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Shanta Barley | 15:36 UK time, Tuesday, 26 May 2009

Must try harder. That was 'Age of Stupid' director Frannie Armstrong's message for Ed Miliband, the climate change secretary, when they met at the Hay Festival this weekend.

In an exclusive interview for the Bloom blog, Armstrong and Miliband concluded that they were in furious agreement that politicians meeting at the Copenhagen Climate Change Conference in December need to aim higher if they hope to arrive at a meaningful intervention to prevent 'dangerous' global warming.

'At the moment the best deal on the table is the UK's position', says Armstrong, 'but even if that got accepted ... that would give us only about a fifty-fifty chance of averting dangerous climate change, and preventing the deaths of hundreds of millions of people'.

And there's even a moment worthy of The Office about 1 min 30 secs in. Enjoy.


  • 1. At 08:28am on 27 May 2009, Jack Hughes wrote:

    Hi Shanta ! Hi bloggers !

    Nice film showing these 2 Climate Cadets. Thanks for the tip off about the drop-dead stare.

    Milliband is worried about negative feedback loops.

    Negative feedback loops make systems stable. He probably means positive feedback loops. Positive feedback loops make systems unstable.

    A lot of the global yawning hypothesis is built on possible positive feedback loops - where some heating somewhere makes something else get even hotter. This all seems a bit unlikely - if the climate was unstable it would have gone bonkers before today.

    The climate seems to be stable at lots of different temperatures and levels of CO2 looking at geological and other records.

    I'm worried that Milliband just doesn't know what he's talking about. He's on record as saying that windmills do not slow down the wind - that they just rotate as it blows past.

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  • 2. At 12:46pm on 27 May 2009, Gates wrote:

    Its strange thing to see. These are 2 of the most well informed people on climate change, telling us that they are trying their best to get the world to agree to changes that will leave a 50% chance of irreversible global warming.
    The problem being that half the world still don't believe its happening.

    The Real Big Question that needs to answered before Copenhagen, is an accurate measure of how our actions will continue to effect our climate.

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  • 3. At 1:24pm on 27 May 2009, MangoChutney wrote:


    These are 2 of the most well informed people on climate change

    I think they just parrot what they are being told. If they knew what they were talking about, they would understand why your link is the real $64 trillion question:

    For decades, climatologists have been engaged in a quest for what some consider to be the fields holy grail: an accurate estimate of climate sensitivity

    The alarmists say it is very high, because clouds are a positive feedback, the sceptics say low, because clouds are a negative feedback.

    The truth is we don't know, because we don't know enough about clouds.

    Until the time comes when we know sufficient about clouds, we should hold fire and concentrate our efforts on being sure we are doing the right thing

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