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Tevez's selfish act of rebellion

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Phil McNulty | 05:20 UK time, Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Carlos Tevez's Manchester City career has appeared to be at an end before. This time, amid acrimony and the rage of manager Roberto Mancini in Munich, and despite a denial this morning from the striker himself, it is.

Tevez's apparent refusal to come off the substitutes' bench at the Allianz Arena as City trailed 2-0 to Bayern Munich in the Champions League was a shameless rejection of his most basic responsibility as a professional footballer.

In exchange for a contract reportedly worth £250,000 a week, the very least City should expect from Tevez is an agreement to play for the team and their supporters when requested by the manager.

And yet, with City in trouble in a group game that may yet shape their Champions League ambitions, this proved beyond him. Mancini called on Tevez's services with 35 minutes still remaining, but said the Argentine was unwilling to respond.

Carlos Tevez (centre) and the Manchester City substitutes at the Allianz Arena

Mancini said Tevez (centre) refused to come on as a substitute in Munich. Photo: Getty Images

Bayern were in control as City struggled in the club's most important European game for a generation - but Tevez is a game-changer and there was still time to change this game. Instead he chose to break what is effectively an unwritten law, and went on strike in the middle of a match.

Tevez may have claimed this morning that it was "a misunderstanding", while keeping his exact reasons to himself. But it was still a selfish act of rebellion that was an insult to his manager, team-mates and those fans who can only fantasise about the riches he has lavished on him.

Only last week City goalkeeper Joe Hart, one of the men Tevez refused to play alongside in Munich, said: "He's never disrespected the club in any kind of way or disrespected us as team-mates. He's got on with it."

Except that in Munich he did. And he didn't.

BBC Radio 5 live pundit and former Manchester City defender Danny Mills, who was in the Allianz Arena, suggested Tevez should have been told to make his own way back to Manchester from Munich.

It was a valid suggestion. If Tevez thinks so little of his colleagues that he does not wish to play alongside them, then why should he sit beside them on the flight home?

It might also have left Tevez with some uncomfortable explaining to do had he found himself alongside any City supporters at the airport ticket desks.

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Mancini was unequivocal in his condemnation. Tevez, said the Italian, is finished at Manchester City. There is no way back for the player who, although richly gifted, has also proved troublesome in the last 10 months.

In December last year he asked to leave and repeated the demand this summer. Tevez's reasons for wishing to quit Manchester have been something of a moveable feast ranging from homesickness, general unhappiness in Manchester, missing his family and a breakdown in relations with club executives.

And yet, apart from what was quickly revealed to be a wildly over-optimistic bid from Brazilian side Corinthians, no serious offers were received. This is where the problem now lies for City and Tevez.

The Munich incident means City will surely want Tevez off the premises in short order. It is hard to see Mancini wanting him anywhere near his first-team squad, even in training, but it will be January before any deal can be done.

No doubt we will soon hear from Tevez's ever-present representative Kia Joorabchian. He may now, however, find it even more difficult to conclude a very rich deal after his client's alleged insubordination in Munich.

Would any club - and there was hardly a long and orderly queue forming for his services before - wish to commit such huge sums on such a very obviously high-maintenance individual as Tevez?

In the harsh reality of reflection, Tevez may find an understanding of the scale and consequences of his actions. Or maybe not. Whatever his next step, he has run out of road at Manchester City. It is now simply a question of when and how he will go.

Of course, fingers have already been pointed at Mancini, and City's supposed willingness to foster a culture of ego in bringing a collection of highly paid players into the club in such a relatively small space of time but the club are blameless here.

City have behaved in an exemplary fashion towards Tevez. The club have been willing to work with him to try to solve his understandable misery at continued separation from his children. What happened in Munich was a step over any acceptable line. A refusal to play means you relinquish the right to sympathy.

Tevez is not going to be given away by City, no matter how many billions their Abu Dhabi owners have. Indeed, they are rich enough to let Tevez rot away from the main body of Mancini's squad and see who blinks first.

And what about City's supporters, who have continued to back Tevez despite the fickle nature of his affections in recent months? The game in Munich was the one ringed in red in their calendar.

This was their official return to the biggest European stage and yet those who may have scraped together the cash to go in hard times saw their journey scarred by Tevez.

In general terms it was also another damaging incident for football. Large sections of the public have little time for footballers, especially in these austere times when their riches seem out of kilter with the wider, harsher financial climate. Tevez's petulance is hardly designed to win back their favour.

The irony is that City have done rather nicely without Tevez already this season. Yes, they may have lost to Bayern but the Germans are in outstanding form and these early games were always going to contain an element of education for a team still learning in the Champions League.

Now Tevez has provided a sideshow City and Mancini can do without. They must find a quick solution on how to bring down the curtain.

When Tevez signed for City he was heralded with the infamous "Welcome To Manchester" billboard that so grated with United manager Sir Alex Ferguson.

As City's plane landed back in Manchester in the early hours, the sentiment was that anywhere except Manchester was now welcome to Carlos Tevez.

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    All you can really say is that Carlos is a silly boy. I've always admired him for his play, chasing down almost everything, but I knew he could sometimes be a little weird. Unfortunately this did go a little too far. I like to see a good game - I'm a neutral - so I hope Tevez stays at Man City or at least at an English club, because the way he plays football is excellent.

  • Comment number 2.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 3.

    Man City didn't need to keep him over the summer, he should have gone to Inter. The money isn't a huge factor but why try to hold on to and pay a player £250,000 a week who obviously does not want to be there?

  • Comment number 4.

    Can't help thinking this might actually all be a misunderstanding, considering the poor English of both Mancini and Tevez. In post-match interviews Mancini basically just repeated back what journalists said to him, and Tevez, talking through his translator, seemed entirely unaware that he was being accused of refusing to play - he replied to "why didn't you come on?" with "if the manager doesn't want to bring me on, that's his decision".

  • Comment number 5.

    If i were the Manchester City boss, he would rot in the reserves and then attend playgroup on an afternoon to spend time with individuals who he may learn from.

    What an absolute idiot of a man he has been, not just last night, but since his arrival on our fair shores.He earns more in one week than I earn in ten years which is why I hate footballers for their greed and infantile behaviour.

    About time for ALL footballers to be taxed at 90% to support the rest of us in our current times of financial hardship.

  • Comment number 6.

    As a man utd fan ave never liked Tevez, always seen him as a big sulking kid! He was the same at west ham, man utd and now man city, the guy needs to have a hard look in the mirror because if he doesnt buck up his ideas, no club will want him in there ranks, no matter how talented he may be!

  • Comment number 7.

    This is hardly surprising, most players at most clubs play for the shirt - at least to some degree if it's a club they respect. Tevez is at City for the money (as are most of the players) and it was going to happen sooner or later when the club and the shirt are meaningless to him, and I suspect others in the squad

  • Comment number 8.

    I've idolised him since he's been here....even gave him the benefit of the doubt about reasons for wanting to leave! We should absolutely not sack him (surely thats what he wants)... wouldn't even put him in the reserves....make him clean boot's and toilets for the rest of his contract! absolute disgrace!

  • Comment number 9.

    i wondered when the main man would pen his piece on last nights events concerning both clubs in manchester.

    Interestingly, no waxing lyrical about man u who in the easiest group blew the result, and for weeks we have been hearing they are ready to take on Barca ( laughs )

    as for Tevez, i am actually behind the guy 100% !

    it was not long ago Mr McNulty and many on bios blogs were slaughtering Wenger and Arsenal for trying to keep a player at the club who's " heart " was clearly not in it.
    Negotiations went on and on and on and the Media decided they would all take the moral high ground by saying Arsenal should sell him.

    tevez makes its VERY!! clear he wants to MOVE! but the powers that be at City decided, because they are not strapped for cash, to keep the player AGAINST HIS WILL.

    Arsene ? if your reading this, get the cheque book out and bring Tevez to LONDON!

  • Comment number 10.

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  • Comment number 11.

    #9,

    Spot on! It's amazing how the media change tune at their fancy. It's made easy by the lemming-like masses.

  • Comment number 12.

    9. At 08:18 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre wrote:

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    against his will? he's contracted to the club!

    and unsurprisingly anyone with sense didn't want to buy him!

  • Comment number 13.

    As a Man Utd fan I also never liked Tevez since he left...partly due to the way he left, saying how hated Manchester and wanted to leave, then join City, and also the way he spat his dummy out when Berbatov was continually picked ahead of him upfront with W.Rooney...He's a class player but unfortunatley, he has a bad attitude, and no one will want to buy him soon!

  • Comment number 14.

    interesting also this saga now deflects from the fact with all the wealth etc man city were blown away and collectively an embarrassment to the PL and mancinni had yet again NO ANSWERS!

    Well done to Tevez for having the guts to stand up to the empire.

    he wanted to leave, they should have allowed him to go.

  • Comment number 15.

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  • Comment number 16.

    13. At 08:22 28th Sep 2011, Raikkonen4Lifee wrote:

    He's a class player but unfortunatley, he has a bad attitude, and no one will want to buy him soon!

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    completely agree but soon? probably already!

  • Comment number 17.

    4. Zoomy wrote:

    Can't help thinking this might actually all be a misunderstanding, considering the poor English of both Mancini and Tevez.
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    It's a nice sentiment, but one that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. If you watch the pictures he's blatantly refusing, it's not a misunderstanding.

    It fits his MO, he engineers a move from every club he's been at after a couple of years, but City knew that from the start and they used him too ... a match made in heaven in my opinion.

  • Comment number 18.

    Phil I find it interesting that you are so willing to condemn Tevez before you have all of the facts. I agree that his behaviour is probably inexcusable however while you are on your soap box talking about the morality of the situation let me just pose a question to you. It is unlikely that this happened but imagine if at half time Tevez had received news that one of his children had fallen seriously ill and been taken to hospital. I would have thought that in this scenario his apparent refusal to play would instantly become understandable. This is unlikely but maybe it's something you should think about before you write absolute statements saying how atrocious what he did was.

  • Comment number 19.

    12. At 08:21 28th Sep 2011, swindonbluearmy wrote:

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    Wenger should have gone for him!

    Tevez is a workhorse i have admired his spirit and determination from day 1

    i would have loved to see him at Arsenal.

  • Comment number 20.

    And things were looking so good for Man City so far this season.

    I have to say as a Man Utd supporter I was sad to see SAF let Tevez go at that time thinking he was better for the team than Berbatov. While I still harbor some doubts about Berbatov I have never questioned his attitude. He is far more a team player and has never complained about his lack of game time. I can thank SAF now for letting Tevez go.

    Mancini, despite his critics, has my respect. He cannot tolerate this behaviour from any of his players - no player should be more important than the club.

    PS: No a similar note I was dissapointed by Dzeko's reaction...I thought much better of him than that.

  • Comment number 21.

    14. At 08:23 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre wrote:
    interesting also this saga now deflects from the fact with all the wealth etc man city were blown away and collectively an embarrassment to the PL and mancinni had yet again NO ANSWERS!

    Well done to Tevez for having the guts to stand up to the empire.

    he wanted to leave, they should have allowed him to go.

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    It's city's first season in chapions League and came up against a very strong, unbeaten, Bayern at home...most teams would have struggled last night!

    Embarrassment to the PL? your just being belligerent for the sake of it, say something with substance if your going to trow in your pennies worth

  • Comment number 22.

    He's a class player but unfortunatley, he has a bad attitude, and no one will want to buy him soon!

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    completely agree but soon? probably already!

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    Haha yeah agreed, should have gone to Inter when the chance arose...But i'm not sure how that deal fell through so we woun't get into that ;)

  • Comment number 23.

    PS: No a similar note I was dissapointed by Dzeko's reaction...I thought much better of him than that.

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    Me too....are the wheels coming off already? I do hope not :(

  • Comment number 24.

    ManUtdFan wrote:
    And things were looking so good for Man City so far this season.

    I have to say as a Man Utd supporter I was sad to see SAF let Tevez go at that time thinking he was better for the team than Berbatov. While I still harbor some doubts about Berbatov I have never questioned his attitude. He is far more a team player and has never complained about his lack of game time. I can thank SAF now for letting Tevez go.

    Mancini, despite his critics, has my respect. He cannot tolerate this behaviour from any of his players - no player should be more important than the club.

    PS: No a similar note I was dissapointed by Dzeko's reaction...I thought much better of him than that.

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    Completely agree about your first paragraph, Berbatov is a better team player, and as soon as Tevez wasn't starting due to Berbatov he spat the dummy out!

  • Comment number 25.

    Carlos Tevez: 25 million
    Edin Dzeko: 27 million
    Watching Manchester City implode: Priceless

    In all seriousness though, this is a strange story whichever way you look at it. If Tevez genuinely refused to come off the bench that is inexcusable, but on the other hand you have to by mystified at Mancini and a tactical approach that involves first shutting up shop at 2-0 down and then suddenly deciding to chase the game.

    No doubt all parties will move on from this, but its a telling moment in the history of Etihad FC. I compare and contrast with this time last year. Spurs were new to the champions league, went away to Inter Milan and found themselves being beaten heavily. The difference is that the Tottenham players pulled together, gave the ball to their attacking players and mounted a glorious attempt at a comeback that was the catalyst for the rest of their campaign.

  • Comment number 26.

    He's a class player but unfortunatley, he has a bad attitude, and no one will want to buy him soon!

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    completely agree but soon? probably already!

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    Haha yeah agreed, should have gone to Inter when the chance arose...But i'm not sure how that deal fell through so we woun't get into that ;)


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    I dont think inter wanted to pay the 50 million plus take on his wages off 250k a week, this was all before eto left for the mega rich russian team(forget there name)

  • Comment number 27.

    11. At 08:20 28th Sep 2011, The Patriot wrote:

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    thank you.

    I now await the response from others as to how it is Arsenal should not be keeping players who's " hearts are clearly not in it " but in the case of City and Tevez the story is so much different.

    as for the mention of contracts? yes i agree it would have been good for all concerned that all players! honour their contracts, but as so often has been pointed out, some don't want to, and wish to leave.

  • Comment number 28.

    There is no defending Carlos refusing to play, but neither can you defend Mancini, when will the fans realise that with the amount of money spent, City should be even stronger than they are.
    Mancini bringing off a forward and replacing him with a holding midfield player when 2-0 down, no shock to me, he is negative despite the riches he possesses in his squad, no wonder Tevez sees his back side.Mancini did not like Bellamy, another who shed blood for the club and plays Jo on the left, Pleeease!!!
    He also seems to put up with anything that balloon Balotelli does and then plays him again.
    Everton on Saturday was dire for an hour, City fielded a back four and two holding midfield players against an Everton with one up top.
    Time Mancini went not Tevez, time for City fans to realise, that it is the investment not the manager that has in proved the lot of a great club and a set of fans loyal beyond belief. Only Mancini could produce the bore that the first half was on Saturday especially when you have the likes of Silva and Aguero in his team. The Italian league is poor, their tactics negative, yet English clubs seem to want Italian managers, strange.

  • Comment number 29.

    What would happen if you or I behaved like that in our jobs?

    Breach of contract!
    Contract terminated!
    Out the door!

    Shimples........................

  • Comment number 30.

    im not sure i buy into the fact that it was a misunderstanding. Looks like he's just trying to cover his ground.

    13. i actually felt sorry for him while he was at old trafford. He was not treated well there by Sir Alex. But City have treated him very well and his behaviour has been anything but proffessional.

  • Comment number 31.

    In all seriousness though, this is a strange story whichever way you look at it. If Tevez genuinely refused to come off the bench that is inexcusable, but on the other hand you have to by mystified at Mancini and a tactical approach that involves first shutting up shop at 2-0 down and then suddenly deciding to chase the game.

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    We were getting mullered in midfield at 2-0 down...how would bringing off a MF player for Tevez make any sense? surely sure up first then attack once we'd gained a little more solidity in the middle of the park! all out attack would have resulted in 4,5,6-0 against Bayern!

  • Comment number 32.

    21. At 08:26 28th Sep 2011, swindonbluearmy wrote:

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    fair enough

    it was a good night all round for manchester

    substance without rhetoric. cheers.

  • Comment number 33.

    Have just seen a clip of this on YouTube and have to say that it didn't look as dramtatic as I'd been led to believe.

    The facts seem clear cut, Mancini has stated that he wanted Tevez to come on and obviously he didn't, so presumably he refused to play. But in the short 20 second clip I saw, Tevez didn't have to body language of a man throwing a tantrum, or flat out refusing to obey instructions. Instead he looked somewhat confused and then turned to his team-mate with a shrug of the shoulders and a look of 'don't ask me, i dunno'...

  • Comment number 34.

    Bless him. I don't think he gets it. If he wants to be paid as much as he is, he has to do as he is told and he has to live in Manchester (or near it). If he wants to do something else, somewhere else, he will have to accept lower wages. Surely his "people" can find a way to explain this to him.

  • Comment number 35.

    Kia Joorabchian is behind this.

    Agents like him (well no doubt most of them) should be banned from the game.

  • Comment number 36.

    I'm lost for words regarding Tevez. He never said no to his extremely expensive salary. Professional footballers get off the bench and show the manager he was wrong for not using them from the start but they do it the right way, by helping the team to win a match. It's shameless on his part and I don't think he did any favours to his footballing career.

    It's not all lost for City. Just they have to do it the hard way now. Mancini will need to have his team united again. Manchester City have the players to progress in Champions League. Now it's the time to get together and bounce back, playing as a unit and not as individuals.

  • Comment number 37.

    32. At 08:35 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre wrote:
    21. At 08:26 28th Sep 2011, swindonbluearmy wrote:

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    fair enough

    it was a good night all round for manchester

    substance without rhetoric. cheers.

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    HAHA even United dropping points didn't cheer me up...truly a disaster :)

  • Comment number 38.

    28. Italian managers have a far far far better record than English managers.

  • Comment number 39.

    You are very quick to play judge and jury here Phil. Maybe there was a misunderstanding as Tevez claims; in the meantime judgement should be reserved until all facts are established.

    What the incident does, is to conveniently deflect attention from the abject performance of City's expensively assembled "superstars" last night. Bayern were just strolling in the second half and City looked clueless even disinterested. This was a collective embarassment regardless of how good the opposition is.

    I think that Mancini is out of his depth in the CL. Look at his poor record at Inter, considering the talent at his disposal. But I'll reserve final judgement on him until the end of the group phase.

  • Comment number 40.

    29. BUNmeister wrote:

    What would happen if you or I behaved like that in our jobs?

    Breach of contract! Contract terminated! Out the door!
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    A bit of a difference though, we wouldn't have a resale value :)

  • Comment number 41.

    Did Tevez play in the first Champions League game? If not, is this a pathetic ruse to ensure he is not cup tied and can try and escape in January ???

  • Comment number 42.

    19.At 08:26 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre wrote:
    12. At 08:21 28th Sep 2011, swindonbluearmy wrote:

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    Wenger should have gone for him!

    Tevez is a workhorse i have admired his spirit and determination from day 1

    i would have loved to see him at Arsenal.
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    Maybe Wenger is a better judge of character than you think and viewed Tevez as too disruptive to want to sign him. Also he wasn't sold in teh summer as Corinthians didn't have all the money in place and no-one else put a bid in. His best bet is signing for that outfit in Russia that Eto'o went to. (can't spell the club name so not going to try)

  • Comment number 43.

    Seems odd that Tevez is putting it all down to a misunderstanding but cannot provide specific details - is that because its so glaringly obvious that he threw his toys out of the pram that he still hasnt had time to come up with a credible alternative version of events?

    What sort of misunderstanding could you even have - I mean he's kitted up, warmed up, ready to play, midway through the second half the manager approaches him... I dont think that Mancini was asking Carlos to nip down to the local shop and bring him back a packet of fags!

  • Comment number 44.

    City are also to blame for this kind of situation. They have gone way over board with trying to buy success in a short amount of time. Paying high salaries doesn't guarantee happiness from the player your buying but it can often show greed from this player. This level is no longer real football, real football is played on the parks where the players often pay to play and turn up week after week to play alongside their mates. Shame on the situation in the professional football world!

  • Comment number 45.

    As a season ticket holder who attends every game, I can honestly say that almost ALL City fans have stayed loyal to Carlos every time he's crossed the line and even when he's tried to orchestrate moves away from the club. City fans forgive, but last night that changed. We now need to back Mancini and get the parasite out of the club. Carlos is a cancer who will eat away at what's being built at City. If Dzeko thinks he can follow down the same road, he can go too. Maybe last night was a turning point. Mancini was absolutely right when he said that what happened wouldn't be tolerated at Milan or United. Viva la revolution.

  • Comment number 46.

    Have to laugh at some of the biased Man Utd fans on here. Maybe some of the man city "fans" should put on balaclavas and attempt to get into Tevez's house after which City should give him an improved contract. Worked with Rooney, another play who expressed his desire to leave but was "persuaded" to stay (but hey he kisses the badge right?)
    And people saying Berbatov had a more professional attitude have obviously forgotten how he left Spurs, basically refusing to play and when picked displaying the most awful body language similar to Ronaldo at Man utd when he wanted to leave.
    Professionalism in football sadly increasingly is less and less about being "professional" and honouring contracts.

  • Comment number 47.

    Focusing on Tevez’z selfish act of rebellion; instead of Bayern victory...Priceless!

  • Comment number 48.

    As far as I can tell City could sack him for breach of contract but hold on to his registration for the duration of his contract, it is the registration that has the value after all.

    As for all these people saying Berbatov is a much better team player, are you serious?!?!?!? He did exactly the same thing at spurs to get hias move to man utd! The only difference is that it was kept in house so they were still able to get £32m for hi, a week later!

  • Comment number 49.

    @ 27.At 08:32 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre,

    Arsenal are in such a state that I don't think you'll find many fans interested in paying the compliments back. I can't even bother reminding you of a number 8 (eight) and the fact that you have to travel to Manchester again, this season.

    City can still go on and do the work in Champions League. United are still expected to top their group. United and City are still the main title contenders, along with Chelsea.

    Arsenal though are in the duldrums, in a sorry state and all signs say that the last of their quality players will not sign a new contract.

    Being so bitter on the first opportunity - not for Premiership matches but for Champions League fixtures - show ommission of class that, in all probability, you never had as a football fan.

  • Comment number 50.

    #33 - The facts seem clear cut, Mancini has stated that he wanted Tevez to come on and obviously he didn't, so presumably he refused to play. But in the short 20 second clip I saw, Tevez didn't have to body language of a man throwing a tantrum, or flat out refusing to obey instructions. Instead he looked somewhat confused and then turned to his team-mate with a shrug of the shoulders and a look of 'don't ask me, i dunno'...

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    As he's been here 4 years with his wages surely he can employ someone to teach him English (like his translator)

  • Comment number 51.

    still waiting for an explanation into the utter hypocrisy of the sporting media in this country?

    and just how did Phil get from manchester to munich with only 35 mins left on the clock?

    I was looking forward to his article on how man u slipped up but given the events at City i suspected he would prefer not to attempt to undermine this wonder team, man u, he and others have been prattling on about for the last six weeks. who are ?
    " sweeping all before them "

  • Comment number 52.

    The whole Tevez saga needs to be brought to a conclusion as soon as possible. His insistence that he was, in fact, prepared to play is doubtless case of acting on the advice of his agent who is aware of the potential legal/career implications of failing to fulfil your contractual obligations i.e. actually play for the 250K a week you're currently being paid.

    My main concern is the club and the remainder of this season. The Champions League this year may have to be written off as a necessary 'learning experience'. Players and manager alike got it all wrong last night against a very good, very savvy Bayern Munich. Providing the club acts quickly to prevent Tevez undermining the team as a whole, City can yet have an excellent season. But for this to happen the owners and board must give unqualified backing to the manager (regardless of what people may feel about Mancini as an individual and as a coach) .

  • Comment number 53.

    #9

    Totally different situation with regards to Arsenal and City. Clubs actually wanted to buy the players who were unhappy at Arsenal, plus one of the players wanted to go and play for his boyhood club, Tevez just wants to move. No one wants to buy Tevez due to his excessive wage demands, the only clubs to even suggest they were interested was the allegedly 'fake' bid from Corinthians and Inter who said they would be interested but couldn't aford his wages.

    To compare the two situations is crazy.

  • Comment number 54.

    #46 - And people saying Berbatov had a more professional attitude have obviously forgotten how he left Spurs, basically refusing to play and when picked displaying the most awful body language similar to Ronaldo at Man utd when he wanted to leave.
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    Ronaldo played exceptionally in the 2 seasons before he went to Madrid winning us the Premier League twice and getting to 2 Champions League finals winning 1 and losing the other. Great player with a highly professional attitude unlike Tevez

  • Comment number 55.

    I can't work out whether City fans on here are either completely stupid or so blinded by what a mistake they've made making him their God,Saviour,Whatever that they are still defending him.

    "Maybe it was a misunderstanding??" "Lost in translation" "But he's our saviour" "But those horrible United fans couldn't have been right all along could they???"

    It's laughable, in fact i'm actually laughing now thinking about it. Tevez is a disgrace and should be made to rot for the remainder of his career with the reserves. If he refuses then just refuse to pay him each week he refuses to travel to Oldham for the Northern Reserves League.

  • Comment number 56.

    @41

    I dont know the answer, but thats a damn good question

  • Comment number 57.

    I am sure that I saw an article stating that his Family are now with him in the UK, and if so that can be ruled out as an excuse.
    When asked on SKY why he refused to play, via a translator, he spouted the history of his wanting to move. Unless the translator was making it up then this to me suggests that this was an act of defiance.

    If I ever refused to obey an instruction at my contracted place of work I would be in breach of that contract and be summarily dismissed. This is one way of reducing the ludicrous salary paid to this Diva, but perhaps this is the intention. Would like to know if his contract is terminated does that negate any transfer fee to Manchester City as they could still hold some form of registration?

  • Comment number 58.

    PS: No a similar note I was dissapointed by Dzeko's reaction...I thought much better of him than that.

    ..................................

    I don't think it was Dzeko's fault that he was having a bad night, he had no supply, the midfield was not giving the support he needed, it was a bad day in the office for city, Nasri is better playing in the centre, should have had Sila and Milner on the wings, with a bit of swapping about from the three, it was a bit of naivety from Mancini, including leaving Lescot on the bench for Toure. As much as we dared to dream, reality is it probably the toughest of the groups and a hard introduction to the CL, reality hit home hard last night but we have to learn from it.

    The Tevez saga is a different issue, despite chucking his toys out of the pram a couple of times already he always appeared to give his all on the pitch, but last night was a disgrace, he mustn't be allowed anywhere near the team from now on, I wouldn't even want him tainting the reserves from now on.

  • Comment number 59.

  • Comment number 60.

    There's no misunderstanding here, City fans should wake up.

    What can be difficult about a manager wanting a player to come on, and a player saying no? Carlos has issued a statement to keep on side as many stupid enough to continue to support him, as possible. He regrets his actions as he should, but not for the right reasons. As Souness put it last night, it's all about him.

    I don't have any sympathy for City mind, they've sold their soul to get to where they are now after a couple of years and it is no surprise that another player threw a tantrum on the same night. It has been clear to me that Tevez joined City for the money, hoping that it would make up for his clear dislike of England and Manchester. It didn't and he's been wanting away for a good year.

  • Comment number 61.

    I don't dislike City they have done what any team in their position would have done. Tevez has always been like this, he's a good player but not great. Mancini has to be backed here or other players will think they could also act in this disgraceful way. City's wealth puts them in a unique position, Tevez should be forced to see out his contract in the reserves. If he refuses to play then he should not be paid.

    On another note it looks like the Premiership has gone backwards both United and City will struggle to get out of their groups, both have been embarrassed by so called lesser teams this season.

  • Comment number 62.

    thoughts. marginalise him. a lack of match fitness will inhibit him getting to play for argentina. as it's arguable that both transfer value and contract value have been severely affected by his own actions, it's time to punish the player. and i think that as an exceptional case, his salary could be suspended subject to him completing a counselling/rehab course - say one that takes 6 months....

  • Comment number 63.

    #54.Ronaldo played exceptionally in the 2 seasons before he went to Madrid winning us the Premier League twice and getting to 2 Champions League finals winning 1 and losing the other. Great player with a highly professional attitude unlike Tevez
    ---------------
    Ronaldo was a great player not disputing that but his body language absolutely stank at times during his last season at Old Trafford when it was clear he wanted out. Tevez has been exceptional for Man City over the past few seasons as well so performance isn't anything to do with attitude.

  • Comment number 64.

    49. At 08:48 28th Sep 2011, Football_UK wrote:

    ----

    far from being bitter i am actually 100% behind Tevez's stance

    if i recall rightly he, unlike CF and SN made it Abundantly cLEAR he wanted out?
    i also recall you, along with hundreds of others, led by the media were saying
    City were " right " to make him stay? but at the same time slaughtering Wenger for trying to get CF and SN to stay!

    if that is not a clear demonstration of hypocrisy then what is?

  • Comment number 65.

    I'm a City supporter and have two points to make.

    First on Tevez, honestly I don't think he refused to come on, I think he didn't feel he needed to warm up anymore as he had warmed up previously. Mancini has barely used him at all this season and when he has done so it is often very late in the game having made him warm up for most of the second half. This doesn't condone his actions because if the manager tells you to do something then you just have to do it, end of. How it has ended up being seen as refusal to play is something only Mancini can explain though from Platts comments I think he realises it may have been a misundertstanding too. Part of the issue is clearly language, Maninci's English is not great and Tevez hasn't bothered to master the language despite being in England for years now. Plus emotions were running very high, Mancini clearly uspet about the way the game was going and then the Dzeko reaction was at boiling point and we've all done it when completely wound up we often misinterpret things.

    Second the match itself.

    In my view the outcome of the match was about some strange decisions by Mancini, some excellent play and tactics by Bayern and critically (and I note not much has been highlighted about this) the timing of the 2nd goal.
    It was very odd to see Kolo Toure in central defence. The Lescott/Kompany partnership has been effective for a long time now and it is a vital part of any team's success a stable pairing in this key position. In my view Mancini often leaves Yaya Toure on too long. When on his game he is outstanding but when off it, he is neither a defensive nor attacking midfielder and Mancini has a reluctance to take him off. Dzeko was definitely not the worst player last night, some of his link up play was very good especially in the first half and really he was the only threat, in a half when we needed 2 goals taking him off was in my opinion a big mistake.
    Finally that second goal. Silly free kick to give away, poor marking and slow reaction from the defenders BUT the biggest thing is that it was the final kick of the half, meaning that instead of going in 1 down and regrouping, everyone knew the match was over, there was a lot of anger and emotion (not just from Hart!) and no doubt the dressing room would have seen heated debate. There was simply no coming back from it and in the second half Bayern controlled the game with ease and showed that they are a real threat for the whole comp.

    I also think Dzeko's getting a raw deal from Mancini

  • Comment number 66.

    Mancini once again was clueless tactically but lucky him coz he has Tevez as a scapegoat. Nothing Tevez could have done had he come in. Mancity should get rid of Mancini coz they'll never win much with him.

  • Comment number 67.

    Where's your 'welcome to Manchester' now Carlos! I'm a United fan and you could see this happening after what happend when he left us. The bloke's a complete idiot and mercenary. Well we've both been done by him and Joorabchian now, but refusing to play is just unbelievable. I think City should put him in the reserves for the next 3 years and let him rot. Can they sue him for breach of contract? Anyway, as a red, but fellow Manc, I think we should all condemn this (even if I'm quite enjoying the egg-on-the-face of the 'welcome to Manchester' thing!)

  • Comment number 68.

    Quite simply....

    "Pathetic"

    Any player that sits on the bench is eager to get on - then show manager why they should not be on the bench the next game.

    There can be no 'misunderstanding', when the boss points at you [on the bench], and says "you're coming on"

    Personally, I hope he gets fined 5-6 weeks salary, then gets pushed to train with anyone other than the first team.

  • Comment number 69.

    'a moveable feast ranging from homesickness, general unhappiness in Manchester, missing his family and a breakdown in relations with club executives.'

    So actually its not a movable feast at all but just two reasons, because homesickness and missing your family are the same thing which obviously leave you feeling 'generally' unhappy wherever the hell you are.

    Tevez is a bit of a plonker but he's a hell of a lot better a player than you are a writer.

  • Comment number 70.

    He'll earn £3million from now until January doing nothing - nice work if you can get it.

  • Comment number 71.

    Carlitos you´ll always be welcome in Boca Juniors.
    People might talk about how much money you earn and how simply life seems to you but they don´t know that there are lots
    of things that money can´t buy. Tell them about your brother in Jail that will be locked for 16 years for robbing a money truck.
    Tell them about your other brother who was cought by the police with a gun full of bullets, tell them about all your friends
    from Fuerte Apache that didn´t get as far as you did...., tell them about having your kids far from you and you can´t do anything
    to bring them near, even when you earn millions a year.
    They don´t know Carlos, that´s why you´ll always be welcome in Boca Juniors, because when you gave us a copa libertadores, an intercontinental
    and a lot more, because you gave Argentina the Gold medal in Atenas 2004.
    Carlitos, you´re humble we all know it. You are boy who grew up in the worst neighborhood of Buenos Aires and made it all the way
    to the glory, and you wouldn’t doubt for a second to leave it all and go back to where you came from.
    I admire your courage and your football. Mancini, you better watch out with this Carlitos, because he might literally kick your ass.

  • Comment number 72.

    I know this is off the point but someone needs to tell Man City players to do more training and less weight lifting.

  • Comment number 73.

    Poor old Abu Dhabi Rovers!

  • Comment number 74.

    @ 64.At 08:58 28th Sep 2011, HAHA CharadeYouAre,

    I can't even bother reply.
    As an English football fan you're a disgrace.

  • Comment number 75.

    Knee-jerk reaction mcnulty in full flow again. First declaring tevez's city career over (I bet he plays for them again) and then having massive go at him before all the facts are in. (that's not to say i don't think tevez has an awful attitude either)

  • Comment number 76.

    Tevez is a very skilled player but in this case, I don't understand him.. If he really wanted to be with his family, why don't he bring them to England?... Instant solution!

  • Comment number 77.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 78.

    74. At 09:03 28th Sep 2011, Football_UK wrote

    ----

    let me correct you;

    i am not an " english football fan " never have been, never will be !

    I am a Surporter of Arsenal

    you of all people should have realised that by now.

    ABU&ABE thrown in for good measure.

  • Comment number 79.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 80.

    Did anyone else notice last night that Kolo Toure was lacking match practice? It shows how clueless Mancini is when you throw a half fit CB into a massive european game at Bayern Munich!

  • Comment number 81.

    mancini is responsible for city not winning the league last year with his overly defensive tactics and if it hadn't been for tevez they wouldn't even been in the champions league. bringing off a striker for a defensive midfielder to shore up a 2-0 loss isn't exactly genius. tevez is a problem, but he's not the problem. tevez should be playing regularly, if mancini wants what is best for city.

  • Comment number 82.

    71.

    No offence but Boca cant afford Tevez, hence no other European clubs going for him. Not even Real Madrid.

  • Comment number 83.

    @59.At 08:56 28th Sep 2011, Jesus the Teddy Bear wrote
    @41 / 56
    No he didnt
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/14816424.stm
    .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,
    Yes he did 87th minute sub. So he can not play CL for anyone else .

  • Comment number 84.

    This latest issue is just more Man City soap opera. Forever the crisis Club, screwing it all up when things look good for them, making themselves look like a bunch of amateurs. It was the same in 70s when i lived up there for a spell. They love their soap opera there and thats why they can throw oil cash at it forever. They'll never be Man Utd, End of. Utd know it too.

  • Comment number 85.

    53. At 08:52 28th Sep 2011, Enough with the spoons wrote:
    #9

    Totally different situation with regards to Arsenal and City. Clubs actually wanted to buy the players who were unhappy at Arsenal, plus one of the players wanted to go and play for his boyhood club, Tevez just wants to move. No one wants to buy Tevez due to his excessive wage demands, the only clubs to even suggest they were interested was the allegedly 'fake' bid from Corinthians and Inter who said they would be interested but couldn't aford his wages.

    To compare the two situations is crazy.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Nonsense! Clubs wanted to buy Tevez. Clubs wanted to buy Fabregas. Barca screwed Arsenal with a miserly 35million deal when he's worth far more. ROFL, as a comparison, the utterly useless Andy Carroll is worth 35million, simply because he is an irredeemibly common Englishman.

    In a similar vein, Man City could have sold Tevez by dropping the asking price, especially given the fact that they're far richer than Arsenal.

  • Comment number 86.

    and for man city fans.

    i am not coming on here to gloat over your defeat after all for your 1st venture into the CL you were indeed given a tough draw unlike the other lot who's group contains at least 2 pub teams and just about scraped a 3-3 result.

  • Comment number 87.

    Tevez was one of my favourite players in the EPL but now he is just a disgrace to football. He should be fined on a weekly basis for not cleaning his shoes etc. It seems City try and accomodate his every need and this is how he repays him so i'd put him in the under 18's for the rest of his contract. (That's what I do in champ man - they don't like it! ;))

  • Comment number 88.

    " Man City could have sold Tevez by dropping the asking price, especially given the fact that they're far richer than Arsenal."

    spot on!

  • Comment number 89.

    A very poor article.

    Based on what both player and manager have said on previous occasions, I can safely say without prejudice that I can trust neither.

    If you don't like Tevez, you could have said so in one sentence, instead of the bias drivel you've wrote.

  • Comment number 90.

    "homesickness, general unhappiness in Manchester, missing his family"

    Are these not pretty much the same thing?

  • Comment number 91.

    I can't believe some are supporting Tevez by saying you can't blame him as his heart's not in it, he's homesick and missing his children.

    What has that got to do with his attitude on the pitch or, in this case, not quite on the pitch?

    Millions of professional people have to deal with personal issues away from work, but they put them to one side when the boss asks them to put in their shift.

    Professionals aren't paid because they can do a job. They're paid because they actually do the job required from them.

  • Comment number 92.

    It's a combination of poor man-management and a lack of professionalism. The club ultimately has to take the blame for failing to set clear standards of behavour

  • Comment number 93.

    Few if any people seem to be mentioning one crucial point. That is the legal situation: if Tevez refused to play he has to be in breach of contract. Mancini is his boss and he refused a request from his boss to carry out his work when asked. One would expect therefore that Tevez can be dismissed and is liable to forfeit salary and to repay the club for any monies received from yesterday on, as well as other penalties. I recall Adrian Mutu was sacked by Fiorentina (I think) for drug abuse and seem to remember he had to pay them vast sums.

    The problem with this of course is that players are such valuable commodities that if City sack him, they lose a potential transfer fee. This is why sackings are so rare-think of the amount of players who have ben to jail and whose clubs have stood by them. The clubs pretend it's sentiment, but really it's purely financial considerations.

    City do not need the money that said, so this case might just be different. But it does illustrate that players have all the power.

  • Comment number 94.

    Man U this... Man City that....

    BORING.

    There are 92 league clubs and all of them have fans who'd like to read about their clubs.

    Why endlessly bang on and on about just these two??

  • Comment number 95.

    Excellent blog Phil. Interesting that Tevez's comments this morning included an apology to Man City fans but not his colleagues or manager. Like debts in the world economy, Tevez is toxic and the at last the penny is dropping with Mancini. Amazing that only the other week he was still offering olive branches to this selfish b***. SAF knows a thing or two about players with egos and did well to ship him out of Utd. City should have bitten the hand off of anyone offering £20m plus this summer. Instead they have a negative influence in the dressing room. But theyre used to that arent they, having bought Adebayor, Bellamy and Ballotelli -the latter will be next to throw his toys out of the pram. This will be the reason City will not win the PL-too many egos on too much money.

  • Comment number 96.

    I could cope with missing my children. not sure I could cope with milner and barry getting a game ahead of me.

  • Comment number 97.

    75.kaufman39 wrote:

    Knee-jerk reaction mcnulty in full flow again. First declaring tevez's city career over (I bet he plays for them again).......
    ---------
    Hmmm, what odds and how much are you prepared to wager? :)

  • Comment number 98.

    "There was some confusion on the bench and I believe my position may have been misunderstood."

    Ah yes.

    "This is not the right time to get into specific details as to why this did not happen.

    Of course not. You're waiting for Joorabchian to write out a tissue of lies for you to spout off.

    If Tevez was in my charge I'd do all I could to destroy the git. I'd seek advice: was he in breach of contract. I would NOT loan him out since that's what he wants - let him train with the U16s and every day he doesn't turn up, fine him 2 weeks wages. He signed a new contract for a number of years - let him see it out. I guess I could get done on constructive dismissal so I'd get the legal department to see how far I could push it without falling foul.

    On a separate note, it seems Mancini will drop Dzeko this weekend. S'pose that makes Balotelli first choice on the grounds that he's the most mature striker after Aguero. Crickey!

  • Comment number 99.

    I've thought from the start that if he wanted to go so badly he should buy himself out of his contract. Could he even afford that though? His extortionate wages are the reason he can't leave and now he has made it even harder for himself with these antics. I admit to enjoying his football when he was at United but I always felt there must have been a reason Sir Alex didn't go to more lengths to get him permanently. He is obviously a very troubled character.

    I think City should just make him rot away in the reserves (but then what effect will that have on the younger players around him!). It's a hard situation to be in, but all parties have brought it upon themselves. I do hope City get rid of him though. It's the ultimate disrespect to the fans by refusing to play.

  • Comment number 100.

    Oh dear. 'Welcome To Manchester' the banners proclaimed in a cheap bid to wind up their 'upper-class' neighbours. Still a welcome available for Joorabchians un-saleable puppet is there?
    He sulked on the bench at OT when left out towards the end of his second season(no doubt because SAF was aware that he wouldn't sign a contract, no matter what was offered), whilst Kia was probably wording up the Arabs of the impending availability of Tevez for £25m, plus the rest if this article is correct http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_city/article6831582.ece
    "Now is the winter of our discontent" LOL

 

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