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Should there be a fuel duty stabiliser?

09:27 UK time, Sunday, 9 January 2011

The Federation of Small Businesses (FSB) is calling on the prime minister to fulfil a Conservative manifesto pledge to limit fuel duty increases. Should there be a limit?

Petrol prices are now at a record high after recent rises in VAT and duty, with the UK now having the second highest diesel price in Europe.

A fuel duty stabiliser would cut duty when oil prices rise, and increase when prices fall.

Have you been affected by rising fuel prices? Is the cost affecting your driving habits? What impact would a stabiliser make to you?

Thank you for your comments. This debate is now closed.

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    No.

  • Comment number 2.

    WOW

    1 week after duty goes up, 5 days after VAT on fuel goes up, the goverment starts to realise that cost of fuel is hurting peoples pockets.

    Our local garages charge 130-133 a ltr of unleaded. Up from 105-8 at the time of the election.

    As we live in the country side in kent we dont have a choice to use the car. We have been hit with double diget rises in train fairs, for the last 5 years to pay for HS1, a return trip on the bus is over £6, a rail seison ticket with station parking and under ground is between 7 and 8k depending on how may under ground zones you opt for.

  • Comment number 3.

    Another broken promise from this Government of broken promises and pledges.

  • Comment number 4.

    With luck it will apply to heating oil as well...

    Last 12 months heading oil has been in the 38-48p a Ltr, second cold snap hits in december and it doubles to over 80p with a 6 week wait for delivery!

    Its currently at over 78p and a 5 week wait for delivery in kent. In 12 years of using heating oil it has only twice been over 50 a Ltr once 3 years ago and now.

    So when you complain about the 5-6% price rises for GAS think of those on heating oil, a house heated with a oil boiler in a cold snap can easily burn 20ltrs of oil a day! or at todays prices £112 a week in oil. Thas MORE than the weekly national pension.

  • Comment number 5.

    Should there be a fuel duty stabiliser?

    Yes, as long as it is in the form of a general election.

  • Comment number 6.

    Introduce a fuel duty stabilizer? What, reduce the value of a government revenue stream? Quietly and humanely put to sleep the cash-cow that started off as the “fuel price escalator” back in 1993 and has continued to raise fuel prices above the level of inflation ever since (although the FPE was abolished in 2000)?

    Oh, and before people start pointing political fingers at the opposing colour, the FPE was brought in by the conservatives at 3%. Labour found it so attractive they upped it to 6%

    It’ll never happen. In the name of reducing road pollution and road building, our glorious (is that the right adjective?) leaders have found a captive market to milk for all it’s worth.

  • Comment number 7.

    The cost of fuel affects the final price of virtually everything in the Economy. Obviously it costs what it costs but as the price fluctuates so much it should reliably track market prices, not go up within hours and come down over months. It won't happen though.

  • Comment number 8.

    When enough companies go under because the goods are too expensive due to overheads incurred in transport, and heating their offices - but it will be too late then.

  • Comment number 9.

    Cameron says he wants to help people, the only people he wants to help are the bankers. I agree there should be a fuel duty stabiliser, as Aneeta Trikk says, in the form of a general election.

  • Comment number 10.

    Of course there should be otherwise GB won't have a transport system or any HGV's left. This should have been put in place years ago. If the system is introduced then retailers will be able to price goods for the long term as they will be more stable. Consumers will be able to manage their spending more easily and so they can aid each other.
    It should also stop HGV transport firms going bust as they will be able to set transport rates for a long term instead of short as they have no choice at present.

  • Comment number 11.

    What a HOLE this government is now in!!
    "U turns" galore and also by Cameron saying that the VAT rise is here to stay! Surely a stupid comment?
    Instead of giving some flexibility, any change to that will now be another U TURN!

  • Comment number 12.

    Anyone unlucky enough not to live in one of the big conurbations is going to feel the pinch very badly. We live in the South West, where public transport is either non existant or very very poor. We have to drive, we have no option.
    Prices need to be stablised, as it feeds through to everything else causing massive inflation. I heard a commentator on this morning's political show state that the Bank of England needed to raise interest rates as inflation is going up. Crazy talk and a complete misunderstanding of the reason why it is going up, because food, fuel and everything that travels by road is going to be much dearer from now on. People have to buy the essentials, so inflation will continue to rise. If they put the brakes on the fuel rising, it should feed back into prices for essentials and reduce inflation. Though someone needs to make sure that it does and not trust to companies who may just be happy with the rise and not play fair with dropping pricing according to costs.

  • Comment number 13.

    NO- It should stay as it is. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER so Mr Cameron keeps pumping into us.So, if you are not good enough to survive then you should go under.I like the CON's, they look after all of us so they say.
    More power to the CON's,get this country of ours more like the USA where the rich get richer and the poor are canon fodder.

  • Comment number 14.

    No, it's not a fuel duty stabiliser that we need, it's a cut in fuel duty altogether.

    My driving habits were affected a long time ago. For a few years now I've only been able to use the car for getting to work. There's no money left for pleasure cruises. And now with the latest rises I have to weigh up whether it's worth getting out of bed in the morning to bother going to work.

    The tories slated the Labour party when they were in power over all their spending, but what from I've seen of Cameron so far, I'd say we jumped out of the chip pan straight into the fire. Cameron has been borrowing and spending like money's gone out of fashion and his budget was designed to milk every penny from the working man (and woman) to make us more State dependant and easier to control.

    Cameron is just a smarmy bluffer. He wants us to believe he gained favour with other EU members and successfully won a victory over the EU's budget rise of 2.9% negotiated down from 6%, when in actual fact, that was the figure already decided in previous rounds of EU summits. The fuel duty stabiliser is just another bluff as he tries to lead us to believe he's doing something about the cost of fuel.

    And just for the record, if you open your eyes and see what's going on you'll understand why non of the main three parties got my vote.

  • Comment number 15.

    The only ‘fair’ way is to make fuel duty a (smallish) percentage of the actual cost of a litre of fuel. Then it would automatically increase and decrease inline with the cost. In my mind, this would be around the 20 to 25% of the cost, not the 70-75% it currently is.

  • Comment number 16.

    One of Camerons election promises was to stop hurting the motorist. So the fuel duty went up (he was in office 7 months - why didn't he stop it?) and then VAT goes up and what does he say.

    Oh he's so understanding of the problems this causes and will look up setting up a comittee to see what measures can be looked into for recommending a report on the potential for a duty stabiliser.

    A complete load of hogwash. A millionaire Thatcherite with no understanding of the financial pressures that the ordinary majority of this country face on a daily basis.

  • Comment number 17.

    I suppose it depends on your view of what taxes, and in particular fuel tax, is designed to do. If it is simply to raise money for the country, you'd probably say "No." If it is to raise money for the country whilst at the same time ensuring that it doesn't inadvertently add to inflation, you'd probably say "Yes." It's complicated by the "Green" agenda, but that's the nub of the argument.
    Personally, I try to take a broader view, and would say "Yes." Not for me as a motorist, because for the few miles I drive, it'll make little difference; I say this because I'm more concerned at its effect on other aspects such as food prices etc.

  • Comment number 18.

    If your employer pays you to drive your own car on company business then the most that you can be paid, tax free, is 40p per mile. And that 40p has not changed since 2002. So, the only conclusion I can draw is that HMRC thinks that the cost of motoring has not increased for the last 8 years.

    Why is this allowance not being looked at ?


  • Comment number 19.

    This nation runs on fuel. With the continuing runaway cost that we have experienced over the past few years(now £5.85 a gallon), everything is effected. In just 3 weeks the cost of domestic heating oil rose about 75%. Blatent exploitation. I wrote to my Tory MP to find out what he was going to do about it. His reply was patronising verging on 'I couldn't care less' attitude. I take this as the view of most of those in power.
    To paraphrase George Orwell- We're all in this together just some are more in it than others.

  • Comment number 20.

    Petrol is not overly expensive, the tax on it is. So ,Yes.

    'Diesel second highest price in Europe', we are among the leaders in at least one league table then. Shame about the rest of them.

  • Comment number 21.

    Yes we should have a fuel stabiliser. But don't set the price at the peak price as will probably happen.
    Stable prices will help businesses predict their budgets much more accurately. It'll also encourage the Govt to seek alternatives to oil/petrol and reduce our dependency on the Middle East.

  • Comment number 22.

    This Coalition/Cameron is focusing TOO MUCH on TAX, SPENDING CUTS and Interest rates - soon to RISE - is going finish off the economy for good!!
    Instead of concentrating on GROWTH (where is THAT going to come from exactly?) the ONLY thing this Tory led coalition want to do is idealogically clobber the public sector, jobs and tax people to the hilt at the same time! Total inexperience and incompetance I say.
    - Cameron has left it too late to start thinking about growth now!

  • Comment number 23.

    There can't be a fuel duty stabiliser, it's entirely against the principles of the pseudo greens in the Lib Dem party, and they would be really upset if the common people continued to run around in cars. Better to just hammer the fuel distribution companies who are busy ripping off the motorist and claiming it is the fault of world prices.

  • Comment number 24.

    Why doesn't the government cut international aid rather the rise fuel duty

  • Comment number 25.

    Fuel is overtaxed disproprtionately anyway.

    And that's before the unfair double taxation kicks in when the fuel+tax total is assessed for VAT instead of the actual cost of the fuel being used to calculate the VAT due.

    I would like to see pump prices displayed as "This is the cost of the fuel and this is the taxation" as well as the total due.

    The only excuse for the overtaxation of fuel would be if motorists saw any benefit from it.

    Why not ditch car tax altogether - you'd save on the administration and policing of its collection - we all HAVE to put fuel in our cars to make them go, it is a deliberate act to pay your car tax (I just renewed mine - ouch!).

    If feeling really radical, why not set up a scheme whereby the fuel tax includes third party car insurance (the bit you're legally required to have)? If you want to insure against theft or damage to your own vehicle, go buy it, but the problems caused by those who do not take out the legal minimum insurance would be obviated at a stroke. No need to police it, no additional costs to those of us who do insure our cars when someone who cannot be bothered to bumps into us....

    Hey - these are good ideas that benefit citizens. So politicians won't be interested :(

  • Comment number 26.

    No. The sooner the Con Lib Dems stop messing about with the Economy in order to bring it in line with the Conservative Right Wing Free Market policy - which is "Let the weakest go to the wall and let the strongest take all" . -only then will the Economy be able to recover from the politically motivated machinations of the power crazed Lib Dem Cons. Of course they won't stop until the power is taken from them.

    Watched Cameron on TV this morning. Nauseating, A prime example of "the insolence of office" .

  • Comment number 27.

    "11. At 10:29am on 09 Jan 2011, sledger10 wrote:
    Instead of giving some flexibility, any change to that will now be another U TURN!"
    --------------------------
    This is why the Government ( any Government ), once it has made a policy, can never change it. It works like this :

    1. The Government announces a policy.
    2. The Opposition says it is wrong and must be changed.
    3. The Government agrees and changes it's policy.
    4. The Opposition then accuses the Government of a U-Turn and says it is weak and feeble.

    => The Government will NEVER change policy.

  • Comment number 28.

    Here is the actual wording of the manifesto pledge:

    "We will consult on the introduction of a ‘Fair Fuel Stabiliser’. This would cut fuel duty when oil prices rise, and vice versa. It would ensure families, businesses and the whole British economy are less exposed to volatile oil markets, and that there is a more stable environment for low carbon investment."

    Where does it say in any political party's manifesto that they will introduce all their pledges within the first year of government?

    Before all the usual anti Tory posters get over excited, the Conservatives have until May 2015 to honour this manifesto commitment.

  • Comment number 29.

    Should there be a fuel duty stabiliser?


    David Cameron said before the election that he would end the government war on the motorist. Anyone going to the fuel pumps today to fill up their vehicle will not see any government love for the motorist. Just before the general election, Labour increased the road tax on vehicles as a parting shot before they were booted out of office. The politicians see the motorist as a "Wallt on wheeels". Various local councils around the country have boosted their takings from the motorist. We wake up to discover double yellow lines have been painted overnight. Edinburgh council earn a fortune from the motorist. Nottingham council wants to charge workers to park their cars through the day, increasing the cost of employment.

    The war on the motorist is not doing government any favours.

  • Comment number 30.

    Considering the current rulers did not introduce the 'lets put fuel duty up every budget', why are so many criticising them? That wonderful little rule should be scrapped and the fuel duty should be permanently capped at a reasonable (but much lower) level.
    There could be a system where the cost of fuel evens out over time, and will work out cheaper in the long run.
    The good old US of A will always want more than their fair share, pushing the price of oil up, so we should be better of. Whether extra duty when the price is lower is the right one I'm not so sure.
    Companies should pay a fine if they keep putting the price up, to swell their coffers. They are very quick to put the price up, a little shy of putting it down.

  • Comment number 31.

    '25. At 10:45am on 09 Jan 2011, Megan wrote:
    I would like to see pump prices displayed as "This is the cost of the fuel and this is the taxation" as well as the total due.'
    --------------------------------------------
    This is what they do in the US ( I'm not sure about petrol ); but if you buy something in a shop or eat in a restaurant for example, the displayed price is shown without sales tax; the tax is added on at the till. That way you can see exactly what tax the Government is taking.

  • Comment number 32.

    Yes, the massive taxes on fuel should be cut NOW. Or even better, a General Election should be held NOW.

    This atrocious government is like Robin Hood in reverse, stealing from the poor to give to the rich bankers.

    Yet our deluded PM warns against "banker bashing". He really does not have a clue.

    WE ARE NOT IN THIS TOGETHER, DAVE AND GEORGE.

  • Comment number 33.

    I wish Cameron would just stop saying WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!
    We're NOT!!
    When he says that the rich are paying the same price, it's a total lie.
    VAT hits the poorest people hardest and the richest people just get away with it because they can afford it!
    - The rich keep their jobs and the poor and vulnerable are the first to lose theirs.
    This idea of stop bashing the banks just doesn't wash either - banks profit whilst others fall, AND - WE PAID FOR THEIR MISTAKES!
    Stop peddling all this rubbish Mr.Cameron! He still doesn't understand the social composition of his own country, which is why he won't last long!

  • Comment number 34.

    Whilst the cost of fuel hits the poorer harder than the wealthier- if you have a large bonus and a status gas guzzler a few pence on fuel will not be a major issue- but if you live in a rural area with out much public transport a different matter especially if on a low or fixed income.
    In theory the fuel rise should help from a green environmental prospective as by walking a mile to the shops or using the bus reduces emmisions and could even help our fittness. Undoubtably some of us will look at our car usage -is that journey necessary/ but as we are so used to sitting in our car many will just pay up, rather than use a bus or car share. just look at the number of single occupancy vehicles or buses with just a few people on arriving at any uk town for work.
    In Daves big society we could organise car sharing splittig fuel costs or lobby for more worktime buses in some areas but I fear that any will just continue to drive as before in their car cocoon, paying the extra than look for alternatives.
    As for a fuel stabiliser isnt that interfering with market forces so a no no for condem dogma? unless they see it as a way to restore a flagging popularity - they squeaked enough in the fuel blockades under labour.

  • Comment number 35.

    Let me see now!
    Round 1;
    Use fuel duty to increase inflation. Peg the bank rate at almost zero to to reduce the value of savings. Limit inflation rises on pensions saves the government money.
    Round 2;
    Employees will use strike action to force higher wages. Inflation will increase further but the effects will not be so bad for those employed.
    Retired people on pensions will see a serious reduction in standard of living.
    Government objective achieved! What was that hidden objective? To cut the pension burden to the treasury.



  • Comment number 36.

    How this all affected me simple. Sunday 2nd January filled up 60 ltrs of diesel in the UK, Shock!!!!! over £80.00 before the VAT rise.

    Next day on way to Germany refilled empty tank, same amount of fuel, € 71 shocked again. How can this be £20 a tank cheaper??

    UK pricing is scandalous. The government is losing out on income because many Haulage firms are filling up overseas before coming back to the UK. These are UK based companies that deliver our goods trying to save overheads and costs but the UK government keeps on crushing the fuel user and companies that cannot fill up in Europe will eventually die and UK haulage will then become European haulage and we will pay a higher price then. Another industry being forced out by our government policies.

    On my return from Germany I will fill up on this side of the channel again and if it was not against the law I would probably fill up a large reserve tank.

  • Comment number 37.

    So the idea is that Lord Snooty complies with one of his pledges,first time for anything I suppose!

    Mind you because the Oil companies are making excessive profits(they always go up when wholesale fuel prices rise ) this shouldn't be the reason to cut tax.

    Incidentally the fuel companies section of the pump price is now some 10p per litre higher than the last time wholesale prices were at the current level!

    The wholesale retail price escalator is primarily as a result of multinational oil companies "selling" the product to differing sections of their own corporations while transferring product from well to pump!

  • Comment number 38.

    I think it is about time that we held elected people responsable for their election promises. Is no one else fed up that every party lies to get into power and then takes more money from people who work hard to earn it in the first place. Until the UK is a fairer place to live in where people are held accountable then nothing will change. I for one am struggling to see a future in a country who thinks it is sensible to tax every business so much that it becomes unsustainable.

    Yes duty on fuel should be cut, if I were to attempt to use public transport to get to work on time I would have to leave the night before. My husband is an HGV driver and leaves for his work at 3.30am, no public transport available at this time. Because we do not live in a highly populated area we are penalised because we have too use our cars.

    Maybe it is time that parties lost power if they break too many election promises and the liars, cheats and fraudsters that appear to make up a percentage of the parties are given sentences that reflect the severity of the crimes they commit.

    Sorry bit of a rant but finding it hard to see a rosy future for our once nice country!

  • Comment number 39.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 40.

    YES, fuelprices are way too high and will get higher still, and how do wepay for the fuel I for one do not know if I cana fford to drive anywhere, I have a disability which allows me the Motability car but the fuel to put inside is WAY TOO HIGH thanks to this governments taxation policies.

    It is well over due for politicians AND THE PM to honour their 'promises' if not KICK THEM OUT, I recall those petrol / fuel protests long ago, are we all asleep now ?

    Time for ACTION -- time for the small people to STAND UP and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

  • Comment number 41.

    Of course, everything that is taxed in this country needs looking at we get taxed on our earnings, savings, travel, petrol, heating, lighting and inadvertantly on food because of the excessive taxes on fuel.

  • Comment number 42.

    British fuel cost are beyond the pail. If the Government bring in a flexible tax pricing system to buffer price increases,at least it will show they might be on our side. Why are our fuel costs so high in relation to the Continent?

  • Comment number 43.

    yes,i remember "dave" giving it large over the plight of motorist,also i can remember is "i love hoodies" period,then again i can remember is europa pledges and noises about our position and membership in the market,he covered a lot of ground our "dave" did when,in opposition.if he can give the hauliers a rebate without giving the rest of us one,he may do it,of course he will try to rap it in pretty blue bows and bells to make out he's a nice guy,if not, FORGET IT..

  • Comment number 44.

    The only fuel duty stabiliser I wish to see is from the grass routes up from the people; another blockade by truckers and farmers. Not more crumbs off the governments table designed to appease us by creating yet more legislation and regulation. When prices go up on essentials which people cant avoid buying this generates fake inflation so the liars and cheats can justify raising interest rates. The eCONomy is in a cul-de-sac, they have nowhere to move. But politicians are impatient for a tangible improvement they can point to and take credit for before they are out on their ear to make way for the next bunch of incompetents.

  • Comment number 45.

    Don't blame coalition it was Brown and his Prudent accounting that have got us into this mess. I heard we spend £42.9 billion on interest payments compared to £39 billion on schools.

    They spent recklessly now we are all in a right mess.

  • Comment number 46.

    There is a bigger issue here, surely, which will render the present fuss over petrol prices rather insignificant.
    As population growth continues unchecked, demand for fuel keeps rising, oil prices rise and reserves fall, there will have to be a dramatic change in social habits. I predict that within my lifetime it will become almost impossibly expensive to get into a car and drive anywhere you wish. Private personal transport, except for high earners, will become largely confined to journeys within the range of electric vehicles. Costs will focus life more and more on local facilities, services and employment. Many out of town shopping and leisure centres which depend on access by car will be forced to close. There will be an expansion of public transport, road and rail, and it will become the norm for journeys over 50-60 miles. Declining traffic levels will make some motorway capacity redundant, with lanes closed permanently to save maintenance costs.

    There are big changes coming. Not immediately, but get used to the idea.

  • Comment number 47.

    Politicians over the years have tried to encourage us to use public transport and leave our cars at home. But the problem is that the country would grind to a halt if we tried it. There is no integrated transport system: the buses either all turn up at once or they don't appear at all. The trains are overcrowded because they fail to put on enough carriages for the number of passengers. The airports don't work when it snows. And if you live in the country, you cannot get around without a car.

    The politicians know this, and local government knows this. That's why the motorist is persecuted.

  • Comment number 48.

    The idea of a fuel duty stabiliser is welcome in principle but hard to see being implemented by the Con/Dem coalition in the present economic circumstances where every effort is focused on reducing the current deficit as quickly as possible. The BIG exception is the bankers who are poised to reward themselves with outrageous bonuses whilst the government seem to be "turning a blind eye" despite all the empty rhetoric from the likes of Cable, Cameron and Osborne about "We are all in this together"!!! No wonder that most people are utterly fed up and braced for hardship ahead in 2011. I would not be too surprised if there is another general election before the year is out even if the results are inconclusive but the electorate have a chance to choose a more representative coalition government where manifesto pledges are carefully scrutinsed and then kept - not abandoned.

  • Comment number 49.

    Cameron is so hypocritical!
    He says that rising inflation is a concern BUT it's him that's making it worse by raising VAT!
    He is contributing to his own problems and, the misery of millions.

  • Comment number 50.

    This is all just spin. Yes it will help the motorists and industry and it should be introduced. But the fact still remains that fuel duty is far too high. I googled it a couple of nights ago and our fuel duty is amongst the highest in the world; somewhere in the region of 165-175% of the cost of the fuel.

    This stabiliser is a way to trick us into thinking they are doing something big to help us. They should reduce the duty by around 50p a litre and then stabilise prices.

  • Comment number 51.

    I hate to say it but it seems to me Mr. Cameron is doing what all party leaders do when they get into power. They seem to set about breaking all pledges and resort to some of the nastiest, meanest and over the top measures whilst telling us 'we're all in this together'. Sadly we're stuck with this as there is no real opposition, Labour are a spent force and will be for at least a decade. The weakest, lowest paid and the vulnerable in society are yet again going to foot the bill of the rich. Every basic item the public need to buy will be more expensive, transport, food, clothes. These are essentials, forget 'luxury' items like tv's etc. I foresee a massive rise in business failures, rising unemployment and worse still, unrest on the streets. So far all this coalition is doing is wielding the big stick and keeping the carrots for themselves.

  • Comment number 52.

    You are joking of course ?? Aren't you ?

    IN your wildest dreams !!! Think if fuel goes up the government get more income from fuel
    Both Central and local government use fuel without restraint in most cases .Most Governments pay fuel expenses to certain public sector workers .

    Who pays for that. Taxpayers do ..

    It is not just fuel duty that is becoming a problem for small medium or even big business. Business rates are a huge growing problem to all business .
    There are more businesses go under because of business rates then go under because of fuel rates

    However fuel duty increases can become the straw that broke the Camel's back BUT are seldom the MAJOR cause Other crippling central and local government taxation are usally the Major cause to business going under.


  • Comment number 53.

    Diesel price in almost every country in the world reflects the lower cost of production compared to petrol by 20/30%. Time was,about 40 years ago, when this was the case in this country. Why is it not so today? With diesel engines so much more fuel efficient,this difference can only be justified by inland revenue and the fuel companies on the basis of revenue per mile.

  • Comment number 54.

    All we need now is another general election very disappointed so far not working at all the banks are getting away with it joe public is taking the fallout as usual .beartrix.

  • Comment number 55.

    When he was in opposition David Cameron announced that he would delay any fuel increase whenever the fuel started to rise and return it when the fuel dropped in price making the Conservatives sound the Party for the people. That was when Labour had the reins of power. Now he whistles a different tune and slides away from the question of the fuel escalator. David Cameron is just another politicion out to win as many votes as possible, and does the opposite when in power. He now has that very choice to make and keep his word. If he was true, he would be actioning the matter now. He keeps rattling on about the lower paid workers in this country...Well Mr Cameron when are you gouing to do it?

  • Comment number 56.

    Yet another broken pre-election promise. The trouble with these millionaire politions is that they are completely out of touch with the man in the street and have no idea what the effect of their actions are on Joe Public.

  • Comment number 57.


    tHE gOVERNMENT WILL ALWAYS "CLOUT" THE WORKING MAN, WHEN IT IS SHORT OF MONEY - AS IT IS AN INSTANT SOURCE OF REVENUE.

    wHY NOT FILL YOUR TANK TO THE BRIM - THEN TOP UP EVERY 50 MILES SO KEEPING THE COST TO PAY ALWAYS ON THE LOW SIDE - £ 10 IS BETTER THAN £ 50 TO LAY OUT !!!

    THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE TO CLOUT US - WE HAVEN'T SEEN NOTHING YET - SOON STAMPS WILL RISE - TELEPHONE CHARGES WILL RISE - WATER RATES WILL RISE - VAT ON FOOD WILL ARRIVE - VAT ON CLOTHES WILL ARRIVE - DOG LICENCES - HORSE LICENCES - TV LICENCES - ALL POTENTIAL TARGETS - YOU'LL SEE !!!!!

  • Comment number 58.

    I see the usual government bashers are out in full force yet again, when are people going to realise that Britain lived well beyond its means for years, (you may not have personally, but the country as a whole did). Debt has to be paid someway, and its unfortunate that this is how its being done, but thats just how the cookie crumbles!

    When i started driving 5 years ago, petrol was only 78p/l, now it costs nearly £50/week to commute from Swindon to Oxford, and the public transport that is available is either too expensive or unsuitable times, but instead of whinging you get on with it. Things will get worse before they are better, but at least now i have some faith that they will!!

  • Comment number 59.

    here we go again....clobber the driver......let the bankers carry on as normal...its business as usual...why do we bother voting for anybody, you may as well vote for the elvis party.cameron is using the rubbish labour government as an excuse..."were all in it together" says mr cameron...only some are more in it than others.

  • Comment number 60.

    The current government did not know just how bad the legacy left by Labour was until taking office. It was worse than anticipated. It is now being dealt with.

  • Comment number 61.

    This morning I listened to David Cameron on the Andrew Marr show. When ask about the rise in VAT, Mr Cameron went round the houses with his answer, without really answering Andrew's question. Then he was asked about the cost of fuel, and Mr Cameron, said that it was too early to give a commitment on the introduction of the fuel stabilizer as he had asked the Treasury to look into this. Mr Cameron then went on to say he understood how the average person felt with petrol costing £1.30 per litre. Can Mr Cameron please tell us the average motorist when was it that he last paid for his own petrol. The more I watch Mr Cameron the more angry I become, because this man is lying through his teeth and he believes that we the serfs are fools. When will the politicians learn that people are not fools and to sit there and give bare face lies in the hope that the taxpayer will continue to fund their lavish lifestyle. None of the promises or pledges that Mr Cameron and his party gave the British public have been implemented. The only thing that we hear is that the country is in a mess and that we are all in it together. Labour were a bunch of self rightous individuals, but the Conservatives and their side kicks the Libdems are no better, in fact they are also liars.

  • Comment number 62.

    If UKIP had the balance of power we would be heading for better times and not paying the EU 40 mil a day to be a member of the failing club. A lot of theses taxed would have been avoided.

  • Comment number 63.

    Of course there should be a fuel duty stabiliser. That way the government can quite sensibly iron out the peaks and troughs of the erratic price of oil, (something that OPEC is supposed to do automatically).
    I don't understan why there are so many posts refering to the price of fuel in times gone by. At least under this new regime we are getting information up front, no matter how bad, whereas before GB used to try and hide price hikes.

  • Comment number 64.

    56. At 11:36am on 09 Jan 2011, gilling wrote:
    Yet another broken pre-election promise. The trouble with these millionaire politions is that they are completely out of touch with the man in the street and have no idea what the effect of their actions are on Joe Public.
    ================================================================
    Broken pre-election promise? The Conservative manifesto said they would CONSULT on the introduction of a Fair Fuel Stabiliser. The Treasury is looking at it but it may be too early to introduce it until the economy is in better shape. In Government, Labour criticised the proposal saying it would create a £3bn pound hole in public finances.

  • Comment number 65.

    Gordon Brown visited Saudia Arabia in 2008/9 to ask the oil rich sheiks could they produce more oil, as like now, the oil prices are rising higher. Gordon "fighting in our corner" was told by the sheiks "drop the tax he imposed on the fuel" there will be no increase in production. He returned home but the fuel costs also remained higher.
    David Cameron has now proved to me that he is a myth speaker and should resign himself to fairy stories...or simply resign.

  • Comment number 66.

    This is a government devolved of ideas, they are unable to restore economic stability by creating manufacturing jobs, to weak to introduce stringent import taxes to protect our industry from communist slave labour economies and their imports, instead they know only one thing, ringing more and more blood out of the dying heart of our country, the pockets of it's people in never ending tax increases.
    I dont know how long we can keep bailing the failing clueless governments out with our savings, but one thing is for certain HMS Great Britain is going to the bottom of the sea of debt with all those left on board. Anyone with anything about them has already swam for it.

  • Comment number 67.

    60. At 11:49am on 09 Jan 2011, Lynn from Sussex wrote:

    The current government did not know just how bad the legacy left by Labour was until taking office. It was worse than anticipated.

    And your proof of this is? Or are you just guessing? Personally I think that the politicians just lied to us to get into office and decided to look after their own. My proof? Experience of too many lying governments.

    It is now being dealt with.

    But at what cost?

  • Comment number 68.

    #57..i cant follow your logic..if you pay out for a full tank ..then keep topping up regular...what happens if the price goes up every day which it near enough does.u will end up paying more . the best bet is not to drive..dont work ..scrounge every penny you can from a rubbish system..and then vote to come out of europe.

  • Comment number 69.

    Why do we pay VAT on the Fuel Duty element? I really object to this tax on a tax!!

  • Comment number 70.

    Fuel Duty should be cut by 75% and the VAT should be removed completely.

    It is a scandal that an essential item for everyday living is taxed this way.

    And to all and sundry complaining about the loss of Revenue for the Government, here is the solution YOU PAY IT!

  • Comment number 71.

    Of course there should but we need hundreds of billions of pounds to continue to bail out the banks.So dig deep folks everything we need to buy to live is going to go through the roof. It is now but they are still fiddling the figures they wouldnt want to scare us, the sensible way would be to get the banks to pay back their debt but that would mean no jobs for MP's after parliament so that ones out.

    So get used to it people we havent even seen the start of the problems yet they have only been delayed.

  • Comment number 72.

    61. At 11:51am on 09 Jan 2011, U3708291 wrote:

    This morning I listened to David Cameron on the Andrew Marr show. When ask about the rise in VAT, Mr Cameron went round the houses with his answer, without really answering Andrew's question. Then he was asked about the cost of fuel, and Mr Cameron, said that it was too early to give a commitment on the introduction of the fuel stabilizer as he had asked the Treasury to look into this. Mr Cameron then went on to say he understood how the average person felt with petrol costing £1.30 per litre. Can Mr Cameron please tell us the average motorist when was it that he last paid for his own petrol. The more I watch Mr Cameron the more angry I become, because this man is lying through his teeth and he believes that we the serfs are fools. When will the politicians learn that people are not fools and to sit there and give bare face lies in the hope that the taxpayer will continue to fund their lavish lifestyle. None of the promises or pledges that Mr Cameron and his party gave the British public have been implemented. The only thing that we hear is that the country is in a mess and that we are all in it together. Labour were a bunch of self rightous individuals, but the Conservatives and their side kicks the Libdems are no better, in fact they are also liars.

    SPOT ON !!
    It is looking more and more like a Government of "US and THEM.."
    IF we are all in it together.
    How come :-
    The public sector is always first at the trough and last to limit its income? As prices increase so does the tax, duty etc : Automatically!!

    Hence more money for the Temples of waste

  • Comment number 73.

    Diesel Prices. Diesel costs less to refine than petrol by many percentage points. Why is it more expensive? It is less expensive than petrol in almost every country in the world. Some 40 or more years ago it was cheaper here in UK. Would some fuel expert or honest transport minister explain please.

  • Comment number 74.

    No; there should be no stabiliser. However, we should keep fuel prices down, and the best way to do that would be to subjugate the Middle East.

  • Comment number 75.

    We are just taxed to death in this country. It's a joke us having some of the most expensive fuel in the World, and the cheapest to produce, diesel, is the more expensive!

  • Comment number 76.

    Have you been affected by rising fuel prices? Yes

    Is the cost affecting your driving habits? No

    What impact would a stabiliser make to you? It wouldn't affect
    my driving habits

    Cameron is doing what Blair used to do - promising to look at something with a view to changing it which makes him look caring. However, he then leaves it to the likes of Hammond and Osborne (who in turn gets one of his minions to give out the news)to "let the air out of the tyres" by stating that it's impractical and too expensive.

    Typical PR stunt from an underbriefed PM.

  • Comment number 77.

    Diesel duty should be reduced to bring the price down to European levels.

    That would achieve three things:
    1. Our hauliers would be able to compete on equal terms with their European competitors.
    2. It would reduce the cost of transport and therefore keep consumer prices down.
    3. By encouraging the shift in cars away from petrol it would reduce fuel consumption, thereby reducing CO2 emissions and helping the Balance of Payments gap.

  • Comment number 78.

    Cameron, Conservative manifesto pledge to limit fuel duty increases.

    Cameron & cleg are looking at a fuel duty stabiliser,

    Cameron on the 9th. jan 2011 said he could not rule out further increases in april 2011.

    THE LIES GO ON AND ON.

  • Comment number 79.

    This is yet another political fiddle ; fuel prices go up and vat and some overpaid government official says O dear we will try and help the motorist !! what drivel no one has ever helped the motorist ; the longer they delay any action the more tax they get ; so the poor luvvies are still on their Christmas break dont disturb them please .

  • Comment number 80.

    All governments (whatever hue) know we are slaves to our cars, and will pay whatever it costs to fuel them. It still surprises me with the cost that the motoways are still full of drivers travelling in excess of 90mph!

  • Comment number 81.

    They have to do something but this stabilizer won't work. I travel a total of 600miles a week to work and as I work were the buses don't go it would cost me over £30 a day to go on the train and then get a taxi. and cost me far more to rent somewhere nearer, even with the price hike in pertrol its still cheaper for me to travel to work by road even though it will cost me an extra £640 a year. The solution is to make public transport cheaper and improve the public transport infrastructure practically. The government go on about removing the so called 'tax on jobs' well this is what the fuel prices are.

    So yes the government need to do something but quite simply I don't know what.

  • Comment number 82.

    #11 good point...surely the vat rise is only untill the "labour mess is sorted" oh no its permanant...what a surprise..i bet theres a few other permanants as well like bank bonus's . after taking the baton sucessfully off of a mr gordon brown...rip off britain is doing very well thank you very much.

  • Comment number 83.

    Should we have a fuel stabiliser as promised by smarmy Cameron - YES

    Will we have a fuel stabiliser as promised by smarmy Cameron - NO

    Rather like the Bank Bonuses - Soak the Poor - Pay the rich.

    We need another election - but Cameron is too scared - Clegg knows he'd lose.

    The ConDEMS are a total disaster. Remember the cuts are just beginning

    Vote Labour next time - and protest in the mean-time.

  • Comment number 84.

    if every one stuck together and did not buy fuel for
    a few days then things would change,
    i.e. would people pay £10 for a loaf of bread?
    No and the price would come down.

  • Comment number 85.

    78. At 12:21pm on 09 Jan 2011, sam wrote:
    Cameron, Conservative manifesto pledge to limit fuel duty increases.

    Cameron & cleg are looking at a fuel duty stabiliser,

    Cameron on the 9th. jan 2011 said he could not rule out further increases in april 2011.

    THE LIES GO ON AND ON.
    =======================================================
    "Limit" increases does not mean 'no' increases

  • Comment number 86.

    Here's something radical... how about a public transport system so good that no one would want to use their own car or move freight by road?

  • Comment number 87.

    No 28 Magi Tatcher writes today of her beloved Tories

    "The Conservatives have until May 20i5 to....."

    I don't think so Magi. The power crazed unelected Government, led by the millionaire Bullingdon bullies,
    will have their power politely but firmly removed from them long before then.

    The Electorate are not stupid.

  • Comment number 88.

    There must be one as otherwise this government is no better than the previous one of thirteen years. It must be the biggest windfall tax that the treasury has received in years. Living in a rural area with no public transport to speak of and that that is available at such a high cost a car is esential tom be able to survive in the 21st century. My biggest worry now is who do I vote for, the Labour party has always been hell bent on destroying the country, and now the conservatives have moved so far to the left that they too are likely to join in the conspiracy, that is perpetrated by the EU, to finish us off.

  • Comment number 89.

    dont matter to camron dos it hes just inherited 300 grands its good to talk when your loaded aint it

  • Comment number 90.

    I have never driven, I am 39 years old and have epilepsy, I don't have a choice.
    I am glad I don't have that choice, I have always looked for a job close to home and have always managed to find one. I live close to a supermarket and on a good bus route. I walk the 1.5 miles to work even though I have arthritis. I sometimes catch the bus when the weather is bad and understand that prices have to go up, I don't feel sorry for myself.
    I see numerous cars with one person in them and work with people who live nearby, some walk, some cycle, some run, some catch public transport and some drive; the ones that drive complain surprisingly about traffic, prices other motorists etc.
    If you want to simplify your life and save money look at your lifestyle.
    My husband is allowed to drive but chooses not to, why does he need to? He catches 2 busses to work, reads or listens to music and has numerous stories of amusing journeys. He travels with work on trains and the journeys tire him out they are lengthy and lead to long days and delays e.g. Birmingham, London, Edinburgh.
    You can have an easier and cheaper life if you choose, it is about choice.

  • Comment number 91.

    69. At 12:06pm on 09 Jan 2011, Nealey wrote:
    Why do we pay VAT on the Fuel Duty element? I really object to this tax on a tax!!
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    It's worse than that; you pay for your fuel out of earned income, so you have paid income tax on that as well. So it's tax ( VAT ) on a tax ( Fuel Duty) on a tax ( Income Tax ).

  • Comment number 92.

    It could be worse, just look at the price of fuel in Norway.

    http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

    It also looks like prices are rising throughout Europe and not just here in the UK.

  • Comment number 93.

    He, David Cameron Talks about fairness yet he continues to screw the populate, an unfullfilled pledge that is to balance fuel costs, what is the coalition mandate?

  • Comment number 94.

    28. At 10:48am on 09 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:

    Before all the usual anti Tory posters get over excited, the Conservatives have until May 2015 to honour this manifesto commitment.

    You mean when we're all bankrupt, jobless or both?

  • Comment number 95.

    We are the only country in the EU (probably the world) where diesel is more expensive than petrol. I don't know why as it needs less refining.

    keeping fuel high is inflationary and stupid at such a critical time with our economy. BUT, is the economy that bad I have to ask? There is no limit on banking bonuses even though the bailouts have not been repaid, we can throw money by the million to any country that wants it, (even if they have a nuclear or space program) and the money given hand over fist to the EU may as well be thrown on the fire. Don't get me started on phoney tony's wars!

    We are all being conned and most people are falling for it.

    I was made redundant a year ago. I could not find a job locally and have to drive a particularly difficult route to work, which is only 16 miles each way, but takes an hour each way. My new pay is extremely poor for the work I do and the job is becoming economically untenable. With the rise in the cost of living, I ask myself if I should just sell the car and give up. Let the state support me. After all, I have supported them for over 35 years.

    In our area we have been promised job creation time and time again, and yet jobs are diminishing weekly.

    I would like Mr Cameron to answer why he feels it is ok to make statements and promises that are never kept.

    He states he wants a cap on immigration yet campaigns for 80 million turks to be able to enter the country freely by joining the EU.

    What shade of muck does he think we have for brains. He should resign now on the basis that his intregrity is at the very least questionable.

  • Comment number 96.

    87. At 12:32pm on 09 Jan 2011, Pamela Read wrote:
    No 28 Magi Tatcher writes today of her beloved Tories

    "The Conservatives have until May 20i5 to....."

    I don't think so Magi. The power crazed unelected Government, led by the millionaire Bullingdon bullies,
    will have their power politely but firmly removed from them long before then.

    The Electorate are not stupid.
    =======================================
    By what means?

  • Comment number 97.

    It would make very little difference to the cost of fuel and it's affordability. If people want to cut fuel cost a more practical answer would be to organise car sharing groups. Anyone standing beside a road in the morning or evening rush hour can't fail to notice driver occupied only cars. This is simply wastage on a colossal scale!

    With respect to freight whilst road still holds the short-medium distance cost/logistical advantage rail has a long distance benefit - especially taking road maintenance, opportunity and social costs into the calculation.

    Rising fuel costs whether the result of producer and/or fiscal action requires a fundamental response which a fuel duty stabiliser will not deliver.

  • Comment number 98.

    Aint just about your car, you know. It affects everything - the supply of food, public transport, the NHS, the fire brigade, agriculture, maufacturing, the police, the armed forces, the economy, the vulnerable elderly and infirm - if it affects the public privately, it affects everything.

    Even if a componant or institution of society doesn't pay fuel duty, the people who make up that componant or institution do.

    People are always just focussed on the immediate effect on them - there's more to this than just our personal fuel bills going up.

    So, yes. It's a no brainer really.

  • Comment number 99.

    Post 69 @ 12:06pm on 09 January - 'Nealey'.

    Spot on.

  • Comment number 100.

    92. At 12:39pm on 09 Jan 2011, Magi Tatcher wrote:
    It could be worse, just look at the price of fuel in Norway.

    http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

    It also looks like prices are rising throughout Europe and not just here in the UK.
    ============================================
    One for the SNP to consider as they hold Norway up as a shining example of what an independent Scotland would be like (having recently ditched Ireland and Iceland as role models!)

 

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