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Russia and Qatar win World Cup bids: Your reaction

15:47 UK time, Thursday, 2 December 2010

The acting chairman of the Football Association, Roger Burden, has withdrawn his application for the permanent job in protest at FIFA's treatment of England's World Cup bid. What is your reaction to the governing body's decision?

England missed out on the right to host the 2018 World Cup after Fifa chose Russia to stage the event for the first time.

Meanwhile, Qatar was chosen to host the 2022 World Cup after beating competition from Australia, the United States, Japan and South Korea.

Have Fifa made the right decision? What do you think of Roger Burden's decision? What are the implications for English football? What impact will the World Cup in Russia and Qatar have on them? Do you live in either country?

Thank you for your comments. This debate is now closed.

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  • Comment number 1.

    Well... Well Done Panorama and the Sunday Times. Thanks for all your help! Very dissapointing, and as we do best in this country. Negativity runs deep.

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  • Comment number 4.

    Good, perhaps now the Prime Minister will get back to the important things in life, like governing the country, and providing leadership during this period of appalling weather we're having.

  • Comment number 5.

    Both countries are important footballing nations with a proud history of footballing and such.

  • Comment number 6.

    Well done BBC, Well done collective British Media (even if some are owned by people from other countries).

    You have probably just cost the UK £3bn!

    Congratulations

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  • Comment number 8.

    Money talks!

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  • Comment number 10.

    Well, that is the way they voted - and that's okay.

    Time to buckle down to the three great events we are doing:

    • Prince Williams wedding,
    • The 2012 Olympics
    • The Queen's jubilee.

    That is probably plenty!

  • Comment number 11.

    As far as I am concerned it's very good news, I have had enough of football.
    Now let's concentrate on the Ashes!

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    I can understand Russia getting the 2018 as they have never hosted the event before, but how on earth could they have picked Qatar for the 2022 is beyond belief.

  • Comment number 15.

    Really enjoyed the sight of BBC reporters asking all and sundry why England didn't get the world cup. No one had the bottle to give them the obvious reason. Thanks BBC.

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  • Comment number 18.

    Quick lets get the sour grapes out.cHere's my effort -

    Huh! - well judging by the wikileaks reports regarding Russian corruption it looks like its gone to the right country.

    FIFA and the Russian government are made for each other.

    (Storms off in huff).

  • Comment number 19.

    Thank goodness we are spared the footie hype. FIFA and the 'mafia state'/kleptocracy are a natural love match.

  • Comment number 20.

    Well, the English media and the BBC have got the result they were so desperately fighting for - you must all be absolutely delighted.

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  • Comment number 22.

    As a football fan, but also someone who values honesty, I'm glad we didn't win in a poll where so many of the candidates are tainted with allegations of corruption. Panorama highlighted so many issues that seem to have been swept under the table by FIFA. I hope that as a nation we put all possible pressure on other nations, to join us and investigate them fully. Had we won, we probably could not have done so.

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  • Comment number 24.

    Headlines are: England miss out on world cup bid & UK suffers mass disruption due to snow.
    Government priorities wrong, obviously. Our prime minister was wasting time (and more of our money) cooing to Fifa rather than running his now ground to a halt country.

  • Comment number 25.

    If FIFA's wish is to take the World Cup to developing nations why then do they ask for Bids from all the countries. Let them adult enough to be honest about it and save the Developed countries Hundreds of Thousands of Pounds/Euros/Dollars in a time of Financial Crisis.

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  • Comment number 27.

    The English bid was guilty of trying too hard, it seems they were stepping on so many peoples’ toes that they became annoying. Smug confidence never looks good either, neither does an unhealthy obsession with money. No doubt the media will get blamed though.
    Well done and good luck to Russia and Qatar.

  • Comment number 28.

    Guessing at what may have been said in these posts I expect there will be little moderation before tomorrow. Perhaps the snow kept all the moderators at home.

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  • Comment number 30.

    Sorry that we wont have a World Cup here in my lifetime but also pleased that we won't have to pay for it as I suspect we will be still struggling to pay for the Olympics.

  • Comment number 31.

    We were assured only yesterday by the PM personally that the 'team' of Wilhelm..Beckham..and wait for it Himself was an extremely strong team.

    What happend?

    Shouldn't we have sent Tony Blair instead?

    He did get London the Olympics after all.

  • Comment number 32.

    The voting is just like the euro vision song contest, its all political when it comes to voting.

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  • Comment number 34.

    From a purely logistical 'ability to host' standpoint, England would have been the ideal choice.

    In terms of everything else, from the amount of money slushing around FIFA to the arrogance of the English game from a fairly netural 'casual' football watcher I'm not suprised we didn't get it. Nor overly disappointed. That said I'm not normally one for the 'oh but think of the money it will generate' arguments, but in terms of the economy it would have done far more than the blated mess that will be the overhyped 2012 London stageshow - so from that view it's a shame.

    Will BBC be repeating Panorama, I missed it earlier in the week ; )

  • Comment number 35.

    If we really were the first candidate knocked out, it really gives me worries of the calibre of the FIFA Executive Members. The England bid was definitely the best technically, and finacially!

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  • Comment number 37.

    I wholeheartedly agree, particularly with the choice of Qatar!

    The FIFA committee must have gotten rather confused with the English spoken by one of the members of the dream team. "We" implies plural as in "I was" and "We were".

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  • Comment number 39.

    Thank God. We have too much of this ball-kicking trivia in the UK.
    I am surprised David Cameron has time to waste on non-essential sidelines - he should be doing his job as PM.

    Maybe we can host something in the sciences instead - far more important!!

    In any case, we cannot afford to host any more sports stuff anyway - especially after the Olympic Games.

  • Comment number 40.

    I watched the results on the BBC news channel followed by the discussion with Linekar, Shearer etc. Why hasn't someone said - "the BBC should not have made or shown the panorama programme until after the vote! it's the BBC thats lost it for us". The Head of the BBC should be sacked for allowing the programme to go out. I hope they put out an apology every hour through the next week!

  • Comment number 41.

    Not sure why the BBC is pretending to be glum. Aren't you happy you ruined it with that documentary days before?

    Well, Vladimir Putin's snub was a good strategy after all, wasn't it?

  • Comment number 42.

    Surprise surprise,

    Thanks for nothing BBC. Perhaps you should put Panorama on a leash next time?

    Other ways Panorama could spend my tv license in the future include.

    1)A report into "how *insert country here* are wimps and wouldnt dare use their nuclear weapons against us" the next time we are on the brink of a nuclear holocaust.

    2)Or a refreshing look at a different piece of 'fresh news' days before the German Premier visits the UK by showing a documentary on "How Hitler may have been lying when he said he wouldnt invade anymore European countries".

    Thanks for nothing!

  • Comment number 43.

    BRILLIANT !!! We are an indebted country who cannot really afford to host this type of event at the moment and despite all this rubbish about the inward cash flow we would make a financial loss. Holland did the math and came up with that very conclusion. We are also spared the conditions imposed by FIFA that were exposed on the Panorama program and we have its author and the BBC to genuinely thank for that. We are also spared the undignified mass hysteria that we, in the UK, dollop onto every commercial and media enterprise - there would have been no escape.
    And we are spared saturation coverage of the most unedifying spectacle of overpaid juvenile behaviour we call football. A beautiful game it aint. I for one am delighted.

  • Comment number 44.

    This is not so unfair after all as we have already staged one back in 1966. Give others a chance.

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  • Comment number 47.

    England were never going to be in with a chance. Russia were always going to win, money does talk but more than that - we already see what a shambles the olympics shall be let alone host the world cup - we can even manage to keep snow covered roads clear !!!

    it is funny though seeing the faces of william/beckham/that tory prime minister bloke

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  • Comment number 49.

    I, personally, have no interest in football, got nothing against it and if it's your sport then I'm sorry for you. I am disappointed that the UK will not benefit from the commerce that is associated with such an event, we really could have done with that. But now it's over lets not lick our wounds, lets get stuck into delivering the Olympics and look forward, not back!

  • Comment number 50.

    Why have the BBC continued to state all day that the Russian bid encountered problems due to racism within their game, but no mention since Qatar's win that it's a country where homosexuality is illegal.

    Does the BBC think that it's made a fundamental mistake attacking FIFA, attacking Russia - and letting homophobic nations and football associations romp home with two bids.

    Congratulations BBC.

  • Comment number 51.

    Wonderful news.

    I can't wait for the Limpits to be over too. Waste of tax-payers money, it'd be better spent on a new American aeroplane to go on our very expensive French aircraft carriers.

    Over-paid, over-sexed, over-hyped. Yes, it's a professional Hooliganball player.

  • Comment number 52.

    See money does pay ????
    No, I am not unhappy about Russia, as that was decided long ago, Qatar?????
    Money money money money money money.
    That's FIFA Football is about money, and that has killed the game.
    You carry on paying whether on TV,at a match, Just pay, pay, and pay again.
    So obvious are the decisions that I wonder why so many people will pay?

  • Comment number 53.

    I am not surpised at the decision, following the British media's apparent "let's shoot ourselves in the foot" attitude in recent weeks. I also believe that Blatter is no friend of the U.K. and that he represents an organisation that seems to behave like a bunch of dinosaurs (e.g.the refusal to allow technology arguably robbed Ireland's and England's chances of progression in the competition).
    It's sad because I believe that we have better infrastructure/stadia than Russia, but good luck to them, they won the bid, and there's no reversing it!

  • Comment number 54.

    looks like Camerons bid for instant fame has back fired, why didnt he keep his nose out

  • Comment number 55.

    Those of who remember the 'joyous' Euro 96 also remember the sky-high ticket prices, the vast majority of games with stadiums 1/3 full and the marketing gorge-fest which accompanied it. Would it have been any different this time or exploitation on an even grander scale? Personally I'm glad it's gone elsewhere - at least the sports promotion parasites who prey off genuine supporters won't get an opportunity to fleece them at every turn.

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  • Comment number 57.

    Can I thank the BBC and Panorama for helping to ruin a long held dream of mine - to go and watch a World Cup game in my country in my lifetime. You should remember that WE pay your wages, WE pay for your programming and WE suffer when you put out programmes that can damage bids like this. I'm disgusted and you and The Sunday Times need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

  • Comment number 58.

    I feel a Stewards Enquiry at the BBC is required with Cameron, King Billy and Beckham asking the questions. The producers of Panorama and its third rate reporters need to be investigated! Then put in the stocks and pelted with anything that comes to hand. Talk about kicking your country in the family jewels. Disgraceful. The BBC can whistle for its licence money from me.

  • Comment number 59.

    10. At 4:00pm on 02 Dec 2010, Hastings wrote:
    Well, that is the way they voted - and that's okay.

    Time to buckle down to the three great events we are doing:

    • Prince Williams wedding,
    • The 2012 Olympics
    • The Queen's jubilee.

    That is probably plenty!

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  • Comment number 60.

    Fantastic, England humiliated. I see Cameron has scurried away from the ceremony. Can't handle bad news eh DAVE. After all the hours and days of BBC coverage on the World Cup, there now will follow a serious drought on the subject. I'm chuffed to bits.

  • Comment number 61.

    Oh, thats a shame. We will just have to spend our money on more boring stuff, like hospitals or schools perhaps?

  • Comment number 62.

    thank goodness for that - why should we tax payers fund yet again the huge expenditure involved (even though the financial rewards are supposed to be 'huge' - see the olympics) when many of us can't abide the 'sport'

    let the footie-mad brigade invade another country - don't forget you'll get sent to siberia if you don't conform

  • Comment number 63.

    Sepp Blatter hates English football and the Premiership and has the power to keep football in the dark ages, against every other authority in the world.
    Voted out in the first round? I am not surprised - we didn't stand a chance!

  • Comment number 64.

    A prize to the first person who claims it was all Gordon Brown's fault.

  • Comment number 65.

    As a person involved in youth football and have been involved with football at grass roots level for over 30 years, I would much prefer to have seen the money used on that - grassroots football rather than play a game within FIFA's somewhat politically skewed world.

    Please dont tell me a world cup in England would have done more than the money spent on the bid. It wouldn't. It would have made FIFA rich but not young English kids.

    Please FA - concentrate on grassroots football rather than pander to FIFA and UEFA.

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  • Comment number 67.

    Well it can only be held at a country a time, so there is no right and no wrong. Any country being chosen means all other applicants will 'miss out' on that occasion. And don't forget that England hosted the Euro less than 15 years ago. So no need to sulk! What I personally find pathetic is the amount of anti-russian propaganda that we were all exposed to over the last few days. Don't tell me that was a coincidence!

  • Comment number 68.

    One of the main reasons FIFA quotes for awarding World Cup competitions to developing and poorer nations is that it will somehow 'improve the lives of the poorer people in those countries'...what a complete load of rubbish, the only people that see any sort of life improvement are the already wealthy people in those countries.

    I actually find it rather sick that these beaurocrats think it's a good idea to parade incredibly wealthy sports stars in front of some of the poorest people and bring more wealth to the people who are already wealthy in those countries. Also, they're going to spend billions of dollars building new stadiums and infrastructure whilst the average citizen in those countries lives in real poverty...just sick and wrong.

  • Comment number 69.

    Excellent decision. At least we dont now have to fork out for this useless jamboree.

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  • Comment number 72.

    I think it's fair to say that Panorama AND the ridiculous scenes at St Andrews last night have both played a negative part in the result. To lose as favourites to win is one thing, but to come last is unforgivable. I doubt it affected Russia's victory - it was quite clear from Qatar winning the 2022 tournament that FIFA wanted something 'outside the box' (pardon the pun) and so it was always going to be difficult to convince them otherwise - but we'll never know now. It's a shame we can't just have seen an even playing field (again, excuse the pun), but I guess six years after the Olympics is probably a little too soon to host the World Cup. I'm sure England will try again next time and will hopefully be in a better position culturally and financially to host the tournament, although I doubt that somehow.

  • Comment number 73.

    So, Qatar is to build all these new air conditioned stadiums in the middle of the desert, which doesn't sound very green to me. Also, what are the Summer temperatures there? Won't the players suffer? Sounds crazy to me, but what do I know?

  • Comment number 74.

    Any nation winning the right to host it for the first time has to be a good thing, right?

    I do think the number of time zones in Russia might end up posing a problem in terms of scheduling though.

    Qatar is a bold choice considering their almost total lack of footballing heritage - although troublemakers aren't going to get away with ANYTHING there!

  • Comment number 75.

    I been saying a while that Russia would get it, but that's not my point.

    Our politicians lost us the World cup!!!!
    It wasn't the bidding it was OUR politicians past and present - why Shammy Cammy had to poke is nose in I don't know.

    Lets be honest, crowd control.... ring a bell? Our Police and law's are so pathetic can you really imagine policing the world cup like they do with the Students demo - it's that whats let us down and politicians ARE to blame.... and were are the bad guys gonna go Cammy?

    Imagine Students demonstrating during the world cup... it's as farcical as the students fees themselves... and Panorama remember that program?

  • Comment number 76.

    I think it's a marvelous decision! We don't need any more overpaid prima-donna's or their rabid 'fans' in this country, thank you.
    Calling football a 'beautiful game' is like calling Ghengis Khan a nice bloke! It hasn't been a beautiful game in 40 years or more, since money took over as it's prime motivator.

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    I'm not at all surprised ,I suspect it was all down to bribery and corruption.

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  • Comment number 80.

    Well, at least the UK media will be able to really investigate Fifa now. If there are any skeletons in the cupboards they're certain to come out now. Wonder if Wikileaks will put in more on Putin too!

  • Comment number 81.

    Perhaps all the positive hype, presuming it was "in the bag", got up people's noses. Learn from this and don't be so arrogant in future!

  • Comment number 82.

    I'm relieved, actually. For a start, we don't have the money for it as a country. Secondly, it means that football-haters like me don't have to put up with the travel chaos and general hysteria it would cause! This way all I have to do to avoid the World Cup is turn off the TV!

  • Comment number 83.

    Exposing corruption is more important than £3B

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  • Comment number 86.

    Well done to Russia and Qatar, both had excellent bids! However another let down for ENGLAND beliefs built on the British medias hype! It would be revolutionary if the media didn't hype England as much as they do. Examples - every world cup ("We have the best england team ever" and they under perform. Rooney fever - rooney underperforms. the list is endless!

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    Comment # 6 - Sir Raulph

    Actually with FIFA demanding tax free status (to validate a bid) it would have cost us around 3 to 5% of our GDP like previous Nations who have staged the World Cup.

    On that basis the BBC have done the tax payers a favour. Thank you indeed.

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  • Comment number 91.

    I know Fifa is trying to broaden its scope,influence and promote itself in relatively isolated regions in football terms like Russia and Qatar, But why give it to nations with extreme temperatures during most of the year not just the summer apart from other social problems?. It's a shame they learnt nothing from SA 2010.

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  • Comment number 93.

    Many thanks to the Sunday Times and Panorama your timing was excellent as always and we went out in the first round. I hope you are proud of yourselves. We will not get another chance for 16 years as 2022 will go to the southern hemishere.

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    Hooray! No world cup ballyhoo on our doorstep, no traffic jams, minimal coverage of this silly event. Says a lot for the persuasive powers of the UK team. Cameron does not seem to have much influence does he?

    Well, Russia is a bastion of honesty and good sportsmanship aint it.
    But the big laugh is that Qatar beat the mighty British effort.

    Now for those of us who actually love soccer it is a time to rejoice.

    They won't be using World cup scandals, hotels secrets of world cup players, childish spats among teams, to distract us all from the mess our politicians are making.

    Meanwhile, every town in this country has dozens and dozens of clubs with enthusiastic youngsters. Forget the overpaid big shots let us focus on these kids who actually love the game.

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    Hmmmmmmmmm......!!!!!

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