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Your views on Question Time: 25 February 2010

14:54 UK time, Thursday, 25 February 2010

Question Time, the BBC's premier political debate programme comes from Cardiff on Thursday 25 February.

The panel includes the senior Labour politician Peter Hain MP, the shadow defence secretary Dr Liam Fox MP, the Plaid Cymru leader Elfyn Llwyd MP, UKIP's Nigel Farage MEP and the journalist and broadcaster Janet Street Porter.

What are your thoughts about the programme and the panel? Let us know here on the Question Time debate page.

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Read more about changes to Have Your Say

How damaging is the bullying allegation to Gordon Brown and the Labour Party in the run up to a general election?

Is it conceivable that "the forces of hell" were unleashed against Alastair Darling from Number 10 without Gordon Brown's knowledge or consent?

Are Nigel Farage's rude and attention seeking remarks about the new President of the European Council conclusive proof that he and UKIP have become a boorish national embarrassment?

Should RBS pay 1.3 billion pounds in bonuses when they lost £3.6 billion last year?

Was Ed Balls right to amend the Children's, Schools & Families Bill to allow faith schools to teach sex education in a way that reflects their beliefs?

Shouldn't John Terry be the one stepping down from the England team, not Wayne Bridge?

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    Come on Janet. I've net met a boss yet who says that they are a bully.

  • Comment number 2.

    That's so unfair of Janet. Its nothing to do with gender, bullying is a desease, anyone can have it. I worked under a manager once, she was the only bully I have ever encountered in my life.

  • Comment number 3.

    It just shows what a school like world we are living in in Britain. Its pathetic that we as a nation have to talk about what normally goes on in a school playground, and how it affects the nation. Surely these crazy politicians should get on with the job at hand, and keep this sort of nonsense to themselves. Come on folks, start talking about the stuff that counts in this world, not trivial rubbish!

  • Comment number 4.

    Alledged bullying from the PM? If he had bullyed the rest of his staff and government into making at least 1 right decision in the last 12 years then i might at least try to undertstand it. However the catalogue of mistakes overseen by this man and the former PM makes me think that he's not only a bully, but an incompetent one at that.

  • Comment number 5.

    Bullying:

    I thought my TV had failed when I was sure I saw Peter Haines nose grow very long, but it was ok when I looked at the rest.

    As for is Labour Damaged, I seriously hope they as damaged as the damage they've done to British Britain. Which means at 64 years old I hope not see a Labour Government ever again.

  • Comment number 6.

    The speaker this week reminded members of parliament that they should be aware of how the in-house bickering and juvenile behaviour looked to the electorate and on the programme, it is frequent that MPs behave like spoilt children and i think the chair should feel free to remind the panel to behave according to how they wish to look to the public!!! The game playing is pathetic and i have NEVER voted to allow any MP to behave in such a manner.

  • Comment number 7.

    The PM tried to hush up his own chancellor because he didn't want the public to know that his own government were aware of the disaster that was about to unfold. If the crash had happened without the government having not made a prior statement to warn us, then the government could have distanced itself from it even more. A failed attempt at a cover up. At least Darling had the bottle to tell us what was about to happen.

  • Comment number 8.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 9.

    When was the last time Peter Hain was in the show, has he not been on this year already
    If I remember correctly, dimbleby was unfair to him.
    Lets see if the comments posted on here last time have changed dimbleby's attitude

  • Comment number 10.

    Why is Peter Hain on this programme he never answers a question.

  • Comment number 11.

    I find it interesting that with this whole bullying argument, no one is callying into question the validity of the allegations. The National Bullying helpline is endorsed heavily by the Tories, and also offers a question able service. Most people contacting the helpline will find themselves being referred to a Bullying Investigation company, which in turn is owned by Christine Pratt.
    The charity itself is 206 days overdue on registering their accounts, and have only registers around £800 expenditure since the charity was created. Any charity set up by a Bullying Investigation company and heavily endoresed by members of the Conservative party should have its validity called into question.

  • Comment number 12.

    This week EU judges have ruled that illegal immigrants in the UK must be paid welfare and be able to use our NHS for free. Why is nobody asking questions about this? or why migrants are getting over £100,000 in welfare each year to live in luxury homes in London. Only a vote for UKIP can change this but in our first past the post system we have to vote tactically and vote for the party that can get Labour our.

  • Comment number 13.

    What has Janet added to this debate apart from whinging about "female opression" ?

  • Comment number 14.

    I'm pretty sure Alistair Darling actually mentioned the Tories and press when he talked about the 'fires of hell'! Didn't anyone on panel actually watch the interview?

  • Comment number 15.

    Janet Street-Porter is talking nonsense. Women are far worse bullies at work than men - more spiteful and underhand. Also, girls at school are far more hurtful to other girls at school than boys. The notion that women are collaborative and supportive just because we're women is fantasy, although I wish this were so.

  • Comment number 16.

    How can Janet Street-Porter possibly make those comments about bullying being a male ("macho") phenomenon?! Just imagine the reaction if one of the male panellists proposed a similar argument about women - they would be taken to task for sexism!

    Irrespective of the fact that I know women who argue precisely the opposite (i.e. that working in a heavily females environment is much more bitchy than a male environment), Janet's comments are just fatuous and distract from people trying to have a (vaguely) sensible debate.

  • Comment number 17.

    Can you ask Janet if she thinks Gordon Ramsay is a bully? She has been paid quite highly by the F word

  • Comment number 18.

    Isn't it amazing that Janet Street Porter continually harrassed and interrupted Peter Hain when he was trying to defend Gordon Brown. I consider that bullying and I am sure many others would too. Presumably she does not. I wonder why !!

  • Comment number 19.

    At least Nigel Farage has the bottle to speak up to the unelected highly paid European ministers who are taking powers away from the United Kingdom. We weren't allowed a referendum on the Lisbon treaty despite this governments promise to give us one. This country is brainwashed by the toffs at the top. Wake up Britain.

  • Comment number 20.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 21.

    Peter Haine:

    EU = Democracy = lengthening nose, again.

    This as a classic example of why many people are fed-up with Politicians.

    Labour had a Referendum on Regional Assy's - despite a resounding NO vote they ignored the result and went ahead anyway - Labour Democracy in action, not nice. But very Stalinist!

  • Comment number 22.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 23.

    RBS EXECUTIVES, IN FACT ALL RBS BANKERS ARE LAUGHING AT US ALL. THE BRITISH PEOPLE WILL ONE DAY WAKE UP AND REALISE JUST WHAT A MESS WE'RE ALL IN. TROUBLE IS IT WILL BE TOO LATE BY THEN. THANKS MR BROWN, FOR PUTTING AT LEAST 3 MILLION OUT OF WORK AND THEN ALLOWING THESE BANKERS TO HAVE MASSIVE BONUSES. WAKE UP EVERYONE, AND GET AS ANGRY ABOUT THIS AS I I AM.

  • Comment number 24.

    UKIP have embarrassed themselves not British population as the British population believe they are talking rubbish. How dare that man say he is speaking on behalf of the British population! Hes as bad as Kilroy-Silk. Maybe we should give him a talk show and then UKIP will have come full circle ?

  • Comment number 25.

    its 2308h and the last comment published is 1043h. c'mon we need faster moderation

  • Comment number 26.

    So, question time has decided to remove the threat of mr farage by tying his comments in with the bullying debate. Did nobody actually hear what he really said to the head of the EU ? Nigel is fighting the cause for the UK, I think this will probably work in his favour and solidify the vote - never in the last 25 years has there been a politician so ready to protect UK interests. Go Farage !

  • Comment number 27.

    Peter Hain failed to answer the chairman's question; why couldn't the Government tell RBS that bonuses were not to be paid this year (and next... etc., etc.).

  • Comment number 28.

    Peter Haine:

    It's a shame he was not asked what the purpose of the FSA was, as I understand it G. Brown removed from the BoE the responsibility of monitoring the Financial Services including banking in Britain to the FSA.
    So either the FSA was a total failure, or they did what they were told, ie. let it rip. Because the Treasury was certainly happy with the billions they got from the banks throughout. So it has to be one other the other, the FSA was incompetent or they did what they were told - which is it?

  • Comment number 29.

    Nigel Farage, What a guy. This chap should be running this country.

    If the rest of the MP's showed an ounce of Nigels courage then this country wouldn't be in this state.

    Ukip should be running this country.

  • Comment number 30.

    Nigel farage's comments are a symbol of thr silent majorities wishes for a vote on the EU. He like danial hannan and several others should not be denounced for their comments but instead applauded for protecting the democracy's that were fought for in the wars thst the other members of the panal are so keen to mention!

  • Comment number 31.

    There goes Janet, bullying the rest of the panel. And Nigel being an absolute pompus twit.

    Will the bbc cancel the Apprentice or C4 sack Gordon Ramsay. I don't want bullies, but i do want to see people getting passionate about their causes.

    Bankers can all leave as far as i am concerned, britain will be better without them.

  • Comment number 32.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 33.

    Tax payers as shareholders should want the best bankers running RBS so it is profitable and its shareprice rises. If the bank has to give out bonuses to secure the right employees to maximise its profitablilty, then bonuses should be given as its in the best interests of the taxpayer.

  • Comment number 34.

    Politically, I am euro-sceptic and maybe the sort of person UKIP would like to appeal to. However I am not xenophobic I enjoy visiting countries in Europe and have visited Belgium many times and enjoyed the hospitality of its friendly people. I am ashamed of Nigel Farage's patronising, insulting and frankly bullying performance in the European Parliament. What must Belgian people and other Europeans think of us as a nation when we are represented by people of this calibre. It should be possible to conduct a debate without resorting to personal abuse. Mr Farage, you are an embarassment.

  • Comment number 35.

    why do the Green party not get representation on Question time?

  • Comment number 36.

    I just have to say I totaly agree with Nigel. I've been living in Belgium for a year now and I would have to say it is a non-country. So much so that people won't even talk to you if you address them in the wrong language (Flemmish,French and don't forget the German speaking part).

    The incomers that I live near joke that it is almost a third world country and I have to agree that they are not far wrong.

  • Comment number 37.

    I watch Question Time week after week and am amazed by the number of liberal, left wing, multicultural loving, eco mentalist, pro european, anti english guests that manage to "comment". People reading from pre written notes supporting the views of the "list above".

    How do I manage to move amongst people with such opposing views to the audience in your programmes? Weird!

  • Comment number 38.

    The predominantely Welsh audience keep referring to themselves as 'The Taxpayer'. Is anyone aware that Public Spending (Government expenditure) as a share of GDP in Wales is at 69.1% this year. In Communist Cuba, it is 60%.

  • Comment number 39.

    Nigel Farage is correct about Belgium. I have worked out of there for 12 years and the country is falling apart. There is no need for his personal comments but he is correct about what is happening. If it really is a reflection of the EU but on a smaller scale the whole thing will eventually fall apart.

  • Comment number 40.

    Nigels comments have been taken out of context. He is right 100% about the EU and the Presidency. Vom Rumpuy is not elected and the parliament is illigitimate. Sadly these serious issues that he made have once again been forgotten and everything has turned onto his comments about the president. I am not a fan of bullying and did think he toed the line but he has said harsher things, but all have been true. He is a common sense man and is the voice of the majority of the British public.

  • Comment number 41.

    Peter Haines needs to get basic facts on banking bonuses right. His claim that 50% of the 1.3bn will be paid in bonus tax is not true - it is only 200m ie 15%. He further said the individuals will pay a further 50% - untrue as this doesn't come in until April! Worrying.

  • Comment number 42.

    Why should someone get a bonus for failing?There are people who lose everything,how must they feel.They make a mistake and lose it all,the big bosses fail and get a bonus.Why even try to succeed with the huge bonusses they get ???

    N.Farage is someone who should be an example,he should think before saying stupid and childish things.These people rule the world and can`t even have a discussion.How will anyone take him seriously if he starts calling names when he can`t handle himself with words.
    Forgive my English,I`m dutch.
    Greetings:Eric.

  • Comment number 43.

    Irrespective of whether a Volcanic rage or temper is described as enthusiasm or angry with one self, should that person be in a position to govern this country; leave alone make decisions where military personnel, hardware & munitions are involved.

    I THINK NOT !!!!

  • Comment number 44.

    You cannot shut the gate after the horse has bolted, higher teenage pregnancies, STI's etc. No amount of sex education and whatever way you teach it is going to alter the fact that we in Britain, live in an ever increasingly sexualised society. As parents we have to control what our children are exposed to, video games, dvd's, music etc. Most 13/14 yr olds go around acting and talking like they are adults, drinking, sex, even drugs. Depressing but true.

  • Comment number 45.

    I guess they just haven't found the evidence yet that the Tories are behind all these sudden allegations.

  • Comment number 46.

    Give. Me. A. Break.

    What is it with these people? How can any morally sound people believe that religion deserves any say in how sex education, of all things, is taught.

    But WOW, Peter Hain on Creationism, YOU LEGEND. That's what I wanted to hear, and to the gentleman before him, thumbs up.

  • Comment number 47.

    The shadow defence secretary Dr Liam Fox MP said "its a bit late to introduce financial regulations"....
    -EXCUSE ME-
    But I beleive these regulations were introduced after the stock exchange crash of the 1930's and OHH the Conservative Govenment under Margaret Thatcher removed these regulations along with good old Ronnie Regan to free up the financial markets!

  • Comment number 48.

    When discussing Herman Van Rompuy and Belgium, with respect to the comments prior to the programme from Nigel Farage, Liam Fox suggested sympathy for Belgium in view of their losses in Afganistan - Belgium has lost no soldiers there due to the restriction(s) their goverment has imposed on their presence in the country. His comment suggests he is completely unaware of the military situation for Belgium (it's clear in the Belgium press and to most of the people who live in the country) and / or was looking to appear caring by expressing sympathy for a situation he did not care to take the time to understand.


  • Comment number 49.

    so a muslim school has to teach about homosexuality but then can say but of course in our religion we would put them to death

  • Comment number 50.

    I've been teaching French for 17 years to 11-16 year olds. It is a battle with many to make them understand the importance of why they should learn a language and how itwill help them to understand and respect other culture So when I hear an MEP being so rude about another country and its culture, I despair. He would have done better to stick to politics and not stoop to comments about the man's appearance and his country. Even more embarrassing that he represents Britain! Unacceptable behaviour and I can't see what he thought he would benefit by his rude remarks.

  • Comment number 51.

    This religious protection is getting ridiculous. When will we get over religion. What held science back hundreds of years? Religion not the gays. What caused most of those European wars that were mentioned? Religion not the gays. What continues to cause prejudice, terrorism, discrimination and ridiculous difference in communities? Religion, not the gays. When will we finally figure out we should decide out own morality. Please.

  • Comment number 52.

    Alistair Darling stating the "Forces of hell" being unleashed by number 10 was true and I am convinced that Gordon Brown played the main role in rubbishing him. Remember Darling said in Aug 2008, this would be the the worst recession in Britain for 60 years, in stating this, remembering at this time he had only been the Chancellor for one year who would be to blame for this position none other than the previous Chancellor Grordon Brown. It is incredulous for anyone to be taken in by this Prime Ministers puritan denial platitudes.

  • Comment number 53.

    Over the last few months the question master has become progressively bigger and bigger. His chair is higher, is forward and he's certainly wearing extra width shoulder pads.

    Tonight his eye level reaches the top of the head of his neighbours.

    At the current rate, we'll need high-screen TV rather than widescreen!

    This is do distracting and unnecessary.

  • Comment number 54.

    I hope everybody who has a RBS bank account withdraws their money and moves it to a bank that pays no bonuses like Nationwide.

  • Comment number 55.

    I'm sorry didn't the labour party abolish clause 28? I think Ed Balls popularist policy on the teaching of sex education by faith shools is even worse. I thought I lived in a secular society, obviously not and to have the panelists say that they had thought about the issue but decided it was better to let schools get on with teaching my question in reply is... is it acceptable then to teach children the creationist fantasy as opposed to evolution. I can only see that this policy will lead to even more homophobic bullying within schools than are experienced now.

  • Comment number 56.

    Why discuss football, this programme and panel has been one of the worst ever.

  • Comment number 57.

    i wonder what liam's view is on the racist/xenophobic t-shirts available in scotland as reported on the bbc website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8533791.stm

    the scots are reported to retail 'ANYONE BUT ENGLAND' t shirts

  • Comment number 58.

    Sex Education:

    I have for many years worried about the Governments obsession with Kids and Sex. They spent a very long time getting rid of Section 28. Which only prevented the 'Promtion' of homosexuality, by removing the legislation which by definition allowed it's promotion, (I can just imagine such promotion being enforced in Muslim Schools). Since when they have embarked on sexual Education at a pace, hence we now have the fruits of those efforts - an increased number of teenage pregnancies, so what ever they have done has been purely to sexualise youngsters. The results are for all to see, such results bring us back to the Governments obsession with Sex and kids in schools.

    For Reference Section 28.
    Prohibition on promoting homosexuality by teaching or by publishing material (1) The following section shall be inserted after section 2 of the [1986 c. 10.] Local Government Act 1986 (prohibition of political publicity)—
    “2A Prohibition on promoting homosexuality by teaching or by publishing material (1) A local authority shall not—
    (a) intentionally promote homosexuality or publish material with the intention of promoting homosexuality;
    (b) promote the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship.
    (2) Nothing in subsection (1) above shall be taken to prohibit the doing of anything for the purpose of treating or preventing the spread of disease.
    (3) In any proceedings in connection with the application of this section a court shall draw such inferences as to the intention of the local authority as may reasonably be drawn from the evidence before it.
    (4) In subsection (1)(b) above “maintained school” means,—
    (a) in England and Wales, a county school, voluntary school, nursery school or special school, within the meaning of the Education Act 1944; and
    (b) in Scotland, a public school, nursery school or special school, within the meaning of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980.”

  • Comment number 59.

    oh dear! what an error for the question time debate... can't see the useful stats of comments made, in moderation queue, rejected, published... PLUS the reverse chronology was useful... most recent on top is a good thing...PLUS recommendation allowed us to show support for comments we like... PLUS still an awful delay in moderation so that the live debate and interaction with what the TV programme is showing is way off... as the italian army chap in 'allo 'allo would say, 'what a mistaka to maka'

  • Comment number 60.

    Was Ed Balls right to amend the Children's, Schools & Families Bill to allow faith schools to teach sex education in a way that reflects their beliefs?

    No he was NOT! I went to a catholic school like two of the audience and one said the bike shed was where they learnt the facts of life and the other said a black and white film about rabbits. I am younger than both of them (by a mile) and we had nothing special apart from a 15 minute talk supported by a drawing of a funny looking mans manhood and told that it was a sin to use a condom at the catholic school I went to.... very (unpractical! All the opt out will do will allow schools to distort the basic facts of life. I can imagine the catholic schools teaching sex education down the lines of no problems and if one gets pregnant it must be the 'emasculate conception'. All this from a committed dissident catholic.... !

  • Comment number 61.

    Janet Street Porter acted like a bit of a bully tonight...shouting like a mad thing...& as for Nigel Farage, I won't call him a MEP...more a disgrace to a disgrace & an ignomnious ignoramus!


    They should put him & Ukip into a "Rubbish Skip"!

  • Comment number 62.

    sex education has nothing to do with teenage pregnancy! young girls need to be taught self worth and have belief in a good career and life prospects.......just as usual the government would have us believe its all our fault and a quick fix of wagging the finger again will work....teenages realise that their life prospects are very limited in this country that leaves its poorest families to watch as the rich get richer and the to poor struggle on.......education, education, education...what a croc.....they meant charge for education, education, education....leaving the poorer children unable to attain what the rich can!

  • Comment number 63.

    Did I hear Elfyn Llwyd say that believers in creationism are barmy? I thought he said he did not agree with stepping over the "mark" with regard to earlier insults pointed at Belgium. There are many respectable people who believe in creationism or alternatives to current unproven scientific theories who are certainly not barmy. I hope he publically apologises for the comment.

  • Comment number 64.

    Why can I complain about a comment, yet I am unable to indicate my agreement. Most other sites have the agree/disagree green/red arrows. This moderates the question/comments by the people activley involved in the debate. Can you also state why certain comments have failed moderation, presumably they fall foul of one or other of the house rules. Therefore you could state "This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules reason:(eg. off topic)" inserting the rule that is been applied?

  • Comment number 65.

    if the goverment is so concerned about the bulling why dont they strengthen the law like introducing the dignity at work act. I have been bullied out of my job because I did not want to work a 60 hour week. I know this sounds awful but I am scared to find another job in case it happens again.

  • Comment number 66.

    SherryShamsi wrote.... bullying is a desease...

    Trust you to write something so asinine and inept.

    It is not a disease. It is a description of foul behaviour towards others to cause their detriment for your own form of delight. One does not need to be 'ill' to do this.

  • Comment number 67.

    Why have an all female questio time audience. Can we have an all male one, if not why not, I suspect that it would be seen as sexist but its fine to be sexist towards men, just like its ok to have al female car insurance companies. I suspect if I set up a male one it would be described as a male shovenistic pig

  • Comment number 68.

    So the panel and the BBC think that the Catholic Church should teach children about Abortion.....funny that the Establishment and Uncle Tom Cobley and all stopped the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children from showing the results of an Abortion in a Party Election Broadcast several years ago.

    Whats the matter.....too hot in the Abortion theatre for you..??

    OK to corrupt children quietly, with a Guardian reader school nurse backing up the "facts"....but avert your eyes from the bloody mess.

    Typical.

  • Comment number 69.

    Currently studying EU law i can confirm that the comments below about immigrants living a life of luxury at the taxpayers expense and that we should vote UKIP is ill founder rubbish produced by rags.
    It is not the case now, and has never been the case if you look to the Free movement of Workers and the Rights under the Citizenship articles.

  • Comment number 70.

    I notice that none of the panel queried the assertion by Miss Street Porter about the soaring rate of teenage pregnancy.According to the Economist`s article,(5-12 Feb), "How broken is Britain" Teenage pregnancy has declined.I quote P11,"...British grannies know differently. Teenage pregnancy is still too common,but it has been declining with the odd hiccup. A girl aged between 15 and 19 today is half as likely to have a baby as her grandmother.Her partner will probably not marry her...but will be less likely to beat her..."

    Is the Economist correct? It is hard to believe the panel could be so uniformly ignorant.

  • Comment number 71.

    I don't think the government should allow faith schools to have a different sex education curriculum to non faith schools because it sets a bad precedence. If they can be allowed not to teach certain aspects of sex education then why shouldn't they be allowed not to teach certain aspects of science because it goes against their religion. I'm all for faith schools but I think it places some students at a disadvantage because it means they don't get the full picture. Students should be taught both from a religious perspective and a scientific perspective and then left to make informed choices.

  • Comment number 72.

    First time I've been on this site as a user. Made a very measured and sensible comment regarding Nigel Farge and you have not yet published it but have published many messages posted after mine. What is the problem? Why are you apparently stopping me from contributing to the debate?

  • Comment number 73.

    On the RBS bonus question - the contribution from the (recently) made redundant RBS former employee was extremely pertinent. The branch network, who deal with us, voters and taxpayers, have always made a profit, and their rewards have never included bonuses, but many of them face losing their jobs for being good at that. The latest chief exec., parachuted in by the Government makes the same old tawdry excuse for paying the "smart" people" shed loads of money. This "retention of talent" argument is so worn out. Firstly, it's incredibly self-serving - the implication of course is that the board are of course even higher up the "talent" league. They are so special, that they will forgo their (again implication, richly deserved) bonuses, but MUST pay their "talent" to retain them. The poor old board members have to survive on their multi-million basic salaries. This of course is the same old rationalisation for board members in large corporations justifying their excessive pay - the more they pay the "talent" to stay, the more they must be worth (sic). Who got banks like RBS into what, in the real world would be an insolvency situation?? Oh my god, it must have been the "special people". Outrageous. And the Government have approved these disgusting bonuses.

  • Comment number 74.

    This just goes to show what is truly wrong with this country. As we have moved futher and further from the teachings of God in the bible our society and our country is going down the pan and quickly.
    That panelists can sit and say that creationism is rubbish on the main channel of the BBC, in a supposed Christian country is just heartbreaking and shamefull.

  • Comment number 75.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 76.

    The myth that the panelists don't know the questions beforehand was dispelled forever when both Elfyn Llwyd and Janet streetporter both said they had given a great deal of thought beforehand to the question asked.
    Come on, its like the muppet show in the house of commons on Wednesday at lunchtime, if they know the questions beforehand, what's the point of the programme.

  • Comment number 77.

    Ed Balls was wrong to amend the sex education bill. Schools should teach plain unbiased facts and parents and society, as a whole, should teach morality and social cohesion. The church can teach religeon and it's doctrines. Do we have a right to force our beliefs on our children? Should we make them feel guilty or unloved because they do not see things as we see them? How can we deny children the right to become free thinking adults? Religeons tend to divide communities and make us fearful of each other. Teach our young to care for each other; to let others be different without seeing that difference as bad.

  • Comment number 78.

    First i'd like to ask what was the purpose of the change in how you comment on questiontime because if it was too speed up comments published it seems to have sadly failed! The animosity directed towards Nigel Farage was unacceptable, we can only think that Wales gets large EU grants via the English taxpayer. The underlying racism towards the English would not be acceptable if it were the other way round. Nigel Farage is extremely passionate about Britains independance and his condemnation of the lies, corruption and the denial of a referendum to the English by this Labour government is to be aplauded. The arrogant political elite of this country and the EU parliament seem to forget that UKIP were 2nd only to Conservatives in the Eu elections and even the BNP gained a million votes. Finally an all women audience is surely sexist would it be acceptable if it were all male

  • Comment number 79.

    Farage Insult

    Where do the BBC dredge these audiences up from? The EU is dismantling our democracy in colusion with our government yet the crowd choose to get upset about personal insults? They applaud meaningless pro EU soundbites from Hain but boo Farage who is doing nothing more than fighting for their freedom.
    Sometimes when you see the ignorance of the British people on display it makes you weep. Go Nigel!

  • Comment number 80.

    I trust now that all of the people who wish to see failure unrewarded, will now start voting for a 'text book conservative party', rather than, as we see in Wales, massive Labour (massive rewarders of failure, bailers out and prolongers of false economies) or Left Wing Nationalists trends?

    No?

  • Comment number 81.

    It was ironic that the panellists comments on the increase in teenage preganancies and transmission of STDs, were followed by the question on the behaviour of John Terry, as reported in the press. It seems to be a case of double standards to condone the behaviour of "celebrities" and politicians and then not expect the wider population to have the same "freedoms". We are constantly bombarded of photographs of these people falling out nightclubs, not having respect for each other or for wives or secreataries - it is all there for the taking, with bank balances to match. It was left to the younger people in the audience to comment on the fact that they are role models.

  • Comment number 82.

    So, Peter, Liam and Elfyn say creationism is bammy, but hold on, channel 80 Stephen Sachur is interviewing leading scientist Robert Winston who is claiming (as a scientist) that many parts of science can not be trusted as the claims are financially motivated. hmm.

  • Comment number 83.

    Basel, a town in Switzerland where a bunch of regulators, accountants and government officials met and put together a regulatory framework. To cut a long story short: 'highly diversified and restructured derivatives are safe because they spread the risk so a) do not require risk analysis and b) won't impact use of balance sheet because they are safe as, erm, houses'.

    Result: Banks move assets into highly structured derivatives.

    New York, a large city in the USA and the chairman of the Fed Alan Greenspan decides there isn't enough liquidity in the system for the boom times, so he lowers (and lowers, and lowers) interest rates. Cash is sloshing around the system like water on the Herald of Free Enterprise. Mortgages are easy to package with the derivatives and cash is easy to get hold of on the other side to provide to the borrower - everyone buys a house because they can afford the interest rates, and the banks have been told by the regulatory framework that there is no risk. Lots of people get rich.

    The ratings agencies think all this wonderful investment is fantastic and rate everything 'AAA' - safe as (rich) governments.

    More money sloshing round the system. Interest rates continue falling. House prices continue going up. Everyone on the ladder is getting rich.


    Doubt about the ability for some people to pay their mortgages in the US resonates quietly round and hey presto, loss of confidence and financial meltdown in the form of banks not lending to each other (cash is suddenly difficult to get hold of because noone knows who is closest to running out of it) and because of that banks can't fund their day-to-day activities. Call it a credit crunch.

    Solution: UK Goverment invests £100bn in banks to back them up and ensure they continue to lend cash round the system, as do the US on a larger scale because they have a larger economy.

    £100bn

    UK Government PRINTS £200 billion to pay for this.

    Genious, why don't they just print more money? Actually, to save printing costs why don't they just declare each leaf on trees/plants are equivalent to £1.

    So to conclude. Who is to blame:
    Regulators,
    Accountants,
    Treasury officials,
    Ratings Agencies,
    Banks,
    People assuming mortgages are a gravy train (like banks),
    Central bankers,
    and anyone else that benefitted from the tax revenues or share price rises and didn't complain that it seemed a bit too much like magic.

    Either we choose communism, or accept that economics is about allocating scarce resources and 'money' is a (scarce) intermediary to this, and if there is too much cash sloshing around the system it does not reflect fundamental fact that there are still only so many underlying resources.

    Stop the simplistic (and slightly ignorant) banker-only bashing, there are MANY more people to blame here and not all banks caused this. Politicians are just as guilty through lack of understanding of what they were regulating (call it stupidity).

    What has this to do with RBS? Nothing, I think they should have been allowed to fail. I also think that if the UK tax payer wants to profit (from the invented money printed so generously by the government) then they should understand that this causes more money to slosh around the system again, and this time it won't get wrapped up in derivitives. No, this time it will go straight into inflation and force interest rate rises. Big ones.

  • Comment number 84.

    Are Nigel Farage's rude and attention seeking remarks about the new President of the European Council conclusive proof that he and UKIP have become a boorish national embarrassment?

    No, bit of British humour, Nigel Farage was making parallels with our 'great leader' - unelected and considered to be a waste of space... maybe the he new President of the European Council should ask our great leader what the 'Glasgow kiss' is (sorry the Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath smooch - a not so obvious version of the Glasgow kiss) and how then use it to show Nigel Farage what bullying is really about!

    Seems like some 'Brits' have the opinion that it is better to be in Europe so that one can get in there, as in Cesar and the 'is this a dagger I see in my back' LOL

  • Comment number 85.

    When the question of Nigel Farage's outburst at the EU parliament was discussed he was accused of racism,yet the racist views of the studio audience regarding the John Terry question and England went unopposed,funny old world eh.

  • Comment number 86.

    Farage is a disgrace. His remarks were appalling. Had he made similar remarks in the House of Commons, he would surely have been told to leave the chamber. Belgium may well have its problems but it could well outlast the UK. He does not even have the grace to call the Flemish by their proper name, which is "Flemings", not "Flems". The sooner he and the rest of the U-kippers become a footnote in the history books, the better.

  • Comment number 87.

    Can we have an outing for the Six O'clock Fox.....I miss him. You know the one that we witnessed for years and years every time fox hunting was on the news we got graphic film of a fox being torn apart by hounds. This piece of propaganda was never off our screens.

    So if you really want children taught about the effects of abortion will you try the same Foxy tactics.....but showing the SPUC anti-abortion video instead......

    Thought not.

  • Comment number 88.

    It does seem strange to me that a Cardiff based audience would debate over the personal lives players who represent a team in which in football terms is another country. What about our own national teams, how about Andy Powell's golf buggy incident? Thats no disrespect to the English, I think the London based UK media as a whole is to blame, too much reporting on England rather than the other UK national teams. Its a sad thing is here in Wales more people can identify the England squad rather than our own players. Next wednesday most pubs across Wales will be showing the England v Egypt match rather than the Wales v Sweden match. Sad but true!

  • Comment number 89.

    Was Ed Balls right to amend the Children's, Schools & Families Bill to allow faith schools to teach sex education in a way that reflects their beliefs?

    No he was NOT! I went to a catholic school like two of the audience and one said the bike shed and the other said a black and white film about rabbits. I am younger than them (by a mile) and we had nothing special apart from a 15 minute drawing of a funny looking mans manhood and told that it was a sin to use a condom.... very practical. All the opt out will do will allow schools like catholic schools to teach sex education down the lines of no problems and if one gets pregnant it must be the 'emasculate conception'. All this from a committed dissident catholic.... !

  • Comment number 90.

    Regarding the European Union - Farage is the pen _ or rather mouth - that is left, now that there is no sword of British sovereignty.

    And we weren't even asked.

    The Welsh and Scots don't care. Their role will be even lower than the PIIGS nations once we are all assimilated into Europe - but at least it won't be 'TheEnglish' (sic) in charge of them. Better the hard place than the rock, eh?

  • Comment number 91.

    Janet Street-Porter had plenty to say about the evil and danger of bullies - and then spent the rest of the programme bullying, first Peter Hain when defending Gordon Brown, and then really exercised her vocal chords on the stentorious haranguing of UKIP's Nigel Farage for describing our unelected EU President to a 'T'. Will she never learn a little control and decorum?

  • Comment number 92.

    The sex education policy by Ed Balls was completely ruined by changing it for faith schools, I was amazed that all the panel agreed with it! Ed balls has now made a mockery of the sex ed policy, eg I can just see the Catholic schools teaching about condom use, NOT!

    The sooner we get rid of faith schools the better for everyone!

  • Comment number 93.

    I couldn't go to bed without saying, as a woman who's 1/2 welsh I commend and support John Terry as a footballer. Personal lives and football abilities should be kept separate clearly! I'm not sorry that Wayne Bridge has dropped out of the England team because he wouldn't get a spot anyway.

  • Comment number 94.

    The logic of the Labour party.

    Catholic school - this is abortion children... by the way, abortion is murder.

    Muslim school - homosexuality exists.... homosexuality is punishable by death under Shariah, which we are all aiming for...

    Church of England school... Erm, let's do as we are told.

    Jewish school... you get the point.

    Bravo.

  • Comment number 95.


    Please would the producer of QT stop trying to be trendy, with-it, avant-garde, popular, edgy, populist, etc.

    We have still not forgotten the Transvestite Potter that you put on the panel, nor all the so-called "personalities" you have foisted upon us from the fields of sport or entertainment, few of whom have had any knowledge of the issues of the day and even less political awareness.

    The programme is far too important to mess around with like this. As an institution of proven effectiveness for calling our disgraceful politicians to account it is almost as important as PMQ's

    Now your latest jolly wheeze, we learn, is to celebrate Women's Week by excluding men from the audience! This is gesture politics of the most pathetic kind. Your gesture will do nothing positive for the broadcast, and it is frankly insulting to all women and to all the followers of this programme.

    Please start treating all of us - man and women equally - as intelligent adults with some political savvy.

  • Comment number 96.

    The continuous rise in teenage pregnancies, abortions and STD's has little to do with approaches to sex education and EVERYTHING to do with the Social Security policies of the UK, where young people know that if they have a child, the father doesn't have to worry about providing for it, and the mother will get herself a house and benefits paid for by the tax payer, so they won't have to get on that tiresome treadmill of having to pay their own way through life.

  • Comment number 97.

    The panel's universal deference to the religious lobby dismayed me.

    So, parents of faith schools can withdraw their children from sex education lessons before they reach the age of 15, which is precisely when they need it (ref under-age pregnancy statistics), but I, as an atheist cannot withdraw my children from RE, which they will never need! Utterly ridiculous inversion of priorities.

    All schools should teach the facts of sexual activity, particularly the options for contraception, without any moral judgement. It is an undeniable fact that a proportion of the pupils in these classes will turn out to be homosexual. They need to be educated about safe sex, without being made to feel that they are morally repugnant - talk about bullying!

    With regard to abortion. Abortion is an emotive subject, but it is legal in the UK, within clearly defined limits. Those who are absolutely opposed to abortion should explain the limits of legal availability, but should strongly support contraception as a means preventing the need for abortion (as a means of retrospective contraception). They may continue their fight to have the abortion laws repealed if they feel so strongly about it.

    They are, of course, quite entitled to promote sexual abstinence as the only sure means of avoiding sexually transmitted infections and/or unwanted pregnancies.

    We cannot turn the clock back, post-pubescent people WILL have sex, even those with Roman Catholic parents, our duty is to minimise the risks to their physical and emotional health through objective and factual education.

  • Comment number 98.

    As a practising Christian, I was deeply offended with the panel's comments that to believe in Creation is balmy!I consider this to be totally racist against Cristians and their belief system. The fact the Evolution is called a theory is precisely because that is what it is .Unfortunately it is taught in our schools as fact. I strongly believe that it takes as much faith (if not more) to believe in the eternity of matter than the eternity of a god. According to the evolution theory fossil evidence should begin with less complex organisms and then develop to more complex. This is not what the fossil records show! They show both simple and complex organisms in the same layers of rock which is precisely what creation states.There is no and has never been to date any missing link found in the fossil records though there have been many hoaxes. If salt was going into the seas for millions of years then why are not all our seas like the dead sea?Dust settles on the moon and is not blown around like on earth because of the lack of atmosphere. If it has been settling there for millions of years then why didn't it pose a prblem when our astronauts landed on the moon. Did you know they expected to sink into the surface because of precisely this reason.I agree that neither side has all the answers Creation or Evolution but please don't preach it as if you do have all the answers and it is a fact and refer to people as balmy if they have a different point of view to you. I found your comments insensitive and offensive and to be honest I have now realised that It would be impossible for me to vote for people who have attacked my fundamental belief system so blatantly. Do you realise how difficult it is to hold to a faith in this country. You are victimising people for believing in something other than a central goverment's point of view and what an example you are setting for young Christians or other faiths. I wonder how long will it be before we will be openly presecuted as christians in this country. From tonight's comments I see that it is happening verbally already!

  • Comment number 99.

    I heard what Nigel said to the EU President and I found it an Ebarrassing to this country. Is this man insane? EU is to stop people who are devisive and prevent any future European war. By wisdom talk we live in peace,but foolish words may lead to war.

  • Comment number 100.

    Regarding the last comment - so much applause for people avoiding the question. The question was not, 'Should politicians have or have not a view on the morality of a situation...?'

    It was asking them for a view - in which they obfuscated, claimed that they should have no opinion at all and gave no view at all (except from Janet) - and Hain was caught out fibbing even on this question!

    In future we won't ask politicians any questions about anything other than politics, right?

 

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