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Eddie Mair | 10:27 UK time, Thursday, 16 August 2007

This is the place to comment on tonight's programme.

It's also where I'll be posting all comments today...as I think this will make 999 entries. Emergency!

Here is the latest total (at 1030) for the number of posts by me and comments by us all:

thursnum.jpg

Tomorrow I expect I will have a blizzard of postings but today I will be good.

Also tomorrow - our BIG NEWS. YOU will hear it first right here.

1145 UPDATE:

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1330 UPDATE:

We are VERY close to 50,000!

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REAL 1330 UPDATE (sorry i jumped 30 minutes earlier) we are 49 away from 50,000. I will do my best to not the moment we go through 50,000, take a pic alongside the time! I suspect I will miss it but live in hope. Later: new photos from Hugh on his travels - the poor man just phoned five times in an effort to get a solid connection from India.

1350 UPDATE:
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1412: Fewer than 20 to go!

1420: WHO is it going to be? We are ten comments away from our 50,000th!

Comments

  1. At 10:35 AM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    But Eddie - unless we are very reserved we will hit the total today !

  2. At 10:47 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Eddie Mair wrote:

    I rather think we might Jonnie (1) and that is just fine!

  3. At 10:52 AM on 16 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Is it time to apply teh brakes....do we have brakes? Maybe deploying parachutes instead....

  4. At 10:54 AM on 16 Aug 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    A quick finger calc, er , 879, plus 1 for jonnie's, makes 880, less 1000, is 120. phew!

    120.

    that's still more than a 'usua'l day's postings, isnt it?! we can't hang back now!!!! otherwise we'll arrive at 12:20 on Fri with something like 99, 947....

    aaaah

    n-n

  5. At 11:00 AM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    So I'll not post too many so others have a chance

  6. At 11:00 AM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    I think that's only fair really

  7. At 11:08 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Yes, Jonnie. I think today we all need to go on a diet.

    Eddie: Could you kindly provide an update on postings this evening?

    The strategy for today, from the number of postings already, and if we want to hit the 50K on the anniversary (i.e. tomorrow) should, I suggest, be to post consistently but not madly, but holding back until after the usual outpourings from listeners on the Glass Box.

    Could froggers do this? And then, if Eddie can update us at, say, sometime between 9 and 10, we can pick up the pace of posting (OOh what a lot of p's!) in the evening, if necessary.

    Eddie, are you able to update us further just before midnight tonight?

    So many questions .......

    I'm getting SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited!

  8. At 11:15 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Why have we failed so misearbly on the trackback front?

    I think we should be told.

    And, you're still giving us some pretty fuzzy screenshots....

    xx
    ed

  9. At 11:19 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Fearless Fred wrote:

    All I can hope is that my attempt to surf in the coffeeshop tomorrow (whilst waiting for MOT to be done) works. I'd hate to miss out on the early announcement of whatever it is :)

  10. At 11:20 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    I don't care about the calculations, I just want to have a quick burst on me old banjo!

    We've been worried because the younger daughter is in Peru -- but she rang just now (4am her time) to let us know she is ok. Meanwhile I had rung her school and got her A-level results, and she got straight As and she has a place at Oxford and I am *not* coherent and I am not caring for whether we hit 50,000 at the right moment I just had to jump up and down and squeak and be happy and I can't get to the beach unless I go and borrow a big computer so I shall do the squeaking and bouncing here.

    Ti-ra-la-la-i-tu! I gloat! Hear me!

    OK, I'll go away now. See you later when I have calmed down a bit.

  11. At 11:23 AM on 16 Aug 2007, kate h wrote:

    Now all this talk of numbers is all very well but what I want to know is, does Eddie have his Elvis suit ready for the party tomorrow? I can't see the webcam, can anyone have a look for me?

  12. At 11:25 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Jonnie: We're onto your tricks!

    I know, you want to be Mr. 50K, don't you?

  13. At 11:29 AM on 16 Aug 2007, andycroak wrote:

    I won't post much here today then either.

  14. At 11:30 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie:

    "That is just fine"

    Okay. So, you've set yourself a personal target - but you're not worried that froggers, too, may have a target?

    And as for that Jonnie, we know his game .... :)

  15. At 11:35 AM on 16 Aug 2007, The New Blog Prince aka Marc wrote:

    Ed @ 8

    I would tell you more about trackbacks if I could...but here's the explanation from the user's manual about them.

    I'd welcome a translation to help me understand it!

    Chapter 8: TrackBacks

    Weblog comments still require the use of that particular site's interface and the content is limited to that one weblog unless it is cut, pasted, and posted elsewhere.

    Released in August 2002 as both an open protocol and new functionality in version 2.2, TrackBack was designed to provide a means of notification through a small message called a ping that establishes a link between web resources.

    This sounds simple, but its potential applications are actually quite broad. To compound matters, many confuse link tracking, as it is implemented in MT and other tools, as the protocol's sole purpose, thereby missing other realms of possibility.

  16. At 11:41 AM on 16 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Chris - wow!! that is truly wonderful; we are celebrating RJD's daughters results on the beach too so have brought over some cake and bucks fizz (kindly donated by Molly)

  17. At 11:44 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Sorry, I am trying to be moderate, honest guys, but I just have to say to Chris

    WELL DONE CHRIS' DAUGHTER!

    Have a lovely day, Chris! And tell her from me that she's a very clever girl and has a marvellous dad.

  18. At 11:45 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Gossipmistress wrote:

    Mr Fish - Congratulations to your daughter!!
    Champers on the beach?

    *I am not malicious!*

    *I am certainly not thatmalicious*

  19. At 11:47 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Joe Palooka wrote:

    Eddie,

    The great man Chris Evans, who presents Drivetime on BBC Radio Two (weekdays 1700-1900). His blog comments reached 425000 (four hundred and twenty five thousand) in just eight months.

  20. At 11:50 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Rachel G wrote:

    Chris - what wonderful news! Getting my A-level results remains one of the most brilliant days of my life - more than 20 years and 3 children later. The relief, the joy, the prospect of a whole new life opening up.

    I'm taking my orders from Sgt Sis and will post no more until this evening. Have a great Thursday, everyone!

  21. At 11:58 AM on 16 Aug 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    I remember being robbed of the first 100th comment to a thread by some sort of html shenanigans.....

    Long time gone, loads-a comments sent, a few less shown up....

    Remember THIS??

    xx
    ed

  22. At 12:08 PM on 16 Aug 2007, sacrebleu wrote:

    Are we there yet?

  23. At 12:14 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Congratulations to fishy Chris and RJD and any other parents of successful A level offspring- and the offspring too of course.

  24. At 12:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, sacrebleu wrote:

    a·hem (-hm) interj.
    Used to attract attention or to express doubt or warning.

    which meaning did you intend, eddie?

  25. At 12:33 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    Are we there yet?

    Are we there yet?


    Are we there yet?

    Can we stop? I need a wee.

  26. At 12:38 PM on 16 Aug 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Brilliant, Chris Fish!!!!

    Many congratulations! Which college is she going to?!

    n-n
    xx

  27. At 12:40 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    well done to all those A level folks. I hope you got the grades you were hoping for.

    Big Sis (7). Poor eric won't get any sleep if you make him check his comments box at midnight. He needs his beauty sleep.

  28. At 12:41 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Congratulations to Chris and RJD's youngsters on their results, and a big sturdy umbrella for Roberto.

    Shall we have a sweep for what time we pass the 50,000 mark? Prize is to allowed to be smug until we hit 100,000.

    I say between 2:30 and 3pm today.

  29. At 12:48 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Joe Palooka: You are a charlatan!

    We all *know* that Eddie's Blog is far more dynamic than that of Brother Evans. And, where is Mr. Evans, pray? His last posting was dated 10th August. Something about getting married? Well, Lord Mair wouldn't allow that to stop him ....

    Furthermore, since Brother Evans doesn't even deign to post on a daily basis, and the comments on his blog rarely exceed 100 per posting, I do rather think you're telling us a little porky it the statistic you quote.

    Don't you think it's time you just gave up?

  30. At 12:49 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Fifi wrote:

    Chris Ghoti (10) : Whe-heeeeeeey!

    * does usual little celebratory dance *

    Oh my, your cup runneth over today dothn't it!

    Congratulations to Chris's daughter, congratulations to Chris's daughter's dad, and congratulations to Oxford for having such a clever girl joining you soon.

    Fifi

  31. At 12:50 PM on 16 Aug 2007, RJD wrote:

    Joe Palooka (19) - Joe, I've had a look and no, they didn't amount to anything approaching that number. On a quick examination, I reckon you are wrong by a factor of at least 10. I think you should get a recount. :o)

  32. At 12:51 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Paul Gledhill wrote:

    As I used to say to my parents on long car journeys "Are we there yet?"

  33. At 12:53 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Penrose Feast wrote:

    Sorry to get all news-y but....

    Did anyone notice this, reported yesterday by celebrity blogger 'Rachel from north London?'
    Legal Challenge to Government as Pressure Grows for Independent 7/7 Inquiry.

    I thought this might me worth a few minutes of clean air ...

    PS

    On another matter entirely.

    Do you want to hear our favourite presenter groaning under the wieght of polite embaressment and thinking to himself "Why did I ever do this? When will it end? And when do I get my cheque?"

    Then why not do yourself an emotional injury and listen again to this weeks edition of BBC7's 'Wireless Wise (.ram file),' the lamest quiz of the week.

  34. At 12:55 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    Any guesses what the 1000th Blog post title will be tomorrow.

    I suppose Day 365 Beach is too obvious.

  35. At 12:55 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    The Cat:

    Well, since it does look likely that we may do as you say, your idea sounds quite good, but I think the betting window will need to be narrower than the one you've posted, or there is unlikely to be an 'outright winner'. And, no, you can't squat on a whole 30 min slot like that and say "I was here first - ner nerdy ner ner".

    So I say, revise your slot to max 5 mins, and then perhaps we can all play?

  36. At 12:57 PM on 16 Aug 2007, RJD wrote:

    Joe Palooka (19) - Revised estimate for Chris Evans' Blog in a year - 33,200. (and that is being generous).

  37. At 12:58 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Hang on...

    49934 on the *1330* update?

    My watch says it's still only 1305...

    Eddie, has you been playing in that TARDIS again?

  38. At 12:58 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    wichi (3)


    re brakes.......all Eddie has to do is give the 'moderators' a bung and they can do the rest. That way he can have control over us all and perhaps 'auction off' 49,999 & 50,000 to the highest bidder/s?

    DIY

  39. At 01:05 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Joe Palooka wrote:

    Calm down Big Sis (28)

    The blog statistics for Chris Evans (Radio Two 5pm) were announced on Blue Peter, so they must be true!

  40. At 01:08 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    This posted at 13.11 p.m.

    And now, Eddie, you're hallucinating! 1330? Are all those Elvis's getting to you by any chance?

    Whatever you're on, I'll have a glass please!

  41. At 01:13 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Stewart M (27):

    "Big Sis (7). Poor eric won't get any sleep if you make him check his comments box at midnight. He needs his beauty sleep."

    Whatever do you mean?
    Eric doesn't sleep.

  42. At 01:13 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    Well done Chris's daughter. Obviously takes after her dad.


    But cheer up ONE and ALL!!


    Reasons to cheer:

    1. Hey, if the markets loose 'confidence' in all this money the central banks are printing maybe these so called investors will go back to shares!

    2. All over the world people with too much brass neck (the market maker - shakers) are losing confidence in their capacity to con the rest of us.

    3. Since the bourses are still (in FTSE terms 1000 points) overvalued lets hope the market makers continue to get these attacks of conscience.
    (Nils Desperandum tells us the world economy is in good order. But the stock markets and housing markets are still ridiculously inflated. Does Si Worrall really want dishonesty to reign and the FTSE recover to 6,800?)

    4. If things carry on this way maybe Al Qieda won't attack America again, Si.

    5. We're at the stage where any news to these guys is bad news. They deserve it.
    (And we were at that stage when the subprime news got through too. In better mood even our current set of financial crooks could have coped with that 75 billion default (over so many years)).


    So, even allowing for 'normal profits' there's another 17 percent of falls to go. But markets won't get that real and honest. So the fat cats will continue to over-value their assets so they get an unfairly large share of the cake.
    Another case of America disregarding majority opinion and calling itself democratic.

    (In these asset markets price determines asset value (inaccurately) but it also determines how much people can borrow and spend without loss. A booming stock market is like a Widow's cruse. The fat cats inflalte the price of shares to the extent they think they can get away with it. Here's hoping they continue to lack 'confidence'. Si can explain all that better than I, I think, I'm out of practise explainin')

    This blog has been passed as non - defamatory and deemed sane (just) by a trustworthy fellow bog standard blogger.

    PS It may not be Christmas yet but those market boys are certainly beginning to talk turkey, and get sage (at last) and onioned.

  43. At 01:14 PM on 16 Aug 2007, silver-fox wrote:

    Great

  44. At 01:16 PM on 16 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    DiW (30) - now that is cunning, but do you really think Mr Mair could be bought?

  45. At 01:17 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie:

    Should we all shout BINGO!!?

    when we reach 50K?

  46. At 01:18 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Harry wrote:

    Just helping numbers. Nothing more constructive than that I'm afraid.

  47. At 01:19 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Big Sister (35):

    I thought I'd cut it down to 2:45 to 3:00 before posting as I had the same thought. However, I had no idea that Eddie had jumped forward half an hour and seen that we were so close.

    I think this is far too late a guess, but in the interests of fairness, I'll pick 2:45 to 2:50 which was within my original range. I'll actually be surprised if we don't make it by 2pm.

  48. At 01:20 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    What a time for there to be a bloggage!

    Or is somebody saving up comments so the blogbarrier gets burst in one huge blast?

  49. At 01:22 PM on 16 Aug 2007, silver-fox wrote:

    blog.

  50. At 01:23 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    In deference, shouldn't 'Malicious' be re - tagged RETURN to SENDER.

  51. At 01:24 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Humph wrote:

    SSCat (36) But your post was supposedly sent at 12:58pm. Either you need to adjust your watch or Eddie is not the only one who has been playing in the TARDIS.

    H.

  52. At 01:25 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Little Miss Poppy wrote:

    Thanks Harry. @ 46??

  53. At 01:28 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie, Hello Eddie, Eddie - are you there?

    Oh, and SSC, looks like we'll be there afore-ye.

    Listening to Eddie Mair on Penrose's link.

    Eddie Mair, nightMair, Mair here Mair there Mair everywhere.

    Thanks, Penrose, for that link - I'm enjoying it (and it makes a break from Elvis)

  54. At 01:30 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Blog

    Overload

  55. At 01:30 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    mac (50):

    Now, don't be cruel...

  56. At 01:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Should we club together and send Eddie a watch that works? :)

  57. At 01:33 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Blog

    Overload

    Grows

    Over

    Frustrated

    Froggers

  58. At 01:36 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Dib Dib Dib

  59. At 01:37 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Simon Worrall wrote:

    WOO-HOOOOOO!!!!!

    Well done Chris' distaff sproglet.

    And Chris, you're right to celebrate her success. Be proud and make damned sure that she knows it.

    Dare I ask which college? And what she'll be reading?

    Damn if we get to 50k early, as long as we get there finally. Winning the race is what matters, not the winning time. You can take this too far. What if the programme tonight has items that generate a massive response into the GB? Is no-one going to comment just in case we accidentally cross the line early? And that's fine for the 'regulars', but what about occasional or new commentators who don't get the plot?

    Si.

  60. At 01:41 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Di Millman wrote:

    Well I was going to post something, but I don't think I had better now! Leave it til later?

  61. At 01:43 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Big Sister (55):

    That's what happens when they switch off the clock up Big Ben; the BBC's timekeeping goes all to pot.

    So, do we think Eddie is actually doing any work right now, or is he just sitting behind a super-espresso watching the blog-count?

  62. At 01:44 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    This is the Blog
    The best Blog
    The Blog for the Frog
    The best Frog
    The Blog for the Frog
    And the Frog for the Future
    The Future's uncertain
    For the Blog and the Frog
    But the Blog and the Frog
    Together will be
    Always and ever
    A happy memory
    For me.
    And Eddie.
    (And all the rest of us, I hope)

  63. At 01:46 PM on 16 Aug 2007, lurker wrote:

    Stewart M (34),

    Surely tomorrow would be Day 366 Beach, there being 365 days in a year and tomorrow would be the first day of the second year of the Blog, i.e. it's birthday.

    Also puzzled as to why people's comments about it being five past one are entered at two minutes to one etc. Perhaps Eddie's put the frog in the TARDIS to help get all the timings right.

  64. At 01:46 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Tuppence wrote:

    I'm confused. Does this mean you don't want me any more?

    (are we neearly....?

    T

  65. At 01:47 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    A moment to savour:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigsisonlilypad/1136838809/

  66. At 01:51 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    You do realise that I'm now feeling very ashamed, after asking everybody else to frog sparingly? :oZ

  67. At 01:52 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    38 to go! 38 to go!

  68. At 01:55 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Time for lunch?

  69. At 01:57 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Elvis was an FBI agent!?

    Could be interesting listening .....

  70. At 01:58 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Charlie wrote:


    ...does anyone know what cleaning fluid is used to keep the Glass Box "sparkling"..?

  71. At 01:59 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Dont quote me on this but ......

  72. At 02:03 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    I think we're getting near to our goal.

  73. At 02:03 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Big sis (56)

    re.. going clubbing together whilst Eddie watches

    ...i'm up for it, count me in gal, where we goin'?

    DIY:)

  74. At 02:04 PM on 16 Aug 2007, beetee wrote:

    Congratulations to Chris's daughter.Such a happy day.Futher happiness on a lesser scale. We are getting a new sofa and chairs after thirty one years. Do any cat owners know any fool proof way of stopping the felines from using furniture as claw sharpeners?

  75. At 02:06 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    am I too late?

  76. At 02:10 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    DIY - You're on, mate.

  77. At 02:11 PM on 16 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Beetee - I have installed a large scratch post right by the end of my sofa and that seems to distract. Have also heard they don't like the smell of citrus but I didn't like the idea of rubbing lemon soap on the furniture!

  78. At 02:13 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    jbagpuss:

    You wouldn't be my brother, by any chance? He calls me Mrs. Bagpuss

  79. At 02:13 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    I've got to go to a meeting now, so I'll probably miss the big moment, so I'll start this off, and you lot can finish it.

    Zoom out from Thunderbird 5... whoosh!

    5...

  80. At 02:14 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    I would have suggested a prize for the 50,000th post, but in the current climate of competitions, maybe not....

  81. At 02:15 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    All this blogging has bloggered my PC. I can only blog blog blog - all other functions have been denied me!

    August 16th: The Day the Blog hit 50K -
    and broke Big Sis's PC

  82. At 02:15 PM on 16 Aug 2007, JB wrote:

    Does the 50,000th get a prize?

  83. At 02:16 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    Big sis, not that I am aware of - my sister doesn't listen to Radio 4...shame!!!

    However, I am open to offers!

  84. At 02:16 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Goal?

    DIY

  85. At 02:17 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    So, Eddie, is it 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, or 19 to go?

  86. At 02:18 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Jason Good wrote:

    And then it started to rain again.

  87. At 02:18 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Piper wrote:

    Is there a prize..?

  88. At 02:18 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eat your heart out, Joe Palooka! (oh, and Chris Evans, by the way)

  89. At 02:18 PM on 16 Aug 2007, JB wrote:

    Must be there now!

  90. At 02:19 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Altogether now:

    For he's a jolly good fellow
    For he's a jolly good fellow
    For he's a jolly good fellow
    And so say all of us!

  91. At 02:19 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    OWN GOAL?

    curb malicious.....'snot

    DIY

  92. At 02:19 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    amazing

  93. At 02:20 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    to blog or not to blog

  94. At 02:20 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Blue Peter wrote:

    Clearly, we're the winners...

  95. At 02:21 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    Phew, all this excitement. What will happen when we get to 100,000 posts? I suspect the next 50,000 will be much quicker

  96. At 02:21 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    What happens at 50,000. Do we all revert to September again?

  97. At 02:23 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Harry wrote:

    BIG elvis on CNN. Very much in his latter days.

  98. At 02:23 PM on 16 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    This is all too much....and how can I celebrate in an office full of non-froggers!!!

  99. At 02:24 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    I'm starting the celebrations now

    The champagne's chilled
    The glass is ready,

    Just about to pop that cork ........

  100. At 02:24 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Never before in the field of 'Frogging' has so much been achieved by......

    DIY

  101. At 02:24 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Frances O wrote:

    Are we there yet?

    (Eddie: Just round the next corner)


    Oi! That was not malicious! It was helpful.

    Sabotaging of frog by malicious warning thingie.

  102. At 02:26 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    Hard to believe where 50,000 posts have gone

  103. At 02:26 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Quick, guys .......

  104. At 02:27 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    the suspense is killing us all

  105. At 02:28 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    We are there ....! surely bu now!

  106. At 02:28 PM on 16 Aug 2007, sacrebleu wrote:

    Must be there by now. Yee hah

  107. At 02:29 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    C'mon Eddie, if you were telling the truth ten minutes ago, we're well and truly there now!

    Who's for champagne?

  108. At 02:29 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    is it me?


    is it me?

  109. At 02:29 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    We are there ....! surely by
    now!

  110. At 02:30 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Okay, guys, once more round the block .....

  111. At 02:31 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    Still no posts appearing?

  112. At 02:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Blue Peter wrote:

    Well, "WE" are jonnie (96), that's for sure...

  113. At 02:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Roberto Carlos Alvarez-Galloso,CPUR wrote:

    Just wanted to let BBC PM and the Froggers know that Dean has become a Category 1 Hurricane. While it is not expected to hit Florida, I am monitoring it. In fact, some photos of Roberto next to a Hurricane Map were E Mailed to BBC PM.

  114. At 02:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jonnie wrote:

    Please let it *NOT* be Joe Palooka

  115. At 02:32 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Jonnie - There are a whole load of posts not getting through

    I imagine there's a technical hitch up there ...

  116. At 02:33 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Beetee wrote:

    Thank you witchiwoman.We must be there now so can actually go off and do stuff.

  117. At 02:34 PM on 16 Aug 2007, FMcD wrote:

    This must be a record. Nearly 100 comments before the programme has even started!

  118. At 02:35 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    I have posted several times since the last one which has appeared here.

    Where are they?

  119. At 02:36 PM on 16 Aug 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Congratulations to Jonnie, Eddie, Marc, the BBC techies, the lovely moderators, and to us, the Froggers.

    Wha's like us?

  120. At 02:37 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    Eddie, the suspense .... c'mon, be a pal!

  121. At 02:38 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    New Blog Prince:

    Has Eddie fallen off his chair in excitement?

  122. At 02:39 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    I see Dean has now been upgraded to hurricane and may hit the Texas coast within 5 days, unless it bumps into the Yucatan peninsula and slows down.

    I first started hurricane watching when I used to travel to North Carolina where colleagues were used to having to keep a weather eye out, and occasionally British colleagues were stranded waiting for one to blow itself out.

    Predictions for this year seem to be for above average numbers and 3-5 major storms.

    Roberto, we'll be thinking of you.

  123. At 02:42 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Huzzah! At least I can say "I woz dere" when the blog hit the big 1k/50k mark :)

  124. At 02:43 PM on 16 Aug 2007, DI Wyman wrote:

    Comment Submission Error
    Your comment submission failed for the following reasons:

    In an effort to curb malicious comment posting by abusive users, I've enabled a feature that requires a weblog commenter to wait a short amount of time before being able to post again. Please try to post your comment again in a short while. Thanks for your patience.

    DIY

  125. At 02:52 PM on 16 Aug 2007, jbagpuss wrote:

    DI

    You got that too then. I will just have to wait an extra few minutes to post my malicious comments!

  126. At 02:54 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    Please sir (that kept coming out as *sis*, wonder why?) can I stop posting now and have a rest - or a life even....?

  127. At 02:58 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Anne P. wrote:

    We must be there by now.

  128. At 03:15 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Rachel G wrote:

    How absolutely in keeping with the traditions of the blog that I cannot get in to post on the 1000th/50000th celebratory thread. 404 error. Must be just me, I fear, but dunno why?

    Anyway. Hip, hip hurrah for all of us, especially Jonnie. Now has anyone guessed what our birthday surprise is going to be?

  129. At 04:03 PM on 16 Aug 2007, nikki noodle wrote:

    Ok -

    (1) pleeeeeeease rename this thread - it wont do! Put up another real glass box!!!

    (2) we dont like twitter - its always the last to load, and doesnt update for *ages* even 1 hour,

    thanks for listening ; i feel better now!
    nik

  130. At 04:31 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Joe Palooka wrote:

    Jonnie (114) - thanks mate!

  131. At 04:52 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    I am going to the Beach on a great big borrowed computer that can download it!

  132. At 05:30 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    1. Goodness me, must have misheard a point again.

    Still, if Listen Again permits Hansard reinterpretations then Nils Desperandum.


    Is the year on year growth in value shown at the link REASONABLE?


    2. Shouldn't we e comparing averaged grammars + secondary mods with uncreamed comprehensives?

    3. The missionaries were too effective. All that blood and body of Christ stuff I expect

  133. At 05:49 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Will wrote:

    In the crime fiction part of the show:

    What was that bloke talking about, what is wrong with women writing violent crime fiction? Because they shouldn't? Because it is a betrayal?

    He will probably be suggesting they shouldn't be voting next....

  134. At 05:53 PM on 16 Aug 2007, N Jones wrote:

    So the young muslim woman with the headphones is not to be prosecuted! What a surprise!
    Contrast this with the sentence given to Geoffrey Archer for contempt of court. Ah, but then he was a middleaged white conservative voter - of course!

  135. At 05:55 PM on 16 Aug 2007, JimmyGiro wrote:

    Val McDermot got caught out, she tried to claim special licence for herself whilst denying it for others!

  136. At 06:20 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    You'll have to click on 1y (immediately above the graph) at my link to see what I'm on about at (132).

    The link, despite my efforts, goes to the first page.

    Hey, you and the BBC 6 oclock news have found someone who thinks the problem is LACK of markets! (In gist: the problem is, these debts not traded, thus no price, therefore damage not known). At which the mind boggles. You can see why they get in such a panic with experts like that.

    There is such an obvious strategy available to marketeers if the 'we don't know where the debt is' and we don't know where it is' explanation is what's gripping them that the explantation itself sounds like part of the panic.

    (Hint: The debt is at most 100 million quid. You lot have lost us and you 200 billion in Lodon alone worrying about it.)

    So panic it is!

    Which of course the subprime stuff was in the first place.

    Glad to hear some traders think some hedge funds are being very economical .... with la verite.

  137. At 06:49 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Rachel G wrote:

    Glad to hear the minister pointing out the sub-GCSE level of the stats about grammars doing better. I wish you'd considered his explanation before leading with this aspect of the results. Getting more youngsters to do A levels will bring down the progress of the average, and this will only happen in non-selective schools.

  138. At 06:57 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    mac, as far as I can understand it at all, most of what goes wrong goes wrong because people get into a tissy about it, and people being in a tissy is what makes it go wrong.

    So maybe *not* getting into a tissy about it is the least unproductive course of action?

    Me, I am planning to break open the piggy-bank and see if I can afford to buy a few bits of Rio Tinto or something, on the basis that if all the scaredy-cats are selling it cheap because they have got into a tissy, now is a good moment to take advantage.

  139. At 07:33 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    errata: (132) In 'explanations', 'we don't know how much it is' is the other half, not the repetition as posted. Sorry, must be getting into a tissy too.

    Chris, hold your nose when you buy Rio Tinto Stinks. Good luck!

    Can Eloise Twisk satisfy my vulgar curiousity? Why is there a piece of ambient music on the web with her name? Is she also a musician or has she just imspired one?

  140. At 08:05 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    mac, you've been in a tissy for at least a week.

    I deliberately chose a stinky share, just to wind you up. :-))

    My old Granny inherited some shares in South African gold mines (it's a long story) and deliberately kept one of each sort just so she could turn up every time there was a shareholders' meeting within range of where she was, and ask awkward questions about the workers' conditions and what the directors were planning to do to improve them.

  141. At 08:53 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Chris,

    Congrats to your Daughter, big ones. Maybe it ain't her dad she takes after. ;-) If you're going to give her a congratulatory present of RTZ, I'd wait awhile yet. This dead cat's got some way to fall yet. I'd disregard at least the first 'bounce'.

    Of course, I wouldn't touch any extractive industry with a bargepole or a pound note, and that includes industrialised agriculture. Moral reasons rather than profit motive. Surprisingly, some farmland is still relatively cheap, but not where there is any hint of possibility of planning permission for housing. 'Marginal' land and land 'suitable for afforestation' are both still cheap, and survivalists might well be shopping....

    Like RJD and others, I'm interested in what and where your daughter will be reading.

    Best congrats to all the kids who've come through this A-level wringer (mangle)!
    xx
    ed

  142. At 09:26 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Happy wrote:

    Well done to all especially those who attended the "Secondary Modern" schools the Conservative spokesman kept talking about

  143. At 09:51 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Jhannat Vadher wrote:

    During the PM programme today, i was irritated by the emphasis Eddie Mair placed on the juror's religion when describing her as "a muslim woman" who was listening to music on her ipod ..........."under her hijaab". This was the woman who was dismissed from jury service following the discovery that she was listening to her ipod during the murder trial. The fact that she should never have been allowed to participate in such a serious case given her apparent flippant ans apathetic attitude is another matter.
    If Eddie's comments were a deliberate attempt to provoke a response from Muslim listeners, then i have to say, it was in bad taste and unbecoming of the BBC to stoop to such a level just to cause some sensation. On the other hand, if the BBC have decided to use religion as a means of referring to all persons mentioned in news items, then this could be understandable. Would the BBC now make a point of referring to the only suspect of the Madeline McCann case or the murderers of the brave man killed in Warrington as Christians? I very much doubt it but you are free to prove me wrong.
    This type of reporting is irresponsible and only adds to the Islamaphobia that exists in British society today. BBC employees should be more concientious about what message they are sending out to listeners, afterall, the BBC are The Standard and should always be mindful of this when conveying and making the news. I am very disappointed.

  144. At 09:56 PM on 16 Aug 2007, mac wrote:

    Chris 140. No, thats me happy. I've always seen capitalism as a spectator sport. At the moment its no bead and the slaves seem to have some sort of chance at the circuses.

    Sadly, Ed 141, I think its all but over - they've factored in every adverse possibility except equality and socialism and still left themselves 10 percent up on the year.

  145. At 10:37 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Jhannat Vadher (143),

    I agree. It's a sad fact that such descriptors are used. We rarely hear someone describes as "Jewish" or "Christian", or, come to it, "Buddhist", etc., but often as "Muslim" or "Islamic".

    It would have been sufficient to refer to the lady in question as having concealed her MP3 device in her headdress, or even "Hijab". In the latter case, to describe her as "Muslim" is 'redundant' and gratuitous.

    Whatever her faith, or lack of one, she seems to have been definitely in contempt of the court, and it was right to dismiss her.

    I'm glad you felt moved to comment.

    Assalaam 'alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuhu.


    ed

  146. At 11:00 PM on 16 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Jhannat Vadher @143, The point is that if she had *not* been a Muslim she would not have been allowed to wear in a court of law a garment that so obscured her head as to make it possible for the her to sit listening to music instead of to the evidence being presented. If it had been a hoodie, she would have been told to take it off; because she claimed it as a religious privilege, she wasn't told to take it off, and then she abused that privilege. I'm sorry, but in this case the religion *is*, quite precisely, the point.

    I think this was sufficiently important to merit the emphasis given to it by Mr. Mair: if someone is going to behave in this way, it *ought* to be noted as abuse of religious privilege, and should be as offensive to her co-religionists as it is to anyone else who wants the defendant in a court of law to get a fair trial.

  147. At 08:19 AM on 17 Aug 2007, Paul wrote:

    How do you define dynamic?

    Does Chris Evans report on news and current affairs?

    Isn't quality more important than quantity?

    Jhannet Vadher (143) "If Eddie's comments were a deliberate attempt to provoke a response from Muslim listeners...". I don't think stating that a person is a Muslim ought to be controversial in any context. However, you'll notice that when Eddie Mair mentions Jews in a skewed way they don't respond. Why? I have it on good authority that they stopped listening because of the bias.

  148. At 09:17 AM on 17 Aug 2007, witchiwoman wrote:

    Before I forget - what was that male writer talking about? Women shouldn't write graphically about violence or murder?? What?? Its like the Bob Stewart thing all over again!

  149. At 12:49 PM on 17 Aug 2007, Vyle Hernia wrote:

    Warm congratulations to Chris Ghoti and daughter. Oxford is a pleasant place, but beware of morose men in Mk II J*gs.

    I'd also like to offer my commiserations to those who had disappointing results and are having to re-think their plans.

  150. At 01:51 PM on 17 Aug 2007, Chris Ghoti wrote:

    Paul @ 147 -- gor you dunnarf generalise, do you?

    "The Jews" haven't done anything, you know. *Some* Jews may have stopped listening to PM because they perceived a bias, but I don't think any of *my* family have. You speak for yourself all you like, but don't you go speaking for my-cousin-the-Rabbi, if you don't mind, 'cos she's perfectly capable of speaking for herself. (Oy, is she ever?)

  151. At 02:14 PM on 17 Aug 2007, Paul wrote:

    I think that if any Jews use this site on a regular basis they would have certainly commented on the anti-semitic vile discussion which took place on the glass box Friday 27th July, posts 19-20-21-23-24-28-31.

    As I said in an earlier post. A bigot is a bigot regardless of how polite they may appear.
    I also have to add hypocrisy to that statement.

  152. At 02:28 PM on 17 Aug 2007, Paul wrote:

    The Daily Telegraph reported on the year long internal report commissioned by the BBC which found BIAS within the corporation.

    A BBC spokeswoman said. "This report is about looking forward and how we are going to face the challenges of impartiality in the modern world".

    Why should impartiality be a challenge?

    Hardly a perceived bias.

  153. At 02:40 AM on 18 Aug 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    PUSH!
    PUSH
    PUSH!
    xx
    ed

  154. At 07:07 PM on 18 Aug 2007, Penrose Feast wrote:

    "Ooff!"

    Did I make it in time........?

    :¬)

  155. At 07:50 AM on 01 Sep 2007, Paul wrote:

    Encouraging to see the self-appointed, so-called intelligencia contributing well informed arguments.

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