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John Beattie | 14:12 UK time, Tuesday, 5 June 2012

What did you think of Scotland's win over Australia, then? I was impressed. A victory over the number two side in the world.

My favourite tweet read something like: "Skippy, Madge Bishop, Hugh Jackman, the barman in the pub, your boys took a hell of a beating!"

Well done to the Scotland team, it's great to be part of history.

A few things caught my eye in the build-up and then during the game.

The first was the disrespect shown to the Scotland team. Our "little" team was given second-rate status by playing the game midweek and in a far-flung location.

The Scotland team won't say anything, but that will have played a part.

The Scotland players celebrate after their dramatic late win against the Wallabies, the first of three summer Tests. Photo: Getty

The Scotland players celebrate after their dramatic late win against the Wallabies, the first of three summer Tests. Photo: Getty

And then there were the conditions. The rain teemed down and, even when playing with the wind in the second half, the Aussies seemed incapable of sticking the ball down the pitch and playing for position with any conviction.

But what about Scotland? That was as good a line-out performance as the wily fox Al Kellock will have been part of in some time, and Ryan Grant at loose-head shored up his side of the scrum to great effect on his first cap.

More than that, there was obvious intent. Very early on the lighter Scottish tried to demonstrate that they weren't going to be out-muscled.

There were rolling mauls, a one-pass hit-up game that sat happily with the conditions, little kicks over the top, and a defensive effort that was better than most we had seen in the Six Nations.

The Aussies must have thought that their continual pounding would produce a score, but it didn't. Scotland kept in the game thanks to their simplicity and technique.

Ross Rennie is a one-man perpetual motion machine.

I like the way Scottish players pushed and shoved the Aussies when things slowed down, and the rucking technique was good, with players making ground supported by others and in a driving position.

I also liked the fact that Andy Robinson didn't substitute his players by rote.

Fans may hate them, but scrums are the most important tool in beating a team. A pack that was going well was kept together for the duration, and when Chris Cusiter was brought on his guile helped attract the penalty for Scotland at the end of the game.

I heard someone near me shout "kick for touch" as the game crept into extra time - but the game has always been there for the taking.

Oh, how good it would be to have this kind of performance in the Six Nations.

Yes, it was a predominantly defensive performance, given the relative tackle statistics (the Scots made about three times as many), but it was a win.

And it was aptly summed up by Al Strokosch accidentally head-butting Joe Ansbro on the final whistle.

Two supposedly easier games now face the Scots. New caps like Tom Brown, Matt Scott and Ryan Grant have invaluable experience in their memory banks.

But Fiji and Samoa will be tough in very probably much hotter and drier conditions.

What's that, Skippy? There's been a terrible accident? You bet there has.

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  • Comment number 1.

    Good win, pretty good in the defensive manner.
    History records a win.... BUT..... the conditions really did level the playingfield.
    I would love to be more excited and more happy, just cant do it.... like the lions 'tourists' its a midweek game, and Australia are saving/preping for the 'first test' on Sat.
    Sorry. it dont fill my boat.

  • Comment number 2.

    It floats my boat!

    Awesome will, grit and savvy to get a win away in Australia.

    Wales - the repeat 6 Nations Champions - are still hunting for a Southern Scalp, and we've taken Australia's. Again.

    I'm eternally optimistic but genuinely, this feels good, like the beginning of something special and the realisation of a long due promise of youth, experience, coaching and the expectations of a loyal fan-base of Scottish support.

    Onwards. Slowly. Mistakes will be made but upwards we go. Steadily. Solidly.

    I'm proud and grateful.

    (we'll challenge in the Autumn tests and win the 6 Nations 2013)

  • Comment number 3.

    What a turn-round from the Italy game in the 6N. Fantastic backs to the wall effort which is becoming a blueprint for victories over the likes of Englnad,SA and Australia. Would love to see a more expansive Scotland but today wasn't the day for it in such dreadful conditions.

    Can hear the knockers claiming it was a 2nd string Australia side and that they had 1 eye on the Wales series. Well, any victory over the tri-nations countries on their own turf are rare events and must be celebrated. Let's not forget Scotland were missing Hamilton,Brown,Denton and Evans and had kids like Scott and Tom Brown in the side.

    Grant and Murray were phenomenal today.

    Let's hope for wins in Fiji and Samoa now, looking forward to seeing a more expansive Scotland side with Tim Mcvisser finishing off the moves.

  • Comment number 4.

    Rickbroon Yup, I thought it was pretty good. You have to lose a few games before you feel how good it is to win. It was important to get a win and to beat the Aussies, and the Aussies are a good side who got suckered

    I'm on twitter @BBCJohnBeattie

  • Comment number 5.

    First of all, massive congratulations to the whole team (players and coaches) for a monumental effort. Glad that Andy Robinson has had some reward for all his work.

    Any coincidence that Scotland start winning now that Gregor Townsend has moved on? ;-)

    I'll come clean and admit that I didn't think Scotland stood a chance, but I suppose that's when Scotland are at their most dangerous - when nobody gives them a chance.

    I'm not sure that the Welsh welcome this win though, as the Wallabies will double their efforts now.

    Who knows? The men in gold "may" just be a little nervous now...

  • Comment number 6.

    Firstly, its geat to win. The defence was huge in the 2nd half.
    However as much as i was pleased with the D, the decision making was terrible and Ford's captaincy is a real worry. How many times did we gain 15-20 yards from a penalty kick to touch only to throw in squint to the lineout? And Box kicks into the wind from scrum halfs which gain 5 yards and gift the ball back... frustrates the heck out of me.

    Enjoyed the win, but we got lucky. We need to be far better tactically

  • Comment number 7.

    Disrespect shown to the scottish team??!! I'm sure the australian team had no say in the fact that the game was played mid-week! Bit of a chip on the shoulder there???

    "My favourite tweet read something like: "Skippy, Madge Bishop, Hugh Jackman, the barman in the pub, your boys took a hell of a beating!"....This is disrespect! What ever happened to winning gracefully. If the english said something like this they would be deemed arrogant

  • Comment number 8.

    How can it be 'disrespectful' to play the game in midweek? After all, there are only so many weekends to fit the games in on, and Aus have a full tour by Wales coming up (while NZ host Ire and SA host Eng). So when else could the game have been played? I'm sure the Aus players who were playing S15 a couple of days ago wouldn't have been keen on the game, so would have thought Scotland would have appreciated Aus fitting it in rather than getting chippy about a 'lack of respect'.

    Anyway, well done Scotland.

  • Comment number 9.

    The disrespect continues in the post match analysis with Sky Sports (I know, I know, I shouldn't expect anything else. I flicked over by accident, honest guv) attaching the prefix experimental every time they mention Australia and neglecting to mention the new caps or the missing experience in the Scottish team.

    The manner of the win was not important today. I took no less enjoyment from it being a typically great Scottish win in the manner of so many before today. Blood and guts and that was just the post match celebrations.

    I do look forward to one day witnessing an atypical Scottish win. One replete with assured handling and composure in the red zone but today the result was all that mattered.

    Rennie was my player of the 6N and was magnificent today. Sadly NDL continues to suffer from appalling lapses of concentration and poor judgement and again, could have cost us dearly with his infringement with only minutes to go.

    Onwards and Upwards.

  • Comment number 10.

    Great win in terrible conditions. Scotland deserved it after a dogged second half performance not giving kickable penalties. Great defense. Well done, Scotland

  • Comment number 11.

    When England and Wales set off to the southern hemisphere at the beginning of their rebuilding exercises they were thumped by huge margins. This has not happened to Scotland this time around.

    Australia made 2 mistakes in my view. The 1st was to accept the fixture and the second was not to take it seriously.

    OK, Australia don't need to worry too much about ranking points for their own sake but then they can't grumble if they lose to a much lower ranked side when they field a weakened side. To us, it doesn't matter that it was their 2nd string as it has been few years since they last beat us and we get the ranking points that we desperately need.

    Scotland put in a good solid performance today in conditions that warranted the tight game. As John wrote, we did mix it up a bit in the 1st half and tried to get over the whitewash but the Australian defence was good and the ball like a bar of soap. 6-3 at half time and I thought that we were done for and only time separated the Aussies from their winning scores. Brilliant defence that eventually coughed up a penalty in our favour that Greig slotted over. Not one for the neutral or the purist but a win is a win.

    Our next 2 outings will be much different affairs and I hope that we play open running rugby in what should be glorious conditions.

  • Comment number 12.

    Congrats Scotland.

    Have to admit I didn't expect it, but delighted to see it. A tough gritty win in appalling conditions in the Aussies back yard. Definitely one to savour!

  • Comment number 13.

    Surely your being ironic with the "good line out performance"? with a 6/11 win ratio on there own throw a pub team wouldn't be happy with that stat. Admittedly the weather was a contributing factor but the Aussies managed 7/7

  • Comment number 14.

    Chuffed to bits with the victory! I have great faith in Scotland when playing in monsoon conditions, but any aussie team in dry conditions still gives me the fear of death. The real test for us is the next two and a half weeks and playing wining rugby in much better conditions. That’s much more important for us now, providing a good barometer of how much we have developed since the Italian game.
    We still sit on shaky foundations with our U20s team taking a real kicking yesterday. We need heavy investment (people investment) at U18 and U16 levels for clubs and school to raise the intensity our young players experience before moving to seniors!

  • Comment number 15.

    Agree with neverhadpace about the squint lineouts - that seemed to become a problem halfway through the six nations. But it's strange that while our squint throws were picked up, their's were not. And their squint feeds at the scrum, where you couldn't even use the wind as an excuse, were outrageous. But it was a hughely satisfying win all the same!

  • Comment number 16.

    Still a very poor side, who finished bottom of the six nations, only capable of beating a good side when its tonking it down and blowing a gale. But yes, Scotland show other sides such respect when they go to Murrayfield. (cue flashback to England v Scotland, Scotland victory t shirts going on sale 5 days before the match...Hmmmm)

  • Comment number 17.

    Well done Scotland- your defence was great and you took the chances that came your way. Really plased for you as your 6 nations position didn't reflect your performances..

    As a Welsh supporter I suspect you haven't done us any favours as the Aussies will now be determined to pull the grand slam champions down a peg and not lose two on the bounce

    But you've shown the way and we should be confident..

  • Comment number 18.

    1) A necessary win but not a good one. Sure statistically speaking its an anomaly that Scotland beat the Aussies on their own turf but it was against a largely second string side in the pouring rain, this said I am very happy that they won, it really is what those youngsters needed to boost their confidence in a Scotland shirt

    2) Disrespect? I'm pretty sure a lot of teams play midweek games, bare in mind Australia are mid season and are therefore probably pretty busy as it is without touring international teams. I don't think it was disrespectful, they offered to play us midweek, and we chose to accept it.

    3) Much as I appreciate your blogs John, I think you should withdraw the gloating comments about skippy etc. It just poorly represents what are, respectful fans, Australia lost because we were the better team on the day, but the team that faced Scotland still were out there to play, how many times has the luck been against us and we've been bitter about it? I think its hypocritical to gloat. Be happy by all means, we all are, we needed a jump in the rankings badly and the team pulled their finger out to hold on for a famous victory to do so.

  • Comment number 19.

    A few points re: Australia.

    They have lost their last 2 games to Scotland (1 home and 1 away)
    They have lost their last 2 games to England (1 home and 1 away)
    They lost their last game to Ireland (RWC therefore neutral ground)
    They may have had a few players missing but I counted about 6 or 7 that would be 1st choice regulars.
    They still have no front row.
    The world rankings are a joke, does anybody really believe they are the 2nd best team in the world?

    Really well done Scotland but a win v Australia is no huge deal anymore and hasn't been for a few years now. Their sporting empire as a whole has totally collapsed.

    Wales should win this series, Oz are there for the taking.

  • Comment number 20.

    This tour is important for 2 reasons.
    1. For a lot of the players it's first time playing in Southern Hemisphere against the hard hitting nations who give you no time with the ball
    2. IRB ranking points are vital as June 2012 defines the rankings for RWC2015.

    Any victory over a Southern Hemisphere team is great and against the team currently ranked No.2 in the World is immense.We need to back it up with victory over the other 2 nations, as it would be typical of our national teams to raise their game to beat Australia and then lose to Fiji or Samoa

  • Comment number 21.

    Must be a little unsettling for the Wallabies right now. First they assumed that Ireland would just capitulate against them in the World Cup - now they show a breathtaking arrogance against Scotland - 'dont bother showing up mate' attitude!!
    The Aussie media is carpeting the place with excuses for the Scottish victory - bad weather, porridge, haggis, bagpipes, full moon, yadda yadda yadda. Bottom line is you got schooled again by one of the NH 'Little' teams. Show some class - like the great Aussie teams used to.
    Well Done Scotland!!

  • Comment number 22.

    A fantastic result and, despite the conditions, an entertaining game to watch if you like goal-line stands and ferocious tackling!

    At the half, I felt that we hadn't put enough on the scoreboard to win this one, as I felt that the Wallabies would use the conditions better in the second half than we did in the first, but the great defense held up!

    There were outstanding performances by a number of players. Of note; Murray, his best for a while, Grant, excellent debut, Rennie, outstanding again, Strokosh, tackled his heart out, and Barclay, another vacuum cleaner in the back row.

    It was a good move by Andy to bring Cusiter on when he did; he not only rallied the pack well, he did an outstanding job of communicating with a very cautious referee. It was Cusiter who got us the winning penalty by continually ‘updating’ the ref on what Australia was up to!

    Oh, and remind me never to celebrate anywhere near Strokosh!

  • Comment number 23.

    Everyone should just be happy we win. it does not matter about weather, team selection, previous other dribble, We beat Australia at home we win the game thats all that matters nothing else.

    Well done Scotland looking forward to next match.

  • Comment number 24.

    Rikbroon

    You are clearly not that interested in Scottish rugby or truely care about it if you cannot be satisifed with that win.

    Test match rugby is about winning. Result first, then performance.

    I would rather we played rubbish and won instead of all this "should have, could have, would have won" rubbish we have had to go through over the years.

    After all the losses and embarassments I could not have cared less how we played as long as we won!!

    We just beat Australia for goodness sake!! Who cares that they didn't have a full strength side, but neither did we.

    No Brown, Denton, Evans, Hamilton, Jacobsen!

    Sorry about that little rant but that comment from the number 1 post was completely ridiculous and a little bit embarassing for whoever wrote that, I mean what a pathetic and stupid thing to say "It dont fill my boat".

    John

    Unfortunatley before that match I don't think we deserved to be anything much more than a warm up match. I wouldn't take it that personally.

    Great to finally be winning again, but we have to back it up next week and then the week after and then again in then in the autumn and 6 nations.

  • Comment number 25.

    #11 is kind of delusional. Scotland have been rebuilding since 1990.

    Playing the game mid-week is odd. On normal tours, the second string play midweek against a provinical team. So it is a downgrading to an extent.

    However more importantly Scotland played the conditions and manned-up for once. Australia's first half tactics were awful, acknowledged by the fact they changed completely in the second half and should have won it.

    Good defensive win by Scotland over a poorly-led Australian team. I wouldn't bet on it again.

  • Comment number 26.

    Great result for Scotland and Scottish rugby. With only a 3 point gap at half time felt the Wallabies would run all over us but huge credit to all the players. To defend like that against a team like that in conditions like that, incredible.

    I also think they were being slightly disrespectful but the results we've had over the last year maybe you can't blame them. I get the feeling the next time we play them we'll have their full attention. BTW if we win that one do we get to keep them...?

    adam 7 & 16, obviously seething, relax mate.

  • Comment number 27.

    Wow...well done Scotland. Who'd have thought it? Mind you, they pulled off the same at Murrayfield fairly recently.

    Nobody beats Australia in Australia without doing something pretty special but I'd bet that the weather conditions had more than a bit to do with it. It sounds like a duplication of the favoured "freezing monsoon at Murrayfield" that accompanies most famous wins! To see the Aussies play in the rain is always funny as they don't really have a lower gear available to make the best of the conditions. It's their biggest weakness.

    As for the "disrespect" thing John??? This has to be a less attractive feature of the Scottish game. Not for the first time a surprise win elicits this weird "disrespect" tirade. Perhaps John caught it from the charming and effusive Craig Chalmers (if memory serves) and it has lain dormant all these years

    If true, then I suspect that the Aussies are hastily moving the first game against Wales away from the Wagga-Wagga community stadium!

    Huge congratulations to Scotland!!!

  • Comment number 28.

    Adam, get that chip off your shoulder. When England beat Australia (and I take it you are an Englishman given your myopic comments) then it prompts national pourings of celebration that only a Diamond Jubilee could rival.

    I agree that elements of the SRU marketing dept could be described as disrespectful, yet just as it is on the field, we are merely amateur at such activities compared to our big brothers down south after all such arrogance was coined by the RFU in printing 1990 Grand Slam winners pullovers.

    Anyhow, I hope that your ire of little Scotland winning in Aus has subsided by the weekend so that you can enjoy watching the red rose brigade play in SA, where if we believe what we read, they only have to turn up don't they?

  • Comment number 29.

    I thought it was a tremendous win; the bookmakers had the odds 5 - 1 in favour of Australia, and I thought that was generous to Scotland; it certainly was, given past form (no wins in Australia since 30 years ago, more or less).

    We were fortunate with the conditions, given that Evans and Visser could not play. But fortune only does for us what we cannot do for ourselves; the rest we have to do ourselves... Faith and determination

    SC

  • Comment number 30.

    This is a great result. It´s always good to see a British team win, particularly one as starved of success as Scotland. But the pleasure is increased with the defeat of the Aussies ! Good day to you, Scotland !!

  • Comment number 31.

    Fed up hearing this was against a 2nd string Aussie team. They had 5 debutants, yet we had Ryan Grant and Tom Brown making their first appearances and Matt Scott only had a few minutes as a sub against the Irish. Hogg and Laidlaw are also hardly experienced internationalist with 11 caps between them. The Aussie new boys have had a good few years experience playing and winning Super Rugby, whilst a few of our youngsters were in club rugby less than a year ago.

    We were missing Chunk, Hamilton, Brown, Denton, Evans, Jones and couldn't play Visser. They had several highly experiences players who will start against Wales this weekend. To suggest we only won because it was a weak, mid-week, 2nd string side is quite frankly wrong.

    Anyone who saw us play in the 6 Nations and have watched Glasgow and Edinburgh play can see we like to keep the ball in hand and, whilst we may not score tries at international level, we always try to do so. This game was never going to have tries in it and that would still have been the case whether it was the Irish, Welsh, French, English, South Africans or All Blacks playing. How can you score tries when you can't kick the ball any more than 5 metres forward before the wind throws it back in your face??? Our natural running game will come back when we face the Pacific Islanders in the sunshine and we have the Flying Dutch Machine on the wing.

    In the end it was a fantastic performance based on an immense defensive display. Our line-up was poor but I also saw several times when the ref penalised us but let the Aussies off with the exact same thing. It was also a great bit of play by Laidlaw who made the initial break and pass to get us into the area for the scrum then penalty.

    I now cannot wait for Fiji. We have a young, inexperienced team...but boy does it look exciting. We have been asking for these young guys to be included since the start of the 6 Nations, at last it's happened and now look what we did. #

    Finally give John a break for noticing and included that tweet in his blog. I also noticed it and laughed. It's called light hearted humour. In what way is it disrespectful? Calm down, relax and enjoy another win over Australia. Treated us like a 4th tier rugby nation and got bushwacked. That'll make them think twice of doing that again!

    Come on Scotland!

  • Comment number 32.

    #6 neverhadpace
    Must agree 100% with your comments, especially about Ford's lineout throws, I counted at least 5 maybe 6 offline.
    Must also agree with the deserved critisms aimed at the "author" Beattie, mmm ... maybe a post match wee dram too many prior to writting.
    For the Aussie starting 15 against Wales, I can only see Pocock, Genia and Ioane, being included (possibly Barnes at 12) and predict Cooper will play at 10. But I hope I'm wrong and that they all start. Flying to Australia Thursday and I'll be wearing red whilst keeping all fingers crossed.

  • Comment number 33.

    Is number 11 having a laugh? Australia won the Tri-Nations before the World Cup, which they came 3rd in, you can't say they're not a top side!

    John, I think you maybe watched a different 6N to me. There were good performances in there. The England match in particular we were a rough TMO decision on Laidlaw away from beating them, and we were all over them in Auckland in the World Cup too.

    You maybe need to get some medication for your mood swings. This wasn't a significantly better or worse performance than the team have been cranking out for about a year now.
    We were helped out by the conditions, and I think the missing players hit Australia more than it did us.

    It's a great result though, and the matches we've got this year give us a brilliant chance to make it into the top 8 in the rankings to make RWC 2015 a bit less challenging than 2011 was.

  • Comment number 34.

    Don't buy RikBroon's comments either.

    Conditions are same for both teams whether dry or wet. Scotland had defend on their line for about 10 minutes solid and hold their discipline. They did, Australia didn't.

    Delighted for Andy Robinson and his backroom staff also. I'm in the minority I know but I felt we were on the right track in the 6 nations as we should have beaten both England & France at Murrayfield and aside from the daft sin binnings in Cardiff we held our own against arguably the best team in the Northern Hemisphere in Wales.

    Matt Taylor and Scott Johnson are excellent additions to the backroom. Johnson especially should bring an extra spark to a backline which at international level has struggled for tries.

    We do have a number of good young players coming through the ranks and with Glasgow reaching the play offs in the Pro 12 and Edinburgh the semi of the Heineken we're not as far away as some folk think.

    Well done today guys, now carry it on to the Fiji and Samoa tests.

  • Comment number 35.

    I was so taken aback by the first poster, and several others, that I registered so that I could comment!

    You play the team in front of you - and the weather around you. You tailor your game to these conditions. It doesn't matter what 'might have happened' if the weather had been hot and dry. It doesn't matter that one team or another is missing a couple of good players - it is a game of 22 players, for heaven's sake!

    Scotland defended superbly. The forwards scrummaged and mauled well. If it was more like watching Munster than Edinburgh in terms of flowing back play, well that was because the ball was like soap. And Laidlaw, despite not being the captain, was still the 'little general' at the end, marshalling the forwards to pick and drive, not infringe, as they worked their way closer and closer to Australia's 22. I could see the same gameplan that beat Racing Metro, with the drop goal at 80m. But our scrum did so well that Laidlaw got the place kick - which he was never going to miss.

    Please can we just be happy when we beat a side ranked above us because we outplayed them on the day. That is what rugby is all about - courage, determination, belief - and getting one over on the opposition! :-)

  • Comment number 36.

    I have to mention, that, whilst in Australia I hope Scotland coach Robinson has had a word with Scotland born NSW Warratahs scrum half McKibbin. A very solid player with excellent goal kicking skills.

  • Comment number 37.

    I would like to say many congratulations to Scotland. This was a very fine performance in tough conditions and therefore became a forward battle. The scots prevailed because their pack were technically better and had a stronger scrum. It annoys me when people who know nothing about forward play suggest that this weather is a "leveller". The more skilled the forward the more he can cope with rain and wind and I Also thought the half backs managed the game very well. As an England fan I always enjoy seeing home nations defeat a southern hemisphere team, especially away. Let's hope they can build on this as Andy and his team deserve some reward for the progress they have made, albeit without success in the 6N.

  • Comment number 38.

    Watched the game in a sports bar in Perth, WA with my son.
    He's been here over 10 years so divided loyalties - not in my case.
    No editorials on the result sheet - Oz lost.
    Tim Horan was the pundit on Foxtel - he was prepared for Oz's next game against Wales and had no preparation for this humiliating (yes) loss.
    Stunned silence in the sports-bar.
    Understrength Oz team? Well, yes, maybe, but still some of their current forerunners and wannabes.
    Dismissive attitude towards Scotland? Yes, no doubt.
    Newcastle as a venue - even Oz don't wan't to play there (they are superstars after all).
    Verdict?
    A superb, gritty, ugly game of rugby which the Scots won and Australia didn't. Great credit on one side and bewildering despair on the other.
    ........ and great credit to the wooden spoon of three months ago - that's what really pisses off the Australian team.
    Isn't rugby great?

  • Comment number 39.

    Well done to the Scots, Australia away = not an easy fixture even if the elements are in favor of the visitors. We all know the Scots love the wind and rain as it means chaos. Hopefully the other good thing to come out of this will be that the Aussies will be really angry for the visit of the overrated Welsh and give them the pummeling they need.................here's hoping.

  • Comment number 40.

    Re 33: I think it was a significantly different performance from the RWC games, and also the 6 Nations. It was 80 minutes of concentration, instead of 79. We didn't gift the opposition with a moment of inattention that allowed them to turn a narrow grinding win onto a hugely frustrating loss. These were not the conditions to play like Edinbrugh or Glasgow, but if we are to play like Scotland then we have to do so for 85 minutes, or 90 minutes, or however long it takes to seal the win. I was at the Stade de France in 2007 against Argentina, and from my point of view, way up in the gods, we had the game won, if we could have had the patience to grind on, and on, and on, until we got the try. This was a great win, and the second I have seen this week from a team that threw everything at the game to beat a stronger opponent (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/355252-international-rugby-fixtures/page__st__50 - a joy to watch, and I hope it converted my boss - a neutral - to a fan of rugby.

    SC

  • Comment number 41.

    33 Alasdair McDonald

    "Rough TMO decision???" Awwww come on!!! You'll be doing the "disrespect" thing next!

    Scotland played very well in the Calcutta Cup and just failed to overcome a very young and inexperienced England side, mostly as a result of the mistakes they made rather than anything that England did. For the TMO to have awarded Laidlaw's "try" (I'm sure it brushed my jersey ref!) however would have flown in the face of the video evidence and the benefit of the doubt accruing to the defending side. To try to present this as a massive injustice is way off the mark!

  • Comment number 42.

    A thoroughly deserved win from the boys with a defensive performance to be proud of. Played the conditions perfectly I felt, you've got to grind it out in the rain and the wind. Positives from the back row as well, thought all 3 lads had a stormer which is very promising considering one of our best in Denton was unavailable.

    I think John's allowed a bit of ribbing at the Wallabies as well! All in good fun in my book!

  • Comment number 43.

    Hi, apologies if anyone thinks I'm gloating, I'm not, I'm just pleased that the team won. Most teams look down on Scotland and it's great when you see a team in blue beat a top class nation in their own back yard.

    Twitter @BBCJohnBeattie

  • Comment number 44.

    Wow, talk about an over-reaction.

    One lucky win against the aussies without even scoring a try and Scotland are World-beaters.

    Lets look at the big picture. You're still the wooden spoon holders. Your 'Rugby' at the six-nations was near-unwatchable and ineffective.

    You will always be no-hopers in Rugby, football or any other big sport. Your biggest sporting star is Colin Montgomerie, that says it all.

  • Comment number 45.

    To be honest, I am always pleased to see a home nation beat any southern hemisphere side and dispel the beleive that there is a huge difference in class in the southern hemisphere. But I cant tolerate the notion that every team that plays scotland is arrogant and if scotland win, the opposition 'had it coming' or weren't showing respect. Its dilusional and gets a tad repetative as well as being rude and disprespectful itself. What ever happened to 'well played lads', a shake of hands and keeping the win in perspective...

    hewittextratime83 @ 28, I think you and I are reading different papers, I've not read anything that says/suggests/hints that England 'only have to turn up'. I think you might be writing your own headlines!

  • Comment number 46.

    In regards to a previous post:

    Would this underdog win have made such an impact without the national anthem? If you sing it to celebrate after the win, you should sing it to inspire said win as well.

  • Comment number 47.

    44: I don't think anyone said they were world-beaters. I think they said they beat the team ranked second in the world in their own back yard. I think you'll find Andy Murray is a bigger star name than Colin Montgomerie, and I hope that we can avoid being drawn by the likes of yourself into rude, cruel and childish jibes. I'llnot argue about the 'ineffective' but I can tell you that I was able to force myself to sit throuugh every Scotland game in the Six Nations, and if you were not, it says more about the quality of your support than about the performance.

    Like you, I prefer to watch rugby league - a veritable tryfest, generally, but for the national game, I enjoyed this as much as any other in the past few years

    SC

  • Comment number 48.

    Agree totally with #34 and 35 - we beat Australia in Australia, we tackled like demons and thoroughly deserved the win.
    We had a decent ref this time, no dodgy decisions and no hard luck story!
    I for one enjoyed the win and am optimistic for the rest of the tour.
    Well done AR and the team.

  • Comment number 49.

    Number 44....come back when you beat a southern hemisphere side in their own back yard with half a team missing and 3 debutants.

    One question...what country do you support?

  • Comment number 50.

    Congrats on a great Scottish victory. It was fully deserved too! The conditions were the same for both teams, the difference was Scotland seemed to want and were fully committed. Australia looked like they didn't fancy it.

    But I was watching the heroic effort ready for an heroic defeat at the death. How many of us watching the final penalty half expected the ball to hit the upright and fall in to the hands of an Australian player, who runs 90 meters for a try.

  • Comment number 51.

    All this talk of disrespect is nonsense! Scotland are the minnows of Europe at the moment (we won the wooden spoon remember!). The aussies put us on the playlist in the right place - midweek - just like we put Samoa midweek and the game in Aberdeen! Get a grip!
    Having said all that - we still won, so well done to all the boys for a great effort - forwards looked very very hungry and did a great job!

  • Comment number 52.

    John, speaking as a passionate England supporter (genuinely), I've got to say a massive congratulations to Scotland. That performance was phenomenal. You are right to celebrate this victory/performance as it is the result that Andy Robinson's charges have, truth be told, been deserving for a while now. There are a few bleating antipodeans on here who ought to remember that their team were trying to win this test too. International rugby never has a 'friendly' game and long may that continue. Respect yes - friendly no. Every time you pull on that shirt it is game on, so anyone that wants to give an excuse for Australia losing is giving just that - an excuse. I doubt that the Australian players will dismiss this as a blip, they are far too professional for that.
    Well done Scotland, this bodes well for a healthy 6N and the try threat is the next stage for gaining assuredness in. Plenty of tests and opportunities for that before February 2013.

  • Comment number 53.

    Well done Scotland a heroic win, and I'm curious as to why quite a few people are bashing this win, saying it was only a second string Australian team, the conditions favoured Scotland, the Australians were put off by a midweek and blah blah blah. Well Scotland had a number of inexperienced players as well, the midweek game would have affected them as well as they would have been used to playing weekend tests as well, and as for the conditions, well that's sport for you, the surrounding conditions will always affect the game, no matter what the sport, either you adjust to the conditions or you don't. The bottom line is Scotland defended their line like Tigers, kept their discipline and took their chances when they came, Australia did not and they lost fair and square. So I'll say again, well done Scotland learn from this experience and build upon the good work and become a force again, the six nations needs and will be all the better for having a good Scotland team in it.

  • Comment number 54.

    Number 44....come back when you beat a southern hemisphere side in their own back yard with half a team missing and 3 debutants.

    One question...what country do you support?

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    I support England. You'll find we have a proven track record against Southern Hemisphere sides. We even beat Australia under Martin Johnson, which was one of our weakest times.

    Beating Australia once every decade or two by the skin of your teeth is as good as it'll get for Scotland.

  • Comment number 55.

    This is inaccurate reporting, fans do not hate scrummaging ; teams that can't scrummage( and possibly reporters) are the ones that do not want to scrummage.

  • Comment number 56.

    Think the pair that are disagreeing with me are missing the point a wee bit.
    Firstly, the "rough TMO decision" isn't just a rose tinted Scottish view. I had England mates up for the match and they were certain it was a try the more they watched it.
    Also another friend who has played with Laidlaw met him after the game and he was certain that he's had his hand on the ball with downward pressure.
    (And on another day the knockdown from Rennie after he delayed the pass too long would have got us at least a pen).
    In any case, you'd find it hard to argue that this year's Calcutta had Scotland generating more try scoring opportunities against England than they have in a long time.
    And I love the way that this is all seen as being a turnaround in Scotland when Australia failed to take their chances too. (Could have been a different story if their pen from the halfway line a few mins before ours had sailed over).

    The point I'm trying to make is that John has no middle ground. Scotland are either fantastic or we should be booking ourselves into Dignitas, when that's not really the case.
    I've been to all bar a handful of the Scotland matches at Murrayfield since the 90s, and followed them from Invercargill to Auckland in NZ last year.

    What we're playing now is as good as I've seen in the professional era, and that's maybe part of our problem. We try to win games by outplaying the opposition, and that's when the wee decisive errors creep in.
    We need to pick up some tips from the ABs and learn that you get the game won first, no matter how ugly, then you can start flinging the ball about and entertaining the crowd.
    It was a great battling result, but most of the games that have gone the other way have been single score affairs.
    We shouldn't get too depressed when we're on the losing end, nor should we get carried away when we nick it with the last kick of the ball.

    Fingers crossed this gives the team the belief they need to clean sweep the tour, then I'll get the ABs round mine before the Autumn Tests for some E.Coli pre-match catering...

  • Comment number 57.

    Let's face it the only time Scotland beat the better sides, with the odd rare exception, is when the weather conditions are appalling and the other team is dragged down to Scotland's level. Nevertheless a win is a win so well done to them. Not sure about this "lack of respect" thing. Scotland are 12th in the World. How much "respect" does that deserve.

  • Comment number 58.

    #56 - "We need to pick up some tips from the ABs and learn that you get the game won first, no matter how ugly, then you can start flinging the ball about and entertaining the crowd."

    Hahahahahaha. Thanks for the laughs. Scotland taking tips from the ABs, winning the game early and then 'entertaining the crowd'???? This is delusional thinking on a par with the Sun's usual commentary on English football. Has this ever happened? Not in living memory that's for sure.

    Well done on the gritty win, Scotland deserved it, but you'd better adjust that medication.

  • Comment number 59.

    "far-flung location" - Hardly, considering that stadium hosts the Newcastle Knights during the NRL and has now been brought in as a venue to expand the game of Rugby. There's no disrespect in that. Stupid comment.

    As for the game, credit to Scotland but that's as far as it goes for compliments. No one can gauge anything from that game other than the result. That was some of the worst conditions I have seen in a game of rugby and that levels the playing field substantially. I didn't see anything from Scotland that was different from the 6N when we played them. A second-string Wallaby pack had 96% possession in the second half and most of it inside the Scottish 22.

    Australia will be a totally different team come Saturday.

  • Comment number 60.

    If Scotland can make it 3 out of 3 by beating Samoa and Fiji this will have been a fantastic tour. I can Samoa in particular giving you a tough battle but you should avoid playing like wales seem to do against the polyenesians and play to their strengths by chucking it around too much. If Scotland play sensible possession and territory against Samoa and Fiji they should beat both. England tend to do better than wales in the respect even though most commentators would say wales are currently stronger than England I think they are tactically naive against these south islanders.
    I hope all 6N rugby fans can get behind the NH sides as the reputation of european rugby is again at stake.

  • Comment number 61.

    As a Rugby League fan ,this game did nothing to change my opinion that union is the most over hyped,over televised sport in the world !
    Australia were truly awful,so what the condition were bad,but to watch a whole game and not see a pass of over 3 yards had me nodding off and wishing i had Sky +`d a couple of episodes of Homes Under The Hammer

  • Comment number 62.

    1) By no means was this a "second string" Australia. Genia is perhaps the best 9 ATM, Barnes is a really good 10, Ioane is world class, normally, and Pocock is considered as one of the best 7's in world rugby. Also, the remaining players are some of the best of super 15 rugby, not to mention Adam Ashley Cooper, perhaps the best player in his team (Waratahs).

    2) A world class team, with a heavier pack, should have no excuses for poor weather.

    3) This was genuinely a great Scottish performance - over 150 tackles!

    There should be no negativity attached to this great Scottish win, or perhaps there should. Maybe there is negativity because many people did not see the game and so cannot give a fair judgement. Which leads to my main point.

    Why was the game not broadcasted on the BBC?! It was in a smaller stadium than Murrayfield and was perhaps the biggest match in Scotland's 2012 calendar! When Scotland plays the AB/SA/AUS at home, the stadium is packed and thousands flock to pubs/sofas to see the game. Why would a game down under have such less viewing figures? It WOULDN'T! I couldn't even find radio commentary for the game!

    This is not good enough BBC. We don't care about coca cola league 2 football matches. We don't care about F1, it's not going to realistically get people more into active sport, give it to ITV. And let's be honest, where's the audience for Olympic archery or Olympic cycling?

    With such a positive win which would inspire many to play the sport esp when the weather's good, why did the BBC decide not to broadcast the games. It's awful.

    Note the last games don't seem to be being televised by sky. Here's your opportunity BBC. You would have the audience. We wouldn't complain if there was no commentary or fancy graphics. Give 3 cameramen a holiday and send them to Fiji and Samoa and give the Scottish fans who don't waste 25 quid a month on a rubbish sport channel rip-off what they want.

    Rant over. I hope you see this John Beattie and pass it on.

  • Comment number 63.

    Typical John Beattie making statements with little foundation in truth. The midweek Test was actually a favour to Scotland who were keen to play the Wallabies before Tests against Fiji and Samoa later in the month.

    John O'Neill: "It's not a schedule that you would normally plan. It won't be happening in future years. This is is a one-off to accommodate particular circumstances with the timing of Scotland's tour to the Pacific Islands."

  • Comment number 64.

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  • Comment number 65.

    I think the Scottish are so used to losing that there getting carried away when they finally win a game. Trying to make out they were shown disrespect because the match was played midweek is just stupid, they have a full tour coming up, what where they supossed to do? Far from being disrespectful I think Australia where actually doing Scotland a favour by fitting them in. And carrying on with nonsense like this isnt going to make people take Scotland more seriously. Lets be honest here, Scotland did well but I'm sure Australia were mainly focused on their match on saturday.

  • Comment number 66.

    Let us not show any disrespect to any nation.. The score sheet and the record book will read.. Australia 6 - Scotland 9.. No sub text. PS it was Australia's weaker team as they were playing Wales on Saturday.
    International teams and players are playing far too many games a year now. Argentina have 12 this season! As soon as anyone is picked to play for their country they are in the eyes of the coach first choice for that game.. End of..
    Scotland deserved their win today. They played the game for 82 minutes and won.. Again no sub text in the record books.. Oh bye the way it was played in Newcastle and it was pissing with rain..
    Move on, job done, Robinson keeps his job and we look forward to the next 3 weeks of North v South match ups then the new rugby championship in August until Oct, then the Autumn tests, then the 6 nations, then the British Lions tour.. get the point?

  • Comment number 67.

    Excellent - well done Scotland. Don't get wound up by the inevitable "yes, but" comments.

    Good spirit, great result. Good for Scottish authorities for standing by Andy Robinson too.

    And I'm a sassenach.

  • Comment number 68.

    Someone gives John Beattie too much responsibility on the sporting columns.

    It was a second string Australian side. Period. Scotland won and full and sincere congratulations. I can't take it any further than that. Weather played its part considerably and that wind could have blown the ball in any team's direction!

    Australia are number two for good reason, these results don't happen that often. Put Scotland in the Tri-Nations and see how they go.

    Scotland's foreseeable fixture results will read like this LLLLLLLLLLLLLWLLLLLLLLLL

  • Comment number 69.

    As Andy Robinson says, "a win is a win" and we should be thankful. It's been too long. No Aussie team is bad and we did well to win especially in putting in a tremendous defensive effort. Let's just enjoy the win. I think we should thank Australia for fitting in a game in an otherwise busy schedule. I don't think it was disrespect. One other thing, does anyone know if the Fiji and Samoa games are on television?

  • Comment number 70.

    @68 There were I believe 5 new caps in the Aussie line-up whilst Scotland were missing Jim Hamilton, Kelly Brown, Dave Denton, Max Evans and Lee Jones all first team regulars.

    Both teams were under-strength and the Aussies have far superior player resources to Scotland.

    Not sure what team you support but I'll bet you'd be chuffed with an away win vs Aus.

  • Comment number 71.

    Great news to hear of the win! Just a shame I can't watch it as I don't have Sky and there's not many photos perhaps due to the weather!

  • Comment number 72.

    Does anyone know if Kelly Brown will play again for Scotland? We have a good 8 and 6 in Stro, Bar...

  • Comment number 73.

    Forget about the dill weed that said it does not float his boat (England supporter?) Magic win and the Aussies only have themselves to blame if indeed they did 'save their players for the first test on Saturday' HAHAHA. Back to back wins over these guys! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Love it!

  • Comment number 74.

    As a Welshman I loved every second of it our Celtic cousins beating Australia after a very disappointing six nations campaign where they played some good rugby but couldn't score tries. Scotland deserve this conditions were the same for both sides Scotland just adjusted to them better and stuck to their guns. it shows to never underestimate your opponent, Scotland need to keep a good leveled headed now and not have a hangover from the success.

    Good luck to Scotland in their campaign and score some damn tries,you can do it just believe in yourselves, it will come.

  • Comment number 75.

    Was having a look at The Australian newspaper website.

    In a report by Bret Harris on the Australia-Scotland game, Wallabies coach Robbie Deans is quoted as saying: "We lacked a bit of clarity in our direction in terms of banking games like that. I guess it's not in our DNA. It's an art we have to develop."

    Whit?

    If he talks like that to the players, no wonder they lack clarity in their direction.
    Management-speak at its worst. What he means ( think) is: "We should have put them away, and it's time we learned to beat these small teams."

    And a lot of excuses in the report about new caps, weather etc.

    We hear plenty about good Scotland performances in defeat - which are countered by the argument that only one thing matters in international rugby...winning.

    In this game, Scotland won; Australia lost. Enjoy the win and give these Scots lads some credit.

  • Comment number 76.

    Well done Scotland.
    Re wet conditions- haven't played for a while (20 years) but can well remember playing in similar conditions. It is easier to catch a wet ball with sleeves on your shirt!

  • Comment number 77.

    As a Welshman, I'd love a victory over Oz and I don't care if it comes in a gritty, muddy defensive slog - what matters is the score, and the belief that it brings.

    But Scotland have to start to win in the 6 Nations. The odd win, however great, isn't a substitute for habitual victory.

  • Comment number 78.

    well done scotland just keep building on this

  • Comment number 79.

    Well done Scotland! No doubt Aussies will be chalking this up to the weather and the fielding of an 'experimental' Wallaby side but that is all bunk and Eales warned them the prior day not to take the fixture lightly.

    I'm happy for the team, the fans, and the management despite being an England fan. Their tour is already a success.

  • Comment number 80.

    @70

    I support England and we've had our fair share of 'special' wins against the top three. You also forget that Australia were also missing their captain, O'Connor, Beale etc to injuries along with resting others. This was by far a weak Australian side. Stop kidding yourselves. I would be bitter too if it was England who won and a majority of the public were making 'excuses' about weather, injuries etc for the opposition but let's be real... it made a seriously difference for Scotland.

  • Comment number 81.

    "...........in a far-flung location."

    There are many "far-flung locations" in Australia, as you would assume with a country of nearly 3 million square miles, but Newcastle it not one of them. If there is any disrespect, then it's probably from the writer of this blog who obviously needs to spend more time researching where his team are playing.

  • Comment number 82.

    Lots said about the game today. Good win for the Scots in atrocious conditions....the same for both teams !! Lots of comments about squint lineout throws.....never mind that !! WHEN are the referees going to start penalising crooked feeds...a lot worse than one or two crooked feeds....some of the Aussie feeds went in to the second row...45%....sort this out IRB and level the playing field for both teams...then the scrums will start to mean something again !!
    Hope Robinson keeps his replacements down as well....the scrum was much better going the whole 80 minutes, though Cusiter was key in winning two turnover balls / penalties !! Good luck against the Samoa & Fiji....potential banana skins waiting there !!

  • Comment number 83.

    @81

    Well said. Someone needs to moderate John Beattie's blogs.

  • Comment number 84.

    Clive Woodward had an article in this week's Sundy Times, suggesting that British and Irish teams should have nothing to fear from playing the big three southern teams away. Go there and show them what we can do, he says.

    Well, Scotland have done just that. It wasn't a pretty game, and on another day Scotland might have lost by a couple of points. On a dry day they may have lost by more than that. But they got the job done, a bit like an inexperienced England at Murrayfield this year. Clive, as a Brit, should be proud of them.

    But his article mentioned England in SA, Wales in Australia and Ireland in NZ. Not a mention of Scotland nor their fixtures.

    A lot has been said here about disrespect between Scotland and Australia where none is intended. Surely Woodward's article shows the biggest disrespect of all.

    Yes, I know Scotland are only playing Australia once - but they are one of the big three, and they beat them. It's also worth saying that Scotland are visiting Samoa and Fiji and hence encouraging these smaller nations both morally and finacially with home fixtures, whereas some of the bigger nations are not interested in going.

  • Comment number 85.

    Not_so_great_britain is clearly a troll - ignore him and his sad, sorry, pathetic, solo, bedroom at home with mum activities.

    He doesn't speak for England - he speaks for sad, sorry, lonely men who never played the game.

  • Comment number 86.

    So why can't we beat the also rans in the 6 Nations? Well done, even if the weather might have helped a bit, now GET INTO GEAR AND CARRY IT ON INTO NEXT SEASON!

    Still want rid of the English coach....

  • Comment number 87.

    Adam at *7

    Can we keep the word "Disrespect" where it belongs-on a soccer blog. If ever there was a word that deserves banning, that's the one.
    Well done Scotland, conditions were the same for both sides and the stronger side (physically) won, so "Yah Boo sucks to you" Australia!!!!!!

  • Comment number 88.

    Just reading these posts, there are an awful lot of folk with chips on their shoulders about the Scots, aren't there?

  • Comment number 89.

    During the 6 Nations there were a lot of comments about Scotland playing well and losing, and people saying but they lost.

    Today they won, so surely on the same basis, performance is irrelevant.

    So full credit to adapting to the conditions and winning, as a Welsh fan I would be happy with a win against Australia, 3-0 if needs be.

    Scotland shouldn't get carried away, but it is definitely something to build on for the future.

  • Comment number 90.

    A little harsh to say the Aussies didn't show us respect. Robbie Deans was clear that he was wary of Scotland.

  • Comment number 91.

    For Scotland to come off a dire 6 nations and grind out a win in such a way against Australia is a terrific achievement. The Aussies have never put out a team to lose a match, and the final 2 minutes will have killed them. It just goes to show that tri-nations rugby is not the best preparation for the highest forms of the international game. :)

  • Comment number 92.

    just finished watching the game, brilliant! Its amazing how a win for Scotland has brought out the internet trolls, cant believe that we won in the Southern hemisphere and people are still knocking it. If people have nothing constructive to say go and play on facebook. Agreed it wasnt pretty but this was physical and gritty. I like many people, I'm sure, thought the second half would see Australia run rampant with the wind at their backs but Scotland's defence was outstanding. Well done Scotland.

  • Comment number 93.

    All round it's been a great couple of days - Andy Murray does us proud/flies the flag in the French Open, the Queen of Scotland (and of Britain I believe!) celebrates 60 years and of course Scotland beat Australia to top it all off.......I raise a glass of single malt to them all!
    Slange var!

  • Comment number 94.

    "What's that, Skippy? There's been a terrible accident? You bet there has."
    BAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

  • Comment number 95.

    Amazing result and couldn't have come at a better time for Scotland after the 6N results. For all the people moaning about the quality of the game, quality of the opposition etc etc; frankly, I couldn't care less. After a few near misses in the RWC and then 6N, and our subsequent slide down the rankings, an away win against the team ranked second in the world is worth shouting about to the high heavens. Admittedly, a few of my Aussie friends are getting a bit sick of it already..

    Tomorrow, I'll come back down to Earth and start worrying about whether we can beat Fiji and / or Samoa. As all of us Scotland supporters know, one swallow does not a summer make.

    Mind you, two consecutive victories against the Aussies in the rain might just make my summer yet..

  • Comment number 96.

    Not so sure the result would've been the same had the weather not been so horrendous. Handling errors and slippy footing makes defending a lot easier. Right up Scotlands road this, no need for skill or invention - just as well. Best bit of footwork all game came during the celebratory headbutt - says it all really!!

  • Comment number 97.

    Today's match is what true sport is about. The prawn sandwich brigade may try to tell you differently but there is more to any decent sport than just skill. The Scots will have looked at today's conditions and known immediately that they would be tested physically and they stood up to that test.

    The game WAS a classic and will be remembered for a long time by sports fanatics (if not by Strokosch and his mate....)

  • Comment number 98.

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  • Comment number 99.

    Don't you dare apologise for gloating John. We have suffered enough of the welsh gloating over the last few months. Australia fielded a team which they though would beat us. If we are honest - we were convinced it would beat us. But that should only enhance the credit. No one was crying about the so called weakened team before hand that's for sure. I think 3 new caps is much more impact for a team low on confidence and ranked 12th in the world than the No.2 ranked team who finished 3rd in the world cup having beaten the "mighty" Wales twice the last 7 months. Lap it up boys! You deserve it.

    Changing the subject slightly John. Hows the little scrum half Murray McConnell getting on John? I remember seeing him as 16 or 17 year old against Hawks a couple of years ago. I was quite excited by him. I'm overseas just now and have lost touch with the game. Cheers

  • Comment number 100.

    Not seen the game and am unlikley to do so as I don't have Sky but I'll say this, we beat Australia down under and that is one hell of an achievement for us so enjoy it and look forward to the next 2 games that might put us further up the rankings. By the way, does anyone know why the draw for the RWC is held 3 years before the tournament ?. Bit mad innit.

 

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