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Eddie Mair | 12:37 UK time, Thursday, 16 October 2008

Some time ago, before we all owned a bank and you could still get a loan, we had our Credit Crunch Crisis Crunch map, which revealed what people in Britain were most worried about (Alistair Darling's eyebrows, was the surprising top answer).

Now, on iPM, we're mapping again. It's very simple. Just click here to tell us how it's all going for you.

On a different subject, we might be covering the final US Presidential Debate tonight. Dunno if you saw it. (Justin Webb's essential blog entry is here). On my recent visit to the country, I saw both candidates in a music store. Just hanging around. I think a lot of this stuff about the punishing campaign schedule is just a load of media stuff and nonsense.



  • 1. At 1:01pm on 16 Oct 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh ho, so that's where you were, Eddie.

    Jetlag can take it out of you, can't it? ;o)

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  • 2. At 1:50pm on 16 Oct 2008, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    That iPM thread looks all over the place on my machine.

    Now, in a Father Ted vein, is Cardboard John McCain "small" or "far away"?

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  • 3. At 1:57pm on 16 Oct 2008, RachelG wrote:

    I've just submitted my entry for the map. Last time round, I was a "not affected". How naive. Partner now being made redundant with not so much as a sniff of an interview, let alone another job - he works in finance. I was at a bit of a loss to choose what is worrying me most - with no income, pretty much everything. I put job security in the end - since a bit of that would solve everything for us.

    Anyway, welcome back Eddie, at least now we know where you've been we can put some of the more outlandish conspiracy theories to one side ;-)

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  • 4. At 2:02pm on 16 Oct 2008, Big Sister wrote:

    Unfortunately, the options don't reflect our circumstance here. But we're worried, nonetheless.

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  • 5. At 2:07pm on 16 Oct 2008, Lady_Sue wrote:

    Welcome back Eddie. Look forward to hearing you "on ice" at 5.

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  • 6. At 2:08pm on 16 Oct 2008, mittfh wrote:

    I always thought those two contenders seemed a bit like cardboard cutouts...

    ...I'll get my coat...

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  • 7. At 2:11pm on 16 Oct 2008, Fearless Fred wrote:

    I've submitted my worries. It's changed from Mortgage to Petrol (or in my case diesel). Having lost my job in the summer, I managed to find another job, but it's 60 miles away, so my travel costs have shot up.....

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  • 8. At 2:28pm on 16 Oct 2008, dollarquake wrote:

    Regrettably the crash is not over. Last night news carried details of the Credit
    Default Swap market -risks to banks at 3/6 times world GDP.And if recession/market falls\continue the cover will be called!!
    The size is because speculators gamblers
    were buying insurance from banks in corporations which the gamblers had no interest
    CDS instruments were meant for investors loaning to Corporations on Bonds

    Surely, the gamblers must now be outlawed by world governments and banks and
    1 all bets off/no insurance[their purchase price returned
    2 the Trillions extinguished
    2 Those traders and unscrupulous investors guilty of betting on these instruments to be banned from any trading for 3mnths to 3 years depending on size of damage they have caused

    I hope PM Gordon Brown reads this


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  • 9. At 2:31pm on 16 Oct 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    Hey, Boris has cured the crunch, single handed.

    A clown act was all that was needed.

    To mittfh (from Another Place). Yep, but in the DOWNTURNS we have no belief (world view) with which to oppose the Contractionists, except in our own happiness. Rather than in justice.

    And happiness based on injustice is most vulnerable to fear.

    The Contractionists think we all must suffer (some very acutely) for Western capitalism to stay hegemonic.

    Personally, I think our most likely sporting Olympic prowess will turn out to in wheelbarrow racing.
    With a cool billion in notes, courtesy of the BoE as pay load.
    We race each other to the shops so that the barrow load will still buy a tin of corned beef.

    Get in training now, before the flight from money really takes hold.

    Was it just my Ceefax subtitles that had Boris Notgoodenough confusing 'kids' with 'quids'?

    It's what you get when you seek to save a lousy capitalist system, that should be swept away.

    'Reforms', words, words and more words will only keep a lousy system going.

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  • 10. At 3:48pm on 16 Oct 2008, mittfh wrote:

    I think the implication of the herd theory is that if cash injections can persuade a few banks (e.g. LTSB, RBS, HSBC) to start lending to each other, then others might join the herd and start building momentum.

    Western governments are very keen on encouraging the private sector, so only nationalise as a last resort. No matter how laudable and good for the economy as a whole nationalising the lot may be, it's not going to happen. And even if one country nationalised its entire banking system, there'll still be dozens of other countries that haven't yet.

    All that can happen is for the governments to continue thinking of ways to persuade the banks to start trusting each other again, and for us all to buckle up, because it's going to be a bumpy ride ahead.

    And hope that whoever's in charge when we come out at the other end of the ride knows what they're doing when it comes to cutting public spending - in the past few years Gordon's come under increasing criticism for clawing back on the huge spending increases the public sector had come to expect (even though the extra money was just keeping them standing still, rather than moving forward as intended).

    PFI (which effectively equates to buy now, pay later) probably doesn't help matters much - especially when the private providers can include favourable terms in the contract (e.g. with one PFI hospital I know, the government gets fined if it goes above 85% capacity - which strangely enough it always has been since the day it opened! Whoever implemented the scheme thought that by implementing telemedicine they could get away with decreasing the number of beds in the County by over 100...) But since both parties are enamored by PFI...

    As I said earlier, buckle up, we're in for a bumpy ride.

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  • 11. At 4:08pm on 16 Oct 2008, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    My mood is: mildly fed up that the iPM page I get when I 'click here' is impossible to read because the text of it is under the side-banner-thingy.

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  • 12. At 5:16pm on 16 Oct 2008, mittfh wrote:

    Chris: what's your browser / screensize combination?

    Looks fine for me at 1024x768 and 1280x800, using FF 3.0.3 and FF 3.1b1...

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  • 13. At 5:26pm on 16 Oct 2008, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    mittfh @ 12, I am using iCab on a Mac laptop, and Netscape on a Mac 650 quadra, but surely that shouldn't be the point? Three pages only, all put up at the same time, appear on these to have the text and pictures jumbled together or covered by the side-banner; no other pages have this problem on either machine or browser. So I'm afraid I assume that the trouble lies not in my (admittedly ancient but in all other places doing fine) setups, but in the three pages.

    And marc said he was having problems with one of them too, using his google-thingie...

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  • 14. At 5:43pm on 16 Oct 2008, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Chris (13):

    It's all askew on my Mac too. Perhaps the programme should be renamed "iPC"?

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  • 15. At 6:02pm on 16 Oct 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    C_G 11, I just went to bbc.co.uk/ipm and everything looked OK to me. Unless you mean something else. But then, I know next to nothing about computers. Turn it on, use it, turn it off.

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  • 16. At 8:34pm on 16 Oct 2008, Sid wrote:

    Chris, SSC - I get the same on my iMac/Safari. But that's what you get when people work to the PC/MS standard.

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  • 17. At 00:41am on 17 Oct 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Mood? Irritated.

    Flippin' irritated, in fact. It's all to do with


    I mean, whoopee for the people who got medals in the Olympicszzzzzzz

    But -


    And in practically every sentence on the (admittedly inferior) TV News?

    I did try to do html but the machine didn't like it, so apols for shouting.

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  • 18. At 00:45am on 17 Oct 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:

    Oh - just vented my irritation before I read the thread.

    We maccies are still not often catered for.

    I often wonder if that's why I can no longer

    Listen Live

    on my machine; not can I

    Listen Again*

    just seeing if html will work this time...

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  • 19. At 00:45am on 17 Oct 2008, needsanewnickname wrote:


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  • 20. At 08:57am on 17 Oct 2008, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Sid (16):

    It's the same text-to-the-right-of-the-image in the latest version of Firefox.

    Naughty programmers (or more probably designers) writing the blog software to Microsoft Explorer "standards" instead of the generally agreed W3C standards.

    Yet another example of a big business skewing things up for the ordinary person just because they think that what *they* do is right and everyone else has to adjust to suit. MS, oil companies, banks, what next?

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  • 21. At 1:40pm on 17 Oct 2008, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    SSC @ 20, You're probably right, but why has it happened to only three of the threads I have tried to look at, while the others in the same place (here), even those posted later, are fine?

    All very mysterious. Oh well. *sigh*

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  • 22. At 4:40pm on 17 Oct 2008, mittfh wrote:

    Since we've hijacked this thread to moan about problems with the design of the blog...

    When are they going to fix the character encoding?

    I'd like to be able to talk about £10 notes, but it will come out as []10 notes. Although we're encouraged to use English, there are occasions when we need to use accents...

    (Looks at the source in HTML Tidy).
    0 errors, 12 warnings.
    Interestingly, the top of the page gives an HTML 4.01 Transitional doctype, whereas the comments section has a XHTML 1.0 Strict doctype. You should only have one doctype on a page - right at the top!

    Then there's a bit of script that sets ISO-8859-1 character encoding, closely followed by a meta tag declaring UTF-8 encoding.

    It looks very much as though they've cobbled together two different templates, without reconciling the differences first...

    Could someone briefly list the three pages that are displaying incorrectly? I have a box running Linux at home, so I can try numerous alternative rendering engines to see which 'break' and which don't...

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  • 23. At 4:55pm on 17 Oct 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Let'see: £ $ € ¢

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  • 24. At 4:56pm on 17 Oct 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Hey the £ worked! (But not the "Let's see")

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  • 25. At 4:57pm on 17 Oct 2008, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    mittfh @ 22,

    The three pages that have looked strange on my system because of superimpositions are:

    The iPM map/chart about the credit crunch, in which the text on the right is underneath the banner-thingie to the right

    'Reg Wilson's War' (also under 'bomber_reg') has text and the second picture, of an aeroplane, mingled

    'Is art recession-proof?' has text on/over/under picture 2 and picture 4.

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  • 26. At 11:08am on 19 Oct 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    RE 23 and 24: the pound and cent sign worked when I first posted them, but both are now . And the euro is now a ?. The $ reigns supreme.

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  • 27. At 7:12pm on 20 Nov 2008, Toldyouitwould wrote:


    Come on Moderators

    Have a word with IT Department.


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