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Eddie Mair | 16:44 UK time, Friday, 6 October 2006

minutes to go.

There's still some discussion in the office about what ourlead story should be. And Becky's report may not be ready. And we're not sure about the opening.

This is quite normal.


  1. At 04:55 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Five minutes to go. Eddie's hiding in the cupboard. Lissa's playing with the blog. Rupert's - Hey, where is Rupert?

    Should be a great programme!

  2. At 05:05 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Whist wrote:

    wot - no posts?


  3. At 05:11 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Or is it a case where you had this all planned out this morning in true "Dr Evil" fashion? You knew the Friday after conference season is always quiet, so there'd be a chance that you would have to wing the first item. So, you planned that you would blog just 15 minutes before starting transmission.
    "Aha!" you thought. "I can give the blog the title Fifteen and then post fourteen silly blogs before hand to try and get everyone so riled up before 5pm that they boycott the first 15 minutes,. That would let us get away with a quarter hour of static, and no-one would notice!"

    Eric Dimbleby: a true evil genius

  4. At 05:19 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Whisht wrote:

    uh oh - thought it was unlikely - now my earlier post wil be irrelevant.

    hey ho, just admire the effort (wos getting nostaligic with all this 1983 nonsense)

  5. At 05:42 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Funnily enough I missed the first fifteen minutes anyway, because I went to the nearest pharamacy to buy a certain brand of lemony cold and flu relief powder.

    Now I am going to eat cake - I have a sweet tooth due to my cold.

    Have I mentioned that I have a cold?

    He's noticed I'm back and he's trying to shake me off again.

  6. At 05:58 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Well done, Eddie.

    You made it through the programme without any of your listeners knowing what us bloggers know - Eddie the wonder blog.

    Now go and have a good weekend. We'll all be back on Monday.

  7. At 06:27 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh Whisht! I just realised - its' a chad!

    It had been perplexing me for some time.

    Very clever - although, of course, you're right: makes no sense now.


  8. At 07:11 PM on 06 Oct 2006, John H. wrote:

    One of the really great things about this frog is that you get exposed to all sorts of stuff you might not otherwise. In Val P's case, it was endless slips in spelling and grammar and, in the majority of cases, resisting the urge to correct.

    Apparently, in my case, it is the above conversation between Drinks and Whisht. What? Who? How? Ah, no it doesn't matter - it's good just to know it exists.

    Gorra say, though, that Fearless' expression of Eric's plan made me laugh. This is how conspiracy theories are born. I bow before you.

  9. At 07:40 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Glad to have brought a smile to your face, John H. :)

    Actually, I'm not so certain it was all Eddies' idea. I think he just called EvilPlansRUs. They've even got a telephone ordering service, now...

    "Thank you for choosing EvilPlansRUs, May I take your order?"

    "Yes, I'm planning on ignoring my responsibilities to the nations broadcaster by not arranging anything for the first 15 minutes of an hour long broadcast. What do you suggest?"

    "Is that all? I only ask because we're doing a special this week on World Domination. We even throw in an incredible henchman death plot, and a couple of excellent one-liners for use if any super-spy should try to stop you."

    "hmmmm, sounds interesting. Will it help me with my current predicament?"

    "Not really, unless you can take over at least most of the UK before 4pm.."

    "Okay, I'll leave the total domination until next week. Even Brian Perkins can't take over the UK in under a day. Plus Lissa, Sequin, and Seagreen will want to be a part of any plan to take over the world..."

    "In that case, sir, can I suggest driving the audience potty by blogging every 5 minutes until they all walk away in disgust. Then you'll have no problems for at least 15 inutes of your show"

    "Excellent (said in a C Montgomery Burns voice)"....

  10. At 08:19 PM on 06 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    John H - I don't blame you - I dunno how Aperitif got it - I'd never have if someone else had done it.

    I'll try again with more care... nah... darn, shame i can't make some characters bigger.... blooming heck it looks worse... guess you're just gonna have to think laterally....


    wot - no guesses?

  11. At 08:52 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Whisht, it doesn't look worse - it looks exactly the same!

    btw, how's that potential romance that you don't want to talk about going? (Vicarious excitement required thsi weekend folks).

  12. At 09:27 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    PS, I am most entertained by your no.9 FF.

  13. At 09:39 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    re 12:)) I just document what I overheard....

  14. At 10:14 PM on 06 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    Aperitif, yes - my extra spaces were ignored (and once-upon-a-time i could 'do' HTML and shoulda guessed this)

    as for the lack of my love life... are you trying to make me feel bad??!!??

    no, I know you're not, but when you hear that you're a "great guy", you know the game is up....

  15. At 11:01 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh Whisht, are you sure it was that kind of "You're a great guy"? Well, if she can't see how fabulous you are then she's not worthy of you, you know?

    Sorry for bringing it up. Share of my night cap help any?

  16. At 11:24 PM on 06 Oct 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Where can we buy your advice column, A?

  17. At 11:37 PM on 06 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    he he - its fine! But thanks for the kind words.

    y'know, I am actually a good guy (most people who know me say so) and I'm old enough now to be (moderately) comfortable with that. But if ya don't fancy someone then... y'know. You don't fancy them. quite simple.

    Important thing is to keep your friends. Paraphrasing Alan De Boton parahrasing a philosopher (which?) the things you need are shelter, food, and friends.
    With some good cheese from time to time.

  18. At 11:53 PM on 06 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    now then, none* of you followed me to the poet Cameron's website webcameron.com, but seems quite a few other journos/ stray wanderers did!

    this guy's probably had his minutes of fame now, and unfortunately it was less than Warhol imagined. A pity cos i'm sure he's a nice bloke, but then again its based upon the fame of a guy who's reinventing himself quicker than a fading model, so.... whaddya expect?

    Politics here: here and poetry here

    or was that...?

    * actually - was it Val who did but realised that life's too short?

  19. At 12:05 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Ah, you're as wise as Valery's walls are thick :)

  20. At 12:20 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    I went for a quick look when you posted the link, but I really don't need to be encouraged into yet more paces to fritter away my time.

  21. At 12:59 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    Hello all . . . it says 'Remember me' and I ticked the box but nobody did . . .

    But hey.

    You guys are such good value. It takes me ages - between writing the business plan, feeding the kids and their friends ("Is it all right if Angus and Arthur and Scott come and eat here, Mummy?". 'Mummy' is the clincher. I'd have died rather than call my mother 'Mummy' at her age (14). Discuss.), clearing up the catsick and defending my right not to do the washing if I don't feel like it - to think of something clever to say, and by the time I have someone's already posted it.

    StainlessCat, AnnaC, Valery, the various Johns, STROPStephen, FrancesO and Dr Hackenbush are beginning to feel like neighbours. The frisson between FF and Appy is juddering through my body as I speak (has Valery sent her rockwhacker back to the hire shop, or has she lent it out?). What Eddie was up to this afternoon with his multiblogs heaven only knows.

    When I grow up I shall find this kind of thing a complete waste of time. In the meanwhile, it's a blast . . .

    Given that Eddie's become so adept with the technology (my postcards don't flicker, by the way), and Lissa's obviously underemployed as only the editor of PM, WATO and WTW - and probably moonlighting as one of the presenters on The Mint - it shouldn't be TOO much trouble for either, both or all of them to set up a PM chatroom, should it? Then we could just all hang out all day and lob the odd amusing comment into the mix, and . . . well, just chill.

    I think Eddie was playing with us today. I may have to transfer my allegiance to Jonothan Ross.

    sb19 and I am NOT going (honestly I'm not) to check all the latest entries on the millions of other blogs under PM's name. They are but harengs rouges, designed to put us off the scent of what is Really Going On.

    Lord Mair - you have been rumbled . . .

  22. At 01:27 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Mr. I. Kew wrote:

    sb 22

    "Another weekend
    Blessed by a strapline again;
    Topical, autumn"

  23. At 01:56 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    Autumn. The wind howls
    and the moon lies
    Huge, it
    And I sing.

  24. At 02:24 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Lady Penelope wrote:

    Sorry, guys - I hate those people who post their 'poetry' on any available forum. Something just made me do it.

    It won't happen again.

  25. At 08:17 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Welcome back, Lady P! I think we can allow the occasional poem. After all, that's what makes this frog unique: we're making it into our own (under the benevolent gaze of Lissa the BlogQueen).

    Saying "Mommy" at 14? Well, i definitely gave up on that before that age, but if she's comfortable with it, why not?

    Re 17: Hey Whisht, you have my sympathies. I know exactly what the "good/nice guy" thing is like. If it weren't 8:15am, I'd offer to buy you a beer, mate. I'll raise one tonight in support instead

  26. At 10:27 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Whisht - you called yourself 'whist' in your first post (or am I getting short-sighted?)

    Is this a 'drive' to get a new identity?

    Or an attempt to prove that you're a card?

  27. At 11:06 AM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Tee hee Frances (26)!

    Whisht, Fearless, just a thought, but at least a girl who does that is nice and being honest with you. I understand that there are men out there who just do the "don't bother to call and she'll work it out" thing, which is unforgivable. (This is all a bit straight-centric, I realise). Although I must add quickly that I just know neither of you guys would do that.

    The worst of the cold is past, I believe, if anyone is interested. Still going to spend the day in my dressing gown doing a bit of work (might as well) and pottering about the house, but I may venture out this evening, to somewhere warm and relaxing.

    Cocktails reorganised for next week. If any of you want to join us you are quite welcome!

  28. At 12:27 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Charles Hatton wrote:

    My head is the size of an overripe pumpkin since Eddie read my email out on PM last night. I may be crushed under the weight of it like Whiley Coyote under an Acme Super-Bolder. Hopefully the folk in the corridors of power were sufficiently galvanized by it to wander back to their desks of power and actually do some work!

    Whisht – I saw your very interesting photos on that flicky thing. Perhaps we should all do the same – Lady P and her teapot radio, Fearless and his Electronic Desk, Valery and her red pen, Aperitif and her cocktail shaker, Dr Hackenbush and his stethoscope, Stephen and his Pluto garden … etc, etc, etc

  29. At 01:09 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    OOh, Whisht, just took the lead from Charles and had a look at your photos - all 145 of them. Lovely! Glad the horrid fog didn't get you!

  30. At 01:19 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Annasee wrote:

    How nice to hear from you again Lady Pen.(21) I know what you mean about the cat sick, not to mention the family meal routine. Today the cat had left one of his extra- special -furballs- encased -in -expensive -cat-food on an old towel where he sleeps. Since he (extremely fluffy cat) does this on an almost-daily basis, I now don't throw out the towel, just cut off the offending bit & put the rest back on his bed. I like to think it's these little time & energy-saving tricks that have made me into the superhousewife I am today... ( apart from my ironing, naturally). Do share any similar hints you may have.
    Whisht (18) I'm ashamed to admit I also looked at David Cameron's "I can talk & wash pots- call me Superdad" speech after you gave the link. Like someone else I thought life is really too short & I'm skiving enough just following the PM meanderings through the day. No more!
    Apart from... John's blog (John W ? apologies if I've got the wrong one)- which I thought was marvellous. Very Alan Bennet. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Keep at it.

  31. At 01:20 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Rufus A Bairzarce wrote:


    Charles H - 28

    I heard your thoughts last evening and felt proud to have shared this space with you.
    That pumpkin business will ensure that your popularity will continue at least until Hallowe'en.

    I feel that I'd have my emails read out, too, if I followed your example of adopting a nom-de-plume.

  32. At 01:27 PM on 07 Oct 2006, valery pedant wrote:

    Appy - Winning - thanks for the raffle ticket info, I'll bear it in mind. I'd tell you what the competition is, but I can't afford for all you successful types to dash over there and enter since that would lessen my chances of winning a weekend in London/Leeds/Edinburgh. Hmmm, now which shall I choose as my prize? I'm THAT confident..Btw, well done on having such fast colds, mine used to linger and linger. I say used to, but probably shouldn't with the holiday imminent - tempting providence or summat.

    Frances 0 - o that's good, very good.

    Lady P - Business Plan? - do tell? I do business plans (note plural) as a job of work (well, that's part of it anyway). You do right to be suspicious of "Mummy" as a term of address , in my experience it immediately precedes wheedling, and then where are you?

    Wondering if Anne's on the plane yet?

    Aw, Charles, I missed your moment of fame - what was it about?

  33. At 01:39 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Annasee wrote:

    Whisht (18) I'd forgotten I looked at the poet Cameron's website too. Australian, huh? Spookily I've got an Australian conductor for the concert today. I wonder if they know each other. More than likely.
    Or perhaps anne could meet up with him during her visit to Oz this week. Stranger things have happened. During a trip to NZ a few years ago, my husband stepped backwards in front of a museum exhibit & collided with the man behind him. The man apologised(being English) though it wasn't his fault. Then realised he was my husband's cousin, who lives near Southampton, but was also on a trip to NZ, unknown to us. Chances of that happening?

  34. At 01:55 PM on 07 Oct 2006, John W wrote:

    Hi all,

    Been very busy in the last few days. Hardly time to draw breath.

    Feedback (yesterday or Sunday evening) discussed Shaun Ley's "In the [Sh/C] ity " comment, so if you want to hear it in full, you have another chance at ~ 20:20 Sunday. I notice the PM team did not rush that out as a new audio clip.

    FF(25), yes, I too am in the same boat. Never mind the PM cocktails, looks like an evening drowning sorrows. If not, I'll have a Churchill Martini: pour the gin, glance at the Vermouth bottle, and "chin chin !" Meanwhile Aper could go for hot toddy (purely medicinal, of course)

  35. At 02:25 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Well, after following Appy and Charles and looking at whishts' photos (all very nice!) I thought I'd finally start loading mine up to Flickr. I've already got them on Yahoo, but that's not so conducive to sharing, I've noticed...

    I've only just started with the first batch, but over the next few months you should get to see some places I advise everyone to visit. Enjoy!

    (Link is in my moniker...)

  36. At 02:51 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Sara wrote:

    Hello froggies - I do try to keep up with you all but there are not enough hours in the day.

    Annasee's coincidence (33) reminded me of a time when we lived in Rotterdam and British TV, which came (illegally) by way of a dish on the Medical Centre, kept losing the signal in less than ideal weather. So we didn't watch it that often, although the Brits would all phone each other up to let us know when the weather was good and telly was on. Once I was watching Chariots of Fire when clouds gathered (real ones) twenty mins before the end and I was left with the test card to watch. Never did see the end. Anyway, one Sunday lunchtime it was sunny so we switched on to see if the BBC News was on and lo and behold! there was my brother in law acting as a spokesman for the London Hospital, chatting about how all the London hospitals were ready for any crisis. It's the only time he was ever on TV (I think) and we were abroad, hardly ever able to watch and with no idea he would be on screen.

    All seems a long time ago now. Wish I was younger than Julia Roberts. Btw Appy I have a feeling you may have been poorly. Hope you're better now.

  37. At 02:56 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    OK Fearless, I've had a little look, and they're very nice too. Well done.

    I shan't be putting mine up - I will shrivel up and die from the guilt if I spend time doing that. (Besides, I am officially (as in, I've told myself) "doing some work" this afternoon to make up for not getting very far due to feeling rough yesterday. Hmm, but people* keep phoning to invite me to things which is lovely but , no, I'll stay here with m'tissues for now).

    *OK, two invites, but that's plural innit?

  38. At 03:04 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Sara wrote:

    Gosh, I love FF's photos. How do I get to see Whisht's?

    But now I must get on with writing the local mag or I will miss my deadline.

  39. At 03:17 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Whisht, I know! I know! Does it start with the same two letters as my name? Is it very, very relevant to what we're doing?????

    Dp I win the Gordon Brown beermat?

  40. At 03:27 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Sara, it's just a cold but I've whinged a lot. Thank you for your kind words.

    I just searched for "Whisht" on the flicker site, btw.

    Frances, I don't understand your 39. I know it's not addressed to me but still, any chance you'd remind me what Whisht's question was? I can't seem to find it.

  41. At 04:03 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Sara wrote:

    Thanks, Appy - I found Whishts' photos - all very interesting. Much more interesting than my mag, in fact .....

  42. At 04:54 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Rufus A B,

    I have addressed your suppostion - and a little more besides - on "Will it fit?"

    Your poker face is impressive, dear chap.

  43. At 05:10 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    It was an interesting graphic (no 2), Appy. Hope whisht doesn't croak before responding.

    Here, have a hanky and a toddy - sun's just tickling at the yardarm

  44. At 05:33 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Hi Frances,

    I've had another look at number 2 and have nothing to add to my earlier response to it (7). it's repeated at 10, but, as I said, it looks just the same, so either I'm being really thick (and I blame the germs) or you can see a question there that I can't see. I thought you were trying to hint at a "frog" (first two letters; hint at frogging) but, even if that's the answer, I dunno what the question is, so I'm still none the wiser.

    Sorry, brain addled. Thanks for the hankies and the wee nip - probably a very good idea!

  45. At 05:52 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Well, yes, drinksie, that was my answer: frogging.

    You know, that braid stuff ships' captains wear on their cuffs

  46. At 06:28 PM on 07 Oct 2006, John W wrote:


    re your comment on my blog, the previous one is there, preserved for all to see...

    But your comment about limbo (somewhere on this mulitblog) - I thought that was a catholic thing, as in where the unbaptised went. But then I'm not catholic, what would I know.

  47. At 06:54 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Hello John (46), well that's good to know (or then again, is it???)

    Re limbo, yes, so I've heard in recent years. I just don't remember it ever being mentioned when I was at school - lots of heaven/hell and purgatory but no limbo. I seem to recall that we all thought, as good little children, we would go to heaven, but would probably have to endure a spell in purgatory first due to the stain of sin and all that.

    Is it any wonder I'm a committed agnostic and not supportive at all of organised religion these days?

  48. At 07:49 PM on 07 Oct 2006, John W wrote:

    Aperitif (47),

    Depends if you want it known that you consort with old fogies or not...& what will Fearless think?

    As I thought, it was the duty of every catholic who came across a new-born baby to baptise it to prevent the chance of it going to limbo... but there again, as I said before...

    Annasee (33), that sort of chance is actually smaller than you might expect. Two members of a group I'm involved with bumped into each other at Istanbul station - and both were skiving off that week. I forget the arguement, may have to resort to proof by gesticulation ("a handwaving arguement").

    I've come across loads of NZ classical musicians, (probably the most famous one relivent to this blog is non other than Brian Perkins (double bass)) but I cannot think of one Australian. No doubt will be corrected...

    And in general, I certainly think the Haikus that greet the unexpected weekend-strap lines are at least relivent and amusing, so I disagree with Lady P (but welcome back) about poetry. Not that you would catch me writing any, taking, for the most part, the Wodehouse line on this sort of bilge.

  49. At 08:51 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Monkey wrote:

    Dr Hackenbush, I know what you used 2 B called.

  50. At 11:21 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    Good for you. So do I, and others besides.

    Well, gang, I’m older and wiser today. One of the above...

  51. At 11:28 PM on 07 Oct 2006, Annasee wrote:

    John (48) no I can't think of any either! Except I know 2 Oz conductors ( in this country) but you can't really call conductors Musicians - what sound do they make? I spent rehearsal wondering if today's one has started dyeing his hair. I'm SURE it was suspiciously darker & more uniform in colour than last time I saw him. And I'm sure he just thought I was gazing at him with rapt attention for hours on end...
    I've missed all this business about photos. What are we looking at & where? Life is happening around me & I'm missing it!

  52. At 01:13 AM on 08 Oct 2006, Rufus A B wrote:


    Aperitif, re 42,

    Thanks for the calling card.
    We can get into difficulties with unfamiliar words, especially when they are names. I encountered someone surnamed Onions who pronounced it O-nigh-uns. I wonder whether that was just to confuse me, as I never again met that affectation.

    A check on Google for your reference produced 4 pages worth. You must have done them a power of good.

  53. At 01:38 AM on 08 Oct 2006, Mr. I. Kew wrote:

    re 48

    "Ah, John double u,
    I Kew seeks to be wistful.
    Failure is bitter."

  54. At 10:48 AM on 08 Oct 2006, John W wrote:

    I Kew (53)


    (I think that's the right symbol)

    I wonder what Lissa makes of all the weekending blogging.

    How much for no strap-line tomorrow morning until Tim the coder gets to it...

    Annasee, I've remembered that I know a soprano in an amateur choir. She has an Oz passport, but if you spoke to her you'd think she came from Yorkshire, where she grew up. Hardly counts...nature vs nurture etc.

  55. At 11:42 AM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Rufus (52),

    Ohmigoodness! I followed your example and googled said business - had no idea it still existed! And actually had forgotten what it did - just remembered the name - hey, they chose a memorable name. But I like yours better :)

    I must add, To Whom It May Concern - I take it back! I referred to Jane Horrocks as "incredibly up herself" in an earlier thread. This opinion was based on a couple of interviews I saw her give many years ago (she didn't actually say much on "This Week" last week). However, she's on Desert Island Discs at the mo and is coming across as 'quite nice actually'. This means that:
    1. KY brings out the best in people;
    2. JH has changed over the years; or
    3. I was wrong.

    I am quite prepared to accept it was probably me. Sorry Ms Horrocks.

  56. At 12:18 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Appy (55)

    KY brings out the best in people????

    I believe the correct words to utter at this point are :

    Ooh Err!!!

  57. At 12:39 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Oh Doc! I've just seen your 50!

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY (for yesterday - sorry I didn't see it yesterday but if you will decline to inform us until it's all but 39 minutes over...)

    Did you celebrate in style?

  58. At 01:33 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Hope you had a good day, Doc

  59. At 01:40 PM on 08 Oct 2006, valery pedant wrote:

    Hey, I think I'm doing addled today, as I seem not to being following a lot of what's gone on above. I shall not be drawn, however, by backtracking any further (I must not obsess, I must not obsess). Let it go-o-o

    Happy belated birthday Dr H, did you have a cake?

    I checked your photos out yesterday Whisht (you had added more to the other day's, or did I not look propery first time round?) and was inspired to try (again) to upload some. (If anyone remembers, that last time I tried it, I got the impression the whole of the inside of the pc was getting sucked past my eyes, so I aborted). This time I thought I'd try the emailing method, but the email just bounced back :o(. I know some of you guys keep giving me hints and tips on "young people's stuff", but where am I going wrong again?

    Ap, I'm glad you are revising thoughts on jane h., I have always been so impressed by her, and felt ridiculously sad that you felt so strongly against her!

    Re furballs/catsick/dead mice-as-gifts etc, I'm so glad Pluto is a dog, we've just had a fantastic autumnal walk. What is the predominant colour of nature where you all are? We are still VERY green for this time of year (lets blame David Cameron) - but, once I again I thought, I'll go and check out the secret sloe bush and just pick them anyway even though we haven't had the first frost. Harrumph - 2, count them 2 left. So I shan't get much sloe gin out of that lot


  60. At 01:45 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    I missed that one too! Happy Birthday, Dr. Hack. Hope you had a good time yesterday

  61. At 03:18 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Fearless! You are as bad as John H!

    Clearly 'PM brings out the smut in people' too.

    Actually, do you think a little dab of said substance would sooth my nose just now? The vaseline's OK but it needs topping up far too often :(

    Doc, I know you didn't want cake so I've got you a big cigar. You don't have to smoke it - I just thought it would suit you somehow...

  62. At 05:15 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Appy (61)
    Are you really saying that John H and I are bad boys? It's all just an attempt to make our friends here smile, honest!

    As for your question, it's got to be worth a try, but I'd also try aqueous cream (available in tubes or tubs from pharmacies or big supermarkets like Tesburys). That's a very good moisturising agent, plus it's good as an emollient as well. (I know this as I get psorasis, and it's a good way to ease a flare up of that).

    hmm, I can just imaging Doc H walking around with his big cigar, glasses and a large black moustache...

  63. At 05:57 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Dr Hackenbush wrote:

    No cake, but thanks all.

  64. At 06:05 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Valery (59),

    It's all quite green here too. There was a springiness around earlier when ventured out into the back garden (that's as far as I've been today).

    I have got quite a lot of work done today though, sore nose or not.

    Fearless (62),

    Sorry to hear about the psoriasis, hope it's under control. I too have long been a user of aqueous cream - used to whack it straight on my feet after swimming to avoid horrible dry heels - but I don't have any at the mo as I've found that there is an even better thing for feet (name escapes me) and for most other things there's usually some expensive, specialist, girly cream, that I've been persuaded to buy, against my better judgement. I might try that foot stuff on my nose - even though it just seems wrong you know?

    Oh roll on tomorrow afternoon - I'm expecting to feel better and so am going to have the afternoon off in lieu of having done lots of work this weekend. Hurrah! Anyone want to play out?

  65. At 06:07 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Valery (59),

    It's all quite green here too. There was a springiness around earlier when ventured out into the back garden (that's as far as I've been today).

    I have got quite a lot of work done today though, sore nose or not.

    Fearless (62),

    Sorry to hear about the psoriasis, hope it's under control. I too have long been a user of aqueous cream - used to whack it straight on my feet after swimming to avoid horrible dry heels - but I don't have any at the mo as I've found that there is an even better thing for feet (name escapes me) and for most other things there's usually some expensive, specialist, girly cream, that I've been persuaded to buy, against my better judgement. I might try that foot stuff on my nose - even though it just seems wrong you know?

    Oh roll on tomorrow afternoon - I'm expecting to feel better and so am going to have the afternoon off in lieu of having done lots of work this weekend. Hurrah! Anyone want to play out?


  66. At 06:10 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    P.S. Yes, FF, you are both very bad boys.

  67. At 07:46 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Well! My full message hasn't shown up but the P.S. to it has. How silly is that?

  68. At 08:39 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Was in in one of these frogs that the Sean Ley (sp?) sh/City was mentioned?

    Just listened to Roger Bolton feeding it back.

    He then said he was going to sign off 'carefully' before going home to the country.

    Hmmmmmmmmm....... is it just me, or was he being a bit naughty?

  69. At 08:49 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Harumph! Now my pre-PS message has turned up twice, which is even sillier!

    I am well aware that I'm talking to myself now...

  70. At 09:08 PM on 08 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    Blimey O'Reilly! (O'Riley?? sp?? dunno - something I've said since a kid but not seen written!)
    Its Sunday evening and where to begin??!!
    well, I'm sorry I was away but I was with my sister for her birthday and so missed Doc H's - happy birthday!

    what else have i missed??!
    Well people have been looking at me photos - eek!!
    Well thankyou! erm, I didn't invite anyone to do this (hence some people saying "hey what?") but happened to comment while on Flikr looking at the PM postcards and my comment leaves a link to photos I put on Flikr ages ago - actually very dull stuff - photos of me giving-up-work since last november (hm, not retiring, just taking a break - now back in the thick of it I'm afraid!)
    All I can say is thankyou to all your kind words to a guy confronted with a beautiful view and responding with a simple snap!
    Valery - I use the Flikr Uploader to upload. I'm not techy so won't recommend, but I'm not techy and it worked well enough for me!

    what else?? well Frances - I'll get to you soon...

    um KY - OK?!!? probably...

    Charles(28) - congratulations! I'm in awe and glad it was you as it couldn't happen to a nicer.. etc etc!! Lets hope that you never have recourse to use your own insight!

    Aperitif - I hope your cold's getting better! and your advice (column) is always welcome ("Agony Aunty Appy"?!!?). and yes. I'm as thick as a wall.
    FF(25) - yes - I think all men have heard this at one time or another (and some of us have heard it once too often!!) - btw, love the photos!!

    Now, Frances O.... I'll start with (26) - a simple typo ("whist") and whaddya do?? Character assasination!?! I'm no cad!! (oh, hold on...)

    and Frances - (39) - wha??!? I was as confused as Aperitif! Then we realise(45) that either you're graphically very advanced (too advanced?) or have a navel (maybe a novel) background!
    Aperitif (somehow) knew what the hell I was going on about in (7). Though I'd forgotten it was called a "chad". Too much Nigel Rees as a kid methinks.

    phew - so much in two days! amazing what happens when Eddie leaves us alone....

    is that everything covered?

  71. At 09:17 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    You're not talking to youself, promise :)

    The psoriasis is good, thanks:)) I'm used to it now, so I tend not to think about it anymore...

    I'd guessed there was another message before your last one... It's just a case of waiting for the system to catch up with you usually...

    I know what you mean, though. Foot cream on your nose really doesn't work, does it?!?

    btw, why the 123456789?

    p.s. I do try to be a nice guy, honest:)

  72. At 09:42 PM on 08 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    everything covered? maybe not.

    Frances - Mr. Chad is also known (better??) as "Kilroy woz 'ere"

    though this may not help anyone.
    as for braids....
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| o ||b
    d|| o ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| o ||b
    d|| o ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b
    d|| 8 ||b

    i promise not to do that again, for fear of a cuff round the lug hole

  73. At 09:50 PM on 08 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    woah!! now hold on a cottenpickingminute!!

    Frances - I knew you were smart but this smart??

    I just used a well known online encyclopedia (others are available but... do you know any??) for "chad" and got this link to "kilroy woz 'ere".
    "kilroy" aka "chad"
    "in Chile, the graphic is known as a "sapo" [frog]; this may refer to the character's peeping, a habit associated with frogs because of their protruding eyes."

    Now - I thought you just hadn't turned my rubbish picture in (2) on its side, but maybe you were having a laugh with all this in mind!?! - in which case...
    Big up to the O!! and can I live in your world when you eventually take over??

  74. At 10:15 PM on 08 Oct 2006, whisht wrote:

    btw - when looking for "frogging" I also found this.

    I don't quite know what to say (or what it means!) except that "dread high bit disease" fills me with..... dread!!

  75. At 10:21 PM on 08 Oct 2006, Aperitif wrote:

    Wow! Yes, Whisht, I am impressed by Frances O's extensive knowledge of "The Chad" too, now that you've investigated and explained. I feel a curtsey (sp?) coming on! But I'm worried about this "thick" business - It's Valery's walls that are thick (her words, not mine); your words, on the other hand, were very wise. I forbid you to twist my meaning like that again!!!

    Fearless, I confess, the nose was geting so sore I put the other stuff on it - it's not really foot cream (although I only use it on m'feet) - it's called "Epaderm" and it's like a gunky marriage of vaseline and aqueous. The idea was disgusting but the nose is much better, and I may be able to turn up at the office tomorrow not looking like I'm auditioning to be a Christmas-show reindeer.

    I don't know why I felt the urge to share that, but there you go.

    I don't know why the 123456789! I didn't notice until you asked - and it's on one and not the other????!!!!


  76. At 01:53 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Mr. I. Kew wrote:

    "Sunday, day of rest;
    Except for straplines, which have
    Monday off, in lieu."

  77. At 08:27 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Fearless Fred wrote:

    Why, whisht (70), thanks for the positive comments:) Like you, it was a case of being somewhere, and having a camera... btw I think like you I've had that phrase said a little too often!

    I'd always thought of them as Kilroys myself. The only thing now is that Kilroy can also used to describe someone with a really orange (fake?) tan :p As for chads, that now makes me think of little pieces of paper (as in the US 2000 election...)

    Appy (75) I just hope you remember to wipe the gunk off before leaving the house this morning!


  78. At 09:11 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Stephen, Leader of STROP wrote:

    Morning all

    You'll be please to know that nurse managed to keep me sedated for the entirety of the weekend, and I feel that my Sanity is restored.

    The sitting, rocking in my chair is, I am assured, an after effect that will settle given time.

    Now where are my pills...

  79. At 09:31 AM on 09 Oct 2006, John H. wrote:

    Morning everybody. What a busy bunch of froggers you are.

    Belated 'Happy Birthday!' Dr H.

    Chad - never heard of that - but can't believe that the "Wot, no..." didn't give it away. Was gonna suggest using the <pre> tags to position your text, but then realised that it actually works as it is - duh!

    The whole Kilroy/Chad/frog link was just too much (sorry, can't remember which intellectual giant came up with that) - hairs on back of neck tingling.

    Drinks - have you athelete's nose? Hope it's better. The other stuff you only use on your nose for sucking up to your boss.

    "Autumn" here is very green - ridiculously so. We're holding off on the sloe for the moment, but actually prefer damson gin. Coincidentally, got a few litres of that on the go yesterday.

    Need to get on. Just deposited Mrs H at the railway station for another week away with work. Hey ho.

  80. At 09:37 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    Whisht, there's also this in your 'frogging' link:

    "Might occur, for example, if one bit of each incoming character on a tty were stuck, so that some characters were correct and others were not."

    Could refer to a frog not 100 bytes from here?

    Nah! We are all correct!

    I'm worried about the character stuck on a tty, though...

  81. At 10:01 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Big Sister wrote:

    Just thought I'd post a friendly greeting to Eddie and the team. Hope you all had a good weekend and that the hangover on Saturday morning didn't spoil the rest of your day.

    Speaking for myself, I found Friday's activities quite exhilerating! This is the best blog going and every bit as good as three hours in the gym.

  82. At 10:04 AM on 09 Oct 2006, Whisht wrote:

    Frances Ooooo!!

    I could have referred to that but... didn't want to be accused of smut! and careful anyway - it seems those characters on your tty's lead to that disease... ugh.

    Now..... did you mean kilroy/ chad Chilean 'frog' and braids and.... uh! my head now hurts.....

  83. At 11:51 AM on 09 Oct 2006, andycraAsriel wrote:

    Whisht : I liked the reference to "an IBM PC" (they don't make them anymore), a very old term to mean "not a mainframe, and can sit on, or under a desk". Sort of.

  84. At 06:16 PM on 09 Oct 2006, Frances O wrote:

    OK, I confess, I didn't know.

    When I read 'chad' I thought Appy knew that these werte the perforations for a chad - hanging or otherwise, and was stunned and amazed at her knowledge.

    See, we're all cleverer than we realise!

    I will avoid tties from now on

  85. At 12:05 PM on 10 Oct 2006, valery pedant wrote:

    I know I put a frog on here last night - did it slip off into the ether? I can't even remember what I said, hmmm perhaps no loss then.

  86. At 03:16 PM on 07 Apr 2007, Aperitif wrote:

    If one googles "rah de dah" one gest a link to this page!!

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