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Dan Roan | 08:38 UK time, Tuesday, 11 January 2011

Anfield


For more than a minute, as the flashbulbs popped, and the photographers begged him to look their way, and the journalists waited to ask him their questions, and the press officers glanced nervously, he waited, and took it all in. A few yards away, on the wall at Anfield to his right, as if to emphasise the legendary status he still enjoys, and must now avoid staining, hung an oil painting of himself.


An image of a younger Kenny Dalglish, among a small row of portraits celebrating Liverpool's greatest ever managers.


These were the men who had won the title here. His was the most recent in 1989-90. Memories of the way things used to be.


This was the very room in which he had first signed for Bob Paisley's Liverpool as Kevin Keegan's replacement back in 1977.The room where, in 1991, he had announced his shock-resignation as manager, and walked away, a departure he always regretted, and from which the club has never really managed to recover.


This was the Anfield Trophy Room he did so much to fill. 19 trophies in 14 years he helped to deliver to this treasure trove, as both player and manager.


Now he was back where it had all begun.

It took just a few seconds of his first Anfield news conference in almost 20 years, for Dalglish to show what the club had been missing. He happily chatted away for a further 23 minutes.

 

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His self-deprecating quip that if he lasted until the end of the season he would surely qualify as one of the league's longest serving managers, raised a laugh and immediately charmed the assembled media. Swiftly forgotten were the melodramatic offerings of Rafa Benitez and the tortured ramblings of Roy Hodgson, who departed after only six months in charge.

But if Dalglish intended to prove he was happy being merely a caretaker king, and to play down the possibility of a staying in charge beyond the summer, then he was fooling nobody.

The features may be older than we remember when he last spoke here, but his eyes still glint with the same steely determination and hunger.

Having posed on the pitch with the shirt he wore with such distinction, on a damp Merseyside day, Dalglish lit up Anfield as he spoke of his deep respect for the club he loves and his pride at being asked to help in its hour of need.

But these were not the words of a man content with just four months of duty.

Especially not when Damien Comolli, sat alongside him, admitted the Scotsman had the attributes required to be a contender for the job on a permanent basis and would therefore be under consideration.

In truth Comolli, the club's director of football strategy, could hardly have said anything else on such an occasion. But it served to highlight the dilemma now facing the club's owners.

He may have a Twitter account, but Dalglish is not the tech-savvy, young, statistically-minded, baseball-following manager that Comolli, and owners John Henry and Tom Werner no doubt have their hearts set on for the long-term.

The likes of continentals such as Jurgen Klopp and Ralf Rangnick are a different breed.

But if Dalglish does lead a revival in the league, and continues Liverpool's march towards Dublin and this year's Europa League final, then how can the owners deny him the chance to continue?

And what precisely would need to be achieved for Dalglish's second spell as manager to be regarded as a success?

In appointing the Kop's choice on a temporary basis, the Fenway Sports Group are storing up another big decision, another consultation with the fans, for later this year, but for now the focus is on the present, and a tough away game against Blackpool on Wednesday.

It took just 30 seconds for the romance of Dalglish's return to be put into perspective by Daniel Agger's needless challenge on Dimitar Berbatov to give away a penalty at Old Trafford on Sunday.

But now, at Bloomfield Road, the new manager will discover exactly how hard his job really is. Losing to Manchester United with 10 men in the FA Cup is one thing.

A second defeat of the season to Ian Holloway's pumped-up side would be deemed unacceptable. Dalglish's rescue mission is about to begin in earnest.

How did his his wife Marina feel, I asked, when he announced at the weekend as they holidayed in the Persian Gulf, that he had accepted the job, and would be immediately leaving for England?

"She said yes before I could!" Dalglish joked.

And maybe it was true, because he has always wanted to come back, and to help the club that stress, in the aftermath of the Hillsborough disaster, had forced him to leave 20 years ago.

Having been overlooked for the role in the summer by the previous regime, there is genuine unfinished business for him here, and now he has his wish, he must be easier for Mrs Dalglish to live with.

When Dalglish last sat in the Anfield dugout, his team were champions. But the years have not been kind to Liverpool, and now we will discover whether this iconic figure, who has not coached for a decade, has what it takes to succeed where Hodgson, the reigning Manager of the Year, failed. It should be a fascinating journey.

To many Liverpool fans, Hodgson, for all his qualities as a man and attributes as a coach, only served to remind them of how far their club had fallen.

Like the Trophy Room in which he sat once again on Monday, Dalglish instead evokes memories of what Liverpool once was.

And inspires hope for what they perhaps could be again.

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    As Newcastle discovered with Kevin Keegan the romance of a 'Second Coming' isn't always a guarantee of success and Kenny's short-term contract (until the end of the season) suggests the owner's know what a gamble it is.

    You have to feel sorry for Roy Hodgson - apart from his £7.5m pay-off. A man with UEFA technical coaching experience, voted LMA Manager of the Year just last year and who could speak 5 different languages...sadly one wasn't Spanish. He was hamstrung by having Kenny hovering over his shoulder and the club's rocky finances meant he never really stood a chance.

    Can anyone refresh my memory as to why Kenny's first reign came to an end?

  • Comment number 2.

    Kenny Dalglish is a legend of english football - not just a Liverpool legend. If there's a man who can connect the success of the past with the present, to lead to a better future, then it has to be him.

    The Liverpool board seem to wait to see if he can turn things around before handing him a contract, but they should give him the time needed to turn things round and the money for transfers, because Liverpool will need a lot of them. Good luck to him.

  • Comment number 3.

    @1: He left after the Hillsborough incident. It's mentioned in the blog.

  • Comment number 4.

    I can see this ending in tears.

  • Comment number 5.

    Comparisons with Kevin Keegan’s return to Newcastle are a little wayward, not least because Dalglish was always a far better manager.

  • Comment number 6.

    @ JoC,

    Newcastle had started well when Keegan returned there. Keegan brought some very good players to the club, some of who are still in the club (Argentinian defenders) and got a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford, a match Newcastle could easily have won. Then, Ashley brought Wise to the club, with the well documented consequences. It was Ashley who stopped Keegan's return from being a successful one. Don't confuse facts.

  • Comment number 7.

    I agree it's pretty obvious that Dalglish fancies being manager for longer than a caretaker spell. If Liverpool produce a strong finish to the season it will difficult to turn him down, particularly with the public support he will have.

    As for regrets about walking away 20 years ago, he maybe does have some, but he wouldn't made that much of a difference. As good a manager as he was, English football was changing. He may have managed another title at Anfield but Manchester United would still have dominated the 90's.

    It's perhaps a good thing for Dalglish that he left when he did, otherwise he may have been remembered as the man who overseen Liverpool's decline.

    http://footballfutbolfitba.wordpress.com/

  • Comment number 8.

    It feels like the right choice and its easy to get sentimental, however, it seems like he has unfinished business and hopefully that desire will stabilise the club, he clearly cares deeply about Liverpool FC.

    I don't think anyone is expecting to win the league in the immediate future but it's the right appointment, and with the benefit of hindsight, should have been made in the summer. Don't want to knock Roy Hodgson, I just think Kenny would have known how to handle it from the start and would have it the ground running.

    To answer JoC at post 1 - Its widely regarded that Kenny resigned on health grounds, most likely due to stress, primarily brought on by the Hillsborough disaster and all that entailed, thus not being in the right frame of mind to be in arguably, what was the most high profile job in club football, at the time.

  • Comment number 9.

    I wonder how the fans wull react if they do lose to Blackpool and Everton this week

  • Comment number 10.

    Dalglish inspires confidence whereas Hodgson just made you hold your head in your hands.

    After just one game in charge it's obvious to see the players were completely comfortable with his approach and despite going a goal down to a dispecable dive they responded with the kind of football we have been yearning for all season.

    His tactics were spot on and substitutions inspired.

    Apart from Kenny however the club us building a dream team with Clarke and Commolli - the future is good for Liverpool FC.

  • Comment number 11.

    JoC, Kenny Dalglish left Liverpool because he couldn't take the pressure of managing Liverpool anymore but not in a Keegan type way but because he was present for both the Heysel and Hillsborough tragedies and needed to get away from football to deal with it.
    When he came back he won the league at Anfield with Blackburn despite Liverpool beating them on the final day of the season (That Redknapp freekick that flew into the top corner as I was sat in the Centenary stand is etched into my brain, as was the entire ground chanting his name throughout the match).
    It's true that he failed at Celtic with John Barnes(not good enough to be a manager) and struggled at Newcastle but he may well be able to at least motivate the players even if he does turn out to be out-dated by modern tactics.
    If he had anything to do with the higher defensive line and dropping Ngog then he has already proven himself to be more adept than Woy!

  • Comment number 12.

    Kenny left because Hillsborough was catching up with him, I dont believe Liverpool would have been that bad in the 90's if he'd still been there, Souness started all this off.

    Liverpool would be well into 20 titles by now if he had stayed, but oh well, he didnt.

  • Comment number 13.

    Quick note Dan, can you change "ocassion" to "occasion" - it's one of those that gets me!

    I'm too young to remember Kenny's reign, but I must admit that I fear Liverpool might rejuvenate under him and I may lose my ten pound bet with a mate that they'd finish outside the top 6. (You may think this was a very astute pre-season bet but I also bet him a tenner Arsenal would run away with the title!!)

  • Comment number 14.

    Also Hillsborough was the third tragedy not the second that Kenny was present at, as he was playing for Celtic at Ibrox in 1971 when 65 people died in a stairwell.
    One tragedy is bad enough but to be present for 3 would enough to give most people stress problems!

  • Comment number 15.

    @footballfutbolfitba - Liverpool's downfall can be directly attributed to Souness' transfers - I doubt very much that Dalglish would have made the same mistakes - maybe if Kenny stayed there would have been no downfall at all?

  • Comment number 16.

    The circumstances in which Dalglish left Liverpool is a significant and overlooked point.

    If not for Hillsborough I believe he might have stayed as Manager at Liverpool through all this time.

    If only because of that, I hope it works out for him this time. Steve Clarke appointment is a good start

  • Comment number 17.

    After just one game in charge it's obvious to see the players were completely comfortable with his approach and despite going a goal down to a dispecable dive they responded with the kind of football we have been yearning for all season.

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    You didn't create a single chance in open play and Torres still looked completely dis-interested and was marked out the game by Jonny Evans. That's what you've been yearning for all season?

    Thing's must have been worse than I thought if that was an improvement.

  • Comment number 18.

    First things first, Kenny was the greatest British football player of all time - no question.

    Not the greatest british manager of all time perhaps, but his post Paisely late 80's team of barnes, beardsley and aldridge show's he's definitely a very very good manager.

    He's got Comolli to take the lead in buying in players.
    Good coaching staff, including the shrewd appointment of Clarke.
    All he has to do is make sure everyone is pulling in the same direction and inspire the team and crowd. He'll absolutely excel at this.

    I'm not saying he's a miracle worker, and I don't think we're gonna be a force again in the near future, but I can't see anyone doing any better, especially in the short term.

    Long live the King!

  • Comment number 19.

    @footballfutbolfitba - I have to agree with xxxmjxxx. You seem to have a short memory. Fergie was perilously close to being sacked. But for that infamous Mark Robbins goal he might well have gone.

    Who's to say if Kenny had stayed on and overseen an evolution rather than Souness' attempted revolution we wouldn't have continued to dominate.

    If that had happened and Fergie had been robbed of his first title - as Carra has pointed out Man U didn't have to beat Liverpool that season because with Souness in charge we had effectively beaten ourselves and we were nowhere near challenging!

    If that had happened there is good reason to suppose that Fergie would have been sacked, Man U wouldn't have ridden the tidal wave of money brought in by Sky and they'd be a fallen giant akin to Newcastle and, until recently, Man City. They'd certainly be missing a Sir!

    That of course didn't happen Fergie clung onto his job and free from any real rivals in those early days made hay by making some fantastic business decisions off the pitch and really taking advantage of the wealth Sky brought in.

    There are very good reasons to suppose that Man U wouldn't be the Man U they are today if Dalglish hadn't resigned!

  • Comment number 20.

    in 1985 i ran 3 marathons dublin-london-new york i was 35 i am now 60 its the same for kenny dalglish and liverpool 20 years on if you get rid of a manger after six months do you realy think kenny is going to save liverpool i dont think so kenny was good but that was 20 years ago wake up liverpool stop living in the past

  • Comment number 21.

    Bravo Dan, this is the most considered article I've read on the topic. Now, you touch on the issue, but do you feel that Dalglish's short sharp cheeky style with the media will become somewhat embarassing in today's climate? especially after defeat at say, West brom?

    You hint he is more accomplished in this area now?

    My interest is that I adored this man as a player, for those of you who didn't, you really should have seen him, simply a class above all the other players on the pitch, on another level upstairs like. In 1983 he was better than Rumminigge, Blockin & Zico, maybe not quite as good as Platini

    I cringe to think of this rep being tarnished. I mean, He won the double as player-manager and scored the goal that won the title on the last day - enduring image.

    Also Alex Ferguson, the professional scotsman, wouldn't dare 'dis' Kenny Dalglish, no mind games can apply.

  • Comment number 22.

    Kenny's joke about being a 'long serving' manager if he survives until the summer is pertinent and a pointer to the real problem that exists at the premiership level. It is the issue of who is in control? Managers no longer have the power to 'manage',instead players egos have to be massaged and coaxed into cooperation while owners can countermand any decisions or strategies presented by the manager.
    In suggesting that the owners will be looking for a youthful statitician also fails to acknowledge the key skill is galvanising and creating a working unit that can succeed. Benitez was a keen exponent of developing a strategy based on statistics and he did not survive.You can devise the best game plan but if it is ignored or not implemented by the players then it is worthless.
    Kenny has that one element that just might motivate these players,it is passion. It is a passion that fans in every club up and down the country will understand but so many players have forgotten or literally pay lip service to. He is a legend, he has achieved great success and the key thing, he still holds the belief that it is a great honour to wear that red shirt.
    If he can just pass on one tenth of his desire and commitment then the players can take pride once again in their contribution and earn the genuine support of their fans

  • Comment number 23.

    It's the time when Liverpool fans start those daydreams, I suppose, deluded due to starvation of success for over 20 years.

    @ 18,
    No. Dalglish was a great player but not the greatest. Many fans would suggest an alternative player as the greatest and within reason.

    @ 19,
    suggesting that, had Dalglish had stayed at Liverpool SAF would never have had the success he's had is pure nonsense. Liverpool were already in decline when Dalglish left.

    The issue here is whether Dalglish will be able to take you off the relegation trap, which I believe he can.
    Also, the issue is whether he can transform you to a top four challenging side, with the addition of a number of players that you should hope he can, for your own sake.

    Once up a time in the recent past, there were Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Now it is Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal, Spurs, before Liverpool. And they all seem to be some distance from you, in terms of the football they play and the results they get.

    A wise man tastes a bit of sweet change before he starts dreaming dreams.

  • Comment number 24.

    Great to see a straight talking manager in a press conference for LFC. Benitez's riddles were becoming tiresome, even when he left the club he was talking about priests and sugar. Cheers for Istanbul though Rafa. Greatetst final EVER!

    And Woy was never going to succeed as the players latched onto the negativity surrounding him, plus he'd never won a major career title so I'm not sure why he was appointed anyway. Ask Mach 3 and Hillbilly Hick for the answer to that question.

    Hopefully Kenny can give them the kick up the backside needed to enable LFC to finish in the top 6 and attract some decent youthful prospects for a brighter future.

    Finally, I hope to see Babel get a sustained run out as he has a lot of potential I don't care what the doubters say. Also Martin Kelly looks like more of a defender in one game than Johnson has in his career. Johnson RM and Kelly DR then we are sorted. Meireles is superb.

    Do we miss Carra?

  • Comment number 25.

    I like persiangreen's comments. The purchase of Barnes, Beardsley, Aldridge & Houghton raised eyebrows but turned out to be genius. Anyone disagree?

    I think they won the title in March but were robbed of potential euro success by UEFA.


    he can certainly assemble a team, perhaps the best ever UK club side? I'd go for Arsenal in 2004 but its a close run thing.

  • Comment number 26.

    More coverage of King Kenny and Liverpool? Yawn. Most of us will be happy when he's lost a few games, and we can start reading articles about real things - Messi's ballon d'or win, the return of the home championships, or the sad death of Richard Butcher all seem more important/interesting subjects than Dalgish's press conference.

  • Comment number 27.

    When Dalglish was first appointed first time around, he inheritted a side that was at the top of the English and European game - they'd finished 2nd in the league and runners up in the European Cup. While some modifications were needed, the majority of the side was good enough from day one - later on he lost Rush, but was able to sign Aldridge, Barnes and Beardsley instead. More tweaks followed and more success, but he left before the squad needed a massive rebuild due to age.

    Yes he won the league with Blackburn, but you've got to remember that with that team he had almost Manchester City money in comparison to other teams - Shearer and Sutton both arrived for British transfer records, Tim Flowers was the record buy for a goalkeeper.

    Newcastle was the one club he took over where there wasn't a bottom less pit of money and where the club wasn't on top of English football. Was he a success there? And having left there in 1999 that was his last job in English football.

    A lot has changed since

  • Comment number 28.

    18. At 10:43am on 11 Jan 2011, persiangreen wrote:
    First things first, Kenny was the greatest British football player of all time - no question.

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    I would disagree

    George Best, John Charles, Bobby Charlton, Duncan Edwards, Raich Carter, Glenn Hoddle, Bryan Robson and several others were just as talented if not more so with Duncan Edwards being described by Matt Busby as the best player he had ever seen (and given some of the players he had seen in his life that is some praise)

  • Comment number 29.

    @ 20 - Did you just vomit words on to the screen?

    Liverpool is not the club it once was - empires rise and fall and Liverpool's dominance came to an end when Kenny walked and when Fergie's reprieve allowed him to pull united into the position they are in now.

    I agreed with signing Roy as manager at a time when the club was in a serious crisis, but I never considered him to be a long term replacement for Rafa. I just didn't think he'd be THAT disastrous...

  • Comment number 30.

    Dalglish is a legend and highly respected in both Scotland and England. But, he has been away from the sharp end of football for a long time. Time will tell whether the owners have made the right decision, although I feel at the moment that this one has been made to appease the fans. If Dalglish can't motivate the players then nobody will. We should all also remember that the current crop of LFC players, apart from the very odd exception wouldn't have had a look in during Dalglishs' first time in charge.

  • Comment number 31.

    There are very good reasons to suppose that Man U wouldn't be the Man U they are today if Dalglish hadn't resigned!
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    Then why aren't Blackburn Rovers the dominant force of English Football - it isn't as if they had no money

    It is becasue Sir Alex is a better mnanager than King Kenny and has proved it by building 4 different title winning teams

  • Comment number 32.

    What sentimental claptrap..
    Firstly I'll nail my colours to the mast and state that I'm a Fulham fan, so have obviously watched with interest as the season's events at Anfield have unfolded.
    Liverpool had a perfectly decent manager in Roy Hodgson. But their fans didn't like him because he apparently lacks charisma, and he rubs his face! (Look at Phil McNulty's blog if you don't believe me). Oh, and he also committed the cardinal sin of not being Kenny Dalglish.
    Never mind that he is more experienced, a better coach and is more widely connected. They slated him for buying Paul Konchesky but overlooked the fact that despite buying and selling well over 100 players in his time there Rafa Benitez left Liverpool without a half decent left back and he needed a quick fix.
    And how their darling Rafa has been well and truly shown up for the mediocre manager he is at Inter, taking a side that are European champions and had dominated Serie A for years to 7th place, whilst continuing to chant the mantra that he needed four more players that had become a fixture of his Liverpool press conferences - funny how Mourinho and Mancini before him never moaned about needing more players.
    Now they have bullied the Anfield board into sacking Roy and appointing their other darling Kenny Dalglish. Whilst I've nothing personal against Dalglish, I hope that for Liverpool's fans and the disgusting way they treated Hodgson and never gave him a chance from day one, that they get exactly what they deserve, for the saying that 'you should never go back' to be proved correct and their beloved King Kenny's 2nd spell in charge at Anfield to end in failure.

  • Comment number 33.

    4 teams that won 11 titles, 2 champions leagues, cup winners cup, 2 world club championships, 3 league cups and 5 fa cups as opposed to Kenny's 3 titles and 2 fa cups

  • Comment number 34.

    ******The room where, in 1991, he had announced his shock-resignation as manager, and walked away, a departure he always regretted, and from which the club has never really managed to recover.******

    Yeah its been a terrible period for Liverpool what with the champions league and all the other trophy wins since that fateful day Kenny walked.

    I'd love it if Liverpool went down, the we were big so deserve to be big mentality is absolute nonsense. Just a more illustrious version of Newcastle.

    As for Kenny, how he is supposed to know more about managing than Hodgson does in todays game is beyond me.

  • Comment number 35.

    I think Kenny is the right appointment at the right time and I expect Liverpool to now kick on and move up the table. He immediately commands the respect of the dressing room and you could clearly see that at Old Trafford on Sunday. Whilst we dont have the lure of champons league football, major players will want to come and play for Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool.

    All this nonsense about him being out of the game for 10 years isnt relative. The only things different now from when he last managed is more emphasis on sports science (and Liverpool have sports scientists, data analysts and nutricionists) and the rise of player power and agents (which Cammoli is there to take care of).

    The game is still about putting the ball in the back of the net and stopping the opposition putting it in your net. Kenny Dalglish was actually rather good at both as a player and a manager and that knowledge and experience is something you never lose!

  • Comment number 36.

    The euphoria over the return of a manager who has done next to nothing in the past 20 years is ridiculous. You'd think Liverpool's only problem was ever the manager and that Hodgson went from miracle worker at Fulham to clueless manager overnight. Sorry but a team who plays Ryan Babbel up front is not breaking into the top 6 let alone top 4 whoever the boss is.

  • Comment number 37.

    I'm not sure Dalglish is the right manager for Liverpool. But he could be right? I'm not sure. And who is? It could work. And what if Manchester United found themselves stuck with Roy Hodgson? Wouldn't their fans like it if George Best or Eric Cantona wanted the job? I have used United as an example here as opposed to Chelsea as Chelsea dont really have any legends. You would need a history of success for that. Why are Liverpool fans being slated for liking the idea of one of their most prodigal sons taking the reins? Hodgson was a good manager at his previous clubs. No Liverpool fan denies that. He didn't do well at Liverpool. I do not understand why this is being disputed.
    Dalglish's appointment is a step forward as is the appointment of Clarke. I am looking forward to being a Liverpool fan for the first time in months. I would love a Europa League final and a top 6 finish but in reality I'll be happy if Dalglish keeps us in the Premier League.
    Good things come to those who wait. I hope we've waited long enough now.

  • Comment number 38.

    Kenny looks to me like he's still on that cruise; he must be crazy to leave a nice Caribbean cruise in the sun with all those free cocktails, to face that miserable bunch on the training ground. Hope in a weeks time his crown hasn't slipped a bit, and the pool fans start realising the real problems at the club.

  • Comment number 39.

    This week the blogs are all about the start of Dogleash's second spell, thursday morning we can expect a number of blogs analysing their game against Blackpool (no matter what result) then friday we shall see a load of blogs about Dogleash ahead of his first derby game then many a blog afterwards.
    Not saying the BBC is biased or anything but.......

  • Comment number 40.

    Hmm...

    The jury is out on this one I am afraid? Dalglish inherited a very good team first time round but a team that was aging. I think that he left just before the team started to fall apart and poor old Graeme Souness had to fix the problem. Quite frankly he wasn't up to it. But neither has anyone else been up to it over the years. Thus far no-one has really filled the shoes left by Bob Paisley, who was quite frankly a genius in the same mould as SAF a manager able to build a football club from the ground up.

    I hope that Kenny succeeds and is able to restore some pride back to the Red half of Merseyside...but I don't think that it was stress that made him quit in the first place? We will see?

  • Comment number 41.

    People have to realise that things have changed in world football, since 20+ years ago, when Dalglish and Liverpool were high flyers in european football.

    Back then, it was clubs that were football schools that were a recipe for success. Nowadays there are other attributes that have cripped into the game:
    a) Sattelite T.V. earnings
    b) Champions League earnings
    c) Commercial activities earnings
    d) Internet viewing earnings (just in the near future horizon)

    A few years back, it would take a few dozen of £m for a club to enter the top four of the premiership, perhaps, assuming that a team was well tuned.
    Now it is Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea that are established and Man City stepping there with countless financial resources, while there's a Spurs side that has an array of very good footballers, play in the Champions League with the revenues attached to it (able to spend if they want).
    It takes more cash to move to the top four now and it is not certain that you'll be able to get the players you wish you'll get, as Man City found out the hard way.

    On the other hand, the english football has surely many hidden little treasures, when it comes to local talent:
    - Albrington, Bannan, Clarke at Aston Villa to name a few
    - Rosling, Rodwell at Everton
    - an unearthed gem of a player in Adam Johnson, purchased from Middlesbro by Man City
    - Rose and Townsend at Spurs.

    This was to give a few examples.
    Plus, there are occasions like Spurs finding VDV at a ridiculous price for his value.

    There are opportunities out there to find players both english and foreign.

    Liverpool need to build a side.
    On top of that, Liverpool have a dillema: what do you do with Torres? how do you motivate him? If he goes, the way he performs, he will be a bargain for the team that gets him, because he definitely doesn't justify a £50m+ price tag, right now. And what do you do with Gerrard? When his contract expires, will he sign a new one or will he go, the way Fowler, McMannaman, Owen went, with Liverpool losing money on potential transfer fees?
    Do you sell Gerrard and Torres at the right price and rebuild or persuade them to stay and build a successful side around them?

    There are serious questions facing a Liverpool side that has to go tomorrow to play a difficult match at Blackpool from all football grounds.
    And this is 2011 reality.
    - the players Holloway is finding by spending a few thousand quid

  • Comment number 42.

    time to knock Man utd off THEIR perch...its coming Mancs...watch out..!!

  • Comment number 43.

    @Football_UK Rosling at Everton? Gabby made a return to the game where it all started for her? I presume you mean Gosling who plays for Newcastle Rovers in the upper tier of the EPL

  • Comment number 44.

    @ 43,

    yes, apologies :)
    I wasn't aware that he moved to Newcastle.
    After all, I'm a Man Utd fan.

  • Comment number 45.

    Adios the 'Pool! Good luck at Scunthorpe, Cardiff, Millwall etc.! I take no pleasure in saying that but I can't help but think that liverpool is going down this season!

  • Comment number 46.

    Sorry to go off topic with the 'greatest british player ever' line, but I just couldn't help myself!

    @28 lists too many players to discuss in detail, so I'll just stick to George Best, (whos is often quoted - wrongly in my opinion - as the greatest). GB was a very great and talented footballer, all I agree I'm sure.

    BUT (and it's a big but!) Football is a team game and Dalglish was, by far and away, the best team player. He had as much quality as GB but he played the game totally unselfishly for the team, and his team mates and the club reaped the benefit. I don't think you can say the same for GB as talented as he was. (Sorry excessive boozing and turning up pissed for matches/ missining training etc isn't my idea of an ideal team mate).

    If you're looking for the best Man U player of all time, maybe Giggs when he hangs up his boots?

  • Comment number 47.

    Bottom line - Kenny is a winner & always has been. Simples !!!

    Good luck to him & liverpool. Kenny involved in the game is better than him out of the game.

    When I woke up on Sunday morning having grown up in the 1980's, I could not help feeling excited about Kenny being back - it is almost right he should be the magaer of Liverpool.

  • Comment number 48.

    At Wolfie Smith

    As nice a fella as Roy Hodgson is, you will find that the majority of Liverpool fans didnt want him as manager in the first place. Nice man, well qualified, but a mid-table manager with a mid-table mentality. Apart from one good season with Fulham Hodgson hasnt done anything and got sacked because after six months in charge we are.......mid-table!

    Rafa had his faults, but no one ever mentions the dead wood he inherited when he took over from Gerard Houllier or the fact that he won the Champions League with such mediocre players. Rafa HAD to make as many changes as he did and when he left the NET value of the squad was much higher than what he inherited.

  • Comment number 49.

    As a Man Utd fan I'd like to put the bickering aside for a minute.

    Firstly, that was a great press conference by Dalglish, composed and witty!

    Secondly, the PL needs characters like Dalglish and it's going to add a huge amount to the season with him in charge at Liverpool.

    A couple of questions for Liverpool fans though:

    I was surprised to hear that Dalglish applied for the job in the summer and was turned down. I can't remember what Liverpool fans were saying at the time but would have thought that they would have been incensed if they knew that?

    I'm also surprised that he has indicated that he would be interested in the job on a permanent basis. I was convinced that he'd decided he didn't want anymore of the pressure that management brings and he seemed to vigorously resist the temptation to return to management at Anfield. Are Liverpool fans surprised at this?

    And finally, I can't believe the arrogance of Comolli! Here's a guy whose hardly in the door suggesting that if Dalglish wants to stay on he will get due consideration! As an Anfield legend Dalglish should be telling Comolli what's what, not the other way around.....and anyway....as always, the Liverpool fans will decide on that one!

    Thoughts???

  • Comment number 50.

    time to knock Man utd off THEIR perch...its coming Mancs...watch out..!!

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    Are you basing that on Sunday's game then? Or the fact that your new manager used to be good in the 80's? Or that your star striker doesn't try anymore and wants out?

    Either way, staying up is your first priority as opposed to knocking teams off their perch as you say.

  • Comment number 51.

    @24 - Like the username but just cos you dont understand Rafas colloquialism's doesnt mean they are riddles, just like the media didnt understand that a calmly delivered assessment which many people agreed with wasn't a rant.

    @32 -they were backed by Billionaires, did they ever need to drawe a list of options and choose the cheapest one?

    Welcome back Kenny, for any doubters regarding his time out of the game? He hasnt been gathering dust in the Attic, Kenny attends many matches, works behind the scenes with coaches and the youth setup etc. His knowledge of players on the European scene is expansive.

    I know many on merseyside doubted Roys appointment. Not his experience per say, more his footballing ethos, and ability to build attacking teams that played a certain way. LMA manager of the year for me is a good honour, but has been won by Moyes, Burley and Coppell as well as league winning managers in the last decade, and Fulham finished 12th last season no? Hardly an amazing campaign as I have heard it mentioned. His away record was cause for concern from the beginning.

    Kenny has already united the fans, football hasnt changed that much (mostly the business end of it has). The ability to motivate and inspire confidence in players is and always will be paramount - and Kenny can do that.

    Let the naysayers chatter away - at the end of the day they still will look to Liverpool like the rest of us - they wouldnt bother with us if we were a 'newcastle' as some have said. As if we werent the most successful English team of all time.

  • Comment number 52.

    I think you have to be a Liverpool fan to understand that Kenny is always going to do what is best for the club he loves, and he would always put that before his own desires. If this means making way for a better man for the job at the end of the season, he would have no qualms.

  • Comment number 53.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 54.

    Kenny did quit 20 years ago, but after a few months break, away from the pressure, he would have come back if they (the club) had let him, but they didn't consider it and went for Graeme Souness instead. They also spoke to him towards the end of the Blackburn contract, but again, didn't re-appoint him for reasons unknown.

    I was initially worried about this tarnishing his legacy if it went wrong, but actually, what he acheived is enshrined in history, what happens over the next few months won't change that.

  • Comment number 55.

    Sorry why am I being pre-moded? I've been commenting on 606 for years??

  • Comment number 56.

    Kenny is proving already he has what it takes to deal with the Media. He's the old Liverpool way of keeping things in-house and never publicly putting your players down like Roy did at every given opportunity.

    Saying the 'Johnson Twitter' was a "Just a joke" and not making a big song and dance about it, because after all that's exactly what it was, a joke. Would love to hear what Roy's media response to that one would have been.

    Saying the penalty decision at OT was not a penalty and the red card not a red card. He may have his own oppinion on these but the Media will never hear them. Maybe he'll have a quiet word with Agger and Gerrard, maybe he won't, but we'll never know, and this is how it should be.

    Saying Torres has played "Brilliant" whilst he's [Kenny] been in charge. Saying he [Torres] has his own "Magic Wand". When he subbed Torres he said "There's only so much a man's body can take". Again, Kenny may have his own opinion on the Torres performance, but us and the Media will never hear it.

    Kenny will protect the players and shield them from the media. He will never publicly ridicule them like a certain previous manager did to nearly every single one of them, oh and the reserves as well.

    People saying Kenny is out of touch with football these days are talking nonsense. It's all very simple in my mind, confidence, belief and desire is what Kenny will be giving the players. The Technical Science part and tiresome contract wranglings will be left to others. Kenny will love dealing with the Media and I think the Media will love Kenny.

    Let the mind games begin!

    YNWA

  • Comment number 57.

    @1

    Why does everyone keep feeling sorry for Hodgson, saying how great a coach he it?

    His career win percentage is a merer 43% of all matches. Considering he's won about 6 league title in his time and has spent the majority of his time in lower leagues shows how poor his win ratio really is.

    His win ration at Liverpool was 32% that's about 1 win in three (this includes the poor opposition he played in the europa league) and at Fulhma where he saved them from relegation, got them into europe and all the way to a final his win percentage ratio was a whopping 29% - getting on close to a win in every four games.


    When you consider Roy Evan, Houlier and Rafa's win percentages were all over 50% whilst at liverpool it really puts it into perspective about how good a coach he really was.


    He is credited with revolutionising the coaching methods in switzerland in the 80's by introducing coaching methods which "brain wash" players to perform a certain job in a certain area of the pitch. He tried to bring these ideas to Liverpool in 2010, a team with the dynamic gerrad and torres. No wonder everyone looked like fish out of water, goes even further to explain the pitiful performance against wolves were players looked lost when played out of position.

    If your a newcastle fan, maybe you should stick to comments on a newcastle article. It's been about three games so you're due a management change. Here hodgson is free you want him?

  • Comment number 58.

    33. At 11:35am on 11 Jan 2011, PetShopBoys_Forever wrote:

    4 teams that won 11 titles, 2 champions leagues, cup winners cup, 2 world club championships, 3 league cups and 5 fa cups as opposed to Kenny's 3 titles and 2 fa cups.

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    I think you might find there is a time scale involved in this comparison. Like Fergie had an extra 20 years or so. Could that possibly be why he's won more?

  • Comment number 59.

    @ 57,

    For a Liverpool fan to promptly ask another clubs' fan to post only on his club's related posts it's ludicrous. Liverpool fans have been tiring us all for a long while, even on match day 606 posts with the Liverpool shortcomings.

    For a Liverpool fan, crying for management change since day one of this premiership's campain, to make a joke about another club's need to change a manager is also a joke.

    Just, to put things into perspective :)

  • Comment number 60.

    I don't understand some of the vitrolic attacks on Liverpool fans and they way they 'treated' Roy Hodgson, apart from a sarcastic 'Roy Hodgson for England' chant, I don't recall any undue animosity.

    Liverpool, quite rightly, have always been praised for unswerving loyalty to their managers, even when it has been going wrong (compare this to times where even Sir Alex Fergusons teams have been booed at Old Trafford in recent history).

    I think in Roy Hodgsons case it was evident to anyone with a balanced, knowledgeable view on football, that it wasn't working. Some appointments just don't fit and when a football clubs position is jeopardised, tough descions are made, its not unique to LFC, in fact, the fact it has happened at Liverpool, is unique.

  • Comment number 61.

    Interesting statistics on manager nationalities in the PL:

    SCO - IIIIII
    ENG - IIII
    ITY - III
    FRA - II
    WAL - II
    ESP - I
    ISR - I
    IRL - I (Mick McCarthy - up for debate!)

    What makes Scottish managers so damn good? 30% of English Premier League managers are Scottish!

  • Comment number 62.

    Only time will tell if he is the right choice.When you haven't won the league for 21 years I suppose a hankering for the good old days is only natural.
    Before any success can be built on I think LFC desperately needs a new stadium which can bring in income like United and Arsenal through the turnstyle.
    The tuth of the matter is that Liverpool are a good six or seven players short of challenging for the Major honours,They have a very good spine with Riena/Gerrard/Torres and a few others, but to win the league you need a good first 11 and then quality cover in all positions.Its going to take a lot of money to make them champions again.

  • Comment number 63.

    No, us Liverpool fans are not dreaming. We are not expecting miracles, and we are certainly not comparing our situation to that of Kevin Keegan and Newcastle.
    What has happened over the past 20 years since Kenny left needs no discussion, and what was destined has happened.
    However, we dont feel the club has been run the right way for these last 20 years, its not been the Liverpool way.
    Seeing Kenny back in the dugout just felt right.
    I've been very emotional this weekend, and i'm not one to get worked up about these things, but just the sight of Kenny as our manager again brought back all those memories. Its brought the old and young supporters together because for those of us who were too young to remember the Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Kenny era are getting the chance to experience it ourselves and see the last of the legends with our own eyes.
    What most other team supporters dont understand is that these legends did not just create successful football teams, but created a brand of football like know other which has become a part of our lives, and admired through out the world. Without this Liverpool way, football and winning is just not enough.
    So those of you who think we are living in the past, you are right. But not for the reason of our trophy cabinet which you think, but because of our philosophy.

    So Kenny is most definately the right man for Liverpool.
    I really cant believe how the pedigree of a manager who has won the league with two different clubs can come in to question. Only three other managers have done that in history.

  • Comment number 64.

    Why do people keep mentioning the LMA league manager of the year award. Have a look down the list of past winners. More often than not its been given to a manager who acheived mid table respectability. Fergie and Wenger have won it twice each, but apart from that it's not exactly a list I would pick a manager from. Even Moyes who has won it 3 times, How on earth as he managed to do that. He's good maybe deserved 1 award, but it goes to show it's not anything to be overly proud of. Roy was lucky to win it when you concider ancelotti acheived a league and cup double.

  • Comment number 65.

    (Out of topic, perhaps, but very much Liverpool oriented and latest news relevant)

    The PFA took the view that Babel made a joke on the internet by displaying a manipulated image of Howard Webb in a Man Utd shirt. I am a Man Utd fan, but I do have to say that seeing footballers being charged for something like that is way too much. The PFA took the sensible view.

    The interesting bit is that a fan posted a comment writing:

    "Babel has been charged so speedily and yet a player who not only admits to cheating by diving but tells us he joked with the referee about it is ignored by the FA? "

    Taking both issues into consideration, on the one side you have a player who cheated to gain a penalty for his team and came out and said it. On the other side, you have a player who made a joke of bad taste perhaps. Thinking about which one is more serious, I would say Walcott's action was far more serious than Babel's.

    The point is: why did the BBC find it contravenes the House Rules?
    And, since it contravenes the House Rules (for whatever reasons) why is it shown as main link to an online discussion?

    Funny, don't you agree? :)

  • Comment number 66.

    re #41, Perhaps i misunderstood your point, but Bannan's Scottish. He actually received his first cap not long ago.

  • Comment number 67.

    @59 - maybe on an open fans forum but a liverpool fan wouldn't go on a everton, newcastle, spurs or fulham page and start moaning about who liverpool should sign, what formation they should play, where gerrard should play etc etc etc. You see everyone seems to have an opinion about Liverpool and they always like to air it. (just look at some of these posts on here)

    Also Liverpool have had five managers since Kenny was last in charge.

    Roy was never good enough for the job from day one - just look at his stats on wikipeidia and then comapre it with the previous managers of benitiez, houiler and Evans.

    He only won 29% of his games at Fulham and only 32% of his games at liverpool and even if the very patient fans had been happy with his appointment in the summer they would surely have started to turn on him now. We gave Evans, Houiler and rafa time to adjust to the job - but in these cases you could see what the manager's vision was and what he was trying to achieve. You couldn't see this with Roy because he didn't know himself because he's never managed in a decent league where you are supposed to win two games on the run!


    Hope that's some perspective for you - now kindly leave and comment on your own team.

    Ta ra

  • Comment number 68.

    @the redarmband

    How is Kenny going to deal with the fact he has a VERY mediocre team? You can try to galvanise players like Konchesky, Agger, Skrtel, Ngog, Babel, Johnson, Kyrgiagos, Maxi all you like, they're still players who would only fit into a mid table team!

    And please save your breath... don't tell me they are good or even decent players as they are not!

    Nothing against Kenny, but he's in for a hell of a task with the squad he has at the moment!


    As for Torres, he'll come good eventually when he transfers to another club more suited to him (i.e. a good team)

  • Comment number 69.

    Football_UK

    Just to correct you, when Theo admitted he dived in the box - nothing was given, as Bendtner was offside. So nothing came of his honesty about the dive. But moments later the actual penalty was rightly awarded for a clear pull back. Now I'm not condoning Theo in any way, but at least he was honest and came out about it, where was the honesty from Berba??

    Babel should concentrate on getting into the team not twitting, but it seems he's another one wanting out.

  • Comment number 70.

    @49

    From my slightly rubbish memory Dalglish becoming manager after Rafa left was sold as a bit of a back-up plan at the time and bear in mind Hodgson was being touted as the next England manager then! Appreciate it makes all the clamouring for Kenny the messiah look a little silly now but us football fans are a fickle bunch! ;o)

    I think Dalglish's enthusiam for becoming manager on a permanent basis may be linked to a belief in the vision of the new owners. Hodgson was appointed by Broughton so Kenny has no reason to resent NESV.

    Pretty sure Commoli was just answering a question a journalist asked him so I think it's a bit of an over reaction to call it arrogant. He didn't claim to run the club, just made an honest assessment of the situation.

    Hopefully Dalglish will bring something special back to the club and be a success but we can only judge that at the end of the season. If he does that then obviously I would be delighted to have such a legend as manager. Still a lot of work to do but the club is a long way from being the relegation fodder some posters would clearly love us to be.

  • Comment number 71.

    #65 Totally agree!

  • Comment number 72.

    @60 - spot on comment.

    The first real balanced comment on here.

  • Comment number 73.

    #63

    I really cant believe how the pedigree of a manager who has won the league with two different clubs can come in to question. Only three other managers have done that in history.

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    Very very well said!

  • Comment number 74.

    @67

    it takes a Liverpool fan to see no sense.

    This blog is the main blog available for football discussion in the BBC home football page. It is related to a failed, premiership club and looks at how a new manager - old legend of the club - would be able to take it out of nowhere and bring it back up to the premiership table.

    Indirectly, the blog is in the interest of every football fan in the UK.
    I assume, having hijacked every blog you can find, so far, Liverpool supporters, you've reached a point where you're unable to understand that this is a not post-match blog, where the two relevan clubs' fans tend to give their opinion about their team's performace.

    I do hope Dalglish does bring some sort of life in your empty souls. Ta ra :)

  • Comment number 75.

    The main thnig is that we the fans are now on the players backs.
    If the players let us down we are upset.
    If the players let hodgson down we are upset a little less.
    If the players let liverpool down we are upset quite a lot.
    If the players let kenny down, if they dont perform for him.
    Its personal they will feel the wriath of the fans.
    They will soon learn, we will never turn on kenny. we will turn on the players.
    They better play the best they can.

  • Comment number 76.

    football_uk

    I can see on your posting history that you like to air your opinions about liverpool quite alot.

    You must think somebody actually cares

  • Comment number 77.

    Wonderful to see Dalglish at Liverpool again. Given the circumstances around his departure from the role last time, I wish him and Liverpool Football Club and its fans the chance to shine again. Any true football fan of any persuasion must feel the same.....

  • Comment number 78.

    With Babel putting the Webb picture up on Twitter, it gave the Media the opportunity to publish it.

    Interesting to see how Webb referee's his next game for Utd now. The spotlight will be on him big-time.

    I'm not saying he was or wasn't biased in his last game, but it definitely makes it more interesting.

    I wonder if Babel will get sent off for a win-the-ball-challenge next time Webb refs an LFC game?

  • Comment number 79.

    Roy..
    As discussed earlier, is indeed a good manager but not of the level that is needed for a club like Liverpool. He was a bit too negative (1 win in away games speaks volume about it) and apparently not good enough a motivator (display of the team in the second half proves that!)
    As far as King Kenny is concerned, then hell ya it is a step in the positive direction as he is familiar with the club and players and would not need the time required to gel in with them.
    Keeping fingers crossed for a good start..!!

    @ 42 well said...
    @ 50.. Na, we are not basing this on the Sunday's game.. nor are we basing it that our manager used to be good in 80's.. coz if we considered this then the similar remarks by SAF would be ludicrous at that time..
    As far as your thoughts on our star striker goes, then you seem to probably know more than him as he has already mentioned to see off his contract!! Get your facts right mate!

    YNWA!

  • Comment number 80.

    @ 69 Montegooner,

    the rule is precise: no contact - not major, neither minor, nor minimal.
    Major, minor and minimal are terms leaving an extremely large room for debate.

    Coming into the Walcott incident, confessing he dived to gain a penalty for his side, playing a Championship side at home, all I can do is burst into laughing. :)
    All teams are at it when it comes to diving, but you at the Emirates have brought it to another level ;)

    Having said that, I can't understand what Arsenal fans have to gain out of that. Two penalties were not given in that match - one identical to the penalty you won against Leeds and a stonewall penalty against Giggs. Man Utd have a title to pursuit winning, this season. I wouldn't mind dropping out of the FA Cup, myself. A 19th title is much more to Man Utd than one more FA Cup this season. After all, we do have to play at least one-two matches more. Don't you agree? :)

  • Comment number 81.

    @ 76,

    if you read my posting history, carefully, you will see that the vast majority of the postings have been positive towards your club, thank you very much :)

    Have a nice reading :)

  • Comment number 82.

    Liverpool supporter here but will try to be diplomatic. I for one think Roy was not given the time or the backing to stamp his authority on the squad, however, as a club the supporters have a huge say in what happens without being involved in the boardroom. We are synonomous for our support and yet the fit wasn't right, partly because Kenny had put himself forward for the role. I agree in part that the appointment does have a feel of sentiment, and that sentiment is echoed because of the lack of success in the league since kenny departed. Liverpool always promoted from within and we are widely known for not airing our dirty laundry in public, especially pre Rafa. This could be the shrewedest signing we have done in the last 10 years, especially bringing on Steve Clarke. It has been reported that Carra is being viewed by the FA for input into the future of bringing on younger players, what bet now that come the summer, Kenny is offered the position on a longer term contract with Carra groomed as his replacement so bringing back the tradition for LFC??

  • Comment number 83.

    Dear David Lee Williams,

    Thank you for pointing out that other fans shouldn't be responding to any liverpool matters on the bbc website.


    I appreciate this feedback and would like to ask you to say the same to your fellow supporters. Please tell them not to respond to anything related to my team, Arsenal, as they always seem to be all too willing to add a comment on an Arsenal related blog.

    Hope you will comply (doubt it)

    Kind regards,
    Wilshires nappy

    P.S. you'd love to stick up for the 'pool against any supporter of another team if you were doing well, wouldn't you? Anyway, distant memories for you, mate!

  • Comment number 84.

    32. At 11:33am on 11 Jan 2011, Wolfie Smith wrote:
    What sentimental claptrap..
    Firstly I'll nail my colours to the mast and state that I'm a Fulham fan, so have obviously watched with interest as the season's events at Anfield have unfolded.
    Liverpool had a perfectly decent manager in Roy Hodgson. But their fans didn't like him because he apparently lacks charisma, and he rubs his face! (Look at Phil McNulty's blog if you don't believe me). Oh, and he also committed the cardinal sin of not being Kenny Dalglish.
    Never mind that he is more experienced, a better coach and is more widely connected. They slated him for buying Paul Konchesky but overlooked the fact that despite buying and selling well over 100 players in his time there Rafa Benitez left Liverpool without a half decent left back and he needed a quick fix.
    And how their darling Rafa has been well and truly shown up for the mediocre manager he is at Inter, taking a side that are European champions and had dominated Serie A for years to 7th place, whilst continuing to chant the mantra that he needed four more players that had become a fixture of his Liverpool press conferences - funny how Mourinho and Mancini before him never moaned about needing more players.
    Now they have bullied the Anfield board into sacking Roy and appointing their other darling Kenny Dalglish. Whilst I've nothing personal against Dalglish, I hope that for Liverpool's fans and the disgusting way they treated Hodgson and never gave him a chance from day one, that they get exactly what they deserve, for the saying that 'you should never go back' to be proved correct and their beloved King Kenny's 2nd spell in charge at Anfield to end in failure.
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    To even try to compare Woy with a mangerial giant like Raf is laughable! Rafa has won La Liga, Champions League etc Woy took a decent team to a Uefa Cup final.

    Perhaps the reason at Inter that Mourinho and Mancini didn't complain about needing new players is because they were allowed to buy some! Benitez purchased nobody and had to sell Balotelli!

    The reason Liverpool fans (Including myself) didn't like Woy is as follows.

    1. Negative Football - hoofball from the back, rigid 4-4-2, playing players out of positon.
    2. Awful Negative expectations - Apparently winning at Bolton is a famous victory and Northampton are formidable opposition!
    3. His purchases - Konchesky, Poulson, Jones, Joe Cole all players who are midtable quality not the level that Liverpool are aiming for.
    4. His cozying up to Ferguson - Not defending Torres from slurs of diving from Ferguson in a game where Nani spent half the match rolling on the floor!
    5. His criticism of the fans when complaining against old owners and for perceived lack of support.
    6. Most importantly his record. The worse by a Liverpool manager in living memory.

    Now most Liverpool fans realised that we were downgrading our manager when Hodgson arrived (despite the media trying to convince us otherwise). We were proven right as he was a disaster from day one. With King Kenny in charge there is at the very least some optimism around the place.

  • Comment number 85.

    50. At 12:02pm on 11 Jan 2011, We all follow United wrote:
    time to knock Man utd off THEIR perch...its coming Mancs...watch out..!!

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    Are you basing that on Sunday's game then? Or the fact that your new manager used to be good in the 80's? Or that your star striker doesn't try anymore and wants out?

    Either way, staying up is your first priority as opposed to knocking teams off their perch as you say.
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    There is something about a Man Utd fan saying star striker not trying and wanting out that makes the saying pot/kettle spring to mind!

  • Comment number 86.

    #68

    How is Kenny going to deal with the fact he has a VERY mediocre team?

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    Here is your VERY mediocre team.


    Reina - Regarded by many as the best PL goal keeper.

    Agger - Danish player of the year 2007

    Skrtel - Slovakia player of the year 2007 & 2008 - Scored 9 International goals (as a defender).

    Johnson - England's first choice right back.

    Rodriguez - 23 International goals for Argentina for whom he is now a regular.

    Kuyt - Dutch golden boot winner 2003/06, 17 International goals, Holland regular. 204 goals in 534 games.

    Meireles - Winner of 4 Portuguese league titles. A firm regular in the International team.

    Cole - Voted Chelsea player of the year 2008 (need I list the players he beat to win that) The one player nearly every England fan was crying out for during the 2010 World Cup.

    No need for me to mention Torres & Gerrard.


    Maybe they just need a decent manager. Or maybe all their International and Club Managers have been wrong all along and you are José Mourinho.

    Couple of good signings and a bit more confidence is all that's needed.

    Enjoy your Prawn Sandwich.


    YNWA


  • Comment number 87.

    Celtic went through a crisis when Dalglish' man was at the helm.. Dalglish was golfing in Marbella/Malaga.. cant remember which..

    Liverpool are going through a bad spell and Dalglish is on holiday.. his job taking a backseat once again.

    I love Kenny but he has been out too long and frankly the people on here spouting the nonsense about his ability to put fire back into the players is just that... his team were only 1 nil down against Man Utd and he stood quietly on the sidelines watching..

    Only chance he has is to sell some underachievers and (in my view) Torres... generate serious cash and make some moves.. this is hard to do in January but he could at least make a start.. that team is needing cleared out.

  • Comment number 88.

    @ 86

    "Here is your VERY mediocre team."


    Team P GD PTS
    Full Barclays Premier League table
    1 Man Utd 20 24 44
    2 Man City 22 17 42
    3 Arsenal 21 20 40
    4 Tottenham 21 6 36
    5 Chelsea 21 17 35
    6 Sunderland 22 3 33
    7 Bolton 22 5 30
    8 Newcastle 21 3 28
    9 Blackburn 22 -6 28
    10 Stoke 21 0 27
    11 Everton 21 -2 25
    12 Liverpool 20 -3 25
    13 Blackpool 19 -5 25
    14 Fulham 21 -2 22
    15 Birmingham 20 -5 22
    16 West Brom 21 -13 22
    17 Wolves 21 -13 21
    18 Aston Villa 21 -15 21
    19 Wigan 21 -15 21
    20 West Ham 22 -16 20

  • Comment number 89.

    @ 86

    (and the prawn sandwiches taste delicious - they're a must-have) :)

  • Comment number 90.

    64. At 12:28pm on 11 Jan 2011, Sparky222 wrote:
    Why do people keep mentioning the LMA league manager of the year award. Have a look down the list of past winners. More often than not its been given to a manager who acheived mid table respectability. Fergie and Wenger have won it twice each, but apart from that it's not exactly a list I would pick a manager from. Even Moyes who has won it 3 times, How on earth as he managed to do that. He's good maybe deserved 1 award, but it goes to show it's not anything to be overly proud of. Roy was lucky to win it when you concider ancelotti acheived a league and cup double.
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    Exactly. Just look at how many English managers have won it, and then look at how many trophies English managers have won in that time frame. It is nothing more than an old pals patting each other on the back award.

  • Comment number 91.

    '4 teams that won 11 titles, 2 champions leagues, cup winners cup, 2 world club championships, 3 league cups and 5 fa cups as opposed to Kenny's 3 titles and 2 fa cups'

    You might want to factor in being banned from Europe, Hillsborough, a much shorter time frame etc.

    Anyone can rhyme off facts. Put them in context and you might eventually arrive at a point.

  • Comment number 92.

    Judging by the comments on this and several other related articles, it's hard to tell who's more fascinated by Kenny's return - us Liverpool fans, or the legions of supporters of rival teams. The majority of the latter seem obsessed with criticising every development at Anfield. To each their own, but surely that time could be better spent discussing the club they do support with like minded individuals. The most comical examples are those who post comments professing to be sick of reading Liverpool related news. Then why bother clicking on the link, reading said articles, and taking the time to compose a comment?

    Returning to the topic, I'm delighted to see Kenny back in charge, and hope he does enough to convince the Anfield powerbrokers to give him a long term contract. It's not as if he's spent the last decade living in a vacuum, so I doubt he will be as 'out of touch' as some believe.

    His appointment of Steve Clarke was shrewd and, if some smart signings are made this month, the road to recovery might not be as arduous as it first seemed.

  • Comment number 93.

    83. At 1:06pm on 11 Jan 2011, Wilshires-nappy wrote:
    Dear David Lee Williams,

    Thank you for pointing out that other fans shouldn't be responding to any liverpool matters on the bbc website.


    I appreciate this feedback and would like to ask you to say the same to your fellow supporters. Please tell them not to respond to anything related to my team, Arsenal, as they always seem to be all too willing to add a comment on an Arsenal related blog.

    Hope you will comply (doubt it)

    Kind regards,
    Wilshires nappy

    P.S. you'd love to stick up for the 'pool against any supporter of another team if you were doing well, wouldn't you? Anyway, distant memories for you, mate!
    ================================
    In the last 5 years Liverpool have won a Champions League (Our 5th European Cup). What Have Arsenal won in that time frame? For Liverpool fans 'doing well' is winning things. It's what makes us a European giant as opposed to a small library club from North London.

  • Comment number 94.

    A managers job today is more about man management than anything else. There are coaches, sport scientists, scouts (how many managers actually go and scout a player now?) nutritionists etc etc. The key thing for a manager is to get the players playing for the club, that is what Ferguson does best and in Dalglsih Liverpool have the best person possible to do that. He has also been working at the club for around 18 months, specifically with the academy teams so hopefully he will give youth a chance.

    What will be interesting is the transfer kitty, no one can give there opinion on NESV simply becasue they have yet to purchase anyone in a transfer window. The next two weeks may show how much spending power LFC now have.

  • Comment number 95.

    after 21 years without a title, did United look at re-installing Sir Matt in a desperate attempt to roll back the years? I don't think so (ok he may have been a bit older in 1988 than Kenny is now!). Still, progressive thinking from Liverpool, all the same....

  • Comment number 96.

    #88

    That is after Roy's management skills. Would you be so kind as to post the League Table at the end of the season after Kenny has had a chance at managing them.

    Also, it might look a bit different after Utd have played away to Chelski, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, Blackburn and Newcastle. Home to Chelski and Man Citeh.

    Unless of course, Webb refs all those games and Rooney becomes a Prawn-Again-Striker. :)

    YNWA

  • Comment number 97.

    'after 21 years without a title, did United look at re-installing Sir Matt in a desperate attempt to roll back the years? I don't think so (ok he may have been a bit older in 1988 than Kenny is now!). Still, progressive thinking from Liverpool, all the same....'

    Therefore because X is negative, Y will fail?

    Hmm.

  • Comment number 98.

    @theredarmband

    Firstly, the "enjoy your prawn sandwich" remark is intented for Man U supporters, right? If you knew anything about football you'd have guessed by my username that I'm an Arsenal supporter.

    Ok, now for your list:

    -Reina better than VDS or Hart? hahaha, liverpudlian humour!All you have to do is type his name in Youtube and you'll find so many clangers!
    -Johnson England's number 1 right back! So? does that mean he is good????? He's rubbish!!! Every pool supporter knows that
    -Skrtel, Slovakia player of the year! Wow, he must be brilliant then, mustn't he? Come on! the guy knows nothing about positioning, passing and has hardly scored a goal for Liverpool! I defy you to find any football EXPERT who thinks he's a good defender.
    -Agger, see Skrtel! My club Arsenal wanted him and we're hardly known for purchasing quality defenders now are we?! He's useless!
    -Babel, Ngog, Poulsen, Shelvey, Kyrgiagos (hahaha), Kelly (were was he against a little known team called Utrecht, way out of his depth and Evra and Giggs had a field day 2 nights ago)
    -Maxi Rodriguez, didn't he come on a free transfer? Would he have come on a free transfer if he was really good? And being an Argentina regular says nothing nowadays. they left players like Zanetti and Cambiasso at home during the world cup!

    Torres and Gerrard are the only quality players you have and they can't seem to hit the proverbial barn door!

    I truly believe that Newcastle, with Carroll, Barton, Nolan, Gurierez, Taylor, Simpson, Tioté, Ameobi et al. have more quality than Liverpool

  • Comment number 99.

    23. At 11:02am on 11 Jan 2011, Football_UK wrote:
    It's the time when Liverpool fans start those daydreams, I suppose, deluded due to starvation of success for over 20 years.

    @ 19,
    suggesting that, had Dalglish had stayed at Liverpool SAF would never have had the success he's had is pure nonsense. Liverpool were already in decline when Dalglish left.


    Of course. Massive decline. Defending champions, on their way to finish second.

    If anybody wants to comment on these blogs, please do so with a modicum of football knowledge. Souness inherited a good team which was top 3 standard, but made it worse with poor signings.

  • Comment number 100.

    daniel agger's challenge was not needless..berbatov is just a cheat!

 

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