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Vince Cable comments: Your reaction

19:05 UK time, Tuesday, 21 December 2010

Vince Cable will remain in the cabinet despite "declaring war" on Rupert Murdoch, Downing Street says. What impact will this have on the coalition government?

Following his remarks, the business secretary was stripped of his powers to rule on the News International owner's bid to take control of BSkyB, which is to be handed to Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt

The comments came in unpublished parts of a Daily Telegraph probe, revealed by the BBC. David Cameron said Mr Cable's comments about Mr Murdoch were "totally unacceptable and inappropriate". Labour said Mr Cable was a "lame duck" with "no credibility".

Mr Cable has apologised. He had earlier revealed deep misgivings about a number of coalition policies in his secretly taped remarks - including bank bonuses, immigration, and the speed at which the coalition was trying to push through changes in the health service, local government and other areas.

Were Vince Cable's comments inappropriate? Should he have resigned? What are the implications for press freedom?

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  • Comment number 1.

    Apologising is the only real mistake that Vince Cable has made.

  • Comment number 2.

    Nice to see the British Bloated Corporation lapping this one up.

  • Comment number 3.

    When liebour and the Tories start calling you names, you know you're doing something right!!

  • Comment number 4.

    Aren't we all a little bit at war with Rupert Murdoch?

    Merry Christmas.

  • Comment number 5.

    The sheer political opportunism of Labour amazes me. They must despise Newscorp for Murdochs decision to back Cameron but have given him an enormous helping hand by attacking Cable.

    Cable is unlikely to be able to block the takeover anymore, or will be severely weakened in trying it.

    I am disappointed that our politicians appear unable to keep their mouths shut. Political espionage must be incredibly easy these days

  • Comment number 6.

    Vince Cable should resign, his beliefs are more in line with Labour & he has always looked liked a square peg in a round hole. He built his reputation on nothing other than saying & promising things people wanted to hear, rather than what makes sense. I suggest after tripping the light fantastic in the xmas S C D he dances his way into the sunset & leave politics to more intelligent beings.

  • Comment number 7.

    At least one of the coalition members has the guts to speak out! Murdoch needs stopping or there will be no free press.

  • Comment number 8.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 9.

    Pat the old duffer on the head and put him out to grass.

  • Comment number 10.

    Murdoch and his brood are a dangerous to our democracy and to a free press. If you have ever watched Berlusconi's Italian television, you will have a good idea of the damage that someone like Murdoch could do if he had the power. Vince was wrong to do what he did in the way that he did it, but he is so right in wanting to curtail Murdoch's power.

  • Comment number 11.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 12.

    New Labour are showing their true colours by showing such blind support for their beloved News Corp.

  • Comment number 13.

    Also and good grief an actual debate with real substance I thought we were trying to avoid this kind of thing now BBC !!!

    Cheers

  • Comment number 14.

    Before the election, the LibDems went round promising the Moon on a Stick to everyone, safe in the knowledge they would never have to deliver on any of their promises.

    But, amazingly, somehow, they got into power, and Vince does not seem to be able to handle it. He looked like a fool over his handling of student fees and he's looking like a bigger one now.

  • Comment number 15.

    Vince Cable will remain in the cabinet despite "declaring war" on Rupert Murdoch, Downing Street says. What impact will this have on the coalition government?

    It will have no impact on the coalition government whatsoever.

  • Comment number 16.

    So the man is only human after all ? He has emerged from this debacle a little less statesman like but with really good news for many. And that is that the coalition is working. It is working through compromise born of resolution in the conflict of two different political ideologies. I must say I favour a far more right wing ideology that perhaps not even Mr. Cameron could deliver, but that was not mandated by the electorate. So we have obviously a robust exchange of differing views, more representative of the electorate's wishes than the policies of any single party alone. All Vince has done is to drop the fig leaf. Come the next general election, which will return a stronger conservative government, I think many will come to mourn the passing of a coalition.

  • Comment number 17.

    So tell the truth to those you think are your constituents and get pounded by the media.

    Tell lies and get pounded by the media.

    You might as well get castigated for being honest.

    Is Vince Cable the only honest man in a a government of dissemblers?

  • Comment number 18.

    I can see the headlines tomorrow "Cable & Ire-less"

    If I was Rupert Murdoch I'd put him on Page 3 with a topless picture of one of his confidants! Silly boy!

    Should he go? Well David probably got it right "Better to have him spitting out of the inner circle than spitting in. But he is making a lot of howlers these days. Maybe cabinet level is a bit beyond the man. I did start to think he was drowning!

  • Comment number 19.

    Senior member of the goverment who "bigs himself up" to a bunch of strangers. Are we really letting people like him run our country?

  • Comment number 20.

    Vince Cable has done nothing but talk common sense about Murdoch's ever growing (and biased) media empire, so what's he's got to apologise for?

    It's clear from the comments on here that the public support him and his views, so why are other MPs attacking him? I thought MPs were supposed to represent the people, not the fat cats and their corporate agendas.

  • Comment number 21.

    Vince Cable was very effective in opposition, and while not the right on everything seer that his image has portrayed since, he was certainly a lot more constructively challenging than the now chancellor.
    But there is more needed to govern than to oppose, and Cable is looking unfit for the former task, at least as part of the coalition. His stance on tuition fees was ludicrous and showed a man at odds with his position in a government formed out of compromise.
    Now, one has to question why he made such bold and brash remarks to people he did not know. I have not seen pictures of the reporters, but do wonder if the reason was nothing more than vanity. A man in power trying to impress two women. The use of such language as being at war with Murdoch makes little sense otherwise.
    And while I agree with not letting Sky take over BSB, as it holds too much power already and unlike the BBC makes few attempts to disguise its own political and economic bias (whatever the braying mob that swallows its drip, drip campaign of poison on the BBC may spit out), the difference is I am not the one making the decision and don't have to put my own opinions to one side.
    It is possible to have your own view on something and still make a detached decision on it; our law courts would not work otherwise, but Mr Cable has shown himself incapable. And while removing him of involvement in the decision on Sky is now correct, he has shown such ill judgement and revealed how uncomfortable he is with his position in the coalition that he should now do the right thing and step down.

  • Comment number 22.

    Yes, he should definately go. How can a member of the cabinet find himself discussing such topics with a couple of total strangers. What else is he capable of? He should have resigned 2 weeks ago with the tuition fee fiasco and they would'nt be in this mess. The man's a liability and should depart, but I guess he's far too important to the coalition and they can't have him sitting on the side lines where he can do some damage! Anyone else, he would be gone. Yet again, another show of incompetence and a stinky coalition mess!

  • Comment number 23.

    Cable is right. Murdoch and his evil brood have far too much influence already.

  • Comment number 24.

    I can't believe that Vince Cable couldn't keep his mouth shut - thought he was a bit more astute than that. Politicians can't be trusted to do anything right. He has just shot himself in the foot and severely weakened his position. Murdoch and his corporations need to be reined in - Vince Cable has just made that more difficult.

  • Comment number 25.

    Cable has shown the alarming flaw at the centre of this coalition.

    Never been in power, never expected to be in power and now no idea how to handle power. An ego run wild just like the rest of the chancers propping up a tory minority government.

    Some of the decisions already made will haunt this country for years to come. A carve up fast turning into a monumental botch up.

  • Comment number 26.

    I wonder what will happen if Murdoch declares war on Vince Cable.

  • Comment number 27.

    Mr Cable was incredibly naive to say what he did to 2 strangers. However, by recording the interview without prior notification, they are guilty of gross breach of his human rights and privacy, and their newspapaer should therefore be prosecuted and fined heavily; I suggest £100M.
    Nevertheless, Cable is right. The UK needs Macho Murdoch to own more of the British Media like it needs a nuclear bomb dropped on London, and the competition authority should now do its job correctly, and force Newscorp to sell all but 5% of BskyB, unlike its incompetently allowing Tesco to take over major players in the local convenience store market when it already had 30% of the UK grocery market.

  • Comment number 28.

    Blame Mr Cable of the lib/dems!!! Mr Murdoch who eats' people like him for snacks, he of course will have now have his way, could mean a very big increase, to the party funds for his friends??? power is wonderful.

  • Comment number 29.

    Who cares? Cable (and Clegg) lost his credibility over the student fees shambles. Naked opportunism triumphing over honest principles. And now Cable has been exposed as a third-rate eejit. He should resign, on the grounds of total mendacity and utter incompetence. I don't want to see Murdoch stitching up and down-grading the media in this country. I don't want Fox 'News'. He isn't the only one - porn-merchant Desmond is plans to reduce Channel 5 to a tit'n'bum channel.

  • Comment number 30.

    Terribly clumsy of Mr. Cable to discuss such things with 'constituents' even if they hadn't been undercover journalists, but an illustration of the pressure he is putting on himself to fulfil at least some liberal political objectives.

    From a moral perspective, I think anyone would be doing the British public a huge favour by dismantling Mr. Murdoch's media interests one by one, because it does nothing to promote a progressive society and preys on individual and social prejudice for its profits.

  • Comment number 31.

    "9. At 7:39pm on 21 Dec 2010, HaveIGotThatWrong wrote:

    Pat the old duffer on the head and put him out to grass."

    Vince was gonna try but blabbed too soon, darn shame!

  • Comment number 32.

    The Tory led government has decided that anyone who dares to confront Murdoch must be punished. After all, Rupert supported the Tories and Dave Junior must dance to his tune.
    The whole episode makes Cable look like a right idiot. If he had any self-respect he should resign.
    It is a godsend to Cameron because it is taking the heat of U-turn Gove and do nothing Hammond.

  • Comment number 33.

    Vince knows he can bring this weak government down, so ,come on do the right thing and lets get rid of the Tories and there filthy rich friends before they destroy what's left.

  • Comment number 34.

    "26. At 7:55pm on 21 Dec 2010, Cronkist wrote:

    I wonder what will happen if Murdoch declares war on Vince Cable."

    They'll never find him, and spend alot of our money trying?

  • Comment number 35.

    How many of you people moaning about Mr Murdoch buy The Sun, The Times and subscribe to Sky? There always has and always will be an alternative (BBC). Besides all of this Murdoch was an integral member of The A Team and we should not forget that.

  • Comment number 36.

    Mr Cable seems to have put his foot in it again although it looks like he's been set up here. But what's he doing? Silly man. It's only the other week he had to be brought in line for waffling on about not voting for the student funding changes proposed by his own department. Now this. Frankly, i think he's not up to this role at a time when the government needs strength and unity to face the shambles left by the last lot amongst other things. Time to go i think for Vince. Just not up to the job. Personally i never thought he would be.

  • Comment number 37.

    It will be a great day when murdoch buys the NYT and throws Krugman, Dodd and Rich on the street.

  • Comment number 38.

    First of all the core of any democracy is a fair and balanced media. Rupert Murdoch and his media have always tried to destroy that in every country in which he operates. ANY political party who claim to believe in a democracy should have already declared war on Rupert Murdoch and his dubious business practices. He should not be welcome in our country. Take a look at Fox news in the US if you want to see an example of what awful, biased and extreme right wing reporting Murdoch wants to give us.

    Murdoch is a right wing extremist. The Tories love him. He is their friend who takes them out to dinner and wines and dines them. He gives VAST amounts of money at election time and his media companies are constantly promoting the Tories and attacking everyone else.
    Murdoch and his empire are the reason we had Thatcher in power for so long. There is no way the Tories are going to bite the hand that feeds. Vince Cable has now given control of the UK media to Murdoch on a silver platter. The UK will be destroyed if Murdoch is allowed to dominate our media any further. We will no longer be a democracy. We should not be giving him any more power in our media - to protect democracy we should have been taking away what power he already has.

    Again, ANOTHER major blunder by the Liberals - I do not know how they sleep at night.

  • Comment number 39.

    Until this news broke, I thought Vince Cable was just about the most sensible member of the Coalition Cabinet.

    Harbouring the views he clearly has, he ought to have kept his mouth shut in any company, aware that bugging devices are ever-present; that way, neither the media nor anyone else would have been any the wiser about his personal crusades.

    This episode rather demonstrates how naive he is - but it is not a hanging matter. He should be allowed to remain in post to carry on the other good work of getting the UK out of the calamatous mess Gordon Brown and Labour left behind.

    I am quite sure that Judges and Magistrates alike are equally guilty of prejudging trials on the basis of personal bias, but they clearly keep well out of the public eye and the prying press, and stick to the rigidities of the law. The lesson to learn here is one of self-control in the face of wagging ears.

  • Comment number 40.

    Since this Con. Dem. government has been in power it has increased borrowing by 5.9bn That is to say in less than one year they have got us more into debt than any other government and increased taxation, ripped off the students cut services and given councils and firms excuses to throw honest folk out of work. One has to ask should it be left ONLY to Vince Cable to bring this greedy coalition down and stop this rape of the British people.

  • Comment number 41.

    I declare war on murdoch too. :-)

  • Comment number 42.

    35. At 8:06pm on 21 Dec 2010, ArsenewengerforPM wrote:

    How many of you people moaning about Mr Murdoch buy The Sun, The Times and subscribe to Sky? There always has and always will be an alternative (BBC). Besides all of this Murdoch was an integral member of The A Team and we should not forget that.

    You forgot his first names 'HOWLING MAD' now there's an appropriate moniker..

  • Comment number 43.

    This throws up all sorts of issues, from the coalition's inability to sack Cable, to the Tory MPs only complaining for show because overall they're getting what they want (massive ideaologically driven reforms and cuts), the Telegraph's journalistic integrity, the place of Fox/News Corp in British society.

    I think Cable's been targeted thanks to his current involvement in sorting out regulation of the banking sector. The method used was unfair and undermines the trust for future MP/constituent conversations so is AGAINST public interest. Vince Cable is totally justified in trying to fight the Murdoch empire's growing dominance over the and narrowing of the political public discourses. The Telegraph is just as bad.

    The BBC have a duty to the public to start investigating the links between billion pound investment companies like the banking sector and Fox, and the media they have ownership of. If they don't start soon we'll have had the BBC sold off to China by Osbourne before you can say "Haw haw! Tax cuts for the rich all round!"

  • Comment number 44.

    Nice to see Labour and Tory politicians putting their differences aside and supporting Rupert in his out of need!

  • Comment number 45.

    37. At 8:10pm on 21 Dec 2010, MagicKirin wrote:

    It will be a great day when murdoch buys the NYT and throws Krugman, Dodd and Rich on the street.

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    'The TRUTH you Can't Handle The TRUTH ...'

    great line and oh so true.

  • Comment number 46.

    Murdoch already controls far too much of the British media, so Cable was right to speak out as he has done. But, he will be sacrificing his career in the process. I hope it was worth it.

  • Comment number 47.

    14. At 7:44pm on 21 Dec 2010, HaveIGotThatWrong wrote:

    Before the election, the LibDems went round promising the Moon on a Stick to everyone, safe in the knowledge they would never have to deliver on any of their promises.

    But, amazingly, somehow, they got into power, and Vince does not seem to be able to handle it. He looked like a fool over his handling of student fees and he's looking like a bigger one now.
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    Vince does appear to have something approaching a conscience - probably a career limiting quality amongst that nest of blue vipers.
    If you want to talk about fools let's start with the over promoted dumbo who got the job Cable should have had - you know the one whose latest gaff was wanting to follow the Irish economic model......Derrrrrrr, in fact the same one who is slavishly adhering to his banking chums' agenda.

  • Comment number 48.

    "26. At 7:55pm on 21 Dec 2010, Cronkist wrote:

    I wonder what will happen if Murdoch declares war on Vince Cable."

    An astute reading of the situation would suggest he already has...

  • Comment number 49.

    What's the big deal here, some people claim the BBC is biased to the left, and others claim Newscorp is biased to the right, which you choose to believe is your own subjective opinion, and is conditioned by your ideological bent or upbringing.

    Murdoch does not force anyone to subscribe to Sky, unlike the BBC where if you want to watch any tv channel at all, you have by law to pay the BBC for the privelage.

  • Comment number 50.

    Well a Tory Rightwing Paper the Telegraph, the Home of Heir Tebbits bunch decides to expose Vince. Who expresses the views you would expect him to have. Smells like the the right wing of the Tory party got the answers they expected. We the Electorate are obviously not suppose to be able to see through this nonsense.

  • Comment number 51.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 52.

    Cable's never looked happy sharing a bed with these self serving tory toads - might even see a lift in the popularity of the Libs now, although thhey probably need to ditch Tory Boy Clegg - 2nd high profile rebellion this week...it's all looking very fragile - just like the powder puff sound-bite "policies" the tories keep spewing.

  • Comment number 53.

    Q. Bigger threat to the people of the UK, Ruport Murdoch or Vince Cable? This nonsense highlights the urgent need to formulate a mechnism to channel and act upon the will of the people who are sick and tired of the pathetic so called British democracy. Cable will no doubt retire from politics in the same way that Martin Bell and other well informed people have tried but failed to inject reality into British politics. Why do the British electorate continue to elect self-serving insincere ego-trippers who simply sell to the highest bidder? Our Failed Britain is unfortunately what the people voted for, it is time for people to stop being brainwashed by the media and think for themselves if they care about the future they are leaving for their children.

  • Comment number 54.

    The muppets have run riot in the house!
    Vince Cable only says what the majority of the Muppets are terrified of saying but would love to say if they had the guts. Mr Murdochs empire is already too powerful and needs positive discrimination to prevent it assuming more. This additional power will be undemocratic, anticompetitive and will affect the publics ability to make proper and fair judgement.
    Back Cable.

  • Comment number 55.

    This is the sort of Cable that should be leaked :-)

  • Comment number 56.

    I thought Vince Cable was good in opposition but now as a Minister he is proving even better.
    His courage to stand up against Murdochs Media Empire has shown the integrity of the man and is something we should applaud.
    Unlike ex Labour Cabinet members who were prepared to sell their influence like Geoffrey Hoon or tell lies to get elected as did Phil Woolas, Vince Cable has shown that he has principles and is prepared to stand up for them.
    Shame on the BBC reporter for spreading the 'tittle tattle' for political purposes.

  • Comment number 57.

    5. At 7:32pm on 21 Dec 2010, Cantankerous489 wrote:
    The sheer political opportunism of Labour amazes me
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    Do you really think the Tories or Lib Dems would have let it go had the boot been on the other foot
    What amazes me is the fact that someone in a position such as Vince Cable can be so stupid. Two women come to his surgery to discuss housing, he starts talking about his position in the Government and Rupert Murdoch, didn't the alarm bells ring with him when they showed the slightest interest. How many other constituents would come with a problem and start coming back with comments about Murdoch? The man must be either stupid or naive and it's worrying to think that he is holding the position of business secretary. It seems he can be coaxed into giving secrets away to a couple of young women, do we really want this sort of idiot in power. It says a lot about politicians, how many more of them are as arrogant or easily fooled. The first requirement of any minister is that he can keep some things secret be a good judge of character. I would hope that those in power and dealing with international politicians, business men and lobbyists would be more street wise. I suspect not they live in a different world from the rest of us
    Cameron is in a very difficult position, Cable is the Lib Dem golden boy and he is beholden to them, he can't annoy Murdoch or lose LD support. I would love to have heard what he said behind the scenes as I'm pretty sure he has a very short fuse anyway. The situation reflects badly on the PM who made the appointment so he will be trying to wriggle out of this one

  • Comment number 58.

    The Tories can't give away our businesses to foreigners fast enough ! Rupert Murdoch will get his way.

  • Comment number 59.

    So Ed Milliband would have sacked him....? I dont think so if the last labour lot are anything to go by you would need to have been REALLY bad and dangerous to have been fired,and I doubt if EM would have had the courage to terminate employment of a fellow traveller.Like the rest of my beloved country all ethics and sense have vanished and it's too late to do anything about it.
    What a laughing stock we must appear to the rest of the world.

  • Comment number 60.

    I think the spies who entrapped Vince Cable should be arrested and charged. I would like to know WHO? was behind this I wonder if it has anything to do with News International????

  • Comment number 61.

    In a statement, a Downing Street spokesman said: "Following comments made by Vince Cable to the Daily Telegraph, the prime minister has decided that he will play no further part in the decision over News Corporation's proposed takeover of BSkyB."

    Why do I get the impression that Vince Cable was setup to get him off Murdoch's back.
    The undercover reporters must have steered the conversation in the direction of the BskyB topic, why else would he mention these matters if it was just a normal MP's surgery, about every day matters?

    If he was setup, then who REALLY set him up, (apart from the Telegraph)......Cameron....Murdoch.....

    Politics and Money, fit together like a hand in a glove, eh!

  • Comment number 62.

    Billy the First said 'Vince does appear to have something approaching a conscience'. If you've heard him speak more informally in his pre-power days, this rings true.
    And take a look at early twentieth century Japanese history if you want a taste of the damage over-powerful conglomerates can wreak upon the little poeple. Is anyone else in government willing to stand up to the likes of Newscorp?

  • Comment number 63.

    Having not voted for any of the three main parasites (oh sorry I meant parties) my conscience is clear but it just goes to show that not one of them have any conviction or honour at all, they are all just in it for themselves and the power that goes with it.

  • Comment number 64.

    What on EARTH was this Government minister doing saying such confidential and politically sensitive things, to people he clearly didn't know?

    I used to have a huge respect for Cable but it is plain that he and the LibDems are unfit for government. Doesn't say much for Cameron's judgement either, that he's prepared to condone Cable's continued presence.

    To think that I voted for these clowns! Never again.

  • Comment number 65.

    This would never have happened under a Labour government. Sorry my Pseudologia fantastica has just kicked in.

  • Comment number 66.

    Politician has independent thought shocker!

    Why do the media regard politicians thinking for themselves as such a newsworthy issue? Surely it's far more unnatural to put a bunch of intelligent people together in a government and get them all to think the same, yet the media seems to think the opposite. Vince speaks what many people feel, namely that Murdoch has too much control already, and he gets vilified because no-one else in the coalition is saying the same.

    But why is nobody talking about what I believe is the big issue here - the deliberate attempt by a national newspaper to entrap an elected government minister. It is the media's job to report the news, not to seek to create it. I know the media are just dying to put the knife into the coalition, but that does not give them the right to effectively try to damage the elected government of the country. It is the electorate's job to decide who is in power, not the media, so what possible justification is there for the Telegraph to attempt to entrap him? If a foreign national did it we'd accuse them of spying, yet the press seem to think that it's fair game.

  • Comment number 67.

    9. At 8:22pm on 21 Dec 2010, Manfred wrote:

    What's the big deal here, some people claim the BBC is biased to the left, and others claim Newscorp is biased to the right, which you choose to believe is your own subjective opinion, and is conditioned by your ideological bent or upbringing.

    Murdoch does not force anyone to subscribe to Sky, unlike the BBC where if you want to watch any tv channel at all, you have by law to pay the BBC for the privelage.
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    Beeb ain't bias - the rabid right fronted by Murdoch can't control it and can't abide the fact.

    Difficulty to tell exactly what Murdoch does, as he doesn't get his hands dirty - in fact his approach us much like Ashcroft's - murky.

  • Comment number 68.

    I am very surprised that Vince Cable was caught off guard making such a contentious remark. Do these politicians become fixated by the power of office to such an extent that they cannot spot the dangers of entrapment by the media who just love to expose vanity and arrogance.

  • Comment number 69.

    The right wing bias of the UK media is frightening. Vince Cable did the right thing. He is trying to protect our balanced media. He knows that giving more power to this right wing Australian to take over our country's media is going to be a bad thing for us all (except the super wealthy). The media should be applauding Cable's bravery but instead they are attacking him for doing the right thing ! The people running our media have shown their true colours - the reporting of this whole incident speaks volumes about our corrupt UK media. I think we need to tighten our media laws to make sure we get more balance news - that would include kicking Rupert Murdoch and his business empire out of the UK.

  • Comment number 70.

    why on earth do seemingly sensible people get sucked in to be conned by disreputable newspapers..any paper that allows its so called reporters to use these tactics becomes disreputable by default...having said that.. to preserve his own reputation and feeling of self worth Cable should now resign and get back to the day job which should be all out opposition to this already failed government

  • Comment number 71.

    Trains halted due to cable damage
    is a headline on the same page as Cable being kept in Cabinet.
    Seems one can be forgiven anything!

  • Comment number 72.

    64. At 8:31pm on 21 Dec 2010, Imaniceberg wrote:

    What on EARTH was this Government minister doing saying such confidential and politically sensitive things, to people he clearly didn't know?

    I used to have a huge respect for Cable but it is plain that he and the LibDems are unfit for government. Doesn't say much for Cameron's judgement either, that he's prepared to condone Cable's continued presence.

    To think that I voted for these clowns! Never again.
    _________________________________________________________
    It wasn't just you, hundreds of thousands were fooled. I even paid £2.50 for a Libdem car sticker!

  • Comment number 73.

    Cable is right. Murdoch and his evil brood have far too much influence already.Whats even more frightening is the fortune spent on education and it produces so many Sun readers.

  • Comment number 74.

    Vince Cable seems to have been led astray by the girls from the Telegraph.What a way to go. His political career is now at an end.Maybe he should return to advising the Kenyan government. It looks like they might need some advice right now.

  • Comment number 75.

    Would a Telegraph Journalist like to explain the Journalistic justification for their tactics. I mean we are talking of the exposure of Politicians dishonesty aren't we, or perhaps the Telegraph journalist
    find the it difficult to understand the difference in meaning between
    honesty and dishonesty. Guess what they actually found out Vince does think the way we think he does.

  • Comment number 76.

    Did Cable really make a mistake in saying what he did to the two journalists or was it done on purpose as a preparation to taking over the Libdogs before the next election. I never believed in the cuts student fees etc etc.

  • Comment number 77.

    I suggest that most ordinary folk would immediately adopt a presumption AGAINST anything that Mr Murdoch was behind until it could be conclusively proven that it did serve some wider public interest in some small way. Mr Cable was probably speaking from the heart - and thats what we want - not the 'ever so cross, politically correct' posturing that we have come to expect from todays career politicians - whatever ideology they spout.
    Promote him I say - lets hear more plain speaking - except I think he and the rest of them have got tuition fees ALL WRONG. (speaking as an industrialist -not a student!)

  • Comment number 78.

    Soreshins, let me get this into my head so we elected a coalition did we?.Thought that was only a real elected Government under PR.

  • Comment number 79.

    OK I agree with him, we need to stop this megalomaniac swallowing up all and sundry so that we get only his news and at his price. VC slipped up, ok bit stupid but at least he said what I think many believe.

    We need more options that the one offered by Murdoch.

    I remember an old Bond movie where the news was made by the villain, wonder if Murdoch has a boat, if so maybe he would be on the borders of Korea firing off fireworks......

  • Comment number 80.

    64. At 8:31pm on 21 Dec 2010, Imaniceberg wrote:
    What on EARTH was this Government minister doing saying such confidential and politically sensitive things, to people he clearly didn't know?

    I used to have a huge respect for Cable but it is plain that he and the LibDems are unfit for government. Doesn't say much for Cameron's judgement either, that he's prepared to condone Cable's continued presence.

    To think that I voted for these clowns! Never again.
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    Grow up

  • Comment number 81.

    War on murdoch? Really? Where do I enlist?


    Didn't take milliband long to show us he's just like the rest.

  • Comment number 82.

    Am I missing something or was this an ageing and rather naive politician showing off to a couple of giggling girls?
    Human maybe, statesmanlike or well judged, never!

  • Comment number 83.


    Stop dithering Dave - sack him.

  • Comment number 84.

    Rupert Murdoch will get his way,thats why he chose to support the Tories in the last election,It is just now pay back time.

  • Comment number 85.

    He should have stayed in charge of the News Corp decision. No Tory minister would turn down Murdoch. The UK media is sliding down a slippery slope, and letting Murdoch get his way will put it down the plughole. And I'm a Conservative.

  • Comment number 86.

    44. At 8:16pm on 21 Dec 2010, Ava78 wrote:
    Did you bother to listen to or even read Ed Milliband's comment? You dont hear unreserved support for New Corp - what you hear is direct critisism of a PM to guttless to sack a senior cabinet minister for breaking the rules.
    In fact he clearly states he believes VC to be a decent man but non the less one that has messed it up big and for that he should go.
    If VC can indeed bring this horrendously self-obsessed government down, please bring it on. SOON!

  • Comment number 87.

    Just a bit surprised he got fooled by this one - No I dont mean Vince, I mean Cameron.

    Who cares if Milliband would sack him - Milliband would not have sacked Gordon so that is the best recommendation Vince could have had, unless Cam does sack him that is.

  • Comment number 88.

    drunk with power..short on ideas!

  • Comment number 89.

    Well, well, well Mr Cable. After working so hard positioning and taking the moral high ground in opposition, once you are in a role with some responsibility hasn't it gone right to your head?

    Firstly the u-turn on tuition fees, next the "I could bring the govt down" now "I've declared war on Murdoch". Who on Earth do you think you are? Bet there are 1m bankers laughing in their mojitos this evening!

    Shame on you. Leave the govt now.

  • Comment number 90.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 91.

    Elliot Carver is a fictional character in the James Bond film Tomorrow Never Dies. In the film, many viewers analysed Carver as a satirical take on Rupert Murdoch. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

  • Comment number 92.

    18. At 7:50pm on 21 Dec 2010, righteoussasquatch wrote:

    I can see the headlines tomorrow "Cable & Ire-less"

    If I was Rupert Murdoch I'd put him on Page 3 with a topless picture of one of his confidants! Silly boy!

    Should he go? Well David probably got it right "Better to have him spitting out of the inner circle than spitting in. But he is making a lot of howlers these days. Maybe cabinet level is a bit beyond the man. I did start to think he was drowning!
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Maybe Cable was silly - like Osborne when he took on Mandleson over "Yachtgate" but to suggest he's out of his depth amongst lightweights like Gove, Lansley, Giddyone himself ,Fox and Pickles (there's a first for Eric!) is absurd.

  • Comment number 93.

    26. At 7:55pm on 21 Dec 2010, Cronkist wrote:

    I wonder what will happen if Murdoch declares war on Vince Cable.

    definitely a disappearing act, much like the "democracy" of this land as we are integrated further into the European domain without a say in the proceedings, a democracy represents the wishes of the people while both Tory/condem and Labour refuse to allow the people a vote on this and other pertinent matters. Doesn't sound like a democracy to me, more like Adolph Hitler getting what he wanted by hook or by crook, stop taking the tablets, watching TV tripe and wake up, we've just become the EU latrine.

  • Comment number 94.

    1. At 7:23pm on 21 Dec 2010, Cosmologic wrote:

    Apologising is the only real mistake that Vince Cable has made.

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    Couldn't have put it better myself.

    I'm guessing Cable is off Murdoch's christmas payroll list then.

  • Comment number 95.

    There are unsubstantiated leaks from certain media quarters and quiet murmurings in the corridors of power about the two young female reporters supposedly working undercover for the Daily Telegraph.

    It is being claimed that the two pretty girls were actually working for and promoting the covert agendas and interests of the News Corp.

    It appears that Ruper Murdoch has today successfully orchestrated a right wing conservative minister to "impartially" guide his takeover bid of bskyb.


    If Murdoch and the Con Party get their way, they will inflict a real stranglehold and death warrant on democratic, plural UK news and broadcasting. Oh Happy Days for more dumbed down right wing news coverage!

    My subscription to all things Sky will cease immediately. Apart from Cable, there are many more bods willing to wage war on old money bags and to hit him where it hurts most.

    Despite all the media hysteria, both Cameron and Osborne are feeling pretty smug. Cable's indiscriminate tweeting has considerably weakened his sphere of Liberal influence in government and unintentionally inflicted further political damage on the Liberal Democrats' "readiness for ministerial office".

    Whilst all politicians abuse their supposedly "impartial" powers of office - nothing new there - they just don't admit it or advertise it. Having it exposed by Cable in the way he did is the biggest mistake any politician can ill afford to make.

    A cautionary word of warning to any arrogant individual or powerful corporation, whether in the public or private domain: If they ignore right guidance for democratic right action, it inevitably produces a coressponding effect.

    Julian Assange's wicked leaks have already exposed the hypocrisy, double-standards and lies as acceptable codes of practice in political and diplomatic negotiations on a global scale. Cable's crime is in being caught out for apparently saying what he means and meaning what he says.

    Very stupid. His ego prevailed and not his politically correct good sense.

    If Cable has any political savvy left, he would put his money where his mouth is and resign now. His future position on the back benches would be rendered more powerful than if he waits for the inevitable boot up the backside, when Laws is reinstated.

  • Comment number 96.

    Several reactions. Vince Cable despite being very bright was also amazingly naive and foolish to express in public his views. However, his sentiments are right. Murdoch is far too powerful and profitable. Put limits on him now before its too late. Next, journalists that are deceitful and even dishonest should be banned from any government conferences for at least 6 months. Ditto, any paper that uses dishonest reporters should be banned from press conferences for 6 months.

    I want honest reporting but I also want honest reporters.

    I want freedom of information but not at the expense of being dishonest to get it.

    If reporters are dishonest in revealing their profession and intent are applauded, we all suffer because everyone will become less honest in talking about what is happening.

    I think the same about the Guardian and the stolen American files. They are dishonest and need to be treated as such. Dr W

  • Comment number 97.

    The only principled thing to do when the victim of a "sting" of this kind is to resign. One conclusion from the fact that he has not done so is that the coalition is in such a fragile state that to do so would destabilise it further. Another conclusion is that the level of internal diaagreement in the coalition is so great that such a sting is a minor distraction to them and a resignation would make others more likely.

    Cable is rapidly becoming a vain old man, engaging in celebrity dancing at a time when he should be giving the problems of the country his full attention and deluding himself that he can single handedly destroy the Coalition. Its a sad way to end a career where he has fought to show the LibDems are a party of integrity.

    Poor Jeremy Hunt now has to precide over an impossible decision, knowing whatever he does will look iffy and political.

  • Comment number 98.

    Whatever I think of Mr Cable in other contexts, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what he said regarding Mr Murdoch. Defending his country and its people against the unacceptable face of big business is his duty as a Minister. The disgraceful reaction of his colleagues in the cabinet shows the extent to which they are servants of these very rich empires rather than us, the people they are supposed to represent. The scandal sheet which sent an imposter to lure a Minister into indiscretions should be closed down (Yes, I do mean the closure of the Daily Telegraph and confiscation of all its assets) given the implications this action has for security and the effects it is likely to have on MPs telling the truth to their constituents.

  • Comment number 99.

    12. At 7:43pm on 21 Dec 2010, Rufus McDufus wrote:

    New Labour are showing their true colours by showing such blind support for their beloved News Corp.

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    New Labour? What are you on about?

  • Comment number 100.

    As an American I don't claim to know anything about the particulars of this British brouhaha, but anybody who "declares war" on Rupert Murdoch is OK in my book. You see, Murdoch is one of the right-wing billionaire sugar-daddies who is funding the so-called Tea Party in my country.

 

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