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Mike Chappell quits hunger strike

Graham Smith | 15:31 UK time, Friday, 22 October 2010

Celtic League (Kernow) secretary Mike Chappell has given up his hunger strike after 11 days. He tells me he's lost a stone in weight and his belt now buckles eight holes tighter. Mike began his hunger strike in protest at government plans to abolish Cornwall's political boundary with Devon.

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  • Comment number 1.

    "Celtic League (Kernow) secretary Mike Chappell has given up his hunger strike after 11 days".

    No, not 11 days.

  • Comment number 2.

    8 days more like, nevertheless still a very foolhardy thing to attempt it may seem, but Mike knew all along at some time in the process of taking his own life he would be sectioned.



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  • Comment number 4.

    As a weight lifter I have often gone into ketosis for what we refer to as “cutting”, the first week of Ketosis is mostly water loss, meaning as soon you as you start eating the body quickly recovers, I have done 6 weeks of ketosis to lose a few percent of body fat, even if you believe Mike; which I do not. I assure everyone he was never in any danger, the only thing this prank has done is confirm how little support Mike has and that he is all talk

    Good to see you back YC, Slim, Andy n Peter, the intimidation of a few lost souls should not silence the majority.

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  • Comment number 11.

    All he has done is confirm what we knew about him already and no doubts has been hounding the moderators to get comments removed via the usual threats of legal action. I wonder why he is so afraid of people outside of C24?

  • Comment number 12.

    Mr. Tregantle, posts are only removed when they break House Rules. If you believe that Mr. Chapple, or anyone else, is abusing the system, then take it up with the moderators. If you are fed up with your posts being removed, then stop breaking House Rules.

  • Comment number 13.

    I agree with Peter it is pathetic that people have to hide behind censorship, to cover-up what the public think of these extremist antics and shenanigans. I read the comments over the weekend and they were only removed many hours later when Mikes bleating started in the bunker, so it is not hard to put two and two together. If people do not like comments others make they should say so here rather hiding away growing ever more extreme and dangerous, we now have a person planning on arresting the PM, how can we say anything pleasant about such madness?

    If people don't like being mocked, they should not do stupid things growing ever more extreme with each foolish plan, our duty is to ensure no others follow this guy and see it for what is, madness

  • Comment number 14.

    Believe it or not, it is possible to express your opinion without having to resort to insult, abuse, and "misinformation".
    Try it.

  • Comment number 15.

    Andrew
    If people don't like being mocked, they should not do stupid things growing ever more extreme with each foolish plan, our duty is to ensure no others follow this guy and see it for what is, madness

    Mocking is nothing more than a healthy sanity check and pointing at the elephant which is in the room. To be expected if you do stupid things in the eye of the media, it will not be the first time people have been drawn to do even more dangerous acts It should the duty of all responsible people to condemn this behaviour, rather as some do encourage it.

  • Comment number 16.

    In slaughter houses there used to be kept a "Judas goat". The Judas goat was well cared for and enjoyed a life of relative luxury.

    Its one job was to mingle with new arrivals, who were scared and shy, and blithely lead them into the slaughter pens, which they did with no fuss or worry, as the strong confident Judas goat would walk into the slaughter pens, with not a care in the world, ahead of them.

    Only the Judas goat would walk out again, unharmed and back to its life of luxury.

  • Comment number 17.

    I was chatting with Graham up at the 10 10 Rally and we had a right old laugh at some of the remarks posted on here by the 'tired few'. Tough luck guys, this is a cross party anti Devonwall Campaign, MK to UKIP, Labour, Lib Dem, Tory, independent et al. Good fun eh !
    Thsnks to those so concerned about my health. I went without food for 11 days and this was verified by an accompanying journo. On collapse and not wishing to be a burden on the NHS my German girldfriend who is a Nursing Sister as well as others recommended I stop and I did. Stomach ulcers enlivened by the whole affair though but I would do it again. Got a mention in the Westminster Gin Palace as well ! hey, my business interests are thriving and about to purchase even more residential property to let out to locals at an affordable rate. Annoying aren't I ?
    No sooner do some of your comments appear here than they seem to be removed. Funny old world isn't it ? Enjoy :-)

  • Comment number 18.

    It was "a fast" on another thread and "went without food" here?

    Not a "hunger-strike" then, Mr Chappell?

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  • Comment number 20.

    I like, "I went without food for 11 days and this was verified by an accompanying journo.",Peter

    "Verified by an accompanying journo."

    A contradiction in terms, if ever I heard one.






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  • Comment number 22.

    Mike as your mentor George Bush said – "You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”

    Who is using who? "C24"

  • Comment number 23.

    Love the comments kids ! Much prefer the fact that today I was able to provide paid employment at my business for three CORNISH people, to purchase a further property in order to provide affordable accommodation for CORNISH people and that our Radio Station into which I have invested and in particular my programme now has Media Degree Course students attached to further research CORNISH subjects for me. Get in my way and I shall knock you down. I am afraid you detractors remind me of flies squashed on my windscreen. BTW, I much enjoyed a delightful supper out this evening with my partner and a few friends and we toasted ourselves with CORNISH champagne. You people would never know the meaning of loyalty or passion hence you are doomed to failure. I make the news, you merely read it !

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  • Comment number 25.

    "Our Radio Station into which I have invested"?

    That makes this from a earlier comment much clearer.

    "As well as announcing on my own Radio Station"

    If you can't make the news, buy the means to do it.

    Financed by those dreadful English Imperialists, of course.



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  • Comment number 28.

    This, from the 38 Degrees website:

    "Mike Chappell

    I stand by and defy this Government - the Axis of Evil - with all my heart and soul and have hungered for eleven days before collapse so passionate do I feel about this matter."

    The man is beginning to believe his own propaganda.

  • Comment number 29.

    Holy men "fast", Mr Chappell.

    Political prisoners "go on hunger-strike".

    Children in Somalia "hunger" and "go without food"

    The words in quotes have all been used by you to describe your "stunt",(also used by you).

    Very emotive, words can be.

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  • Comment number 31.

    Slimslad - yes I know about words and motivation. Why not try to use a little passion to enlighten your own drone like postings. They have as much interest as a dead cat bounce.

    Don't forget listen in to my radio programme. I'll give all the kids who post here a special Mike Chappell welcome next week !

    http://www.celticpatriot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=3

  • Comment number 32.

    Seems to me that Mike Chappell did something that you all seem to be afraid to do. He stood up for what he believes in, some body builder above says he doubts Mike lost a stone in weight, I assure you in my job I can lose half a stone in a shift, I also used to lose several pounds in a rugby match, 11 days without food would easily see the loss of a stone.
    It takes a brave man to stand above the crowd and be counted, I don't see any of you doing it, armchair generals.
    Onen hag Oll!!

  • Comment number 33.

    I pity you detractors, you cheapen yourselves sniping at a brave man who did more than just comment online about his feelings. He put his money where his mouth is and his life on the line.

    When Thích Quảng Đức immolated himself in Vietnam in 1963 it brought his cause into the international limelight and effected change.
    When the Irish prisoners went on hunger strike in 1981 their act radicalised national politics in Ireland and helped lead to Sinn Féin becoming a mainstream political party.

    Whatever your opinion of their politics hunger strikes and the like have been used over and over to effect real change and bring international attention to the plight of the oppressed or minorities.

    Mike's act was a statement to the world about the serious nature of the protest he was making. A hunger strike doesn't have to end in death to have an impact. Your making light of Mike's strike is more an indication of your anti-Cornish bias than a comment on the serious and brave nature of what Mike did.

  • Comment number 34.

    You are actually equating a monk setting fire to himself to Mr Chappell going without pasties for a week?.

    Then qualifying that comparison by saying ,"A hunger strike doesn't have to end in death to have an impact."?

    The word "sycophant" comes to mind.

  • Comment number 35.

    "I pity you detractors"

    I think you will find it is us showing pity on group who pretend to represent Cornish values but in truth are to Cornwall what the IRA are to Ireland. We represent the vast majority, you and mike represent a percent much smaller than 1%. That is an absolute fact, thus there is nothing to detract, you are not a threat.

  • Comment number 36.

    "Why not try to use a little passion to enlighten your own drone like postings. They have as much interest as a dead cat bounce."

    If I did that, Mr Chappell, I would be threatened with the Brief of Bodmin.

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  • Comment number 38.

    Some notable differences worthy of expounding.

    Thích Quảng Đức burned himself to death for his cause. Chappell claimed; "At 10am on 10 October 2010 I commenced a hunger strike and am prepared to go the whole way. I shall not eat until this outrageous proposal is withdrawn," but backed out after 9 days.

    Bobby Sands (who was elected to parliament by the Irish, therefore demonstrating some support for him and his cause)died in the prison hospital on the sixty-sixth day of his hunger strike. Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh and Patsy O’Hara died after even longer periods on hunger strike. Other Irish hunger strikers lasted for up to 55 days, but went into comas.

    Which makes Chappell's efforts insulting to the Irish, and farcical to the Cornish.

  • Comment number 39.

    @Slimslad "You are actually equating a monk setting fire to himself to Mr Chappell going without pasties for a week?."

    The point was that people risking their lives and in some case losing them has been effective in the past. There have been plenty of hunger strikes that had the desired effect without ending in death. Thích Quảng Đức chose a method of protest that ensured his life would be over for definite and in a short space of time...hunger strikers choose a slower method which arguably gives more time/opportunity for it to make an impact in the press and politics and doesn't have to end in death and it quite often hasn't. There were survivors of the 1981 hunger strike by Irish prisoners but it still had it's effect.

    And calling me a sycophant is just another obvious attempt at belittling what we are actually talking about by trying to suggest that my serious opinion is just self-serving flattery. It's people like you who don't take people seriously if you happen not to agree with them that make drastic action necessary.

  • Comment number 40.

    "There were survivors of the 1981 hunger strike by Irish prisoners but it still had it's effect."

    Really?

    We all know about Bobby Sands, but can you name one hunger-strike survivor, off the top of your head?

    Even Mr Chappell has now refrained from calling his "stunt",(his word), a "hunger-strike".

    As far as "sychophant" goes?

    You judge.

    "He put his money where his mouth is and his life on the line."

    What has "money" got to do with it and his life was never "on the line"?




  • Comment number 41.

    @Slimslad:

    Brendan McLaughlin
    Paddy Quinn
    Laurence McKeown
    Pat McGeown
    Matt Devlin
    Liam McCloskey
    Patrick Sheehan
    Jackie McMullan
    Bernard Fox
    Hugh Carville
    John Pickering
    Gerard Hodgkins
    James Devine

    But the survival of these particular men on this particular strike is not the real point. Just that fact that there have been survivors on a number of hunger strikes that still met with a degree of success.

    "Money where his mouth is" is a cliche phrase I was employing that is commonly known to mean "to do something rather than to just talk about it" you are just being facetious.

  • Comment number 42.

    Can I please point out that the Race relations act and Equality act of 2010 could well have been breached by certain comments on this forum and that certain people need to be warned of breaching these criminal offences, I am surprised the BBC allowed these to remain for so long and not warned the person making them (#23).

  • Comment number 43.

    "to do something rather than to just talk about it"

    "Do" just what,Fooboo?

    Mr Chappell is fast becoming a "loose cannon" as far as being a self-publicising "legend" is concerned.
    "Drastic action" equates to ripping up his television licence and "fasting/going without food" for just over a week(if indeed this happened).
    What has actually happened as a result of this "drastic action"?

    Nothing.

  • Comment number 44.

    Peter an update for you on the hundred plus blog

  • Comment number 45.

    @Slimslad - to "do" as in to take action rather than talk about taking action. He did go without food at risk to his health in an attempt to bring attention to his cause and to highlight how serious he is about it.

    Whether or not an action precipitates the desired response does not stop it being an action, that is what he "did".

    Mike ended his strike/fast, whatever you want to call it (the length of time doesn't effect whether or not it was a strike), when it became medically dangerous - that is drastic in my opinion. Harming your health is hardly the same as just pontificating. Again it is common for hunger strikes to be stopped by friends, relatives, or the state. Mike was strongly effected by his actions, it effected his vision, ability to grip, lucidity - the normal sort of things you'd expect from going without food for longer then the body can easily cope with.

  • Comment number 46.

    " Mike ended his strike/fast, whatever you want to call it"

    Not "whatever I want to call it", Fooboo.

    Mr Chappell has stepped back from his well-quoted "hunger-strike" to "going without food" to "hungered" to "fast"
    Another word he used to describe the above was "stunt".

  • Comment number 47.

    @Slimslad arguably different ways of describing the same thing. On a hunger strike you go without food which is a fast.

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  • Comment number 49.

    I live in the USA. I've heard of, and actively support, Mike Chappell's protests against the "Devonwall" district. I have heard from others in the USA, Canada and Australia who feel the same. Mike's hunger strike generated enough publicity to make many aware, both in Britain (including in Parliament) and across the world, of the unfairness of the Devonwall proposal and of England's treatment of Cornwall. Mike is alive and well and thriving. The Devonwall proposal is likely to be defeated.
    Some in this forum have used words like "failure" and "futility" to describe Mike's efforts. Let me ask this- does the above paragraph seem to be describing failure? Also- whoever you are, I've never heard of you. Nor, probably, has anyone in canada or Australia. You are nothing but mumblers in the crowd, like those who saw Jesus carrying his cross and said "Look- he's taking this too far. He shouldn't be so extreme. He's mad and dangerous." You're just the dead weight that drags a society down. Hush up.

  • Comment number 50.

    The states funded the IRA if memory serves me correct!

  • Comment number 51.

    It would seem the Irish league have sent out distress flares and are directing moaners from around the globe here, I am sure Graham is honoured to have such a following, none of which counts for much locally as this is an English issue, Yanks do not vote in British elections or have to tolerate Mikes antics

  • Comment number 52.

    English, or British Mr. Jacks?
    I would agree that it is a British issue, but the whole point of all that has been happening, all that has been said, is that it is most definitely NOT an English one.

  • Comment number 53.

    @Andrew Jacks - "moaners"? Is it your intention to state that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moaner but anyone who does and uses the same medium as the moaners to express their support is not moaning but raising valid points?

    Bringing an issue to a global audience can, and has in the past, added pressure or weight to an issue. Politics is a global thing, you simply can't contain it to an area that suits you.

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  • Comment number 55.

    "Hush up"?

    I have heard Jim Wearne sing.

    Perhaps he could take his own advice.



  • Comment number 56.

    "Is it your intention to state that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a moaner"?

    Is it your intention to press the "complain about this comment" tab every time someone disagrees with you,Fooboo?

  • Comment number 57.

    Mr. Jacks-
    If you are refering to me when you mention "moaners from around the globe," let me set you straight. The idea that somehow I am under the control of something you call the "Irish league" is ridiculous. I have never heard of such an organization. I am not directed in this matter by anyone but myself. Furthermore, my name, Wearne, is not an Irish name but a Cornish one.
    Don't underestimate the value of support from abroad. Europe and other international bodies including the UN have a more enlightened view of Cornwall and the Cornish than many English people and certainly than the English Government.
    Also - even a "Yank" knows the difference between "English" and "British." The English will do well to learn the difference and stop using the words synonymously.

  • Comment number 58.

    @Slimslad "Is it your intention to press the "complain about this comment" tab every time someone disagrees with you,Fooboo?"

    No and neither have I done so. You are welcome to disagree with me. I only complain when people are unnecessarily offensive or resort to generalisations about groups of people. I've only ever pressed the complaint button once on this site.

  • Comment number 59.

    Don't underestimate the value of support from abroad.

    Is'nt it called friendly fire!

  • Comment number 60.

    Jim Wearne can I, politely, ask why you as an American are concerned by the adjustment of the borders of the political constituencies of South East Cornwall, North Cornwall, Torridge and Plymouth Moor View?

    This is being done to cut back on the number of MP's in the country, and in no way affects the geographical boundaries of the counties of Devon and Cornwall .

    I was under the impression that "smaller governement" was an idea which was supported in the US.

  • Comment number 61.

    Why reason with a yank? People are correct to point our this has nothing to do with them and the only reason a comment was made is Mikes behaviour and rants behind the scenes

    http://www.cornwall24.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5932

    "…..Saltashgaz, Young Cornwall, Petertregantle (who caused the closure of the TiC forum) and all their various incarnations. I love the way they quote from here as though this site were evidence of some sort…."

    Reading the forum will show you kbcl1 is mike, this is what Mike is like, encouraging people to fight other forum members

  • Comment number 62.

    How are you finding it, Fooboo?

    Out in the real World?

    Away from the somewhat rarified atmosphere of Planet C24?
    A little-known planet of misty outlook and ancient rites.
    Inhabited by embittered and thwarted elderly men, with red faces.

  • Comment number 63.

    @Slimslad - I'm 35...while I feel like an old git I'd hardly say I was an elderly man and I don't have a red face...lol

    fooboo can be found in many places on the web, doesn't take much research to find me :P

  • Comment number 64.

    Dave the Rave-
    Thank you for asking.
    As do many Americans, I feel a great connection to the place where my forbears originated. The large proportion of my ancestors, therefore also my genetic material, came from Kernow. Physically, I am as Cornish as many who live there. It may be hard for those who are still living in “the Old Country,” whether that is Cornwall, France, England or China to understand the very common tendency of Americans to identify themselves as “hyphenated,” such as Irish-American, German-American or, of course, Cornish-American.
    More specifically, I resent the attitude that many English people hold toward Cornwall and the Cornish. Even had I no Cornish ancestors, the crimes and misdemeanors committed by England against Cornwall over the centuries would bother me. Even more, the dismissive, condescending and superior way many English people treat the Cornish sticks, as we say, in my craw. It reminds me of the way many English people treat “Yanks.”
    The size of government is an issue, I acknowledge. More important, however, is the willingness of a government to serve the will of the people. This “Devonwall” district is wanted, it seems, by no one affected by it on either side of the Tamar. Americans tend to resent governments that rule rather than serve.
    If the question of Cornwall – its status as a Duchy not a County, its dignity as the homeland of a Celtic people, its right to self-rule, its separateness from the country of England – were being debated and decided in a respectful, dignified way, I would simply observe and hope for a good result. It is the ill-will, callousness and imperialistic attitude on the part of many English and of the English government toward Cornwall and the Cornish people that make me angry enough to speak out. Thanks again for asking.

  • Comment number 65.

    "...Away from the somewhat rarified atmosphere of Planet C24?
    A little-known planet of misty outlook and ancient rites...."

    Like all planets in the universe inhabited with rare bacteria waiting to evolve. A sense of humour would not go a miss

  • Comment number 66.

    "Like all planets in the universe inhabited with rare bacteria waiting to evolve. A sense of humour would not go a miss"

    And like those observing distant planets you've no real idea of what you are looking at and are bound to get it wrong with you first few theories at least.

  • Comment number 67.

    Say no more

  • Comment number 68.

    Thanks for the polite reply Jim.

    However, you have fallen into the same way of thinking that others have, that is to say you believe your belief to be the right way for Cornwall, and use it to act against, the wishes of the vast majority of us Cornish.

    We, the majority, like to think of ourselves as Cornish AND English.

    We do not want a separate Cornwall. We do not want a Cornish assembly.

    We do not want Mebyon Kernow to represent us.

    We do not support Chappell, only 300 people turned up, even though it was publicised in the local papers, and heralded by the nationalists as a turning point.

    We did not support the "Cornish Fighting Fund" we do not turn up to embarrass ourselves like that poor lad who turned up to support Leamon, and who was the ONLY person to turn up.

    We did not support Paddy Trembath's "rally for recognition," which never never even got off the ground.

    We do not support the nationalist cause as we see it as damaging to Cornwall's interests.

    We enjoy being part of England and the UK, we see it in our interest to be so.


    So if you have a genuine affectation for Cornwall, and I have no reason to believe you do not, then join with us the actuall Cornish people. Not with the scant handful of nationalists, who are just trouble makers.

  • Comment number 69.

    "As do many Americans, I feel a great connection to the place where my forbears originated."

    That can be very nice, giving an individual a "sense of place",of "belonging" Mr Wearne.

    It can also become quite sentimental,and the danger of that is that your idea of what Cornwall is can be a long way from reality .

    Some Irish/Americans were,(and still are, as Mr Chappell will tell you), very active in raising money to "free" Ireland from the "grip of British Imperialism". The fact that at least some of this money was alleged to have been used to buy arms and explosives for Republican terrorists still rankles with the general public here.

    Please do not go "misty-eyed" on us, Mr Wearne.

    The so-called "Devonwall" proposal,(and still only a proposal)is the possibility, after 2013 that a Parliamentary boundary, (similar to a Congressman's District, I would imagine?), may be changed to include some parts of another Constituency.
    Cornwall will remain Cornwall. Devon will remain Devon.

  • Comment number 70.

    Dave the rave
    “We did not support Paddy Trembath's "rally for recognition," which never never even got off the ground”

    Or these which are facts, have a little read.

    http://www.campaignkernow.com/

    http://www.cornishfightingfund.org/

  • Comment number 71.

    That is very well said “Dave the rave” and let us not forget the majority who turned up at the rally were not nationalist and very English, it the English bashing which upsets the majority, as you said we celebrate being both English and Cornish.

  • Comment number 72.

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  • Comment number 73.

    Can I please point out that the Race relations act and Equality act of 2010 could well have been breached by certain comments on this forum and that certain people need to be warned of breaching these criminal offences, I am surprised the BBC allowed these to remain for so long and not warned the person making them ...........

    Why reason with a yank? People are correct to point our this has nothing to do with them and the only reason a comment was made is Mikes behaviour and rants behind the scenes.......Peter Tregantle your a bigger bigot than Mike could ever be. Cornwall for the Cornish, Cornish jobs for the Cornish, Cornwall's borders must not be breached..........report me too please

  • Comment number 74.

    Jim Wearne wrote:
    More specifically, I resent the attitude that many English people hold toward Cornwall and the Cornish.

    A link please or something to substantiate this comment would be very much appreciated, let us try to understand where this resentment of yours coming from.


  • Comment number 75.

    "Even had I no Cornish ancestors, the crimes and misdemeanours committed by England against Cornwall over the centuries would bother me."

    I wonder,(if you are not too busy), if you could list the "crimes and misdemeanours committed by England against Cornwall over the centuries"?



  • Comment number 76.

    @ Dave the rave, you are making the same basic error that you claim the nationalists make. It is not "we" that do not........, but it is you that do not.....
    Also, the 300 that you claim, was, according to the press, more like 500, and it was nothing to do with Mr. Chappell, who was merely one of the many supporters of the protest that turned up.
    At the end of the day, you are trying too hard to discredit a movement that is gaining ground every day. In fact, the abuse that pours forth from some of your fellow detractors, is actually turning more and more people towards that movement, Thank you!

  • Comment number 77.

    I wonder,(if you are not too busy), if you could list the "crimes and misdemeanours committed by England against Cornwall over the centuries"?

    Ok, seems my last post hasn't past by the moderator, so I'll try again:
    Crimes:
    A) 900+ Cornish POW's executed Clyst St Mary, Exeter 1549
    B) Consequent invasion killed 10-12% of population
    C) The theft of Cornwall's natural resources worth an estimated 240 billion,Cornish Tin and Copper were taxed at foreign rates unlike Devon,why? If not a foreign nation...
    D)The constant presence of the Crown within Cornwall, even though this is against the Duchy charters, let alone the Kilbran report of 1969-71
    these are just a few crimes
    Misdemeanors:...spelt correctly
    A)The gradual removal of Cornish borderline from maps
    B)The constant presence of 'English' Heritage
    C)The refusal of 'English' Heritage to recognise sights of significant battles between the nations
    Again just a few....

  • Comment number 78.

    We can all pick bits out of history to suit our each individual argument, just as those who preach the denial of the Holocaust for their own ends, and that is in living memory.



  • Comment number 79.

    "A) 900+ Cornish POW's executed Clyst St Mary, Exeter 1549
    B) Consequent invasion killed 10-12% of population.

    The "theft of resources" is, of course, pure nonsense.
    A lot of Cornish people became very rich from mining.

  • Comment number 80.

    Since you seem so fussy about things being spelt,(sic), correctly,Rialobran,(even though the post was not meant for you).

    It is the Kilbrandon Report.

    Not the "Kilbran"

  • Comment number 81.

    It is the Kilbrandon Report.

    Not the "Kilbran"......quite right, my mistake.And my mining family certainly made no money from mining, but the English landlords certainly did.

    We can all pick bits out of history to suit our each individual argument, just as those who preach the denial of the Holocaust for their own ends, and that is in living memory........the question was to name crimes against Cornwall, these are war crimes, or are you so into EDL policy you can't see this

  • Comment number 82.

    Of course,, Rialobran,if you are American, then you would spell it as "misdemeanors".

    Not in England, of course.

  • Comment number 83.

    And...

    If you are American.

    It is a bit of a cheek accusing others of the "theft of natural resources"
    Ask any native American.
    Or Iraqi.

  • Comment number 84.

    "Are you so into EDL policy you can't see this"?
    I take it you mean English Defence League?

    Do they actually have a "policy"?

    They are a bunch of fascists, in my opinion.


    They are no more representative of what it is to be English than the Celtic League is representative of what it is to be Irish.

  • Comment number 85.

    Slimslad old boy, are you incapable of collecting all your thoughts into one post, instead of this incessant "drip feed". Your coming across as a a nagging wife!

  • Comment number 86.

    Smug comments are not worth replying to Slimslad, they are only out to discredit this blog.

  • Comment number 87.

    No bother at all, youngcornwall.
    We all know who presses the "complain about this comment" button.

    "Enraged of C24"

  • Comment number 88.

    Slimslad....I am neither American nor am I English, I am Cornish, proud to be so. The EDL reference was not generated towards you but to youngcornwall, who it seems does not deny this.
    Cornish nationalism is not truly in the minority, when travelling Cornwall the Blood Cross and the Butchers Apron are not seen in any great numbers, whereas the St Pirans flag is flown on its own in every town and village. (Unlike Devon where their flag flies alongside the Cross and Apron), this is a sign that, whether or not people are vocal, they are supporting nationalism in Cornwall.

  • Comment number 89.

    It must be awful for these Cornish "Celts", I have to say.
    They see Wales with an Assembly. Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Isle of Man with Parliaments.
    What do they have?
    A dozen disgruntled, bearded blokes, meeting at an old school in Redruth.

  • Comment number 90.

    The terms "Blood Cross" and "Butchers,(sic), Apron" says a lot about how narrow-minded people can be.
    Tell a relative of one of the victims of a bomb in Afghanistan that their child's coffin is covered in a "Butchers,(sic) Apron".
    St Pirans,(sic), flag is a recent addition to Cornwall as a County flag.

  • Comment number 91.

    A nice County flag.

    http://tiny.cc/qbx5z

  • Comment number 92.

    Slimslad, your ignorance is beyond belief, if you seriously believe that' a dozen bearded blokes meeting at an old school in Redruth' are the only nationalist in Cornwall, as for the other part of your comment, what the hell do you think we are campaigning for? Recognition!!
    Cornwall for the Cornish and those who wish to embrace our culture, not incomers who wish to impose their narrow minds on us! Like you!

  • Comment number 93.

    youngcornwall wrote:-
    "Smug comments are not worth replying to Slimslad, they are only out to discredit this blog."

    I do apologise Carn Gloose, I had forgotten you have no sense of humor.

  • Comment number 94.

    "Cornwall for the Cornish and those who wish to embrace our culture, not incomers who wish to impose their narrow minds on us! Like you!"

    What about those who don't want to "embrace" your "culture"?
    Those who have a "culture" of their own, who wish to live in Cornwall?

    The mask has slipped there,Rialobran.

    Exposing you as just as racist as the E.D.L.

  • Comment number 95.

    When in Rome!

  • Comment number 96.

    The terms "Blood Cross" and "Butchers,(sic), Apron" says a lot about how narrow-minded people can be.
    Tell a relative of one of the victims of a bomb in Afghanistan that their child's coffin is covered in a "Butchers,(sic) Apron"
    .........should I die in my job they'll try the same on my coffin, narrow minded....really? My mother would rip it off I assure you. You should look into why it is called such.
    As for the 'county' flag nonsense, why would an 'English' county feel the need? Because we are NOT English!! All others are just copy catting, so don't try that argument.

  • Comment number 97.

    Slimslad
    What about those who don't want to "embrace" your "culture"?
    Those who have a "culture" of their own, who wish to live in Cornwall?

    I doubt if Mike Chappell will house them or give them a job

    “I EMPLOY ONLY CORNISH PEOPLE. I HOUSE ONLY CORNISH PEOPLE”.

  • Comment number 98.

    "As for the 'county' flag nonsense, why would an 'English' county feel the need? Because we are NOT English!! All others are just copy catting, so don't try that argument."

    Counties "feel the need" because some of the flags are more ancient than England, more ancient than Britain. They are proud of their history and heritage.

    How can any of these Counties "copy-cat" a 19th Century construct?

  • Comment number 99.

    What about those who don't want to "embrace" your "culture"?
    Those who have a "culture" of their own, who wish to live in Cornwall?

    The mask has slipped there,Rialobran.

    Exposing you as just as racist as the E.D.L.

    As far as I am concerned, please report me as a racist, the Axis of Evil wont touch me, to do that would mean being Cornish is being of another race, something they have so far been unwilling to do, because this is they're only reason for not giving us the recognition we crave, I would gladly stand before a court of law and defend my view. Nothing in the above statement is racist, no race was mentioned and if you do not wish to embrace our culture fine, do not ridicule it, as I will not ridicule Maypoles and Morrismen, cheese rolling and pearly kings and queens, cricket on the village green and cucumber sandwiches at 4pm, or curries and kebabs after a night on the beer.

  • Comment number 100.

    You said:

    "Cornwall for the Cornish and those who wish to embrace our culture, not incomers who wish to impose their narrow minds on us! Like you!"

    I asked you this question:

    "What about those who don't want to "embrace" your "culture"?
    Those who have a "culture" of their own, who wish to live in Cornwall?"

    Answer the question, please,Rialobran.

 

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