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Have your driving habits changed?

09:16 UK time, Wednesday, 7 April 2010

petrolprices.jpgThe average price of unleaded petrol has risen to a record 119.9p a litre. Have your driving habits changed due to the increased price of petrol?

One factor increasing petrol prices is the implementation of the extra duty of 1p a litre added on 1 April and a further 1p to be added in October.

The oil price is rising too. It reached a fresh 18-month high on Tuesday on growing hopes of a US-led global economic recovery. Motorists are already suffering from a weak pound, which has pushed up the price of oil in that currency, because it is priced in US dollars.

Do you think petrol is too expensive? Is petrol in your area more expensive than the 119.9p a litre average price? Have your driving habits changed as a result?

Photo taken by Martin Newham on 3 April, Isle of Wight.

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Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    Petrol prices are outrageously high for three reasons:- 1) The greed of the oil companies, 2) The greed of the Government & 3) The stupid belief of this Government that if petrol is expensive then I will use my car less and save the planet.

    If I drive less I dont work, if I dont work I cant pay my mortgage, if I cant pay my mortgage I wont have a house! But will this Government help me when their vision of Communism comes true, I doubt it. They will be too busy claiming to have saved the planet because there is one less car on the road in this country.

  • Comment number 2.

    yes we drive a lot less, after all its what the concerned government/s want us to do itsnt it?

    Starting cycling to work again next week and will probably not buy a new car ever again... hows that going to help the economy?

    Kids are getting a job reclaiming plastics at the local tip next week....

  • Comment number 3.

    We are being crushed by this Government who take any opportunity to fleece us with taxes, how can we drive if we are an average wage earner we have to think twice about going anywhere that is deemed pleasure if we have to use our cars for travelling to work as some do, to put more tax on an already heavily taxed comodity stinks of desperation to get money from us by any means, pity the poor bankers they can cry all the way to the bank with their bonuses, petrol has now for the average wage earner become a luxury we can ill afford and if there was justice in this world we would see a decrease in the price for what we have put up with between the bankers and MP's we are all between a rock and a hard place.

  • Comment number 4.

    Infact 2.35 p a ltr was added on the first.

    1p extra duty from the budget
    1p due to the budget also removed the 1p rebate for adding 15% bio fuel to each ltr.
    and .35p VAT on the 2p.


    The chanclor didnt tell anyone he was removing the bio fuel rebate, that was hidden in the budgets small print.

  • Comment number 5.

    Fuel prices are definitely too high! The chancellor said the prices were going up a little but I believe they are due to go up another 13p or so in the near future?!

    How are the average drivers supposed to afford to put fuel in? It's not as if there is a good alternative. I live 5 miles away from my daughters schools and then another 10 miles from work. There is a very expensive bus for my daughters, seeing as I am not on income support in which case it would be free, and no bus to where I work. It's not as though anyone's wages go up to cover these huge hikes.

    Also my husband and I are going to London soon for a day trip, we thought we would save our car by going by train but that would cost £46 for the two of us. Public transport is NOT an alternative option.

    It is just the fuel firms being completely greedy! I go to the cheapest, which is usually my local supermarket but they always seem to put up their prices soon after the other firms, why can't they keep prices down and then everyone would go to them and we would all be better able to afford to drive!

  • Comment number 6.

    I would like to use the busses but as one company has the franchise in kent and we live out of town the cheepest return bus fare is a pre purchased single day kent rover ticket which is 6.40.

    As well over 90% of my car journies are under 10 miles i either ride a push bike or use the car as it cheeper than the busses.

    My son have been offered a summer job in Sevenoaks. It pays 6.99 an hour for 35hours a week. We worked out the cost of going by bus and then train. Weekly sesion ticket and book of bus tickets would and 2pounds a day lunch money would leave him with under a fiver for a weeks work!

  • Comment number 7.

    "We have been scamed by big business {oil companys} and Nu-Labour again. How can you drive any less? Are we paying the Highest per lite in Europe? This is not the way to sell any cars or vans? Maybe this is Nu-labour green policys, make every one scrap they car and walk?

  • Comment number 8.

    Petrol prices should either be reduced or public transport prices should be lowered and made more frequent and reliable.

    My driving habits have not changed due to the petrol price increase for the simple reason that I only use my car when I have to anyway and public transport is not a feasible alternative. I currently car pool to work with my partner. It costs around £30 each a month in petrol. If we got the train we would pay around £175 each! Not only that, but public transport is very limited. We would still need the car in the weekends to visit my sister (who lies in a rural location miles and miles from a train station and with very infrequent buses from the nearest town) and to get to places at the weekends (especially on Sundays) not served by public transport, of which there are quite a few, especially if you like the great outdoors.

    I'm in my late 20s but I grew up in a non driving household and learnt to drive only a few years ago, so am used to not having a car, and don't rely on it for little journeys that could be walked. I love walking and walk everywhere I can. I also love the idea of being more green and getting public transport more. But it's just not feasible, reliable or cost effective.

    People can't always live close to where they work. People need to get to work, and the high cost of all forms of travel is an indiscriminate tax on people getting to work, being mobile and wanting to get out and about.

  • Comment number 9.

    No my driving habits havent changed...my lifestyle has.

    I emmigrated away from the UK due to many reasons, tax being one of them.


    The government keep on blaming the oil companies and the price of oil for the increases in fuel prices. I now live in Gibraltar which is a British territory and pay 85p per litre for unleaded.

    This is a perfect example of the government lying about why the prices are so expensive. They could reduce the cost of UK fuel to the same as it is here - but they choose not to because they like getting all the extra tax and blaming it on other people!

  • Comment number 10.

    A high petrol price is the fairest way of charging for road use, and it's cheap to collect the tax. Much better than congestion charges or road tolls. I hope the price will continue to increase, then maybe we will see less traffic about. It's time people thought twice before getting the car out, and retailers should be encouraged to use local suppliers.

  • Comment number 11.

    I am fortunate to have a car provided by the Motability Scheme, but now that prices have gone up so much I cannot afford to go anywhere in it.
    I cant even afford the £10 in petrol to visit my Mum 30 miles away in Leeds. (It used to cost me £5 round trip)
    I may as well have a great big lump of metal sat on the road outside, as it never goes anywhere.

  • Comment number 12.

    MRs DG wrote
    "Also my husband and I are going to London soon for a day trip, we thought we would save our car by going by train but that would cost £46 for the two of us. Public transport is NOT an alternative option."

    hear hear!

    I got the train from euston to manchester and aside from the expense, I had the embarrassment of ejecting someone from our reserved seats and seeing people sat on the floor between the cariages! how can that be safe??

    What next, riding on the roof?

    Transport policy in this country is a shambles, all this increased fule cost is passed on to companies and customers, adding to our financial worries.

    I for one dont think any of the parties have an answer to the problems we are facing.


  • Comment number 13.

    No, and hardly anyone I know has changed their habits. People still drive their children to school in the morning, despite the cost and knowing it would be beter (on dry days at least) to walk them there. And then they wonder why they hit 40 and are fat.

    This is just a taste of what's to come- petrol prices will contine to rise faster and faster as demand aroudn the world increases.

    So much of the UK and its cities are now designed around cars that the country will really struggle when petrol hits £3 a litre in a few years time...

  • Comment number 14.

    Icewombat,

    Why not see if someone can car share or by a moped?

  • Comment number 15.

    It's not just fuel - the cost of living is crushing for many people.

    And I wish I could express my frustration at hearing people saying "think of the environment". I would love not to have to travel or do so many things perceived as bad for the environment but I have a mortgage to pay and a family to consider. We can't all opt out of being productive.

    The selfishness and self-righteousness of so many involved in these debates is bewildering.

  • Comment number 16.

    I bought a newer more economical car prior to the rise so my bill is about the same. Did I use the scrappage scheme, no way it's a con. The new price cars were increased along with used cars prior to the deal. I traded my 14 year old 55mpg diesel rover for £250 and the car I purchesed was still cheaper than a scrappage deal. Most of the cars traded as scrap are finding their way back on the roads anyway, and most of the new cars purchased are made in Korea, not even the spares are made here. Good deal Gordon, traded jobs and lies again.

  • Comment number 17.

    I still love driving, and ill do it anyway regardless of the price of diesel and fuel. Its inflation, its the prices set by the government, so live with it. I dont moan about it. I still burn oil at a high rate, and since i honestly believe that global warming is a mythical pile of rubbish, i dont really care about:
    A) Pollution
    B) Saving the world
    C) other peoples moans and groans about the price petrol
    D) greenpeace
    E) G20 protestors
    F) Anything that anyone else has to say on the subject
    E)

  • Comment number 18.

    It's all very well people saying high fuel prices will get cars off the road; but who will be hit most - the poor and those on low incomes.

    The better off probably won't even bat an eyelid at the price rises; moreover they'll welcome it as a means of clearing the roads of the riff-raff, thus making their journeys far easier.

    In any case, taking cars off the road in the UK won't save the planet at all, especially with the new middle classes in China & India swapping their trusted bicycle for the car. Oh the irony!

  • Comment number 19.

    Its all stick and no carrot and Labour's only solution - a bigger stick

    Why use public transport at all? It is still quicker, cheaper, more comfortable to take the car. Buses are a joke - infrequent and few convenient routes and trains are WAY too expensive. It is scandalous that the railway companies are doing away with cheap returns... or are restricting the times of travel to make them useless.

    I live in a large-ish town - a few yeasrs ago my car was being repaired and I found that could not get a direct bus to a neigbouring town. Journey times with a change are crazy (a 40 minute bus ride followed by a 50 minute bus ride to do just 7 or 8 miles as the crow flies). I can do the journey by car in well under 30 mins in commuter traffic.

    Where is the incenive to drive less?

  • Comment number 20.

    I tend to freewheel down hills more than I used to

  • Comment number 21.

    typicallistener: you couldn't be more wrong. Rising fuel prices only has a very marginal effect on reducing traffic. Why? Because for many people who need to travel to work the car is the only option. Alternative modes only have the potential to take a very small proportion of traffic from the roads, as does linking trips and so on.

    Another idea is to encourage people to live closer to work, but unfortunately 50 or so years of post war planning has separated us from our workplaces. The same has happened with shopping, leisure and so on. Where opportunities do exist to live in walking diatances to these places, they are either unaffordable (London anyone?) or badly need regeneration to provide decent living accommodation.

    So the problem with traffic has a lot to do with things other than the price at the pump. Unfotunately the Government and environmentalists do not see it this way. As fuel gets more expensive we'll simply pay more because we have to - simple as that whether we drive or when we buy goods in the shops.

    And before we go down the 'source local' route, think for a minute where your PC came from and how it arrived on your desk.

  • Comment number 22.

    Do you ever feel that as a tax-payer you are like a one-armed bandit that pays out every time the Government gleefully pulls the handle?

  • Comment number 23.

    If Gordon and his highway robbers would stop giving UK taxpayers money away abroad then our petrol and our taxes would not be so high.

    Everyone knows that we just give approx £9 Billon a year in so called aid but how much more do we give in overseas development grants etc?, Also the EU gives masses of money away and since we pay Billions upon Billions into the EU we are effectively stumping up twice.

    We have been doing this for the last 60 years and nothing has changed in these countries that are all take, take, take.

    Its time to stop all of our money going over seas until this country is sorted out and taxes for the normal person in the street are at an acceptable level because even I am now thinking I might as well sit on benefits because I would be no worse off.

    Enough is Enough, no more UK taxpayers money to be given away.

  • Comment number 24.

    At # 10 typicallistener

    How are higher fuel prices fair? Should only the rich be allowed to drive to work on the public roads? With the astronomical price of public transport, would you rather average earners just stay at home? Road tax already covers my use of the roads, I don't see why I should get a double whamee with increased fuel prices. Fair enough if city centres are restricted, as long as a workable park and ride is put in place.

    I agree there should be more local produce from supermarkets. However at the moment there are so many places that exist are geared towards owning a car (big supermarkets that are cheaper than the in town 'convenience' stores), garden centres, open air museums, country houses open the public, leisure and walking), why should only the well off be able to use them and enjoy what our country has to offer? Unless you're used to living without a car, I think it's hard to fathom what you're missing out on when you're not mobile.

  • Comment number 25.

    I would like petrol to be dispensed be the gallon again......the price would frighten most people. No wonder the government were so quick to change to litres. The original price didn't sound as bad. Now we are getting to the silly stage, they are behaving like a bully in the playground. Taking even the pennies from peoples pockets - the silver and notes are long gone

  • Comment number 26.

    Shame the car manufacturers didn't come up with all these new economy models years ago. Why ? Because fuel was cheap and they built fuel guzzling sports cars, 4x4's and the Hummer. Perhaps if we had invested in efficient engines or battery technology when fuel was cheap, but we don't do that anymore. We have things like PFI agreements to build shiny new schools and hospitals that end up costing us 15 times their original construction cost over 25 years so that the debt doesn't show up on the books. That is why your fuel cost so much.

  • Comment number 27.

    "A high petrol price is the fairest way of charging for road use, and it's cheap to collect the tax. Much better than congestion charges or road tolls. I hope the price will continue to increase, then maybe we will see less traffic about. It's time people thought twice before getting the car out, and retailers should be encouraged to use local suppliers"

    I think you need to be more realistic. Many people live in rural areas without public transport or they need to drive to work. My nearest train station is 5 miles away and there are no direct buses. In fact the last bus is at 8pm during the week! It's a ten minute journey in the car to my train station. Taking the bus would mean two buses resulting in a journey time of over an hour and costing nearly £6! Until public transport is affordable or has sensible routes, how on earth do I get to the train station? Cycling is not an option because so many bicycles get stolen from train stations and you can't take them on peak services to London. Until this government comes up with a viable alternative, we have no option but to carry on using cars. It's time to elect a new government and see if they can do any better than our present one which is useless.

  • Comment number 28.

    No - my driving habits have not changed in the slightest.

    I drive where and when I need to get somewhere that is too far to walk and/or not served by public transport. I enjoy driving as an exercise of skill, but don't take my car out for pleasure. As I enjoy the 'skill' side of driving, I drive in an economical manner, as a side-effect of aiming for smoothness and this strange tendency of actually obeying speed limits.

    As it happens, currently my husband goes to work by train and bus, but the advantages of lack of stress (he's a maths teacher so has enough of that when he gets there!) and the improvement in his disabled ankle are at least as important as the £20 a week saving!

  • Comment number 29.

    I nearly had a heart attack yesterday in Glasgow when, nozzle in hand, I glanced up at the pump and saw a price of 120.9p per litre! How can our government justify these continuous price hikes on fuel? They claim it is to save the planet, but we all really know that the 75% tax take on every litre will just be wasted on things like MP's salaries/expenses, income support for the work shy and more runways at Heathrow.

    Does the government not understand that every time they add another penny (or indeed 2.35p as Icewombat correctly identifies), the oil companies see this as an opportunity to hide their own price rises and they both end up pointing the fingers at each other.

    The end result is that we the battered British workers are being fleeced once again and can do nothing about it. Our hard-earned money just goes straight into the pockets of the bone idle greedy or the wealthy old-boy establishment.

    The only solution is to move abroad or become a banker as they are the few who can afford to use a car these days.

  • Comment number 30.

    1. Fuel is too expensive and the tax from it should be invested in building more roads
    2. Doesnt appear to be higher in my area than the average
    3. I havent changed my driving habits - my office is still about 23 miles from where my live and public transport links are slow and not direct so wont take me at least twice as long. Supermarkets are still easier with a car.

  • Comment number 31.

    To answer your question "No" they have not changed.

    I drive to work (70 miles), the train would take double the time and I would not get to work on time. So how do I view these rises?

    My monthly spend on fuel is now over £420 per month. I could get another Job closer, but I work in Shopping Centre Management and there are not many vacancies in this line of work. Work is hard to come by these days and I have to stick with what I have, at least for the time being. I would gladly use the train, and relax on my way to work but that option simply does not exist and I work in London?????

    To cross London in public transport in the rush hour can take two hours or more…..Get that sorted before you do anything else.

  • Comment number 32.

    I cannot drive any less, all my journeys are essential for work. I have however reduced my average speed and use cruise control, both of which considerably lessen fuel consumption. A 180 mile motorway journey at 65mph returned 70mpg yesterday.

    Fuel tax is grossly unfair, not even luxury items carry an overall tax burden of around 70%. Neither is it anything to do with the environment, it is tax pure and simple.

  • Comment number 33.

    I've tried public transport for my commute. The pricing is similar but it takes twice as long to do the same journey door to door. The only difference higher fuel costs make to my driving style is that I wince a bit more every time I fill the tank. Living in a rural area where public transport is patchy at best people are more dependent on their cars.

  • Comment number 34.

    Yes indeed - where ever it is I'm going, I have to go via a cashpoint first...

  • Comment number 35.

    Cars are both a necessity and a hobby for me. The fact that our government levies exorbitant petrol tax and congestion charges; and irritation stemming from the fact oil is priced is US currency rather than local ones, are things truly to moan about. The fact cars are a personal hobby too (albeit an expensive one nowadays), by contrast, compels me to not to complain.
    But driving habits won't be the only thing to be affected by petrol prices. The cost of food, goods, travel and manufacturing will be affected too. Those are things definitely things to moan and worry about too.


  • Comment number 36.

    The high cost of petrol, or rather the exorbitant level of taxation that forms the bulk of the high cost of petrol, has been imposed on people who in many instances have modest, really modest, incomes by people on generous expenses who never have to fill a personal tank of petrol or diesel out of their own pockets in their daily lives. They have absolutely no idea of the added pressure this is putting on ordinary people. My driving behaviour has certainly changed, in that I use the car a lot less and avoid the outings that we used to take, which in turn impacts on the restaurants, hotels and tourist attractions that we used to visit, many of which are already struggling to stay in business and thereby employ people. As usual, a blunt instrument applied to an existing bruise.

  • Comment number 37.

    This is an excellent example of why the most important issue for Britain is energy independence. We may gripe about the domestic tax payable on petrol but it's really not an issue because the government would just have to tax something else. Besides this tax is recirculated into our economy .... but its the cost of the oil in the first place that results in us shelling out money to other nations. Let's face it, we have no bargaining power over oil .... because the cartels will just shut us off ... like flicking a switch... like flicking a fly off a table top. We will always be nothing ... but weak sniveling "pee hees" ... on the world stage with "nothing to say" .... no clout whatsoever .... unless we were independent for energy ... then we could say stuff the oil... and gas etc.... and the UK would be transformed into a powerful nation. So the top policy of the next government should be BRITISH OWNED energy independence .....

  • Comment number 38.

    I have only (and have always) driven essential journeys. Driving still works out cheaper than the bus in my area. The fuel rise is passed straight on to the passengers just like the dramatic fare rise when the elderly free-pass subsidary started. They now want to charge me almost twice a month of what a tank of petrol costs me. Putting the prices up won't change my habits - lowering them might.

    I drive no more or less than I have to for work / grocery shopping / VFR

    The only difference I have seen is the rise in my clubcard / nectar card points (and the hit on my bank account).

  • Comment number 39.

    My dashboard display is always set at Average mpg and I try my hardest to keep it above 40mpg at all times. It really does stop you putting your foot down for the sake of getting there a few minutes earlier.

  • Comment number 40.

    It's still cheaper to go by car than by bus or train... Never mind the convenience factor.

    The problem is that fuel prices are going to continue to rise, and the UK is designed such that car usage is almost essential.

    We need to have massive investment in public transport infrastructure - both rail & buses.

    We DON'T need things like high-speed rail links to help a few, but more cheap parking at stations, better timetable planning, reopening local branch lines and more bus routes (or allow/encourage local transport cooperatives). The problem with the UK's public transport is not that it takes a while to get from one city to another, but that people can't get from outlying towns & villages to the cities at all.

  • Comment number 41.

    oil prices are low so there is no reason for petrol prices to be the same price as they were when oil was twice as expensive!

    I bet the price of petrol at the pumps isn't anything like £1.20 a litre across europe.

    We are being fleeced. When will the government enact legislation kurbing price rises at the pumps?

    Additionally what idiot thought it was a good idea to put extra duty on petrol when prices are thorugh the roof and we are in a recession?

  • Comment number 42.

    "It is just the fuel firms being completely greedy!"

    Change the words 'fuel firms' to 'government' and you'll be closer to the truth. Since over 70% of the price you pay at the pump is tax, it's a bit rich blaming the companies delivering the fuel.

    Personally I hardly use my car. I keep it because even taking insurance and tax into account, it is still cheaper for long journeys than public transport...and a lot more convenient.

  • Comment number 43.

    Unfortunately the rise in retail parks and large supermarkets have made owning a car a necessity. As with all necessities the Government will screw the populace for every fraction of a penny they can get.

  • Comment number 44.

    #10 Atypicallistener

    What is it with people like you? You claim to want to end traffic congestion but will not have the guts to say what the REAL cause of it is.

    We all know the truth, the problem with congestion is 100% caused by people taking there children to school.

    I work in a school during the holidays and i can tell you in the two cities i drive through to get to work this week it has been like a ghost town. No traffic at all.

    This is proof that we only have congestion when kids are at school. Ergo thats the problem.

    So we need to do two things:-

    1. Provide bus transport for every school child in britian.

    2. Criminally prosecute any parents caught driving their kids to school unless it is extenuating proveable circumstances.

    Do that and we will have no more congestion and the rest of us can continue going about our lawful business without the jams.

  • Comment number 45.

    8. lovelyonthewater

    - - - - -

    Totally agree! I'm in a very similar situation, drive only when I need to and would rather walk to work if I could afford to live closer to it.

    Public transport in my area works out to £60 MORE a month than my car (including fuel, MOT, insurance and an annual parking permit costs - worked out over 12 months) so nearly a whole months wage over the year. Not only that but the conditions on our buses are dreadful. All piled/squashed on to get to work - and I'm paying more for the pleasure.

    My costs are kept as low as possible by only driving essential journeys (work, visiting family / doing my grocery shopping after work so half the journey is already made etc) and by car sharing whenever our hours are the same.

    The main difference is that I stay home/in my area at weekends rather than drive somewhere new or different for a day out.

  • Comment number 46.

    A back-of-an-envelope calculation of fuel duty and VAT on a litre of diesel for my car - based on September 2009 rates (recently increased by Labour yet again) - shows the extent of government greed now costing us all so dearly. Locally, diesel presently sells at approximately £1.28 per litre at the pump.

    Broken down, this represents a VAT content of £0.3396p, a Fuel Duty content of £0.5619p, and a basic cost+profit of £0.3875p for the petroleum companies concerned.

    So the fuel is prospected, drilled for, pumped out of the ground, stored in tanks, then transported thousands of miles by sea to a refinery, converted into petrol, diesel (plus plastics polymers and myriads of other compounds required by modern technology – all of which are collected and return further profit to the petroleum industry giants), returned to storage then transported by sea and/or vehicular tanker to my local filling station – and all for a paltry 39 pence a litre on the forecourt.

    I can only guess at how much longer our nation’s privately-operated filling stations will survive these punitive taxes and remain in business. Another retailing enterprise would help support those with the space to expand their incomes, but those with stand-alone pumps must surely go to the wall? Even giant motorway fuel outlets - with their exorbitant prices for captive motorists - must soon be taxed out of viable business.

    Our road delivery companies will have to visit Europe to fuel their trucks – let alone fight off the ever increasing competition by multiple tanked, cheaply fuelled lorries from the EC. Our farmers, in communities of no profitable interest to the multinational petroleum companies, will soon be making their own bio-diesel, manufacturing methane for fuel - or cease to exist.

    Fuel is not the only essential product or service being taxed out of existence. It’s about time that this spiral of punitive taxation affecting us all was cut to the bone.


  • Comment number 47.

    For those who say fuel tax is a fair form of taxation because the more expensive and powerful the car the more fuel you use, let me explain a couple of facts.

    Brand new even luxury cars use considerably less fuel today then they did even 5 years ago.

    ie: i drive a Seat Leon Cupra 1.8 turbo. Its was made in 2003 and produces 180bhp 210grams of co2 per kilometre and does around 30mpg.

    Now take a look at the new renault megane RS250. It is a 2 litre turbo producing 250bhp (a whopping 70bhp more than my car) and yet produces 180 grams of co2 per kilometre and does around 34mpg.

    Even the latest bmw m3 does 25mpg and its a 400bhp 4 litre v8! So what i am saying is if fuel prices go up those who have the least money in society pay the most. Those who can afford new cars pay the least.

    So its a direct tax on the poor. Not to mention because of freight everything like food, clothes etc go up in price too.

  • Comment number 48.

    "Have Your driving habits changed"? NO! WHY? Because we have ALWAYS been careful and aware of petrol prices!

    Our grown-up highly qualified kids work in the NHS and, due to shift work, have to travel to and from work by car as public transport is either unavailable or unsafe?

    Plus, highly skilled NHS staff don't clock in or out and are often on standby and don't get home when they need to?

    There is one simple and money-saving aspect of working nights for junior doctors and nurses who can't afford, but pay in full all day on-site parking is: 9-5 car parking on hospital sites are blocked and full of free parking for hospital administrators and pen pushers and paper movers via money hungry consultants?

  • Comment number 49.

    Gosh, and I thought it was expensive over here in the USA. At ONLY $3.03 per gallon it's very cheap compared to the UK. I'd better stop moaning!!

  • Comment number 50.

    My brother decided to leave his car at home and use the bus then train to get to work.
    He was completely shocked when he found out travelling the 50 miles to work via bus and train cost a heck of a lot more than it would if he travelled by car.
    So now he uses his car to travel to work............


    And I`ll bet he`s not the only one.

  • Comment number 51.

    It was certainly one of the many factors that changed where I live. I now live in Canada where we are currently just over a dollar a litre. As for driving habits - when in the UK I drove a Saab 93 TiD. Used to get about 500 miles out of a tank, then with a steady easing off the right peddle - I still never drove below the speed limit but just changed the agression on the peddle and made good use of the cruise control. This alone got me 650 miles regularly and even cracked the 700 (702 to be exact between fillups)....and I used the Air con whenever it was needed.


  • Comment number 52.

    I think you'll find that people are having to use their cars more in order to get to work, so they can afford their petrol! I know, it's a vicious circle.

  • Comment number 53.

    To be honest, I think fuel prices should be even higher. The sheer amount of people driving, mostly casual and unnecessarily, is ridiculously high.

    There should be a tax incentive for people who are able to limit their driving habits. Or simply, add more tax to vehicle fuel - which can be claimed back if your driving is part of your livelihood.

    Pollution is higher than ever, and the exposure to these fumes is unavoidable. The fumes and pollution are shortening peoples lives and causing all sorts of diseases - not to mention the 1.2 million people killed each year on the world's roads - which figure excludes serious injuries.

    People need to stop and realise that the one-car-per-person mentality will just not work and they need start to using their legs and public transport before it's too late.

  • Comment number 54.

    I have to drive to work. Using the public transport system would add an extra four hours to my working day. Quite something for a 20 min journey by car.

    I now drive at 50mph on the duel carriage way and have to put up with other ignorant drivers flashing their lights at me to go faster or giving me dirty looks when they overtake. However, at this speed I can get up 200 miles on half a tank of fuel which costs approx £25 and will see me through two weeks if I don't do any extra journeys. I REFUSE to pay more than this if possible as I have no desire to be putting more of my hard-earned cash in GB's tax pocket.

    The down side however is that my husband & I used to travel to different towns & cities, for a wee visit, every other weekend and can no longer afford to do so. I'm sure our little bit of tourism would not be missed but collectively, across the UK, there are many other people now staying at home and home-tourism will suffer as a result.

    Fuel tax has a much bigger knock-on effect than many people actually realise. It's not just the motorist who suffers. Ask any shop-keeper, in any town that relies on the tourist trade.....

  • Comment number 55.

    South Africa does not have an efficient public transport and driving is my only choice. In Europe, where I also work, public transport is cheap, reliable and available and I hardly use a car.

  • Comment number 56.

    Have petrol prices changed your driving habits"?

    OMG! If you are a 24/7 shift worker WHO can't afford to buy or even rent close to your hospital, station etc., you totally rely on your car to get you to work on time for the public - plus you need your car to get home safely when public transport doesn't run - or is unsafe to travel on?:

    1) you volunteer for nights. As an NHS nurse you don't get paid more - you only hope not to be charged for parking when free-parking pen pushers and administrators who fill all parking around hospitals 9-4pm are at home and asleep?

    2) If you are a paramedic, firefighter, police officer and all 24/7 emergency services, you are completely stuffed or at risk of losing your job without a car to get you to work on-time well before for your shift for 'handover'?

  • Comment number 57.

    John De Haura wrote:
    To be honest, I think fuel prices should be even higher. The sheer amount of people driving, mostly casual and unnecessarily, is ridiculously high.

    There should be a tax incentive for people who are able to limit their driving habits. Or simply, add more tax to vehicle fuel - which can be claimed back if your driving is part of your livelihood.

    Pollution is higher than ever, and the exposure to these fumes is unavoidable. The fumes and pollution are shortening peoples lives and causing all sorts of diseases - not to mention the 1.2 million people killed each year on the world's roads - which figure excludes serious injuries.

    People need to stop and realise that the one-car-per-person mentality will just not work and they need start to using their legs and public transport before it's too late.

    To Mr De Haura. Are you living on another planet?! Think outside the box. Public transport is useless where we live. Come to Kent and I am sure you will quickly change your mind! My husband car shares to his place of work which is 31 miles away. To get to work by public transport would cost him twice as much and take twice as long. I work in the City and my annual train ticket costs £2640. Believe me, if I could take a bus to the station I would but this service does not exist. If I could drive to London I would however, traffic is horrendous and then you have to add on the cost of the congestion charge at £8 a day.

  • Comment number 58.

    > #53: To be honest, I think fuel prices should be even
    > higher. The sheer amount of people driving, mostly casual
    > and unnecessarily, is ridiculously high.

    How considerate of you. My employer relocated to a more distant office. On the days that I do have to be in the office I have a choice between driving a 70 mile round trip in a total time behind the wheel of an hour and three quarters, or a public transport journey at a cost of £35 AND a total journey time of almost 4 hours excluding time taken to get to and from the station.

    Some choice eh! And not one of MY making. In the current climate a change of job is NOT an option.

  • Comment number 59.

    "Driving Habits" is part if this HYS question?

    Why would any Government Minister, or politician who impose taxes on people going to work and getting home care about the cost of petrol when all these politicians claim all of this cost on tax-free allowances, including 1st Class Rail Travel?

    Should the question of cost of of petrol, car tax, car insurance, getting to work and home again be directed at Government and politicians?

    NO, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, simply because they have no idea what it costs for ordinary people just to get to work 24/7: when public transport is unsafe and unreliable?
    1) power workers
    2) water and sewage workers
    3) nurses
    4) firefighters
    5) refuse workers
    6) doctors
    7) cleaners
    8) underground workers
    9) House of Parliament security
    10)police officers
    11)Armed Forces families' dismal accommodation
    12)Any other crucial 24/7 front-line services to the public missed - please contribute?

  • Comment number 60.

    I support increase in petrol tax.
    This is the best way to fight congestion on the road and it is good for the environment.

  • Comment number 61.

    Purely answering the issue of price affecting driving habits, which was the question, I think the answer is yes and no. For a variety if reasons my highest mileage is on a Saturday and I have noticed that when fuel prices have a sharp increase the roads seem a less congested which means I use less fuel which partially counters the increase. It probably encourages me to drive a shade slower but to be honest given the cost of buying and maintaining the car saving a penny or less a mile is not going to be a massive motivator. What I do assume though is that roads are quieter on Saturdays because more discretionary journeys are made at a weekend and those are the ones that people reduce to save on petrol.

    Where fuel price may influence is long term. I changed from petrol to diesel when I bought my last car and that was partially influenced by the increasing cost of fuel. Similarly when I make decisions about changing job or moving house the cost of travelling is a factor. If I believe fuel costs will increase I am more likely to live near to where I work.

    However changing cars, jobs and houses are long term decisions so I would expect any influence fuel prices have on usage to be longer term and probably take 2-3 years to really work through.

    On the issue of road haulage it is fair to say that to some extent fuel prices aren't important as long as everybody pays the same. Fuel is one element in the cost of transport and will affect vehicles choice, loading and routing. End cost to users will of course increase but may also encourage changes in demand patterns thereby limiting the overall increase.

  • Comment number 62.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 63.

    > Do you think petrol is too expensive? - Yes it is. Check out the prices in the rest of the world. Except for Scandinavian countries, petrol price is so very high in this country.

    > Is petrol in your area more expensive than the 119.46p a litre average price? It is 119p a litre in Chesham, Buckinghamshire.

    > Have your driving habits changed as a result? Hardly. Although our town is connected by Tube and my work place is exactly one station away, I will have to shell out £65 for the Oyster card. If I travel by car, it is 8 miles (to and fro). With my car running for 8 miles a litre, I spend 22 litres for 22 working days a month. I would gladly take the train, if it is cheaper (£65 is way too expensive for the distance we travel) or if the frequency of the bus transport is adequate.

    Unless public transport is improved like anything, more and more people are going to continue this way.

  • Comment number 64.

    I couldn't give a stuff about other people on the roads or the price. All other drivers are arrogant, incompetent middle lane hoggers. Why is it that cars with 'baby on board' drive the worse? I'm practising my driving skills for when "dooms day" arrives and we all run out of oil; I then get to play out my mad-max fantasies on the open road. Hell yeah!

    To be serious for a moment, the price hasn't changed my driving habits at all even on the last fill-up @ £1.28 a litre for octane 97. My cars costs me a lot and I want to enjoy it no matter what the cost... I drive hard and fast. My driving is probably classed as aggressive, but all I want to do is get to my destination as quick as possible and as efficiently getting passed all bad and slow drivers.

    It'll have to be £5 a litre before I even think in giving up my car!

  • Comment number 65.

    "# 1. At 12:49pm on 07 Apr 2010, pzero wrote:
    Petrol prices are outrageously high for three reasons:- 1) The greed of the oil companies, 2) The greed of the Government & 3) The stupid belief of this Government that if petrol is expensive then I will use my car less and save the planet."

    I think you'll find a 30% devaluation in the value of Sterling and massive increased demand from China and India have something to do with it too. post #41 "bigsammyb wrote:
    oil prices are low so there is no reason for petrol prices to be the same price as they were when oil was twice as expensive!" is equally missing the point: Oil is traded in dollars. A few years ago it was $2 to £1 so a $100 barrel of oil cost us £50. Now it is $1.40 to £1 so the same $100 barrel is costing us £71. Because of currency fluctuations the same oil at the same price is now costing us nearly 40% more.

  • Comment number 66.

    I live 40 milies away from where I work, so I have four choices: -
    1 - Move closer to work. Yeah like I can afford to. Houses prices are about £135k move expensive up there.
    2 - Put up with the ever increasing costs of getting to and from work by car.
    3 - Use public transport. lol! What public transport. I'd have to get a bus to the train station, which is impossible because the first bus leases 15 minutes after I start work! Even so, I'd be looking at a door to door travel time of two hours compared to 50 minutes by car.
    4 - Quit work and let the state look after my needs.

    Given that option 4 is looking more attractive each day, I may just vote Labour at the coming election.

  • Comment number 67.

    As the HIGHEST vehicle fuel prices within the EU there are serious commercial issues for British transport companies?

    1) Food and other imports VIA EU entering UK
    to UK are basically 'subsidised' by low EU taxes on ALL importers'low cost and/or illegal vehicle fuel?

    2) However, if a British company exports via a British vehicle, they are penalised with home fuel tax?

    3) Plus 'foreign' or new EU member lorries are entering 'freely' into UK and are not targeted enough by our HMRC OR BORDER POLICE? This is an issue this Government has failed to address to protect our borders from criminal gangs? That includes - human trafficking, drugs gangs and everything else that we All, AS NORMAL people would want protection from?

  • Comment number 68.

    To maximise fuel efficiency we need to be driving faster, approximately 55mph is the most efficient but traffic lights and slow roads are bad. Freewheeling down hills saves a lot of fuel too. the labour gov aught to decide if they are putting up costs or targetting dangerous driving. The country cant cope without vehicles (cannot be disputed) so they need to drop costs to improve safety, or let us drive a little more free but at the cost

  • Comment number 69.

    It's utterly dispiriting to see so many comments bleating on about tax increases, perceived Government conspiracies to "fleece us" and ill-informed comments about the UK being inundated with workshy scroungers.

    We have to recognise that our economy needs to undergo a readjustment. Yes, life is becoming more expensive: but it's only relative. We've enjoyed decades of improving living conditions, and we simply cannot sustain the cost in a global environment where, frankly, we're simply too expensive compared to developing countries. So we need to get used to it.

    And if I hear one more use of the phrases "Nu-Labour" or "Brown and his cronies" I'm going to be doubly dispirited.

  • Comment number 70.

    Gasoline prices are high due the rapid increase in usage in the far east, greedy oil companies, and the declining easy access to light sweet crude oil. The only way to decrease the demand for petroleum is for a unified effort around the world to develop technology for clean available renewable energy, which is easily accessable for the average consumer. This can be done though battery technology, the use of sugar cane, corn, and other vegetation that grows in abundance in many areas of the world. Inexpensive nuclear energy, solar, wind, wave and other energy sources are already available with today's technology.
    Oil companies have large interest groups that work together with vehicle manufactures. They often work hand in hand keeping petrol prices high. The only way to decrease demand for oil in the near future is to use today's technology. Alcohol based fuels, and batteries are relatively inexpensive, and available. Our best bet is to use these for now until other energy supplies are developed. With the serious support of national, and local governments around the world, this can be achieved.

    Brazil for example uses alcohol based fuel for most of their transportation needs. If they can go without petrol, why can't other nations? This fuel comes from the abundance of sugar cane which grows well in Brazil. North America grows plenty of corn, and the ethanol from corn can be used instead of petrol right now. Battery technology has come a long way, and that can be used as well. The nations of the world need to come together and tell the oil companies enough is enough. We can do without your over priced oil which does nothing, but, fill your pocket books, pollute the environment, and take away a non-renewable natural resource.

  • Comment number 71.

    49. At 2:54pm on 07 Apr 2010, JulesRN2009 wrote:

    Gosh, and I thought it was expensive over here in the USA. At ONLY $3.03 per gallon it's very cheap compared to the UK. I'd better stop moaning!!

    ***********************************
    We're still at $2.75 - just went up from $2.60+.
    Do keep on moaning! When you sit and accept with a "can't fight City Hall" attitude - they've got ya!

    Where I work, many drive from other States, 80-90 miles one way.
    We just don't have the public transport; with the sheer size of the country I can't get my head around a concept - where would you start? Train service obviously come to mind........

    Seriously....the "inning and outing" of people in their driveways is the most annoying & most wasteful! I plan my shopping route - out once, back home, done!

  • Comment number 72.

    60. At 3:49pm on 07 Apr 2010, Serguei wrote:

    I support increase in petrol tax.
    This is the best way to fight congestion on the road and it is good for the environment.

    --------------------------------------

    Really? You may want to think it through. Any increase in petrol costs you even if you dont drive. Any environmental fixes you think of will cost far more because transport costs dictate the economy, the price of everything and driving is a necessity. Wether its for work or social, driving provides more good than harm by far.

    So I really care about the price of fuel because if it drops by a few pence the whole country benefits.

  • Comment number 73.

    I enjoyed the rail systems in Europe . The USA walked away from this leg of our transportation decades ago . GM bought and dismantled these trolley and light rail systems to bolster bus and auto production . Now we are rethinking this strategy . Fuel cell buses might be cheaper for some regions of the country . Battery technology is not able to replace our gasoline/diesel fleet at present . The bottom line is the sheeple get fleeeced .

  • Comment number 74.

    "Have your driving habits changed"? is the HYS question?

    One might assume this question is directed to those who don't rely on a car just get to work on time to be available at least one or one-half hour before hand-over on essential or critical services that run 24/7 for all of us?

    If any posters can afford to drive for leisure or holiday purposes - well good for you. There are, for sure, most politicians who have absolutely no idea how much essential workers pay for:
    petrol
    car tax
    car insurance
    parking charges at hospital


    If you ASK ONE QUESTION OF ANY POLITICIAN WHO ASKS YOUR OPINION - ASK ONE QUESTION: "Do you know how much a nurse earns and how much that nurse pays in parking charges while admin staff pay nothing for parking or claim back parking charges?

  • Comment number 75.


    No I have not changed my driving habits due to increased fuel costs because I live in the country and there is NO public transport even if I wanted to use it. I have to drive to work, to buy food, use a post office or see a doctor - there is no alternative except giving up and living off the state. Put all MP's out in the country with no car for a fortnight and see how they fare!


  • Comment number 76.

    With the shutdown of a big petrol chemical plant in France recently, it signals the trend of decreasing petrol demand in Europe.
    It caused petrol cost to rise sharply as a result of a sudden decrease in supply. However, new cars are getting vastly more petrol efficient and people driving less and accomplishing more, we will soon see petrol cost going down again soon.
    I hardly ever drive nowadays, prefering to lug my shopping home and benefit from some exercising at the same time, and when I drive, it is slower, safer, more scenic and serene without hurry.

  • Comment number 77.

    As a rural pensioner, I changed my driving habits when I retired, but with no public transport and taxi's costing the earth, then I still need a car to shop, visit a GP, PO and library

  • Comment number 78.

    I stopped driving over 20 years ago when I moved to London. Public transport has improved but still has a long way to go. I dont regret giving up the car.
    It would be great if public transport was prioritised everywhere. First choice for a journey rather than a nasty inconvenience.
    I suppose the Government would miss their petrol money if this went too far tho!

  • Comment number 79.

    To those who say petrol is too expensive I say to you that you are talking pure and factual rubbish.

    Petrol is NOT expensive.

    What is expensive is the taxation and dutys levied on petrol.

    In UK, dutys and VAT account for around 2/3rds+ of the price, for every £1.20p worth of petrol you pay for, around 80p+ of it is tax, hence the ACTUAL petrol price without dutys or tax is around £0.40p a litre, which I personally would NOT call expensive.

    If you want lower prices, then STOP being deceived & stop voting for pretentious politicians who promise you better this & better that, or lower income tax or national insurance, because the money is mainly and often regained via other taxation especially petrol & fuel dutys & VAT.

  • Comment number 80.

    Finnish pump prices stand at around £1.36 a litre, which is a mite expensive. Planning essential use of the car for shopping/working purposes, and driving feather footed (necessary on snow and ice anyway) saves only a little. Just another bullet to bite. On the other hand, I can remember a time in the UK when petrol cost less than four shillings a gallon (takes you back a bit, does that), but my weekly wage was something under three pounds. Not only that, my first car, an Austin 7, managed 30 mpg. My current car, a medium sized hatchback, does close on 55 mpg.

  • Comment number 81.

    No 10.You seem to think that the tax on fuel is spent on the roads. No, no, no, it joins a large pool of taxes imposed by this government to be wantonly wasted.



  • Comment number 82.

    Don't blame the oil companies, blame the Government as more than 50% of the cost is down to them. They seem to tax everything, other than air, and still tell us thery don't have enough money.
    The price the oil companies charge is determined by worldwide demand, and whilst the price has gone up in dollar terms, the impact on us is worse because of the deteroriation in the pound, which again is down to rthe Government and their mismanagement of the economy. If the Government is correct and all countries have been affected by the Global economic crisis why has ther pound fallen against every other major currency. If we were all affected equally the exchange rates would have remain the same.
    I don't begrudge the oil companies the money they charge, as they have to produce it, refine it and transport it. They are also investing large sums to secure future supplies. The Government does nothing and as I say take well over 50%. Indeed if the price of oil on the world market had not increased the Government would not have delayed the duty increase.

  • Comment number 83.

    Just mailing my clients tonight with my increased call-out charges.

    Heyho....

  • Comment number 84.

    If consumers change their driving habits and use less petrol, government will simply increase taxes elsewhere to offset the decrease in revenue. Gripe about it all you want, but the government only increases taxes. Ever seen a tax go away without an increase somewhere else?

  • Comment number 85.

    "Gasoline prices are high due the rapid increase in usage in the far east, greedy oil companies, and the declining easy access to light sweet crude oil."

    Since you use the word 'gasoline' I assume you're in the USA. Your assertion that high prices are due to greedy oil companies etc. may be true over there but in the UK the ludicrously high prices are due to taxation. The greed of the governments over the last few decades has to be seen to be believed. As a result, the price of everything that has to be moved is also higher in the UK than most other countries. That's why the term 'ripoff Britain' can be heard so often.

  • Comment number 86.

    I drive at various times for my business and drive more quickly because it is more economical to do so. I plan most of my journeys to avoid congestion, as congestion free time is limited I drive quicker to get to where I need to go, carry out my business then return to base so I can continue being productive.

    If I am stuck in traffic I am wasting petrol going no-where fast and actually greatly adding to emissions & pollution with NO economic benefit or gains via wasted time using up time & resources doing nothing.

    By driving quicker within narrow times, my faster speeds and higher petrol consumption is actually no worse than sitting in traffic for an extra hour a day so in factual reality by driving faster I am not wasting petrol and get to where I need to be thus maximising my own business productivity by not wasting my time when I can better use it working & generating wealth. It also means 1 less car on the road at peak times.

    Its different if you are salaried on a basic wage, but because I work for myself, my time is money and the more time I can free up for wealth creating work the better. Also my business pays the cost of my work journeys.

    Just think, if you could just change your employment to self employment you can claim for petrol used for work and also for your vehicle and it's maintenance and over a year you could save yourself £thousands, especially if you commute daily, even claim on car park charges.

    Also, if self employed, you can also claim for train or other tansport costs.
    Since I was 16 I have mostly been self employed only with 2 very short jobs when I worked on Paye, which incidently were the 2 worst employers/businesses that I have experienced. NEVER again.

    Still, lest we forget, petrol is NOT expensive, but the taxation is which is based upon constantly growing demands of much of the public and also via stupid negligent & wasteful politicians & many rip-off contractors and businesses and many public workers who are hugely unproductive and wasteful at great cost and taxation burden, paid much via petrol price.

  • Comment number 87.

    I was around in the 70's when a shortage of petrol led to the imposition of a 50 MPH speed limit on All roads except motorways.
    Guess what?? journey times were reduced as traffic flow was improved, and also fuel consumption for most vehicles was much lower due to vehicles running most efficiently at around 50MPH.
    I might now be of an age where I irritate impatient motorists who either can't, or won't plan their Journeys so they have sufficient time to reach their destinations without driving like idiots, but at least by driving as I do, I have reduced my fuel costs by at least 25%.
    All I do is observe speed limits, accelerate and brake gently, leave plenty of time for my journey and ignore the idiots who Tailgate me, flash their lights at me, and make obscene guestures at me.
    In fact I have been known to slow down if someone behind tries to make me go faster by driving 6inches from by rear bumber.
    Learn to drive in a proper manner and your fuel costs will drop by at least 25% and you will also be amazed that your journey times are not much longer.

  • Comment number 88.

    I often have to travel about 220 miles from Budapest, Hungary to one of our offices in Zagreb, Croatia. Normally I can't quite make the round trip on a full tank, and I average about 39-40 mpg. Out of curiosity I dropped my average speed on the motorway from 80mph to 65mph, my mpg rose to 53 and I was able to make the round trip on a single tank.

    I didn't appreciate the savings that could be made from dropping my speed, I wonder if others have....

  • Comment number 89.

    Yes & no. Yes I don't cut down on where I usually drive to. But now

    instead of trying to get my car into a parking space I find one where I

    don't have to waste perol parking .... between 2 park cars as I don't

    have power steering. I also read recenty that using the heater in the

    car waste petrol! So now I turn it off or down! I also intend to get my

    tyres pumped up at the garage as I hear if too uneven or not at the

    correct air in it, that uses more petrol. I NEVER use the cheap

    supermarket petol it was no good for my car, even before it came in the

    news, afew years ago. And last but not least, I try not to REVERSE -

    every little bit helps .... ME

  • Comment number 90.

    A sensible party if they looked at this problem could win a lot of voters with a very simple procedure...

    Fuel Prices are most Duty & VAT as you have to pay VAT on the Duty.

    However, if you REMOVE the VAT on the Duty and only charged it on the petrol, it would make a difference in prices and before anyone claims it will loose millions of pounds in tax, it will SAVE the ecomomy more if you do this...

    Stop all business's claiming back the VAT on the Fuel once the VAT on the Duty is removed....!

    The money the economy saves is because;

    millions of people will not have to fill in forms to hand into their companies with the VAT receipts.

    more man hours saved as the companies will not have to check everything before submitting it as part of their VAT procedure.

    more man hours saved as HMRC would not have to use vital staff processing all these claims and could spend more time catching VAT and TAX evaders!

  • Comment number 91.

    Have [my] driving habits changed?

    Driving 'habits', I guess I do try to drive a bit smoother, fool myself that I am saving money. Beyond that I do curse more each time I fill up.

  • Comment number 92.

    With increasing traffic and pollution any responsibile government was going to have to raise fuel duties. The polluter must pay! (My opinion is also that industry does) but what government will do that?)

    Of course we are all going to have to choose when we drive our cars in future. During the last 40 years a car and driving licence have been seen as rights. Now people we have to change their behaviour and choose when to drive to the shops, hospital, day care centre, schools, airports and that is right whilst we live in a society that pollutes as much as it does?

  • Comment number 93.

    Gasoline and diesel are expensive. Hydrogen fuel is an answer. Water is processed and sold at a minimum cost. Conversion from oil to H2O will cause a world economic surge.

  • Comment number 94.

    Re: #17. At 1:34pm on 07 Apr 2010, HelmetCheese wrote:

    I still love driving, and ill do it anyway regardless of the price of diesel and fuel. Its inflation, its the prices set by the government, so live with it. I dont moan about it. I still burn oil at a high rate, and since i honestly believe that global warming is a mythical pile of rubbish, i dont really care about:
    A) Pollution
    B) Saving the world
    C) other peoples moans and groans about the price petrol
    D) greenpeace
    E) G20 protestors
    F) Anything that anyone else has to say on the subject
    E)

    ...Then may I say that your username is very apt indeed.

  • Comment number 95.

    TheotherHalf #92

    We only have increased traffic because public transport is a joke and too expensive.

    We only have pollution increases because we are forced to sit in traffic or drive at 10-20mph over speed humps and traffic calming..

    If the government learned a little engineering, they would find a cars best fuel consumption is around 56mph at a constant speed as the engines burn the fuel more EFFICIENTLY at this speed - this was a result of legislation in the 1970's fuel crisis whereby Governments told manufacturers to make engines more efficient, hence increased speeds!

    If traffic was allowed to flow, we would all save petrol so the worlds oil would last longer and pollution levels would decrease... ask an engineer!

  • Comment number 96.

    As a student, the increased cost of petrol has hit me hard, even for my very economical Ka. I don't drive unless absolutely necessary, choosing the half hour walk to lectures. However, living a 45 minute walk from the town centre is a long way to carry shopping back, and the supermarket is further still, with no direct bus route.
    When we go shopping, I take friends with me to make the most of the trip, and get money for petrol off them too, which is still cheaper than them getting the bus. I can usually make half tank of petrol last 2 weeks now, although this has gone up £5 in the last few months.
    As for travelling from home to university, this is the difference between a train journey which will be £25 at its cheapest with 2 changes with all my cases, against the quick drive back on the motorway, just over 100 miles. Last time it costed under £10, there really is no comparison.
    The only thing that has changed with my driving style is that I no longer make non-essential journeys in my free time, to visit other cities.

  • Comment number 97.

    My habits havent changed much - mind you what's with this 'record' price of 119.7?. it's been higher than that at most places in the South East for a few weeks now. And back in 2008 in soared to in excess of 135.9p on average over a wide area not just some local bandit. Where do the BBC get their numbers from?

  • Comment number 98.

    OK I take back my rant ;-)... missed the word average in the headline grabbing, er, headline. In any case the South East 'average' price is substantially higher than the overall UK average.

  • Comment number 99.

    I cycle 1 mile to work.
    My condolences to you all.

  • Comment number 100.

    Of course i've changed my driving habits. Not because of fuel prices though, its because if I hit most of the pot-holes in Sandwell at anything more than a crawl i'll write my car off.

 

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