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Mark Kermode Mark Kermode | 10:45 UK time, Friday, 19 October 2012

Prometheus was a big disappointment for some of you but I've always liked it. Now that it's out on DVD and Blu-ray has anyone changed their mind?

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  • Comment number 1.

    Ive always liked the film,possibly because i didn't hype myself into it being an Alien Prequel,just a film set in the same universe

    I did buy the 3D Blu Ray,partially because of the extras,partially so i had a 3D version if the mood took me to want to watch it

  • Comment number 2.

    Sorry Mark - it's still not a great film. Poorly drawn characters that frankly I couldn't have cared less about; no genuine surprises or shocks; corny and somewhat incoherent story full of a tabloid understanding of science and cod philosophy.
    Yes it's well made and, in places, beautifully shot but that's just window dressing.
    It remains for me a $130 million good B movie. Sorry.

  • Comment number 3.

    I haven't changed my mind, I loved it when it came out and I love it now. By no means is it a perfect film, I mean what was the point of Charlize theron other than to look good? Why have they taken rag tag crew of misfits on a 'Trillion Dollar' mission instead of earths finest?, Why do they have the 'Mapping balls' here and not in Alien or Aliens?.
    However the performances are fantastic the CGI is intergrated well on screen, and the story is not a typical join the dots happy ever after.
    A film I will happily watch time and again.....

  • Comment number 4.

    I didn't catch Promthesus at the cinema so the DVD was my first first and after having my expectations of it tempered by the poor mixed reception it recieved at the cinema I can safely say that people's disappointment in the film had nothing to do with pre release hype and everything to do with the fact that it's a rubbish film with an absolute stinker of a script

  • Comment number 5.

    My opinion of Prometheus hasn't changed. I have always liked it and yet I decided to buy the 3D edition for the extras, which I probably will never get round to watching anyhow.

    The film is a brilliant attempt at trying something different and kudos to Scott for not falling into the familier trap of repeating himself. In fact, in my ignorant point of view, isn't it better just to watch the film for what it is, and leave the mysteries and questions unanswered? Take for example Sergio Leone's Once Upon A Time in America; to this day many people debate the film's ending, but does the unanswered ending take away the fact that the film is masterpiece?

    Also I know its not the topic but the fact that most of the extras were released only on the 3D Blu-Ray is a major attempt for Fox to push the 3D viewing figures up. Either that, or Rupert Murdoch is really angry at the world for hating him.

  • Comment number 6.

    I liked it first time around and saw it twice in the cinema. I wasn't privy to any of the virals or trailers before hand. (but I sought them out afterward) and bought the 2D Blue Ray. I don't want all the questions answering. I want to figure it out myself. I like movies that open up the door to your own imagination. Need more big mystical Sci Fi worlds in the cinema.

  • Comment number 7.

    I actually liked a lot prometheus when it came out in cinemas, and revisiting it recently actually made me understand better the movie. I feel like you Mr.Kermode the movie had its flaws, it wasn't amazing but it was definetly worth it and opened a new window on the alien universe, of which I am a huge fan. Once again I agree with you in saying that the 3D wasnt good at all.

  • Comment number 8.

    It'll go down in my memory only as the first (and last) 3D film I have ever seen. I was too shocked by the downwardly spiralling quality of the viewing experience to really appreciate the film, and the words "puppet show through a dirty window" kept popping into my head.

    Thankfully I'd already seen it in 2D at the lovely Screen on the Green in Angel. I've also seen it on DVD. And what is obvious is that Riddles is still an incredible director who can make beautiful looking films, HOWEVER: the script was jarring, the acting (bar Fassbender) cheesy, and was scuppered by obvious studio interference.

    A quick search of bits that have been cut out show a more interesting story (in which the aliens descended from the mutated crew of the Prometheus), but was cut to ribbons and reshot by a studio who wanted to capitalise on all the hype by squeezing out a few sequels out.

    Studio interference in a Ridley Scott film? Who would have thought it.

  • Comment number 9.

    I think that it's an easy film to be disappointed by - even having avoided trailers and pre-release featurettes and massive expectations beforehand, the film begun with extremely lofty ambitions, and it never came close to matching up to the questions that it posed at the outset.

    On second viewing, I suspect I'll find it a lot more enjoyable having now accepted that it's an extremely silly B-movie with extraordinary visuals.

  • Comment number 10.

    Alien is my favorite movie and Prometheus is a sort of "coup de coeur" (yes i'm french) a solid sci-fi movie with great cgi, interesting story and some good characters (David especially played by a wondeful Michael Fassbender). However my problem with Prometheus was the lack of character development, it should have been better. The first time i saw it, i immediately loved it but at the same time i was disappointed because i was over-hyped and because of how good Alien was. The second viewing was better, i had a better understanding of the story and i enjoyed it even better. I got so mad when people started to say how bad it is, simply because they didn't understand the story well. When Alien came out in 1979, it received negative reviews, it was the WHAT??? that annoyed people and now it's a masterpiece. Prometheus is kind of the same thing with the "WHY???" but in time it will have the recognition it deserves !!! Sorry for bad english

  • Comment number 11.

    I actually saw Prometheus 6 times at the cinema, including the midnight screening, and, as one might be able to guess, loved it from the very first time I saw it. Being a massive fan of the Alien Franchise (well, certainly of the first 3, i particular parts 1 and the much underrated part 3) I loved seeing so much that was abandoned from the original script in there, including some idea of Giger's for Dune.

    I bought the £70 collector's set with all of the Alien films, t-shirt, etc, and having gone through the documentaries and the deleted scenes, all of the answers to the questions are in the film, but in the editing of the film, they removed scenes that wold have pressed some of the points home a bit more and explained why characters were the way they were - I think that it is a film that would benefit from an extended edition (although by the sounds of it, this isn't going to happen). But I also feel that it is a film whose reputation will improve with time and will also improve with the sequel(s).

  • Comment number 12.

    Unfortunately, prior to the film's release, I did see the trailer. Many times. My expectations were ridiculously high. You can imagine my disappointment when the first reviews started appearing. However, in the end I was grateful for all the negative press, as it lowered my expectations to a more reasonable level, setting me up for a great cinema experience. Maybe all the ideas didn't stick, at least not as well as the copious amounts of gore to the Giger-esque interiors

  • Comment number 13.

    Unfortunately, prior to the film's release, I did see the trailer. Many times. My expectations were ridiculously high. You can imagine my disappointment when the first reviews started appearing. However, in the end I was grateful for all the negative press, as it lowered my expectations to a more reasonable level, setting me up for a great cinema experience. Maybe all the ideas didn't stick, at least not as well as the copious amounts of gore to the Giger-esque interiors, but it was great sci-fi nonetheless, and I am very much looking forward to seeing it again in an upcoming screening at my university.

  • Comment number 14.

    I wasted my money going to see the pseudo religious rubish in the the cinema, I am not going to waste more money buying the DVD .

  • Comment number 15.

    I don't think I've ever been so surprised by an audience's reaction to a film. I thought the film was spectacular the first time and many viewings later. Much more original, insightful, thought-provoking and exciting than the oscar-nominated Avatar. The flaws that people dwell on seem quite trivial and insignificant. Almost everyone I know enjoyed the film immensely, so maybe the critical types are just more vocal?

  • Comment number 16.

    I was one of the many people who bought into the hype when Prometheus came out and I also one of those who became disillusioned and disappointed after watching the film. I can't remember a movie making me that angry before. I knew there was a good movie in there somewhere but it had been severely cut by the studio (probably to get more bums on seats and therefore make more money) and as result the story/plot and all the characters suffered from it. After watching the dvd i still feel the same way and after watching all the 'deleted scenes' i feel justified in my initial reaction. There are so many moments in the deleted scenes which make much more sense to the overall arc of the story and the characters (in particular to Guy Pearce's and Logan Marshall's roles). Furthermore the action sequences are much more dramatic especially the engineer hunting for Naomi Rapace and Sean Harris attack on his crew-mates. Why, why, why were these cut in the first place!!!! What Prometheus is crying out for is Ridley Scott's directors/extended edition. Only when all the deleted scenes are replaced and we see the whole of the story and the various depths of the actors characterizations will I say Prometheus is a good movie.

  • Comment number 17.

    Well MrMoneypenny I went to a packed screening at the biggest cinema complex in Glasgow and the air of gross disappointment on leaving was ubiquitous. I was with a large group and "rubbish" was the BEST that anyone could say about it. But each to their own I guess.

  • Comment number 18.

    Come on, Prometheus was a over blown mammoth of a film. I addmit The first half was brilliant but the second half septacularly failed to cash any checks the first half wrote. The writing was terrible, plot hole redden and just insulting as it seemed more concerned setting up a sequel than telling a good story. In my opinion, Scott did a great job, all the blame goes to the writer. A film that starts bad and stayes bad is one thing but a film that starts good then turns bad is ten times as worse.

  • Comment number 19.

    I am happy to say that I was waiting for this film and hyped it up so much. Did I enjoy it yes. Was I disappointed? A little maybe but I was well aware I had set myself up for any fall. I have watched the film again on beautiful 2D bluray (i did get the 3D version for the extras, lets not go there...)

    At the end of the day for me the film holds up. Its entertaining, looks great and I look back on this film fondly because its really not often a film arrives with such hype as Prometheus did. Is it so bad if one film a year can interest and excite you in the way they did when you were 12 and everything was cool!?

  • Comment number 20.

    Still feel the same way about it: flawed but not as terrible as many make it out to be.

    My main issue is how for many viewers to be able to go see the film we wanted to see we will now have to cash out money for the special DVD as well as the cinema tickets. Ridley Scott seems to do this with every film he releases and I'm getting sick of it.

  • Comment number 21.

    No, I did not see it and hopefully will never see it. I've read and seen enough "secondary evidence" for reasonable prejudice to watch something else. I've been lately finding documentaries incredibly worthwhile (eg Jiro Dreams Of Sushi, Colombian Jails, A Murder Of Crows etc). And this is a contrast to one of the things I do not like about movies. Let's take Prometheus as an example:

    1) Story Premise is already done in 2 prior films.
    2) Franchise is trying to bolt on a pseudo-mythopoeia to 1. horror movie 2. action movie which incidentally have aliens and sci-fi settings.
    3) One of the key errors of action sci-fi films is the people of the future who are elite examples on screen, act like a bunch of teenagers all through the film (no disrespect to teenagers!).
    4) Added to 3) it's acceptable to add lost-esque speculations and conspiracy theories as basis for story because the movie runs at the standard 90-200 (?) minutes ie everything is left hanging, is acceptable because you have a captive, passive audience who don't have time to connect things before the next special effect/scrambled nonsense/next button is pressed.

    What I'm probably failing to suggest, is that for some a movie world experience is acceptable entertainment and possibly what makes movies sometimes so enjoyable. But for me, I find this distances me from the story the more the medium takes center stage, in this "movie world" =/= what if "our world"? Things that I am informed about in real life, are so lost in some of these movies. Something like that; net result: Disengaged. Some critter starts eating the face of someone, I just don't care, there were 20 good, positive reasons for it to happen vs the one negative reason for it to happen (it looks gruesome/disgust).

    So maybe that's my current reaction to enjoying documentaries at the moment so much. I usually find this film director Ridley Scott usually credits my "movie account", but I feel Prometheus would be a big debit (yet because Ridley Scott still has done awesome films in the past, he'd still be in credit) so I feel I'm doing Ridley Scott a favor not watching the movie (odd logic)! I think looking at Doc Kermode's review of "Wallflower" vs Peter Bradshaw's (!), the same would have occurred, and now again with Prometheus!

    Must Watch: Bradshaw on song: The Perks of Being a Wallflower - video review

  • Comment number 22.

    I liked it 1st time around in the cinema, Its not a great film but it is a very good one if you just take it at face value in that its a big hammy sci fi action film with a few interesting and thought provoking twists/red herrings and such thrown in to get your brain engaged.

    I'd like to own it on Bluray but i'm very hesitant to buy it as i'm expecting there will be an extended cut released at some point, Although saying that Ridley Scott has gone on record as saying there won't be an extended cut, but he is also on record as saying he has no probs with playing the marketing game to make as much money as he can for the studio, so i suspect there will be a longer release in 12 months or so when they start gearing up to make the sequel(Which i really hope will be directed by somebody like Duncan Jones instead of Mr. Scott).

  • Comment number 23.

    p.s. I found the 3d in this movie to be more distracting than engaging(not that ive ever found 3d engaging!).

    p.p.s although the opening shot following the river was very pretty in 3d(sorry Mark).

  • Comment number 24.

    I think the hype wasn't a factor as the Dark Knight rises had a similar amount of build up, it's just that its not a very good film, and i think the fact that the DVD is being sold on the "the answers are finally here" reeks of desperation from the film company to crowbar a big shiny pacifier until they can get the next one out.

    I worry that if there is another film thy won't address the main plot problems and instead fill it with explosions and Michael Bay-isms, being so dumbed-down and interfered with (Alien3 anyone) as to mar the Alien legacy even more.

    It's not as bad as Terminator 3 but not by much.

  • Comment number 25.

    Haven't watched it. Wasn't interested.

  • Comment number 26.

    Characters no-one cared about, internal illogicality, characters doing things for which they have no motivation, badly edited. This was not a good film. On the other hand; it looked glorious and the appearance of the chair/pilot was a lovely moment. But all this took place on LV223 not Lv426 so will the sequel take us to that point? I just hope it's better written. And Idris Elba never attempts that accent again.

  • Comment number 27.

    While it's true that high expectations certainly contributed to the disappointment, it's by no means the only reason. Star Wars fans had similarly high hopes for The Phantom Menace but you couldn't seriously argue that the negative backlash was only because expectations were too high. Prometheus, like The Phantom Menace, is just a bad film. The science is bad, the dialogue is cringe-worthy, the characters are clichés and their actions are implausibly stupid.

    I'm surprised that Mark wasn't more critical of Prometheus since it really is 'muppets in space'.

  • Comment number 28.

    I had much the same feeling as you upon release. A solid four star film, but I must admit I was initially dissapointed as I left the cinema, because I had lived and breathed the hype (there was nearly enough of it to breathe). The sad thing is, the hype worked, it got people into cinemas and that's all the studio will care about. Having lived with the film since release, there was a lot to like, and I did buy the full threed blu-ray (though watching in twod) and I'm keen to see the follow-ups. Lesson: never get too excited by hype, because the film Prometheus was in my head was great in extreme. Just as not even Citizen Kane IS Citizen Kane, you dream of a film that is good in an unattainable way because you aren't imagining specifics. Prometheus was fine, the weight of expectation, both from Alien fans, Ridley fans and hype addicts (in which groups I include myself) got too worked up and couldn't accept anything other than greatness.

  • Comment number 29.

    With Prometheus I was not expecting much from a new Ridley Scott film and I successfully avoided all of the clips and trailers so my disappointment in the film was not the result of over-hyping.

    The film was disappointing because the plot made absolutely zero sense and the script was appalling with people constantly explaining the meaning of life to each other.

    Also though it looked absolutely gorgeous that really isn't the point, the first run of alien movies had the impact because they looked grungy and dirty and were populated by real people doing real jobs.

    I will not be buying the DVD/BluRay as this film will enter the pantheon, along with Matrix 2 & 3 and Terminator Salvation, of films that cease to exist in my mind so as not to damage my opinion of the originals.

  • Comment number 30.

    I think ‘liked’ is spot on for Prometheus. Not ‘loved’, not ‘loathed’.

    Personally, the more I thought about the plot and themes the more I liked it. However, herein lies my problem with the film. I didn’t think it deserved the amount of time I invested in trying to piece it together…it was simply just too flawed. I liked a lot of the subtext subtleties and I admired Scott for not spoon feeding answers to the audience. However, the writing, (most of) the characters, and some pointless plot twists all result in what I consider, on balance, a mediocre film. A subsequent viewing served only to reinforce this view, I got a clearer picture of what is actually going on (edged me more towards the ‘Space Jesus’ theory!), but I found myself more frustrated than ever by the flaws.

    I think a lot of the initial negativity (especially the confusion from viewers too lazy to thank about a film) was unwarranted, but when all is said and done, I was still disappointed. Who knows though, maybe watching seven hours of extras will convert me!

  • Comment number 31.

    The problem was, and still is, the script. Sure, it was one thing to be wowed by the visuals and be swept along by Ridley Scott's film making but a script with half a brain and poorly conceived characters still jars. As a story and the way it's plotted the problems with Prometheus are worse than similar problems in Danny Boyle "Sunshine". Why assign a bunch of misfits and incompetants to such an important mission? Why didn't someone psychologically profile this crew? Was it designed to fail all along? Why invest so much in a plan designed to fail? For a full list of some of the really basic flaws in the logic and plotting, look no further tha Red Letter Media's funny sketch about the questions Prometheus raises...and no, the questions aren't deliberately ambiguous like "Once Apon A Time In America"; they're the result of poor thinking. If you need 7 hours of extras to explain what was going on in the movie and you need to provide an alternative ending, then the scriptwriters didn't do their jobs properly.

  • Comment number 32.

    I tried really hard to avoid everything to do with the film until it came out and really, didn't end up disappointed at all. I liked where it went, I liked the score, I liked the atmosphere and I liked the biblical feel it has. I loved that the main character is, for once, a religious character in a science fiction film who isn't painted as a baby eating lunatic. You could question her sanity by the end of the film, but she's presented for the most part as somebody not afraid to question her faith and the universe at large. I'm not particuarly religious myself, but I enjoyed that little break from the norm. Moreover, when I first saw the film, I'd not slept for well over 24 hours, so the nightmarish mood towards the end damn near did me in. Staggered out of the cinema, shaken. Went home, had a nasty dream about being crushed by a giant rolling croissant.

    Brought the barebones DVD. All I wanted was the film, honestly. Seen it twice at the cinema, twice in as many days on disc. Put it away for a rainy day. In short, loved it.

  • Comment number 33.

    Some people are saying they haven't watched it and have no intention too, which is fine, But why post!!!

  • Comment number 34.

    It wasn't just the hype about Prometheus, it was the hype that after nearly 30 years we were going to get a great Alien related movie. For quite a number of the fans of the original series, there has been nothing but letdown after letdown since the moment they killed off Hicks and Newt.

    Ridley Scott finally promised us something great, something new but fulfilling, with a strong story that would delve right into the depths of the universe, and the hype did nothing to dispell that. As it turned out it looked great but the script was non-existent, building up a character and relationship only to kill it off, only to randomly start conflicting David without proper explanation, without him actually being conflicted and with no higher power taking the lead. Guy Pearce did not suit his role, Lance Henriksen could have played it and delivered a very strong performance as he knows exactly how to play it.

    There was no ending to the movie, they just flew away, because of course in a sci-fi movie you can just fly away, seriously? There was little invention, little depth and frankly the film has made me want to feel that David is a cold, heartless and calculated machine that's redeeming features are poorly explained and a bit late in the day, and he's now also headless, I'm going to love the sequel's explanation to how they fix it.

    The one positive was Fassbender, and he should be nominated for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscar's. Noomi Rapace seemed to not fit the role and her character doesn't seem strong enough emotionally, I don't know if she can carry it.

    Ridley said that Prometheus was not Alien, and he's right, unlike Alien it wasn't any good. No fear, no drama, no story, no characters(just Fassbender's performance), no ending, no scary adversary, no direction. At least it was pretty though.

    Ridley let me down on this one. I think the Batman franchise and the upcoming Skyfall film will show that you need both the strong cast list AND a strong script to make a great big release film, not just one or the other. Nolan hit it on the head, Mendes did too, Scott has to deliver now if he doesn't want to lose his standing in the directorial world. His past interviews have told me he doesn't have the passion he should do for the franchise, maybe it's time another established director was given the reins and Scott take a purely advisory role.

  • Comment number 35.

    I saw the trails.. Was disappointed - especially as that great scene with the young Peter Weyland looked great and set it up so well, then didn't appear. I loved the world it created, from the first scene at the top of the waterfall - it just all looked so good - and it's not that it didn't have teeth, there are some great moments - but the teeth just didn't fit together that well.. And some were rotten.

    I saw it twice more at the cinema and it got better both times. I'm actually really looking forward to seeing it on DVD. It's the strangest film experience I've ever had.. A movie that is definitely flawed, but it seems I'm sort of addicted to it.

  • Comment number 36.

    Prometheus was an intelligent Hollywood summer blockbuster, the best one since Inception. Alien is by far my most favourite film, and when hearing the news that Ridley Scott would be returning to science – fiction to make a prequel to Alien, I was probably the most excited I could ever be for a film release. It was a fantastic effort, I saw it at the BFI Imax in 3D and couldn’t believe I was actually there watching it, and that after two hours it was all over.

    Inevitably I had huge expectations because I couldn’t resist watching all the trailers, and reading all the theories. After the screening I had so many mixed emotions, but after seeing it a second time on DVD I was so pleased that the film works. It’s much better in 2D, the visuals are just about perfect, the performances strong, and the script wasn’t rubbish at tall, it just didn’t answer many of the questions it raised, which is fine because we’re getting one, if not two more sci-fi epic’s to conclude the journey to Alien!

    Prometheus works best as a film that sets up a new universe, a new story, it’s opened its own door, to so many possibilities. Well done Ridley Scott, your best film since American Gangster, and one of the best made films of your career, I’ll continue to watch Prometheus and recommend it to others…I love cinema !

  • Comment number 37.

    All the hype didn't get to me because I'm not an Alien fan, for me Alien to work you can't know anything about it and you had to see it back when it was released because when I saw it I knew a lot about it (the chest burst, how Alien looked, who is android ext) and also I saw a lot of other monsters before Alien so there was nothing to shock me. Now back to Prometheus, I am waiting to director's cut version but I'm pretty much sure nothing can help Prometheus because it was a bad script. I want to say this, for me visually the movie is gorgeous and also I think it is the most beautiful movie Ridley ever made but that's just me as far as the story goes it is full of holes and as mark likes to say "all over the place" I don't think it's a bad movie I just now it could be a cult film if only the writers were not Damon Lindelof & Jon Spaihts

  • Comment number 38.

    I didn't find 'Prometheus' disappointing. I suppsed 'Alien v Predator: Requiem' could be classed as disappointing, but that film is fine late at night with a couple of beers inside you. At least AVP:2 honoured the franchise, had some internal logic and was reasonably scientifically plausible. 'Prometheus' is far, far worse than 'disappointing'.

    'Prometheus' looked great, any five minutes are brilliant, but six... seven and the appalling mess that it is becomes obvious. We should all have watched the trailers and never seen the film.

  • Comment number 39.

    It's disappointing, not because of hype, but because although it looks amazing, literally nothing about it makes any sense. Dr K, you like to say how Inception proves you should respect the audience's intelligence - but this film actively insults the audience's intelligence.

  • Comment number 40.

    I imported the UK Version to Germany because I couldnt wait for the german release in December. I still really like the movie! Even it has some stupid things in it. I bought the 3D BD because of the Extras. But I still hate 3D ;-)

  • Comment number 41.

    I was bitterly disappointed by Prometheus. Overall it's not a bad film, though the script was truly appalling in places, it was visually impressive and there were some great performances, particularly from Michael Fassbender (of course) and Idris Elba. Blade Runner (The Director's Cut) is my favourite film of all time, and Alien comes in pretty close behind it, so I expect a lot from Ridley Scott and this film (largely due to the terrible writing) did not deliver.

    That's not really why I didn't like it though, my problem is that despite not being a direct Alien prequel, it still uses and implies a lot about the imagery and background of the Alien films. I'm a massive Alien/Giger geek and I think the Alien creature is probably the most original and effective movie monster ever conceived (no pun intended). It taps into some really primal fears, the ones movie critics always talk about: such as rape and birth trauma, but also ones that people don't seem to mention such as the fear of the unknown. To me the Alien represents the cold faceless hostility of space (not giving it eyes was a stroke of genius) and the sheer vulnerability of humans within that inhospitable void. It's unknowability, it's Alienness, is a huge part of it's strength as a monster and to imply any kind of origin story really undermines it's effectiveness. To further imply that it shares it's creators with humans is a lazy betrayal of an intelligent audience, it was like finding out that Darth Vader actually built C3PO.

    Prometheus addressed themes which are themselves perfectly worthy and interesting, but it chose the wrong mythology to address them with and wasted a huge opportunity.

    Still better than Alien 4 though.

  • Comment number 42.

    I will admit that I enjoyed "Prometheus" the first time I saw it, but I eventually realized that it is, in fact, pretty terrible. The "scientists" act like a bunch of children on a school field trip rather than professionals attempting to make first contact with aliens, Charlize Theron's character is utterly wasted, the plot is ridden with holes so big you could probably fly the "Prometheus" through them, and it ultimately feels like an incomplete hodgepodge of poorly realized ideas with a disappointing sequel-bait ending.

  • Comment number 43.

    I have re-watched Prometheus and it's still very average. It's not horrible, but it doesn't advance the genre, which I expected it to, considering the pedigree involved. Otherwise, what's the point?

    Nothing innovative about Fassbender's potrayal of an android. Nothing startling about costume design, or set design, or creature design. Characters change their moral codes from scene to scene, depending on what the script wants. And considering the script lurches between melodrama and pantomime like a clown having a nervous breakdown, there's not much for anyone to work with.

    I don't agree that it is an introduction to a new universe, or a film that has to be taken in context of future productions. That's a terrible, terrible cop-out. It isn't 'introducing' anything that doesn't vaguely whiff of something you've already seen on the sci-fi channel.

    PS. Worst old man acting ever.

  • Comment number 44.

    2 more point I'd like to make with regards to Prometheus:

    1 - I think that a lot of people were disappointed by it because they went into it expecting an Alien prequel and not a film set in the same universe (I remember thinking when I first saw the film that "Ridley Scott really wasn't joking when he said it's not a prequel to Alien")

    2 - Prometheus is a far more important film, in my opinion, than people give it credit for. It's not very often that a major Hollywood studio would throw $130,000,000 at a project and let it be released as an r-rated film (15 here in the UK) which could dramatically reduce the box office takings by hundreds of millions of dollars! And look at how well Prometheus has done, better than X-Men First Class and other movies - it's made over $400,000,000 worldwide and over £20,000,000 in the UK alone. I think that this should be a good example to movie studios that they can release r-rated, big budget, event movies for adults, and still be able to make a very healthy profit. Hopefully it will serve to show the studios that they can allow their film makers to keep their artistic integrity, rather than having to sacrifice it for commercialism and profit.

  • Comment number 45.

    No movie with that many plotholes and logical cockups deserves a second viewing. Between Vickers being crushed by a large ring that Shaw easily evades with an injured roll to the right, a previously frightened scientist treating a cobra-alien like a kitten, and the crew's utter silence about Shaw assaulting two crew members and ripping an alien fetus from her stomach, how can anyone possible say, "Well, maybe you were overhyped!" I was overhyped; I thought Prometheus would be smart, terrifying, and evocative. But even if I'd gone in with no expectations whatsoever, watching Vickers try to outrun a narrow ring, rather than step two feet sideways, would have caused me to consider Prometheus a poorly-written, contrived waste of admission.

  • Comment number 46.

    I had zero expectations and I thoroughly enjoyed Prometheus. I'm surprised how much it's hated. I thought it was a good looking movie, with strong characters, an interesting story and good use of ambiguity. There's still a lot of mystery to not damage the franchise. I enjoyed the unanswered questions and the mystery of Prometheus.

  • Comment number 47.

    Prometheus was one of the few times in my life I've felt a film to do something that is exclusive to Movie-making in terms of power (on a par with the first time I saw The Seventh Seal), genuinely felt that nowhere apart from the cinema could get across the nuanced dimensions that it achieved. It is not a perfect film (the throw-down to David about his not having a soul in the first 20 minutes had me immediately expecting his first move against the crew), but if you went in, as I did, trusting Ridley Scott's word that this wasn't a prequel, merely a film set in the same universe, you got an intelligent, truly (and I don't ever use this word unless the definition is correct) awesome film.
    A lot of the negative reaction to it reminded me of the response to Kingdom of Heaven, the cinematic release of which disappointed because of (a) a miscasting of the lead, (b) politically sensitive and talent-gutting editing and (c) expectation for it to be as epic but ultimately 2D (no pun intended) as Gladiator. The thing that made KOH my favourite film bar none was Scott's Director's cut, with full performances, acres of needed back-story, Bill Paterson, Michael Sheen, Robert Pugh and David Thewlis all getting more screentime and the excellent script largely unedited.
    Sadly, though, for Prometheus I only own a DVD player not a Blu-ray machine, so I've got 5 unremarkable 'alternative' scenes and nothing else. Why is it that the BR releases have become so ludicrously indulgent, while those of us (and I'm a penniless research student) who can't afford a BR machine are left without greater insight to the films we want more of? Other offenders in this field for me include Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Prestige and Thor: Ridley Scott, Christopher Nolan and Kenneth Branagh are, for my money, the best three directors on the planet and seem like decent guys; why the gulf between those who'll pay more and those who can't?

  • Comment number 48.

    I find it hard to take seriously anyone who adamantly states Prometheus was a terrible movie, these people have clearly never seen a terrible movie before.
    Prometheus was a solid 7.5 with some interesting ideas and that unfortunately asked more questions that it ended up answering.

    I've got no problem with people who want to vent their disappointment a little, but when you deny that your own expectations are playing a role in your critique... well i'm afraid you may just have lost the plot.

  • Comment number 49.

    Now, I haven't got the blu-ray, so I can't really comment on the extra features. But, I will say this. If I'd re-watched the film, my initial reactions from the first time round wouldn't change a bit. I would still think it's a much better film than most people give it credit for. A good, proper, intelligent sci-fi film that had been created by someone who clearly loves the genre and its themes and conventions. But, what I love about it most is that it's a movie about ideas. Yes, not all of them work, but those ideas are still engaging enough to keep me drawn into the film. The special effects, however, is the movie's ace card and most biggest surprise. The makeup, and designs of the creatures and sets are visually stunning and breathtaking to behold, delivering the best effects I have seen in a long while. The performances are brilliant all round, with Michael Fassbender stealing the film as David, a robotic character who is just as flawed and damaged as his human masters.

    Overall, I can't understand why it is there's so much negativity towards Prometheus. I think it's because audiences were expecting a completely different film after being spoiled by so much hype from the mass-marketing. Who knows? All I know is that the film is definately one of my favourite films of the year and that I will definitely be buying the 3D Collector's Edition blu-ray for xmas, primarily for the 7 hours of extras I'm dying to experience.

  • Comment number 50.

    To be honest I never liked any of the previous Alien films (even the first two) so I went to watch it with zero expectations and it turned out to be one of the most enjoyable film going experiences I've had in the past few years. I loved every single bit of it from beginning to end.

  • Comment number 51.

    I've only just watched it the other night for the first time and thought it was a solid film, enjoyed it immensely. I have successfully avoided all of the hype and had no expectations going in.

    I brought the 3D blu ray, but watched it in 2D as I don't actually own 3D glasses (though I do have a 3d tv and blu ray player). Plus I'm largely with the Good Doctor on that subject. But according to highdefdigest.com, the film was done with the loss of brightness accounted for, and they've upped the brightness on the 3D transfer to compensate. I may have to invest in the glasses to check that.

  • Comment number 52.

    I had enormous expectations for Prometheus. I adore Blade Runner and Alien and the thought of Ridley Scott returning to science fiction with today's stellar effects at his disposal made me giddy. I was expecting a masterpiece. After months of waiting, my friends and I went to see it at a midnight showing here in the States. As we left the theater all I heard from people was how much they hated it but I actually quite liked it. It did not meet my lofty expectations but it was a good film at the very least. The design and cinematography alone made it a worthwhile viewing experience. It does have problems, which I'm sure other people will more than cover in the comments. However, compared to the trash that passes for sci-fi these days (Battleship and Transformers) it's a godsend.

  • Comment number 53.

    Prometheus is still the film I saw in the theater. It's visuals are undeniably gorgeous and the premise is unflinchingly ambitious. But Ridley Scott falls into the same trap that has claimed James Cameron, Quentin Tarentino, Tim Burton, and the Wachowski Brothers...let's paint a pretty picture at the expense of story and character development.

    Prometheus has numerous opportunities to develop multiple characters the audience could identify with but misses them all. Michael Fassbender was easily the most fascinating character in the movie, obviously done by Scott with intent, and is the most human. But you have other players who looked genuinely interesting, Charlize Theron, Idris Elba, Guy Pearce, Sean Harris, and Rafe Spall, yet Scott does nothing to develop them whatsoever. The palpable chemistry between Harris' geologist and Spall's biologist is completely wasted. The potential of Theron's character is ignored until a ridiculously missive episode she has with her father at the end that feels completely forced and flat out lazy. The romance between Noomi Rapace and Logan Marshall-Green is cliche and superfluous. Elba's hardness is never fully utilized, while the pilots quirkiness could've been used for comedic purposes or throw them in an action sequence like it looked they were destined for at the beginning of the movie. Prometheus on further evaluation is still a mediocre movie at best, George Lucas like in its inept execution at worst.

  • Comment number 54.

    Prometheus was one of the best films of this year i can see why some were disappointed but i do think they are not seeing the whole big picture yes its set in the same universe but because no one saw any of the classic aliens did that make it dissapointing no we all know there will be a sequel so maybe then some will be happy .. as for the 3d aspect again it will always be marmite to everyone i enjoyed it the blu ray set with all the extras is a must for a classic sci fi film with great acting and set pieces and of course the scene stealing Michael Fassbender. In short everyone can have negative thoughts but for those who can see what scott was doing then i am more than happy to revel in the whole story

  • Comment number 55.

    I hated Prometheus, and I wasn't a victim of hype. If anything, I had low expectations going in thanks to Ridley Scott's inconsistent recent output. I found it uninvolving, unadventurous and at times, downright stupid.

    However, my sister, with whom I saw the film, loved it. She has a PhD in neuroscience, and is in every way my social and intellectual better. She didn't quibble over the hare-brained pseudo-science of the plot, but enjoyed it as solid, sci-fi fare.

    Funnily enough, she was a few months pregnant when we saw it in cinemas, and wasn't at all squeamish during the surgery set-piece. Now she is a couple of weeks away from delivering her daughter by c-section (!), I bought her the Blu-Ray, and we watched it together. I still hate it, she still enjoys it, and is still fine about c-sections in general.

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  • Comment number 57.

    As a huge Ridley Scott fan (Blade Runner being my favourite film) i was quite excited for Prometheus. As a Sci-Fi fan i crave Intelligent, though provoking Science fiction. However Prometheus to me, seemed nothing more than an imitator of Intelligent Sci-Fi. The film Explored fascinating subjects but never developed on them. The characters are as two-dimensional as those from a B Horror movie. And There was no closure what so ever. Now i am all for a bit of ambiguity, but explaining nothing makes the film a mess of unanswered questions. In stead of giving more insight to the 'Alien' world, it just asked the same questions and answered them with more questions.

  • Comment number 58.

    I managed to stay well clear of all the hype and I still found it a disappointing and frustrating watch. I have since watched it on DVD and disliked it even more.
    It was trying to answer questions from Alien that I didn't want answering and even then it didn't answer them! The space jockey was a nice little throw away moment in Alien which suggested to something else and that was all it needed to be.
    For me the Alien story starts with Alien (the best of the bunch) and ends with Alien 3 (my favourite of the bunch).

  • Comment number 59.

    my pre-ordered !3D! bluray finally arrived as your video uploaded - so i shall get back to you on that 7 hours of extras - but this is easily STILL film of the year - looper didn't challenge it as much as i hoped it would - a lot of people will say the dark knight rises did - all we have left is zerodarkthirty/skyfall and cloud atlas - but i dont see them beating it - roll on the very promising looking 2013

    and i look forward to the next 2 films in the trilogy and hopefully they will be 3d just to annoy you

  • Comment number 60.

    I disliked the film upon first seeing it and my dislike has only grown since then. I wouldn't mind but it started out well, it looked fantastic (in 2D) and I found the character of David interesting. About a third of the way through the movie I was sitting there wondering what everybody was giving out about. Then the other characters came along with their inconsistent characterization and their gross stupidity.

    The thing that upset me most however was the abysmal understanding of science and scientists. The movie came across as if it wanted to be considered as a proper science fiction film (as in 2001) rather than as a space opera movie (as in Star Wars), yet often got the science wrong (or simply ignored it). They got the science so wrong towards the end that instead of being caught up in the drama and tension of the climax I was sitting there incredulous at what was happening and even laughed out loud at one stage.

    This movie treated me like an idiot and I actually resent it for that.

  • Comment number 61.

    Missed it at the cinema and watched it on dvd with the wrong sort of anticipation having read all the criticisms following it's release. It wasn't as bad as I feared the first time but trying to watch it again a few days later the flaws in the script become more apparent. Even viewing it as a standalone film without reference to the other Alien films it is a pretty poor piece of story telling.

  • Comment number 62.

    I absolutely love this film. I normally stray away from the hollywood machine and never found the avengers, TDKR or any other blockbuster to be remotely good. just cash cows in my opinion. I'm an independent film lover.

    But because I was so shocked and scared of Alien when it first came out I decided to go and see prometheus and it never disapointed me in the slightest

  • Comment number 63.

    Oh this is such a tricky topic to deal with.

    Yes, I was INTENSELY disappointed by Prometheus, and I must add that I had literally seen the initial 1 minute teaser once, and that was my total exposure in advance. In the interests of full disclosure, I must admit to being a recovering hype addict. I used to be total enveloped by hype, as I think a lot of movies fans were throughout the shift in exposure of movies that occurred as the internet bloomed, and DVD did nothing to appease the gluttony. I appear at age 34 to have finally grown out of this hype machine addiction that consumed me for a lot of my 20s, and am now seeing things as close to completely blind as possible. I saw one trailer for the Dark Knight Rises. I have yet to watch a full Skyfall trailer. (I was also intensely disappointed by Dark Knight Rises)

    Having said that, I don't think my disappointment with the film is due to hype, but promise. I think one could not have wished for a more enticing mixture of production elements: Science Fiction. Ridley Scott's eyes. Modern Visual effects, including WETA on creature duties. Not repeating, but expanding beyond the edges of the "Alien" universe. Neville Page and Carlos Huante as concept designers (two of my favourite humans in existence). Michael Fassbender! Guy Pearce! Idris Elba! Charlize Theron! Daman Lindelof, oh wait! Em, Jon Spaihts, aw phoey! No, hold on, Scott in the stretch of his career where he thinks his interest in a project is by itself an idea good enough to fill a film, no need for any other good ideas. Aw damn!

    I was glad for all the ways they pushed against the existing Alien mythology, and the endless possibilities that lay ahead, but frankly wanted more imagination, ideas and concepts further off the beaten path. I had said to a friend in advance "If the end of this flick is "Ta dah! Here's the Alien!", I will punch myself in the face". Admittedly the ending was "Ta dah! Here's an alien one step removed from THE alien! Aren't we clever?". I still haven't decided if I owe myself that punch in the face.

  • Comment number 64.

    Prometheus starts off brilliantly with some absolutely stunning cinematography of the Isle of Skye and Iceland. For the remaining 2 hours it's an absolute pile of excrement that makes no sense whatsoever, has some usually good actors and some rubbish actors playing stupid characters who are completely un-engaging doing stupid things while mouthing a script that only an imbecile could have written. It has crap aliens, no tension, and an ending that is beyond ludicrous and makes no sense whatsoever given what we've seen previously. What could have been good set pieces are directly lifted from Alien. Ridley Scott is a hack who should be forced into retirement before he wastes any more money ruining his threadbare reputation which exists purely on the basis of two films he made more than 30 years ago.

    I didn't like it. I still don't like it. In fact I haven't been this annoyed by a film since Alien 3.

  • Comment number 65.

    I loved "Prometheus" when I saw it at the cinema and I like it even more now. The only problem I have with the movie is that I think Ridley Scott should have made this and any subsequent sequels (with some tinkering to the story) completely separate from the "Alien" franchise. It seems to me that a lot of the disappointment and hate is stemming from the fact that people were expecting a much more scary/gory movie in line with it's predecessors rather than the high concept science fiction movie full of religious symbolism and unanswered questions they've ended up with. Everyone who has seen "Prometheus" probably has their own theory about what is going on and what is going to happen in the rest of the prequels. The main issue I have at this point is the difference in tone between the prequels and the original franchise. If it should turn out something along the lines of one of the engineers was space Jesus then attempting to marry this and other similar concepts up with Ridley Scott's original haunted house in space and James Cameron's high octane shoot-em-up fest is going to be near impossible without looking at least a little stupid.

  • Comment number 66.

    My opinion of the movie hasn't changed since I saw it in cinemas, I loved it then and I love it now. If anything, I actually like it more after revisiting it again on blu-ray. The movie absolutely holds up for me and is every bit as good as I thought it was while watching it in theatres. I understand some of the quibbles about the characters' motivations/decisions, but i feel like these are so insignificant compared to the overall story that they don't matter to me. Also, for anyone interested, some of the deleted scenes do provide some clearer explanations of characters' motivations, and I would've loved to see these scenes included in the final cut but it's by no means a deal breaker. Most of it can be inferred anyways.

    Prometheus is actually my favorite film of the year so far, followed closely by The Master. I think you're absolutely right Mark, people were blinded by what they wanted the film to be, and failed to see it for what it was and enjoy it on its own terms.

  • Comment number 67.

    I enjoyed the film in the cinema; Noomi Rapace almost innocent performance captivated me, the print was fantastic and I appreciated the nods to Blade Runner and Alien. I missed the hype and I don't think I ever even saw the trailer so if I had any expectations at the time it was probably at the low end of the spectrum considering Ridley Scott's recent track record. I was pleasantly surprised, but I do remember thinking that the film was very, very loud (I'm 30).

    I've watched it since on DVD and I have come to the conclusion that it is a really poor film. There are gaping plot holes in the narrative structure and Charlize Theron sinks the Prometheus faster than Orlando Bloom sunk Kingdom of Heaven. Her performance reminds me of the scene in Notting Hill where Julia Robert's character (an actress) has a role in some space movie.

    If anything, the film could do with a alternative cut with less action. It's just relentless and at times downright pointless. And it's still too loud. What happened to the 'in space no-one can hear you scream' ideology? My ears are still ringing and I owe my brain an apology.

  • Comment number 68.

    I haven't changed my mind on it: it still the most disappointing movie of the year. It's interesting for sure; visually it's stunning and there's individual scenes that are very fine when taken in isolation, like the surgery scene, or the opening with David alone on the ship, but on the whole it's a mess, and collapses spectacularly in the second half, with characters dissolving into a mess of contradictions, and scenes barely connecting.

    It's also rather stupid. You can basically sum up the entire theme of the movie as "How about those big questions, eh?" That's all Prometheus has to say, and it dramatizes that in the worst possible way. People stand around talking about how they care about the big questions in toecurlingly hamfisted ways, and nothing registers with them except the big questions. Not loved ones dying, not having aliens torn from their womb. The threat of the human species being exterminated briefly registers, but then the allure of those big questions proves too much and off they go, having learnt nothing. There's absolutely nothing recognizably human in the way Prometheus deals with its central theme, which was pretty juvenile to begin with.

    As a story, I can only think of Prometheus as a resounding failure, but it's so impeccably crafted that it wound up being a decent anti-narrative art installation, so ultimately I didn't mind sitting through it.

  • Comment number 69.

    How's this for a coherent reading of "Prometheus"?

    Remember Philip K Dick's novel, the source for "Blade Runner", was called "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". David the Android is fascinated by Shaw's dream in cryogenic sleep. So, he creates a dream state for himself, and the rest of the movie is his dream, and answers that question with "no, they don't dream of electric sheep, they dream of Space Jesus and magic goo that can detect sin at sixty light years."

    More to the point, in David's dream, he's quite superior to the humans, who are stupid and capricious, and he enjoys fooling with them. He also dreams his creator, in unconvincing old-man makeup, is on board, and his hubris comes a cropper when he meets his own creator. In David's dream, the humans are preoccupied with David's own issues as an artificial life-form with a short shelf-life - they keep asking "who made us?", which is a question that assumes we were made by somebody, and not a question any serious scientist would pose given current knowledge; and they want their creators to do something about their built-in obsolescence. In other words, they act like Roy Batty in "Blade Runner".

    I like this reading because it explains the way all the humans are mentally deficient and why the science is laughably stupid. However I don't think it's particularly revealing in any way about either the human condition or artificial intelligence.

    Maybe it's not what the film-makers intended, but since "Lost" turned out be be Jack's dream all along (or was it???) then who knows?

  • Comment number 70.

    I tried to avoid the hype with some small degree of success, and was a bit disappointed with the film when I saw it - but not for the same reasons as others have quoted. I knew what I was going to see at the time; not an Alien film, but possibly a new trilogy based in the same universe. What disappointed me was the lack of resolution at the end of Prometheus and the obvious setup for the next part (including the little "bonus" clip which I now hate for ruining the film completely as a standalone). It felt very sub par for Ridley Scott.

    That said, I re-watched the film last night (timely post, Doctor!) and I did enjoy it, had the same sense of frustration at the ending, but I think now that once Prometheus is seen in light of the forthcoming parts, it will knit neatly together and hopefully bring us full circle with Alien & Aliens and, to some extent, Ripley's concluding story in Alien 3 (I'm choosing to ignore Alien 4 ever existed and needless to say AVP just isn't in the same universe).

    I still think Guy Pearce was woefully underused despite his enormous talent and presence, plus the superb TED teaser he did for the film which made us think he would have a more central role. Fassbender was predictably superb and the TE Lawrence study a stroke of genius - but again, the ending left us with too many unanswered questions about his character. Maybe Scott is planning to address those in Part 2.

    One other reason I think Prometheus has been overlooked is of course the juggernaut that was The Dark Knight trilogy, which has launched our expectations of big summer releases into the stratosphere. Perhaps we won't be so hard on Prometheus 2 when its time comes.

  • Comment number 71.

    I saw the film twice, in 2D, at the cinema and loved it both times. I haven't rewatched it on DVD or Blu and I've no intention of buying the 3D Blu since I don't have a 3D TV (the work of the devil) and even if I did I'm not going to wade through seven hours of bonus content. And if you have to wade through the extra stuff to understand the movie then that's the director's fault for not putting the relevant material in the movie. Nor do I really care about alternate endings and beginnings. No author has ever provided alternate Chapter Ones oe Epilogues. No symphony has an alternate First Movement depending on what mood you're in. Pick one and stick with it.

    And yes, one of the factors in my enjoyment of the film was that I too avoided all the trails and articles and reviews and interviews and websites and blither. I went in as cold as I could, which is what I do for most movies. In the case of Prometheus they were so desperate to sell it that they gave too much of it away. That suggests either Scott or Fox's marketing goons didn't have any faith in the film.

    Meantime, Dr K, now the dust has settled, are you still of the opinion that John Carter is the worst film of the year? A year that includes This Means War, The Devil Inside and Battleship? Really?

  • Comment number 72.

    I hated it when I saw it at the cinema and I have recently seen it again on Blu-ray and, if anything, I dislike it even more. How a director of Scott's calibre gave that script the greenlight is beyond me. The film is a complete mess. Incoherent and stupid in equal measures. NOTHING makes sense. Lindelof should never be allowed behind a typewriter again. I have lost count of the amount of plot holes, stupid character decisions and inconsistencies in Prometheus. I'm literally stunned you don't think the same Mark.

    I love Scott's films (mostly) but he has lost the plot (literally) with this film.

    I hear that he wants the Alien and Blade Runner worlds to be connected. Thanks for ruining another masterpiece for me Ridley.

  • Comment number 73.

    Ok first- credentials. I'm an enormous fan of Alien series. I watched Prometheus several times in the cinema and have watched all 7 hours of extras + 2 commentaries, I even bought the book. This is how I see it.

    When Kubrick made 2001, the one thing he was unable to achieve was the creation of a convincing alien race, resorting instead on the now infamous monolith as a proxy. It's clear Ridley has always been enormously influenced by Kubrick (I doubt The Duelists would exist without Barry Lyndon). The premise of Prometheus was sold as 'we are going to tell the story of the Space Jockey', what has to be one of the most enigmatic creatures ever to be committed to celluloid, resting dormant in it's biomechanoid chair in the centre of Giger's unique imagination. We start with the one thing that even Stanley Kubrick couldn't conceive.

    Is it an interstellar farmer? What sort of society could do the space jockeys creatures exist in? Why is either ship that strange shape, grown and biological? Was the alien an interplanetary weapon or weedkiller? For me it was the promise of this world that Ridley was going to go back and build as only he could.

    Not to be.

    Unfortunately this 25 year old enigma evaporated the second Ridley decided that this centrepiece was simply going to be a large white man in a suit. Throw an Easter Island head in the mix, a few abandoned ideas about pyramids and sanskrit, and you've basically denatured the core of entire project with woefully weak ideas. Could anything be be less inspired?

    The extras show the artists and writers rankle as Ridley insists on this in spite of literally everyone hating the idea. He then adds insult to injury by insisting that the concept artists remove the Gigeresque biological elements (there's a token cap nod to Giger but it's clear they had no interest in involving him from the start).

    Yes, the film had great design and looked stunning at parts. Yes, Fassbender and Repace are great. Yes, it admirably had aspirations to deal with bold grand concepts (although for a second does Peter Weyland ever come close to eclipsing Roy Batty meeting his maker?)

    Fans can argue about the logical insistences, poor script, cheesy ending, but the real damage was done long before this and sadly it was all by Ridley.

  • Comment number 74.

    With Alien being in my top 5 movies of all time, I too avoided the pre publicity with all my might. I winced when I first heard they were making Prometheus, but upon hearing it was not a direct prequel, I decided to view it as a seperate entity yet could not help but get excited, and headed to IMAX as soon as I could book a decent seat.
    I was not just disappointed, but actually angry with what I saw.
    30 years they had to come up with the screenplay for Prometheus. 30 years!
    With all the genius and creativity of Scott and crew, knowing the fastidiousness with which the technical aspects will have been considered, and reconsidered etcetera, the 'flaws' are simply not that forgivable.
    A boom coming into shot, or the reflection of an HMI in an eyeball is forgivable. Having a group of 'brilliant' astronauts walking around the surface of an unexplored planet having left their helmets behind and reaching for creatures making aggressive postures is so distractingly stupid- the painful contrivances of the plot i would expect in the seventh season of an HBO series, there was no way I could be absorbed into the theatre.

    One of the most brilliant aspects of seeing Alien in my youth was the mystery of the Space Jockey. The bizarre biomechanoid fused to the machine unlike anything we could imagine. Oh, wait, its a bloke in a suit. Great, thanks for that.
    I will watch it again, probably a few times as there is so much delicious sci-fi detail to absorb, but really hope that as with Bladerunner, there will be a revelation in the directors cut.
    Dr.K, I can't help but think had this been made exactly the same but by Zack Snyder you would have rinsed it.

  • Comment number 75.

    Personally i loved Prometheus the first time around.I told many people to just go and see it with an open mind, put Alien out of your head and take it for what it is. I still say the film will play better when the sequel arrives as this is just act 1 of a 2 or 3 act play in my opinion. I've ordered the 3D blu ray to watch again asap, not because of the 3D version of the film but because this is the only way to see the documentary on the making of it. What i'm looking forward to the most though is seeing it in Blu ray HD without the light loss of 3D.

  • Comment number 76.

    I quite liked the film when I watched it at the cinema, I was taken in by how great the film looked. On second viewing i have developed some serious problems with the film. It still looks amazing it is beautifully shot and framed. But, the plot is an absolute load of old tosh. Lindelof has tried to engineer a film that asks more questions than it answers. How has done this, by producing a plot that is completely nonsensical, that makes no logical sense.

  • Comment number 77.

    What I really want to see now is Ridley Scott direct a film where the plot has been written by Christopher Nolan and the dialogue by Joss Whedon. (Oh, and cinematography by Wally Pfister, naturally.) Because I thought that all three of the big movies this summer were flawed: they all showed off the strengths and weaknesses of their "name". Prometheus was by far the best directed film, Dark Knight Rises at least had a plot (even if it eventually falls apart), and Avengers Assemble had no plot and horrible direction but the characters "sang" in a way that both P and DKR would have died for - and that's allowing for the fact that both DKR and AA were built on pre-existing characters.

    Prometheus fails because the story relies on the characters doing incredibly stupid things to make the story work, not by having the story logically arising from their plausible actions. For me, this becomes more glaringly apparent after seeing it for a second (and third) time. It's still exciting to watch, and there is a sense of genuine peril at times (which was badly missing from DKR and AA), but there is no substance to it.

  • Comment number 78.

    What people seem to have forgotten is that the space jockey in 'Alien' is described as 'fossilised'. I have always taken the scene to be a way of demonstrating how terrible and indestructible the aliens (xenomorphs or whatever) are: presumably, the eggs have been there for a VERY long time, but they are still alive and awaiting a host. The real mystery of that scene for me is that no member of the Nostromo's crew expresses the slightest bit of surprise at actually finding - in the form of the space jockey - an alien creature, however dead he may be. Had humanity run into intelligent alien life forms many times before or were the Nostromo crew members too stupid to realise that, in making first contact, they had just become some of the most significant people in history? 'Prometheus' doesn't really answer that question in a particularly satisfying way...

  • Comment number 79.

    Who couldn't fail to be sucked into the hype machine that was Prometheus 6 months ago? the fantastic "Alienesque" trailer(s) which, if the film had lived upto, would have been mind meltingly good! alas it wasn't to be, but, I did really enjoy being back in the same universe.
    Now, after having to shell out for the £20 3D blu-ray, just so I can watch the extensive extra's and documentaries, some of the many complaints about Prometheus still apply, character background, edited out to maintain run-time and "pacing" would have made this movie a better one, and why no directors cut, sorry, extended cut with the alternate beginning and ending, with the character exposition thrown in?
    I'm waiting for a fan-edit to emerge (otherwise I'll try to do one myself) so I can compare the 2 versions. I suspect Scott will finally bow to pressure, and give us an extended cut in the future, much like he did with Kingdom of Heaven, which was so vastly improved, it's gone from being a so-so movie to a personal favourite

  • Comment number 80.

    Prometheus over Hyped, thats the understatment of the year. The problem was fans expected the film to be something it was never going to be - A new Alien Film.

    I really enjoyed Prometheus, dispite it poltholes (Vickers unable to side step a cash spaceship to name ust one), it was an itellgenat sci-fi tht asked to think big and ask bigger questions, and somethimes the questions are more important that the answers. I also found it had strong echos of Star Trek V and thats not a bad thing.

    As for the 7 hours of extras on the 3DDVD yes they are there so they can say that Promethus is the biggest saling 3DDVD ever, but how many people who buy the 3DDVD can watch it 3D?

  • Comment number 81.

    Always like Prometheus... Much better that many made out on release... I just hope Ridley Scott is allowed to make the other two films to complete the story up to the beginning of 'Alien'...

  • Comment number 82.

    *CONTAINS SPOILERS*

    I got it on DVD a day ago, and I've watched it once. My overwhelming impression can only be summed up in one word: MEH. I lost count of the numerous film references in it, including EVENT HORIZON, ALIENS, SUNSHINE, ALIEN (obviously :P) and many others. Instead of referencing other films why not carve out your own identity in this genre! It just seemed all over the place from beginning to end; utterly incoherent, with characters so one-dimensional you wonder why they bothered (the British geologist and the scientist with the glasses had DEAD MEAT on their foreheads). And why the hell couldn't they just have cast an elderly actor to play Mr Weyland instead of this absurd prosthetic mess walking around? I've seen more convincing prosthetic make-up on Star Trek! Was Ridley referencing 2001:A SPACE ODYSSEY, or was that just a real screw-up? The latter, obviously. Oh, and Charlize Theron's, umm, shall we say, departure from the film was one of the oddest death scenes I've ever seen. Odd as in rubbish.

    With some films it takes me more than one viewing to realise that perhaps I was wrong in my first impressions. But with PROMETHEUS I just don't think so somehow. It was pretty bad, and I so wish it could have been better. In fact, having got AVATAR on DVD as well, I have to say that AVATAR is a better sci-fi romp than PROMETHEUS is. Sorry Mr Scott I love your films usually but in this case you really did screw up.

  • Comment number 83.

    I loved Prometheus. I thought the people going nuts about "gaps in the story" or the constant questioning of how it fits in to wider story line with the alien movies or even blade runner (?) It dished out spectacle, pretty solid acting performances, managed to get a similar tone to alien, and didn't give me all the answers. In a way, its a film that actually needs a sequel, when does that ever happen? I tend to wait quite a while before I revisit films i really liked, makes the experience all the more amazing each time you do get to see it, so probably when the next one is out. Trailers do spoil some of the spectacle of some films, especially if they are good films, and you want to see them, with fresh impact on the brain, gonna avoid watching hobbit trailers, maybe just study the poster like the good ol days.

  • Comment number 84.

    I was planning to see Prometheus at the cinema - big Alien fan (who isn't?) and with Ridley returning to sci-fi to tackle a new story in the universe, it was always going to be high on my list. Then the trailer came out, and if trailers could be Oscar nominated then I would have the Prometheus trailer up against any full length film. And this was the killer, it promised so much and gave away everything (well not quite everything, once the TV spots arrived the last 10 minutes also became fair game, apparently).

    My wife and I have a small baby and so we kinda had one 'cinema pass' in the sense of babysitting facilities and so when the Prometheus reviews came out, we decided to go and see Dark Knight Rises instead.

    I finally saw Prometheus a few months ago on 'on demand' movie facilities in a hotel room in Louisiana. After all the positive hype followed by all the negative hype, my expectations were well settled. And I thought it was...ok. Not enough story, uninteresting characters, too many issues with the plot, versus amazing visuals, an amazing world and amazing invented fictional technology. No wonder the trailer worked well.

    So we bought the 3D Blu-Ray (for extras - of course we don't have a 3D TV or would watch in 3D even if we had one) and on second viewing - I kinda felt the same. Then when I started watching the special features I totally fell in love with it. I think it comes back again to the world and the ideas - not the execution. In fact, so many of the deleted scenes help answer questions. For instance ** SPOILER ** when they finally meet the engineer it felt so anticlimatic and (frankly) silly that he said nothing, punched them all and then took off. In the deleted scenes this moment plays out so much better, with David actually talking with him. It made Elizabeth seem less like an idiot to not start screaming questions at a mute baldy, that in the original scene she was incensed by the engineer's answers. That the symmetry between David>Engineer>Wayland is so much clearer here. And the original end fight between Elizabeth and the engineer...whilst not so missed as the conversation in the ship, still seemed like a shame so much went.

  • Comment number 85.

    Yes I have watched it again.“To see the film for what it is” Dr K asks? What IS it? That is the key question. Its really a dull retread of old B movie sci-fi conventions mixed with silly over familiar Erich von Däniken theories. Which wouldn't be necessarily bad if there was a modicum of talent on show in either the script or acting. Sadly its an ineptly plotted badly acted mess with scenes of monster action shoehorned in for seemingly no other reason than there has to be some scenes of monster action now & again. Even the usual impressive visuals from Ridley Scott are missing. The whole thing is dull from beginning to end, with zero character arc/development for the heroine; she starts the film wondering who made us & why and she ends the film STILL wondering who made us & why?!? The worst most yawn inducingly bland film I have seen in 2012.

  • Comment number 86.

    I can't help but think some "diminished expectations" are at work here when people say they like this movie. But hey, after those terrible Alien/Predator mash-ups and the bumpy road Ridley Scott's career has taken in recent years, how can they not?

    Prometheus is slightly better.
    Slightly.

  • Comment number 87.

    Like you, Mark, I've always liked Prometheus. I think this was because going into the film I was not the most exuberant fan of Alien, or Ridley Scott's work in general. I judged the movie as its own science fiction piece, and really enjoyed its suspense and cosmic themes. And I still like the movie; the plot moves quickly to direct my focus away from any nagging issues. And of course, the visuals are awe-inspiring and deserving of multiple Oscar nominations. So in short, not a disappointment for me at all.

  • Comment number 88.

    I'm gonna slightly backtrack what I emailed it months ago. It's not a better film than Alien. However it's a much much better film than Aliens, which I absolutely HATE. Prometheus is much more Blade Runner esq. than Alien which I like. I've always been the person who thought Alien 3 (albeit only in it's workprint form) is the best, most deep, interesting film of the series and I still think so. Prometheus is years to come will be reconsidered like Alien was but probably in the director's cut that will be done in 5 years. I've ordered the blu-ray from the states which has it on 4 formats (blu-ray 3d, blu-ray, dvd, ultra violent.... whatever that means) + it's slightly cheaper than the uk one and i'm very much looking forward to the doc.

  • Comment number 89.

    I liked it when I first saw it, and on the subsequent viewings (I've seen it 3 times). Like the Doctor, I avoided everything in terms of promotion and trailers. I've done this for a few years now. Firstly, trailers were ruining films for me. There are teasers, 3 different trailers, red band trailers, trailers focussing on different chracters and it gives too much away.
    When have high expectations ever been met?

  • Comment number 90.

    I really wanted to love Prometheus, and after seeing Total Film's 4/5 review I went to see it. Having now re-watched it (twice) all I can write is how disappointing the film is. The script is unbelievably bad, the plot convoluted, the attempts at profundity are laughable, there is absolutely no character development, no tension, and no scares. I found it cliched and predictable and a few tacked on gory scenes did little to boost my impressions of it. However, it certainly looks amazing and Michael Fassbender (as always) is terrific in it. A lot of fans of the film say us naysayers just don't get it, that it's not related to Alien (as if this in some way stops the film from being very poor), and that it's intelligent. I'm sorry, but it's just awful. And repeated viewings do not help.

  • Comment number 91.

    I think when a film comes out on DVD with an alternate ending AND beginning, you know that watching it again is not going to change your mind about how awful it is! I was dragged by my boyfriend to go and see this and I really did not like it. So many plot holes...so many ridiculous moments. I even remember turning to my boyfriend and saying 'why the hell are they running in the path of the spaceship which is about to crush them instead of sideways??!!'

  • Comment number 92.

    I saw this with massive expectation in 2d at my local CineMundo. I came away thinking it had a promising start but descended into a real mess of poor plot, script and characterisation. Visually stunning and faithful to the original Alien film but in comparison with Alien it shows that Scott is not the filmmaker he once was.
    I have rented it in HD from iTunes and having rewatched it, have exactly the same opinion of it as I did after the first viewing at the cinema.

  • Comment number 93.

    Best looking Blu Ray ive seen so far...by a distance.Cant understand the backlash to this film.Its (mean)STREETS ahead Avatar.The dialogue is alittle clunky in places, so for that its 9/10 for me.

  • Comment number 94.

    Never mind MY opinion of Prometheus - what of Paul W.S. Anderson's, I wonder?

    Archaeology, E.T. 'gods', real life movie clip, mission disclosed upon arrival, chalk & cheese team-up, CEO with ulterior motives, chestburst ending, Ian Whyte...

    Ring any bells...?

  • Comment number 95.

    I think the problem is always the Potential vs the Delivery.

    I spent the majority of this year trying my hardest not to judge things based on their potential, as everything has "potential", and it is easy to let your imagination create a plateau that can never be obtained. Sometimes a spade has to be a spade, no matter how long you've had to wait for it or how good the sales pitch was. It's not going to be anything else but a spade.

    Prometheus is an okay film - it's nothing sharp or original but it has a bite of its own. But on what I saw - it's alright. I certainly wouldn't say it was bad, but I see why others are disappointed. And that's a perfectly valid thing as well.

    I don't think there is a right way to categorise Prometheus, it just is. Like it for what it is or not, but compared to some of this years movies - it's certainly a long, long way from being bad. Don't let the disappointment make you take the other extreme, just take it for what it is.

  • Comment number 96.

    I still like it but can see why people have a problem with it, and its not just a case of them having seen trailers that showed all the best scenes.
    Most of the characters were one dimensional and the story had been done many times before
    ( even the first aliens vs predator film used the old idea of life on earth being seeded by aliens) also, unravelling the space jockey's story serves only to de mystify some of what was special about the first Alien film.
    The reasons i still enjoyed it are, the spectacle and the performances of Rapace and Fassbender, those alone made the 2 hours worth revisiting on blu ray this week.
    Overall though i worry the whole thing just reeks of cash at the moment, this fudge with the blu ray's being the latest opportunity for a milking.
    I hope the other two films have better scriptwriters and dont just fall back on unravelling backstory the way Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels cos this trilogy could end up as soulless an exercise as anything Weyland/Yutani could imagine.

  • Comment number 97.

    I always really liked the film and I bought the 3D blu-ray (purely for the extras). The commentaries and making of stuff do a answer a lot of questions but I don't think it'll be enough for most people.

  • Comment number 98.

    It is a lot better film than any of the Star Wars prequels but left me with a similar sense of disappointment. I'm now not very hopeful about the Blade Runner sequel.

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  • Comment number 100.

    I had extremely high expectations for Prometheus and was not let down in the least. It's flawed and I don't think it holds up to the level of Scott's earlier sci-fi endeavors, but I still think it's one of the best films of the year (I gave it 5 of 5).

    I also have my own theories of why some people not only hate the film, but make statements like "It's the worst film I've ever seen" or similar nonsense. I don't think (with some people) that it was the expectations, but the religious overtones of the subject matter. There are some people who are either so devout in their religious beliefs or the polar opposite (militantly aethiestic) to the point that the idea of man's origins being anything other than being aligned with their own ideas on the subject is enough to raise knee jerk walls of contrarianism to the film's premise.

    For me, it did what any good science fiction film does; it simply asked questions and presented fantastical hypotheticals. It was completely enjoyable. I'm a huge fan of Ridley Scott not only for having (maybe) the best eye for visuals in the business, but because he's a great storyteller. The film was suspenseful and built up to a fairly intense climax. Unlike many other modern filmmakers, Scott learned the business of storytelling before he started making films through his years of shooting commercials. He's an artist with a mind for presenting his story to the great unwashed masses. On that point, I was never confused by the story as so many others seem to have been, nor did I have to seek out supplemental material to understand most of the symbolic gestures/references/allusions/etc... And I'm just a dumb guy.

    Why anyone would complain about a film like Prometheus when there are so many more unworthy films to complain about (like Battleship or Taken 2) bolsters my theory of subject matter induced contrarianism... For me, anyway.

 

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