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Under the smoking entry there has been

Eddie Mair | 10:23 UK time, Thursday, 30 November 2006

a spirited debate not only about smoking (thank you) but also the idea of a regular new Beach and what it should be called.

If you're new to our Blog, you should know that, as is often the case, its contributors decided on something and we followed - to The Beach - a beautiful place where wierd and wonderful things happen and conversation and activity ranges over the entire range of human capability, and sometimes beyond. Trouble is - the Beach can get so busy, it can sink under its own weight, spoiling everyone's enjoyment.

A new beach was created, but it too ultimately suffered. So I've decided - or rather the froggers decided - that we need a "This Week's Beach", started every Monday. That will happen. In fact, you know what? It will happen sooner than that for this week only. Because, just as recently we celebrated TEN THOUSAND comments to this Blog - I am about to pass the milestone of 200 posts. This, I think, is 197 or 198. In any case, I'll make number 200, the very first This Week's Beach, and then start a new one on Monday. Off to find an amusing sound clip for you...


  1. At 10:36 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    Thank you Mr Ambassador - you're spoiling us. Do have one of these curious round chocolates.

  2. At 10:44 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Perhaps you smoked something that led you to spell ‘weird’ in a wierd way. Am I the first to spot this? Surely not the last.

    P.S. Why a beach? Why not a shed?
    (Why a duck?)

  3. At 10:50 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    I'm jumping up and down with excitement, Eddie!

    New Beach each week

    200 Posts

    Eddie getting excited about the Beach

    Sound Clips

    ... and all those kind words about the froggers.

    Eddie, did you sleep last night? Were you so excited, what with the reindeers (Santa can't be far behind when you've just seen a reindeer, can he?), the Beach,
    'Burma', jousting with ASH, etc., etc.......

    Gosh, I wish I was you, Eddie! Your life is so, so exciting!

  4. At 10:58 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Actually, Eddie, I think the accolade goes to gossipmistress who, on Woody, posting 116, suggested a new beach every week.

    Admin Annie, however, won the accolade for being the inspiration for the Book Club. So she's a winner already and, I hope, won't feel miffed at my pointing the above out.

    But 'twas gossipmistress - whoever that may be (and no, I don't know. I suppose it could be an alias for Admin Annie?).

  5. At 11:02 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Sara wrote:

    Dear Eddie, thank you. I'm looking forward to the new Beach and I'm sure I speak for all us froggers in saying that the success of this fascinating blog is largely down to you and the way you so warmly draw us all into the world of PM.

    I hope you didn't miss my comments on smoking at the end of the last (And This Just In) thread. The anti-smoking lobby have had it all their own way and are really getting on my nerves now. Can we please talk about something else?

    I did enjoy yesterday's PM - I had to speed off early in the car to make an urgent delivery and so caught every interesting minute of the prog, for a change!

  6. At 11:02 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Eddie Mair wrote:

    It's wierd, isn't it?

  7. At 11:02 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Dr. H

    Sheds are traditionally for blokes. And they're confined spaces. Beaches don't have walls. Ducks are birds. Wierd is weird ..... Oh, I'm starting to lose it!

  8. At 11:12 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    It’s rhetorical, isn’t it?

  9. At 11:20 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Rufus T. Firefly wrote:


    How about a beach shed (hut)?

    BTW, I noticed the weird thing too. Yet wonderful is right.

  10. At 11:24 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Stephen, Leader of STROP wrote:


    The rule is

    I before E except after Cwhen the sound is EE
  11. At 11:29 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Lee Vitout wrote:

    PHOTOS: Sarah and Manveen both look nice under the Reindeer.

  12. At 11:31 AM on 30 Nov 2006, jonnie wrote:


    Try to keep calm -- it's ONLY a beach at the end of the day.

    For those that would like to here the PM Theme tune it's on BBC PM History site


  13. At 11:37 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Rosalind wrote:

    I know it isn't PM, but on Woman's Hour there was an indignant man who, when arguing for a levelling up of educational exams for boys, said that gender neutral topics for essays was preferential for girls. I didn't express that very well.

    Poor man, he was so indignant about boys that he couldn't get his thoughts right!

    Couldn't we have a very posh shed on the beach? And a beach hut too of course.

  14. At 11:37 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Joe Palooka wrote:

    It's Eddei, isn't it?

  15. At 11:38 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Kate O'Mara wrote:


    What's the weather going to be like on "This weeks beach"?

  16. At 11:39 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:


    But 'weird' is an exception.

    "We are weird"

    Sorry, but it's true!

  17. At 11:42 AM on 30 Nov 2006, LadyPen (formerly Lady Penelope) wrote:

    Bravo Eric. You da MAN!

    And Sara (5) - I put this:

    If invited, I shall join MaryMary and EdIgle behind the appropriately designated rock so's not to contaminate anyone else's finer feelings. We can there Hatch Plots.

    I'll be the tall gorgeous unsmelly blonde with the posh-tottie voice.

    (I know it's a disgusting habit and wouldn't force it on anyone and my children moan at me a lot. But I try to be considerate and, if you find me smelly, you can always move further away and talk louder . . .)

    Off now to trawl through all the other threads I've got behind on. I shall be sure to maintain a discreet distance.

    somewhere for you but, as you're on this thread now and I can't remember where you were before, I'm putting it here as well. So you may see it twice and if so worry that you've got double vision but you haven't.


  18. At 11:43 AM on 30 Nov 2006, member of the public. wrote:


    I'd have a word with Dr Hackenbush about passing milestones. They can be nasty.

  19. At 11:48 AM on 30 Nov 2006, jonnie wrote:


    Re: Lisa and spelling your name.

    Really sorry but I always thought is was with two s's


  20. At 11:48 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Lee: [Oh, be still my beating heart! So long since we heard from you!]

    Did you notice how nicely Sarah, Manveen, and the reindeer co-ordinate? D'you think they planned it (you know, surreptitious phone calls the night before: "I'll be wearing my best pink harness, what will you wear?" etc. etc.)?

    I wonder what the Reindeer was called? Looks like a Victoria to me (no, not that one! the queenly one ...) or Amelia, perhaps?

  21. At 11:57 AM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    As the bloggages build up (we've noticed!) you may like to check this out.

    Fiona's comment re Something Special led me to it. It's such fun and whiles away the odd few minutes while Moderator/Eddie's brain(s) get into gear ....


    Go on! You know you want to .....

  22. At 12:01 PM on 30 Nov 2006, LadyPen (formerly Lady Penelope) wrote:

    BTW Eric - a super sound clip would be SeaGreen reading the lunchtime news one day last week when she had to say the name of the Native American Chief representing his people when HM Queen unveiled the memorial to one of his tribe's ancestors who'd died in the UK. I'm sure she was trying not to laugh. (No disrespect intended to any Native American froggers who may be watching . . .)

    Other newsreaders saying it are available, too, presumably - perhaps a montage along the lines of the 'Cr*p, c*ap, cra*' one??


  23. At 12:10 PM on 30 Nov 2006, RobbieJohnDo wrote:

    WEIRD it may be but in any event I’m not sure that you can put all that much weight behind this “I before e except after c” business. Spelling is not a science and sometimes neither is correct, albeit not too often, and that’s about the height of it. I know that misspelling in today’s society is enough to give some people a seizure. As far as there being a spelling deity I will retain my atheism. I’m away to have some caffeine with my neighbour so can we draw a veil over it?

  24. At 12:18 PM on 30 Nov 2006, RobbieJohnDo wrote:


    If that soundclip was the one with "bosom" in it, I want to hear it too!

  25. At 12:29 PM on 30 Nov 2006, LadyPen (formerly Lady Penelope) wrote:

    Yes RobbieJohn - that's the one :-)

  26. At 12:33 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Thanks to all those who felt that my earlier entry needed a response. Sheds are fine with me, although I don’t have one. I don’t have a beach, either. But (13) what did I do?

    Now, here is a little peninsula, and, eh, here is a viaduct leading over to the mainland.

    Why a duck?

  27. At 12:37 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Somewhere, a comment I made on the 'wierd' bit got lost.

    To recap, then:

    'weird' is a spelling exception to the normal rule.

    You're supposed to remember it with something like:

    "We are weird".

    Strange how true that sounds on this Blog, isn't it?

  28. At 12:38 PM on 30 Nov 2006, HelenSparkles wrote:

    I think we'll only require one oil rig though, and why was Lissa working from home, and how does Eddie find time to keep up with us as well as current affairs? All rhetorical!

  29. At 02:22 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Anne P. wrote:

    Jonnie (12) - think I like the 1984 version best.

    But when did the programme switch from two presenters to just one? Was it some kind of BBC efficiency drive? Of course we all know Lord Mair is worth two of most other presenters (creep, creep).

  30. At 02:47 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Member of the Public (18) - LOL!

    Doc (26), Why do you ask 'Why a duck?' ?

  31. At 03:11 PM on 30 Nov 2006, HelenSparkles wrote:

    I don't remember when PM became one presenter, but I do remember wondering who was was going manage it all themselves, now I coudn't imagine it any other way.

  32. At 03:25 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Jonnie wrote:

    Re: Anne,

    Not sure when PM shifted from a double headed programme.

    Eddie will know ?

  33. At 04:31 PM on 30 Nov 2006, gossipmistress wrote:

    Big Sis (4) No I'm not an alias of Admin Annie, she makes much more intelligent and well-read comments than I do.....

    (Thank you for credit re monday beach thingy also, I hope it works out or I will have to swim out to sea like Reggie Perrin and re-emerge as a new alias!)

  34. At 04:43 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    (30) Aperitif
    Maybe I shouldn’t have started the Why a duck? business - although it wasn’t me. If anyone has already substituted Hackenbush for Hammer they understand this.

  35. At 05:01 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Nigel Jervis wrote:

    When is Phoe (or Fee) returning from maternity leave? Her double act with Eddie promoting Broadcasting House was legendary. Much like JY and Terry Wogan used to be like on Radio 2 (why doesn't irony translate well to posted comments?). Can't she be co-opted onto PM to return to a two headed presentation format?

  36. At 05:10 PM on 30 Nov 2006, admin annie wrote:

    well thank you kindly gossipmistress (at 33 currently) although I wouldn't have put it like that myself.

  37. At 05:44 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Jason Good wrote:

    Nigel (35) - giving rise to a new slogan... "PM - the beast with two backs."

  38. At 06:00 PM on 30 Nov 2006, HelenSparkles wrote:

    I loved the Fi/Eddie exchanges, but at one point I wouldn't have been surprised if he was the father of her child!

  39. At 06:07 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Doc, I'm still flummoxed, but I don't mind if you don't...

    My favourite joke:
    What's the differene between a duck?
    One of its legs is both the same.

    Anyne who thought they might know me can be certain that I am that Aperitif now...

  40. At 06:37 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    HelenSparkles (37),

    You've just made me realise something about myself and, oh the shame:

    I've never been keen on Fig Lover - no active dislike just a bit unimpressed - but I could never put my finger on why... pure jealousy, of course, becasue not only did she flirt with Eddie, he flirted right back. Fancy me not even realisng how that had impacted upon me until I read your post just now! Of course, it doesn't matter any more - Eric has been replaced in my affections by Lissa's cat. (Pets are much less bother than blokes anyway...)

    I'm off to say three Hail Mary-s as penance now...

  41. At 09:31 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    I posted something in response to HelenSparkles' 37, about Eddie and Fig Lover flirting - and me being jealous until I transfererd my affections to Lissa's cat. Surely that hasn't offended anyone? (Not so much as the flirting bothered me anyway...)

  42. At 09:39 PM on 30 Nov 2006, eddie mair wrote:

    Um in answer to a much earlier question...and I honestly couldn't find the original so forgive me for the lack of reference...PM became single presenter in November 2003. It was after we killed Clare English and buried her in the Blue Peter garden, under some Parma ham.

  43. At 10:23 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Jason (37) Naughty!

    Eric (41) What are you doing here so late? Thanks for finally telling us about the Parma Ham incident. Does rotting Parma Ham disguise the small of rotting human flesh or was there a better reason for its use? Will you ask Lissa if I can have her cat purrlease?

  44. At 10:39 PM on 30 Nov 2006, Valery P wrote:

    I don't think I'd be entirely wrong in suggesting that eddie mair isn't Eddie Mair. Don't you think? If he isn't, then perhaps they could present PM together?

  45. At 11:13 PM on 30 Nov 2006, RobbieJohnDo wrote:

    Well spotted Val P

  46. At 12:01 AM on 01 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Hmm, I thought there was something fishy about that Parma Ham tale...

  47. At 12:14 AM on 01 Dec 2006, Valery P wrote:

    It's happened before on other posts, haven't you noticed - it's a different sense of humour?
    Off to bed now, night Night Owls, I'm glad today's over.

  48. At 08:22 AM on 01 Dec 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Appy(46):Parma Ham fishy? That's the last thing I'd expect ham to smell like!

    Did anyone hear John H this morning trying to talk up the Today messageboard? I think they're getting jealous of Eddies' success!

  49. At 10:38 AM on 01 Dec 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Oh ye of little faith!

    I, for one, am sure that was, indeed, Eddie commenting on the Incident of the Parma Ham (otherwise known as "Whatever happened to Clare English?")

    And to suspect it could be another! And to somehow suggest ("it's a different sense of humour") the humour was not up to Eddie's usual standard .... I AM AGHAST!

    Eddie: I know you love these pranks and I, at least, have faith in you at every level, and shall return to the present to say as much.

    BTW, have copied Eddie's posting above fo the Blog History - It's a classic!

  50. At 11:33 AM on 01 Dec 2006, HelenSparkles wrote:

    Has Eddie really got an impersonator? Shock reigns, but I am secretly pleased that he wasn’t really here morning, afternoon & evening; he’s a young man & should be getting out more! Valerie P is officially very clever for spotting it.

    Aperitif (40) & (41) be absolved from shame, but I hope Eddie can cope with you transferring your affections to the cat! Am sure nobody was offended, the blog was just a bit sluggish perhaps.

    Fearless (48) ha, ha, John H would just be addressing issues of missing eggcups anyway. Can’t see a beach occurring or any clever silliness generally.

  51. At 12:12 PM on 01 Dec 2006, Valery P wrote:

    HelenSparkly, blush, 'twere naught but a little thing.

  52. At 01:35 PM on 01 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    For a moment I thought you all meant our very own John H, and was worried he'd defected to an inferior programme. Where is he anyway?

  53. At 04:20 PM on 01 Dec 2006, Fifi wrote:

    The trouble with this time of year is, it gets dark so early.

    So, where does one stand with regard to yard-arm and sun???

  54. At 05:02 PM on 01 Dec 2006, Valery P wrote:

    Alwayas at the right angle I think Fifi :o)

  55. At 05:46 PM on 01 Dec 2006, Aunt Dahlia wrote:

    I would wish that the Parma ham was an Italian thespian.

  56. At 05:39 PM on 03 Dec 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh Aunt Dahlia, very good, very good indeed.

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