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Should England bid for Euro 2020?

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David Bond | 09:48 UK time, Wednesday, 13 June 2012

English football is still deeply scarred by its disastrous bid to stage the 2018 World Cup. So it is hardly a surprise that the Football Association is nervous about entering the race for Euro 2020.

But senior figures, both within the FA and the Government, are already starting to talk informally about whether the country should bid.

At the moment Turkey is the only candidate to formally state its desire to host Uefa's biggest event.

The situation is complicated by the fact that Istanbul now looks the overwhelming favourite to stage the 2020 Olympics in the same summer.

Tokyo is a long shot while the economic crisis in Spain looks to have ruined Madrid's chances.

Alan Shearer Euro 96

Alan Shearer celebrate's his second goal for England against Netherlands with team-mate Steve McManaman during Euro 96. Photo: Getty   

Should Istanbul win - and leading voices in the International Olympic Committee are already talking up the merits of taking the Games to a city which bridges the Middle East and Europe - then that would force Turkey to forego the European Championship. Faced with such uncertainty, Uefa has now reopened the bidding process.

The exact timetable will be decided at a meeting of the European governing body's executive committee here in Kiev on 29-30 June, just before the Euro 2012 final on 1 July. So far only Georgia and a joint bid from Wales, the Republic of Ireland and Scotland have emerged as potential new candidates.

However, with the final decision not likely to be taken until December 2013 other countries do have some time to enter the contest. The FA chairman David Bernstein has mixed feelings on the possibility of an English bid. On the one hand, staging Euro 2020 would be a more than respectable consolation prize after failing to secure the 2018 World Cup.

All the work done for that campaign could simply be adapted and there are no doubts within the FA and Government that England would stage a brilliant tournament. While England's transport system often leaves a lot to be desired, after all the problems associated with Euro 2012 Uefa will also no doubt see the merits of going back to a country with modern infrastructure.

With France staging Euro 2016, they could also be attracted by back-to-back tournaments in two of their leading commercial markets. The flip side to that for the FA and the authorities is the damage another defeat would do to England's reputation and standing in world football.

Bernstein is still trying to repair the damage done to England's international relations following the 2010 Fifa vote which saw the bid receive just two votes. He doesn't want to do anything which exposes the national game and the country to another embarrassing failure.

So he is now trying to seek assurances from leaders in Uefa, including the president Michel Platini, that if England were to bid they would stand a realistic chance of landing the event.

Last week, before the opening game of Euro 2010, Bernstein travelled to Warsaw for meetings with senior Uefa figures including Spain's executive committee member Angel Maria Villar Llona. Villar Llona is also a member of the Fifa executive and he was critical of Bernstein's decision to call for a postponement of Sepp Blatter's presidential re-election last year.

Bernstein feels that relationship has now been repaired but he will have to build bridges with a number of other leading officials who double up on the Fifa and Uefa executives - men like Senes Erzik of Turkey and Marios Lefkaritis of Cyprus who didn't vote for England.

Ultimately Platini is the key figure in this. When I interviewed him two days before the tournament and asked whether he would welcome a bid from England he was extremely lukewarm, saying only that the vote would now be open to everyone.

He added pointedly that if England want to stage the Euros they have to convince people to vote for them. One might have expected him to encourage as many bidders to come forward, but he was hardly enthusiastic.

The other consideration is whether another major country such as Germany or Spain might be interested. Germany, successful hosts of the 2006 World Cup, has not staged the Euros since West Germany in 1988.

Spain, meanwhile has not held them since 1964 but the financial situation there might dissuade them. The presence of the "Celtic" bid could also be a complicating factor although combining some of the best Scottish, Welsh and Irish cities and stadia might be an option.

The Government's primary consideration at the moment is not to enter the contest until Turkey withdraw. The Foreign Office has prioritised economic and diplomatic relations with Turkey so the FA will have to wait until the situation with Istanbul's bid for the 2020 Olympics becomes clearer before showing its hand.

The vote is not due to take place until the IOC Session in Buenos Aries in September next year. That would be way too late for Uefa which will want expressions of interest by the end of this year at the latest.

So far the issue has not formally been tabled at the FA board but a very early discussion is understood to have taken place. Some members are believed to be enthusiastic, with the view that Turkey's withdrawal could make it a very open race.

But the shadow of the 2018 World Cup looms large. England and the FA will be seeking as many guarantees as possible before making the leap.

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    I say NO, stuff UEFA and Platini let them find some other mugs then perhaps they will realise how much better England is at organising events.

  • Comment number 2.

    FIFA and UEFA should be building bridges with us, not the other way around! Until it's very clear radical reforms are pushed through and until FIFA and UEFA investigate their past as well as implementing changes for their future, the FA should steer clear and focus their resources on St George's Park.

  • Comment number 3.

    Nope.

  • Comment number 4.

    It's a no from me.

  • Comment number 5.

    England's image abroad is worryingly average. If that.
    The World Cup bid showed that we are not popular globally. Even Eurovision highlights the issue! We insist on being the awkward, separate, island that deserves everything and it just makes us look petty.
    The Jubilee celebrations were really special but underneath it you still sense an atmosphere of superiority amongst us Brits.
    I'd love big events like the Euros to be held here again. So would the public.
    Let's start getting on with more people and stop being awkward/scared/arrogant.
    Enter a bid. The infrastructure would be in place from the Olympics anyway.

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  • Comment number 7.

    An Ireland & Scotland bid might work. And Scotland would qualify!!! England? not a chance, Blatter & Platini do not like us or our press.

  • Comment number 8.

    Can't believe the BBC is even asking this question. Obviously NO! Let Uefa / Fifa give their tournaments to whoever pays them. After the last debacle, it would just be another huge waste of our money. Let Georgia have it (if not Turkey, who actually deserve it), at least it'd be a laugh seeing Uefa sweat over the infrastructure!

  • Comment number 9.

    @6 and presumably we should then stop entering the Euros and WC's? Where does it end?
    I agree about the corruption, but if we withdraw from EUFA and FIFA, we'll be the ones who suffer. Something should be done definitely, but at the expense of our participation in world football competitions? I'm not sure.
    Independent Review would be great, but who's going to set that up?

  • Comment number 10.

    Not until Platini and Blatter are gone. They both hate England (and in the case of Blatter it seems he actually hates football) so we'll never host anything whilst those two remain in power.

    Fifa needs radical reforms, starting with limiting the number of terms one one person can hold the presidency for.

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  • Comment number 12.

    Far be it from me to question the your high journalistic quality David but Scotland/Ireland are with Turkey the only ones to express interest as hosts for 2020. Are you sure you work for the B-B-C?

    Platini has already said that he favours a Turkish bid. It will go to them and the Celtic nations will drop out at the next stage. Unlike England, the smaller nations across really do get very little UEFA prestige events

  • Comment number 13.

    Let us home the London 2012 Olympic Games can perhaps sway them. I do not think there is any doubt that in terms of infrastructure and capacity the Premier League has a strong portfolio of stadia. Any realistic reasons for not giving it to us would be subjective i.e. the effect on competitive economies and international opinion.

  • Comment number 14.

    I really don't see why the FA should put themselves though the administrative/political nightmare when UEFA are lukewarm to us being involved. Unless, UEFA can show signs that they are providing an olive branch, why would the FA want to be put in that embarrassing position again. Mr Platini - over to you!

  • Comment number 15.

    It's bad enough with co-hosts getting two free spots in a 16 team competition. How is the Celtic bid going to work with three teams getting a bye to the tournament finals when - and I mean this with total respect - they are not nations that have been regular qualifiers for finals in recent years? There's some talk about expanding the Euros to 24 teams - this would become a must if they are to avoid some very good teams (and perhaps England - baboom tss!) missing out at the expense of Scotland, Ireland, Wales due to the Celtic bid.

  • Comment number 16.

    They both hate England (and in the case of Blatter it seems he actually hates football) so we'll never host anything whilst those two remain in power.
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  • Comment number 17.

    Maybe they should invite the USA as a guest competitor and hold it in the USA...lol

  • Comment number 18.

    I don't care about hosting the Euros.

    England have some of the best infrastructure, facilities and grounds in Europe if not the world.

    It is a shame that we have not had a world cup since 66 but a travesty that it is likely we will not get a world cup in the next 30 years. The smaller competition of the Euros is not a consolation in my opinion.

  • Comment number 19.

    I am a "No" too. We submitted an aparently excellent bid for the 2018 WC only to be usurped by Russia, with all the suspicion of corruption and political undertones associated with the bid process. Lets face it England are disliked at best and dare I say despised by some in FIFA / UEFA. They would no doubt delight in snubbing an England bid again, despite the fact that all the infrastructure is already in place, post Olympics 2012

  • Comment number 20.

    After the world cup vote debacle I don't believe England should open itself up to the same kind of embarrassment again. However, Platini has already been left with a lasting impression of european competition in England after the Champions League Final in 2011. This was an occasion he was so impressed with UEFA immediately awarded Wembley the final again in 2013 and even toyed with the idea of having it the permanently or at least once every 2 years. I believe a bid from England has the potential for good support but I would definitely be very reluctant without further assurance.

  • Comment number 21.

    I think we should stay well clear of bidding again. Work out the cost of what would be spent during the bidding process and reinvest that into the game internally in some way. Contribute to the redevelopment and rebirth of the game in this country so that by 2020 we can go there as one of the strongest national teams and confidently compete to win.

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  • Comment number 23.

    Personally if I was the English FA i would look at how much money was essentially thrown down the drain at their efforts for their last bid and really look at whether or not its worth it. England has to remember they have the Olympics this year, then 2015 they host the Rugby World Cup so it may be a bit of a push to get it. As a welshman id love to see the Celtic bid suceed so I can see my national team compete in the Euros but personally 3 nations is too far imo. It'd be great to have a major tournament shared between them, and great if England could get the Euros since any and all events such as the Olympics, RWC, and football Euros and WC's are exciting

  • Comment number 24.

    @9

    Allan (6th post) didnt say anything about not participating in the tournaments or pulling out of UEFA/FIFA. He simply said england shouldnt bid/host another tournament until something is done which is a totally different argument.

    I dont think anyone would even dream of actually pulling out the federation. Please read comments before disapproving of them.

  • Comment number 25.

    The blog has obviously missed out on the news that only Turkey and Scotland/Ireland have expressed interest in 2020.

    How can a BBC journalist not know this?

    Platini has already expressed a desire for a successful Turkish bid.

  • Comment number 26.

    The idea that you only want to bid if you get a nod that you will win is surely more corruption.

    "The flip side to that for the FA and the authorities is the damage another defeat would do to England's reputation and standing in world football."

    What reputation? What standing? We got 2 votes so had no standing and no reputation. How did a failed bid damage anything? I think the real anger at the World Cup decision was the amount of money they wasted on preparing the bid. It somehow cost us £21million!!! But I guess our "gifts" of expensive designer handbags to FIFA committee members wives weren't cheap and weren't as expensive as the "gifts" from Russia.

    At the end of the day the flat earthers wouldn't want a tournament held outside the major European countries (which apparently don't have thugs who beat rival fans and racially abuse players). They were wrong about South Africa and South Korea and they are being proved wrong in Poland the Ukraine.

  • Comment number 27.

    @5, Spot on.
    The English have a ridiculous sense of entitlement as seen in the comments above. Not everything is a massive FIFA/UEFA conspiracy to bring down the country which has dominated world football without coming close to winning a tournament for almost 50 years..

    The English cannot abide being thought of as just another country.
    Loot at Turkey, denied three times in a row and still back for more, England lose out once and throw their toys out of the pram. Pathetic.

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  • Comment number 29.

    So with the general view being a hugely one sided "NO" (so far), I suspect we can expect the announcement of their plan to bid for Euro2020 from the FA in a couple of days.

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  • Comment number 31.

    The FA's key objective must be to bring the World Cup tournament back to the UK.

    Hosting the Euro's, I suspect, will significantly delay or reduce our chances of hosting the World Cup in the foreseeable future.

    I suggest that the FA forget the Euro championships and focus on hosting the 2030 World Cup. This tournament will be celebrating its 100th year in 2030. The Olympics went to Greece on its 100th year anniversary. Surely the football 'purists' around the globe will not begrudge the birthplace/home of football from hosting the World Cup in its centenary year.

    We have plenty of time to repair 'burnt' bridges and make friends. Lets not loose focus of the great prize.

    Regrettably, we have to trust the FA not to mess things up!

  • Comment number 32.

    if the Celts were to be awarded the tournament, where would they play, the aviva, milenium, HP and the old firm. Swansea and cardiff are too small.

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  • Comment number 34.

    @15 i_got_worms

    There's not 'talk' of the euro's going to 24 teams, they are. As of France 2016 the Euro's will be a 24 team tournament so 3 host nations wouldn't alter the tournament much from 2012 right now. Although im not in total agreement of 3 host nations getting straight in it wouldnt matter all that much when we have 24 teams.

  • Comment number 35.

    I'd say no to the Euros.

    On a slightly related note, if they were English thugs attacking opposing fans, there'd be calls to have England ejected from the tournament. From reading reports and watching he news, they were co-ordinated attacks.

    How can this be left with no action being taken against the nation responsible?

  • Comment number 36.

    @31, Generally agree with you that our focus should be a world cup (I'd add the caveat that REAL FIFA reform much come first). But you say "the Olympics went to Greece on its 100th year anniversary...." It didn't, Atlanta hosted the centenery Games.

  • Comment number 37.

    David - IMO the answer has to be No!

    The English FA have enough 'egg on their faces' to last a lifetime, I'm afraid a whole generation (or two) of FA personnel need to have passed by before we even think of bidding again for any international tournament. The reputation of the current 'FA crew' is rock bottom.

    The only case where an exception might be made is if England does actually managed to win one of these tournaments, then perhaps sufficient 'egg will have been wiped' for us to make a serious bid, but otherwise no!

  • Comment number 38.

    No we don't want it. Not worth it until anti-english are not occupying the top positions of UEFA and FIFA. While England hasn't had great success internationally they have consistently gotten to QF and last 16s of Euros and World Cups. It's clubs teams have been the teams people least wanted to be drawn against in Europe with 8 finalists from 4 different clubs in the last 8 years of the Champion's league.
    I wouldn't want to bid against Wales/Scotland/Ireland either. England do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to football. Most English think it is fair, others don't. How anybody could say Qatar were more deserving of hosting a World Cup is beyond me. I would never want to be involved in that kind of process again.

  • Comment number 39.

    Absolutely, we should bid for Euro 2020!

    Let's try to see beyond the political in-fighting, putting a bid together would show the authorities that it's not about the suits and the smoke-filled rooms, but about the fans and the spectacle.

    We already have 10 stadia with capacities above 40,000 and the bid would encourage more development, just as was discussed with the WC2018 bid, and the commercial sense of holding it in a big marketplace is compelling in these austere times.

  • Comment number 40.

    Wasn't it only a few months ago the English FA basically publicly boycotted FIFA's selection process, saying they would never bid for another tournament again until there had been some kind of reform?
    If England bids again and fails will we be subjected to more crying and moaning from the English FA despite the fact that they now know the nature of the selection process?
    Does this mean your job is secure for a good few years David seeing as the only time you bother to talk about football is when you are either writing conspiracy riddled blogs about FIFA and UEFA, moaning that neither of them respects the English FA or moaning about the dis functionality of the English FA?

    Another failed World Cup bid will surely give you plenty of material on both subjects.

  • Comment number 41.

    It will go to turkey and I hope it does. During the summer months turkey seems to be a home from home for many english people with it being a top summer holiday destination so happy days. loads of support will travel and enjoy a tournament played in the sun, not one played in the drizzle of Cardiff Dublin Glasgow or London. Uefa want an advert for european football from the Euro's to push the champions league viewing figures etc from around the world that won't happen on sodden pitches and in cold weather.

  • Comment number 42.

    Personally, I would prefer the FA to lobby UEFA to scrap the Euros altogether in it's current tournament format, and replace it with some sort of rolling league structure with promotion/relegation. That way, we could watch Europe's top teams play each other all year round in competitive matches, instead of just once every 2 years over the course of a month.

    So, no for me.

  • Comment number 43.

    @33 Behave yourself.

    You're totally naive if you think World football is anything less than completely Political. We all love football for what it is but as with anything done on a global scale, the pure form of the original source is diluted/corrupted/adapted by a higher power i.e. the ruling body - in this case FIFA/UEFA.
    I still believe we should get over ourselves and think #27 is totally right on that. Not just coz he agrees with me.
    This is nothing to do with my hight horse, quite the opposite. WE need to get off our high horse. We don't deserve or are not entitled to anything so stop talking us up like we are!

  • Comment number 44.

    36.
    At 12:12 13th Jun 2012, RobH wrote:


    @31, Generally agree with you that our focus should be a world cup (I'd add the caveat that REAL FIFA reform much come first). But you say "the Olympics went to Greece on its 100th year anniversary...." It didn't, Atlanta hosted the centenery Games.

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    Agreed! Thanks for spotting the error! Forget the Olympics reference.

    The 100th year of the World Cup surely must be given to the Home Nations. Lets make it special and let every country in the World take part. No qualification just one massive footy tournament. A logistic nightmare but I am confident the English, Welsh, Scots and Irish could work together and pull it off.

    What a party that would be!

  • Comment number 45.

    @27 @5 I totally disagree! most of the public dont even rate England as the best country in the world or better than others! Most actually are very negative about ourselves and this country, arrogant no where near! We should be proud but not arrogant. We have great footballing history, a fantastic domestic league and some superb stadia so why shouldnt we be good enough to hold a tournament or believe/think/say we are good enough? EURO96 was fantastic and really helped push the EUROs to a better status as a tournament (it was the first with 16 teams). Why should England and the FA be punished for standing up for what they believe in? We are not saying we are better we are saying we think this is wrong or FIFA/UEFA are wrong, if they are abusing their power in anyway (not towards England) but to the World then why should we not ask questions? Also we lost the bid for world cup 2006 and world cup 2018 so we havent lost out once but twice now. Yes we should get up and get on with it stop whinging about the past attempts and move on but I do hope the FA continue to stand up for themselves. They will need to build bridges but I hope they do it in the right way.
    And to finish with the Jubilee point seriously you are being negative about this country celebrating its history and being British...why should we not be able to do that!? other countries show their passion and pride why cant we?

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  • Comment number 47.

    @45 Look, I really enjoyed the celebrations but we've got to admit there's an empire mentality about us still. 'Rule Brittania' is a national favourite but shows how distorted our self image is. I'm not against the Queen or the celebrations, I raised the event to highlight my point about our national self image.

  • Comment number 48.

    Until Blatter is pushing up daisies we wont get anything out of FIFA/UEFA.

    It would be nice to see the Scots/Irish/Welsh bid win but they should be made to have a 3 way play off to decide who qualifys as the hosts with the losers having to go through the qualifiers like the others.

  • Comment number 49.

    I also do not believe that England should bid for this tournament. It would seem that there are countries which are favoured by FIFA and EUFA and countries which are not favoured. Unfortunately England falls into the latter category. One can only question why this is so, perhaps the success of the Premier League in being exported around the world causes these organisations to feel that football from England is over-exposed? Or possibly that they should receive more money from english football?

  • Comment number 50.

    I would like Scotland and Ireland to host it.

    I think they would host a great event.

  • Comment number 51.

    "Tokyo is a long shot while the economic crisis in Spain looks to have ruined Madrid's chances."

    Sorry, but Tokyo, a city in JAPAN is looking at bidding for the EUROPEAN championships? What a ridiculous concept!

  • Comment number 52.

    @31 The tournament may be celebrating its centennial year in 2030 but England were too proud to enter the first three deciding it was trumped up foreign thing. By the time they actually qualified it was 1950.

    I suppose if you can't win it, hosting it is the next best thing.

  • Comment number 53.

    Wouldn't bother! You know Panorama would run an expose on a non-story that would be blown out of all proportion again

  • Comment number 54.

    I couldn't go through all the politics again!! Why give someone the opportunity to make us whipping boys. Let both FIFA and EUFA come to us when they've been let down by their chosen hosts. I'm sure we could put on a great tournament at short notice. Preference by miles would be a World Cup.

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  • Comment number 56.

    No thanks. I would rather aim for 2026 and save our money.
    Personally I think the Euros are he pre-match/warm up to the World Cup.
    Also I think by the time bidding for a WC comes round Blatter will have snuffed it. Trevor Brooking will be FIFA President, and it will be after poor turn outs at Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 FIFA will be desperate to take the tournament to a big footballing nation!

  • Comment number 57.

    Well Euro '96 was put on without any of the "English arrogance" suggested by some posts and I think it was enjoyed as the pure football experience that it should be. A joint bid by England and Wales maybe? Surely a joint bid by Ireland, Scotland and Wales causes issues regarding qualification - 3 reserved places in the finals? And what about Northern Ireland - Wales, Scotland and the Republic look a bit snooty if they overlook the northerners.

  • Comment number 58.

    @47 theres a difference between our self image now and celebrating the history of this country. The British Empire is historical and we celebrate the history I really dont think most of the public have an empire attitude. In fact I think its quite the opposite these days. And hey Im neither for or against a monarcy i think it gives some people hope, for me its just saying we are British enjoy a day off and celebrate it :)

  • Comment number 59.

    No Bid.

  • Comment number 60.

    @55
    I agree that "if deciding it purely on footballing and infrastructure criteria then we are probably one of 2 or 3 in Europe that actually stand head and shoulders above the rest for hosting a Euro's We would certiainly be in the top 10 for hosting a World Cup". Not even in doubt.
    My argument is against all these people saying we should just be given a tournament, or we should have nothing to do with FIFA/UEFA, or everyone else is corrupt but we're not. I'm sure the failed WC bid wasn't as simple as us not bribing the right people anyway.
    Don't be childish! At the end of the day you, and probably everyone on this blog, got their information about the failed bid from this site - so none of us really knows what happened behind the scenes.

  • Comment number 61.

    @ 45 because it doesn't end there. England is a schizophrenic country when it comes to football, it is self-loathing one moment and then mind blowingly arrogant if there is the slightest whiff of success.

    The point is other countries lose out too, even after successive failures, why does England have to be so special even in defeat. The country has to get over itself and realise it is just one of many.

    Note. you don't see the same behaviour when it comes to Shakespeare or Newton, who have easily contributed more to world than the dear old FA..
    We share gravity, why not football?

  • Comment number 62.

    "Last week, before the opening game of Euro 2010"

    You do know what year it is, right David?


    But I agree, why not bid for the Euro's? It's guaranteed qualification for starters!
    and if we don't get it, it's not like we'd be surprised.

  • Comment number 63.

    As for the actual bid I hope Turkey get it or the joint scottish,welsh and irish bid. I actually think we should try for the World Cup again. We only held the EUROs in 1996 and the World Cup was way back in 1966 so we should really be trying for the World Cup. Maybe a joint bid for the UK although that does cause issues on qualification spots.

  • Comment number 64.

    I don't think we should bother. Given how the hosting of the current tournament is going, we no longer have the volume of hooligans nor the depth of racism to make the tournament the resounding success UEFA requires.

  • Comment number 65.

    Yes. Go for it. Euro 1996 was a great tournament and I was lucky enough to attend a couple of games including the Old Trafford semi. 24 years is a fair gap between tournaments.

    Also a chance given it will be a 24 nation tournament to build those stadiums proposed in the failed 2018 bid at Plymouth and Bristol.

    Realistically there are not too many countries who can stage a solo bid for a 24 nation tournament. We are one of them.

  • Comment number 66.

    No we shouldn't.

    1. I don't think we deserve it (other teams should bid to have a chance of hosting it) 2. We only held a Euro not that long ago and i can see it effecting any plan we had to host a world cup in the future.
    3. 2030 marking the centenary year of the world cup could be our best bet of hosting something.

    People keep saying fifa/uefa are anti-england etc blah blah which in some instances it might seem that they are, but we have no divine right to host anything and i for one am in favour of other countries getting it if it boosts their transport links, reputation, economy, football stadia etc. I'd love Turkey to have 2020 but if that's not possible then maybe someone like Serbia could host it.

  • Comment number 67.

    @60
    I do not for one minute belive we should just be given a tournament and nor I doubt does anyone on here on anyone at the FA. However, we would like the bidding process to be a fair and transparent process. Even FIFA themselves have said they will not be doing a dual bid process in the future as there was too much "strategic" voting going on "you bid for me in 2018, I'll bid for you in 2022" There was also no transparency at all. Not too mention that Jack Walker had previously been quite openly anti-English and giving interviews stating he will not vote for England and will be recommending the other CONCACAF members to do thes same. Then of course we have Napoleon er I mean Platini. Its clear that he too has some kind of agenda to curb the success of English clubs. Yet now that PSG have a wealthy benefactor he seems to have calmed down a little.

  • Comment number 68.

    @61 I think we were very disapointed we didnt get the World Cup in 06 or 18 mainly because we love football, we are passionate about it and are disappointed when things go against us (nothing wrong with that i think). We also think it would be a superb tournament here and we would all be very proud to hold the world cup here proud to accept the responsibility of entertaining the world like the Olympics we shall be proud to do it.
    I would think that other nations who have failed in the past have been disappointed as well and have hoped to host a great tournament to.
    I do think the FA can sometimes over do things and whinge about things when really they should move on and strive to do better and look where they can improve to get a successful bid next time.

  • Comment number 69.

    Absolutly not.

  • Comment number 70.

    No. Leave it to the 3 celtic nations to represent the UK.
    It far better to go and support England at a close nation. Like the thousands who went to Portugal & Germany and will go to France in 2016.
    Holding it at home is boring.

  • Comment number 71.

    Definitely a No. Platini is the most anti English person there is and we are just wasting time and money if we do put a bid in whilst he is still head of UEFA.

  • Comment number 72.

    Am I the only person wondering why TOKYO is listed in the article as a long shot - last time I looked at an atlas Tokyo was defintely not in Europe so can't even be a long shot....someone got their geography a bit wrong here?!

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  • Comment number 74.

    And the Turkish bid isn't just about the Olympics. Currently there's allegations of corruption and match-fixing in Turkish domestic football and several senior figures are facing serious questions. UEFA won't go along with it if it turns out that there's been serious naughty stuff going on.

  • Comment number 75.

    England should do a deal...

    England axes Panorama to get the Euros.

  • Comment number 76.

    We should definitely go for it. We have seen what a huge event can do for our country over the last few weeks. The Diamond Jubillee brought the country together as has the Olympics and they are yet to begin. We have the stadia and facilites all ready for a big event so why not put in a bid

  • Comment number 77.

    ''extremely lukewarm'' What does that even mean?

  • Comment number 78.

    And if anybody puts Milton Keynes forward as a host then I withdraw my support.

  • Comment number 79.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 80.

    England needs to host these tournaments to increase the chances of winning a tournament. '66 was no coincidence between winning and hosting. (Dodgy refereeing helped there as well...ah well at least the denial of Lampards goal in SA evened things up).

  • Comment number 81.

    A lot of people didn't bother reading the article:

    Rob04, CranleighEagle, Jon and others. The whole point is that if Istanbul wins the 2020 Olympics bid, which is looking likely then Turkey won't be able to hold the Euros!

  • Comment number 82.

    78.
    At 13:02 13th Jun 2012, Not-singing-anymore wrote:


    And if anybody puts Milton Keynes forward as a host then I withdraw my support.


    Oh I don't know. He's quite funny on Mock The Week.

  • Comment number 83.

    As a proud Scot who was in Primary school the last time the Tartan army were in a major tournament I'd love to see the tournament played across the three Celtic Nations. In terms of Stadia there is Hampden, Ibrox (soon to be renamed I'm sure) Celtic Park and of course Murryfield can hold football. By that point Aberdeen will have built a new stadium with possible additions to Tynecastle and Easter Road if required. That would be more than the Ukraine have at the moment this year.

    In Ireland there is Landsdowne road or whatever sponsor it'll have then and Croke park. I'm sure there is more suitable but not entirely sure of the setup over there

    By 2020 both welsh teams could be in EPL so could have increased capacity and of course Millenium for the final.

    These three countries have cities with great atmospheres and not nearly as much hostility as the scenes at last night's Poland/russia match.

  • Comment number 84.

    @57, 68.Yes Euro'96 was amazing and testament to the love of the game itself. I don't disagree with you that England would be great hosts and the FA are diplomatically naive. But there is a nasty arrogance about the national team that maybe comes from the sheer frustration of not having won anything.

    Maybe if you won something you could start to relax but as it is the nation gets into a frenzy and then rips itself apart when the inevitable failure comes round. Add 2 years (4 if Steve McLaren is in charge) rinse and repeat.

  • Comment number 85.

    Just to emphasise the sarcasm within my earlier comment, just in case it gets moderated out, there was certainly no racism in the chanting at training sessions or indeed games from any section of fans, and there has definitely been no crowd violence or steward beating at any of the matches. Especially the one between Russia and Poland, where the two sets of fans mingled happily and exchanged cheery stories of the match with each other whilst sharing a small soft drink.

  • Comment number 86.

    @25 If you read the article properly before commenting, you will see that both Turkey and the celtic bid are mentioned.

  • Comment number 87.

    A Celtic Cup for me. Just expand the tournament to 20 teams with four groups of five with the top two qualifying for the knockout phases. That way Wales, Scotland and the two Irelands each get a spot and teams only end up playing one more game - which is the same number as a World Cup anyway.

    That has far more chance of success and really is the next best thing to go for, for anyone living in England.

  • Comment number 88.

    No way should we tender a bid !
    The Euro is falling apart and nobody wants the expense of hosting this tournament apart from those countries that will almost certainly mess it up.
    In my opinion, Platini and EUFA are more untrustworthy than FIFA.

  • Comment number 89.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 90.

    61.
    At 12:43 13th Jun 2012, super_critical wrote:


    @ 45 because it doesn't end there. England is a schizophrenic country when it comes to football, it is self-loathing one moment and then mind blowingly arrogant if there is the slightest whiff of success.

    The point is other countries lose out too, even after successive failures, why does England have to be so special even in defeat. The country has to get over itself and realise it is just one of many.

    Note. you don't see the same behaviour when it comes to Shakespeare or Newton, who have easily contributed more to world than the dear old FA..
    We share gravity, why not football?
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I do not agree with your comments especially the references to arrogance and Shakespear.

    All the Worlds a stage and the lady doth protest too much!

    The FA is not perfect. However, respect must be given to it!

    In my humble opinion the FA created the greatest sport in the World. From the back streets of inner cities to barren lands of Africa you do not hear children crying O Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo? They scream Goal, Gol, Golo, etc

    Done to death by a slanderous tongue, be not afraid of greatness!

  • Comment number 91.

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  • Comment number 92.

    Lukewarm about this like others.

    The debacle of the world cup bid and how we were treated still smarts and I do not wish the FA or this country to be humiliated again simply because we stand up to corruption which is how I see it to be honest.

    A successful Olympics and a shortage of bidders for a 24 team tournament may cause a rethink and I have no doubt we could stage a fantastic event but I don't trust Platini and his cronies.

    I don't buy this no one likes us either, that's just an excuse to cover up the politics of world football.

    Let FIFA and UEFA take their events to "new frontiers" and see what it all means.

  • Comment number 93.

    75.
    At 12:59 13th Jun 2012, Jasperino wrote:

    England should do a deal...

    England axes Panorama to get the Euros
    -------------
    So should England axe every tv programme that tells the truth ?

  • Comment number 94.

    seems countries with chips on their shoulders about certain people always get the tourneys, a celtic bid should do quite well lol

    as for england bidding, i say swerve it, by the time the tourney comes around we'll have a few more world class stadia built and id prefer fifa and eufa kept their filthy paws off.

  • Comment number 95.

    I always support the other home nations, this year with ROI, 2002, 98, 96 etc.
    However, a few years ago I remember FIFA / UEFA saying they don't like joint bids. So why would they like a three way bid? Which would mean three host nations automatically given entrance. Personally I don't see it being won, so why waste the money on the bid?

  • Comment number 96.

    I dunno, it wasn't that long since Euro 96 so while yeah we'd be quite capable of hosting Euro 2020 UEFA aren't going to think they owe us anything on those grounds.

    To be honest I'd rather let the Celts have this one.

    As for our attitude overall, I just think we consider ourselves to be different to others, not neccersarilly superior though. For me as an individual, "British" is one of a variety of inter-connecting tribes I consider myself a part of and it's one I want to be proud of. What I don't like is the attitude that we 'shouldn't' be proud of ourselves while other nations 'should' be.

    Maybe that's a misinterpretation on my part but that's how it comes accross.

  • Comment number 97.

    We would have a better chance to stage the Euro 2020 if we bid to co-stage it in England, Scotland and Wales. Do not forget that Michel Platini hates the British since the time his team St.Etienne was beaten (demolished) by Ipswich Town in a European cup.

  • Comment number 98.

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  • Comment number 99.

    @95.At 13:25 13th Jun 2012, Essex Canary wrote:

    "I always support the other home nations, this year with ROI, 2002, 98, 96 etc."

    I presume that you are British. Can I just point out that ROI is not a "home nation".

  • Comment number 100.

    If football was invented in this country, why is it a corporation in Switzerland has all the power in these matters? Their hardly a footballing force.

    UEFA/FIFA needs a massive overhaul, but how can you do it when anyone tries to intervene they say 'politics is getting involved in football', yet this is exactly what the heads of these organisations are doing themselves but only for their benefit. Blatter has done little to improve the game, anyone previously associated with UEFA has said he should be gone, and no footballing fan likes him.

    It would be nice to have a football tournament in England but it is a total waste of time when you have to buy votes through 'sponsorship'. So we may as well save the money.

 

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