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Monday morning...

Eddie Mair | 10:44 UK time, Monday, 11 August 2008

daleka.jpg"Eddie, Alan Titchmarsh completes scaled-down redesign of Dalek for BBC. (from an idea by ErikZDundee) David McNickle St Albans"

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  • 1. At 10:57am on 11 Aug 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    Has someone got a bit too much time on their hands?

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  • 2. At 11:06am on 11 Aug 2008, U10783173 wrote:

    Is this the start of a wheelie bin/Dalek construction competition? I'll have a go if it is!

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  • 3. At 11:30am on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Tbird 1, If Erik hadn't open his mouth.....

    TIH 2, No, it isn't. I'm in a long line of installation 'artists' like Tracy Emin, Damien Hirst , and the Chapman brothers. The difference is that I don't call mine art and charge a lot of money for them. Besides, I am using the bits in the garden today....if it doesn't rain. Get your own ideas. OK, mine was suggested by EZD, but I gave him credit.

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  • 4. At 12:01pm on 11 Aug 2008, Matterbooboo wrote:

    Mr McNickle - Your wheelie bin is owned by the council. It is inappropriate to place equipment under the lid (you could have someone's eye out). The council will object to having their bin used in this manner. There are penalties for defacing public property. You should quickly sort out your bin, bucket and broom, before the man from the council comes round to get you. Do you live in a cul-de-sac or something? What are your greenhouse gas emissions like?

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  • 5. At 12:24pm on 11 Aug 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    MBB(4) I'm not sure of the relevance of "Dalek-boy" living in a cul-de-sac or not. Surely it is plain for all to see that he is just looking for attention and possibly a mention on Friday's letters.

    Don't rise to it, I haven't.......

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  • 6. At 12:30pm on 11 Aug 2008, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Thunderbird (5):

    So cynical for a Monday. Did you get out from the wrong side of your bridge this morning?

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  • 7. At 12:45pm on 11 Aug 2008, DI_Wyman wrote:

    D-M, hoe, hoe!

    DiY:)

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  • 8. At 12:52pm on 11 Aug 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    SSC, Meeeeoooowwww! Trip trap, trip trap...

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  • 9. At 12:59pm on 11 Aug 2008, U10783173 wrote:

    Matterbooboo (4) - I can't speak for DMcN's council area, but everyone in my area owns their wheelie bin.

    DMcN (3) - Don't care - I'm going to have a go anyway.

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  • 10. At 1:02pm on 11 Aug 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    Let's take a trip on Viagra,
    This time it won't look so small.

    Brilliant for an 86 year old in his second childhood, even if the egg plant treatment didn't work.

    As for the phone post card, well, it's not just on the phone. Yanks, particularly Republicans Abroad, can never shut it.

    They usually turn out to have been in the queue of collaborators telling the Vietcong where McCain could be found.

    I'm glad we took the swimming gold from them by a nose.

    Hey, F-O, Aurelius was an Emperor telling everyone else to know their place.

    Ah, the delicious irrelevance of badinage cheek.

    Meanwhile the PRICES rise as all seek to protect themselves against the credit crunch. Which they are exacerbating by...price rises.

    All become prisoners of the same dilemma.

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  • 11. At 1:28pm on 11 Aug 2008, Mrs Effingham wrote:

    Place all rubbish in Nigel Rees's in-tray.

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  • 12. At 1:42pm on 11 Aug 2008, thenicecatlady wrote:

    Is that the working broom from last weeks picture? Is it slumming and having an illicit relationship with the hoe?

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  • 13. At 1:52pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Mbb 4, I've already emailed a councillor about it. OK, a Lib Dem. Considering your post, you'd be one of the last people I'd give a hint as to where I live.

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  • 14. At 1:55pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Tbird 5, Hadn't thought about that...

    TIH 9, If you look close enough, you will see the Council logo on the bin. They provide them, and all sorts of other boxes. Hmmmmm, wonder what I could do with them.

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  • 15. At 1:57pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 10, Have you been nosing around in my bin?

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  • 16. At 1:58pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    tncl 12, Well spotted. I paid twice to pose.

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  • 17. At 2:38pm on 11 Aug 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    Dave (14) 'course you haven't princess.

    We shall see.

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  • 18. At 2:39pm on 11 Aug 2008, Thunderbird wrote:

    Is the room for a Scottish tennis player in there?

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  • 19. At 4:13pm on 11 Aug 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    Everyone but DMcN:

    Don't be jealous. He probably won't get the Hamlet role so there's still a chance for you all.

    Personally I've never come across such a well mannered American sweetie pie before.

    With most Yanks it's total aggression 'till they get the fame and fortune they feel they deserve. That aggression is what white America is built on.

    Believe me, guys, (Eddie et al) I've tried sweet talking these Yanks. The only thing they really understand is gun law.
    Remember John Bolton calmly telling Eddie that democracy in Pakistan was against US interest.

    Hey, ho,
    Happy Nagasaki Day!

    Before Bush's first 'election' victory, I told CalifornIA radio listeners (courtesy of Radio 5 Live) that Bush was
    'The two legged hombre
    As worthless as Iraqi sand
    Who smiles like a saint
    With the gun lobby in his hand'

    Bush had on a swagger everywhere he went like he wanted a fist fight in a saloon.

    This time round the Republican candidate looks like he's going for the sympathy vote.

    More like Zimmer frame and Fortune magazine, this one.

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  • 20. At 4:26pm on 11 Aug 2008, Hugh_Z_Hackenbach wrote:

    Why pmLeader, old chap, do you have a problem with clear English … or are you of artistic bent?

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  • 21. At 4:55pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 10, You are a bittttter person.

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  • 22. At 4:56pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    Tbird 18, You saw that too? Lost to the world, er, um, no ranking worth mentioning.

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  • 23. At 4:57pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 19, I did Hamlet in school.

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  • 24. At 5:00pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 19, Why can't you do something constructive. I am only here to enjoy myself and hope I amuse others. Go use another thread if you don't like me or Americans.

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  • 25. At 5:01pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    HZH 20, Bent, yes. Artistic, no.

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  • 26. At 5:13pm on 11 Aug 2008, U10783173 wrote:

    DMcN (24) - We're stuck with pmLeader (or mac as I like to think of him) because no-one talks to him elsewhere. He's not anti-you or anti-american, he's just anti.

    It's semi-erudite drivel and nonsense mostly, but usually with the intention to annoy. He lives under a bridge, you know.

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  • 27. At 5:21pm on 11 Aug 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    21.

    The bitter biter bit a bit 'o' bitter bitters.

    (Where indeed, Jones had had.................had had)

    What is today's casualty figures for civilain deaths in Afghanistan?

    Yesterday we heard (Voice of America) that 'Afghan President Hamid Karzai says NATO and U.S. air strikes in Afghanistan are only killing civilians'

    'The UN said in June, 2008 that...about 255 [civilians were killed]..in military operations' in Afghanistan over the previous year.
    Just two in the three days from Hiroshima remembered to Nagasaki remembered.

    What IS Karzai complaining about?

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  • 28. At 5:34pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 27,

    This is meant to be a lighthearted thread.

    I am totally against being in Afghanistan. Let 'em wipe each other out.

    We (Americans) should get out of everywhere, then you can shut up.
    Go to The Furrowed Brow or The Glass Box if you want to be political.

    EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

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  • 29. At 5:38pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    TIH 26, Was that your attempt at a dalek?

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  • 30. At 7:01pm on 11 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    TIH 26, pmLeader is no anti of mine. Where is that Dalek you promised?

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  • 31. At 7:32pm on 11 Aug 2008, U11204129 wrote:

    28

    After '...had)' the post was not about you, dear, not even as an Aunt Sally.

    Just as this one isn't after '...ally.'




    Every day for a few minutes before PM we hear about 1968.


    The similarities, now and then, increase all the time.

    A Labour Government thoroughly discredited.

    'Time to form a revolutionary party' many thought.

    Sam Aaronowitz and Ralph Miliband said so, and highly influential they were too.

    Dennis Healey said he'd been there, done it and had got it wrong.

    But he was clearly part of the old guard. The times were a'changin'. He was clearly a dreadful, compromised broken reed.

    Benn declaring he was a revolutionary working from the inside sounded implausible.

    So the Labour Party lost a generation of cadre, often from 'new' educational backgrounds (first generation at University, 1944 Education Act beneficiaries)

    Many followed the example of hip student acid heads at Hornsey and elsewhere, or feminist academics who declared the Universities impossibly compromised and dropped out.

    Now David Milband and Hilary Benn and David Aaronowitz and Kim Howells and Germaine Greer and.. tell us by thought word and deed that the bourgeois life and/or bourgeois politics in the Labour Party is de rigeur.

    The loss of the cadre led astray in the 60s to the fringes of political and social life was certainly what paved the way for 15 years of Thatcherism.

    I have no doubt that to many young people, David and David and Kim and Germane and Neil (who never deviated from the party he knew and loved) telling them not to forsake their own futures because of Brown or Iraq or Afghanistan or.... seems like the old sold-out tosh that we were handed.

    (I shouted the odds at the time with the best of them)

    And their couselling caution must sound like them doing their bit, making sure that their knees are firmly under the tables in the dining cars of the gravy trains.

    Sometimes, indeed, those who cried havoc in '68 seem like something from the Manitoba (?) snake pits, trying to secure their own grasp on power and influence.

    No doubt there are such voices today telling the young much the same story.

    Those voices managed to marginalise the Marxist left then, in '68. If today, such voices manage to persuade Islamic Militants, anti - pollution, anti - war, anti Brown and Class Warriors etc not to take up boring careers in the Labour Party and dull bourgeois life, they will have done the same disservice the dads of the Davids and the Hilarys did in '68.

    The beneficiaries of marginalised politics and social life, when such marginalsiation denudes the mainstream labour organisations of effective cadre, as it did in the 60s, are the Tories, waiting in the wings.

    With the usual rhetorical nonsense:

    'Politics is dead. Enjoy yourself, it's the end of history and ideology' and ethics and reason.

    I speak as someone without an axe to grind. I have been unemployed for 17 years and have lived from hand to mouth. I owe no vested interest or paymaster, in the Labour Party or anywhere else, a duty of cooperation in some bourgeois sell out or scam.

    Marginalising oneself is NOT the way. It is better to be sick at heart at the world, and one's so conventional role in it, every night for 40 years and so keep worse things at bay, than have the luxurious feeling of political purity at the cost of letting the worst come about.


    And believe me, Brown is an angel compared with Toryism, on the rampage.

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  • 32. At 05:51am on 12 Aug 2008, MarcusAureliusII wrote:

    Waring! Warning! Run! Run! The Daleks are attacking! "We are the rulers of the universe." Hey, these are tough times. You have to make adjustments when you are on a tight budget. The audience will have to use its imagination.

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  • 33. At 09:57am on 12 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 31, Scroll the troll. I notice you make no mention of Russia's invasion of Georgia.

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  • 34. At 10:06am on 12 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    pmLeader 31, Nobody has the slightest idea what your posts are about.

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  • 35. At 10:15am on 12 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    MAII 32, Hmmmmm....wonder if I can make a TARDIS. Or a Catherine Tate....

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  • 36. At 10:31am on 12 Aug 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Diversion

    ;-)#
    ed

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  • 37. At 10:38am on 12 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    EI 36, Haven't shaved yet this morning?
    ;¬)

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  • 38. At 11:06am on 12 Aug 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Nope

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  • 39. At 11:13am on 12 Aug 2008, U10783173 wrote:

    DMcN (37)- I think the question should have been - 'Haven't shaved yet this decade?

    Ed I (38) - When is your 'flounder-treading' day, or has it already been this year?

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  • 40. At 11:37am on 12 Aug 2008, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    For the first year in four decades, the flounders need have no fear - "the committee" got drunk instead.
    ;-)

    "fun day" this weekend!

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  • 41. At 12:21pm on 12 Aug 2008, David_McNickle wrote:

    EI 38, Somebody muat have punched me in the nose. It wasn't like that when I posted it. Maybe pmLeader...

    TIH 39, Why not try that fish slapping thing Python did?

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