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Taylor made for Wycombe

Paul Fletcher | 10:43 UK time, Wednesday, 17 December 2008

Peter Taylor was naturally disappointed after Wycombe lost their unbeaten League Two record at Aldershot on 6 December.

Wanderers had played 18 games before the 3-2 reverse and were the only team in all four divisions not to have tasted defeat.

But after thinking about it for a while it occurred to Taylor that his team's unbeaten record had become a motivating factor for opposition teams. Perhaps the defeat wasn't such a bad thing after all.

"Now people cannot say any longer 'let's be the first to beat them', that has gone out of the window," Taylor told me. "It might do us a favour."

taylor438.jpg It is classic Taylor. An ability to pick out the positives and an infectious enthusiasm for the game are core characteristics of his varied and colourful coaching career.

The 55-year-old has managed in all four divisions and won five Football League promotions. He gave David Beckham the England captaincy during his one game in temporary charge of the England team and has had two spells as coach of the England Under-21 team.

And through it all his approach to management remains the same.

"You look at your squad and put a team together as best you can with the players you have got and then go from there," said Taylor.

It might sound simple, perhaps too much so, but don't be fooled for at the heart of it all is Taylor's desire to improve his players. The training pitch is where he feels most at home and watching a player blossom is what gives him the most satisfaction. There is nothing better than giving a player an idea and watching him implement it on match day.

One example might be Wycombe winger Matt Phillips. Taylor was a winger himself with the likes of Southend, Crystal Palace, Tottenham and Leyton Orient and is keen to pass on his knowledge to a 17-year-old, explaining when a situation lends itself to a shot or would be better suited to picking out a team-mate.

Taylor has a reputation for working well with younger players and was extremely popular, as well as successful, with the England Under-21 team. He still receives the occasional text or phone call from some of the players, many of whom are now seasoned full internationals.

But Taylor is keen to stress that he enjoys coaching older players as well - age to an extent being of secondary importance but a desire to improve paramount. The manager points to Wycombe midfielder Gary Holt. "He is 35 but a serious pro and I enjoy working with him."

His affinity and closeness to his players - I get the impression he is at times more mentor than manager - can lead to problems. Sometimes players forget that there has to remain a divide between the manager and his squad.

"That has happened to me a few times," said the Wanderers boss. "Because I try to be close and friendly sometimes they get the wrong idea."

Taylor learnt about the dividing line from Terry Venables, who he cites as a key figure in his career along with Malcolm Allison and Keith Burkinshaw.

Venables enjoyed a great rapport with his players - Taylor describes him as a brilliant and funny coach - but if he wanted a training session to be serious he made sure his players quickly got the message.

Taylor started his coaching career at Dartford in 1986 and the experience he has gained has taught him many things. It makes his job easier in some ways but some things arguably get worse over time, such as delivering bad news - releasing a keen young player or leaving someone out of a big game.

Team spirit is important to Taylor and dropping a player can inevitably impact on harmony within the squad. But Taylor argues there is a "thin line" in terms of what reaction you are looking for. "Do you want a player happy or miserable to be left out? If he is unhappy and you have a bit of a ding dong, then I would probably respect him more for that." taylorbecks438.jpg

It all ties in with the broader theme of professionalism. Taylor recently gave a presentation at Ardingly College in Sussex during which he told the listening students that it was not just ability that took players to the very top. They clearly have tremendous natural gifts but they are also extremely dedicated to their profession and take their lifestyles seriously.

It was part of what made coaching the England Under-21s such a pleasure. The youngsters Taylor worked with knew that the rewards of the senior squad were one step away and were highly motivated as a consequence. Sometimes a player would be given a chance and it would encourage his friends to push on even more. To Taylor this is the Under-21 system working as it should.

But the Wycombe boss is also keen to stress that there are plenty of dedicated professionals at Adams Park and believes the standard of football in League Two as a whole has increased since he was last in the division with Hull in 2004.

After taking over in the summer Taylor studied the previous season when the team had just missed out on promotion, losing to Stockport in the play-offs.

He decided the team did not score enough goals and lacked wide, quick players. The manager reckons the former remains a problem - his team have scored 38 goals in 20 league games - but he has brought in more athletic players to try to make the team more dynamic.

It all seems to be working well and the Chairboys have a six point lead at the top of League Two, something that the manager reckons at least gives him the breathing space of a couple of slip-ups. Taylor is keen to stress caution, trotting out the age-old mantra that there is a long way to go, but he is predicting a division where the points divide between top and bottom at the end of the campaign is larger than recent years.

Before accepting the job at Adams Park Taylor received a couple of phone calls from what he describes as "good managers at good clubs" asking whether he would consider being their assistant. Taylor is a big advocate of a young manager bringing in an experienced assistant. "Nine out of 10 will have good contacts and even though what they might say will occasionally hurt they will be honest with you. The last thing you want is a younger yes man." Taylor cites the relationship between Phil Brown and Brian Horton at Taylor's former club Hull as a good case in point.

The Wycombe boss thinks his career will eventually go down this route but is hopeful this lies some way in the future. At the moment Taylor is having too much fun chasing another promotion.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    Nice Blog, nice guy, nice.

  • Comment number 2.

    Taylor has managed some teams higher and lower and I'm impressed he went to League two again. Some managers that fail at teams should consider regaining the basics and moving down the leagues in order to get a good record going again and to have a go at promotion. Good luck to Taylor

  • Comment number 3.

    Not that Taylor failed previously as said in the article. Its just that some people around the premiership that have failed at teams should consider going to lower leagues to have another go. I hope Ince does this and learns more on where it went wrong, etc.

  • Comment number 4.

    It's interesting that the article makes no mention of the utter devastation that Taylor inflicted on Leicester City during his disastrous reign there. He was without doubt the worst manager in the club's history. His disastrous record of buying poor players for huge fees and putting them on highly-paid long-term contracts nearly drove the club out of business. He also has a less than impressive record at certain other clubs.

    I'm not saying that the positive aspects of his career should not be mentioned, but this article is so genuflecting and one-sided that Taylor might have written it himself.

  • Comment number 5.

    I will never understand how a coach as brilliant as Peter Taylor is working at the level he is (no disrespect to his club). I have watched him over many years, and I believe that his philosophies speak for themselves. I can only come to the conclusion that it must have something to do with the politics within the game (as in the case of another brilliant coach; Stephen Constantine). I was invited to watch him coach a few years ago, but unfortunately I couldn't manage to get the time off. I only wish I had the opportunity now.I wish him only every success, which he has proven he so richly deserves.

  • Comment number 6.

    A Good article Paul,

    Id have Taylor as the manager of my club anyday of the week ,I really like him as hes done very well at a a lot of different clubs, and I really admire the man for dropping back down the divisions to manage?! As a lot of managers, where thay have managed at the top or high up, are unwilling to drop down divisions, especially to the basement league, to manage again, most will just sit around and wait for another big job to come calling or knocking?!

    I was especially admirably of the job he did with the England U21's, and its nice to hear that some of the players he coached and helped to bring thru still give him a phone call occasionally?1

    I wish the man all the success?!

  • Comment number 7.

    Peter Taylor destroyed the work of Martin O'Neil at Leicester in 18 months which is a fantastic achievement by anyones standards. He also managed to steer Leicester to a spectacular defeat at the hands of the mighty Wycombe in the quater finals of the FA cup which was undoubtedly the most abject display by a Leicester team that I have ever witnessed, and that includes the 'glory' days when Mr Pleat was in charge. Neither could be trusted to run the bath for the players after the matches let alone manage the team!

  • Comment number 8.

    Orlando James - Leicester and Crystal Palace rate as the two failures of his managerial career.

    In terms of this blog I kind of see the Leicester story as a whole separate issue of which Taylor played a part during his time in charge at the club. I'll be looking to address Leicester very soon, with an interview with Chris Powell lined up.

    This piece is more about what makes Taylor tick, particularly with regard to his job at Wycombe. That is why there is no mention of Leicester or Palace - or indeed Brighton and Gillingham, both of whom won promotion when he was in charge.

  • Comment number 9.

    True Paul,

    every manager has their ups and downs in management, they cant exactly be a phenominal success where ever they go

  • Comment number 10.

    As a Gillingham supporter I have to agree with orlandojames.

    At Gillingham, Brighton and Wycombe he inherited good teams from Tony Pulis, Mickey Adams and Paul Lambert respectively and although there was promotion in two of these cases, in neither did he prepare the sides for the next step up.

    He stayed one year at Leicester, Gillingham, Brighton, Crystal Palace and Stevenage and at all these places never really had a rapport with the fans.

    However he was a raging success at Hull where he started with a poorly run club at the bottom ( rather like the England Under 21's were) and achieved success.They looked up to him and he responded magnificently to send them up through the leagues to the brink of where they are now.

    Yes he is very good with players who he can help and coach. He is poor at dealing with big egos-(Leicester at that time) and "helpful" Chairmen like our Paul Scally and Simon Jordan. That's why he is best with young players and those from non league.

    That is where he started and learned himself and that is what he is successful at passing on.

  • Comment number 11.

    A very good article and I have to say I am very impressed with Taylor thus far. He sems to be doing a good job with wycombe and undoing some of the bad that previous managers have inflicted since the O'Neill days.

    with regards to the Mikemh comment I think your patronising use of the word "Mighty" is very disrespectful to Wycombe and uncalled for, and remember we also run Liverpool close that year in the semi's. Yes Taylor has made some mistakes but he has also had far more successes and is obviously a very competant coach and manager.

  • Comment number 12.

    Thank god we lost before Christmas though. Under John Gorman we were 21 games unbeaten and top at the turn of the year.

    By the end of the season we hadn't won in 13 and missed out on the play-offs.

    There were extenuating circumstances though I guess...

  • Comment number 13.

    "He stayed one year at Leicester, Gillingham, Brighton, Crystal Palace and Stevenage and at all these places never really had a rapport with the fans."

    When he arrived he got on very well with us, due to his success as a player at Palace.

    However before long we slipped towards the bottom, the performances were dreadful, the football boring, and above all, the excuses bordering on pathetic. His obsession with playing favourites (such as his son-in-law Stuart Green - decent though he was) didn't help his popularity rating, either.

  • Comment number 14.

    May I add though, that I still respect Taylor and am happy to see him doing well. I think most Palace fans were genuinely gutted that it didn't work out for him at Selhurst.

  • Comment number 15.

    Sorry, is this the (supposedly impartial) BBC, or the Peter Taylor fan club?! If he gets another premier league job it will be a travesty and he will take them down. He rode Martin O'Neill's coat tails for half a season at Leicester (playing his team in his formation) and then promptly became the worst manager we have ever had, or could possibly envisage when he tried to implement his own 'ideas'. He is a total clown. I cannot wait to hear his excuses for his times at Leicester and Palace. And why he gets credit for one game as England manager and being OK (drawing a lot) with a prodigiously talented U21 team I don't understand. Oh yes, it's because he has friends in the media writing this tripe!

  • Comment number 16.

    Maybe I'm not remembering this right, but Martin O'Neill realised that he had taken Leicester as far as he could and jumped ship.

    I am sure that O'Neill came back in for a lot of his old Leicester players- Guppy, Lennon, Matt Elliott- and signed them for Celtic. Leicester also sold Heskey to Liverpool.

    Basically I remember the heart of that Leicester side being ripped out before Peter Taylor took charge properly and him losing players that were loyal to O'Neill - he had to try and rebuild the team from scratch and it didn't work. His transfer policy didn't work but he had a hard act to follow and those players didn't help him by leaving pretty quickly for bigger things.

    At Palace he had a good start and then the side went into the doldrums - to be honest it has followed a similar pattern under Warnock which shows that with certain teams and players you can get good performances out of them on a short term basis but in the long term it evens itself out.

  • Comment number 17.

    Peter Taylor had been a hero as a player with Palace so got a good initial reaction from the crowd as 'one of our own' coming back. He then got us playing lovely little triangles of passes which looked great, but totally lacked any bite, which is why he could only ever achieve mid table with us.

    He clearly has a great talent as a coach, which showed itself with the U21s and Hull in the lower divisions. But, he doesn't seem able to cope if it does not go according to plan. His takeover at Leicester started well (they were top of the league as I remember it) but when they stalled he didn't seem to have any plan to stop the rot.

    My opinion (and I am a fan of him as a player and as a person...) is that he cannot cut it at the highest club level, but that he is a natural as an international manager, where he doesn't

  • Comment number 18.

    An actual Peter Taylor quote: "£5m may seem a lot of money, but the Wolves chairman assured me Ade was worth £5m and so I was happy to pay it."

  • Comment number 19.

    have to manage the club as well (was the rest of the unfinished sentence)

  • Comment number 20.

    Its funny, I could have sworn that just 7 days before the "mighty" Wycombe Wanderers beat Liecester, Liecester themselves had beaten Liverpool 2 - 0 to go joint 3rd in the Primership. Not bad for a manager that failed, in a club that would have bitten your hand off if you had told them in September that they would be joint 3rd in March.


    The biggest problem Taylor had at Filbert Street, and it is the same shadow that has hung over many a manger at Adams Park, is that of Mr Martin O'neill.

    O'Neill, as well as being an outstanding manager knows when he has taken a team as far as that club can go and that its time to move on. Most teams Liecester and Wycombe included, (celtic aside where I left for more porsonal reasons iirc) have struggled since O'Neill left them and have gone back to their more natural positions in the footballing table.

    You would have to be a seriously good manager to be able to follow him at any club and come away wth any sort of good reputation intact. And if you were that good, you would be Managing one of the "top 4 clubs" by now.

    Taylor has had his failures sure, but compared to his fellow managers, he has had a hell of a lot of success too.

  • Comment number 21.

    Thanks Paul, another really good blog entry.

    As a Palace supporter, with a heap of promising youth players, I was dissapointed that Peter Taylor didn't play more of them when he had them.

    Perhaps they were just a bit too young during his reign, but Neil Warnock had no fear in playing them when we looked safe last season (and in fact the emergence of this talent propelled us all the way to the playoffs from 2nd bottom).

    You touched on his time at Hull briefly, and I can't help wondering what would have happened had he stayed in charge of them rather than leave for Palace?

    A great guy (saved my local team, Dover Athletic, from relegation one year) but no more than a Championship manager in my opinion.

    Like ChristalPalace, I was genuinely gutted that he didn't do better at Palace, not least because of how nice a bloke he is.

  • Comment number 22.

    I'll always have a lot of time for Peter Taylor.

    As a 10 year-old, I was writing a primary school football magazine - I wrote to him at Southend United when he was manager there, asking if he didn't mind us sending him a short questionnaire. He went much further than that and invited me and a friend down to watch the team train, then go to Roots Hall to interview him and to get a little tour. He was under pressure at the time (got sacked 4 days later, obviously I was the kiss of death!), but still gave two 10 year-old kids a half hour interview, introduced us to Simon Royce, Chris Powell and Ronnie Whelan (I'm a Liverpool fan, that was massive). Signed photos, photos on the pitch etc.

    Despite what happened at Leicester, he did take them top before it went wrong. He was a huge success at U21 level, and has generally done well wherever he's been. Add to that his enthusiasm for young players, and caring about the community surrounding the club, I can only hope that there are more people in football like Peter Taylor.

  • Comment number 23.

    I'm a Hull City fan and Peter Taylor played a huge part in our sucess to date. He arrived at Boothferry Park to a huge reception from the Kempton and promised success; something he did not deny us.

    A man of dignity and honesty, a nice bloke to speak to when I had a chance and a good football manager. Wycombe have an exciting future with PT at the helm.

    I can't say a bad word about the bloke.

  • Comment number 24.

    A few more managers with the integrity and honesty of Peter Taylor and fewer of the journeymen manager types that proliferate the Premiership / Championship.... Messrs Allardyce/ Pardew/et al would be a refreshing change from this talentless merry go round.

  • Comment number 25.

    a fairly boring and pointless article as it is basically a drooling fan-piece. Just a run down of his career and a few 'facts' and quotes that show why Taylor is such a great coach and all round great bloke. Utterly pointless. And I'm a Wycombe fan. A far more interesting article would be an analysis of why Wycombe have started so well then plumetted in recent seasons, and why Taylor will avoid the same fate this time. Or why Taylor had drifted so much, or why he bailed on Stevenage. It makes out Taylor is some kind of coaching guru, when in fact he is a coach/manager that the jury is still out on.

  • Comment number 26.

    this seems to be a somewhat one sided piece extolling the qualities of peter taylor.

    having seen the way taylor rocked up at stevenage and did an absolutely pathetic job, ruining the teams playoff chances, and seemingly not really giving a toss, there are plenty of negatives that have been quietly ignored.

    & stating you will come back to the utter disaster of leicester etc in another piece is not good enough.

    i expect the bbc to be impartial and not blatantly 1 sided as this piece appears to be.

    if his success is to be crowed about then his failures should also be mentioned not totally ignored as many comments have pointed out.

  • Comment number 27.

    Taylor has an excellent track record as a manager. He also does a wicked impression of Norman Wisdom. What more could you want?

  • Comment number 28.

    Subterranean

    No you are definitely not remembering it right!!

    O'Neill bought Lennon from us after Taylor had been in charge for a good few months, we also got around £6million for him, which considering we bought him for a pittence from Crewe was pretty good.

    Yes we sold Heskey to Liverpool but we got £11 million for him, so you can hardly say we were down in the doldrums when Taylor took us over.

    Also, Elliott stayed with us through thick and thin - he was a hero and did not go to Celtic.

    Basically, as another poster has said he had the majority of O'Neill's team (Flowers, Impey, Savage, Izzett, Sinclair) and he played the team in O'Neill's old tactics. And THAT is why he took us anywhere near the top of the Premiership.

    Also, he spent around £24million on new players. He used the money that we had got from players like Lennon and Heskey and threw it down the drain. So please, please don't be apologists for the man regarding his time at Leicester City. It was an unmitigated disaster, and it had nothing to do with O'Neill's tenure. O'Neill left the club in a great state and Taylor ruined it.


  • Comment number 29.

    Btw Paul, I am not trying have a moan that you're not mentioning his failures.

    Fair enough, as you said you're talking about what makes him tick re-Wycombe. It's a good article.

    I just felt the need to respond to ANYONE defending Taylor's record with Leicester...he obliterated all the work O'Neill had done.

    And then Harry Bassett finished us off.

  • Comment number 30.

    Dave Bassett / Mickey Adams / Craig levein / Rob kelly / Martin Allen / Gary Megson / Ian Holloway and Nigel Pearson......
    ..recognise them.

    Yes, they've all had tremendous success since O'Neill and Taylor were at the helm at Leicester.
    Hey, may as well blame 1 man though, it fits the agenda so much easier and keeps the flames of rage burning!

  • Comment number 31.

    Post 16

    When Taylor took over Leicester he still had the core of the team. O'Neill took Lennon with him to Celtic for 6 million pounds, and Heskey was eventually sold to Liverpool for 11 million pounds. But Izzet, Sinclair, Impey, Savage and Collymore was still there.

    And on top of that he spent millions on utterly hopeless players and gave them massive contracts, most notoriously Ade Akibiyi. We were mugs and Wolves took advantage of us.

    Whatever you say about the man, you can't deny the fact that he was the core reason Leicester started their free fall and are where we are now. Taylor was utterly useless and nearly put the club out of business.

    O'Neill left the club in a great shape and the man ruined it in 18 months which is a remarkable achievement.

    I accept that Taylor was a success story at other clubs like Hull City, but he merely found his level there.

    But as Oasis said, nobody can even try and defend Taylor disastrous era at LCFC.

    The free fall started there, and its just now we are starting to recover..

  • Comment number 32.

    eckyeckyecky:

    As I said, he was the core reason we started to go downwards and find ourselves where we are now.

    Do not try and defend Peter Taylor and his reign as a Leicester City manager. He was not cut for that level and nearly put the club out of business.

    And with all due respect to Wycombe, there is are a reason he is managing them at League Two now.

    He was bad at Palace as well, but that ended with a less devastating effect so he can be forgiven for that.

    He has been good at Hull, Wycombe etc at that level, which is fair enough.

    He is and will always be a lower league manager.

  • Comment number 33.

    Fine lower league manager (except for Stevenage, thanks Peter!) but never shown he can step up to the top two divisions at club level.

    Good coach of young players - glad you mentioned Phillips - he looked a real talent when he played against Barnet earlier this season and saved a game we were winning comfortably until he came on.

  • Comment number 34.

    An interesting blog, Paul, but far too one-sided.

    I'm (another, sorry) Leicester supporter who looks back at Taylor's time as the beginning of the end. Yes, O'Neill had taken them as far as he personally felt he could but spent little money and left Taylor a fantastic legacy.

    Granted, Heskey and Lennon were sold, but the £15m+ those two sales yielded was squandered in the most irresponsible way by Taylor on players either not up to the mark (Ade Akinbiyi, Junior Lewis) or 'ones for the future' (Trevor Benjamin - £1m?! and Kevin Ellison).

    I think there will be fans of the other clubs he managed who might agree that his record is more often bad than good...

  • Comment number 35.

    He's one of the games most lucky managers.

    At Hull City, he used all his luck for the future 10 years. He was very lucky that Stuart Elliott got us out of trouble on many an occassion. he scored 30 goals in Lge 2 an then 30 goals in Lge 1. I'd hate to say we were a 1 man team, but most games we were unfortunately.

    He then bottled it in the championship, as he knew he was out of his depth at that level.

  • Comment number 36.

    I would love to know what some of these bloggers do for a living and how I can comment on their `successes and failures`.Everybody makes mistakes but I firmly believe Taylor has been and continues to be a very successful manager.
    Fortunately for a lot of people that have made their feelings known we have no access to their career history and are therefore unable to pass judgement.

  • Comment number 37.

    Paul - read Brian Clough's (RIP) Auto Biogaraphy and his comments about Peter Taylor's friends in media being responsible for his metoric rise up the coaching/management tree and it is a perfect summary of this man's lack of ability in spotting good young players.

    As far as I am concerned I will always remember him as the man that paid £5 millon for Ade Akinbye one of the greatest ever TERRIBLE buys - Enough said!!

  • Comment number 38.

    Yeah well done Peter Taylor! Successfully managed to ruin Leicester City! Thanks Pete, it'll be mentioned next time we play Wycombe or whoever he next destroys.

  • Comment number 39.

    Very surprised at the comment from the Stevenage fan that Taylor "ruined" their promotion chances. Is that the same Stevenage side that lost 5 or 6 of their best players to Gillingham and that Taylor was expected to rebuild with no funds and no time?
    Yeah, the guy's not succeeded everywhere, but he's got a very good record when you look at his whole career.

  • Comment number 40.

    Post 36 - Thats like saying "Why are you complaining he missed an open goal, i don't see you being a professional footballer"

    The reason he is at a League 2 club is not because he is humble but because the bigger clubs know that he is a liability with money and struggles in the top 2 divisions!

    And as for Leicester, when you make a profit of £18 mill on players you got for pittance then it is a wonderful opportunity for the club to push on, but he absolutely blew it on players who were not up to it - Akinbyi and Junior Lewis for Heskey and Lennon is no fit replacement, and to be honest i think this season is the only time we've had a left winger worthy to lace Guppys boots!

    Post 30 - True, but if Taylor had done a decent job in the first place then neither would they have been appointed but they would also have had sounder footing.

    However, for all his shortcomings as a football manager he seems a decent bloke so i can't fault him on that. Be interesting to see what the Leicester articles like.

  • Comment number 41.

    Peter Taylor took over Leicester after Martin O'Neill, who is one of the best managers in the business. When he left for Celtic he took his Captain, Neil Lennon with him. Anyone who ever watched Leicester knew that every second pass went to Lennon. He was the heart and soul of Leicester and when he went the team failed. While I agree that no one player should ever effect a team when he leaves, you only need to look back 20 years with Man Utd and Bryan Robson. If Bryan didn't play then Man Utd played badly.

    Give Taylor a bit of credit and look at the records of the players he bought. They were all decent players before joining Leicester. I suspect that at the time he wasn't used to dealing with huge, overinflated egos. Why does nobody ever blame the players for failing to perform? With supporters like I've seen here Leicester deserve to have 35 managers in 5 years.

    Go for it Peter!! I think you're excellent. I thought Ollie was good too but somehow Leicester sucked him under as well. Something wrong with the Leicester setup? Nah.. couldn't be. Damn, should I be this hard on a team I support?? Yes, most definitely.

  • Comment number 42.

    Taylor Completely Destroyed Leicester City, Its as simple as that.

    As said earlier he wasted money on terrible low league players (Ade Akin'bad buy') and was the catalyst for where we are now.

    I'm not even going to waste any more time on P.Taylor, the main points have already been adressed above.

    I Look forward to reading the interview with Chris Powell.

    Up the Foxes - I'm Backing Ince to go back to Swindon!

    Uncle F

  • Comment number 43.

    Post 31: Almost forgot. Yes, Leicester are just recovering but that isn't difficult in League One. Taylor left when they were in the top league. If you get relegated after getting promotion (C'mon you Foxes) will Peter get the blame? When you lose to a non league team in 15 years will he still be to blame? Yes he wasn't terribly successful but he's been gone years. Find another gripe to bite on.

  • Comment number 44.

    He took Hull City from the bottom division (where we'd been for about 10 seasons)into the Championship and we were sad to see him leave for Crystal Palace. Top bloke, good luck to Peter and Wycombe.

  • Comment number 45.

    To the Leicester fans criticising the purchase of Ade Akinbiyi, yes it is easy to say that with hindsight but at the time Ade had several good seasons in the Championship (or Div 1 as it was called then).

    Therefore, it was not completely unreasonable for a Prem team to take a chance on him - a bit like Pompey took a chance on David Nugent. Yet you don't see Pompey fans saying Nugent was the worst ever purchase even though he cost more.

    In terms of transfers, the one consistent blot on Taylor's copybook is the belief that Junior Lewis had the ability to be a professional footballer (let alone a Prem 1).

  • Comment number 46.

    Why no mention of Junior Lewis in the article, without him Peter Taylor would be nothing, come to think of it neither would Junior Lewis.

  • Comment number 47.

    Whilst I feel his management record speaks for itself (mixed success, notable failures), I'll never forget him referring to Doncaster Rovers as a "pub team" just after we got promoted from the Conference, shortly before we subsequently beat him to the Division 3 (League Two) title in 2004.

    I also recall him getting sent from the dugout when we played them that same season (and won) due to some rather unprofessional goings on, shouting at everyone.

    Unlucky Peter.

    I don't wish him any ill and he's probably a nice bloke on a personal level, but the idea that he's some kind of managerial saint is wildly inaccurate.

  • Comment number 48.

    8. At 1:01pm on 17 Dec 2008, Paul Fletcher - BBC Sport wrote:

    Orlando James - Leicester and Crystal Palace rate as the two failures of his managerial career.

    "In terms of this blog I kind of see the Leicester story as a whole separate issue of which Taylor played a part during his time in charge at the club. I'll be looking to address Leicester very soon, with an interview with Chris Powell lined up."

    The truth is, Peter Taylor was shown up for what he really is at Leicester, a classic buller.
    He talked the talk, said all the right things and then proceeded to turn a fairly useful Premiership side into a laughing stock, bankrupting them in the process.
    Some of his inspired signings were
    Ade Akinbiyi – He was unable to hit a cow's rear with a banjo.
    Junior Lewis – Plucked from obscurity by Taylor at Gillingham, brought to Leicester, as a replacement for Neil Lennon, and he was conspicuous by his absence in midfield .
    The list goes on but most of these players he brought in were all on huge contracts.
    The man, IMHO is a charlatan and as Wycombe will soon find out, he will not take them anywhere near the promised land of League One as they start to slide down the table.

  • Comment number 49.

    I'm eating my words following my noisy disappointment with his appointment at the start of the season. I would still contend that his fixation with Junior Lewis has to stop (he's dragged him too all 7 clubs he's managed at), as generally Lewis is a terrible player. I'm also concerned with losing Scott McGleish which I think was a personality clash, but then again, when there's trouble with one player and the manager, its got to be the player that goes, no matter how good he is.

    Saturday, away to Shrewsbury, I think this will be where Taylor's boys have to show their mettle.

    Up the Chairboys!

  • Comment number 50.

    Cynicall_Sid - it's ok, we slip down the table from a dominant Xmas position every season. It's tradition.

  • Comment number 51.

    As a Leicester fan I couldn't help commenting on this.

    Lets just make one thing quite clear. Yes, Leicester still have a short spell at the top of the table under Taylor, but they lost the last 11 league games that season (a club record) and the writing was on the wall as soon as he started dismantling O'Neill's side with his own signings.

    Yes, O'Neill is a hard act to follow, but Taylor destroyed Leicester in a year to the point of relegation and bankruptcy. There is not an eleven year old anywhere in this country, playing football manager on his playstation, who could have done any worse than Taylor did during his Leicester reign!

    Right having cleared that up I have cogitated for a while on why Taylor seems to do well some places and not others. The answer: he's an excellent coach!

    Look at the teams he's taken over. They've all had good players that he's made better and they've initially done quite well (even Leicester and Palace). Then analyse these same clubs once Taylor has started bringing in his own signings and building a team (more a manager role). They've generally gone backwards.

    The only exception would be Hull City, but even there he inherited a talented bunch of under acheving players, at a good set up, with a very supportive chairman.

    If my theory is correct then expect Wycombe to do well for a while yet then, if he stays, they'll start to go backwards like a ball gaining acceleration as it rolls down a hill!

  • Comment number 52.

    A lot of comments on here about Taylor's failed time at Leicester. To me that was indicative of where his strengths and (more importantly) his weaknesses lie:

    No doubt Taylor is an excellent coach - one of the best around. He's also a very popular figure in dressing rooms and is good tactically. However, at the top level it takes a few other things, where he was lacking:

    1) inability to deal with big egos: possibly because he's too nice
    2) inability to spot talent at the top level: too many of his Leicester signings were lower division players who he thought he could train into top flight stars. Sometimes that's not the case - you have to have the inbuilt talent as well.
    3) Lack of a dominant personality: for me when things are going well at your club, Taylor is an ideal manager - stable, popular, always wanting to improve his players, always thoughtful and energetic. But when the going is bad you need someone who's going to be a true leader of men to pull you out of the mire. For me Taylor never showed that at Leicester.

    It's interesting the point he makes about being approached to be a number two by some Prem clubs. When my club (Everton) was looking for an assistant last season I suggested that Moyes should get Taylor in. As it is I think we've done well getting Steve Round, but ultimately I think Taylor would be a great sounding board and counter-point to any hot-headed young manager at the top level (Ince springs to mind: massive mistake having that idiot Archie Knox on board)

  • Comment number 53.

    In response to post 37, Shaunthefox:

    "Paul - read Brian Clough's (RIP) Auto Biogaraphy and his comments about Peter Taylor's friends in media being responsible for his metoric rise up the coaching/management tree and it is a perfect summary of this man's lack of ability in spotting good young players.

    As far as I am concerned I will always remember him as the man that paid ?5 millon for Ade Akinbye one of the greatest ever TERRIBLE buys - Enough said!!"
    ---------------------------------------------------

    Shaun - you muppet: that is a different Peter Taylor entirely! How can you make that mistake? The Taylor who was Clough's assistant died about 20 years ago!

    Can we please stop posts like this getting on the boards: it's one thing when people have rubbish opinions - they're entitled to that. But when they don't actually know the subject matter they're commenting on it's just embarrassing!

  • Comment number 54.

    Yes,here here post 53.Re Shaun (the muppet) post 37. How can he possibly thnk Brian Clough was referring to the Peter Taylor in this article?
    Obviously very well up on his football knowledge.Oh no-sorry, only needs to know how to slag people off

  • Comment number 55.

    Peter Taylor's Black and White army!

  • Comment number 56.

    Peter Taylor is motivated by watching players of any age implement something new into their game. This is one example of the mutually beneficial work that he has always done. First as a player helping the team and then as a coach.
    Another blogger mentioned Why does he not coach higher?
    I believe he coaches where he wants to and is shrewd enough not to be looking for simple money and prestige as the ONLY motivating factor.
    Peter Taylor thanks for helping Gillingham in 2000/2001..

  • Comment number 57.

    I'm sitting here in France reading all these comments and I can't really see the point of it all. It seems to me that PT is doing great for Wycombe. If he's made mistakes elsewhere, so what. Maybe he has learned from those mistakes. Doesn't anyone who takes their job seriously?

    I'm just glad we have him as manager.

    Good luck in 2009.

  • Comment number 58.

    Just one more thing. Martin O'Neill was a legend at Wycombe and I find myself supporting any team he manages when watching games on TV. There is absolutely no point in comparing any manager with him; it's enough to frighten any potential manager from coming to Wycombe. Surely though, PT is the best we've had since the great man. Sanchez was good while we were winning. Hopefully we won't have to discover if PT can handle missing promotion this time.

  • Comment number 59.

    Peter Taylor is a good manager but was a real let down for Palace, Leicester and Stevenage when managing them

    A joy for Hull with 2 promotions and his job was done there! The Under 21's he was yet again fantastic and now with Wycombe it looks like easy promotion! Don't let the excitment get to you Wycombe it is very easy to slip!

  • Comment number 60.

    as a leicester fan i cannot help but remember his words when signing his new 5.5million pound striker

    "he scores all sorts of different goals "

    this yes was adey akin bad bye

    a good player with the ball in front of him but short of a good touch, poor in the air ,not proven at the top level ,and i could go on for a page or 2

    some years later he was asked why he paid so much for poor old adey

    the answer was "i didnt want to pay more than three million but wolves wouldnt sell him "
    he then went on to say" anyway we had stan collymore at the club at the time so i didnt need him to score goals "

    if you have time think about that answer then you will know just how good P.T. is at playing the transfer market

    the name Borat springs to mind

    that said i do feel he is a decent coach ,not as good as john robertson but good .
    so as long as he has players better than the other teams he is playing he will do well all of the teams he has done well at are lower level , and are big fish at that level so it is easy to have a good squad top level forget it unless martin o is going to be his assistant

    so kanshamesh pete

  • Comment number 61.

    Only just saw this. Have to concur with all other Leicester fan's posts. Nobody here will ever see any positives about Peter Taylor. Not long after he had signed Ade Akinbiyi I happened to speak to a Wolves fan through work, he said selling Akinbiyi to us for £5m was their compensation for inheriting Mark McGhee from us (sleeping giants and all that).
    As for Mr Akinbiyi, would you say he was as much of a flop as Roger Davies in the 70s?

 

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