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Chris Charles | 10:38 UK time, Wednesday, 3 February 2010

"The sandwiches were fantastic today - all the lads made a comment because they didn't think they were going to get any!"
Neil Warnock on a roll after troubled Crystal Palace's 2-0 defeat of Peterborough.

"I hope Arsenal go to Chelsea on Sunday and batter them!"
Sir Alex Ferguson after watching his Manchester United side batter Arsenal.

"I can cry like Roger, it's just a shame I can't play like him."
An emotional Andy Murray after his Australian Open defeat by Roger Federer.

"Since the World Championships I've had a lot of commitments and I didn't prepare properly for this. But that's no excuse."
Phil Taylor not making excuses for his 10-9 semi-final defeat by Paul Nicholson in the PDC Players Championship.
Burnley banner Burnley fan with anti-Coyle banner
"Perhaps they should call me Moses, as I led them out of the wilderness."
Bolton boss Owen Coyle cranks up the biblical references after Burnley fans taunted him with chants of "Judas" during their meeting at the Reebok.

"That's as ridiculous a statement as he's made - and he's made a few in his time."
Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill gets the hump with Arsene Wenger, who accused Villa of being a long-ball team.

"....not if but when we are at Wembley having beaten Man United yet again."
Manchester City chief executive Garry Cook has a here's-what-you-could- have-won moment ahead of their defeat by Manchester United in the Carling Cup semi-final.

"Don't Look Back In Anger. Oasis. Fantastic."
Roberto Mancini urges Carlos Tevez to do what the Gallagher brothers say - and not what they do - following his flashpoint with Gary Neville.

"The scarf is cool. I want one. Mancini is certainly cooler than that Taggart from across the road. He's a good manager but he looks like a dustbin man."
Some might say there's no love lost between Liam Gallagher and Sir Alex Ferguson.

"I love the idea of calling the club West Ham Olympic."
West Ham vice-chairman Karren Brady reveals her dream team - a view possibly not shared by the Hammers faithful.

"It takes two to tango and they didn't turn up in their dancing shoes."
Rochdale manager Keith Hill thinks Port Vale should foxtrot oscar after accusing them of stifling tactics to secure a 0-0 draw.

"Football is like Hollywood - never stand on anyone on the way up because
you're going to have to wave at them on the way back down."
Burnley defender Clarke Carlisle on life in Tinseltown.

"Philippe was as good as we were going to get in our situation."
Philippe Senderos gets a ringing endorsement from new boss David Moyes after joining Everton on loan from Arsenal.

"It was great and if we can do that again, why not? It's better than not doing
it again."
Brian O'Driscoll on the chances of Ireland retaining their Six Nations crown.

"Eleven."
Ronnie O'Sullivan rates his first-round performance - out of 10 - during a press conference consisting of one-word answers at the Welsh Open.



AND SOME FROM YOU

"Birmingham stood still and as scared as a class of first formers at Hogwarts School looking in to the face of Lord Voldemort himself."
Commentary by Jonathan Pearce during Chelsea v Birmingham on Match of the Day after Frank Lampard's goal.
(Phil Howlett, Cheshire)

"90 years old, that's fantastic. If I can even get halfway there I'd be happy."
A not-so-optimistic Steve Bull, who turns 45 in March, talking about Wolves legend Bert Williams turning 90.
(Paul Tuohy, Ireland)

"That's 40 points and we need another 12. When we do, I'll put a couple of fingers up at the bookies."
Ian Holloway on Blackpool's great season after they were tipped as pre-season favourites for relegation.
(Anthony Ko, UK)
Keith Harris and OrvilleI wish I could fly...
"Keith Harris eyes United takeover."
Headline on BBC website. What does Orville think about it?
(Matt K-D, UK)

"Its seems like every foul is a free-kick."
Mark Bright catches on to the laws of the game during the African Cup of Nations final.
(Jon Coluccio, Rochdale)

"1110 GMT: Manchester City target Fernando Gaga is set to stay at Real Madrid."
From BBC website. Didn't know Lady Gaga's brother was a footballer!
(Richard Cooper, UK)

"Adam Jones is looking more like a Chocolate Orange than a Toblerone at the moment."
Commentator Wyn Gruffydd on Welsh TV channel S4C, describing prop Adam Jones' physique.
(Huw, Wales)

"Great saving tackle from the Arsenal skipper."
Andy Gray during Arsenal-Man U regarding William Gallas, even though Fabregas was the captain.
(Billy Sheerin, UK)

"Between the posts - that's where he's gonna get his goals."
Jamie Redknapp stating the obvious after Wayne Rooney's goal against Arsenal on Sunday.
(Tyler Jason, Northampton)

"When the crowd were singing 'what a load of rubbish', I can tell you I was leading that chorus."
Luton manager Richard Money after his side's 3-2 defeat to Ebsfleet.
(Sam Hatter, UK)

"That was page three of the Beano in terms of football."
Lawro on 5 live during Man City v Portsmouth... I've no idea what he meant.
(Ben Hall, Horsham)

"Hamilton have three big centre-halves in the pairing."
Craig Burley commentating on Hamilton v Celtic on ESPN.
(Fred, Scotland)

"That guy can catch pigeons."
Commentator discussing the speed of Newcastle's Jose Enrique.
(Lee, England)

"Former defender Sol Campbell is suing the club for £1.7 for unpaid image rights."
On BBC Gossip Column. That shouldn't be a struggle - even for Pompey!
(Olly Dobney, England)
Andy MurrayBig mouth strikes again

"I never realised my mouth was so big!"
Andy Murray after seeing a replay of him shouting during his victory over Marin Cilic in the Australian Open. His mouth was so large it looked photo-shopped!
(Chris Huf, Italy)

"Tsonga is bidding for his first semi-final at the Aussie Open, as he went one step further and qualified for the final in 2008."
Mats Wilander, Eurosport commentary.
(Neel Bhandari, Ireland)

"Villa and Arsenal both had chances to claim victory at Upton Park."
Caption under picture on the BBC website.
(Tumi J Mbaiwa, South Africa)

"You don't need me to tell you Man Utd are in Red and Man City are in Blue."
League Cup semi-final second leg commentator - so why tell us?
(Michael Winley, Stoke)

"You sense that Murray is on the brink of victory here, even against a street-fighter like Rafa, who never gives up..." Next sentence:
"ANDY MURRAY INTO AUSTRALIAN OPEN SEMI-FINALS AFTER RAFAEL NADAL RETIRES BECAUSE OF INJURY."
From the BBC text commentary of Murray's match against Nadal.
(Mike, England)

"I'd like to be manager of Real Madrid but people don't have a go at me for that!"
Colchester manager Aidy Boothroyd when asked about Kevin Lisbie's interest in a permanent move to Southampton.
(Tom Smee)

"Goalkeeper Nicky Weaver, who left Dundee United as a free agent in January, has joined Owen Coyle's Burnley."
From BBC Scottish Gossip - does that mean Gary Megson is still in charge of Bolton?
(Roysta 5-9, Scotland)

"We wanted three points, we got one. Maybe we dropped two."
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger after the 0-0 draw with Aston Villa. 'Maybe', Arsene?
(Shantul Sharma, UK)



CHANTS OF THE WEEK

"Are you Norwich in disguise?"
Man City fans mocking United's green and yellow protest scarves.
(James Halfpenny, Manchester)

"Are you City in disguise?"
Man Utd fans at the Emirates, hot on the heels of their Carling Cup win.

"Same old Terry, always cheating."
Burnley fans after John Terry committed a foul.
(Aidan, England)

"Do, do, do, do, Susan Boyle"
Burnley fans at Bolton, to the same tune we used to sing for Owen Coyle. Made a refreshing change from all the abuse.
(Jim)
Susan Boyle
Subo - big in Burnley
"Stand up, if your son's just scored!"
Dagenham fans at Shrewsbury to Mrs Benson - sitting in the away end - after son Paul had put the Daggers one up.

"Mrs B, Mrs B, Mrs B!"
When she complied.
(TK, Kennington)

"Rafa, Rafa, sign him up!"
Everton fans after a fluffed effort from Sunderland's Kenwyne Jones, who was heavily linked with a move to Liverpool.

"You're not Phil Brown!"
Middlesbrough fans to Doncaster manager Sean O'Driscoll after he kept the team on the pitch at the end of the game.
(Tom, UK)

"You all came here to watch the Leeds."
The usual chants from the Leeds fans before kick-off at Swindon.

"You all came here to watch the Town!"
Swindon fans 90 minutes later, after their 3-0 win.
(Jonathan, England)

"Benny, Benny, Benny, Benny, Benny, Assou hyphen Ekotto."
Chant heard at Spurs vs Leeds. Phonetic grammar is very popular in N17!
(Nick, London)

"I've got a Shed that's better than that,
"I've got a shed that's better than that,
"It's got a door and two windows,
"I've got a shed that's better than that!"
Havant and Waterlooville fans give their blunt opinion about the quality of Eastleigh's stand.
(Brad, Worthing)

"You're not beating anymore!"
Fulham fans after their drummer put a hole in his drum five minutes into the game with Tottenham.
(Martyn)



STADIUM ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE WEEK

"Swindon 0-0 Leeds."
PA announcer during half-time at Walsall v Norwich, despite it being 1-0 to Swindon.

"You're not fit to read the scores!"
Norwich fans' response.
(George, England)



BANNERS OF THE WEEK

"He's Not The Messiah. He's A Very Naughty Boy."
Burnley fans at Bolton, directed to their former manager Owen Coyle.
(Thom Harris, UK)

"Red Hot Cilic Peppers"
Seen during the Murray-Cilic match at the Australian Open.
(Mickey, England)

Add any quotes, chants or stadium announcements you've heard at the bottom of this blog. Or if you prefer the old school route, email them in using this postform.

Comments

  • 1. At 11:21am on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Surprised you published the Terry chant Chris considering the BBC's gagging order on the whole thing.

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  • 2. At 11:26am on 03 Feb 2010, Chris Charles wrote:

    1. PulpGrape: Yes, managed to get that one through - unlike a plethora of others which were highly dodgy! I had to go on Robbo's blog yesterday and ask people to exercise a bit of caution, which made me look like a right old stick-in-the-mud, but as BBC journalists we have to fall in line with BBC policy.

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  • 3. At 11:30am on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Yeah fully understand. Always enjoy the quotes and glad to see one that I was singing at Swindon last Tuesday night appear on here (You all came to see Town). We'll be singing it again when Charlton visit fortress County Ground on saturday.

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  • 4. At 11:31am on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Oh and also when QPR visit next season ;-)

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  • 5. At 11:44am on 03 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Ahoy Chris.You weren't a stick-in-the-mud,you just popped across to advertise this,claiming Robbo was "In transit".I should point out on your behalf that other vans are available.
    I would like to offer,on behalf of Blogdignag,the following dialogue as a quote for the week...
    bbc blog subeditors meeting, monday feb 1st, scandal brewing as robbo blog is delayed. natives getting restless as posts skyrocket on old blog beyond 2 million posts.

    chris : you just cant say that about jt
    robbo : i want to say that - the whole country is talking about it and im not an ostrich
    chris : you cant we'll be sued.
    robbo : frankie boyle...
    chris : ok we'll take out this this this this and this and qualify this this this and this.
    robbo : not happy. my loyal supporters will say what i wanted to anyway
    chris ; no robbo - I'll go on, as myself, they respect me, and i'll appeal to their reason and better nature to avoid posting anything on the subject of JT
    robbo : yeah right. that will work, go ahead *laughs up sleeve, meeting ends*

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  • 6. At 11:46am on 03 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:

    but as BBC journalists we have to fall in line with BBC policy.

    What the policy of deny John Terry has had sex with Wayne Bridge's missus even though he had to admit he had in court when the judge puleld the gagging order which allowed the press to print any details of Terry's affair with Veronica that they could dig up.

    Whatever happened to investigative journalism? Did it die when you crosssed Fergie with that ill-informed Panorama programme about his son

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  • 7. At 11:51am on 03 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    At it again Adam?Can't help but defend them,old lad,can you...

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  • 8. At 11:52am on 03 Feb 2010, Mod_Rocker wrote:

    And the lunacy over on Robbo's blog jumps over here ...

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  • 9. At 11:53am on 03 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:

    At least I can spell them rather than using asterisks because I've forgotten the letters

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  • 10. At 11:56am on 03 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:

    Hi Chris,

    do you think the posters would have listened to stay clear of the TerryGate (or was it BridgeGate?) had you used sterner words?

    Has it been that long since you were a school boy?

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  • 11. At 11:59am on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    #6 makes a good point. I think the main complaint about the BBC policy is that no one actually knows what it is.

    I think it was Phil McNulty (I might be wrong) who said that the Terry comments/jokes are being removed because they are just allegations. If that is the case then how do comments aimed at the likes of Sir Alex, Adebayor, Bellamy etc get exemption from this rule? It just further feeds the conception that Terry is the darling of the media and is untouchable no matter what he does. Anyone remember how he and other Chelsea teammates jeered some Americans in London about the 9/11 attacks the day after they happened? Not to mention it kind of infringes our freedom of expression and opinion because after all thats what it is and nothing more.

    I know you're just adhering to BBC policy Chris but it would help to know why Terry seemingly has his own special treatment. The BBC had it right when they refused to air the Gaza appeal on the grounds of being impartial to the Israel/Palestine conflict. However, they didn't censor the Have Your Say message board on the issue, people were free to express what they wanted.

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  • 12. At 12:01pm on 03 Feb 2010, Colchester_FC wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 13. At 12:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, CharlieDontSurf wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 14. At 12:06pm on 03 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:

    cfc - instant moderation - what a surprise

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  • 15. At 12:07pm on 03 Feb 2010, Colchester_FC wrote:

    I've just had my Mod cherry popped on another blog. I'm used to it on Robbo but this is a first for me on another blog.

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  • 16. At 12:08pm on 03 Feb 2010, Colchester_FC wrote:

    I can't believe it. i even put allegedly in capital letters.

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  • 17. At 12:09pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    ColchesterFC, on a side note, enjoy being 4th in League One while it lasts, my mighty Swindon boys will be dislodging you once we play our games in hand :-P

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  • 18. At 12:09pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    LOL@COLCH

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  • 19. At 12:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, Rovers Return - HKR AWAY DAYS wrote:

    "Birmingham stood still and as scared as a class of first formers at Hogwarts School looking in to the face of Lord Voldemort himself."
    Commentary by Jonathan Pearce during Chelsea v Birmingham on Match of the Day after Frank Lampard's goal.

    I remember thinking: 'What on Earth is he talking about?' when I heard this. Great Quote!

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  • 20. At 12:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    do the quotes or chants have to be football related or are we allowed a lil leeway.

    dont let Colch read the answer though he's on a roll as it is.

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  • 21. At 12:15pm on 03 Feb 2010, pieandapintduck wrote:

    Derby fans to forest on saturday: "Premiership, you're having a laugh" answered back straight away by "championship, you're having a laugh". Soon shut them up (until fatboy set up hulse with ten to go but i dont like to talk about that)

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  • 22. At 12:16pm on 03 Feb 2010, absitomen wrote:

    "as BBC journalists we have to fall in line with BBC policy."

    So what you really mean is that you're not a journalist in the true sense of the word. Thank god Woodward and Bernstein did not work for the BBC!

    The BBC is funded by the public and, as such, has a duty, in its reporting, to uphold the freedom of the press and not assert agendas or bias of any kind. Nor should they attempt to stifle news by deeming certain items against an arbitrary ad hoc gagging "policy."

    I'd like to know who exactly creates such "BBC policy" and to whom they are accountable, because as far as I was aware the BBC is accountable to the license fee payer through parliament.

    If I wanted my news stories selectively edited, agenda led and full of politically correct bias I'd read The Guardian...

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  • 23. At 12:18pm on 03 Feb 2010, Colchester_FC wrote:

    20. At 12:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:
    do the quotes or chants have to be football related or are we allowed a lil leeway.
    ----------------------------------------------------------

    And what's the definition of a sports quote? Can we use a quote from posters on other blogs?

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  • 24. At 12:20pm on 03 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    9. At 11:53am on 03 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:

    At least I can spell them rather than using asterisks because I've forgotten the letters

    ------------------
    Adam,it's well known that any time someone types Un**ed in full,a fairy dies...

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  • 25. At 12:25pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    ColchesterFC wrote:
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    I am not sure perhaps CC will give us guidence on this however one thing is for sure any relating to a certain JT will be hit immediately

    steady as you go lol.

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  • 26. At 12:28pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    ""Rafa, Rafa, sign him up!"
    Everton fans after a fluffed effort from Sunderland's Kenwyne Jones, who was heavily linked with a move to Liverpool"

    Surprising, that, from the Bitters.

    What's funnier is that, even when we're the crappiest we've been for absolutely years, they're still waaaaaaaaaay behind.

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  • 27. At 12:30pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "I'd like to know who exactly creates such "BBC policy" and to whom they are accountable, because as far as I was aware the BBC is accountable to the license fee payer through parliament.

    If I wanted my news stories selectively edited, agenda led and full of politically correct bias I'd read The Guardian..."

    You practically are when it comes to BBC content of late.

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  • 28. At 12:31pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Chris,

    Does the BBC still have that Big Book Of Words You Cannot Use On Pain Of Being Suspended For Three Months On Full Pay?

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  • 29. At 12:34pm on 03 Feb 2010, I love a heated debate wrote:

    adampsb, at the risk of enflaming a delicate and, potentially libellous situation, I do not think John Terry had to admit to anything in court re the lifting of the gagging order. For one, I don't think he was actually in court and the lifting of the order only allowed newspapers - that bastion of gossip and 'investigative' journalism, 'NOTW', to report the allegations.

    The court's view was that enough people knew about it already to render any gagging order pointless.

    The only 'court' John Terry has had to 'admit' anything is the court of public opinion - and, sadly, the majority seem to be led by the headline writers.

    I'm not condoning what he is alleged to have done, but it is being portrayed in the gutter press as being some kind of unusual, unheard of before event. Man has affair. So what? It's not new, it's happened before (even with an England captain, so I read) and it'll happen again.

    If I'm not mistaken, a certain Beckham had an alleged liaison with a certain female either during or before his England captaincy. I don't recall many calling for his head on a platter back then.

    My, how times do change.

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  • 30. At 12:35pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8493248.stm

    Just don't tell them - they'll never know.

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  • 31. At 12:38pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    #29

    You're missing the point. It's not so much that people are calling for his head on a platter as you put it but the fact that lots of what people are writing about him is being censored. Can't remember that ever happening with Beckham.

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  • 32. At 12:41pm on 03 Feb 2010, Colchester_FC wrote:

    And Beckham picked a random woman. If he'd been doing GNev's missus/ex the outcry would've been bigger.

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  • 33. At 12:42pm on 03 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    32. At 12:41pm on 03 Feb 2010, ColchesterFC wrote:

    And Beckham picked a random woman. If he'd been doing GNev's missus/ex the outcry would've been bigger.

    ---------------------------------
    Only from Adam...

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  • 34. At 12:42pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    31,

    The difference is, people quite like Beckham, whereas LNS is regarded as a scumbag Billy Big Balls who should never have got the position in the first place due to his litany of previous appalling behaviour, including mocking Americans days after 9/11, having sex with teenagers in the back of his car (one of eight times he has now apparently cheated on his wife), attacking members of the public and iffy 'charridee' donations for showing folk around training grounds.

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  • 35. At 12:45pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #11 Pulpgrape

    It's rubbish like the talk of the 9/11 incident that should get modded. The fact that Terry and company were in a hotel at the same time as American's was the situation. There was not any jeering or whatever else you claim merely people having a drink in the same location.

    Anyway, what is the BBC policy on tittle tattle. adampsb is right that the facts have already been said in court. Is it that the BBC don't want to lower themselves? If not, why is the headline 'what does Peter think of Katie's Vegas vows?' doing on the homepage. Absolute nonsense.

    Certain media organisations are getting themselves in a right spin about something that is largely none of their business.

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  • 36. At 12:52pm on 03 Feb 2010, Joe wrote:

    no one seems to have noticed Robbie Keane, this week he went to celtic and stated: "I am a Celtic fan and did not have to ask much about it.", when he went to liverpool he said: "as a fan, joining Liverpool is a lifelong dream of mine and one I couldn’t let pass me by.” you wonder how many other teams it will turn out he supported as a boy...

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  • 37. At 12:54pm on 03 Feb 2010, Smoggy Bob wrote:

    If someone makes an allegation and it's not true, you sue them.

    If it's true you take out two gagging orders..........

    Whether the Beeb like it or not John Terry Cheated on his wife. end of.

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  • 38. At 12:55pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    MrBlueBurns

    I would never bet against you defending Chelsea until your death but I wasn't making a point that was supposed to incite anti-Chelsea or anti-Terry feeling, I just used an example probably a bad one yes.

    What I'm trying to clarify here is this so called BBC policy and why it's applied differently depending on who you are. Still awaiting a response.

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  • 39. At 1:00pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    Is it just me or does the whole censorship of these "allegations" reek of the ongoing repercussions and fear in the BBC due to the whole Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross affair. It seems that debate is no longer an option now for risk of offending people/possible lawsuits....

    By definition a blog is to author an online diary or chronology of thoughts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and this heavy handed censorship is nullifying free speech. Surely the might of the BBC legal team could insert a disclaimer at the bottom of each blog stating these views do not necessarily reflect the views of the BBC. Seems to work for every other corporation in the planet.

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  • 40. At 1:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, graciepete wrote:

    Bournemouth fans at Aldershot:

    "Your dad is a soldier, your mum is a slag" for what felt like hours and hours and hours :-)

    Unfortunately being a Bournemouth fan born in Aldershot it wasn't that funny - although at least my Mum laughed.....

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  • 41. At 1:04pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 42. At 1:05pm on 03 Feb 2010, graciepete wrote:

    p.s. i couldn't give a monkies whether JT was caught out behind his missus' back as long as he brings home that world cup.

    Would someone in your company be fired if they had an affair?

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  • 43. At 1:06pm on 03 Feb 2010, Debs Gregson wrote:

    "Sing when we're fishing,
    We only sing when we're fishing,
    Sing when we're fishing...."

    Fleetwood Town fans celebrate their heritage during the home tie vs Hinckley.

    :)

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  • 44. At 1:08pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    No.42,

    yeah, probably if it was with a work colleague!!

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  • 45. At 1:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "Would someone in your company be fired if they had an affair?"

    "yeah, probably if it was with a work colleague!!"


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8492488.stm

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  • 46. At 1:13pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    @ #36 and #41

    As strange as it may seem it's commonplace for us across the water to support one scottish team and one premiership team.

    Disapointing as it is the scottish team is 99.9% of the time picked by ones religion, with you then "free" as it were to pick your english team, which is normally the one that gets the most support.

    Mind you, spend a day watching Shamrock Rovers or Clabby Strollers and you'll soon see why we need to follow two teams!!

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  • 47. At 1:16pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "Disapointing as it is the scottish team is 99.9% of the time picked by ones religion, with you then "free" as it were to pick your english team, which is normally the one that gets the most support."

    Nothing to do with the borderline racism of sectarianism, then.

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  • 48. At 1:18pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #38 Pulpgrape

    I wouldn't defend Chelsea where something is undefendable but what I do find, on this issue and others involving other teams/players, is that the basis of an argument or discussion is often wrong.

    People are saying 'well, what with the 9/11 incident in his past' and all I'm saying is that the 9/11 incident was largely a tabloid creation which enabled the tabloids to try to put themselves in a good light by condemning something that they construed to be in a bad light.

    Hence, largely rubbish.

    However, I do agree that the BBC policy on this appears to be one of a lot of silence. As I said somewhere yesterday, despite the quotes from the high court judge, the Beeb seem to be trying to keep their powder dry until Terry himself has said something one way or another.

    Expect a bit more action from the Beeb should that happen.

    Ok?

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  • 49. At 1:18pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    Robbie Keane's clearly spent too much time with Harry - he's become stuck in his time warp!

    Leaves Spurs, to join his Boyhood Heroes......

    Wears No.7 Shirt.........

    Only There for 6 Months..........

    In his 1st game he...misses loads of chances.......

    Let's just hope for Celtic Fans' sake it doesn't take him 11 games to score this time!

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  • 50. At 1:19pm on 03 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:

    47 BTP,

    dont worry mate. Its normally either Liverpool or ManIOU.
    So its a 50/50 chance they'll be supporting your team,

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  • 51. At 1:19pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    #47
    Thats why it is disappointing that these values can still hold sway...

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  • 52. At 1:20pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    The following might be a tad to visionary for some but someone has to be a realist.

    " What a loada Rubbish "
    " What a loada Rubbish "

    sang by english surporters following englands early exit from the WC.

    cue: root and branch change in English Football
    the sacking of Cappello
    in depth studies as to what went wrong
    etc etc etc

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  • 53. At 1:22pm on 03 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:

    52 DG3,

    no need to sack Capello.
    His contract expires at end of WC.

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  • 54. At 1:24pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #52 Still waiting for the results of the 'root and branch enquiry' that was going to start after the sacking of McLaren aren't we?

    Are they published, if not, why not?

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  • 55. At 1:29pm on 03 Feb 2010, completeuttermadnessCUFC wrote:

    I know I keep putting the Aidy Boothroyd comments on here, but there seems to be one every week so I can't help it!

    Last night's quote -

    "It's Aidy by the way, just for those people out there. Aidy's fine, more personal, I can still take it, it's fine".

    Boothroyd after being booed off to the chorus of 'Sort it out Boothroyd!' while losing 1-0 at half-time to Carlisle (they came back and won 2-1).

    One of the unsung heroes of the world of football wit!


    Tom

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  • 56. At 1:31pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    I also fear this could be something we look back on as a contributing factor to our early exit, but only if it's not managed properly. If Capello can get the squad together in March, when the dust MAY have settled, and tell them that whether or not Terry & Bridge are best buddies again, this tournament is bigger than them, we'll be OK.

    Early indications are that the players still believe Terry is the man to lead, and therefore he should lead. Hell if Steven Warnock can keep up his good form Bridge won't even be in the squad anyway.

    If however Terry is forced onto his sword and someone else is reluctantly thrust into the breach (Surely either Rooney or Lampard) then the dynamic of the squad could really be damaged.

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  • 57. At 1:32pm on 03 Feb 2010, adampsb wrote:

    42. At 1:05pm on 03 Feb 2010, graciepete wrote:
    p.s. i couldn't give a monkies whether JT was caught out behind his missus' back as long as he brings home that world cup.

    Would someone in your company be fired if they had an affair?
    -----------

    If it affected someone else in the workplace then definitely woudl sack them.

    #29 - the difference between Beckham and Terry is Beckhams alleged liaison was with his PA living in Spain on his own and unsure if his wife was going to join him as their had been talk that she didn't want to move and had been considering splitting up and Rebecca Loos preyed on that loneliness and depression to try and snare him and it has been his only indiscretion (also as someone pointed out he is a likeable and genuinely warm person). John Terry has cheated on his wife several times, had sex with teenagers, has often behaved in an unsavoury manner and is viewed as a class-one git

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  • 58. At 1:34pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    In response to 'Beyond the Pale'comment, see below.

    ""Rafa, Rafa, sign him up!"
    Everton fans after a fluffed effort from Sunderland's Kenwyne Jones, who was heavily linked with a move to Liverpool"

    Surprising, that, from the Bitters.

    What's funnier is that, even when we're the crappiest we've been for absolutely years, they're still waaaaaaaaaay behind.


    Beyond the Pale, with all due respect that's a ridiculious comment to make. Everton are 9 points behind you with a game in hand, so potentially that could be 6 points with the same games played, (24).
    Not exactly a gaping gap between the points is there, do you agree?

    Now lets take into account the events of this season.

    Everton have been playing a depleted squad all season, calling on many academy players, to deputise for many of their best players, i.e. Cahill, Fellaini, Arteta - still to return etc. You have been missing Torres and Gerrard on and off through out the season, and a hand-full of other players (who are blatantly average at best, and yes that includes Johnson, - who can't defend for toffee, - excuse the pun Everton fans). Lol.

    On the game at Goodison:

    There is a good argument Everton where worth a point only a point blank sae from Reina denied Everton an equaliser, and they had a goal disallowed (correctly I would add).

    Mascherano goal, was a complete fluke, and Kuyt's goal was by virtue of Everton commiting half their team forward goal for an equaliser, leaving them exposed at the back.
    So on this huge difference between the two clubs lets see how your team would manage without Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt Mascherano, which is the eqivalent of what Everton have been missing at times this season, - you wouldn't make the top half.

    So to conclude the major differences between Liverpool and Everton are:

    Stadium size: No

    Finances: Yes, - in Liverpool's favour

    Squad depth: - Not really, slightly in Liverpool's favour because of Torres and Gerrard.

    Your team is of the same quality as Everton's maybe even slightly inferior plus Torres and Gerrard.

    All your trying to do is cover up Liverpool's failings by comparing them to Everton. You must take into account circumstances, if your missing half your team, your going to struggle, common sense tells you that, but this huge gaps between the clubs is all in your imagination.

    Sorry!



    When the two teams met Everton's injury trouble where probably
    If you where without Torres and Gerrard

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  • 59. At 1:35pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #56 themightymojo

    Your last paragraph does say something that many people seem to be either overlooking or ignoring.

    1) Terry stays as captain and the other players get in with their jobs as professionals.
    2) Terry does not stay as captain and the squad has a captain that, in a purely captain's role, is less suitable to the job both on the field, and quite possibly have their own indiscretions off the field.
    3) Terry is expected to act professionally with the captaincy taken away and is still expected to be out best central defender.
    4) Go back to point 1 regarding professionalism.

    I really do think that the apple cart risks being upset the most by the captaincy being taken away than for the status quo to remain.

    I don't like what he has done and whatever else, there should be a fresh start after the World Cup, but for now, no change.

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  • 60. At 1:36pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    Ignore the bit at the bottom

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  • 61. At 1:37pm on 03 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    54: I think the conclusion was England would win naff all with a
    foriegn coach so they gave the job to an english one.

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  • 62. At 1:37pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #57 adamspb

    Largely nonsense. The only difference is the want by some people, mainly in the media, to view this as an issue that could spill onto the pitch (with some justification) when in fact all the players should act as professionals when in a playing capacity.

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  • 63. At 1:41pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    MrBB, your right they should act as professionals, but with only an IQ of 50 between all of them - it would spill onto the pitch!

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  • 64. At 1:42pm on 03 Feb 2010, Razor_Ray wrote:

    Having read all the comments above I find the debate regarding JT interesting as no new information has come out apart from the sterling investigative work from the NOTW... who I of course pay particular attention to as every article they publish is in every way the zenith of top class reporting... anyway I digress...

    the particular topic I have found most interesting is the lack of clarity about what BBC Policy is... about anything.

    As it is a publically funded body, why is there not a page on the website breaking down its policies for public consumption? I would be very interested on reading the morals, values and guidelines that I, and everyone else is funding.

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  • 65. At 1:44pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    Jamie,

    As much as i'd admit Everton have missed most of their best players, i think we've been without more than just Torres & Gerrard. For long periods we've been without:

    Agger
    Johnson
    Riera
    Benayoun
    Aurelio
    Masch
    Stevie
    Torres

    Of our regular starters, only Kuyt Carra & Pepe have been available all season. I'm not gonna sit here and say that's the only reason for our bad season as that would be a big fat lie, but i think our injury situation is worse than you make it out to be.

    And while i admit that Everton have the best 1st 11 i've seen them have in years & years, with the exception of Aurelio all of those injured players i'd mentioned would get in your side (I believe you were close to signing Riera), so our squad can't be that bad.

    I do expect Everton to climb the table as the season goes on, but i think the same of us as well. I also think it's a sad state of affairs when we have to go back to winding up the Blues because we can't wind up the Mancs.

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  • 66. At 1:45pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #64 Razor_Ray

    Don't hold your breath. I've asked this many times (particularly on Phil McNulty's blog) and they never come back with anything other than the standard stuff that is attached to an email they send you when your comment is removed. Naturally, you can't reply to that email but surely it makes sense that if a moderator has read through it and come to the conclusion that there is something that breaks a house rule, they could specify what it is.

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  • 67. At 1:51pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    MBB

    I think that is the crux of the argument as to whether he should or shouldn't stay as Captain. Is he still the best man for the job? Undoubtedly.
    FA officials who are scared that it might sour the 2018 World Cup Bid are asking for him to step down, but i'd be amazed if any of the players did.

    Re: the difference between Terry & Beckham, i do seem to remember there being a lot of Hoo Ha regarding his place in the team, and with his sponsors, but it all died down thanks to 2 important factors:
    1) Victoria forgave/believed him and came out to say so
    2) He kept doing it on the pitch, where it mattered.

    I'm pretty sure the same will be said of Terry soon.

    Unless something even worse comes out of course.......

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  • 68. At 1:53pm on 03 Feb 2010, Chris Charles wrote:

    Afternoon all: Thought it prudent to do a 'reply all' given there only seems to be one topic of conversation - quel surprise!

    Essentially, despite what some people have suggested, no-one has admitted to anything at this stage and reports in other publications remain unproven allegations.

    Frankly I'll be happy when it all dies down - I'm much more at home indulging in a bit of friendly banter than coming on here with my tin helmet on!

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  • 69. At 1:53pm on 03 Feb 2010, Razor_Ray wrote:

    #66 MrBlueBurns

    Indeed, I don't expect any form of response whatsoever... I do wonder how far a freedom of information request would go regarding BBC policies would get.

    The BBC is a publically owned company and is therefore legally bound to anwer FOI requests... with the stipulation that it is not in relation to journalistic material. Policy is not journalism, however journalism is guided by policy.

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  • 70. At 1:56pm on 03 Feb 2010, Razor_Ray wrote:

    and Chris... what about BBC policy?

    As I also tried to suggest, all information has come from the NOTW and I personally take that as a pinch of salt. Reaction from club, player and the former Ms Bridge hiring Max Clifford is a far more telling tale.

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  • 71. At 1:59pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    Hi Chris,

    I do genuinely feel a bit sorry for you mate, as i get the impression you're caught between the proverbial rock (the mod gods) & hard place (us lot). I think it's funny how the national moral compass can swing so wildly between "Nanny state" (beeb censorship) & "Moral outrage" (our dear friends Russ & Ross). I'm not surprised you're waiting for official comment.

    I do hope the rumoured Beeb budget cuts aren't making a difference, in as much as no-one wants to be too controversial for fear of being cut (like my beloved 6Music), but rest assured most of us on here aren't pointing the finger at you.

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  • 72. At 2:02pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    50,

    Phew, at least I'm closer!

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  • 73. At 2:02pm on 03 Feb 2010, Razor_Ray wrote:

    ... and yes absolutely with #71... nothing personal with you Chris, I enjoy most of the blogs on here, more of a general frustration!

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  • 74. At 2:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #68 Chris Charles

    But surely we can quote what is elsewhere on the BBC website?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8488232.stm

    Anything else would be the height of absurdity wouldn't it, unless you can explain otherwise.

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  • 75. At 2:04pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    One point i think that has been missed (or maybe not, it might've been touched on somewhere in the plethora of comments) is that if he is stripped of the captaincy he won't be left out of the team altogether.
    Although as a Man Utd fan, I have a latent hatred of all things blue, I can't see how this can have any effect on the performance of the team, especially as it has been quoted the team are still behind him.
    He will still be influencing the game, barking orders and organising the defence. So just because he doesn't have an armband will it really make any difference to his playing of the game???

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  • 76. At 2:08pm on 03 Feb 2010, Razor_Ray wrote:

    #75

    if he's on the pitch he'll do what he always does and that's organise and commit to challenges... you don't have to have an arm band to lead a team.

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  • 77. At 2:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:


    In reply to themightymojo

    I do expect Everton to climb the table as the season goes on, but i think the same of us as well. I also think it's a sad state of affairs when we have to go back to winding up the Blues because we can't wind up the Mancs.

    Honesty throughout, - and in the main and I agree with you. Yes those players you listed have been injured on and off throughout the season, but Everton have had players injured for sustained periods. Ie. gerrard has returned numerious times as has Torres, only to be then hit by anohter injury soon after.

    I think the reason it's hit Everton so hard, and the point you are missing is because Everton have had to deal with all these injuries simultaneously (at the same time), where as Liverpool's injuries have been spread out over monthly periods, ie. Johnson and Benayoun are injured currently but Reira has returned, thus compensating for this.

    I openly acknowledge you have had numerious injuries on and off this season, but your saving grace is many off them haven't struck at the same time.

    Every club will lose a hand-full (two - handfulls, perhaps 10) players to injury per season on and off, that is part and parcel of football.


    Now to your comments:

    'I also think it's a sad state of affairs when we have to go back to winding up the Blues because we can't wind up the Mancs

    When in the last 20 years have you had anything to wind Man United up about. Since the early 90's they have won more, PL titles (not difficult) more FA Cups (3-2 in United's favour I think). More European Cups, - your only trump card, and in terms of Carling Cups I'm not sure, (I think that 2-1 in Liverpool's favour) however I think I've explained myself enough.

    Your only meaningful comebacks I can think of are are Istanbul, and the 4-1 victory you had at Old Trafford this year (which was extremely flattering in favour of Liverpool), and I'm sure you'd have exchanged this for Premier league title!

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  • 78. At 2:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    It's immaterial, anyway.

    We aren't going to win the World Cup and anybody who thinks we are is simply deluding themselves - we won't even win the fights because the locals have guns and also chop off extremities!

    So who cares?

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  • 79. At 2:13pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    #76
    Thats my point exactly, a lot of the furore i think stems from a fear of this having a detrimental effect on the world cup, which i honestly can't see happening.

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  • 80. At 2:14pm on 03 Feb 2010, Holloway2Holland wrote:

    In all fairness, the modding of comments refering to the JT situation seems to have eased up today. Many of the posts I have just read wouldn't have lasted more then a few minutes on Robbo's blog or the ROTW over the last few days.

    Maybe the mods have been told to lighten up, or maybe they're just on a coffee break.

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  • 81. At 2:15pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Serious double standards going on from BBC here. Do you question any of this Chris or just do as you are told?

    Most things are unproven allegations, it doesn't stop the BBC and other organisations writing about them. The big outcry here is why all of sudden with this particular case are we being gagged? If the BBC are so aligned to media darling Terry why don't they put a disclaimer on these forums that indicate the above opinions are those not shared by the BBC?

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  • 82. At 2:15pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #75 irishejit

    If it's symbolism over substance, why the fuss about him remaining captain? Has society become that shallow?

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  • 83. At 2:25pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    You really need to include your 'Save our Mods!' plea in the Review of the Week. That was brilliant! Never before have I seen a polite request so wilfully and blissfully ignored. Honestly Chris (whichever one of you it was), you'd have more luck initiating a 'Give a little empathy to your local paedophile' campaign. 'Save our Mods!' indeed.

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  • 84. At 2:27pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    Jamie,

    Take your point over the simultaneous injuries, although i believe the coming & going has meant we've not seen the best of our top players all season, particularly G&T. I think Stevie's had more poor games this season than in the last 4 put together!

    Regarding the Mancs, losing our Championships lead (however old i was the last time we won one) was a very big deal, and i was so sure it would continue. We've had some memorable victories over them in that time though, inc. a Worthington Cup final, and that game @ OT.

    Speaking of which, flattering? We just stunned 'em, pure & simple. We hit them, they had nothing to come back with. There were no periods of worry once we went in front, and that is extremely rare. Also at the time i was living in Manchester, and once they would finally talk to me, i couldn't find a United fan who thought it wasn't a fair result, or score.

    What i really meant though is that Liverpool fans only really talk about Everton when we aren't challenging United, as a way to make ourselves feel better! By the way that isn't intended as a dig, but it is the truth.

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  • 85. At 2:29pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    Oh, and you should also use that asterisk bit. That was another good one. You really were unwittingly hilarious. You know, most of us had a bit of a soft spot for you, but now I'm getting this picture of you spilling your morning tea to a stream of 'Yes, Mr McNulty' obsequies.

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  • 86. At 2:33pm on 03 Feb 2010, Richard wrote:

    Port Vale fan here - brilliant quote from Keith Hill, especially what with the Dale having been such tireless advocates of all-out attacking football over the past 50 years...

    Great picture of Murray too; anyone could have told him he'd have to have a big mouth seeing as his head's so huge. Loves himself, that boy.

    But why does any old comment "Lawro" makes always get picked? He has all the wit & charisma of a dead pigeon.

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  • 87. At 2:37pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    Richard,

    Thats a bit harsh..............























    On the pigeon population.

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  • 88. At 2:41pm on 03 Feb 2010, Richard wrote:

    87 Where Did The Title Ngog??!!:

    Only on the dead ones. The live ones are prefeectly capable of defending themselves. Don't you feel ashamed creatures like Lawrenson & Alan Green support your club?

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  • 89. At 2:41pm on 03 Feb 2010, dbutler KRO wrote:

    So guys, David Beckham?

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  • 90. At 2:43pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    Lots of good comments on here today. To begin with, #11, you're wrong. On the BBC boards we're never allowed to have our say. The misreporting is often utterly atrocious, but if it's corrected by fact in any way, the facts still have to fall in line with the BBC's own agenda; in other words, a truth that may well upset someone is seldom ever allowed to stand. You're very likely one of those whose liberal, some would say indoctrinated, opinions are held to be reflective of our society and thus pertinent. They're not, of course, but the alternative would be too displeasing to rather too many. For may of us, the purest fascists in our society are the type of liberals who wander around with The Guardian tucked under their arm. It's like a communist code without the cloth cap. As for Terry, we should all have the patience to watch this matter unfold. This morning I had a conversation with someone on the legal side of this; things are seldom expressed openly, but the insinuation is that the news was actually leaked by the very person most people are choosing to support in this charade.

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  • 91. At 2:49pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Another quite amusing thing about the BBC and LNS - whenever they mention it on the radio, like now for instance on Radio 1 - "bit of a difficult time for the Chelsea captain..." you'd think there'd been a death in the family.

    Mind you, if the stories are true, I suppose there has been.

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  • 92. At 2:50pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    themightymojo:

    I have been writing to you as a neutral (or trying to be but it seems my dislike for Liverppol has seeped through), I am not an Everton fan, although I do favour them over Liverpool, I'm a massive Man United fan, which may explain my ardent defence of Everton, in Everton - Liverpool debates.

    I agree with you, which is what angers about Liverpool fans. Liverpool fans love to try and divert attention from their own failings comparing themselves to Everton, - an unfair comparision to make due to financial differences, and one that is only made because of the geography between the clubs (seperated only by Stanley Park).

    When you hear people like Beyond the Pale, dismiss Everton and still claim 'they are miles away from them' I can't help but respond to it angrily, as what he is saying is untrue,

    Note: - I didn't know if you'd include the 2003 Worthington cup final as a memorable game, or dismiss it as 'only the worthington/ carling cup.'

    The 4-1 game I don't really want to go in to.

    'i couldn't find a United fan who thought it wasn't a fair result, or score.'

    To be honest with you I stuggle to believe that comment. Here's my take on the game United dominated for half and hour, and until Vidic made that Howler Liverpool didn't look threatening. This galvanised Liverpool and they where ahead by half time, - just about deservedly.

    You said once Liverpol where ahead, United didn't really threaten. I agree once you got the third that was it, and the steam had been completely taken out of us, but at 2-1 we had spent virtually the whole half (until the Aurelio free-kick) in your half, and had a coupleo f chances to draw level, the Tevez chance sticking out particularly.

    The correct result I agree, the scoreline no way!

    I obviously come accross as a covincing Everton fan.

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  • 93. At 2:52pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    Richard,

    I'm Man Utd fan mate.....

    My moniker is in reference to the title challenge which fell apart on the opening day of the season.

    I can understand your confusion!

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  • 94. At 2:53pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    #90

    To be honest I really don't care who people are supporting or not supporting in this. We won't have a say in the outcome anyway, it's not like a public vote was cast to elect an England captain. The team isn't built around John Terry there are far more important players in the team than him or anything he contributes.

    The issue is with the BBC's sudden gagging order. You're slightly harsh on how we can or can't express ourselves on here, I've never encountered or seen any problems up until now with the Terry story and I've been posting on here for years. Also what is this obsession with The Guardian readers? A person isn't defined by the paper they read despite what panel shows say about Daily Mail readers. I actually buy The Guardian where i work because it's discounted at 30p and makes for a great read on Friday with the supplements and on Monday for sports coverage. What kind of person does that make me in your eyes?

    I like most people want clarification on what BBC policy is, why it's different for John Terry and why instead of simply censoring comments they don't just add a disclaimer.

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  • 95. At 2:54pm on 03 Feb 2010, Richard wrote:

    Coweslepe

    If this wasn't a mere football blog it'd be the place to tell you that fascism is a bit more than a word to wave at people you don't agree with.
    By the way, you crack on with this facile line of argument all you like: I won't complain about your comments. Far better for you to be seen for the simpleton you are. "As for Terry, we should all have the patience to watch this matter unfold..." ...if you [correctly] see it as a charade, why pay it any attention? Leave that to "Heat" readers & other eejits.

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  • 96. At 2:55pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "When you hear people like Beyond the Pale, dismiss Everton and still claim 'they are miles away from them' I can't help but respond to it angrily, as what he is saying is untrue"

    Oh shut up you girl.

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  • 97. At 2:56pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 98. At 2:57pm on 03 Feb 2010, Richard wrote:

    At 2:52pm on 03 Feb 2010 Where Did The Title Ngog??! wrote: "Richard,I'm Man Utd fan mate.....My moniker is in reference to the title challenge which fell apart on the opening day of the season. I can understand your confusion!"

    My sincere apologies. Wrong arrogant moneybags Prem team. Easy mistake.
    They all look the same to me.

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  • 99. At 2:59pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    98. At 2:57pm on 03 Feb 2010, Richard wrote:
    At 2:52pm on 03 Feb 2010 Where Did The Title Ngog??! wrote: "Richard,I'm Man Utd fan mate.....My moniker is in reference to the title challenge which fell apart on the opening day of the season. I can understand your confusion!"

    My sincere apologies. Wrong arrogant moneybags Prem team. Easy mistake.
    They all look the same to me.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------

    Money bags? Have you seen our apparent debt?

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  • 100. At 3:01pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    Alas, I have got a childish response out of Beyond the Pale. Better than I usually get!

    usually he doesn't even bother replying because I've countered one of his petty comments with one of my own that has proved him to be an utter plonker!

    A biased Plonker at that.

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  • 101. At 3:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 102. At 3:04pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    But you can be happy that no longer will you be ignored.

    I will keep a special eye out for your incisive postings.

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  • 103. At 3:06pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Get a room you two. Preferably at a creche.

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  • 104. At 3:07pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 105. At 3:10pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #103 PulpGrape

    Well, that's you told then! :-)

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  • 106. At 3:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, Chelseadub wrote:

    Ms Perroncel's PR Max Clifford said she was finding the attempts to discredit her “very unpleasant and upsetting”.

    Maybe now she knows how JT's missus is feeling! She opened her mouth and now should just deal with the consequences!!

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  • 107. At 3:13pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules.

  • 108. At 3:14pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    A bit of a puff. By that you mean homophobic? Most homophobic people aren't concerned with football. Maybe I used the wrong word 'angry' earlier. I find it ludicrious (beyond a joke in simplistic language for you, - judging by previous comments). You are probably just like your manager (who must surely be on his least legs now) an arrogant beggar, who likes to dismiss any threat to the 'mighty Liverpool', who live off the past, using it to fuel petty arguments, and refuse to accept that the future is looking very bleak.

    Remember:

    United, - making history, not living it!

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  • 109. At 3:15pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    "A bit of a puff. By that you mean homophobic? Most homophobic people aren't concerned with football"

    No.

    Quite the opposite, in fact.

    Good Lord.

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  • 110. At 3:17pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    Jamie,

    Good work on hiding your devil horns! I can understand (slightly) your defence of Everton - It's the same reason i was rooting for City a week ago.

    Taking the piss out of the neighbours is everyone's right, and i would always stand on the side of friendly banter. I imagine that "34 years" banner won't be coming down from OT any time soon! And trying to compare yourself favourably to those less fortunate around you is a natural reflex - as i know from listening to the United fans singing anti-City songs after the last Champions league final!

    If you also look at how poor out team was in that 02/03 season (eerily similar to his one actually), any trophy will do, especially if we beat you lot to it.

    Maybe we're looking at OT game through different glasses, but while i remember your 2nd half pressure, The Rock that is Sami never looked like budging. 1st Half, away @ OT anyone would concentrate on being tight defensively, especially after losing a defender in the warm-up. Our reaction to going behind that day was what we have lacked this season - a bit of belief.

    The fact that Vidic had been lauded as bulletproof up to that point in the season only to be deflated quicker than Robbie Keane's SPL title hopes also had a mental effect on both teams.

    On another note, i and all Kopites wish Sami all the best in getting a Bundesliga title with Leverkusen. Just a shame it's one year too late.

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  • 111. At 3:17pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    #105

    Sure was. Has half term started early this year? Seems like school is out.

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  • 112. At 3:19pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    #94 PulpGrape

    We're obviously focused on different issues. Your concern rests with how and by which means the BBC determines which content should and shouldn't be allowed to stand on the messageboards; this isn't a concern to me as the logic is quite clear to those of us who have had comments repeatedly removed. My concern is that this is the type of issue that affords faux moralists the opportuinity to comment on a situation in which they could never be placed themselves; in other words, if you look very carefully at what is and isn't being said in the John Terry situation, you ought to develop a sense that there's an annoying little fly in the ointment. Despite his alleged behaviour, it isn't John Terry, it's not the lady involved, and it's not his wife who has snivelled this information into the public domain. Which leaves who? The motives of bitter women are difficult enough to handle, but those of weak, bitter men can become quite pathetic. However you read this mess, it affects our chances at the World Cup, which I for one believe to be rather more significant than hurt feelings and snotty hankies. The personal matter is between Terry and his wife; the captaincy is in Capello's hands, which is where it should be. The rest of us should simply quieten ourselves.

    As for The Guardian, my point is that most are able to read the agenda of the tabloids without too much prodding, but the distinct lean this paper slants upon anything remotely political is akin to indoctrination; unfortunately, because it's couched in responsible prose, rather too few are of a mind to look rather more deeply into the subtext. This to my way of thinking is a problem as opinion is reported as fact, and that's not responsible journalism. From direct experience, many of those who carry this particular paper do so with an awful lot of incoherent noise. As for the primary topic, I'm actually not criticising your views, I'm merely stating that the BBC would seldom have the need to moderate them.

    #95 Richard

    You've misread me here, but then past context would be necessary to read it aright. I'm actually doing quite the opposite of bandying around the word 'fascist' to describe a person with whom I don't agree; the point was that this is the type of word that all too often escapes the lips of your average Guardian reader whenever they don't agree with an opinion.

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  • 113. At 3:20pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    School gags!

    What next? Yer momma?

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  • 114. At 3:20pm on 03 Feb 2010, Mightymojo wrote:

    By the way, both of you are proving why United/liverpool sparring is boring to anyone who doesn't support either team.

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  • 115. At 3:21pm on 03 Feb 2010, Spitfire wrote:

    Fellas,
    as much as I am sure we are all enjoying this slingfest, may I request a little discretion so we can continue to enjoy posting on BBC football blogs without any delays or pre-moderation.

    Or do you feel better suited to a McNulty style avenue for banter?

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  • 116. At 3:23pm on 03 Feb 2010, leemosuk wrote:

    If we, as a nation, can put up with Sven Goran Erikson's philandering ways then I don't see a difference here. People have affairs: in the workplace, amongst friends and in the Big Brother House in front of millions! The media frenzy is way over the top and a sad indictment of our society's obsesion with celbrity.

    Let him get on with his job and let those who are so bothered about keep buying their lottery tickets.

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  • 117. At 3:24pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    themightymojo,

    Sorry mate, I didn't realise I was having a Man Utd/Liverpool spar.

    Just having a laugh, not taking it too seriously.

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  • 118. At 3:24pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Fair do's Spit.

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  • 119. At 3:27pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    What are big lad you are, using swear words now eh.

    Quite the opposite, in fact.

    You are just like Rafa aren't you, using the word fact.

    Quite the opposite, so what are you retracting your unintelligent comment, - you've changed your mind already. So now I'm a big, husky United fan, who has never been in contact with his femenine side.

    Speaking of which, I hope this distance between me and my femenine side, is only half the difference between me and you!

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  • 120. At 3:34pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Coweslepe

    You say that we should be patient and wait on further developments with the story (again I have to say I REALLY do not care about it) yet you seem adamant that Wayne Bridge (I presume) is the one who "leaked" the story to the press. How do you know that? Contradicting yourself a little I think.

    I also don't think it affects our chances at the World Cup, the team isn't built around John Terry and never will be, he is not an integral part of the team and I fail to recall an important, meaningful performance from him that earned us a win. If the allegations were surrounding Rooney and he was our captain then maybe I would agree with you, he is pivotal to any chance of success and something like this would harm those chances.

    Chelsea fans don't blame last nights disappointing draw at Hull on the Terry issue, I think they acknowledge that it was a poor team performance, a team that has many players better than Terry. Any disappointing results that England may encounter can not be excused by the fact Terry had his mind on other matters.

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  • 121. At 3:34pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    Who's gonna have the last word?

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  • 122. At 3:37pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #121

    Not me. I'm an individual.

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  • 123. At 3:45pm on 03 Feb 2010, Hey Mods Ngog Away wrote:

    Should be Mr Blue Burn then?

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  • 124. At 3:46pm on 03 Feb 2010, LABSAB9 wrote:

    #120

    Terry got a late winner against Ukraine at Wembley in WC Qualifying.

    As you were.

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  • 125. At 3:48pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    #124

    Acknowledged and not to sound picky but if we had drawn that game it wouldn't of changed us topping the group and qualifying comfortably. Perhaps a knock out stage game where a Terry defensive performance has kept us in the competition? Didn't think so.

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  • 126. At 3:51pm on 03 Feb 2010, LABSAB9 wrote:

    #125

    Agreed - Not many can claim to have done that though.

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  • 127. At 3:55pm on 03 Feb 2010, Eddy Cordoza wrote:

    Re. 26. BeyondThePale
    There is something deliciously ironic about you labeling Everton supporters as 'bitters'!!?!

    You go purple-faced with rage whenever Manchester United get so much as a passing mention! My favourite recent exhibit, from the blog 'United triumph but City take heart':

    "When's the last time Utd gave so much of a monkeys about the Disney trophy?
    Far far the mighty are sinking.
    Tick tock tick tock
    2017.
    The clock is ticking."

    Haha. You must eat a lot of lemons.

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  • 128. At 3:56pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    I have no problem with the guy (Beyond the Pale) as an individual, he is a Liverpool (one of the most biased I have ever heard however), and I am a United fan (probably biased as well unknowingly) there is bound to be friction!

    For me the guy speaks in riddles, and say a lot of things without thinking, and then is left digging himself out of a hole.

    I'm happy to end the debate now however!

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  • 129. At 3:58pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    PulpGrape

    Perhaps my position does seem contradictory, but my point is that what we're seeing is only part of the story and that there's obviously more to the timing of this than meets the eye. What interests me in this story is the motives behind the timing of all this. I'm really not in the slightest bit concerned with the supposed moral implications of the alleged affair. So to clarify, I don't actually know whether Bridge is directly responsible or whether this came through a related source, but I do know that quite a few people familiar with the parties invloved, including teammates at both Chelsea and Man City, were already aware of the issue before Terry had cause to seek the injunction. This suggests that he really was trying to protect his family and others from the fallout and that he wasn't merely concerned with the captaincy and its financial rewards, as the more cynical have suggested. To my way of thinking, the three people most directly concerned would have done anything to prevent this affair from hitting the papers. Qui bono? The answer is Bridge and others with an axe to grind against Terry. It's easier to slice him to pieces behind his back than to have the guts to face him man to man. And to me, that's what this is all about. As for your repeated position on Terry as both footballer and captain, I don't agree. There was a reason why Terry was giving the pregame talk even while Becks was still captain. I think you're leaving out the heart in your equation.

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  • 130. At 4:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #123

    Good effort but if that were true, would all people called James change their name to Jame?

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  • 131. At 4:03pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Lol well I can't exactly imagine Beckham doing a team talk anyway so no wonder Terry took over that role. I do think you put too much emphasis on him though, under McLaren we were labelled as a team of individual egos, under Capello more of a team that can play together. Whether we play with or without Terry is irrelevant to our chances in my opinion, someone else can step in and do his job should it come down to that.

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  • 132. At 4:05pm on 03 Feb 2010, bigg wrote:

    Quote 'its difficult to see if the whistle has gone' espn commentator @ Hull v Chelsea game last night.

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  • 133. At 4:29pm on 03 Feb 2010, LABSAB9 wrote:

    Where's everybody gone???

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  • 134. At 4:34pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    All right, but who? I'd love to see Rooney as captain, but not yet. And besides, how much weight do we really wish to place on his shoulders at this stage? Sir Alex has done an incredible job of moulding him into a reasonably sound human being while retaining the edge, but I still get the sense that that can all come apart at the seams at any moment. The same argument of weight applies to Gerrard. With two notable exceptions, he always looks uncomfortable in an England shirt, much as it grieves me to say. And Ferdinand? I'm sorry, but his moral resolve makes John Terry look like a choirboy, and what would be the gain? Ferdinand's more prone to costly errors in judgement and hasn't the experience of standing up and holding the weight of expectation upon his shoulders. Honestly, I'm not putting undue emphasis on his importance as a player but rather his galvanising affect on the rest of the team. He's a great captain and a born leader, and that's what we're going to need. Bother all the whiney sniffles.

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  • 135. At 4:40pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    I don't have anyone in mind to replace him as captain but as a defender there are plenty. I agree with you Rooney as future captain but not yet, too much of a burden for him, the expectation he will carry going to South Africa will be more than enough already. Gerrard this season is failing to convince me of his place in the team let alone the captaincy. I know he is surrounded by a lot of mediocrity at Liverpool but he's had a very poor season by his standards, Lampard is playing very well and has been better in an England shirt, never thought I would of said that at the beginning of the season. I think Ferdinand is a good defender, prone to the odd error yes and he has yet to convince that he can stay injury free, if he had played all season I'm sure his good performances would substantially outweigh the bad ones as they did in previous seasons.

    The simple answer is I don't know. No one mentions Barry as a potential captain.

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  • 136. At 4:49pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    For those of you who can't understand Keane following Liverpool and being a fan of Celtic, it's a bit like thinking you live in a democracy when you have a Queen as head of state...
    Contradictory at first but if you bother to look deeper you would understand.

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  • 137. At 4:50pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    For those of you discussing the Beebs blackout of 'free speech' I guess you imagine you live in a true democracy. You better wake up to the reality of your lives.

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  • 138. At 4:51pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    96. At 2:55pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
    "When you hear people like Beyond the Pale, dismiss Everton and still claim 'they are miles away from them' I can't help but respond to it angrily, as what he is saying is untrue"

    Oh shut up you girl.
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    Wow, so mature!

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  • 139. At 4:52pm on 03 Feb 2010, MrBlueBurns wrote:

    #134 & #135

    I think Barry was captain at Villa for a while. However, the very fact that he is barely mentioned is perhaps testament to how much people look at him (or not as the case may be) when looking for inspiration.

    Anyway, whilst I am of the opinion that changing captain at this time for this current reason is too much disruption, I will spend a moment running the rule over those who might take on the role, and perhaps compare them to Terry's current position as well. (This assumes that we are comparing like with like and the plays perform professionally and no matter what is in the background of the chosen one.)

    Rio - On the field - calm, to the point of being sometimes too quiet on the pitch. And inconsistent. Off the field - missed drugs test and the Man U party where he only invited those single girls.

    Gerrard - On the field - not having a great season though has proved quite inspirational at (infrequent) times in a Liverpool shirt. Off the field - let's not even mention his visit to that nightclub!

    Rooney - On the field - in sparking form and is maturing. Problem is though that his discipline is inversely proportional to how well things are going on the pitch. Leaders aren't needed when things are going well, and when they're not going well, Rooney goes headless chicken and his dissent could be a real problem. Off the field - apart from that granny and getting sued by Moyes?

    Lampard - On the field - calmness personified but maybe too quiet to really lead? When he has been captain at Chelsea in Terry's absence, he doesn't quite carry that chest thumping aura that Terry does. Off the field - has had little transgressions but is more and more lauded by journalists, including a recent award at the Football Writers dinner, for his eloquence and maturity.

    Barry - On the field - calm but again, to the point of quiet and inconspicuousness. Off the field - all good to my knowledge.

    In conclusion, keep things as they are.

    There, that was alot of help wasn't it!

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  • 140. At 4:52pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    For those of you overusing the phrase "for those of you" you better wake up to understand that you don't live in a democracy.

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  • 141. At 4:54pm on 03 Feb 2010, Storm of Swords wrote:

    Think I've more than used my posting quota for the day. Catch you later folks.

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  • 142. At 4:54pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    Mr Blue Burns, I disagree with your take on Rooney's discipline, he has been impecable this season. A footballers ability to control a football match and read a game has nothing to do with his ability to honour his marriage vows. The naming of Bridge in the whole thing is a red herring, the two of them will probably compare notes :-)

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  • 143. At 4:55pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    James,

    No, you're absolutely right, it's just me having a bit of a dig at the neck-end of an annoying day; no sleight on you personally (honestly, I can't remember ever coming across you, as it were) - just having a push at the old boundaries, following on from previous blogs.

    I apologise.

    The clock IS ticking, though :)

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  • 144. At 4:56pm on 03 Feb 2010, Coweslepe wrote:

    Terry has too powerful a voice in the dressing room for Barry to have his heard. Lampard is more lieutenant than leader, and though this may well be due to Terry himself, you couldn't very well have the former as captain of England while Terry retains the captaincy at Chelsea. I like Ferdinand well enough, but he's not a step up from Terry by any means. And I really think you misread Terry as a player. It seems you expect something quite special from him in terms of his tangible contribution to results. My feeling is that Terry is solid and dependable at every turn, and that's what I actually want in a centreback. And besides, he does score the occasional goal, quite blisteringly as a matter of fact. His positional sense is extraordinary, and he's not a fluffpiece always pansying about with the ball, which is somewhat refreshing. Ferdinand's little wanderings may well cause ulcers during the World Cup, and for my part at least, I want Terry beside him bellowing into his ear. Honestly, what more do you want from a central defender? My thought is that if we all continue messing about with this and have third-rate ministers one-legging it onto the bandwagon calling for his removal, then we're only months away from another four years of expectation and grief.

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  • 145. At 4:59pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    And perhaps we, as a country, shouldn't be putting too much emphasis on the captaincy anyway - it's not like the captain does anything (apart from, in this case, attempt to profit from it).

    I read somewhere (perhaps one of these blogs the other day) that in Italy the captain's armband is given to the player with the most caps.

    Mind you, if the story on the main page is to be believed and Terry is not going to at least OFFER his resignation (Capello could always reject the offer) then IMO that shows a level of crass misreading of the situation that beggars belief.

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  • 146. At 5:04pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    collie,

    I'm immature on an internet blog. Big deal.

    It's more fun than having to read your dreary posts and Big Brother ranting.

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  • 147. At 5:05pm on 03 Feb 2010, CaptKrimbo wrote:

    #47
    Sectarianism is bigotry based on ideology. Nothing to do with Racism. Back to school, mate.

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  • 148. At 5:06pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    147,

    Which is why I used the word 'borderline'.

    Tssch.

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  • 149. At 5:07pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    And anyway, isn't racism an ideology based upon the belief that one person/group is better or worse than another dependant on their race?

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  • 150. At 5:07pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    146. At 5:04pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:
    collie,

    I'm immature on an internet blog. Big deal.

    It's more fun than having to read your dreary posts and Big Brother ranting.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Why limit yourself :-)

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  • 151. At 5:09pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Because it's a BBC blog which generally ends up a pile of shite anyway, so I might as well get in early. I save my maturity for more worthwhile things.

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  • 152. At 5:12pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    What's with the big brother bit? You lost me there!

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  • 153. At 5:14pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    To be honest, I think I've lost myself a bit :)

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  • 154. At 5:17pm on 03 Feb 2010, collie21 wrote:

    pmsl. I have read an inordinate amount of manure about the whole thing if you ask me, there is a lot to be said about not taking the footie or the blogs too seriously.

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  • 155. At 5:18pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    But when I do that I get flamed lol

    Damned if you do....

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  • 156. At 5:28pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Look, when it comes to football, and especially my team as far as I'm concerned on these blogs, what's the point?

    There's a number of reasons why we're shite this season, not one of them to do with 'Benitez being crap', but all we get on here is 'Benitez is crap' - no mention of 16 defensive changes, no mention or loss of form to key players, no mention of new players coming in and having to adjust, just the usual pish like 'two-man team', 'spent £250m', 'can't find good cheap players', 'zonal defense' - the usual pish, none of which has any basis in fact.

    So why bother?

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  • 157. At 5:33pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    And tonight I'm drinking vodka redbull out of a 2 litre pop bottle - after a month off and a stone and a half lost, I think I've earned it.

    Strap yourselves in....

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  • 158. At 5:35pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    (This poster neither recommends nor advocates drinking vodka redbull out of a 2 litre pop bottle)

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  • 159. At 5:42pm on 03 Feb 2010, Jamie Riley wrote:

    Beyond the Pale:

    Apology accepted and appreciated, although my name is Jamie not James.
    I've just had my tea after getting home from work, and after reading through some of our comments, they where beginning to get a bit heated, - although funny!

    That's how it can get when you let your emotions run away with you, in the middle of battle and that's what it was turning down.

    It wasn't really the Everton digs that wound me up, it was some of your comments on the 'City take heart' blog posted by Phil last weeK.

    Although you clearly love Liverpool, I'm not sure your main motive in blogging isn't to wind United fans up! Lol.

    Anyway I'm willing to bury the hatchet, look forward to arguments in the future!




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  • 160. At 5:47pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Jamie,

    You get me all wrong, mate.

    You think I take any notice whatsoever what I actually post? That's where you're going wrong!

    No need to bury the hatchet, there's no hatchet to bury.

    Appreciated anyway, though :)

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  • 161. At 5:52pm on 03 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Anyone else see the irony in this?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8493149.stm

    "The conclusions were based on 1,319 responses to an on-line questionnaire."

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  • 162. At 6:07pm on 03 Feb 2010, Chevy_bass wrote:

    Does anyone remember Wayne Bridge's performance in our dire loss to Croatia in the last qualifying campaign? Absolutely awful, one of the worst performances I've ever seen in an England shirt (And I remember Carlton Palmer's glittering performance!!)
    Personally I think we should collectively raise our glasses to the former Mrs Bridge, she's done us a massive favour!

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  • 163. At 6:24pm on 03 Feb 2010, RobNox wrote:

    "Donovan is neat, tidy, disciplined and has come in and coincided with Everton’s season turning completely around. That’s no coincidence."

    Lawro singing the praises of Landon Donovan on his blog.

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  • 164. At 7:36pm on 03 Feb 2010, AcidicHaddock wrote:

    For any one who wonders why an potentially libelous comments are removed do a quick google search for "Sheffield Wednesday v Neil Hargreaves" and you will see why. The shameful episode where Sheff Wed tried to sue their own fans.

    Until the libel laws in this country are overhauled, then it's for your own good. If you don't like that, go and post on a site that doesn't actually care if you get sued.

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  • 165. At 7:42pm on 03 Feb 2010, josua henshaw wrote:

    very good and very funny

    i feel like you're gonna getting some good chants for 40000 leeds united fans tonight

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  • 166. At 7:56pm on 03 Feb 2010, Me_Just_me wrote:

    As stakeholders in the BBC (wefund it with the tv tax) surely we can request to see the BBC policy on allegations in writing? As I am registered my e-mail address in on your records I will await it with baited breath. Although I think there is more chance of an England footballer being able to keep his tackle in his pants........... Alledgedly. (just in case)

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  • 167. At 7:58pm on 03 Feb 2010, Me_Just_me wrote:

    On Liverpool as a fan I posted on minshulls blog that in my opinion the one factor no-one seems to take into account in the poor form this season is the loss of big sami for nothing in the summer

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  • 168. At 01:29am on 04 Feb 2010, BojanglesOfOz wrote:

    39. At 1:00pm on 03 Feb 2010, irishejit wrote:

    Is it just me or does the whole censorship of these "allegations" reek of the ongoing repercussions and fear in the BBC due to the whole Russell Brand/Jonathan Ross affair.
    =======================================

    When did Russell Brand have an affair with Jonathon Ross??...

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  • 169. At 06:11am on 04 Feb 2010, moses shola isaiah wrote:

    ''All the Arsenal players look like footballer''
    Comment from the commentator of Bolton vs Arsenal match, well i wonder what the Bolton guys look like, beautician?

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  • 170. At 09:00am on 04 Feb 2010, Andrew wrote:

    In relation to Terry:- it's his marriage he's putting at risk so his problem. Plus, have you seen the girl? Definitly worth a go.

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  • 171. At 09:23am on 04 Feb 2010, jamdoonsouth wrote:

    as BBC journalists we have to fall in line with BBC policy.

    So what about the freedom of the press, i thought that was one of the laws of the land.
    Added to the fect that we, the public, fund the BBC, then we should be able to state our point of view as we see fit, obviously within the blog rules, but we also expect our "free press" to report the news stories unbiasedlyh, not put a gagging order on a specific subject, especially when the courts of the land have removed the gagging order.

    Poor show by the BBC in my opinion!

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  • 172. At 10:10am on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Dear Chris,
    Looking forward to next week when thing go back to normal.Good luck with ROTW,just don't put your tin lid away just yet...

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  • 173. At 10:35am on 04 Feb 2010, Andrew wrote:

    My mate sent me a text on Sunday morning after the tennis final saying "If I was serving well I reckon I'd beat Murray"

    He also blames bad contacts on his inability to regularly score 100+ breaks in snooker.

    Plus, if he got his eye in, he'd probably beat Phil Taylor too.

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  • 174. At 11:06am on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Andrew,he's not called Walter is he?

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  • 175. At 11:22am on 04 Feb 2010, Andrew wrote:

    Correct Jacks, he's not called Walter.

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  • 176. At 11:45am on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Is he Roger O'Bristow?

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  • 177. At 12:49pm on 04 Feb 2010, LABSAB9 wrote:

    #176.

    I'll admit i had to think about it for a second but that sir is class!!!

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  • 178. At 1:42pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Labs,my second guess was to be Bjorn Hendrylowe...

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  • 179. At 1:57pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Then there is the least famous Beach Boy,Pete "hurricane" Wilson.

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  • 180. At 2:09pm on 04 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    hello Jacks. very quiet on the beeb at the mo.

    here for what its worth is my quote for the day

    " I dont swim in the sea coz the fish make love in it "

    not quite footy related agreed.

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  • 181. At 2:12pm on 04 Feb 2010, LABSAB9 wrote:

    Jacks Quality

    What about somebody not so good

    Tim DavisMardle???

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  • 182. At 2:13pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Hello DG3.A personal favourite of mine is....Never hit your mother with a shovel.It leaves a dull impression on her mind.

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  • 183. At 2:14pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Steffi "Whirlwind" Whitlock?

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  • 184. At 2:15pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Andre Daywade?

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  • 185. At 2:17pm on 04 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    hahaaaaaaa.

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  • 186. At 2:21pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    DG3,I've ordered "The Division Bell" from Amazon.Will let you know what I think.

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  • 187. At 2:27pm on 04 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    jacks: yes ok I am sure you will like it and dont forget the best way to
    listen to the floyd is to have your headphones on, that way you
    pick up all the bits going on musically etc in the background,
    it really is like painting pictures but useing music as the
    medium as opposed to paints etc.

    enjoy!

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  • 188. At 2:30pm on 04 Feb 2010, Andrew wrote:

    No you're all wrong, he's called Dave.

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  • 189. At 2:32pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Oh,Dave as in David Higginsvanbarneveld..

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  • 190. At 2:32pm on 04 Feb 2010, Andrew wrote:

    it really is like painting pictures but useing music as the
    medium as opposed to paints etc.
    ----------------------------------------------------------

    Pink Floyd still influencing people with LSD I see then.....

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  • 191. At 2:32pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    re 187 Thanks DG3.Looking forward to it..

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  • 192. At 2:34pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Hang on.The "D" must be Steve Davis,"S" for Pete Sampras,"L"...hmmm struggling for a snooker player LLiang Wienbo?

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  • 193. At 2:35pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    No,it's darts for "L".John Lowe,of course...

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  • 194. At 2:43pm on 04 Feb 2010, Fed wrote:

    I assume that somebody has told Owen Coyle that Moses led his people into the Wilderness?

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  • 195. At 2:44pm on 04 Feb 2010, davidgilmourthe3rd wrote:

    Andrew

    Hi.

    Now thats a v interesting comment that may well have been the case for
    many years ago but i can assure you no pharmacutical enhancements are
    required nor have they ever been to appreciate the artistry.

    I would defo warn not to use such stuff.

    But you are correct some are convinced the experience is greater via
    the use of drugs, as for me its not my scene.

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  • 196. At 2:58pm on 04 Feb 2010, shrimpkebab wrote:

    "1110 GMT: Manchester City target Fernando Gaga is set to stay at Real Madrid."
    From BBC website. Didn't know Lady Gaga's brother was a footballer!

    Seriously?? This one got in?? Its not even right, let alone funny.....

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  • 197. At 3:04pm on 04 Feb 2010, simon samm wrote:

    68. At 1:53pm on 03 Feb 2010, Chris Charles wrote:
    Afternoon all: Thought it prudent to do a 'reply all' given there only seems to be one topic of conversation - quel surprise!

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Hi Chris - Having read comments 1-68, I disagree..the main topic to my eyes seemed to be the issue of the BBC policy?

    Can you shed some light on this? or continue to dodge the question??


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  • 198. At 3:06pm on 04 Feb 2010, simon samm wrote:

    196. At 2:58pm on 04 Feb 2010, shrimpkebab wrote:
    "1110 GMT: Manchester City target Fernando Gaga is set to stay at Real Madrid."
    From BBC website. Didn't know Lady Gaga's brother was a footballer!

    Seriously?? This one got in?? Its not even right, let alone funny.....
    -------------------------------------------------

    I know, I even cringed at this one buddy.

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  • 199. At 3:49pm on 04 Feb 2010, ANCELOTTERI wrote:

    everton are the only real club in merseyside

    liverpool are a joke of a team

    comparing themselves to everton

    its like chelsea comparing themselves to fulham

    i wonder how long will it be before deluded liverpool fans bring up thier favorite numbers again

    18 and 5

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  • 200. At 3:54pm on 04 Feb 2010, Peter wrote:

    To the Outhere Brothers 90's Classic : Boom Boom Boom. 'A boom-boom-boom let me hear you say bale BALE'

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  • 201. At 4:02pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    Classic?

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  • 202. At 5:15pm on 04 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    I see Mark Bright has been modded mow!

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  • 203. At 5:19pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    As in 5 men went to mow BTP?
    And good evening as well...

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  • 204. At 6:31pm on 04 Feb 2010, united_4_life wrote:

    I am a Chinese, and I thought this only happens in China. Never know that you cant express your opinions freely on BBC!

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  • 205. At 6:37pm on 04 Feb 2010, JacksinBuxton wrote:

    It appears so united_4_life

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  • 206. At 7:22pm on 04 Feb 2010, blood on the tracks wrote:

    Chris - I too would like some light shed on BBC policy. But then I was always taught that news had to be like fish - fresh.

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  • 207. At 9:28pm on 04 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    Is it true that John Terry's got a role in the new Ray Cooney comedy sequel, Run For Your Mate's wife?

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  • 208. At 9:51pm on 04 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    http://img694.yfrog.com/img694/7421/chocorange.jpg

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  • 209. At 11:15pm on 04 Feb 2010, BeyondThePale wrote:

    He was only the England captain,
    But he dribbled in the opposition box.

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  • 210. At 00:46am on 05 Feb 2010, Redpalaceblueskybulls wrote:

    You gotta love the "Life of Brian" reference.

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  • 211. At 07:09am on 05 Feb 2010, I dont want a display name wrote:

    Former Sweden striker Tomas Brolin wants to improve his goal scoring tally for the national team - 12 years after retiring from football.
    The 40-year-old claims he should have been credited for a goal given to team-mate Roland Nilsson 19 years ago.
    If the official record is changed, Brolin would rise to seventh place among Sweden's all-time top scorers.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8496584.stm
    Obviously a man with less worries than most of us.

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  • 212. At 12:53pm on 05 Feb 2010, airfix_9 wrote:

    Re: "You're not beating anymore!"
    Fulham fans after their drummer put a hole in his drum five minutes into the game with Tottenham.
    (Martyn)

    I confess to being said drummer and it was the Man U game, not Spurs. And it wasn't 5 minutes in, it was as the team were coming out on the first hit. Lugged it all the way in and back home again for one aborted and stranlged bang.

    Also, chant at Fulham vs Portsmouth, aimed at Angelos Basinas who was taking a corner and, for reasons that no-one seems able to explain, had no number or name on his shirt:~

    "You can't afford a number!"

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  • 213. At 10:26pm on 07 Feb 2010, Tim wrote:

    Of John Terry "I love it when he does this, he wins the ball there and then he plays away"

    Not the best choice of words from Garth Crooks on MOTD2

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  • 214. At 4:15pm on 09 Feb 2010, JacksfromBuxton wrote:

    I don't know if you check them this late,Chris.Good luck tonight.

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  • 215. At 10:56am on 10 Feb 2010, JacksfromBuxton wrote:

    hee hee.Look forward to the next blog CC...

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