky Glen Scotia?

    ;o) []

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  • 143. At 2:52pm on 03 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Thanks, Wonko, that'll do nicely. Clink clink!

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  • 144. At 4:01pm on 03 Dec 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    Afternoon Peeps, I don’t feel 100 percent but am with you in spirit!

    The baby wipes have come in useful but I am now wondering whether a spoonful of cement with the LookoZaid would help!

    Wonko, so glad to hear that the Saga vouchers have arrived! Just don't spend them all on Sprouts and Sprout accessories!

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  • 145. At 4:13pm on 03 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    DIY - I'm delighted to be able to inform you that siad vouchers are in fact for a high street music, DVD and games vendor whose name is a three letter accronyn. Other places to spend ill gotten gains on spectacular, if entertaining, wastes of time are available.

    ;o) []

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  • 146. At 5:40pm on 03 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Apparently the vouchers don't help with spelling!

    Where's that Single Malt gone?

    ;o) []

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  • 147. At 5:41pm on 03 Dec 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Sorry, Wonko, I think it's all gone .....

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  • 148. At 6:02pm on 03 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Oh well, an excuse to open a bottle of Oban then...

    ;o) []

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  • 149. At 9:29pm on 03 Dec 2008, Stewart_M wrote:

    I have an open Glen of the Livet. Will that do?

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  • 150. At 11:34pm on 03 Dec 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Better ask the Young Macallan. He still (ahem) around? I grant you there's a big selection behind the bar so I'll bow more to experts.

    But I do think the official malt should be Leapfrog... in fact Islay a bet on that.*

    *Yes, I know it's not pronounced like that

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  • 151. At 08:56am on 04 Dec 2008, Wonko wrote:

    Morning all, I'll put the coffee on.

    Pancakes and maple syrup for breakfast?

    Hmmm, where did all this Scotch come from?

    ;o) []

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  • 152. At 09:20am on 04 Dec 2008, Gillianian wrote:

    Thanks Wonko - lovely breakfast ;o)
    I'll put a glug of whisky in my tea while no-one's looking....

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  • 153. At 1:41pm on 04 Dec 2008, Anne P. wrote:

    The nice thing about pancakes and maple syrup is that you can eat them at any time of the day - thanks Wonko!

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  • 154. At 4:44pm on 04 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    Hi All. I haven't forgotten about the photo of Newton on her handmade Xmas tree. I fear that I may have caught whatever DiY had. Though come to think of it, I did start to feel really unwell after the whole Shatner experience on Tuesday night...

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  • 155. At 10:32pm on 04 Dec 2008, Izzy_Tme wrote:

    Probably Norovirus - not a happy experience I believe. Poor you lot. I'm sure there's relief on the beach in the Fifi quarrantine area.

    Take care xx

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  • 156. At 10:54pm on 04 Dec 2008, RxKaren wrote:

    Thanks Izzy. I put my symptoms into NHS Direct's symptom sorter and apparently I need to call an ambulance immediately! Funny that. When I had proper pneumonia they suggested simple linctus...

    I still think my system was rocked by the Judge Judy clip.

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  • 157. At 01:03am on 07 Dec 2008, Fifi wrote:

    Now then.

    As a now-qualified super-sleuth, having caught the murderer fair and square at tonight's Murder Mystery Night, I challenge any frogger with a mystery to solve, to provide me with the situation, the suspects and the clues... and I bet I can solve it!

    Offer ends 1.30am Sunday.

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  • 158. At 01:16am on 07 Dec 2008, jonnie wrote:

    I thought you were in a non chatty mood earlier Fi ;-)

    Only joking - I was meant to be in bed by midnight!

    We will however take your offer on.

    Anyway I've had a lovely day.

    Listened to - hang on a sec. be right back,,

    anyway as I was saying .. I downloaded the ipm podcast and got as far as the National Grid bit -

    all -


    tiudgqw d'



    I think! - Hellllllll pppppp



    Lots of blood spurts from chest wound,,,,


    (two grunts)

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  • 159. At 01:19am on 07 Dec 2008, jonnie wrote:

    ..... staggers to pc for last word

    Do the words pml ...

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  • 160. At 01:39am on 07 Dec 2008, jonnie wrote:

    Heaven -

    white sheets .....

    the smell of bold and Lenor - comfort!

    Gillian and non believers ---

    there is an after life :-)

    but who's this friend on the horizon?

    Uh Oh ;-(


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  • 161. At 01:41am on 07 Dec 2008, jonnie wrote:

    all is fine..

    just some lurking Genesis lyrics possibly.

    Night all

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