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Suresh Kalmadi: A long way from sorry

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James Pearce | 14:04 UK time, Monday, 11 October 2010

What stands out more than anything else is Suresh Kalmadi's confidence - the confidence of a man who wields the power that comes with the title of chairman of the Commonwealth Games organising committee.

As he walked towards the television camera, which we had set up outside his house for the interview, he looked at me, pointed at his manicured lawn and proclaimed: "This is the finest garden in the whole of Delhi."

When you have faced the level of international criticism that has been hurled in the direction of the Delhi organising committee over the past few months, confidence is probably an essential characteristic.

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Kalmadi admitted to me that there had been times recently when he thought that some countries would boycott the Games. In fact, during the course of our 20-minute interview that was the only time when he showed any sign of fallibility, of accepting that this event had been in any danger of not turning out the way he had planned.

There is no doubt that there are some genuine positives in the organising committee's pluses and minuses columns. For example, during our interview with Kalmadi, we hardly touched on the issue of security. There did not seem to be much point as the security operation here has gone according to plan so far. Considering all the fears that had been raised before the Games - and I do not want to tempt fate by saying too much prematurely - keeping the athletes and spectators safe in Delhi would have to rank as the most important achievement.

It is also true that spectator numbers have risen dramatically during the past few days. The hockey stadium was packed for Sunday's match between India and Pakistan, while the athletics venue was even close to capacity on Sunday evening.

Kalmadi argued that at these Games, like so many others, numbers would continue to pick up after the slow start. He correctly pointed out that there had been many empty seats at the Beijing Olympics. The difference in Delhi, though, is that it has not only been a case of a few empty seats. It has been a case of almost completely empty venues. I have covered many major international events and I have never seen as many spare seats as I did in the first week of these Games.

Kalmadi blamed this on tickets wasted by sponsors and stakeholders but the problem has to be deeper than that. Whatever the ticketing problems, though, the fact that venues are now filling up is another big positive for these Games.

What about the negatives? You have heard them all before... the delay in finishing the athletes' village, the collapse of a footbridge, the problem with the boxing scales that led to the weigh-in being delayed by a day and, yes, those poor ticket sales.

Well, Kalmadi is not in a hurry to admit mistakes were made. I tried to push him into making an apology but sorry is not a word that he feels the need to utter. When I asked him if anybody was owed an apology, he replied: "If some things are wrong then we'll definitely talk about it." That's a long way from sorry.

Empty seats at the men's 100m heats

The sight of empty seats has plagued the first week of the Games. Photo: AFP

Again, it is only fair I should give Kalmadi some defence here. Some areas are not his responsibility, like the footbridge, but some are, like the athletes' village. And his comments about the photos taken inside the village in the days leading up to the Games will be controversial.

Kalmadi claimed that the rooms that had been photographed had never been intended to be used by athletes. He said that they were only for staff. If true, then the world's media has been guilty of serious misrepresentation. However, many of the competing countries will dispute Kalmadi's version of events. The photographs were taken by one nation's delegation here and were taken because that delegation was so appalled by the state of the accommodation being offered.

Kalmadi's comments about Glasgow 2014 can also be considered to be a little undiplomatic. He told me that Glasgow might struggle to match Delhi in terms of scale and in the size of the athletes' village. Many in Glasgow have been worried about the damage that the problems in Delhi could do to the Commonwealth Games brand, so they are unlikely to take kindly to suggestions that these Delhi Games could end up being bigger and better than theirs.

Criticism, though, is something that Kalmadi is clearly capable of taking on the chin. When I asked him for his reaction to being booed at the opening ceremony, he denied he had been booed at all. It all goes back to that confidence. He believes in himself and his dream for Delhi 2010.

Encouragingly for Kalmadi, the people of Delhi seem to be backing that dream in increasing numbers. He might not have managed yet to persuade the rest of the world about the success of these Games but I can confidently predict that he will be greeted by cheers not jeers at Thursday's closing ceremomy.

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  • 1. At 3:39pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    What else he could do? Reporters are just going around and looking for negative things all the time and reporting them more than the actual sport/games.I am sure this games will set a example in different ways controversy,learning points,scale of organisation and success etc. Hopefully glasgow games will match or better than the Delhi games.I can't see a small country(not sure if it is a country as it is part of UK) like scotland matching the scale and might of the current games.I has seen the website of the cwg2014 and it looks ok nothing great or new proposed.Will see.

    Just out of interest what is the actual source of the games village photos and would like to see someone forward and claim the date and time they took the pictures.

    One filthy toilet or accomadtion is not the reflection of the whole village at that time.

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  • 2. At 3:52pm on 11 Oct 2010, The Waugh Twins wrote:

    I think no more needs to be said about Kalmadis credibiity. Anyone who feels "servants" should have lower class amenties to this standard, and is openly happy and proud to tell everyone is living in the past, about 2000 years in the past. Time to evolve Kalmadi.
    I doubt he's telling the truth anyway, but if he is he should still be ashamed of himself.

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  • 3. At 3:58pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:



    The whole common wealth is a farce .This shoul be scrapped .

    The Commonwealth: from courage to cowardice





    he real Commonwealth scandal is closer to home, at the governing body's headquarters in London..

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/the-delhi-games-have-been-chaotic-but-the-real-commonwealth-scandal-is-closer-to-home-at-the-governing-bodys-headquarters-in-london-2101821.html

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  • 4. At 3:59pm on 11 Oct 2010, Djbungo wrote:

    I'm sorry but does anyone else see a problem with his excuses? It wasn't meant for the competitors, only for staff?? Oh so that's fine then, it's fien to put the staff in the bad conditions then....no more needs to be said on the topic, we can all live happily knowing at least the athletes will be OK. Come On! Surely an event of this magnitude should have decent accomodation for all concerned. There have been huge liscalculations on the side of the organisers and while things may have been blown out of proportions, using the excuses that have been given and blaming it on a "developing country" (typical overly P.C. British mentality here refusing to use 3rd world anymore) just doesn't hold water after looking at what China put on. No-one expects anything onthe scale of China....but some of the events of the past few weeks, no matter how hyped up by the media, should not have happened. Anyone who try's to make this into anything other than a shambles is kidding themselves...all I hope is the rest of the games goes off a lot smoother. I'm tired of hearing negative thigns and just want to enjoy the sports!

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  • 5. At 4:00pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

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  • 6. At 4:08pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

    Competitors will be housed in accommodation normally used by students. There are concerns that the Games' organisers will be under extreme pressure to have rooms ready between the students leaving in early summer and the Games starting on 25 July. The capacity has also been questioned, as has the standard compared to previous major events.


    sorry this was for manchester village..LOL

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/manchesters-athletes-village-causes-concern-653046.html

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  • 7. At 4:11pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sir Ad E Noid wrote:

    When the Games were awarded to Delhi, anyone with an honest view would have predicted that these problems would have occurred. Why is anyone in the least bit surprised?

    Frankly, I've been completely underwhelmed by the Games (like the Indian public) and wonder whether it's time to scrap the whole thing. Many of the top performers are really not interested in being there.

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  • 8. At 4:15pm on 11 Oct 2010, supersmude wrote:

    I hope Glasgow don't try to do "bigger and better". What is needed is decent accomodation and well organised events. The obscene amount of money spent trying to emulate the host country before them is just silly.I wish a country would have the guts to organise a small welcoming opening ceremony and let the events speak for themselves.
    Maybe there is a case for one or two venues which are alternated.

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  • 9. At 4:18pm on 11 Oct 2010, free_verse wrote:

    I don't understand the compulsion to extract an 'apology' from Suresh Kalamdi. The Indian media, not so long ago, was at at too. He did not come forth with a 'sorry' for them and he sure as hell is not going to do it for international media.

    Attempting to pin all the blame for whatever has gone wrong on Mr. Kalmadi would amount to making him a scapegoat for larger problems (of corruption) that afflict public life in India.

    I do not see the point in trying to get Mr. Kalmadi's opinion on the jeering crowd at the opening ceremony. It's irrelevant. At this stage, when the Games are still in progress, it would not be the best tactic to admit to the shortcomings, if any, in the preparations. Of course he is going to want to exude confidence. I don't blame him.

    It seems like he wants to genuinely highlight the achivements of the Games which include a fantastic Village and excellent stadiums (no matter how much the western reporting chooses to ignores them). He is just being politically incorrect in drawing unwarranted comparisons. His confidence comes across as vain but what is he supposed to do when surrounded by incessant negative reporting, from western media in particular. He should be brought to book for his wrongdoings, but lets leave that to inquiry committees. At least he should get credit where it is due.

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  • 10. At 4:21pm on 11 Oct 2010, tomaroon wrote:

    Aru - here's the source (from BBC Sport):

    "The pictures, showing dirty sinks, shower cubicles, toilets and bed linen as well as exposed wiring and flooding outside the buildings, were taken a few days before teams were due to arrive.

    They were taken by (Scottish) team officials appalled by the state of the accommodation being offered to them."

    Kalmadi is lying.
    I'm sorry if this offends you, but there is no other word for it.

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  • 11. At 4:24pm on 11 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #3, #5, #6 oh look, more negativity from you again, saying how rubbish you think England is. You don't want to accept any criticism about India, despite the fact many of your compatriots are perfectly happy to accept those things that have not gone well, whilst managing to not aggressively adopt a racist/offensive stance towards England. It is possible to constructively criticise something/someone without resorting to barely concealed hatred.

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  • 12. At 4:25pm on 11 Oct 2010, jeremiah wrote:

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  • 13. At 4:25pm on 11 Oct 2010, Wicked_Witch_of_the_West_Coast wrote:

    He said those rooms were for 'servants', which I think says a great deal about him. Especially as he didn't seem to be too bothered at the condition of said 'servants quarters'!

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  • 14. At 4:34pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sushil Kumar wrote:

    You as a reporter are not different than other tabloids when You are looking for tangy negatives to satisfy your countrymen in the games. Its obscene to see that commendable effort coming from the developing country is over and again left unacknowledged. Hypocrisy that I must call when you count few positives before bringing in the list of complaints and bantering. You could have provided better account of organizing staff or the security in helping you in your day to day activities during the games instead of exploring the sense of guilt in Mr. kalmadi. I don't know if people in the world only eager to listen "sorry" from organizers of the event. I must bring to notice here that CWGs were granted to India by a democratic vote and it reflected that there is a sense of recognition that developing world should be promoted for hosting these big events. If the developed countries takes the honor of promoting the third world, why would then compare the third world with the developed and rich nations while they are in the process to build. Its a senseless approach and dragging in effect. Let me acknowledge that as an delhiite lived about 23 years of my life that despite all complaints that are hyped by the media "specially from outside India", current CWGs have been better than others hosted in the past and Delhi overachieved its target by building infrastructure to the grade that is far above than London or Paris. On this discussion board I would take the privilege to hail Delhi for hosting all CWG nation with love and care and hope that when they go back they bring harmony instead of animosity towards us. Because while hosting we hoped so and did the best in our capability as so called "third world nation" by someone in comments posted above.

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  • 15. At 4:35pm on 11 Oct 2010, peterkirk1 wrote:

    I think when you talk about Kalmadi's 'confidence' you are really meaning 'arrogance'.

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  • 16. At 4:35pm on 11 Oct 2010, maint123 wrote:

    he was wrong and you are right.
    the fact is that they were for the british and aussies as befitting their class.
    Indian staff would never go near those accomodations.

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  • 17. At 4:38pm on 11 Oct 2010, Wicked_Witch_of_the_West_Coast wrote:

    [1. At 3:39pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Hopefully glasgow games will match or better than the Delhi games.I can't see a small country(not sure if it is a country as it is part of UK) like scotland ...]

    I can assure you, Aru, that Scotland IS a country! Why, we even have a team in Delhi right now - or hadn't you noticed?


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  • 18. At 4:44pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

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  • 19. At 4:47pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sushil Kumar wrote:

    Obviously we noticed Scotland for its scotch and yeah for the team that is competing in Delhi. But its Scotland which never fails to go unnoticed so its not a problem of ARU that he could not :-)) Anyways is Scotland recognised by IOC??? Wales too???

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  • 20. At 4:56pm on 11 Oct 2010, raghuram wrote:

    ""He believes in himself and his dream for Delhi 2010."" Give us a break!!!!
    Lets face facts, if it was not for the hundreds of faceless people who were working overtime to make this games a success, Mr. Kalmadi would have fallen flat on his face. He and his clones literally screwed up the games from the day one. Mr. Kalmadi and the people associated with the games have a lot to answer, it is not something which the people of this country are going to forgive or forget. The whole world would have been laughing at us had it not been for the timely intervention of the Prime Minister of India. Adding insult to the injury was the efforts by unscrupulous elements to sabotage the games and the photos of the games village which was leaked to the media is the biggest example. No country would have handed over a games village to the athletes in that condition and certainly not a country like India. India is a country which has always treated its guests with utmost respect. In a country like India there might be issues regarding public hygiene, but hygiene in any middle class home has always been a priority dating back to centuries (even before hygiene become the mantra in the west). I do not agree with Mr. Kalmadi's excuse that the rooms featured in the photos were for the staff, he has to accept that there have been hiccups in the finishing of the games village; but at the same time, I doubt the authenticity of those photos. I think somebody with a malicious intent of bringing disrepute to India has done this and I hope the government does a thorough investigation into this matter once we are done with the games and the guilty be punished.

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  • 21. At 4:57pm on 11 Oct 2010, Alonsotheloser wrote:

    What a waste of an interview why did the BBC waste tax payer’s money speaking to this man who has no credibility on the world stage.

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  • 22. At 5:29pm on 11 Oct 2010, HishMaj wrote:

    On the brighter side, look at how well the Indians are doing in the medal table in spite of the lack of supporters.

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  • 23. At 5:39pm on 11 Oct 2010, grogroovy wrote:

    It increasingly seems like the BBC have already decided on a a storyline - "Shambolic games - a tale of indias competance". And now the BBC are miserably failing in prooving that.

    James, im sure you will agre, those pictures were taken BEFORE the games started. If I remember correctly atleast a week before the games started.

    The atheletes village, shown by BBC, has stellar accomodtation. If there have been other minor glitches, they have been solved. Everything has been stellar after the atheletes have moved in and the games were conducted in all fairness and in time. Who are you trying to kid?

    Scotland - If you can vigorously train for 20 hours, im sure you can survive in "adequate" accomodations. You guys should try and get more medals. Lets see if you can beat india IN THESE GAMES if not the next cwg!! Shame on Scotland!

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  • 24. At 5:53pm on 11 Oct 2010, G_K___ wrote:

    "What stands out more than anything else is Suresh Kalmadi's confidence"

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    LMAO! James, you surely have to take the laurels for the most diplomatic euphemism of the week.

    What stands out more than anything in his almost incredible arrogance, and failure to admit responsibility for the shambles that has unfolded under his supervision. And for the icing on the cake, those national representatives who lodged complaints about the accommodation are now pretty much being called liars.

    The catalogue of disasters has been bad enough, but the shameless outright refusal to admit to your mistakes and learn from them will surely be what kills any possibility of an India Olympics stone dead.

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  • 25. At 5:56pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sudha2010 wrote:

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  • 26. At 6:00pm on 11 Oct 2010, Djbungo wrote:

    On another lighter note - does anyone else think he looks like Jeebs' brother (ala Men in Black)?

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  • 27. At 6:01pm on 11 Oct 2010, grogroovy wrote:

    It increasingly seems like the BBC have already decided on a a storyline - "Shambolic games - a tale of indias competance". And now the BBC are miserably failing in prooving that.

    James, im sure you will agre, those pictures were taken BEFORE the games started. If I remember correctly atleast a week before the games started.

    The atheletes village, shown by BBC, has stellar accomodtation. If there have been other minor glitches, they have been solved. Everything has been stellar after the atheletes have moved in and the games were conducted in all fairness and in time. Who are you trying to kid?

    Scotland - If you can vigorously train for 20 hours, im sure you can survive in "adequate" accomodations. You guys should try and get more medals. Lets see if you can beat india IN THESE GAMES if not the next cwg!!

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  • 28. At 6:04pm on 11 Oct 2010, cwg-fan wrote:

    Former England rugby player Lawrence Dallaglio:
    "I think the Games have been fantastic - I've been over here for a week and I didn't know what all the fuss is about, sport is taking centre stage."

    Similar to what Mark Lewis Francis said last week. It looks like the situation on the ground in Delhi might actually be better than what these blogging reports will have us believe.


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  • 29. At 6:06pm on 11 Oct 2010, G_K___ wrote:

    The other thing which will prevent India from coming anywhere near hosting the Olympics is surely the crowds. Initially extremely sparse, they picked up only when the home nation began reeling in gold medals by the dozen. This "gold rush" effect would quite simply not occur at an Olympiad, leaving the stadia half-empty - and leaving the locals free, presumably, to enjoy more India-centric entertainments.

    Worst of all, it's now becoming embarrassingly obvious that when the Indian medal interest has finished competing, much of the crowd - bizarrely - seems simply to leave the stadium!

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  • 30. At 6:10pm on 11 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

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  • 31. At 6:10pm on 11 Oct 2010, Ryushinku wrote:

    #20 raghuram
    "Lets face facts, if it was not for the hundreds of faceless people who were working overtime to make this games a success, Mr. Kalmadi would have fallen flat on his face. "

    Very true. It would be nice if some of his bountiful confidence would go towards giving some credit where it's due! There was a phenomenal, applause-worthy effort put in by all those workers and Kalmadi basically downplays it all so he can pretend everything was always going to be fine and people were worrying for nothing.

    I understand his confidence in the matter. I certainly understand his mentality in projecting it, and there has been a lot for India to be proud of in these Games.

    But when you've been tap-dancing on a tightrope above the crocodile pit, it would be nice to give some thanks to the guys that supplied that rope!

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  • 32. At 6:12pm on 11 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #29
    Thats what happens in the cricket when the likes of Sachin Tendulkar are dismissed but in a International tournament like the Commonwealth Games it becomes more noticeable. Perhaps the cultural differences in how the native Indian's feel about sport wasn't fully taken into account, albeit its important for something like the Commonwealth Games to be taken around the nations who are able to hold them.

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  • 33. At 6:14pm on 11 Oct 2010, Gobsmacked wrote:

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  • 34. At 6:29pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    I find it disturbing how fellow Indian's on here are being so hostile and refusing to acknowledge where there have been problems (and being more gracious about discussing them) while being so rude towards other nations competing. Its a sign of a mature country to be able to acknowledge your faults whilst celebrating what is right. We can't expect to do a better job without realising that things have gone wrong in some cases. It would be delusional to be anything else.

    I can only hope that you don't sully our reputation in everyone's eyes by the way you are communicating on this website. Some of you need to calm down and realise that people aren't showing continuous bias against India.

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  • 35. At 6:30pm on 11 Oct 2010, Richard Mallett wrote:

    I'm afraid that India has proved that it is a third world country. It is totally unacceptable that the accommodation and the running track should have been in such a dreadful condition when the games were about to start. The BBC said the accommodation was unfit for human habitation, which applies to athletes or to staff; and the running track was clearly uneven, which is unacceptable for a world class event. The Commonwealth Games Federation must take some of the blame for not predicting that this would happen, and taking steps to prevent it.

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  • 36. At 6:36pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    I wrote to BBC asking the source of the games village picture and there is no reply.There are claims these pictures were taken in different area other than atheles accomdation and 3months before the start of games.Its time whoever took the pictures come forward and clarify the situation.I can see scotland team officials claim to have taken these picutres few days before the start.This is new news for everyone as BBC was claiming that these pictures came from unknown source previously when it was showing them in the news. Now the scottish team officials claim them,not sure what is true and is there someone trying to delebirately patch this up.

    IF THE PICTURES REPRESENT THE SITUATION OF WHOLE GAMES VILLAGE THEN THERE IS NO WAY THEY COULD HAVE SORTED THE WHOLE VILLAGE IN A WEEK.

    There is no single complaint from a any athelete about the village and its conditions till now.This is what you get when you come to Manchester to participate in games.Student accomdation which is not ready!!!!!!!!!!.LOL.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/manchesters-athletes-village-causes-concern-653046.html
    Lets just see what the top athletes say rather than read some of the biased negative reporting.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9067272.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9053424.stm
    http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/75486-2010-games-village-best-ever-history-cwg-fennel.html

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  • 37. At 6:42pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Why should he say sorry and who should he sorry to?
    Looks like this reporter is a sorry hunter with negativism and pessimism in mind then be happy.

    None of the atheletes complained about the games village till now and all the positive comments are not shown well in BBC.

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  • 38. At 6:43pm on 11 Oct 2010, Gobsmacked wrote:

    @35; since when has the definiation of a 'third world country' been based on its ability to host a sporting jolly?

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  • 39. At 6:44pm on 11 Oct 2010, Gobsmacked wrote:

    @37; he should say sorry to the people of India for shaming them when it was not their fault.

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  • 40. At 6:59pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #36 & #37

    I wish to disavow you from anything to do with speaking for me and my country. If you can't stop being so negative and anti-western, please do not say anything at all. Do you realise the harm you do? Please read what has been written and apologise.

    All you are doing is pursing an agenda in an aggressive manner that is deeply upsetting. Please stop!

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  • 41. At 7:04pm on 11 Oct 2010, Nipun Goel wrote:

    WHY SHOULD HE APOLOGIES!!!!? ITS THE MEDIA WHO OWE HIM AN APOLOGY!!!!

    Considering the amount of challanges and very little experience I think he has done a great job. All athletes/visitors are enjoying and happy with all the facilities they have got in the games village....its no less than Melbourne or Manchester where athletes had to stay in a university dormitory.

    All those empty seats are mainly because of negative publicity and criticism done by media all over the world. Greatly exaggerated and unfair bad press had costed India a fortune for which WORLD MEDIA OWE HIM AN APOLOGY!!!

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  • 42. At 7:07pm on 11 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Aru - I think you shouldn't comment on things you know nothing about.

    My boyfriend is in the village and has been for nearly two weeks. The second day they had to go out and buy mattresses because they were horrendous and make their own shower curtain as there wasnt one and every time anyone used the shower it flooded the whole room. They have all been horribly ill; a lot more people are sick than suggested in the press. The athletes have also been advised to not comment negatively to the press about the village. I will also highlight the fact that MLF had only been in the village for about a day when he made those comments so probably hadn't experienced a lot of things that the other athletes have, and as for Lawrence Dallagio - he's not even staying in the village!! Those that are there can't wait to come home. Some athletes have had phones, ipods, cameras stolen from their rooms whilst not there, and workers sleeping in their laundry room...if there are separate rooms for these workers that these photos are supposedly from then why are they sleeping in the athletes buildings??

    I think some people should just be quiet with their opinions without all the facts. Maybe the real story will come out once these games are over.

    As for Kalmadi's comments about Glasgow, he's a very arrogant man. He WAS booed and if he actually apologised maybe he would get a bit of respect. He's just making himself look even more of an idiot pretending that everything is wonderful and "best games ever", what a joke! I think he's damaged both his and India's reputation. As for Jacques Rogge's comment that this farce wont damage India's chances of hosting the Olympics in 2020, I very much doubt that.

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  • 43. At 7:16pm on 11 Oct 2010, iLoveBbc wrote:

    There is no point to confess to BBC which spread few unclean toilet pictures with malicious intent (you could find more copies of those pictures in this website than that of Games mascot ‘shera’). Even enemies (if there is one!?) wouldn’t imagine India would ask athletes to move in to flats with those toilets and sinks. But, there is “no doubt” kalmadi and his mates would (have to!) say a big sorry to Indian government and its public soon after the end of event for their deliberate delays which could have avoided proper co-ordination from beginning. Union finance ministry started looking through the CWG budget and spending; and soon there would be big notice on media if any financial scam happened in any level of management.

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  • 44. At 7:18pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #41 do you bother reading anything written on here? Please read what I've written and then try taking a more balanced approach. That man is showing the same kind of delusion as you are in not standing up and taking responsibility for what has gone wrong. He and us as a country would earn much more respect if he did, as well as make clear that work has been done to try and improve things. It sounds like, from reading #42, that anecdotal evidence suggests plenty is still wrong there.

    I know this sort of thing is not the sole preserve of India, but we do ourselves no good if we try and brush it under the carpet.

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  • 45. At 7:31pm on 11 Oct 2010, BlueLotus85 wrote:

    Thus, a negative question put to the chairman of the Commonwealth Games Federation, Mike Fennell, by a BBC interviewer became the story's headline with no regard for the answer which completely dismissed the question.
    Further, after reports that the Athletic Village was uninhabitable and unhygienic, sections of the media again and again asked athletes if they were dissatisfied with conditions. Very positive answers that the conditions were fine and that the athletes were perfectly satisfied did not stop the question from being repeatedly asked.
    The Western media were also parsimonious in their acknowledgement of the scale of the spectacle and entertainment success of the opening ceremony. Rather, they seized upon the news that a section of the track and field circuit had been damaged during the ceremony. In their view, this meant the cancellation of the track and field events and a complete waste of the years of training that the athletes had invested. No one ate humble pie when, 15 hours later, the Indian organisers had the track ready for the events to be held

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  • 46. At 7:35pm on 11 Oct 2010, Helloramsfans wrote:

    I am in the middle here. While the preparation for the games was far from perfect, i think that the British media has become obsessed with projecting negative headlines about the games and it seems to me that most of the athletes and people out there are pretty complimentary about the facilities at the games.

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  • 47. At 7:37pm on 11 Oct 2010, Nipun Goel wrote:

    @35 Firstly, check #41
    Secondly, its nothing to do with being a 'third world' country. Thirdly, I wont blame you for your comment... your comment is purely based on what you have seen on the news; its the news I would blame on, blame for all the exaggeration and highly unacceptable and unfair negative publicity. Stuff shown on tele were greatly exaggerated and far from actual situation. Few glitches and poor management has definately been seen before the start but I think that perfectly normal for organising such a big event, especially for a country who is completely new to this.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Negative-publicity-of-CWG-unfair-say-foreign-journalists/articleshow/6728515.cms

    I dont know what perception you have but you should check out what India is and where does it stand in the world, in terms of economy, power, technology, education, history, culture etc

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  • 48. At 7:39pm on 11 Oct 2010, raghuram wrote:

    Olympics Fan wrote:

    Who has forced your boyfriend to stay in the games village in the first place???? He could have well shifted to a five star hotel. I really hope the athletes whose events have gotten over have left to their respective homes if they find the place as deplorable as your are trying to project. India should never have taken the pains to organize CWG, maybe games of this nature are just the privilege of the so called developed nations. In fact India should boycott the Glasgow games.

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  • 49. At 7:39pm on 11 Oct 2010, BlueLotus85 wrote:

    Thus, a negative question put to the chairman of the Commonwealth Games Federation, Mike Fennell, by a BBC interviewer became the story's headline with no regard for the answer which completely dismissed the question.
    Further, after reports that the Athletic Village was uninhabitable and unhygienic, sections of the media again and again asked athletes if they were dissatisfied with conditions. Very positive answers that the conditions were fine and that the athletes were perfectly satisfied did not stop the question from being repeatedly asked.
    The Western media were also parsimonious in their acknowledgement of the scale of the spectacle and entertainment success of the opening ceremony. Rather, they seized upon the news that a section of the track and field circuit had been damaged during the ceremony. In their view, this meant the cancellation of the track and field events and a complete waste of the years of training that the athletes had invested. No one ate humble pie when, 15 hours later, the Indian organisers had the track ready for the events to be held

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  • 50. At 7:43pm on 11 Oct 2010, RobH wrote:

    Perhaps those of you who believe the BBC are stirring it here would like to read this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9079157.stm

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    However, Michael Kavanagh, chairman of Commonwealth Games Scotland, told BBC Sport: "There is no staff accommodation in the village. It simply doesn't exist.

    "That accommodation was intended for athletes and is actually currently being used by athletes as it was cleaned up eventually."

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    BESIDES WHICH, even if you refuse to believe this evidence and instead believe the head of the Indian OC when he says these rooms were for staff, what does it say about Kalmadi that he thinks this accomodation is acceptable for his staff??

    I'm sorry, whichever way you look at this claim - truth or a lie to cover up his organising committee's ineptitude - it stinks.

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  • 51. At 7:44pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #48

    Why are you so deluded!? Her boyfriend is staying in the games village because he is obviously a competitor and the village is meant to be there for them to stay in! All you do is show ignorance and outright rudeness in your response! Despite being a proud Indian, I feel ashamed at what you have said. You are nothing but a disgrace to our country and show cowardice in not addressing what I have said. Have some guts and reply to me. If you are a true Indian, you will apologise right now. Not all athletes could afford to stay in a 5-star hotel, and frankly all you do is make yourself look stupid (and sadly India) by what you write.


    So, show some guts, and respond to me if you will. If you don't, I shall assume you are not a true man.

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  • 52. At 7:53pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

    Roll on the 2012 London olympics

    I hope BBC gets victims their money

    TRADERS are demanding compensation to help them survive during the 2012 roadworks blitz in Weymouth and Portland.

    http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/8442391.Weymouth_traffic_chaos__Traders_demand_compensation/

    Quangos are at loggerheads over legacy of the Games

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/article-23883965-quangos-are-at-loggerheads-over-legacy-of-the-games.do

    London Olympic Park: businesses fight for compensation

    Three years since the capital won the right to stage the 2012 Olympic Games, dozens of businesses that had to make way for the Olympic Park in East London are still fighting for compensation.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/london_2012/article4053975.ece

    I hope London 2012 games victims will get their justice.

    over to you BBC.

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  • 53. At 7:56pm on 11 Oct 2010, brider wrote:

    So kalmadi has the finest lawn in Delhi while people he calls servants, still rampant in India, have to live and work in squalor for a pittance. Surely kalmadi has put his foot in it same as Lalit modi did at cricket.

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  • 54. At 8:00pm on 11 Oct 2010, a1276 wrote:

    Why is James so adamant about getting a "sorry". Who should he apologize to. Is there any athelete unhappy with the village. Did James himself had to live in any unhabitable place.

    Just move on and enjoy the games.

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  • 55. At 8:02pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #40.

    At 6:59pm on 11 Oct 2010, Pradeep1234 wrote:
    #36 & #37

    I wish to disavow you from anything to do with speaking for me and my country. If you can't stop being so negative and anti-western, please do not say anything at all. Do you realise the harm you do? Please read what has been written and apologise.


    If some people feel that presenting facts is outrageous i can't help it.I am just trying to establish the truth .The atheletes interviews themselves show the truth not the unsourced pictures from BBC.

    Anyhow i am enjoying the games and the ariel views of Delhi shown in yesterdays cycle race were gr8.

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  • 56. At 8:03pm on 11 Oct 2010, grogroovy wrote:

    WRITTEN BY Mick Hume is editor-at-large of spiked.
    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9710/

    "Yet something else makes me want these games to be a success for India. There is a new orthodoxy abroad which preaches that staging major sporting events can benefit the peoples of developing nations and help to unite the world. This is pious nonsense, as the experience of the recent World Cup in South Africa has demonstrated once more. But the alternative sanctimonious prejudice of our age is, if anything, even worse. This one preaches that there is something ‘arrogant’ or ‘obscene’ about a developing nation such as India daring to attempt grand projects such as the Delhi games, rather than concentrating its efforts on the poorest. Thus the critics protest loudly about the ‘resettlement’ of thousands of shanty town-dwellers to make way for the stadium – the sort of slum clearance that always accompanies major urban redevelopment – and ignore the new airport, subway lines, roads and railway bridges that the bloated budget for the games has brought to the city. The message to India is: know your place. But the backlash in India against the international Delhi-bashing suggests there is as little chance of that happening as of Prince Charles winning a medal next week"

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  • 57. At 8:04pm on 11 Oct 2010, grogroovy wrote:

    WRITTEN BY Mick Hume, who is the editor-at-large of spiked.
    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9710/

    "Yet something else makes me want these games to be a success for India. There is a new orthodoxy abroad which preaches that staging major sporting events can benefit the peoples of developing nations and help to unite the world. This is pious nonsense, as the experience of the recent World Cup in South Africa has demonstrated once more. But the alternative sanctimonious prejudice of our age is, if anything, even worse. This one preaches that there is something ‘arrogant’ or ‘obscene’ about a developing nation such as India daring to attempt grand projects such as the Delhi games, rather than concentrating its efforts on the poorest. Thus the critics protest loudly about the ‘resettlement’ of thousands of shanty town-dwellers to make way for the stadium – the sort of slum clearance that always accompanies major urban redevelopment – and ignore the new airport, subway lines, roads and railway bridges that the bloated budget for the games has brought to the city. The message to India is: know your place. But the backlash in India against the international Delhi-bashing suggests there is as little chance of that happening as of Prince Charles winning a medal next week"

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  • 58. At 8:12pm on 11 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    #48 - if you knew anything about this you would know that at Olympics and CWG there is a central village for athletes to stay in. It is the responsibility of the HOST NATION to provide adequate accommodation. They do not have a chance to stay in a 5* hotel, and in any case they would not have 5* accom. as the governing bodies cannot afford it, and neither should they have to as it is part of the agreement of being a host nation. You should also stop making this a nation against nation thing, it is not. People are not criticising india as a nation, more the corrupt nature of the organising committee. I would think that anyone that refers to the workers as "servants" is not really the type of person that gives a damn about anyone other than themselves, even less the nation that they are so badly representing. I echo other people's comments about the fact that Kalmadi has not thanked or paid credit to the hundreds of people that worked solidly and some through the night to help finish parts of the village and sporting facilities.

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  • 59. At 8:12pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #55

    You are not simply trying to establish the facts...

    "There is no single complaint from a any athelete about the village and its conditions till now.This is what you get when you come to Manchester to participate in games.Student accomdation which is not ready!!!!!!!!!!.LOL."

    This is not a fact, therefore you are pushing a lie. The photographs are not unsourced because the Scottish team have declared that they took them - so again, you are not establishing a fact, you are pushing another lie.

    BakedBeans - I have been reading some of your comments too and find that you don't seem to say anything positive whatsoever! Its one thing to stand up for your country, but do it in a balanced way without being rude towards others. I don't want to be associated with some of the racist stuff I've seen you write - I hope everyone realises that not all Indian's are so bigoted as people like this character! He doesn't seem to have the bravery unfortunately to respond to his compatriots who would challenge him however, which would suggest a cowardly streak.

    I'm not proud to be Indian with people like this professing to stand up for my country.

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  • 60. At 8:19pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

    As for the stories of doom and gloom in our press, much of the whingeing is just racism under another name


    Get real ....

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  • 61. At 8:25pm on 11 Oct 2010, a1276 wrote:

    So far a lot of negative publicity has been given by the press and none of them have come true.
    Even if the concerns were true then credit should be given to the Indians that they solved them before it really became a problem.



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  • 62. At 8:30pm on 11 Oct 2010, phillip wrote:

    Nobody or nation likes to be humilated and India has been by over-the-top critiscm. Selling newspapers was put ahead of the countries prestige.

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  • 63. At 8:32pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #60

    Prove its racist, and prove you are NOT being racist! I'm an Indian, and would be ashamed of myself if I had written what you have done. You are too immature to accept anything other than praise for India, and ignoring what has been done wrong in our country. We all have to acknowledge our shortcomings and you've shown all you can do is accuse others of racism - you are lazy in your remarks! I've already challenged you to respond directly to me so take the opportunity to respond to another Indian for once... will you?!

    If you also live in England, I'd love to know why you are incapable of saying positive about being in this country. I hope I never meet you in the real world - you are not an accurate representation of our country.

    I suggest you get real!

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  • 64. At 8:33pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 65. At 8:36pm on 11 Oct 2010, aamody wrote:

    Suresh Kalmadi's refusal to accept blame for the events leading up to the Games displays his arrogance and not, as suggested in this article, confidence. His belief that he was not booed at the opening ceremony is only further proof of this.

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  • 66. At 8:36pm on 11 Oct 2010, Anasuya wrote:

    Organisational ineptitude is the hallmark of this Organising Committee. They cannot be absolved of blame for the negatives on your list. But I want to ask this, was there not a process of due diligence involved in choosing Delhi as a host city? And was that not followed at all? Anybody in world sport who has dealt with Mr Kalmadi as a sports administrator would know what his reputation is all about. But for all the negatives you have listed, I would like to say that the 'damaged' track and the 'toxic' pool were complete non-stories that were created by the western media. The Games will finish, Mr Kalmadi will go on...believing that these were the 'best games ever' (gosh, we've heard that everyday these past 7 years!) The corruption scandals that dominated the headlines in the two months leading upto the Games will be forgotten. And you're right Mr Pearce, he'll never apologise!

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  • 67. At 8:49pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sandalwood23 wrote:

    Would have been nice not to cut things so close to the wire, but current reports do suggest that this is a successful games... the athletes are happy with the games village. The inevitable delhi-belly has got a few athletes, but its not a matter of unhygenic conditions at the village or venues. The hosts are doing very, very well at the medals table. And also, we have some colourful sights likes dogs, snakes and eagles... it is India after all, colourful India.

    The opening ceremony was the thing which threw off the initial negativity in the media. It was spectacular, it was sublime, it was something that only India could do. I think there is some jealously at the opening ceremony. No amount of hi-tech, laser-fireworks mumbo jumbo is ever going to match the sheer artistry on display. The diversity, depth and richness of the artistic and spiritual traditions of India is unmatched anywhere. Indians could see how much they have to work with, as they move into the future... and so did the world begin to see, and unfortunately there is some anxiety about that.

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  • 68. At 8:52pm on 11 Oct 2010, Dinesh Patel wrote:

    "Kalmadi claimed that the rooms that had been photographed had never been intended to be used by athletes. He said that they were only for staff. If true, then the world's media has been guilty of serious misrepresentation"

    LOL. Well covered up! You mean the BBC is guilty of serious misrepresentation!!

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  • 69. At 8:56pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #68 you're guilty of misrepresentation - take the trouble to read what the Scottish have said before you make a fool of yourself.

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  • 70. At 8:56pm on 11 Oct 2010, Patinho wrote:

    This dude reminds me of Comical Ali...

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  • 71. At 8:58pm on 11 Oct 2010, bestie07 wrote:

    #62 Phillip, you have in one sentence explained all my worries. I don't mind criticism of the games as they haven't been perfect (although not as bad as the general opinion of them, infact I would say that they have been rather good), and the only people who seem to have faced problems are the locals, who have returned without gaining entry into the stadiums even when they were empty. Yet you don't see much mention of that in this site. I today wrote a one page reply to a person who somehow thought that these games will teach India hygiene. I will take all positive criticism about the games in my stride, but I know when somebody is picking on India for issues which do not concern the games at all.

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  • 72. At 9:05pm on 11 Oct 2010, tomaroon wrote:

    60. At 8:19pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

    As for the stories of doom and gloom in our press, much of the whingeing is just racism under another name

    I was wondering how long it would be before we got this.

    On the other hand, Pradeep1234, you're a credit to both India and the UK.
    Well said.

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  • 73. At 9:15pm on 11 Oct 2010, BakedBeans wrote:

    >>> As for the stories of doom and gloom in our press, much of the whingeing is just racism under another name

    >>I was wondering how long it would be before we got this.

    it was written by porter of independent newspaper.happy?.

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  • 74. At 9:18pm on 11 Oct 2010, bestie07 wrote:

    Pradeep1234 would have been a credit to India if he would have spent a bit of his time defending one little part of whatever most Indians would feel is a gross misrepresentation of the country, instead of just agreeing with whatever be the criticism of the games and criticising every Indian posting on here (although BakedBeans hasn't exactly been giving a good account of India with his posts)

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  • 75. At 9:24pm on 11 Oct 2010, Jason Bourne wrote:

    #74 I have criticised the racism perpetrated by fellow Indian's and the inability to see the whole picture. I don't believe I have criticised every Indian posting, merely the prejudiced parts of them. The press in England (such as the red-top's) are inclined to sensationalise issues, but there is enough evidence from people who won't share that agenda to show me that there are reasons to accept criticism. The guy in charge, whom this blog is about, is similarly delusional to others on here. To earn respect, you need to put up a "sensible" defence. If its an unrealistic defence, it will lack credibility. I want someone who can engender respect standing up for India.

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  • 76. At 9:48pm on 11 Oct 2010, Varun wrote:

    Well i wish the Jawahar Lal Nehru Stadium could have the finest grass in all of Delhi.
    1.BBC shouldn't have done such interview with Suresh Kalmadi because more he speaks more controversial things will become. Perhaps more visits on BBC website and eliciting more comments prompted that. It is the people of Delhi who booed him at the opening ceremony. BBC should get the sense of CWG from delhiites on the street, in the market places.

    2.Things falling in place at the eleventh our is just a routine in our lives for example of marriage or any other function. But even when it comes to hosting an international event like CWG and attracting foreign eyes we repeated the same thing which was unexpected. Problem lies with perception, Delhi has become prosperous and reading that economy is doing well all around with GDP numbers certainly raised expectation very high and hosting meticulously best CWG. And kalmadi started comparing it with beijing olympics which further raised the bar of Indians. Now when matter of delay in completion of venues and security not in place initially by indian media, everyone watched on tv whats going to happen and it soon became matter for hot debate because nationalism was involved. TV news channel TRPs sky rocketed. Sure enough for country like india which has world highest no. of private tv news channel highlighting same things day in and out(nuisance of 24*7 news era), later coupled with sensitive foreign press helped issues to be made worldwide.

    3.Idea for holding the games for India was not just to host 17 events of sports in few stadiums but also to showcase our culture and prowess of budding economic power. To attract tourism not just for a fortnight but again and again. negative publicity after spending millions of dollars become waste in a sense. Management incompetency of govt has been seen by people which might just force investors to think at least twice.

    4.Kalmadi is a politician and glued to the post of president of Indian Olympic Association since 1996 and was reelected in 2008 till 2012 and allegedly in connivance helped 83 years old Vidya Stokes to become president of Hockey India Fed. Everyone and foreigners could under stand how 83 year old will rejuvenate indian hockey. Its pity in describing situation of indian sports to all international audience. And remind you there are many more Kalmadis holding position in different sports organisation and federations.
    He is an arrogant man and will never accept mistake and say sorry genuinely. Just to give example during the felicitation ceremony that had been arranged to honour the three Indian medalists at the 2008 Beijing Olympics, Kalmadi reportedly walked out because he had not been offered a chair next to the Vice-President of India Hamid Ansari.
    Can read at http://www.rediff.com/sports/2008/sep/05guest.htm

    4.Suggestion for BBC- I have trying since 10 oct to get ticket to watch any event from boxing, or badminton, or rugby but it CWG websites [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator] say all sold out. when they are sold why venues are still filled at 50% capacity when last 3 days of competition are left. So arrange an interview or ask credible authority regarding this because something is fishy. Earlier ticketing manager reported to have been taken away the responsiblity from. New Monika Jolly has been the task. Ask her.
    Reports of black selling of tickets also been reported.

    And please dont let Kalmadi talk to media. He is the one who has let india down. thats why people are writing so many comments on cwg all over these days and they all are upset from kalmadi.

    And there are good things and good people are too who are working to keep the games going. Shortcomings are there but as mature countries like England, Australia and Canada must understand and support for India's quest.

    regards

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  • 77. At 9:50pm on 11 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Pradeep1234 your a credit son, and don't deserve to be associated with the others on here. All I can say about the others and Suresh Kalmadi is that they have been talking out of their backside. Uni accomodation is perfectly fine, having to share faclities what are some Indians wanting the atheletes to have. All the competitors want is a decent room and an oppotunity to mix with others, certian people need to stop banging on it's boring

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  • 78. At 9:51pm on 11 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Now Emma Pooley is ill. She's only been there a few days, and it's got nothing to do with the food

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  • 79. At 10:16pm on 11 Oct 2010, v8falcon wrote:

    I thought these were the Friendly Games.

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  • 80. At 10:22pm on 11 Oct 2010, bluevortex wrote:

    Hello all. The problem issues around CWG2010, and the ensuing discussion appears to be generating much negative feeling. There is a sense in which we are all on the same team (planet earth.) I began to write a post in which I tried to make sense of the criticism and countercriticism (fair and unfair.) I then thought: What a waste of my time! So, anyway, I'm not going to fault anyone even though there may be blame. Perhaps it's valid reporting to ferret out what went wrong, what is going wrong (or right) and why and who's at fault. On the other hand, I wonder What problem are we solving. Let's get on with it, have healthy competition, enjoy it, move on... I now resolve to read no more regarding these issues and focus on the sport itself

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  • 81. At 10:35pm on 11 Oct 2010, Miles Mayne wrote:

    I am shocked that Mr Kalmadi links the pictures of dirty toilets and washrooms as being the accomodation prepared for the "servants". To begin with, in this day and age to use the term "servant" is unacceptable. Every person, irrespective of occupation has to be treated with due respect and be provided with accomodation fit for human beings.

    As long as we (Indians)treat people who toil for a living with disrespect and as sub humans, we will never succeed in a globalized world.

    I am also surprised that the International Sporting Federations, allow such bigoted personnel to continue to be heads of sporting organizations in the respective countries, by preventing individual governments in legislating on the rules governing the election and tenure of office bearers in home sports organizations. I think there is room for fresh thinking.

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  • 82. At 10:38pm on 11 Oct 2010, redpreacherman wrote:

    Ref 73.
    "As for the stories of doom and gloom in our press, much of the whingeing is just racism under another name. Of course things were unfinished and the standard of accommodation in the athlete's village was not good. On another level, the rush to patch things up guaranteed work for the road menders, shrub planters and cleaners, carried out by Delhi's poorest citizens, bussed into the site in their thousands to sort things out. There was no threat of Dengue fever, and the city wasn't sitting under a cloud of Deet."
    Having read the full paragraph it's difficult to know just what the racism is that Janet Street-Porter is writing about. The lady certainly suggests that tasks were unfinished and therefore the stories of doom and gloom had at least a basis in fact. I think this is a case of Janet Street-Porter writing tongue-in-cheek and doing what Janet Street-Porter does very well indeed, stirring it!
    The entire article is a dig at large scale sporting events and the writer has been very careful not to specify what if anything is racist. I do wonder Bakedbeans if your attempts at wummery haven't led you to take the comment out of context?

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  • 83. At 10:44pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sandalwood23 wrote:

    Many people that I know who watched the opening ceremony were quite surprised that this was being staged in India. Their notions of what India is became transformed in the process. Despite the minor problem of a few rooms which had yet to be given their final cleaning, and the media constructed non-problems of pool water quality and readiness of the running track, there are via TV encouraging images of beautiful venues and stadia. So I think that those seeing with their own eyes, rather than through the eyes of the over-negative media will have seen something beyond the stereotyped (racial?) image of the bumbling Indian... a la Peter Sellers in The Party. This is an image which is being dumped, finally.

    The Indian athletes are producing a record breaking performance, but for me the opening and closing ceremonies are the most important opportunities of getting your brand-image across. The opening ceremony speaks for itself, and I hear that the theme of the closing ceremony is "Universal Love". But also, it will feature the various forms of martial arts existent in India. I think this a good choice as it will further erode the image of the bumbling, passive Indian. The 21st century will certainly be less unipolar than the 20th century. India is sure to become more prominent on the world stage, in terms of both hard and soft power. Medals and buildings aside... India's artistic, philosophical and spiritual culture has been well showcased in the country's only big opportunity so far to project itself to the rest of the world. Well done all those who took part in this, including Kalmadi.

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  • 84. At 10:55pm on 11 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Minor! MINOR! how the heck is unfinished accomodation minor? The media didn't construct the thing of the unfinished track there is video footage the day before the first event of workers concreating and laying the track and grass. Please do not lie

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  • 85. At 10:58pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Mistakes happen everywhere and it is totally true that there were some unacceptable blunders done in CWG2010. The blunders didn't stop or cancel the games and cause major discomfort or hassle to all the atheletes or representatives from different countries.So it is time to move on.
    What really bothers the people is the nature of coverage of BBC and some other media organisations.Most(not all)of these blogs are created on the negative aspects of the event than celebrating the sport itself. This is really sad from BBC side which is a very reputable organisation in the world.

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  • 86. At 11:00pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    some facts about BBC

    Writing for the 2008 edition of the peer-reviewed Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Alasdair Pinkerton analyzes the coverage of India by the BBC since India's independence from British rule in 1947 until 2008. Pinkerton observes a tumultuous history involving allegations of anti-India bias in the BBC's reportage, particularly during the cold war, and concludes that the BBC's coverage of South Asian geopolitics and economics shows a pervasive and hostile anti-India bias due to the BBC's alleged imperialist and neo-colonialist stance

    Ref:Alasdair Pinkerton (October 2008), "A new kind of imperialism? The BBC, cold war broadcasting and the contested geopolitics of south asia", Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television 28 (4): 537–555, doi:10.1080/01439680802310324

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  • 87. At 11:16pm on 11 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Aru (#85) wrote:
    "Mistakes happen everywhere and it is totally true that there were some unacceptable blunders done in CWG2010. The blunders didn't stop or cancel the games and cause major discomfort or hassle to all the atheletes or representatives from different countries.So it is time to move on."

    When you have personally had conversations with athletes about their experience in the village then you have the right to comment on this. Until then, just stop spouting nonsense. You go on about how the BBC is misrepresenting India and it's people, but actually I think you are do a pretty good job of that yourself!

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  • 88. At 11:30pm on 11 Oct 2010, Shankara Subramaniam wrote:

    I am an indian and i agree with pradeep1234 & varun. please stop attempting to glorify india and also please stop pointing fingers at other countries. for sure kalmadi has blundered in a big way. there is no escape from that. wht right does any man on earth have to assign such lousy rooms to any human being - be it athletes or servant? its just not right to speak with such arrogance. its more graceful to accept the mistake. his talk is pure rubbish, if the games are a success it the people of India who did it and not kalmadi. actually i think he tried his best to mess it up.

    read this article: http://www.rediff.com/sports/2008/sep/05guest.htm
    published in 2008..two years before the games. as a matter of fact, one of the comments say with great confidence : "There is no doubt that it will be a spectacular disaster, unparalled in history."

    i dont see a single comment in the article supporting kalmadi..all of us indians are aware of the ineptness of this kind of administrational staff..i suggest energy better spent trying to weed out such dirt rather than throwing dirt at others in return.

    at others non indians here: dont measure all indians with the same yardstick as mr.kalmadi. thts as wrong as kalmadi's own deeds.

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  • 89. At 11:35pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sandalwood23 wrote:

    @ Olympics Fan, #87

    In the comments here, there are links to BBC stories about athletes speaking very highly of the Olympics Village. Note also that it has, for the first time, an extended training facility that the athletes have been raving about. An acquaintance of yours at the Village has other stories to tell. Look, you're an anonymous commenter here asking us to believe that you have some first hand reportage that negates the multiple BBC stories to the contrary. You'll excuse me if I don't weigh your stories the same as the media verified ones.

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  • 90. At 11:38pm on 11 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    The blunders didn't stop or cancel the games and cause major discomfort or hassle to all the atheletes or representatives from different countries.So it is time to move on

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    Yes it did cause hassle as the nations reps had to go and sort it out themselves, your an embarasment

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  • 91. At 11:46pm on 11 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Sandalwood23 (#89) - explain to me what reason I have to make this up? "an acquaintance", no if you read correctly MY BOYFRIEND and there are several other of my friends from university out there. And I'm not asking you to believe anything I'm providing readers of james' blog with further information of what else is out there and to stop people slagging off athletes saying that they are spoilt brats etc which has been in the press and other comments on news articles and blogs by people. I'm sure if one of your loved ones was out there and experiencing not very nice conditions and situations then you would want to defend them. And you say the multiple bbc stories.....well there are hundreds of UK athletes out there and only a handful of reports - not really a full picture is it.

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  • 92. At 11:54pm on 11 Oct 2010, Bigglesof266 wrote:

    There does seem a lot of ill feeling developing between our two great nations over this, seems totally unnecessary.

    1. Do I believe the BBC have an agenda to attack India and rubbish the games. No, however, bad news is always better than good and let's face it has been one pr disaster after another so there has been plenty of scope. You could also ask in what interest would the BBC attack the games when they devote so much time to it's programmer, and rightly so it being the 2nd biggest sporting event in the world.
    2. It is true that in the main the competitors have been very complimentary. Do I believe they have been told to keep quiet, no- you can't stop them tweeting the truth.
    3. Has there been sickness? Of course but why would you expect there not to be? Extreme heat and even the most subtle changes in diet can be a literal recipe for disaster, it doesn't mean something is dirty or infected. Is there any among us who have never suffered on a foreign holiday?
    4. Has there been a shortage of spectators - difficult to argue this, however, outside of the ipl and any India v pakhistan match when is there much interest? Cricket is the national sport , but how often is a test match sold out? Why therefore should anyone be surprised that no wants to watch many events, especially those with little Indian competitors.
    5. Kalmadi does not help. By all means defend the tremendous achievements but accept that not everyone or everything
    is perfect.
    6. Accepting that Kalmadi is not Giving the best image, I wonder if as much would have been achieved without his strong purposeful leadership?
    7. Instead of concentrating on entirely predictable upset tummies, why has the truly tragic story of the hard working men and women and their families who are now left to count the cost (literally) who died so that a tremendous sport festival been sidelined as a news item of worth ?
    8. Baked Beans, can you please say whether you are for or against the Delhi games taking place, or whether your problem is that you believe the British press have an agenda to attack India, or whether you believe that staging any games is immoral in today's economic climate.


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  • 93. At 11:57pm on 11 Oct 2010, Bigglesof266 wrote:

    Sorry, re read that a lot of poor grammar, no excuses, other than a long day.

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  • 94. At 11:57pm on 11 Oct 2010, Sandalwood23 wrote:

    Olympics Fan, its not for me to explain why you might make this up. I am not even suggesting that you're making things up, or not making things up. To me, you have yet to establish enough credibility for me to even consider your comments as reportage. They are just comments, unverified comments, sitting alongside links to the contrary.

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  • 95. At 11:58pm on 11 Oct 2010, Nipun Goel wrote:

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  • 96. At 11:59pm on 11 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    WHICH STORY PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE

    The pictures taken before the games village was allowed any athletes in or some short interviews with athletes expressing their current views about games village.

    Former England rugby player Lawrence Dallaglio:
    "I think the Games have been fantastic - I've been over here for a week and I didn't know what all the fuss is about, sport is taking centre stage."

    Similar to what Mark Lewis Francis said last week. It looks like the situation on the ground in Delhi might actually be better than what these blogging reports will have us believe.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9067272.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9053424.stm
    games/delhi_2010/9053424.stm

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  • 97. At 00:01am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #90

    Can you please explain what other nations rep sorted themselves out?

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  • 98. At 00:07am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #92. Bigglesof266 wrote:
    Well done mate your comment concludes this blog in a equivocal note. Probably there is no need of any further discussion now.

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  • 99. At 00:08am on 12 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Aru you know very well that other nations reps sorted out the accomodation which wasn't finished or finished to a livable standard, you are a racist pure and simple.

    Sandalwood23

    She said her boyfriend and other friends that's veriable enough, stop trying to discredit others for your pro Indian beliefs

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  • 100. At 00:12am on 12 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Lawrence Dallaglio: "I think the Games have been fantastic - I've been over here for a week and I didn't know what all the fuss is about, sport is taking centre stage."

    As I said earlier, LD isnt even staying in the village.

    Aru & Sandalwood23, so basically you're only willing to listen to one side of the story that's being printed in the press...yes that's a balanced view! At the end of the day I was trying to give information from someone that is inside the village but your too narrow minded to listen. I have no reason to lie, which by the way you ARE implying. I have nothing against India as a nation and i applaud the hundreds of people that spent time trying to get the facilities ready and who were probably paid next to nothing especially versus the massive packets that the likes of Kalmadi have had, but at the end of the day the organising committee should not be able to get away with the appalling way in which it has all occurred. Funny how athletes have decided to fly home early instead of attend the closing ceremony. You can have your blinkered view of this situation and I will have mine with information from people that have spent two weeks there. I wish that you were at all talented enough to be out there competing for your country and put you in their place and see how you would have felt.

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  • 101. At 00:14am on 12 Oct 2010, Nipun Goel wrote:

    @44 Pradeep: you have to stand up for yourself if you want to respect from others. However, this DOESN'T mean we shouldn't accept our mistakes and say sorry...we should say sorry but only where its needed and necessary!

    I am not fan of SK but unfortunately, here he is representing India as a country and by apologising means India is apologising for poor organisation of the event, despite of the proven fact that its been a very successful games so far and all visitors are very happy and enjoying. As I said in #47 few glitches are always there in organising such a huge event but not everyone get that sort of bad press at world level.

    All you we saw on TV is fallings tiles, dirty toilets etc before the start of the games but no one bothered to show the actual finished version of accomodation the athletes have got. I have seen in pictures its world class accomodation with all the facilities they can expect. A british player mentioned in a news article in the Times of India that 'they are enjoying happy and feeling more safe than back home'!

    We have spent nearly £5bn and there is so much positive around there but no one is bothered to show that. Little appreciation for positive things and highlighiting the good stuff could have helped us to get some return of our investment!

    I do accept its not the perfectly organised event but end of the day it wasnt bad at all and met all expectation of all participants but even then, instead of appreciating for positives, media is expecting sorry, which, i believe is unfair!!

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  • 102. At 00:16am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Hi Guys,
    What about the hockey match betweeen India and England.Lets talk about that and refresh our minds about pure sport.I forgot the names of the star players in India even watching India v Pak match.I think there are some good grinding players in England as i can see their form in the current games.

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  • 103. At 00:17am on 12 Oct 2010, Sandalwood23 wrote:

    Knowledge is good... As I have said, it may well be true, but the media reports strongly suggest that even if true, this is not the norm. I think that bears repeating, in this climate of India-bashing as shown by the non-existent pool hygiene problems, a media created story splattered across front pages.

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  • 104. At 00:20am on 12 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Aru

    Well they are world cup runners up if memory serves right. Last time these two played I think was in Olympic qualification when England were GB. England won, so with that and the recent WC I can't see much past an England win

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  • 105. At 00:29am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #104

    I can see England/GB doing well consistently in the past few years and they got good chances.With home crowd behind them Indian team could be more unpredictable as they ever are LOL.Not sure what time is the match tomorrow.

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  • 106. At 00:29am on 12 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    All you we saw on TV is fallings tiles, dirty toilets etc before the start of the games but no one bothered to show the actual finished version of accomodation the athletes have got
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    Pictures have been shown on the BBC coverage when Wales took Matt round the finished accomodation

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  • 107. At 00:30am on 12 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    non-existent pool hygiene problems,
    ____________

    Sure mate what do you think was floating in the pool then, dust? It looked like bird droppings.

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  • 108. At 00:31am on 12 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Sandalwood23 wrote:
    As I have said, it may well be true, but the media reports strongly suggest that even if true, this is not the norm.

    Again I repeat; there are hundreds of UK athletes out there and you have heard report from a handful. Not really a true representation is it? If you were doing a scientific study with proper number you would need a larger test group than that!

    Knowledge is good - thanks for your support previously. As for the hockey the last time they played was the WC in March. Eng finish runners up in the Champions Trophy (top 6 teams in the world) not WC.

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  • 109. At 00:35am on 12 Oct 2010, knowledge is good wrote:

    Aru

    Seems to be that way. India and Pakistan (who by the way are not happy after Sunday) are crumbling under past success. But as you say home crowd in a once a career chance then one would be very foolish to write India off here

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  • 110. At 00:38am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #109

    One part of hockey game I never could get my head around is they criteria for awarding penalty corners.Looks like they might be the key for both the teams

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  • 111. At 00:40am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    i watched the India Pak hockey game on the tele,WOW gr8 crowd and reminded me of some t20 match LOL....

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  • 112. At 00:44am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Want to watch Eng V India hockey match in a pub with a nice pint.Not sure if it will be shown in any of the pubs locally here,could ask them to tune it in(hope i am not going to be laughed at)

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  • 113. At 00:47am on 12 Oct 2010, Olympics Fan wrote:

    Aru - the atmosphere did look immense, it was always going to be for an Ind/Pak game. I should think it will be a great atmosphere tomorrow too although it was also a weekend so that might have made it better. In terms of penalty corners the main thing you will see them given for is for hitting a defenders foot in the D, which you will see attacking players deliberately try and hit the ball towards a defenders foot. but here are a few others:

    A penalty (short) corner is awarded for:
    An accidental offence by a defender within the circle they are defending, which does not prevent the probable scoring of a goal;
    A deliberate offence by a defender outside the circle they are defending but within the 23 metre area, against a player with possession of/opportunity to play the ball;
    A deliberate offense by a defender within the circle they are defending, against a player who does not have possession of/opportunity to play the ball.
    Deliberately playing the ball over the backline by a defender.

    Enjoy the game tomorrow and the rest of the Games. Despite the bad press and the comments here I do believe that the games/matches/race and sporting conduct has been good. Off to bed now!

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  • 114. At 01:08am on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Cool Olympics Fan for some knowledge about penalty corners.very much appreciated.Looking forward to enjoy the match tomorrow.

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  • 115. At 01:34am on 12 Oct 2010, JPdeLondon wrote:

    Can Suresh Kalmadi & co. account for every rupee spent on the games? Can he guarantee the lifespan of these shody buildings built in a hurry without proper concrete and plaster setting time?
    Indian taxpayers never get a fair deal for their hard earned tax money spent!

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  • 116. At 03:15am on 12 Oct 2010, harish1 wrote:

    Hi all
    1. Don't knock Mr Kalmadi. Between him and Mr Bhanot I have not had so much entertainment in years
    2. Stop cribbing. You article is fair, but what earthly purpose do you have in a) getting Kalmadi to say Sorry b) bringing up the bad things again
    3. Imagine the "last minutitis" and "dirty rooms" did'nt happen- would'nt you say the show since the opening ceremony has been quite acceptable? Then why the prevailing critical mindset?
    4. Either have empty stands, or noise. Take your pick
    5.The dirt will come out in the post games-mortem lets enjoy the games for the moment

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  • 117. At 03:51am on 12 Oct 2010, Varun wrote:

    Kalmadi sure needs to held accountable after the games and I'm sure let the next elections take place and he'll be sitting hidden in his cupboard!

    I hope India learns a big lesson from these games but at the same time India expects some empathy from the Western media. Can someone tell me why has BBC still posted 'In Pictures- Athletes village pictures' ????

    To all the Indian media, please get all your cameras and video equipment out and start a 'formal propaganda' covering the London Olympics 2012 from now itself and click the worst possible shots and throw them out in Indian news papers at least on the front pages. My appeal to all Indian athletes who go to London that they should not ignore even the minutest discomfort and be good humble guests like they have been always. I still remember when the Indian sports contingent in London last year was teated badly by the transport staff and the bus doors were closed as one of the guys came in late apparently.

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  • 118. At 04:12am on 12 Oct 2010, raghuram wrote:

    @Pradeep1234 wrote:

    Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and by the way I request you to mind your language. I have not made any personal attacks on anyone unlike you. I am pretty aware of what I have posted in the blogs. And please do not try to make this public forum into some kind of a personal spat. In fact being a true Indian I have been pretty tolerant to the some of stuffs that are being posted.

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  • 119. At 04:17am on 12 Oct 2010, Vivek Padmanabhan wrote:

    Though they apply to completely different situations, there is remarkable similarity between the comments of Kalmadi and those of Ijaz Butt a month or so ago when the spot-fixing controversy came to the fore. These are the reactions of a man who is completely detached from reality and it is the lack of accountability that he has grown accustomed to that allows him the luxury of continued detachment from, or more precisely perversion of, the facts. This says as much about him as it does about the office that he reports into

    As India matures, and people get more exposure to a younger, more pro-active (predominantly private sector) type of leadership, people will start demanding the same of its bureaucrats. That will send the Kalmadis of the country into relative obscurityn. Or so the hope goes...

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  • 120. At 04:29am on 12 Oct 2010, RazzberryBeret wrote:

    Why defend the man when we Indians have been so critical of him ourselves? It's that age-old syndrome where people feel they can criticise their own kind but rise up swiftly in defence of the same crimes if foreigners point a finger.
    The fact remains that the Organising Committee's performance has been abysmal. Sorry, but most of the issues being brought up by the international media & athletes are not small. Our own Indian athletes professed horror and lodged complaints as well. Our media has been scathing in it's coverage of this event. Remember Times of India's front page with screaming headlines, "Nation's Shame"?
    And the ticketing and merchandising fiasco has been nothing short of criminal. It could have given us, the Indian people a chance to recoup some of the cost, given how incredibly overblown the budget for this event has turned out to be. The ridiculouly inept National TV channels shuffle along in their usual ham-handed way unable to attract any decent sponsors, while so many Indian satellite channels run slickly, chockfull of revenue from hundreds of sponsors, and prime ones too. What a waste of of so many oppurtunities.
    We seem to be taking the man's cue and living in denial if we think a good opening ceremony, some well run events and good crowds in the last 5 days of the Games will wipe out everything else that went wrong.

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  • 121. At 04:49am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

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  • 122. At 04:57am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

    to bbc editors negative stories and spin sell well more than the +ve one.
    the fact is ur follow up stories about changes in village or rumours proved wrong about swimming pool is too late and burried like a warning message on a cigar pack( it is intentional). in the end u r cheating urself with negative spin on every event linked to the games and it will do only damage to ur organisations credibility and nothing more.

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  • 123. At 05:07am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

    anybody with commonsense will not support kalmadi and it is true for indians too. once the games are over our media will not let him to get away and if corruption charges are proved he will be taken to sword.

    one thing kalmadi done right is not to be diplomatic to glasgow. glasgow will reap what they sow. they werent dilpomatic either . we will never know what was the true state of the village before the clean up began but we all know no single athlete would not have been allowed to stay in poor conditions as shown by some pics by indians themselves and the fact is it was cleaned and the athletes were provided best living quartes before the games began.

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  • 124. At 05:18am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

    the fact is an athlete died in vancouver games because officials turned deaf ears to the safety of the track. if media had followed up that story a life would have been saved and the only thing few western media did was to put a positive spin about its success.

    there were few things that went wrong in build up of the games but they were set right in blistering space . for eg army constructed a temp footbridge in 4 days and a deep clean up happened and athletes are happy about food , training facilities and living quarters. proof is directly from various interviews of athletes and not an unnamed scottish official.

    fact is athletes have more space in living room and more toilets per flat than any other cw games. fact is melbourne had only one toilet to be shared by many athletes in a flat.

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  • 125. At 05:24am on 12 Oct 2010, shashi wrote:

    The Friendly Games have been very successful: Two-thousand condoms used by the Games Village guests on the first day? I'm surprised it was only two beds that collapsed!

    But seriously, surely the most important thing is being overlooked here: none of you guys have commented on how beautiful and elegant the ladies who carry the medals at the presentation are! If there is anyone reading this that lives in Delhi, if you could fix me up for BBC News' websites first arranged marriage I would be eternally grateful. I think I've fallen in love with at least three of them (ahem). Moving quickley on..

    I've noticed on some of the chatrooms (not BBC ones) when discussing the CWG a real nastiness to some of comments is apparent; very unpleasant an uncalled for, to put it mildly. The haters obviously must have their say.

    The Indian media were the first to expose the failings, and full credit to them for that. However this endless feedback loop of the initial failings and valid concerns should not obscure the success of the athletes, and the postive outcome for the games themselves, which, once up-and-running seem to have fairly run well, all things considered. It seems some people from all sides have their own agendas and want to use the CWG to express their own prejudices or hang-ups. That's a shame. Lessons should be learned, mistakes should be acknowledged, but most of all, the athletes and people who put it all together at the midnight hour should be congratulated, whatever we think of the validity or otherwise of the commonwealth or the CWG.

    Oh, and by the way, you're all invited to my wedding!

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  • 126. At 05:33am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

    @razzberry beret the only thing i want to comment is about times of india and timesnow is they are a joke of the media . they follow paradigm of fox news with negative spin and sensationalism for trp. any indian should take their stories with a pinch of salt and sense of humour because most of the times it has less fact and more sensational spin and nothing more( it is the new paradigm of the beast to attract eyeballs)

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  • 127. At 05:38am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

    at the end most of the sport OC in india is run by corrupt and inefficient and zombies who do no real work and corrupt politicians or who act as a proxy for corrupt politicians and kalmadi falls into one of those labels. it is upto the former athletes in india to show some courage and begin the cleanup and it is not the sole responsibility of athletes alone.

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  • 128. At 05:57am on 12 Oct 2010, topdawg wrote:

    Compared to most articles written about the games, this one actually has some positive things to say.

    Sadly, inevitably, the local bandwagon has ignored anything positive form the article and jumped on any negative comments.

    This isn't just something you see in the CWG blogs, it is everywhere you try to have a reasoned discussion with Indians. Look at the cricket 606 site on the BBC and you will see people just making up 'the truth', backing their favourites regardless of the majority opinion.

    What our local friends are trying to tell us is that the negative comments are just a western conspiracy against India, the largest democracy in the world, and that everything is great over there. Everyone lives in a palace, eating ambrosia and drinking nectar.

    We should be jealous that we are unable to live there too.

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  • 129. At 06:06am on 12 Oct 2010, topdawg wrote:

    some requested a source for the photos..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9079157.stm

    everyone with a negative comment on india has an agenda and is a liar. just remember that!

    i wonder what achievements the developed world has lied about in the past?

    first car invented - indian
    who built the pyramids - indians
    leaning tower of pisa - indians
    great wall of china - indians
    first monkey into space - india

    it sounds like a sketch from goodness gracious me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWd9a8Ck8U

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  • 130. At 06:11am on 12 Oct 2010, free_verse wrote:

    Dear BBC, English friends and the like:

    I just wish to raise the following points as regards the the Games and everything related to it:

    1) Why has the international media not made a DISTINCTION between the preiod of last week of September (pre-Games) and the period after the opening Ceremony. This is a fair distinction that should have been drawn if the Games reporting is to be perceived as fair and balanced. The Indian media, along with the international media, made a virulent attack against the organising committee immediately prior to the Games. However, Indian media toned down it's negative reporting considerably given that (i) the Opening Ceremony was fabulous and served as a salvaging factor for the OC (ii) the pictures of the Games Village revealed that it was in fact a beautiful venue, with great facilities for recreation, training, entertainment, dining and interaction. A salon, disc, amphitheatre, shops, gym were some of the features of the Village (iii) lest pictures proved to be misleading, there were statements by athletes and the officials accompanying them, confirming the above and reiterating that their stay was comfortable and 'everything was fantastic' (to quote an English official) (iv) there were unforseeable problems like condoms clogging drains, players getting a bad stomach due to spicey food (and not the swimming pool, as reports have unequivocally confirmed) and these were duly reported but never blown out of proportion so as to dampen everybody's spirits.

    Why has the media here not bothered to interview their athletes more often to get their actual feedback on the village and the facilities and report the ground realities. If there were pictures of the Village BEFORE the commencement of the event, shouldn't there be a segment shocasing the pictures of the Village (and yes, the rooms and toilets) AFTER the athletes moved in. When you don't do that, don't you risk MISLEADING your readers and leaving a false impression in their minds? Especially so, when the former pictures were made headlines, catching attention of one and all.

    2) Why does every analysis of the Games, including this interview, highlight certain mishaps in the run up to the Games, WITHOUT making as much as a reference to the PRESENT conditions (which by far, are more relevant to report), mentioning how the shortcomings have been remedied within time. Eg: reports continue mention that the athletics track was damamged despite precautions taken, but fail to point out that NOBODY faced any problems because of that because it was repaired overnight.

    3) Why doesn't it dawn on people that perhaps the manner of EXECUTION of projects may differ from country to country. The run up to public projects in India, especially by the GOVERNMENT, are marked by chaos and mayhem. Whether this is good or bad should not matter to the Games discussion. It is how Indians (in the government) work and it's their problem. As long as the work is done in time, why should it matter whether it was done over many months, or few months PROVIDED the safety standards are met (which were, in the present case). The Chinese took one year to prepare for their opening ceremony, and it took less than one-tenth of the time here. So when the officials from other countries arrived in September, they had a reason to worry, but the Indians pulled up their sockes and got everything ready in time.

    4) There is no way corruption in the Games is going to be condoned, despite the Games being a succeess. Nothing portrays the disgust at the corruption scene better than the crowds jeering at Kalmadi at the Opening ceremony. So, it is not right to say (as many comments have said here) that Indians do not take criticism well and live in denial. If BBC reports on the menace of corruption in public life in India with reference to the Games, no Indian will contest that. Nobody hates our politicians the way we do. But there is no question of receiving undue criticism where it is not due.

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  • 131. At 06:26am on 12 Oct 2010, Roger wrote:

    If Kalmandi were the chairman of Glasgow 2014, he would pull it off without problems.

    India is a very difficult challenge. If people have been there, they would understand. The workers there are from villages with a different hygiene standards than middle-class people.

    To be able to pull of these games without further hiccups would be a success, IMO.

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  • 132. At 06:29am on 12 Oct 2010, pgrain wrote:

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  • 133. At 07:22am on 12 Oct 2010, bangalorebob wrote:

    The blame for this farce lays squarely on the shoulders of the Commonwealth Games Federation and Mike Fennell. They were aware that there where massive problems back in 2009 when Australia offered to host the 2010 games. I suspect that rather than embarrassing India and take the games away from them, they felt it better to put the health and safety of the athletes at risk and keep them in India. I expect some resignations when these games are finished.

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  • 134. At 07:25am on 12 Oct 2010, a1276 wrote:

    #84 - knowledge is good wrote:

    You are screaming about tracks being laid one day before. Question is was it done on time. YES, it was. So please stop crying like a baby.

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  • 135. At 07:37am on 12 Oct 2010, topdawg wrote:

    once again, the truth hurts some indians so much that they resort to being abusive.

    That is such a shame.

    Indians have made racism a dirty word

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  • 136. At 07:42am on 12 Oct 2010, DrownedWorld wrote:

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  • 137. At 08:00am on 12 Oct 2010, billion_plus wrote:

    Not really. Going by the Wembley fiasco and the lack of facilities at the Manchester games, wouldn't be really surprised if Glasgow CWG are another shambles.

    Would love to see how the BBC reacts then.

    But before that there is the 2012 Olympics :-)

    So.. er.. how much are we over-budget already for it?

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  • 138. At 08:13am on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    118. At 04:12am on 12 Oct 2010, raghuram wrote:
    @Pradeep1234 wrote:

    Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and by the way I request you to mind your language. I have not made any personal attacks on anyone unlike you. I am pretty aware of what I have posted in the blogs. And please do not try to make this public forum into some kind of a personal spat. In fact being a true Indian I have been pretty tolerant to the some of stuffs that are being posted.

    raghuram wrote:

    7:39pm on 11 Oct 2010

    Who has forced your boyfriend to stay in the games village in the first place???? He could have well shifted to a five star hotel. I really hope the athletes whose events have gotten over have left to their respective homes if they find the place as deplorable as your are trying to project.

    Been reading through more comments and come across this "jewel" of hypocrisy. So you don't think this was a personal attack against the girl who's boyfriend is out there competing? I "love" (in the ironic sense) who "pgrain" has another go at her for being a "troll", and then proceeds to spam with comment after comment. She doesn't appear to have been distorting anything - all she has done is put forward the experience of her boyfriend, who is staying in the village. On the ground experience is important to hear about so that you don't simply get the media view or the view of an official.

    Its all very well to talk about the things that are good in India at the Games, of which I'm sure there are many - but the pure rank hatred that seems to come out when anyone also mentions the things that haven't gone well is out of order. England has to take plenty of criticism, but some people on here seem unable to take any criticism whatsoever.

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  • 139. At 08:15am on 12 Oct 2010, topdawg wrote:

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  • 140. At 08:17am on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #137
    The Manchester Games are generally acknowledged to have been a great success despite what you say, so its unnecessarily petty to say that Glasgow will probably be a shambles. If that did happen to be the case, you must be extremely naive to think that the BBC won't make full and frank comments about it. This is where the people who believe everybody else has an anti-Indian agenda trip up because it would appear they don't read any of the press which investigates and then reports and criticises things which go wrong in the UK. They don't paint a continually rosy picture about how things are in the British Isles, so why should they do the same about any other country - it would be censored reporting, and that is absolutely something we don't want under those circumstances.

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  • 141. At 08:24am on 12 Oct 2010, DrownedWorld wrote:

    Dear Moderators,
    You find find topdawg's blatant abuse of India and Indians acceptable, but find my challenge to explain himself/herself unacceptable. This is rather strange!

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  • 142. At 08:26am on 12 Oct 2010, Red_Indian wrote:

    Going by BBC's coverage of the CWG, it should be replaced by a 'Home Nations' Games'.

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  • 143. At 08:36am on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #141

    Topdawg's last comment has been removed actually... If you've had something removed it must be because the content wasn't acceptable?

    #142

    Are you saying the BBC shouldn't be covering the Home Nations? I've seen criticism from one or two about how they believe some of the coverage at times hasn't centred enough on the Brit's. All it proves is they have an impossible job because there is always going to be someone who claims to be unhappy about something.

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  • 144. At 08:47am on 12 Oct 2010, DrownedWorld wrote:

    #143,
    Topdawg have been posting links (with no comment added, just links) to articles about poverty, illiteracy and generally how life sucks in India. I am asking him/her to explain the point he is trying to make.

    When the blogs are about CWG, and discussions are also about CWG, why would anyone post random articles out of context? I would like to know his/her intentions before commenting.

    This challenge to explain himself/herself was found to be unacceptable to BBC.

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  • 145. At 09:23am on 12 Oct 2010, Deep-heat wrote:

    #36, Aru.

    A few comments on your ridiculous post:

    1 - The Independent article you have linked to was written in March and the Manchester CGs started in July. I lived directly opposite the athlete's village (in Furness Road) and assisted in ensuring that the facilities were ready and of a good standard. Whilst there were concerns in March, everything was managed quite smoothly. Completely irrelevant link.

    2 - These pictures have not only been used by the BBC, they have been used by mahy different media outlets.

    Ultimately, Kalmadi's stance on his Games is simply absurd. It undermines the positive aspects of the Games (which the journalist reasonably highlights) and essentially makes everything that comes out of his mouth just a bit of guff. His interview with Pinsent was arguably one of the most depressing of the whole saga.

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  • 146. At 09:40am on 12 Oct 2010, samind wrote:

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  • 147. At 09:50am on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #146 you obviously like defaming people - its the sort of thing you might get away with writing anonymously on a blog (although not necessarily), but if you wrote these in a newspaper or said them in public, I suspect you might find yourself in a spot of bother. How would you feel if someone might lots of unsubstantiated claims about you?

    Why do you think your boxer was "cheated"? The opponent clearly had more than one punch which wasn't scored by the judges, and you might be interested to know that continuously holding onto your opponent in boxing is not allowed. How about the culpability of your boxer for pushing his luck once too often and not trying to box properly?

    Only "dimwits" will believe that the coverage has been biased in the extreme. You are only interested in making a political point - the actual facts are a mere inconvenience for you when it comes to saying what you are.

    To say that the Welsh (or anybody else) manufactured the photo's just shows your ignorance unfortunately.

    If you had to front up with evidence to back up your claims, I suspect you would find yourself having to make a rapid apology.

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  • 148. At 09:56am on 12 Oct 2010, samind wrote:

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  • 149. At 10:09am on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    #148
    You might want to be careful when you talk about the "truth". Unemployment is actually heading downwards, based on the most recent figures. Whilst the overall figures are obviously not great, they are certainly not at the heights that they were back in the 1980's. Plenty of people do have misgivings about the Olympics in England, but plenty more are excited about it.

    What proof do you have that attempts are being made to stop Indian's progressing in the Games? I assume you're aware that India are second in the medals table? I could be wrong, but that must mean they're actually doing pretty well? You can't even make any positive comments about your own country because all you seem to want to push is an anti-English theme in your comments.

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  • 150. At 11:59am on 12 Oct 2010, Jack123 wrote:

    When you see an athletes' village canteen for the first time and it's the size of three football pitches, it can be a bit daunting

    Dame Kelly Holmes

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  • 151. At 1:23pm on 12 Oct 2010, mekkadan wrote:

    Into the last few days of 2010 CWG Delhi. C'mon guys, lets concentrate on the sporting events and put up another smashing show during the closing ceremony, one that the commonwealth countries will remember for a long time!!

    Nevertheless, i hope the Indian govt will do everything it can : learn from the mistakes, investigate the accusations of corruption and bring to book each and every scoundrel who's put this nation to shame just before the games began.
    As the most visible face of the OC, Mr. kalmadi is facing all the flak. But we must ensure no wrongdoer goes unpunished.

    As for the fact that the games have gone well so far : its a testament to India's enterprising spirit : inspite of all odds we never give up. Inspite of corrupt politicians we never lose focus to grow and succeed.
    And inspite of Kalmadi and Co, our school children and folk artists still put up a show that'll dazzle the world.

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  • 152. At 1:37pm on 12 Oct 2010, Eagle wrote:

    Wetern media dont want to see shining India. They want to see India suffering, U all got to agree that Western media has been over critical of things in India.. All along u people are trying to do is nitpicking... I have read 100`s western media articles abnd not one even one could come up with even a iota of positive????????????????

    Whatever u may write about CWG as Lord Coe said its the opinion of atheletes which matters most.. For all read this - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/oct/12/commonwealth-games-lord-coe.

    And atheletes have been more than satisfied with games village and facilities, offered by delhi.. And that is what matters most... I am glad there are some sinsible head out there to do a reality check and not go entirely by media....

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  • 153. At 2:00pm on 12 Oct 2010, Eagle wrote:

    Here is the link I was talking about,
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/oct/12/commonwealth-games-lord-coe

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  • 154. At 2:35pm on 12 Oct 2010, Surreybloke wrote:

    Eagle... you're just wrong. You refuse to acknowledge the positive articles about the Games. You make wide-ranging statements about what you believe people think without having any evidence. Instead of putting forward your own narrow-minded focus, why don't you look at the whole picture of the coverage? The article you have posted the link for is basically very positive, and yet you are saying you haven't read anything with one iota of positivity? Which is it? Either there is none, or some?

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  • 155. At 3:07pm on 12 Oct 2010, Raj Lingam wrote:

    “It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.”
    Truthfully, Mr. Kalmandi should accept shortcomings and emphasize on lessons learned. However, I feel that the media coverage is bit aggressive. The fact is that most of the issues have been fixed and the media should now focus on the good that is coming out of the games. Be kind to Delhi since they have spent billions on these games.
    I was in Glasgow for a conference in 2006. Glasgow is great however; I have noticed quite a few economically depressed areas when I took a train from Glasgow to Port of Glasgow. There was urine all over the subway train platforms. Also, one night when I was returning from the conference dinner from University of Glasgow (looks very impressive) I was followed by an individual who made racial slurs calling me and my colleagues “PAKI”, etc. and threatening to beat us. Luckily we reached out hotel before he could do any harm. I was taken aback for the first time in my life since I travelled quite a bit and never ran into such situation.
    There is good and bad everywhere and focusing on good lifts human spirit. I hope Glasgow games go well and hopefully benefit from mistakes made in Delhi. Confidence is good but arrogance is not.

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  • 156. At 3:51pm on 12 Oct 2010, mayn wrote:

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  • 157. At 3:55pm on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    Let's celebrate the hockey victory.well done India to comeback from 3-1 behind.England very good team and very spirited but bad luck.

    Of all the controversies isn't it gr8 that we still love sport every moment and want to watch the teams giving their best.looks like the cwg2010 are going to end on a good note(hopefully)

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  • 158. At 4:00pm on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

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  • 159. At 6:58pm on 12 Oct 2010, stiffyupperlipping wrote:

    I am ashamed that the BBC uses my license fee money to propogate the same myth and total racist attitude. Lets face it- they already had made there mind up that the games were going to fail.Now they keep on desperately showing the 'dog' in stadium, myth that the pool was a cesspool, pictures of accomodation that was not going to be handed as yet.Anything the slightest negative just like the daily teleraph and daily mail..they blow it out of all proportions. The games have been great. Indians spent £6Billion on them and all you can do is sit in your ivory towers and complain.I really feel like asking for my licence fees.I will tell you this - since the Indians are coming up in the world slowly but surely, time will come when they simply will not take this crap from the BBC. It is a free press in India as well, dare you criticise anything in China.Even the fireworks were simulated !! Give the indians a fair deal, they deserve it. Stop this rotten child throwing toys out of the pram thing. Grow up BBC.

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  • 160. At 7:52pm on 12 Oct 2010, Petrichor wrote:

    Kalmadi possesses in ample measure that quality typical of politicians: a thick skin. His approach is simple: if an accusation is made, simply deny it.

    It's wonderful that things are going relatively smoothly at the Games and attendance is picking up, but it seems to be having an unfortunate consequence: people seem to be forgetting about or underplaying the massive corruption in contracts that was uncovered by the Indian media. I hope that after the Games all such accusations are looked into and the guilty punished. A 'successful' Games cannot absolve the Organising Committee of all the wrongdoing that they have allegedly committed.

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  • 161. At 7:52pm on 12 Oct 2010, Dinesh Patel wrote:

    159. At 6:58pm on 12 Oct 2010, stiffyupperlipping

    Well said! There are lots of faults, but to attack a nation about it like the BBC has done is unforgiveable. India is a country not there but trying its best to get there. There are many countries who are anti-west and have no interest in freedom and western interests.

    Give us some respect. If we were a Muslim country, the BBC would be showering us with flowers. What did people expect from India, we have people starving on streets. I'm sorry the toilets were not modern enough.

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  • 162. At 8:23pm on 12 Oct 2010, grogroovy wrote:

    The irony about the British is that they think the whole world hates them.. any questions why?

    A colleague of mine, who is British, said "yeah, today the whole world hates us".

    I told him "Not us, India is too caught up in becoming a better nation".

    BBC, do come back the next time when we host another set of games again. We shall dare you to kick up some dirt because Im quite sure, by then, you will find it very very hard to find any fault with us.

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  • 163. At 8:49pm on 12 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    #159

    You are absolutely correct and I totally agree with you.lets celebrate the sport not the mediocrity, pessimism or negativism as BBC is doing.

    Having said that I can see there is slight change the tone and way the presenters are talking in the past 2 days.probably they are tired hunting for a negative story or saw this blog and realised how wrong they were.

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  • 164. At 8:58pm on 12 Oct 2010, DrownedWorld wrote:

    grogroovy,
    Thanks for the link to the article by Mick Hume. The undertone at BBC is definitely trying to tell us 'natives' to know our place. The glee with which they 'proactively' dig up negative news is nothing short of disgusting.

    Any journalist worth his name knows that Kalmadi will be asked to fall on his sword once the games are over. Yet, our dear friend here feels compelled to do a lame interview anyway.

    I think it is time to simply ignore media outfits like BBC and their blinkered view of the world. Their role is becoming increasing marginal and largely irrelevant for us anyway.

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  • 165. At 9:07pm on 12 Oct 2010, Anton wrote:

    Initially I was against Kalmadi but now I feel he deserves to defend himself against the onslaught, especially from Britain. BBC seems to be contradicting the athletes, many of whom seem to have had no problems with accommodation and facilities.

    But no doubt Kalamadi and other organisers should be scrutinised though - in the interests of the Indian public.

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  • 166. At 9:23pm on 12 Oct 2010, the-tiger wrote:

    Is BBC going to go after Lord Coe, Ms Jowell, Mr Blair, etc who duped us Brits into believing that 2012 will cost around 2/3 Bilion....they will now cost upwards of 9B. Isn't that arrogance and treating the public like muppets.

    And what about the arrogance of Gordon who has failed to admit his role in the financial crisis. And what about the arrogant claim of Blair about the WMD's in Iraq.

    Most humans who get power get corrupted...some less some more. AND they all treat the joe public like dirt. Its nothing to do with first or third world. Mr Kalmadi is from the same breed...

    But the Indian public and the Indian workers have done well...and the Indian atheletes as well.

    Shame on the atheletes who did not attend...they have been wrongly advised...

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  • 167. At 9:53pm on 12 Oct 2010, umang25 wrote:

    All I heard before the games started was how bad the CWG Village is (unhygienic, not up to the standards, snakes, dogs etc.), 80% chances of terrorist attack, Dengue etc., but on one bothered to show the photos of world class stadium, weight-lifting arena, wrestling arena, boxing ring, tennis court, table tennis room, swimming pool that were built... And I would like to point out that the said photos of the village was taken before athletes arrived. There might have been delays in getting the village ready but it was ready when athletes arrived. And in organizing any big events such as this some glitches are bound to be there, but I think media just wanted to focus on the bad-side of the CWG2010 preparation. John MacKinnon, a sports columnist from Canada who has been in Delhi for over two weeks, said: "I think the negative press the event organisers and India has been receiving are exaggerated. If you ask me, then I think the athletes are on the whole quite happy with the arrangements. I have been interacting with the Canadian athletes and they are very happy with the facilities in the Games Village, the food, everything. They are abiding by protocol and see no reason to complain. There was a lot of negative reporting about the Games before the actual event, so maybe people have come here with a pre-set negative mindset. And you have to keep in mind that this is the first time India is organising such a big event, unlike China, where, before the Olympics, other events were held and they could learn from the mistakes." Mereseini Marau of the Pacific Islands News Association said: "I have been interacting with a lot of athletes from Papua New Guinea, Tonga and others and they are satisfied with the arrangements. Every big sporting event has its share of glitches and so does India. I think the opening ceremony put an end to a lot of negative reporting that India was getting." Moazzam Hossain Choudhury of the Bangladesh Sangbad Sanstha said: "If I look at the arrangements from the point of view of a country in this part of the subcontinent, it's brilliant. In fact we are very proud of it." The Telegraph has been running a series, "What's going wrong in Delhi today" and Australian newspapers (The Age and The Australian) trying to find glitches in games or blame officials for Sally Pearson's false start and Nigerian athletes testing positive for banned substance.

    I have been watching CWG over TV and in my opinion the games are going great, athletes have been enjoying the games. Here are few comments from athletes: Hockeyroos (Australian hockey team) Kate Hollywood tweeted "Awesome live band and atmosphere in the Village", The day after Australian Rugby 7s team arrived they started a game of cricket with volunteers outside Australian HQ. Slowly the crowd of volunteers got bigger as they came and watched. This shows how much cricket brings two nations together. Australian Diver Matthew Mitcham described his room as spacious. Australian Netballer Susan Pratley said: "The dining hall is this massive marquee, and when I say massive, I mean massive. It's set up very much like a food court, you can take as much as you want and keep coming back until you literally roll out of the dining hall. It takes lot of willpower to limit yourself to an average portion - not helped that it's open 24/7. Everyone is so friendly and we all chat while we wait in line for our food." Lynsey Armitage said: "It's once in a lifetime experience in India. There has been a lot of talk about this sort of stuff (security and health risks) but you do have to get here and make up your own mind. I'd have been devastated if I had pulled out and then realised how good it was."
    I am living in "first world country" and here local trains run 15mins late almost everyday, some suburbs . My point here is if you want to looking for negative points go to the best city in the world and you will find them. Why can't we forget the past and live in present. As such India and all other British colonies should have destroyed Great Britain for ruling, stealing and slaving them. Lets say the photos were genuine, but everything was ready before the event started and is going quite smoothly. Why can't we just enjoy the sport and cheer for our athletes who have trained really hard for the CWG2010 and are competing to bring medals and glory for their nation.

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  • 168. At 11:54pm on 12 Oct 2010, umang25 wrote:

    @pradeep1234:
    I have read your comments and it seems that only thing that pleases you is India's criticism. I'm aware of problems in India and with Government bodies but I'm proud of my country. You made a point that we criticize our people, but when same person is criticized by foreigners we stand up and defend them. Let me ask you a question, If tomorrow you disagree with your family in some matter and some one from outside comes and criticizes your family member and tries to tarnish your family name what would you do? stand their and watch quietly or join that person in criticizing them or stand up for your family member and support them?
    Whatever problem is there in our country we will tackle it as a family and don't need outsider's for that.

    I'm proud of my country in-spite of all the problems. What we have achieved post independence is amazing. It is easy to sit outside and blame others but let me tell you its not easy to organize this big events. India has become 3rd powerful nation after US and China; and 4th powerful bloc after US, EU and China. http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/India-From-Third-World-country-to-third-most-powerful-nation/articleshow/6604096.cms

    @topdawg
    That was a comedy show and I have to admit a very funny one, but talking about facts India and China were richest countries before British Colonized India and took control of the country. http://www.theworldeconomy.org/MaddisonTables/MaddisontableB-18.pdf
    and you should also check this out it might interest you its all facts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhPXCNhX7M

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  • 169. At 11:35am on 13 Oct 2010, Radioactive starfish wrote:

    I stumbled across this blog ! don't normally read these things or comment.In this instance I could not read any more opinions from people who have no idea of what is going on in that village for more athletes than you all know about because of restrictions on what the athletes are allowed to say due to 'political reasons'.Olmpics Fan my very poorly daughter has just returned home 6 kilo's lighter in weight, trying to be mentally strong,still going to the loo for England ( lots of people still in the frame for this medal I think !)What she told me yesterday mirrors what you have said and more besides the problems for herhave notjust been down to health issues there is so much more.So as my daughter is not in the habit of lying,over reacting or making excuses and is certainly not racist in any way I totally believe what you are saying . We as a family are not looking to place blame on anyone for what she and many others have had to endure just a little understanding ,at the end of the day all these athletes want to do is be at the top of their game to give their best performance for their countries ,no matter how tough the athlete is or isnt the circumstances in Dehli have had a sad reflection on the results and it is a shame the athletes are not allowed to explain due to the fact they are told what they can and can't say and will be called whingers or racist if they dare to make any negative remark.
    Many of you may think what a ranting protective mother but I wouldnt wish on anyone what we have had to watch over the last week watching our daughter TRY to compete for her country of which she is proud in a sport she loves under the circumstances given.We hope she has learnt what she can from this and comes back stronger when she is well again !
    Olympics Fan not much longr now and he will be home !

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  • 170. At 11:40am on 13 Oct 2010, Anton wrote:

    Despite the success of Indian athletes in the games, I am afraid to say my abiding memory of these games will be how England, Australia, Scotland, New Zealand tried to scupper the success of these games (and even stop the games altogether) in order to damage India's reputation. Guess what? The commonwealth countries are no longer even that important to India as far as global trade is concerned. Countries like China, Japan, the US are the key markets.

    So, if you tried to impede India's growth, I'm afraid to say this will have little bearing and won't have any negative impact on its progress.

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  • 171. At 1:09pm on 13 Oct 2010, free_verse wrote:

    @radioactivestarfish

    I read your post and if things REALLY are the way you make them out to be, then as a nation, we Indians have a lot to be sorry for. If your daughter has really been through a rought time, like you say, I hope that she (and others, if any) come out in the open with the 'truth'

    What I don't undestand is what possible 'political compulsions' can there be which will force 7000 athletes and countless officils from 71 countries to keep absolutely mum about the horrors they are supposedly facing. I can understand that if they decide to not make a big deal out of minor inconveniences, but your post makes it sound like your daughter has practlically survived a Nazi camp. What is STOPPING the team officials, the same people who were on a ruthless campaign against the Delhi government and Games organisers for certain shortcomings that they saw in the preparations merely a week prior to the Games, to the extent that there was talk of the Games being on the verge of being called off. If things are REALLY as bad as you make them out to be, I can't imagine any political or other considerations which will stop them from raising their voices.

    Also, ASSUMING that for some inexplicable reason, EVERYBODY has decided to not protest, what may I know is compelling them to act POSITIVELY by going ahead and making statements that do not at all reflect what you are claiming. I can understand that they might want to keep mum, by why are they (apparently) lying their to newspapers, tv channels from all across the countries by praising the facilities? I request you to go through the following:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/01/3027685.htm

    http://headlinesindia.mapsofindia.com/sports-news/commonwealth-games/players-praise-health-facilities-at-games-village-64981.html

    http://alpha.newsx.com/story/australia-happy-games-village?quicktabs_5=0

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/commonwealth-games-2010/news/Games-Village-is-best-ever-in-history-of-CWG-Fennel/cwgarticleshow/6698492.cms

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/Filthy-Many-athletes-happy-with-CWG-village-facilities-and-food/articleshow/6643559.cms

    http://sports.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/oct/01/slide-show-1-cwg-2010-delhi-commonwealth-games-village-from-filthy-to-swanky.htm

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/101586/as-charles-comes-calling-players.html

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20101001/sports/sports5.html

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Games-Village-fantastic-Players-to-Prince-Charles/articleshow/6677536.cms

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/commonwealth-games-2010/news/Athletes-bid-adieu-to-Games-Village/articleshow/6741682.cms

    Each of these reports has athletes, officials (even Fennel) showing their satisfaction at the Village facilities and the treatment given to them. Where there have been glitches, nobody has been shy to make them fully public.

    What you are suggesting is a grand conspiracy by everyone to delude the whole (commonwealth) world into thinking the athletes are more than happy and comfortable when they are actually suffering hell, according to you. If that is the case, and it is highly unlikely, and your daughter has faced difficulties of the kind you mention, I apologise to you on behalf of everybody in my country.

    If not, I suggest you consider the fact that your daughter is probably faint hearted, of weak constitution or just ate some spicey food giving her an upset stomach.












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  • 172. At 2:01pm on 13 Oct 2010, Radioactive starfish wrote:

    Free Verse I have not posted a comment to get involved with a discussion where I am likely to be totally out of my depth, I wanted to inform people who are not their what the situation inside the village was like from my daughters point of view as it has not been rosey for many of the athletes and team staff.For what ever the reason may be some atheletes and team staff have been told not to say anything negative about illness and the state of the village.There must be a lot of athletes and team staff who are faint hearted and of weak constitution as they where told not to eat the spices due to fear of getting ill.I can only speak for my daughter who is ranked top of the world in her particular sport I doubt she would have been able to attain ths level if she had the problems with a weak constitution like you suggest.Any way I know the truth, I know who of my daughters team mates and also how many of her boyfriends team mates have struggled with illness , accomodation issues etc (boyfriend is also there)so it is of no importance to me what you believe to be the truth just like my post was of no importance to you ,like many other families involved we just want to put this behind us and move on so I will not be posting any further truths I just hope someday they will come out for the sake of the athletes that this has affected.......doubt it ever will though.

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  • 173. At 3:11pm on 13 Oct 2010, free_verse wrote:

    If your daughter has sufferred on any account and has had to remain hush about it for reasons of protocol or whatever, I feel truly sorry, for her and you family.

    At the same time, I can't see these problems were that plagued her, including health problems, that could not be addressed. Things are not always the way one prefers but at an international event, but one's requirements can always be met. Anyway, I don't know what the issues were so I cannot comment.

    It's a pity that the whole experience has left with bitter a taste in your mouth. I hope (and have an inkling) that your daughter's case was the exception and not the NORM. It's unfortunate. And if your daughter had genuine grievances, I don't know why she should not reveal them.

    Peace.

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  • 174. At 3:46pm on 13 Oct 2010, bestie07 wrote:

    radioactivestarfish, I fail to see what the problems that your daughter might have faced, and that the entire 4000 strong athlete contingent has been warned to keep mum about that, considering that some of them haven't exactly been quiet about their feelings, if you know what I mean. The only thing that I can think of is that you are spouting s***, and if by a very remote chance you are not, then we are sorry for the inconvenience your daughter faced and would be extremely interested in you explaining further than just speaking in layman's terms about the village.

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  • 175. At 3:47pm on 13 Oct 2010, bestie07 wrote:

    radioactivestarfish, I fail to see what the problems that your daughter might have faced, and that the entire 4000 strong athlete contingent has been warned to keep mum about that, considering that some of them haven't exactly been quiet about their feelings, if you know what I mean. The only thing that I can think of is that you are speaking a lie on an internet platform (and why does that not surprise me?), and if by a very remote chance you are not, then we are sorry for the inconvenience your daughter faced and would be extremely interested in you explaining further than just speaking in layman's terms about the village.

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  • 176. At 5:17pm on 13 Oct 2010, Radioactive starfish wrote:

    bestie07 I take exception to the fact you make me out to be a liar how rude !
    You have no idea who I am what gives you the right to comment on my integrity ?
    I will not go into any further detail as it would be difficult without my daughters name and that would not be fair to her......I have said all I can without giving her identity I agree totally with olympics fan if you dont wish to believe that is ok.
    Just wanted to show some support for the Athletes that have struggled I shall no go away !

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  • 177. At 6:32pm on 13 Oct 2010, bestie07 wrote:

    I apologize if I may have come across as rude. But I am quite certain what/who I would rather be believing, athletes speaking directly to the camera in front of the Taj, or an anonymous poster claiming that 4000 athletes have been under some kind of pressure to lie (and apparently they must have been given some acting classes too). Again apologies if you thought I was rude, and in hindsight, I think I was. But again, I don't believe a word of what you said. And neither won't anybody with an ounce of common sense.

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  • 178. At 7:19pm on 13 Oct 2010, umang25 wrote:

    #172 @radioactivestarfish

    I read both the comments, In first comment it seems that she is seriously ill, losing 6 kilo's and still frequently going to toilet sounds quite serious. And as per your second comment it seems that she won a gold medal, I fail to understand how is that a person who is so ill compete and won an event. And how is it that Athletes are praising the village, its security, food and other facilities when condition is so bad, how come BBC and other NEWS reporters didn't report such incidents? How come they were trying to find even smallest glitch and make it a big issue, and left this big and juicy news from the world? Reporters are still trying to find problems at CWG2010 as their initial claims and scary stories didn't was ridiculed by many athletes. If people were falling sick left right and center Athletes could not have participated and won their events. The food provided at CWG village and the water in the pool meets international standards, and is tested by many laboratories. If you are telling the truth why don't you and your daughter come forward and give an interview I'm sure reporters will be glad to hear about it. And why don't you tell us your daughter's name? anyone can claim that my boyfriend/girlfriend, daughter/son is there and facing so many problems. Other question arises that how come you were not there cheering and supporting your daughter?

    @Olympic fan: how come you were not there supporting and cheering your boyfriend at the games. I would have done for my loved ones if they were participating in major events like this one.

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  • 179. At 8:05pm on 13 Oct 2010, umang25 wrote:

    This interviews might interest you all

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9089761.stm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9088797.stm

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/Lessons-learnt-CWG-2010/Article1-611689.aspx

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  • 180. At 9:57pm on 13 Oct 2010, redpreacherman wrote:

    Hi there Umang25,

    In the interests of fairness.

    Olympic fan does say she was there and her mother claims her to be the world no 1 in her sport, which is a long way from claiming the girl won a gold medal!

    Rebecca Adlington in her interview makes reference to an English girl who was very ill and goes on to affirm that those who suffered were affected to differing degrees.

    Just as the news about Delhi Belly was breaking I saw a report from the BBC showing a girl being ill at the poolside and being led away too ill to compete. The commentary suggested she would have been a strong contender for a gold medal.

    I honestly do not know if there is a connection but it does seem that there might be some truth in what the girl and her mother are claiming. Enough to give them the benefit of the doubt? Possibly, possibly not.

    I feel sure there has been some over-hyping and exaggeration in the case which clouds judgement and makes it difficult to be sure where the real truth lies.

    It is clear from the reports above that certainly those who visited the Taj Mahal thoroughly enjoyed their stay in India for the games and felt they were a great success.

    Clearly there were difficulties leading up to the start of the Games and mistakes were made during them but I do not think they were so serious as to detract long term from the future and continuing success of the Commonwealth Games.

    My best moment was the victory of the Indian women in the 4 X 400 Meters relay and sheer pleasure of the BBC commentary team at their success. India have done well and I have sat at home in my armchair and thoroughly enjoyed everything I have seen much to the disgust of my wife who suggests I have spent much too long in said armchair!

    Ah well, I look forward the day when I can watch the Olympic Games being televised from Delhi.

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  • 181. At 10:56pm on 13 Oct 2010, Aru wrote:

    wow great to see this blog still carrying on.Sorry couldn't catch the updates.The new links are fab and lets celebrate the closing ceremony tomorrow.

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  • 182. At 10:57am on 14 Oct 2010, billion_plus wrote:

    BADMINTON GOLD !!!

    Well done INDIA!!!

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