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Rebecca Denton, Online Exec | 21:00 UK time, Thursday, 1 March 2012





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  • Comment number 1.

    Oooh intresting!

  • Comment number 2.

    Hi brearey, is that a picture of McNair in the box?

  • Comment number 3.

    Tom's Box! oohh! What's inside! Stake and chips anyone and....huh? What's that! Something to make a bomb!

  • Comment number 4.

    You could even transform it into a small swimming pool

  • Comment number 5.

    doesn't much look like bombe-making-stuff, only vampire-killing stuff and mementos, and a book, a journal?

  • Comment number 6.

    A question is.

    What's in the journal?

  • Comment number 7.

    A book, possibly a Bible? Plenty of stakes, a bottle of Holy Water and a picture of McNair.

  • Comment number 8.

    holy crap that's a big stake!
    MancVamp - do you mean the bottle thing? I reckon it's holy water.
    Tom should put up that photo of McNair, there'd be 2 pictures of werewolves loved and lost :(

  • Comment number 9.

    Is that a bottle of holy water? or just a bottle and a crucifix postcard next to each other?

  • Comment number 10.

    I think that postcard is glued to the bottle, looks like it anyway

  • Comment number 11.

    A block with a crucifix on, something which looks like McNair's Bible (from the dogfight rescue), lots of hand-carved stakes (with ingrained bloodstains), holy water, hankie full of fangs (and necklace), photo which I think is of McNair (goodness know when that was taken).

  • Comment number 12.

    Bottle of cooking oil - very nice postcard of a Cross. .. The pic is the bottom half of the 'Tom's Wall of Dreams' pic.

  • Comment number 13.

    Sackcloth (maybe a bag), and some whittled wolves, one complete the other not started.

  • Comment number 14.

    A wolf head - is it on a stake?

    Now the book. Journal/Bible is not in the best condition the bindings a bit loose.

  • Comment number 15.

    Well it is a funny olive-oil brown looking water under the magnifying glass - but hey, I'm easy - holy water...

    Meh... gotta go! Night Blog!

  • Comment number 16.

    isn't that book a little thin for a bible? Or maybe it's just of the new testatment.

  • Comment number 17.

    I wonder who hes making the new wolf carving for, Eve? He seemed in the habbit of giving them out and leaving them to watch over/protect people in s3.

  • Comment number 18.

    Night Manc, you never said which bedtime story you wanted!

  • Comment number 19.

    I like the little box of teeth with it's carving.

  • Comment number 20.

    hello guys and gals,
    sorry was a bit late
    Had to complete a special ultra-secret project at the lab
    sorry, can't say more
    yes, really, really top secret
    (Saint donning the smugest smile she can)
    ok, you could say, just a little bit of watering for a very delicate dehydrated... plant of the Ananas specie!

    ok what do we have here?
    holy water in a squiking bottle
    a thick bible book with some loosely folded pages ?
    a whittle wolf head
    a few stakes
    Dad's pic
    some wooden beaker?
    and something in a package carefully wrapped with some curious face on the paper - what sort of face has been drawn?
    vampire? werewolf? curiously almost feminine? THE FAMOUS 'MOM' who never was????

  • Comment number 21.

    Hmmm... looks like a How to Kill Vampires starter Kit complete with instruction manual. Get one now at the low low price of one scratch by a werewolf. Available for a limited time only in Barry, terms and conditions apply.

  • Comment number 22.

    @SAINTIXE56 I think that may not be a package but an unfinished carving. Nother wolf perhabs?

  • Comment number 23.

    It's not much in the way of 'treasured possessions' for poor Tom is it?

    It's more of a survival kit. Or as Haz says 'How to Kill Vampires' starter kit.

  • Comment number 24.

    Ooh, I'd forgotten about Tom's penchant for whittling. Would have thought Eve's cot would be surrounded by little figures. Still, maybe the rota keeps him too busy these days!

  • Comment number 25.

    Maybe Tom should teach Hal to whittle, it would certainly keep him busy and give him another distraction.

  • Comment number 26.

    @BigBadDog whittling would be a bit messy for Hal, I think he'd rather do his origami :)

  • Comment number 27.

    26, Yeah, and maybe Hal with a big sharp knife might not be such a good idea!

  • Comment number 28.

    as if he'd need a knife to cause carnage ^^

  • Comment number 29.

    But he could some really good detail work. And tidy up nicely afterwards.

  • Comment number 30.

    @BigDoggy - think a dog is always good for Children growing up, Think a Bull terrier would suit Tom,(Make him a bit of a Bill Sykes like) but he'd have trouble training it " Bad Dog!! Sorry Hal, hes eaten your dominoes again". Maybe a cuddly retriever or bloodhound fro tracking OOs etc

    aok666 - love your take on Toms dog (previous blog)

  • Comment number 31.

    Didnt Mcnair whittle wood. That block with the face could either be Mcnairs last drawn peice or it would be the start of Tom attempting to whittle Mcnairs face out of wood.

    Those steaks don't look rare or medium just very well done.

  • Comment number 32.

    30. I'm not so sure lycan, i think Tom has his heart set on a Labrador! Maybe even a little scruffy 57 varieties would do. I'm sure he'd be happy regardless.

    He'd need to get a puppy, don't think a grown dog would take to him. Remember the dog that barked at George when he ran through the woods looking for a place to transform? Series 1 ep 1 i think.

  • Comment number 33.

    Of course the even cheaper version of the vamp slaying kit is a tree and a knife.
    If Tom did get a dog; it would be quite handy for fetching great big sticks he can carve into stakes.

    Prehaps the boys could compromise and do some pottery, more manly than origami and tidier than whittling!

    I wonder if we'll ever see Hals full routine? I think a great resistance exercise would be sitting in front of a sheet of bubble wrap. The urge to pop those little bubbles is even stronger than knocking over dominoes!

  • Comment number 34.

    Lol @ alice. Can you imagine them both doing pottery? They could always recreate 'that' scene from Ghost if any Doctors or Social Services decide to call!

  • Comment number 35.

    @BBD that was exactly what I was thinking!

  • Comment number 36.

    I don't think hal will be too happy if he finds that box, especially the vampire fang necklace! It would be a nice hobby for tom, annie and hal to sit around the table having a go at whittling, you know when eve's asleep..

  • Comment number 37.

    @nerdyalice oooh, bubble wrap, yes, most definitly more tempting then dominoes :). But isn't pottery quite messy to? all that clay...bäh
    @BigBadDog *lol* nice, now I can't get that image out of my head XD

  • Comment number 38.

    Lol, Unchained Melody in the background!

  • Comment number 39.

    29. and 33. Fabuloous. Yes indeed. He would tidy up in a staccato like manner. Much like. When he is trying . To make a point. When talking.

    With bubble wrap it's quite possible he would chew his arms off to stop popping. Noise. Then tidy up afterwards.With his feet. However ... could be useful and could make money in the rehab vampire world... tension sheet..(paint it red..Dwarf..)
    Am liking the box.
    Like Buffy's weapons chest, as it t'were.
    Actually does holy water do anything in BH universe.. perhaps it's like the cross or George's Star of David its if the bearer believes in it?
    Have you seen the state of the carpet?? Bits of radiator paint everywhere.. perhaps that should be Hals next job in the house... bleed the radiator.
    HA HA. Huh. No isnt funny I agree.
    I think Hal will take offense at this box. He will actually say.." I am offended. By the Box." Bless him. In a non vampire offensive way x

  • Comment number 40.

    10.30 clean the oven.

    10.40 off to bed xx

  • Comment number 41.

    Night !

  • Comment number 42.

    Night Nikki, hope you enjoyed your first day blogging!

    39, Hi doesitsay. Loved when Hal says, 'Annie is hysterical and i'm not enjoying it'!

  • Comment number 43.

    Why do radiators need bleeding? I've never understood.
    (10:40 : finished making pancakes for dinner
    will be going to bed at about midnight, possibly, but not falling asleep until 1am when I've read some more of my new book)

  • Comment number 44.

    Just watched the latest location video for The Hobbit I must say Aidan Turner still looks dreamy.

  • Comment number 45.

    Has anybody worked out what Kia-Ora might do to Hal? Does it have that orange colouring which makes some children hyperactive? Maybe that sends vamps hyper too.

  • Comment number 46.

    Hello back BBD!
    AOK.. err not a plumber but its sommat to do with air or some jiggerpokery like that. Enjoy pancakes - sweet or savoury? Book.. fantasy or biography? Bloggers need to know!
    Howling Blue - yes on the AT Hobbit experience. He looks good with an umbrella. Well anything actually. Feeling right at home with the rain.
    Night - have to away to bed to see season 2 and the Marigold Man again.
    Just had blueberries and a glass of wine. red. MwaaaarrrrARRGH. Cab Sauv actually not blurrd.

  • Comment number 47.

    I'd love to know the effect Kia-Ora has on Hal. It must be the hyperactivity thing! I know it used to have that artificial colouring in it. Not sure about now.

  • Comment number 48.

    45,47- maybe it's all that sugar in it...he'd get a sugar-high ^^

  • Comment number 49.

    Ah before I go.. 45 - AOK - probably makes Hal do that dance like the advert in the 80s? Or makes his fangs fall out with all the sugar.
    Maybe thats whats in the holy water bottles!

  • Comment number 50.

    Lol, goodnight doesitsay. I'll have some sweet pancakes if you don't mind.

    a0k, I'm curious as to what you're reading too!

    I've just watched 'Game of Thrones' over the last two nights. I want to get the books now.

  • Comment number 51.

    Half savoury pancakes (chilli), half sweet (grapes). Book is Cricket Sings: A Novel of Pre-Columbian Cahokia, by Kathleen King - don't get much time to read (too many lecture notes) so am progressing very slowly despite being a fast reader.
    The Kia-Ora incident was probably a long time ago, so maybe it was back in the days of that colouring (tartrazine? Is that still in orange Smarties?) Would hyper Hal clean maniacally or obsess more than usual? Or would he just turn into Bad Hal for a few hours, so that Pearl had to tie him up with Leo's straps?

  • Comment number 52.

    I was wondering that too about holy water, don't recall it being mentioned before.
    Maybe I'll have to get a focus group together and market bubble wrap therapy for vamps. Not sure the bubble wrap would make it there though, I have no will power.
    It made Lister a billionaire didn't it? (thank goodness for Dave, I missed Red Dwarf the first time around.)

    Kia-Ora too orangey for crows, too orangey for vampires. In my head crows=vampires but thats probably cause I read too much. Haven't a clue what it would do to him, though I'd love to see!

    *heads off to stokers with a briefcase full of bubble wrap*

  • Comment number 53.

    tied up Hal, nice picture that ^^

    nighty-night, I'll crawl in my coffin

  • Comment number 54.

    Goodnight 0positiv, be careful alice.

    I'll hang around and man the blog door!

  • Comment number 55.

    I don't curl up in my nest until later, but I'm nipping off for a shower - back in 30-45 minutes (and I'm not even washing my hair tonight).

  • Comment number 56.

    Just realised.... At the beginning of series 4 New York fell to the Vampires.... Is that where Being Human US is set?

  • Comment number 57.

    Evening, just popping in briefly!

    Love Tom's box, maybe he could get Eve to start making her own (not that Hal or Annie would approve) with the chest he got her last ep. Already turning her into a mini Tom, she'll need those skills later on!

    Don't really think Hal should be allowed to BLEED the radiator, even the name might be too much temptation for him!

  • Comment number 58.

    Good Evening Robert, how is your good self tonight?

    Not sure about BH US, never watched it i'm afraid!

  • Comment number 59.

    @Robert, no it's in Boston I think (don't watch it though)

  • Comment number 60.

    Hi RentAGhost, i thought i'd been abandoned.

    I like the idea of Tom making a Vampire Slaying Kit for Eve. It'd be interesting to see if there's a big green box lying around somewhere in the FW's headquarters!

  • Comment number 61.

    Hi, I wonder if there is supposed to be a connection between the 2 series and that's why they mentioned it.... Maybe the cast in the US will move to NY... Just like we moved from Bristol to Barry!

  • Comment number 62.


    Do the characters have different names though Robert? Although i know their ghost has the same clothes as Annie. I don't imagine that meeting would go down too well!

  • Comment number 63.

    What would be the perfect present for Eve on her 1st Birthday??

    Also.... I think if George was still around that he'd remember Tom's 21st! He was much more in touch with humanity... The 3 left don't have any real connection. Tom didn't really grow up as part of humanity. Hal is a vampire.... and Annie is caught up with her own life, she's not grounded enough with the rest of humanity to remember the simple things like birthdays....

    I wanna buy Tom a few beers... Bring him to the footy! And get him some stake and chips afterwards!

  • Comment number 64.

    Hi BBD, nope not abandoned just dealing with the curse of the green box! I think in the US series the characters have different names - the only one I know is the vampire is called Aiden as a tribute to the fab AT.

    @Robert I don't know if they had no connection - they're all coping with recent bereavement, they all need people - Tom wants a family, Annie needs people to fill her life and Hal needs people to keep him stable... is that enough?
    Eve's 1st birthday gift... hmmm... inflatable ring so she can go in Tom's swimming pool? (under supervision of course!)

  • Comment number 65.

    @Robert, great idea for Tom, do you think he'd support Wolves? He needs some mates his own age and a break from the intensity of Annie with Eve and Hal with his 'condition'!

    What about a crucifix for Eve, obviously for when she's old enough to wear it.

    @RentAGhost, the curse of the green box is a nightmare! Gotta agree with you on Hal and Annie though. They're not in their best frame of mind for Tom and i doubt they even knew it was his birthday. George would've remembered though!

  • Comment number 66.

    I'm off to watch the Natural World on bbc4, it's called The Wolf Pack. I think Tom woud like it!

  • Comment number 67.

    I am *chika chika* back!

  • Comment number 68.

    Lol @ a0k. Good shower?

    I've got one eye on the blog, the other on bbc4.

  • Comment number 69.

    Lol @ Alice and BBD, I will never be able to get that image out of my head!

    Typical, away with work for the night, finally get home after a 3 hour drive, and by the time I catch up with all the blog posts everyone's gone! All very interesting reading though, you clever people :o)

    I've been thinking about Hal on Kia-Ora, and I'm imagining him a bit hyper-active, singing (for a change) very rude rugby songs and doing Bob Fosse inspired dance routines. Or 'YMCA',
    something like that ;)

  • Comment number 70.

    Hey oleta, i'm still here. Keeping an eye on the blog door and keeping out any undesirables!

    I think a hyper Hal would lose all focus and scatter his dominoes everywhere, possibly giving into the urge for blood!

  • Comment number 71.

    @BigBadDog: nice hot shower despite low water pressure (again) - though I had to kill a silverfish. With a shoe. (Seriously. Life imitates art.)

  • Comment number 72.

    Ever heard of hyperfocus? Maybe that's what happens to Hal on Kia-Ora. He does the dominoes at top speed, breaks something while exercising and gets extra-angry if his Rota is interrupted...

  • Comment number 73.

    @ a0k, Never heard of hyperfocus but sounds like a possibility if Hal drinks the dreaded Kia-Ora! Surely it wasn't mentioned in the script as just a throwaway remark. They'll have to explore it. Annie should've asked more about it!

    Lol @ 'With a shoe'!

  • Comment number 74.

    Hey BBD and aok, other peeps....I've been seriously missing other BH obsessed peeps, everyone at work is into TOWIE and Enders, yawn.

    70/72 Maybe that's when Hal went for the small dogs? I am now giggling at the thought of Hal looking guilty blood and dog fluff caked around all over his face and possibly pulling a dog collar out of his mouth...

  • Comment number 75.

    What if when Hal drinks Kia-Ora he actually knocks down the dominoes once he builds them? *shocked face*

  • Comment number 76.

    Hyperfocus is why people with ADHD will concentrate really hard on things they're interested in, almost to the point of obsession (but short-lived). They have to concentrate hard to stay focused anyway, and they sort of overdo it.

    I think TVTropes is right to list the Kia-Ora line under "The Noodle Incident" - some incident in the past which is never actually detailed (same as George's "I'm not going paintballing, not again. Not after last time.")

    Hal did say in his letter that he didn't like small animals at all (we know he's scared of spiders) - maybe small dogs give him flashbacks to the miniature circus (with its dogs in hats drinking tea)?
    It was a high-rise trainer. Flowery on black background. :-)

  • Comment number 77.

    Haha, you guys just blow my mind sometimes - how'd a picture of Tom's things lead to a conversation about Hal and Kia-Ora? Oh well, nevermind! - It's a worthwhile thing to think about, I suppose :D BigBadDog I agree with you! - Surely they wouldn't have mentioned something that was soo evidently important to Annie if it wasn't meant to pop-up later? Lets hope soo! I suspect everyone's curious to find out..

  • Comment number 78.

    Oh and to further the conversation about the Kia-Ora.. (can I post two comments in a row?) I can just see Hal having a serious giggle-fit or something similarly unexpected when he drinks that stuff. Remember he may be a Vampire but as a person from the 1500s he wouldn't be great with all the additive-foody-stuffs we have now! Ha. Sorry, I will try to post more serious comments in the future :p

  • Comment number 79.

    I'm enjoying this series so much I felt like I was being unfaithful to our original trio, so I'm rewatching season 2, have reached the part where George and Mitchell are upset the Real Hustle has been moved and here's Mitchell in marigolds....

  • Comment number 80.

    Hi StrangeBean, I hope the Kia-Ora thing is mentioned again but a0k may well be right about it being similar to George's aversion to paintballing.

    This blog does take some severe twists and turns at times but thats half the fun!

  • Comment number 81.

    Strangebean, I don't think seriousness is a pre-requisite for posting or half these blogposts wouldn't be here!

    A giggle fit would be funny, or spouting rude limericks, or doing impressions...something unexpected and unHal but not quite Lord Harry.

  • Comment number 82.

    Funnily enough oleta, i've started watching series 1 all over again, i almost forgot how funny it could be at times. George has had his first 'date' with Nina and is worried she might prefer the wolf to him!

    This series is really different but the script writing and acting are so good this show could go on for years. I thought it'd be dead in the water without 2 thirds of the original cast.

  • Comment number 83.

    Am going off to my den now, might have time to drop in on the blog tomorrow morning before lectures (notes and so on will mean that I won't be very active here tomorrow).

  • Comment number 84.

    Yeah, it was a lot funnier - in series 1, particularly! But I have to agree that the way it's been moved on means it could run on a lot longer - Mitchell, George Annie and Nina couldn't have lasted for much longer than it did, no matter how much we would have loved it to! I love what they've done with it, and I love the new cast. Can't complain really, it's still a brilliant show and one of the highlights of my week, just as it always was! :)

  • Comment number 85.

    82 @BBD
    I love that one! I am really enjoying this season, I think last season felt over-shadowed by knowing AT was leaving , and I think osme of the story lines had to be rushed. I still loved it more than anything else on TV but it isn't my favourite series.

    It was weird that when I heard it was George and Mitchell leaving I was worried, but once I knew Nina was leaving too, I felt much more optimistic. Not because I didn't like Nina as a character, but because I felt that a reboot with just Annie would be fresh, while just adding on another character would be very hard to do well, plus I couldn't see Nina EVER accepting another Vamp into the house believably. Just my opinion.

  • Comment number 86.

    Watching these eps (season 2), makes me wish I could just take occasional trips into the alternate universe where BH season 4 still had our original cast. I'd still be back here in time to watch our Annie, Tom and Hal series though. ;o)

  • Comment number 87.

    I think it's time I admit this - when The Hobbit gets released, I am so, SO tempted to shout out "Mitchell Lives!!" When his character appears on the screen. I know a lot of people would disagree with that but.. So.. Tempting..!

  • Comment number 88.

    Goodnight a0k, enjoy your lectures.

    84,85. I think LT was up against it when AT left then RT and SK were right behind him. It doesn't seem like he had much notice to deal with the changes either. But he's pulled it right out the fire.

    Tom's character needed more exploring and Hal has been a revelation!

    The whole future thing i wasn't sure about to begin with but i have faith that it'll all come together.

    As for the comedy, Hal and Tom together are brilliant and we need more of the same!

  • Comment number 89.

    Hahaha, StrangeBean, now that you've said it you've gotta go through with it! I'd love to see some of the LOTR fanboys sitting with jaws open and popcorn dribbling down their fronts.

    I imagine there'll be BH up and down the country dying to do the same!

  • Comment number 90.

    *BH fans* That last sentence should've said! Doh!

  • Comment number 91.

    Hahaha I know! I'm probably not brave enough in reality to do it but it just so has to be done! It's good to think I won't be the only one, that's for sure!! Perhaps this means I'll have to go see it more than once - give the LOTR fangirl in me what she's been waiting for the first time and then release my BH side on the second viewing!

  • Comment number 92.

    Strangebean: You are right it is tempting. I think my daughter and I won't be able to resist whimpering 'mitchell' semi-quietly when we go to see it. Did you see the latest video from the Hobbit set, I am a nerd and have been following the filming. It's here (if I do this right) www.facebook.com/PeterJacksonNZ.

    BBD. You're right about the challenge for poor LT with that mass exodus. But it's ended up really inspiring him. I didn't really 'get' Tom last series because he felt like a distraction from everything else that was going on, but I love him now his innocence and directness is the perfect foil for Hal's control and worldweariness. They really workwell off each other.

  • Comment number 93.

    Here's that link again. It didn't work the first time oleta.


  • Comment number 94.

    Nope, didn't work for me either. It works if you open a new tab and put the link in the address bar.

    Btw I've nothing against LOTR but i think it'd be hilarious to hear someone shout 'Mitchell Lives' during the Hobbit!

  • Comment number 95.

    Thanks BBD I'm rubbish at this kind of thing.

    I'll defnitely laugh if someone says 'Mitchell lives' when I go to see the Hobbit and of course I shall now wonder if it's strangebean!

  • Comment number 96.

    No, it wasn't anything you did wrong oleta. The link just didn't work.

    Just watched the video on the link you posted, looks like a fun movie set to be on.

  • Comment number 97.

    96: I know it looks great. My sister lives in Wellington, and I wish I could afford to go out there and visit this year:o(
    She buys me loads of gifts from the WETA cave, but it would be great to visit myself.

  • Comment number 98.

    It's a beautiful looking country, i recognised a lot of Scottish names in the place names. Must be from settlers or Scottish jailbirds exiled to NZ!

  • Comment number 99.

    Lol, EP4 on BB3 now, as if I hadn't watched it enough times already!

  • Comment number 100.

    Thanks for the heads up. I've watched it four times already but one more time can't hurt!


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