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Mark Kermode | 12:59 UK time, Friday, 1 June 2012

You responded in large numbers to the first Kermode Uncut Film Club choice of Breathless. Here I pick out some of your comments - negative and positive!

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  • Comment number 1.

    Bongo!

  • Comment number 2.

    * spoiler for the end of the video *

    Brilliant! I've been meaning to watch FWWM for ages, this is the shove I needed. Having only seen the first series of Twin Peaks, I wonder if seeing the full 30 episodes is a pre-requisite? I'll need more than 6 weeks if so.

  • Comment number 3.

    Is FWWM a pointless endeavour if the TV series completely passed me by? Cheers.

  • Comment number 4.

    @Ronan I would recommend watching the first 9 episodes of Season 2. That's where the Laura Palmer storyline stops. You could also watch the finale as well since I believe the movie has references to events in the finale.

    I would advice more people to do this. Watch Season 1 + first 9 episodes of Season 2 + finale before watching the movie. Seeing the movie without having familiarized yourself with the show in any way strikes me as a bad idea.

  • Comment number 5.

    Perfect timing, I am currently re-watching twin peaks. finnished season 1 last night. should be finnished with season 2 just in time to watch FWWM with marks intro!

  • Comment number 6.

    also in my opinion you can watch the film without seeing the series but it is much better if you have as there are so many references to it. but they are references for the fans of the show to add to the enjoyment of the film. you can watch it and understand the story without. as much as you can understand any lynch film of course!

  • Comment number 7.

    Another person who is pleased with the timing; I'm about half way through watching the second series and the film is being re-released in a few days. I've not seen the film before so look forward to seeing how it compares with the series... perhaps I'll order Breathless at the same time.

  • Comment number 8.

    fair play for taking it on the chin Mark, all in good humour of course, glad you bothered to read as far as #52 in the comments, off to watch Prometheus :)

  • Comment number 9.

    Somehow I knew film no 2 was going to be TP: FWWM. Having never watched it before, or indeed any of the Twin Peaks canon, I will approach it completely fresh - I resist the temptation to watch the original series, primarily as their really are only so many hours in the day but also because Dr K himself professes to never watch TV, so what's good for the Dr is good enough for me. Whether or not any of it makes any sense at all remains to be seen...but to my mind a film should be able to stand alone, even if it is a sequel/prequel.

  • Comment number 10.

    Fire Walk With Me actually comes out on Blu-Ray on Monday. Perfect timing.

  • Comment number 11.

    I've never seen Twin Peaks, does this mean I shouldn't bother with Fire Walk With Me or can it be understood and appreciated on its own merit. If it can, I'm up for the challenge.

  • Comment number 12.

    Oh alright then. Although I really didn't enjoy or rate TPFWWM the first time around, despite being a huge Peaks and Lynch fan, I'll give it a second chance, if only as penance for not chipping in my two penneth on Breathless which was one of my favorite films in the 1980's. (I still mean to post somewhere online my attempt to prove both Breathless-es of equal value, using maths).

  • Comment number 13.

    Never seen the TV series, but will give this a go. I am new to all this so when will we get Mark's intro?

    Thanks in advance.

  • Comment number 14.

    I can appreciate why many people are put off by FWWM considering how the series didn't abruptly end, but rather fell off a cliff. To anyone who didn't see every episode of the TV series, they would surely be lost as FWWM was made specifically for the fans as both a prequel and conclusion to the saga of Laura Palmer. Of course, we were left with more questions after the film, but perhaps that is why Twin Peaks has become such a classic. Its enigma is the mystery, and ironically I think if Twin Peaks had the run Lynch and Mark Frost intended it to have, it wouldn't be as popular. The mystery and unanswered questions have kept the discussions going for far longer than the truths revealed. Even more important is the fact that for 20 years now (this year is the 20th anniversary of the film) there are still 90 minutes that are filmed and edited but have NEVER made it onto ANY release of the film even though there have been several repackagings and Blu Ray releases over the years; fans still are clamoring for this footage.

    So in a strange way, what has kept this film so warm in the hearts of fans I think is not what we were given, but what we weren't.

  • Comment number 15.

    FWWM probably makes more sense if you haven't seen the TV series Twin Peaks.
    This is Lynch remember...

  • Comment number 16.

    lol, "lucky #13". Maybe a new tradition is born of commenting on a randomly generated, numbered comment? Perhaps not.

    Lynch, a good choice, he has talent ;) but fits my "too arty for school" category (Mullholland Drive), if he can only reign in that would be v good (The Straight Story); so this Twin Peaks will be very interesting; which I have not seen.

  • Comment number 17.

    Twin peaks season one,one of the best TV series ever,season 2 was ok,but due to big wig executives they blew it.It needed 4 seasons at least.Lost however had the amount of series but blew the plot.I love the film and seen it many times,many people will wonder what the %!&$%.

  • Comment number 18.

    It's a pity the next film is a sequel (technically prequel) to a tv series spanning 2 seasons, so in order to take part I'd have to watch 2 seasons and a movie. That's a bit much.

    I originally saw Twin Peaks back when it first aired and have season 1 on DVD but haven't got around to re-watching it yet.

  • Comment number 19.

    I first sore Fire Walk with me last year after hearing Mark talk of his admiration for the film, but didn't care at all for it. Although i'm willing to give it a second look and such is my dedication to the cause i will buy both seasons of Twin Peaks on DVD before rewatching FWWM to see if it enhances my appreciation of the film.

  • Comment number 20.

    No need for me to track down a copy, I just have to reach into my pile of DVDs and pull it out! My favourite Lynch film by quite some way, I love Fire Walk With Me.

    For those new to Twin Peaks...I really think you need to have seen the series, all of it, to appreciate or make sense of the film. Yes, Season 2 drops off after the Laura Palmer plot ends, but stick with it all the way. It is worth it.

  • Comment number 21.

    I'd agree "totes" with the comment above. I feel there's a further health warning to add: this film has grown on me rather than being an instant hit. Like all of Lynch's best work I think this a film that rewards the rewatcher.

    While I am happy to reappraise this as a standalone I remember on first viewing I felt it didn't come close to measuring up to season one. Beautiful film though and looking forward to giving it a rewatch.

    Incidentally I believe the DVD vers I have is now quite rare. I shall be weighing up the imminent 20th anniversary edition on blu ray methinks!

  • Comment number 22.

    Good choice for the second film. I saw the movie before the tv series so it didnt rile me the way it has some Twin Peaks fans, and ive always been pleased that Mark has championed it.
    I think the reason you hear a lot of people slate it was that it is pure dark Lynchian weirdness whereas the tv series had a bit more light and shade making it relatively more accessible to the mainstream. I doubt those viewers would have liked stuff like Blue Velvet or Eraserhead, or maybe they are genuinely unimpressed Lynch fans and i just have a fondness for my first exposure to his work, anyway im glad theres other people out there who like it.

  • Comment number 23.

    Oh yes! I saw that FWWM was being re-released on DVD and Blu-ray soon and have been looking for an excuse to buy it! Thanks Mark! :)

  • Comment number 24.

    Fuckaduck. That DVD is the only film sitting within arms reach of me. Love a good coincidence. Finished the series for the firsttime recently. Yet to watch FWWM. SO EXCITED

  • Comment number 25.

    Not sure TP:FWWM is a good choice, if you've not seen the Twin Peaks series this kind of spoils all the mystery!!

  • Comment number 26.

    Hahahaha, I stand corrected :p

    Sorry Dr K, just in a couple of the other video blogs (I've seen all of them from the last year or two), the comments you've quoted have been focused on the first 9-10 or so, therefore I presumed you always made your vids fairly soon after the last one was put online.

  • Comment number 27.

    Have to say, I am a little disappointed in the choice for the second film of the film club. It is not that I do like like Twin Peaks (love the TV series, film is decent) but it is that it seems the film club is not going to be a democracy but rather a dictatorship.
    Having commented and read alot of the suggestions when the film club was first launched, I seem to remember quite a few shouts for Alien 3 and very few, if not none at all, shouts for FWWM. I may stand corrected as I did not read all the comments but there was still a large percentage going for Alien 3.
    It would have been even more pertinent with the release of Prometheus (which I did not like).
    Is this because Mark does not like Alien 3? Probably.. who knows..?

    Still a big fan, keep up the good work..

  • Comment number 28.

    NOT A COMPLAINT! Every SIX weeks? That's only abut 8 films a year!! (according to my assistant) Still, better than no Moviedrome I suppose...

  • Comment number 29.

    @ #27: Casual and indecipherable works a lot better I imagine? Otherwise it all gets overly self-important and then which voting system do you go for/turn-out , 1st before the post et al. imho oc. Besides we have the great quiff performing voodoo with a chicken carcass; that should be enough for anybody.

    Those comments mentioned in the above blog on Breathless were really insightful. Kudos.

  • Comment number 30.

    @ #29: I don't think it should be some type of voting system but we were asked which films we would like to see. Don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to FWWM, I think maybe it should be a one for Mark, one for us system..
    There is a lot than can be said about Alien 3, especially the directors cut which is a completely different and not as widely seen film. It was a very misunderstood film that got ripped apart by a studio and almost lead to the loss of one of the best working directors today.

  • Comment number 31.

    @ #30 Ciaran: "1 for Mark, 1 for us", has potential actually. :) I enjoyed Alien 3 when it came out, but it always felt like the last throw of the dice /"I'm getting to old for this.." perhaps really why some found it mediocre? In fact No.3 in a series always seems to give problems (generally ending is much harder than beginning rule)... ;0 Anyway here we now with Prometheus 1... Whoa.

  • Comment number 32.

    Oh good. I actually have the next movie in my DVD collection. Was away for most of the first movie so unable to watch it. Will dig out Twin Peaks, Fire Walk With Me and watch it this long weekend.

  • Comment number 33.

    Fire Walk With me is superb but I watched it twice in the past month or two, funny coincidence. I give it the thumbs up but might have to sit out so I don't overkill. Good choice though Mark, I sense a compelling debate.

  • Comment number 34.

    An important point that isn't getting enough air concerning the relationship between TP FWWM and TP tv show: it's important to note that the tag-line of the tv show was "who killed Laura Palmer?", which remains a mystery for all of season 1 and the first 8-9 episodes of season 2. FWWM is worth watching even without knowing the TV show, but watching it first will severely affect your enjoyment of what I (and many) consider to be some of the best TV of all time.

  • Comment number 35.

    If certain remarks of your podcast are to be taken at face value, it would appear you have W P Blatty on speed dial (not surprising given your championing of his work), could we hope for The Ninth Configuration for future clubbing, perhaps with the man on hand or in voice for your intro?

  • Comment number 36.

    I watched this blog, then went to buy 'Fire Walk With Me' in preparation and low and behold amazon had it to be re-released on 4th June...was this a coincidence or did you plan this all along Dr. Kermode???

  • Comment number 37.

    fwwm has slowly been working its way up my netflix queue due to the relentless plugging of the good doctor. today the movie arrived, i popped it in my computer, sat down in eager expectation, and started the show. unfortunately, not even lil the dancer could save this train-wreck of a movie... an incoherent plot, endless continuity errors, unintelligible dialog, and all the acting prowess of troll 2 made fwwm one of the least enjoyable movie experiences of my life. laura palmer's sidekick, donna, delivers a line that epitomized the film for me: "if i had a nickel for every cigarette your mom smoked, i'd be dead." i found myself puzzling over this statement, "does she mean she'd die from being buried under so many nickels? maybe an overabundance of nickels would inhibit her ability to buy food, and she'd die from starvation?" in the end i had to conclude that her statement is one of many warnings to the rational viewer that this movie is not for you.

  • Comment number 38.

    Love the series, love fire walk with me. Big lynch fan and this is my favourite. Sad its so underrated because the vibe is different than that of the series. I can understand that this is not everyones favourite movie but if you watch it with an 'I want to know what its all about' approach you will be amazed. Discuss it with other people rewatch it (or some scenes) and you will notice this is far from an incoherent mess. I do recommend watching the series first, it will make a lot more sense. Warning! (spoilers!): Some versions of the dvd have no or wrong subtitles and this can mess up some things. In the film the word garmonbozia is mentioned twice. The first time its just garmonbozia but the second time its garmonbozia (pain and sorrow). Some versions don't mention pain and sorrow and I find it to be pretty important.

  • Comment number 39.

    Excellent. Looking forward to Fire Walk With Me. I'm a big Twin Peaks and Lynch fan, but avoided Fire Walk With Me as I didn't want to taint the series.

    But if it's for a film club, that protects me if it's rubbish, right?

  • Comment number 40.

    "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me"
    I saw it and I have to say, What the Fu...?!
    ...ekhmm- I mean, It's a very different movie from most.

  • Comment number 41.

    Having just finished watching FWWM for the second time (the first was when it came out on video back in the day) i'm still at a loss! Is it genius or utter rubbish?
    I found it hard getting past some of the "bad" acting. For all the weird, strange or just plain stupid thing that happen i still couldn't keep my eyes off the screen, woundering just what's going to happen next?

  • Comment number 42.

    Had this on DVD for a while so was quite pleased when this was revealed as the second film of the Uncut Film Club, having said that this is not one that I regulary go to. Mainly because when I first Saw it I was coming right off the back of having watched the entire two seasons of the T.V show. I feel the show started really well but gradually went down hill and on the whole I'd have to say was pretty dissapointing (if viewing the thing as a whole). However there were some pretty interesting moments, (mainly The man from another place red room scene and Bob eerily climbing over the sofa toward the camera). This is almost exactly how I feel about Fire Walk With Me, It's long, slow and overly complicated, and as a whole a rather dissapointing end to the Twin Peaks story. There are some good moments though; The old lady at the trailer park, Bob climbing in through the window, and seeing J├╝rgen Prochnow with a big black beard sitting there with a vacant expression. I feel that the "Lynchian" moments in the film are over done and when it comes to surrealism I feel that less is more, I also feel this film would have fared much better if there had been no Twin Peaks T.V show to live up to.

  • Comment number 43.

    As someone who find RG painful on screen in most things, it did take me a while to get used to his performance. I think it helped that it was based somewhere between a comic and a play - as he can't take himself too seriously.

    As a bit of escapism it was a fun film to watch and it ended well - hadn't seen it before, but will watch it again! Good recommendation (fair point made by listener about you suggesting a remake of a foreign film fir inaugural film - good job most of us don't have 3D tvs....yet!)

  • Comment number 44.

    I have just finished watching Fire walk with me from my newly received David Lynch Blu-ray boxset, and I have to say what an incredible film it really is. I saw the film once before just after finishing the series on DVD, but this viewing was something else. Not only did the film actually clear up a few elements of the TV series but it also proved once again what an incredible director Lynch is. The scene with David bowie, the talking monkey and of course a table, is one of the most surreal and also powerful scenes in a film I have ever seen. So many of these scenes in Fire walk with me genuinely left me thinking long and hard about what they all mean. Truly unique film making. Genius

  • Comment number 45.

    Picked up a copy at HMV in Victoria Station yesterday and am holding on to it until the intro is recorded. My attitude is that the TV show concerned itself with "Who Killed Laura Palmer?" and the movie's tagged "The Last Seven Days of Laura Palmer". If the film does its job (and I appreciate that being a David Lynch film that job may not necessarily be what I expect it to be), I'll track down the TV series.

  • Comment number 46.

    Just actually watched FWWM since the blu-ray came out at the start of the month, so will have to keep my thoughts in my head until Mark does the intro.

    There's been issues with people complaining as the audio on the blu-ray has errors, 4 or 5 times the audio changes pitch briefly like a cassette tape being sped up or slowed down.

    If I hadn't heard about this before watching the film I would have thought David Lynch added it in of his own accord - in a weird way it adds to the creepy and dark atmosphere!

  • Comment number 47.

    I feel like I've just woken from a dream which is a pretty common experience for me when I watch David Lynch's films. Fire Walk with Me seems to induce a type of liminal state and while the rational part of me extracts a story of the theft of innocence my less rational mind lives in the world of the Red Lodge and I'm as blank as a fart

  • Comment number 48.

    Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me was the last Lynch film I had left to see and boy was I impressed. Dreamlike does not even begin to describe the horrific mood of eerie lunacy that embodies every single Lynch film but is particularly prominent here, in this 1991 film that marks the end of Lynch's early career and at the time was his best film since Eraserhead.

    Savagely underrated, Fire Walk With Me adapts the mystery and transfixing power of the Twin Peaks TV series and stretches it out to two hours, often taking the story to darker places than the show ever dared. The final image of Kyle MacLachlan with his hand on a hysterical Sheryl Lee's shoulder as the film's eerie, skin-crawling theme assures us the nightmare we've been suffering is the work of one of cinema's greatest auteurs and a powerful, dark, important achievement.

  • Comment number 49.

    I have a love/hate relationship with this film like no other. The first half of the film, featuring agents Chris Isaak and Kiefer Sutherland investigating a pre-Laura Palmer case, right up to and including the insane scene between Kyle MacLachlan, Lynch himself and David Bowie ('let's not talk about Judy at all!') are probably my favourite scenes from any Lynch film.

    It is when we get to Twin Peaks, itself, ironically that I consider that the film goes off the rails.

    From here on in the film is unremmitingly dark. While I fully appreciate that the story of the last 7 days of Laura's life was never going to be a laugh-a-minute and that Lynch was given the freedom to be darker in the film than he would ever have been allowed to be on TV, I feel the greatest achievement of the TV series was the constant balance between light and shade. For every moment of darkness in the show - and there are many which still haunt me more than any horror film - there were moments of delightful eccentricity which balanced these out and helped you get through the nightmare.

    This approach survives the first half of the film. There is a real air of dread pervading the Issak scenes but it is married to and alleviated by some wonderful moments of humour. The second half abandon such scenes altogether for a full-on descent into hell. Just a few scenes here and there featuring the other characters in their day to day, often bizarre lives, would not have gone amiss.

    This situation is not helped by the fact that some key characters from the series are completely missing from the film while others have been recast (and not for the better).

    All in all it makes for an extremely difficult second-half watch which would be perfectly acceptable if not inconsistent with the series it was born out of and supposed to bookend.

 

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