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Sam Naz Sam Naz | 17:46 UK time, Wednesday, 9 February 2011

He's one of the country's most popular DJs, having been a fixture at Radio 1 for over a decade now. But this is a first for Scott Mills. In BBC Three's new documentary The World's Worst Place To Be Gay? Scott went to Uganda in east Africa to see what it's like for gay people to live in a country where homosexuality is illegal. He also speaks openly about being gay himself. I went down to Radio 1 HQ in London to catch up with him.

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Since Scott returned, Uganda has been in the news quite a bit. There have been two big stories which have put the country's views on homosexuality firmly in the spotlight. Last month, the gay rights campaigner David Kato was murdered. Police there insist there's no evidence that he was killed because of his sexuality, but David's colleagues at the gay rights group Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) disagree - they say he'd been receiving death threats after being outed by a newspaper.

Just a few days after David's death, a Ugandan woman who was about to be deported from the UK, managed to win a last minute reprieve. Brenda Namiggade says she's a lesbian and believes that her life would be in danger if she went back to Uganda. She was told that she could stay here temporarily while the courts looked at her case again.

But it's not just Uganda with tough laws on homosexuality. Human Rights Watch, a charity which aims to protect the human rights of people all over the world, says being gay is illegal in around 70 countries including Barbados, Morocco, Afghanistan and the 2022 World Cup hosts - Qatar. In fact, being gay is seen as such a serious crime in some countries, like Iran and Saudi Arabia, that it carries the death penalty.

There's currently no death penalty for gay people in Uganda. The maximum sentence is 14 years in prison, but that could all change if the Anti-Homosexuality Bill is passed. It's being proposed by the Ugandan MP David Bahati who argues that it will protect the traditional family. The Bill would increase the penalty for gay acts to life in prison and would introduce the death penalty for 'serious offenders'. The proposal has been widely condemned and critics include US President Obama. Speaking last year, he said:

"Surely we can agree that it is unconscionable to target gays and lesbians for who they are, whether it is here in the United States or... more extremely, in odious laws that are being proposed more recently in Uganda."

You can watch Scott Mills present The World's Worst Place To Be Gay? at 9pm on Monday on BBC Three.

Journalist Sam Naz presents the 60seconds news bulletins on BBC Three.

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  • Comment number 1.

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  • Comment number 2.

    Scott - you are a good man and what you have been doing in Uganda is very important. I visited Uganda a few years ago and it is a great country but who can agree with the average sentiments on homosexuality??? Good luck in your ventures xxx

  • Comment number 3.

    So glad Scott you've have bought this to the attention of people here in the UK! The human rights of gay people across the Middle East and Africa certainly needs highlighting...as your report highlighted - the death penalty is sort in a lot of instances! Interesting to note however, that the UK tax payer sends millions of pounds in aid each year to these countries...thinking back to the recent speech made by Cameron about stopping funds being given to charities/organisations that either preach hate or do not share similar values to mainstream UK society back here - maybe it is time we considered the same with our overseas development expenditure! With my job, I frequently visit a whole host of African nations and the peoples are so warm, friendly and welcoming; if only their churches and governments stopped preaching hate I'm sure they would open their arms out and create more inclusive societies...South Africa is a great example - the host of the biggest Pride events on the continent!

  • Comment number 4.

    I think it's about time ALL Western travellers, gay AND straight need to start boycotting travel to these homophobic countries across Africa - and I think aid should be stopped as well. Why are they so anti it? Is it because THEY ARE GAY and cannot accept themselves?! It is short sighted, ignorant and foolish to be so stupid about sexuality... we need to stop supporting these countries through the tourist industry and make a point of going elsewhere. Stop travel and tourism in Africa BY ALL PEOPLE

  • Comment number 5.

    Anyone who wants a gay person harmed is wrong regardless of any beliefs. There are many persecuted groups all around the world, we simply cannot stop tourism/aid just because a country does not treat gays right alone. There are other issues to consider and maybe we can change how people think about harming others through our dealing. This is better than isolation as it will not change matters of persecution anywhere.

  • Comment number 6.

    I can't help seeing an ironic parallel between the oppression the Ugandan people are creating for homosexuals and the oppression their ancestors faced during the time of slavery. In the not so distant past many black africans were treated in an appalling fashion because they were black. There was no justifiable reason for the cruelty they suffered other than in the eyes of the oppressors.

    Gay people in Uganda aren't being sold as slaves but aside from that there is little difference in the fear and oppression they feel and the lack of justifications for it. If this bill gets passed, Ugandan society will have taken a big step back towards the kind of mindlessness and senselessness seen in the time of slavery and ironically, it'll be a step taken by the very people who's ancestors fought to break free of that oppression.

  • Comment number 7.

    I knew the situation was bad... The gay people from Uganda are a real inspiration!!

  • Comment number 8.

    This was an amazing program. I am very grateful to you Scott. I am so sad and angry at the same time. If you see the International Criminal Court page you see that certain people in Uganda are already in the midst of many allegations into crimes against humanity and war crimes. I would suggest that some of this footage be shown to those people who are currently fueling this hatred and condemning this violence against homosexuals in Uganda to the International Criminal Court and they be brought to justice. It is ridiculous!

  • Comment number 9.

    What is clear is that most Ugandans and their religions are primitive.

  • Comment number 10.

    hi there guys just watched the programme and i found it very disturbing that there are countries out there doing this to gay men and women i myself are gay and i want to get more involved in this thing its is so wrong [Personal details removed by Moderator]

  • Comment number 11.

    Well done, Scott. This was a terribly depressing film about homophobia that you needed to share with the world. What worries me is the ignorance of so called leaders such as 'pastors' and elected representitives who peddle this bigotry and corrupt the minf=ds of the young. The interview with the MP was priceless!!!

    I'm far too old for Radio 1 but I'll look out your show.

    Congratulations for this brave and informative piece.

  • Comment number 12.

    Scott Mills did an excellent piece of informative journalism,on the issue of homosexuality in Uganda. As a gay man myself I have took for granted the luxury of living in the U.K where society has mostly come to terms with the gay society. I must also add that never before have I felt so strongly about gay rights, not only within the U.K. but also worldwide. After watching "The world's worst place to be gay" I am actually genuienly inspired to commit more to the promotion of gay rights. Scott Mills should be very proud of his work, and also B.B.C. three for producing yet again, another brilliant documentary.
    The world could use more people like Scott Mills.

  • Comment number 13.

    been in Cameroon in the early 80ties and I felt at home there and then but the way things are right now in Africa I probably would be much more careful than I was those days. It is disgusting under which circumstances the gays have to live in Uganda.Before the "missonaries" came to Africa, gay relationships were something you did not talk about, you just did it.
    Everyone interested in the history of homosexuality in Afrika should read the book " Boy-Wives and Female Husbands: Studies in African Homosexualities von Will Roscoe und Stephen O. Murray von St. Martin's Press " It helps a lot to understand the mentality. two movies also are recommendable woupie cheri and Dakan , just google for them. I love Africa but have problems with the fanatics, who rule right now...

  • Comment number 14.

    It seems to me that homophobia is Africa's anti-semitism and it's shocking, though perhaps not surprising, that religious leaders are at the forefront of it. And our own Christian leaders, the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury for example, for once don't seem to have much to say.

  • Comment number 15.

    I hope Mr D Cameron has seen this program & remember's it when he is handing over millions of pound's of our money in foreign aid.

  • Comment number 16.

    I watched your program with great concern. I can't believe such a nation can breed 'hate', but on further investigation there are other places in the world that are also dangerous to be gay.

    However, Uganda's plan to pass a bill/law to make this illegal with penalties which may carry death, really makes it more disturbing. I have already started my campaign to write to the Uganda tourist boards and government voicing my disgust.

    Uganda may be a beautiful country (though I have never been), but from what I see, the people are not so.

  • Comment number 17.

    Well done Scott bring this issue to light, has a gay woman myself i find it sad and upseting that the world seem to keep turning a blind eye to this behaviour. But in times of crisis when countrys like us are sending money to help places like this do you think they would turn it away knowing that some of it came from gay people. The countrys of the world needs to start taking a close look at the people and the place we trade with. This cannot and should not be aloud to go on its medival and backwards in all ways. Yet again Scott good work xx

  • Comment number 18.


    Scott Mills has been very brave in exposing this terribly sad situation in Uganda, a country that I love dearly. Even though it is true that the Church, supposed to promote "Loving one's neighbour!", can shoulder a lot of the responsibility for the homophobia in Uganda, Scott should have talked to a very loving Ugandan Bishop, Christopher Ssenyonjo, who has openly, at high risks, protected and loved gay people in Uganda (not gay himself. I met him and his wife personally a couple of years ago) for a number of years. He suffered great abuse as result (got himself excommunicated) but never gave up campaigning for the rights of gay people. If Scott ever feels he wants to do a follow up, he must meet this man with a golden heart.

    Also, Desmond Tutu, the most well-known Archbishop in the world, has for many years openly defended gays and their rights. Please read the foreword he wrote in the book called "Sex, Love and Homophobia: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Lives." His universal love for all shines through, irrespective of sexual orientation. Anti-gay in Africa is not an African thing, but a ‘learned' thing, as Scott found out when he interviewed the teenager students. Ironically, in this book is mentioned a tribe in Uganda where young men are openly gay and accepted as such in the community. So anyone in Uganda saying that gay is an 'imported behaviour' are ignorant of their own current or recent 'history'.

    There is much more that could be said about this issue. To make an even greater and positive impact on the anti-gay Africans, some of their more outspoken religious protectors need to be given a voice too, as the bulk of the harm has been generated from religious quarters, very sadly!

    So Scott, if ever you do a follow up, you will find quite a few African ‘men of the cloth’ who follow a path of unconditional love. They simply do not talk openly about accepting gays as normal human beings for fear of reprisal but their hearts ache not to be able to do so.


  • Comment number 19.

    A truly wonderful program, I was amazed at the bravery of people like Frank Mugishais and others in the face of such foul bigotry it was unberable at times to watch. People can join the facebook group Gay Uganda to show support and sign the petition to stop the deportation of a Gay HIV Ugandan. Great TV thank you

  • Comment number 20.

    Scott has been tremendously brave to embark on a journey he knew could threaten his very life. What seems obvious is the overpowering ignorance towards gay people, ie the strong belief that being gay is a lifestyle choice, within a society governed by completely misguided religious leaders and a culture of fear and intimidation.
    The courage and incredible hope displayed by the gay men and women in Uganda are truly humbling. Will this commendable documentary help to bring to our politicians' attention the need to seriously question human rights in Uganda, and apply some diplomatic pressure?

  • Comment number 21.

    I am shocked and very saddened by what I've just seen about how gays are treated in Uganda and any Ugandan who is truly a god fearing person would never incite such hatred on a fellow human being.

    I am from Tanzania a neighbouring country to Uganda and I can tell you that gays are very much accepted in our society, so I strongly reject this idea that this hatred that is wide spread in Uganda is against our African culture, Africa is a continent with very many countries with my different values and beliefs a fact that seems to be forgotten sometimes.

    I have experienced racism and I know how painful being discriminated against feels and if these people would just put themselves in the gay guy's shoes for just one day and experience what these poor souls go through I am sure they'd take a step back and think of their actions and what hurt it causes others. What I would say to the haters is just think of where we blacks have come from not so long ago e.g South Africa and how would you feel if somebody suggested that you should be killed because you are black?? Surely there are better things to worry about than what a person chooses to do with their body that god gave them and not you!! the Ugandan people need some serious educating, its just appalling that a group of people can be so ignorant at this day and age (very sad)

    I don't usually write blogs infact this is my first and I've had to register especially just so I can comment on this topic that how pationatily I feel about this and I am not even gay (not that it matters).
    We need more love in this world, lets learn to show compasion, love and understanding, we are all different and so its enevitable to that we will have different tastes, colour, opinions etc but before we are black or gay or whatever WE ARE HUMAN FIRST so treat others how you would like to be treated.


  • Comment number 22.

    I heard this on the radio today! I actually went on line to find the report! wooooo i must say - what a great thing to do! You are in a position where so many people just let behaviuor and opinions and ways of life go by with out challenging them! I know i stand by many people today when i say WELL DONE! that is an understatement! I am from Northern Ireland and there are a lot of people who are mislead in the world and when u see them have to stand infront of someone who questions them- that is amazing! It takes a strong person! ' I would have refused this interview!' HA good work xx

  • Comment number 23.

    After looking at the small video blog (which featured the witch doctor)I'm suprised at the complete stupidity these people show. A lot of people just use religion as an excuse. It's of no suprise how some seem to prey on a person's own insecurities to use against them to mask their own but find it annoying that they use the 'holy book' to do so. After reading the small blog (above) I'm suprised that many people and nations where certain sexual orientations are still ruled as against the law are still living in the dark ages and are fearful of homosexuality, this is the 21st Century we should have got over this sort of arrogance years ago. What this proves is that there's still vaired forms of prejudice and that social barriers need to be broken in order to create some form of understanding. I'm Bisexual and I couldn't care less. Good luck Scott, what your doing for Uganda is definatey a noble cause and needs to highlight one of the many issues affecting that country.

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  • Comment number 25.

    I have just watched the Fantastic documentary with the equally Fantastic Scott Mills in Uganda. I am still shaking! what on earth is going on in this world? i have been happily living with the same man for 21 years, married one year!
    I am still as much in love with him since the day i met him!
    I knew i was gay when i was 9 years old, of course never acted on it till i was 16!
    I have been to Africa many times on holiday, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco and Kenya> I have donated as much as i could to all causes in Africa, believing the people there have been mistreated and unfairly kept in low living conditions! I am shaken to disbelief in the attitude towards gays seen there. I have lived in the countryside, away from the City for 7 years now as have no need for the gay scene,but god forbid if there was no support when i needed it. Why do we continue to support countries where it is clear that the governments are as corupt as the people on the streets. I for one will never visit Africa again, i was left feeling so upset that i have spent my haed earned money in such a place. As for the poor gay people having to put up with this kind of attitude in this day and age, what hope do we have as a world to ever have pease! one step forward and two steps back is all we as a human race ever do! I cannot praise Scott Mills enough for bringing this awful situation to the attention of the western world.

  • Comment number 26.

    This is an article I wrote for the Promota Africa magazine only a few months ago: (if you can publish, please feel free)

    One of the commandments in the Bible urges us ‘not to kill’. For most of us, this makes perfect sense …in the majority of cases. Human beings, however, tend to grade each other’s worthiness and deservedness to live or to die, irrespective of divine guidance. Respecting this commandment has been a true challenge for humanity throughout history.

    Un-deservedness to live has been recently proclaimed on a certain portion of the Ugandan population, namely all members of the sexual minorities, comprising gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders (GLBT). For these people, the commandment ‘you shall not kill’ has been translated into ‘you shall be killed’. In the eyes of many government and church officials in Uganda, GLBTs have lost their human-ness and worthiness, and do indeed deserve to die. This infection of the mind and blindness of the heart has sadly spread to the majority of the population, from those few individuals at the top.



    Contrary to many people’s naïve beliefs, sexual orientations of any kind are not a disease or a state that can be wilfully adopted at the whim of a mood. It is an orientation that is inborn and is, like in every human being, called to be expressed. It is only our negative judgements of these differing sexual orientations that have rendered them unacceptable and condemnable. And some members of the Ugandan government, who may consider themselves wise in matters of human spirituality and psychology, have taken it onto themselves to propose a bill to persecute anyone who does not conform to the normal sexual orientations. In the process, they are completely overlooking the fact that homosexuality has been around ever since human beings inhabited the planet, that enough studies have been carried out to show that homosexuality is not a disease or a choice and that any passages in the Scriptures have been placed there by people who were at the time homophobic themselves. Do we truly mean to declare that God is so small that He would be concerned with this tiny aspect of our being, condemn it and thereby makes His unconditional love…conditional??

    The particulars of the proposed bill are not even interesting as they rest, at the very onset, on a false foundation of blind, fearful and misguided judgements. Only erroneous decisions can derive from erroneous thinking.

    Throughout time, human beings have found suitable scapegoats which they could blame for their personal, national and global ills. Homosexuals and other sexual minorities have today become the newest scapegoat of Uganda. Is it not just so much easier to point the finger at someone out there, and dump on them what we truly do not want to be responsible for? The scapegoat is now responsible for my demise, my bad crops, my poverty, my ignorance, my lack of honesty, my failing morals, my country’s economic downfall, my erroneous thoughts. I, along with another twenty million people in Uganda, am not responsible for my homophobic stance. If we abdicate from our responsibility to choose homophobia, have we not wilfully become little more than puppets, whose strings are pulled by outside forces, totally out of our control? Someone who is not responsible is also not guilty, right?

    The people who are decrying the sexual orientation of GBLTs are suffering from the worst type of blindness. They fail to recognise the humanity that they share with these people. Our sexual orientations consist only of a tiny percentage of our total being. It is a mere detail in the grand scheme of human life and the divine plan. People who condemn homosexuals see only that tiny aspect of their brothers and sisters and blow it totally out of proportion. Their biggest challenge is to open their eyes and admit that they are in no way different, and as deserving of life and respect.

    The majority of people in Uganda follow a religious belief. I’ll address my message particularly to all fervent Christians who regularly come across the message ‘Love one another’ in the Scriptures which they so love and respect. Three little words loaded with the hardest challenge ever. Many Christians to this very day are unable to put it into practice. In the Scriptures, it does not say ‘under specific circumstances’ or ‘only certain types’ or ‘some but not others’. ‘One another’ includes everyone, period!

    Religious leaders in Uganda have been themselves unable to rise to the challenge set out over two thousand years ago. They do not understand the meaning of the word unconditional, and are now, through their very conspicuous lack of defence or support towards homosexuals, sending out the very clear message that these people deserve condemnation and death. Love does not rule in the churches pews, nor in the hearts of government officials, who should truly concentrate on addressing more urgent economic problems rather than on the sexual activities of a minute portion of the population!

    No one is undeserving of love. No one is deserving of the judgement of another, because in truth, none of us is able to judge another human being justly or accurately. But we can never fail in extending our love and acceptance unreservedly to all our brothers and sisters regardless of their sexual orientations.

    Homosexuals are a blessing in disguise to all people who have a prejudice against them. They help us see within ourselves the areas in our spirit which we still need to mend and heal, so that we learn to express only love.

    The new bill against homosexuals may well be passed and become law in Uganda. It will in fact be a law that will help many people reveal what their hearts truly hold, such as prejudice, hate, erroneous judgement, spiritual blindness and a deep rooted fear of love.

    Is it not in truth easier to love than to hate? As long as we will not be able to express love first and foremost, we will be given many nudges along the way to help us make better choices. And homosexuals are exactly the type of help that homophobic people need in their lives. The moment we drop the hate, homosexuality will not even be a subject of conversation anymore, let alone engender senseless, hateful and cruel laws that flaunt the most basic human rights.

    Love is patient and will prevail in the end. The question is, which license will you choose to accept today? The license to kill, or the license to love?

  • Comment number 27.

    I run an NGO in Uganda working to aleviate poverty through education. As a country it has been an inspiration to me and many others. The homophobia is a tragic shame and I absolute don not condone it at all. While raising awareness for an important issue, that documentary sweepingly tarnished what is a beautiful country with generally very well meaning humble people. The misrepresentation of Uganda was a real shame. Uganda needs education and clear international pressure against what is an atrocious breach of human rights however, the way to do it is not by fearmongering. Visiting a witch doctor is unrepresentative of Uganda as a whole.

    While admirable in intention and success in his career, Scott Mills did not clearly present any arguments and behaved in a boyish manner while effectively acting as the ambassador for a very important issue.

    Aside from this issue Uganda remains a wonderful country that has risen from the ashes over the last thirty years. I encourage you to look beyond the warped insights offered by that documentary.

    Simon

  • Comment number 28.

    I thought Scott was very brave! I too am a gay man and have never had a problem with my sexuality. I feel really sad that some people living on this planet cannot live in harmony together! I truly believe everyone has the right to their own opinion as long as it doesn't step on anothers freedom! No one has the right to oppress another human being! We all share this planet! Well done Scott for showing this. Bravo!

  • Comment number 29.

    Eboues on my shirt - I don't believe Scott misrepresented anything, I have been doing my little bit by writing to my MP, African Minister, EU and EMP to ask for support in convincing Uganda to not go forward with a bill to execute Gay citizens. How starker a situation for Gay people can you get, threat of death penalty, murder and a population so indoctrinated they almost as a whole hate gay people. We confront bigotry by facing it not hiding it under the carpet. I know many Ugandan's lovely people but they wouldn't be if they hate gay people, just as white person who hates black people or a person hating Muslim's or Jews. Hatred is irrational it comes from fear and often from fanatics. So Uganda may look beautiful but there is something rotten in its heart that needs sorting out. Its odd that country that has suffered so much in last few decades should turn on a minority in such an appalling way. Face the issue don't pretend its not happening or dosn't matter, it does.

  • Comment number 30.

    Right, what the decadent West has to remember is there is a front line in certain countries where our perceived decadence is wholly unacceptable. What we accept, others do not. What we perceive as a right, others do not. Do they have the right to their beliefs or are they somewhat lesser as human beings because they do not believe what we have become to accept?

    Not everyone embraces homosexuality in the West, they are pillioried for it but they are allowed their right of freedom of expression to say they find it abhorrent. Personally, I don't care. Do what you like between consenting adults. No problem. For sure, my own life has not been without "sin".

    However, the arrogance of the West towards democracy, human rights and everything else, so long as it suits us (Hamas anyone?) is a joke. And so incredibly arrogant. We don't have the right to impose our supposedly superior morals on others.

    After over 5 years in Africa I learnt that.

    I thought Scott Mills was incredibly brave to do what he just did to make that film but who are we to tell everyone they are wrong because it is against the rights and privileges we have in our own countries? Good on you, Scott, let's see the next episode from Iran or Saudi. Get after the Muslims that detest homosexuality as much as the Christian pastors in the likes of Uganda who are fighting a religious battle every day.

  • Comment number 31.

    When I saw the title to this show I was concerned. I expected to see a shocking documentary highlighting widely held views that seem abhorantly primitive to an average Brit. The effect of such television is usually to instigate a further negative reaction in the host country against what is perceived as Western preaching. Far from encouraging change it can instead reaffirm the cause of the show as a point of identity held as a difference from the West in the other culture. Instead I was hugely impressed with Scott Mills. He pulled no punches in interviews but touched on the fact this is a more difficult problem than simply haraunging the Ugandan population for their ignorance.

    It is therefore sad to read many of these comments. It may sound patronising to excuse people of such views by citing their different circumstances. But one simply has to remember that even when the UK was far more developed both economically and as a society than Uganda is today, this country still locked up homosexuals. To understand justice as viewing ourselves through the "original position" whereby we have attempted to create a harmonious society via seeing individual's rights as how we would choose to be treated were we to not know in advance what our place in the world is to be, has taken many centuries of development. It is a path we are still on. To put this in context Uganda is still struggling to move beyond a tribe-centric view of the world whereby the limit of justice may end at whether you are Bagandan, from Busoga, Teso or Acholi. In such a place it is unsurprising in the least to see extreme views on minority groups take hold. I understand this makes it no easier for those who suffer for being gay but any change will only come gradually and can only fairly be expected to come gradually. A focus on fighting for the tough sentances to be quietly removed while taking the heat out of the issue is much more likely to have lasting success than loud criticism on Western tv.

    To those who say they wouldn't visit. Name a developing country and I bet I can name a minority group that by developed standards continues to be treated in the most shocking of manners. I wouldn't advocate ignoring such abuses but a level of pragmatism is I believed required if its genuinely change we would like to see.

  • Comment number 32.

    To jontris, are you kidding? The Pope has had a load to say on it and he follows scripture, the Archbishop of Canterbury on the other hand says everything is tickety boo. This homosexual issue is a major factor in Africa. Muslilms and Christians argue over this but only because the Archbishop of the Anglican church says it's fine. Go there. Find out about the internecine strife going on in Nigeria and other countries. It isn't fun, there are no Starbucks and you can forget the EU Bill of Human Rights.

    And the funniest thing I heard in Africa was a loud, pissed, fat, pleb English woman demanding that she knew her Human Rights in Africa. Grow up. This is not the decadent West which appears to be dying in the same way as the Roman Empire. All tied up in corruption, red tape and self agrandisement.

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  • Comment number 35.

    I do not condone homophobia in anyway shape or form and I do not agree with the proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill. However I think it is not in order to call anyone that does not adhere to your rules "primitive". We need to remain aware of the fact that Uganda generally is a socially conservative society and it just does not make sense to expect them to be at the same levels of awareness as the Western world. If I am not mistaken, gays in the "developed world" faced similar challenges in the 60s, and 70s so why not give other societies a chance to evolve as well. One good thing that has come of the proposed bill is the fact that it has generated debate which will ultimately lead to awareness,tolerance and acceptance of gays within the wider Ugandan society whose freedom of expression should not be taken away. I am saddend to hear that there is violence towards the gays in Uganda but why does there seem to be a lack of documented evidence about this? I wonder how many are now seeking to enter or remain in the country for fear of persecution.

  • Comment number 36.

    I really do not find it fair to call Ugandans primitive, have rotten hearts and have an attack on what they believe to be morally right, and a way of protecting their culture and tradition. Many of you that are talking about withdrawing Aid and never visiting are not any different from who and what you are calling primitive and rotten because you too want to protect what you believe is the right thing.

    Scotts potrayal of homosexuals being forced into slums as hiding places is so misguided. a quick peep into the next door neighbours room to find out if they too were homosexuals in hiding would have helped further into the investigation. I do recall seeing a mother and child in the background wich was a very clear indication of poverty and way of living for most Ugandans and Africans in general. Now that Scott is brave enough, it would be good for him to continue on this journey by visiting west and north africa and other Arab nations and then you will see how Uganda is more tolerant on the matter and that gay people cant be living in that much fear if they can take you to bar they hang out and allow you to even show the name. Good luck if Scot can even get a Gay person to interview.

    Sad as this may sound, I think what Scott has succeeded in doing here is create another immigration problem for Britain. Just watch and see and let us know how possible it will be to prove who is gay and not.

  • Comment number 37.

    How sad that what should have been such important documentary should have been fronted by Scott Mills.
    He may be a nice bloke, but he's inarticulate, he hadn't done his research, he can't construct a proper argument, he's got no stamina, he seemed more concerned about the bad loos and roads than about the real problems he was there to investigate.

    This is such an important subject and deserves professional reporting, not an amateur jaunt like this. There are a lot of out gay journalists who could have made this programme, why didn't the BBC use one of them?.

  • Comment number 38.

    Scott,
    Firstly, i just want to say well done for your bravery! This was an excellent programme and watching this makes one realise how well off we are here in the UK. You took great risk in producing this programme and i just wanted to say THANK YOU for your effort in highlighting this issue.

  • Comment number 39.

    Thank you Mr Scott Mills.
    You deserve much credit for this programme.
    A very good piece of work.

  • Comment number 40.

    I thought this was a fascinating and well presented documentary. Living in a very liberal society, I find its very easy to forget the horrific discrimination that others have to face.

    Well done Scott, (and BBC 3) I think you're massively brave to put yourself in what, at times, must have been a terrifying situation and the documentary is something you should be really proud of.

  • Comment number 41.

    An eye opening and moving documentary. I think most people are aware that Africa is for the most part a deprived and suffering continent but I don’t believe that this is any excuse for there treatment towards the gay community. Most people would put this down to lack of education. Their president, Yoweri Museveni is an extremist dictator who has been in power since 1986. He is himself a well-educated person but he strongly apposes homosexuality as well as other controversial issues. Under his dictatorship he would never allow for people to be educated in the acceptance of homosexuals, therefore only those who agree with his views are allowed to teach. Another crucial influence is Religion. Most people in Uganda are taught by their pastors. Museveni is a Christian extremist therefore the churches under his ruling spread his extremist views. They have complete faith in God and in what the church teaches them, in effect they have literally had the fear of God put into them. The country is not that open to outside influence so decades of corruption brainwashing and conditioning has taken its toll. Something needs to be done to stop this but it is in my opinion impossible. Religious believes around the world since the begging of civilisation have been the catalyst for war and an unmatched power for control. It is my belief that religion itself was created as a way of controlling people, gaining power, and explaining the unexplainable. It is a force that no human reasoning can match; it cannot be proved nor dispelled. Money and wealth is what drives the Western world and what gives us our advantages over the Third World. Today in Britain our wealth and economic standing has given us a democratic society and a fairer broader education system. Not to say that we have no corruption or injustice but compared with Africa we live a much freer life with a plethora of opportunities.
    I don’t see any way that the Western world could ever have any real means to change how other countries choose to operate. We risk our own security and standing by getting overly involved in the affairs of other nations. We have seen in recent years with the conflicts in the Middle East that racing in “gun ho” only lowers our credibility on a global scale, financially cripples us and is completely futile! I believe that the only people who can help these nations are the people themselves.

    The documentary was fantastic at raising awareness of the barbaric way Uganda treats its people. It made my upset and angry that in the 21C so much of the world is living in such unimaginable circumstances and it really makes me appreciate my quality of life and all the opportunities that I have been afforded.

  • Comment number 42.

    I really admire the courage and bravery of Scott. One concern I have after watching it is how well the identities of the homosexuals interviewed in the programme are protected after the programme came into public domain. After all most of them will stay in Uganda no matter they choose to fight back or lead a quite life.

    An idea for making a follow-up programme for BBC4: Is it possible for Scott to investigate more about how the homophobic belief fit in the local belief system. How are other diadvantaged groups like disabled people treated? How has the belief system evolved over the years? What were/are the most influential factors. Maybe some scholars could shine some light on how important social changes came into effect in Uganda history?

  • Comment number 43.

    To chatboute: I'm not sure what the internecine strife in Nigeria has got to do with it, except that it's another example of people who think they've got God on their side killing one another. You seem to be saying that because life is hard in Africa that makes it all right to go around killing homosexuals. And we should say nothing about it. No.

  • Comment number 44.

    I feel as strongly about the anti-homosexuality bigotry in Uganda as the makers of the programme. However, I feel very uncomfortable about the lack of context portrayed by the progroramme and the tendancy for sensationalism rather than thoughtful comment.

    There are at least 3 issues which I think should have been explored further in order to understand the views of the majority of Ugandans. Firstly, I understand that due to historical instances of powerful men and rulers forcing young men and children into same-sex sex, homosexuality is culturally associated with abuse and not loving relationships. Secondly, the whole issue of attitudes towards sexuality should be contextualised and considered in the light of other related problems such as the culture of sugar daddies and mysogenistic attitudes towards women. Thirdly, I think it is important to recognise the culpability of the churches (Catholic, Anglican and most of all Evangelical) in stiring up unethical attitudes towards diversity.

    Having spent several months in Uganda over the last 3 years I know that if we were to try and weigh up the injustice in that part of the world, then by far the largest share would be accounted for by poverty alone. The fact is that most Ugandan's have lifestyles not too different to those shown in the programme. African's are the victim of a kind of global apartheid. Each and every one of us in the rich world is complicit in the global economic culture which keeps these people in this situation. Ugandan's have a right to be angry about their lot in the world and whilst it may not be acceptable, it is perhaps not suprising if that anger sometimes becomes misdirected.

    I support the programme's goals, but I think the way it presented the issue was not helpful in solving the problem.

  • Comment number 45.

    @Lucy It's a simplification to describe Museveni as an extremist dictator. In some respects he is a pragmatist and under international pressure he will allow the anti-homosexuality bill to quietly go away, although you can be sure he will not want to be associated with its demise.

    Most edatucated liberal Ugandan's I've met agree that it's time for a change of President. Unfortunately there is a very strong culture of deference in many parts of Africa, as there was in the UK decades ago. Among the common people, political leaders are often seen as 'chiefs' rather than 'public servants'. It is expected to vote for the 'chief', unless, perhaps you view him as belonging to a different 'tribal' group. I use the term both literally and metaphorically.

    In many respects Museveni just represents the cultural status quo in terms of attitudes towards nepotism, corruption and bigotry. He is better than many of the previous Presidents, but he is not the visionary leader which Uganda needs now. The trouble is that there is no obvious replacement. Museveni himself has seen to that.

  • Comment number 46.

    A few people on here complaining that the programme somehow makes Uganda look a little backward, and that we have no right imposing our new-fangled ideas on human rights upon them.

    To those people I say fine - enjoy your open sewers and disease. Carry on with the violence, hatred and homophobia. Your attempts to demonize people in the name of the Bible are tuly sickening.

  • Comment number 47.

    @Top Villan, I think you may misunderstand some of the criticism. As an atheist, my concern is to alleviate poverty, desease and bigotry. You are quite right that the Bible....or the Quran, or the ex-colonial powers do not have a monopoly on 'the truth'. That might sound a bit 'post modern', but actually I'm a western scientist. I'm comfortable with defending a core of universal human rights, but in order to win those cultural arguments you need to understand all perspectives.

  • Comment number 48.

    I want to congratulate Scott on keeping his cool and the efforts he went to in trying to be objective through out and letting both parties have their say - I'm not sure many people would of been able to do so.
    I was sooooooo cross and saden at the same time by the homophobic beliefs that the majority of the Ugandan people seem to have - especially from the politicians and children.
    My heart goes out to all the gay Ugandan men and women who have to suffer this terrible prejudice every day from a country they clearly love.
    Even though the UK isn't perfect and still has some narrow minded people in it, I was proud to be British last night and the freedoms we have, gay or straight.
    Everyone deserves to be free to love whoever they want!
    Thank you Scott for being so brave and highlighting this terrible injustice.

  • Comment number 49.

    @GeoTraveller - Absolutely, their fear is not of the gay man in their midst, but of what their chosen text has to say about him. The alleviation of poverty and disease is actually quite straight-forward, in that you don't have to change what a whole culture believes. I don't think their bigotry will ever go away though.

  • Comment number 50.

    @Top Villan Hmm, I think I have a bit more faith in human nature than the ability of humans to manage global economics. By saying you don't think 'their' bigotry will ever go away aren't you displaying a little prejudice between 'us' and 'them'? After all 'our' bigotry is slowly disappearing, so why not 'theirs'? Cultures do change, sometimes faster than you might expect.

    Incidently, I met a gay UN worker in Entebbe who was in Uganda for a short time. I felt quite angry about the anti-homosexuality bigotry at the time, and we ended up discussing it over dinner. Maybe he didn't realise quite how serious the situation was, but I remember feeling quite humbled by his attitude. He was confident that poverty and health were the big issues to be resolved, and believed that attitudes towards homosexuality would change with time.

  • Comment number 51.

    Scott first off you did a fantastic job highlighting the hardship and discrimination gay people face in Uganda and other countries. I think its horrible that this level of hatred is allowed to continue and that people can be jailed for up to 14 years just for being gay.

    Hopefully this documentary will bring awareness to the situation and one day attitudes will change.

  • Comment number 52.

    I thought that the programme was very worthwhile. However, I was disappointed that the programme didn't dig a bit deeper into the role of US evangelicals in financing and instigating the Anti Homosexuality Bill.
    People should remember that most Ugandans are desperately poor and poorly educated and are told what to believe by their religious leaders. These leaders are loving the attention they are getting on this issue.

    I find it incredible that these Pastors are spending so much time on the issue of homosexuality when (according to other BBC reports) 100's of children are being abducted and ritually killed almost under their noses.

  • Comment number 53.

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  • Comment number 54.

    Well done Scott,
    I found myself shaking my head during this film. It is so sad for the brave gay people who are forced to live as animals; hunted and preyed!
    I used to live in Sri Lanka for 6 yrs, and although being gay is not legal, it goes on and as long as it does not cross the line, there are no issues.
    SO SAD!!!

  • Comment number 55.

    While I do not condone the intolerance shown by Ugandans towards gay people, I think that it is necessary to consider Uganda's recent history: Uganda is recovering from a serious AIDS epidemic which caused the deaths of thousands of people. Many Ugandans in common with other Africans believed that this plague came from Europe and may have been associated with homosexual men. As a result they live in fear of a new sexually transmitted disease and most Africans still think that being gay is a 'life-style choice'. This fear is being whipped up by US churches. Education is needed - maybe our own Archbishop Sentamu could help.

  • Comment number 56.

    Tell the MP who wanted to attack Scott Mills and who is the instigator of Ugandas hate bill what you think yourself on his FB page, David Bahati

  • Comment number 57.

    Good to see Ugandan homophobia tackled but a shame that Scott didn't understand the country better.
    Most Ugandans live in simple housing, sewers are usually open, pit latrines are hygeinic and best for their purpose (no water for western style outside of urban centres!) and, although local medicine is practised (and valued) those 'witch doctors' were putting on a great show for the mzungu!
    And Scott failed to ask the hard questions. Why do Ugandans believe homosexuality is learned, when all the scientific research contradicts this? What makes them think there is a cure when this idea has failed in western countries in the past? Why do Churches in Uganda condemn homosexuality when Churches in UK are more supportive?
    Uganda still follows UK in many ways - their parliament is similar (including wig & gown for the Speaker!), legislation is very similar in many areas, they have even been privatised state owned industries such as electricity. But on the issue of homosexuality they have ignored the UK legislation and remain stubbornly anti.
    A couple of years ago, when I was living in Uganda, The Daily Monitor printed an intelligent, clear, balanced article disussing homosexuality. So, there are Ugandans who understand better. As many have already commented, change takes time. There is hope that Uganda will modify its views. In the meantime, we must ask those hard questions above and ask who is benefitting from the current hysteria?

  • Comment number 58.

    Before @garethgj or anyone else vents their anger at Bahati directly on-line, please think carefully about what you want to achieve. Entrenching his polarised/bigoted views of non-African culture and gay people is probably not going to help anyone and may actually do harm to gay people in Uganda. Don't play games with people's safety whilst sat behind your computer screen in the comfort of your home in the global north.

  • Comment number 59.

    Scott should have done better research and stayed in the country longer before doing this scaremongering!I have lived in Uganda most of my life and have never experienced a gay person being hunted down or killed or living in fear of their life being taken away.The responses people gave to Scott in his interviews suggesting that gay people should be imprisoned or killed are very different from what they do in practice.Such responses are only given so one can prove to others his/her utmost distate for homosexuality and to remove any suspicion that he/she may be gay.Homosexuals are shunned by society in Uganda but they are not under threat of death like Scott would want the world to believe.Scotts documentary will only encourage a wave of assylum seekers claiming gay persecution and create a wrong impression about Uganda.

  • Comment number 60.

    To Sam and some others: I'm afraid it's very simple. Many Ugandans, actively encouraged by Christian and Muslim leaders, hate homosexuals and would be happy to see us killed. It's the same phenomenon as pre-Nazi European anti-semitism. No doubt some genuinely believed that Jews used children's blood in the cooking, but that's hardly an excuse.

  • Comment number 61.

    The issue of widespread homophobia in Uganda is a serious issue and the more I think about it, the more I am saddened that the documentary did not do it any justice. It has however managed to stir up a lot of emotion going by the comments on this and other fora. Let us not forget that Uganda was a British protectorate until 1962 and the penal code of Uganda which outlines homosexuality as a crime was handed to Uganda by the British. Christianity too, which a lot of anti-gay activists cite, was introduced to Uganda by the British explorers (Church Missionary Society) in the 1800s who felt that whatever the indigenous Africans were worshipping was "primitive". I therefore feel the Ugandan public has been unfairly villified for adhering to beliefs that were handed to them by those that "knew" better and should not be labelled "primitive" or "backward" for having an opinion. For those that are not aware, open sewers, filth and general poor standards of living are a reality for many Ugandans and showing this in the documentary just led me to believe that there was a deliberate attempt to paint as bleak a picture as possible. If the picture was so bad, would there be a "gay club"? Wouldn't there be daily reports of violent attacks on gays? Would the gays who have "sought refuge" in the slums be safe considering that these slums are well known to harbour hardcore criminal gangs, druggies, prostitutes etc. I believe the facts on the ground have been somewhat distorted and have managed to stir up some hysteria in certain circles (clearly evidenced by an increase in Ugandans claiming asylum on grounds of being gay and facing persecution back home) so l hope restraint can be exercised before tarnishing the name of Ugandans.

  • Comment number 62.

    Hi Scott, just watched your programme and found it really interesting.
    I am a social work student and just got back from a 6 week placement in Uganda last week, i was working at a hiv/aids organisation called, 'the positive men's union' i asked the organiser there about the situation of having a men's union for service users with hiv and if any of the men in the union were gay, he said that he didn't know as the men would be too scared to come out although he would like to see that happen one day.
    I have to say that the union, (POMU) was completely supportive of gay men and the organiser even wrote a heartfelt tribute to David Kato as David was murdered a couple weeks ago when i was in Kampala.
    During the 6 weeks i spent in Uganda, i found pretty much all Ugandans to be some of the most nicest, and helpful people i have ever met in my life, although the few conversations that i had with some people about homosexuality brought about similiar comments to that of the young school people you spoke to, just brainwashed opinions to be honest.
    thanks for making this programme, i personally would love to go back to Uganda one day and hope that the people's mentalities about homosexuality have changed.
    all the best,
    Carlos

  • Comment number 63.

    The impression that I'm getting from the comments posted here is that there were a number of knowledgable, concerned and intelligent people watched the programme. I'm beginning to wonder if the BBC pitched the programme at the wrong level? This was a subject more worthy of a serious BBC 1 or 2 current affairs programme rather than a BBC3 shock-jock type presentation. Well, ok, Scott isn't the kind of bottom feeding shock-jocks that they have in the States, but you get the idea. The subject is worthy of more careful coverage than it was given.

  • Comment number 64.

    I'm afraid I can't agree with GeoTraveller. I thought that the somewhat amateurish style of the investigation made it all the more convincing. Scott asked people what they thought and they told him. Understandably, some have found it difficult to palate.

  • Comment number 65.

    You can tell the MP who threatened Scott Mills and introcuded the anti-gay bill, if you think he is wrong on his Face Book page, David Bahati

  • Comment number 66.

    My partner is from Malawi where being gay also carries a 14 year jail sentence (as it does in Uganda). We had to fight very hard to gain asylum for my partner as the UK border agency are inherently homophobic and intent on sending lesbian and gay men back to countries where their life is in danger (Google for the Stonewall report on this ‘No going back’).

    We also set up a Facebook group for Tiwonge and Steven the gay couple in Malawi who were sentenced to 14yrs in prison and this attracted 30 thousand supporters (for more info and to join search for ‘Support for the gay couple sentenced to 14yrs in prison’ on Facebook). Eventually this couple were pardoned due to pressure from the Europe but this hasn’t solved anything for gay people in Malawi or Africa as a whole.

    The UK government have said that they will no longer send gay men and women back to oppressive regimes however this means that the UK border agency are forcing gay men and women to prove their sexuality and this is almost impossible for those people who have lived most of their lives in secret and therefore have no ‘out’ gay life as we are so lucky to have in the UK

    My partner and I even had to fax pictures of us having sex to the UK order agency at Harmondsworth immigration removal centre where my partner was held (a prison for asylum seekers run very badly by a private security firm for the UK government) to prove that my partner is gay!

    This is the problem that African gay men and women like Brenda Namiggade now face – having to prove their sexuality in the courts despite having lived their lives in fear in the closet thus having no proof

    The reason for such anti gay sentiment in Africa is a legacy of anti gay colonial laws that remain in Africa (that we in the UK actually gave to Africa but which most Africans now seem to think are their own laws) and a far right American Christian evangelical movement who send preachers to Africa to promote gay hatred thus indoctrinating African men and women. This is largely because this far right movement is fighting a loosing battle in America, UK and most of Europe where being gay is largely OK and thus they want to spread their hatred elsewhere and where better than the developing world which are still largely Christian.

    Although I think this programme did a lot of good in exposing what’s going on in Africa I don’t think it goes far enough and I’m not sure Scott mills was the right man for the job

    I am very concerned that a large number of people were ‘outed’ by the programme and they still have to live in Uganda while Scott Mills enjoys the relative safety of the UK

    The film will be seen by those in power in Uganda (they do have the internet) on YouTube etc

    I want to know what the BBC have done to protect the gay men and women they left behind after outing them and filming has ended?

    I hope Scott Mills doesn’t have blood on his hands!

  • Comment number 67.

    I was very interested in the content of the Documentary, it was both very revealing, and well constructed. However, I thought Scott Mills was an inappropraite presenter. He seemed whiney and unprofessional and his sympathy seemed genuine but patronising. Also his unscripted monologues were inarticulate and repetitive. Finally, his continuous affirmations of how "fine" his life had been seemed self-centred and a little unnecessary.
    I think Scott Mills is a good radio presenter, but for such a serious and sensitive issue, he was a bad choice. Frankly, I thought it spoiled the documentary.

  • Comment number 68.

    And once again religion proves itself to be the root of an evil.

    p.s. could I have my pink pounds back please.

  • Comment number 69.

    **** I think it's very important we know what has happened since to the subject of this programme. ****

    Are the programme makers following this up? Many won't have been surprised by the blind state-encouraged hatred (and lack of Christian love) shown by Ugandans to gay people. Sadly Scott's questions never really challenged them, either on logic or theological grounds.

  • Comment number 70.

    can not believe people are allowed to treat other people like that. I am not a gay person but have NO problems with those who are. It is jus the way they are. Would these people in Uganda and other hompohobic places say that about someone who who were born a different colour. Ur sexuality is the same as ur race it can not be changed. I am heterosexual and i know that no one will turn me away from that so i know that people who are gay can not be turned into a heterosexual. These people in these countries should not b allowed to lead countries and hav jobs which influence people.
    I loved the guy who said that scott mills had been recruited to be a gay man. I culd not get my head around the fact that the guy actually believed that. Why can people like him and all the other homophobs and racists jus learn to ignore it and learn to live with it. If i do not like how someone lives their life i do not protest and want them killed I jus leave them to get on with their own life and i can get on with mine.

  • Comment number 71.

    Countries like Uganda, Jamaica, Kenya etc whose populace are encouraged to be viciously anti-gay should at no time be called a 'Christian Country'. I am a Christian and I have read the bible and at no time Jesus said anything homophobic or encouraged anyone to treat homosexuals less than a human being. Jesus was about Love and Tolerance. Therefore these countries have tarnished the name of Jesus, making people think to be a follower of Christ is to be hateful to others.

    I applaud Scott Mills for his brave effort, because many people in civilized countries like the UK do not know the plight gays go through in countries like Uganda. Those people in Uganda are like robots when it comes to their beliefs on homosexuality. They believe gays should be thrown in prison for life, or be put to death, and for what? Because they love someone of the same gender; how stupid can they be? I would never go to countries like Uganda or Jamaica as a tourist to support a government that promotes laws and attitudes that harm another.

  • Comment number 72.

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  • Comment number 73.

    It's nice to see the West yet again get on it moral 'high horse'. Why are BBC3 docs so Eurocentric? Maybe my recal of European history is a bit off but who invented the laws on Sodomy and Homosexuality? Who went on a whistlestop tour of the Globe decrying the beliefs of indigenous peoples and tearing down temples and monuments that were too sexualised in their own Western view of the world? Who put people on a slave ship named 'The good ship Jesus'and took away their names? Who to this very day locks up people for their different beliefs on drugs? Answer- England.
    So you see its all well that Scott Mills is going to do his good works in Africa, but at the same time he is just a modern day colonialist who is seeking to project his own eurocentric views on the wider world and if you don't like his views you are his enemy.

    I have nothing against two consenting adults doing what they want in the privacy of their own home, unlike the British Goverment who denies me the right to grow or smoke cannabis in my own home to this very day.

    So you see it's not only so called 'primative cultures' that deny people their basic human rights and criminalise people for their beliefs, the West also do it. You may reply that smoking Cannabis is a choice but thats the same answer the Ugangdans would give on the issue of Homosexuality.

    Each culture has their own value system, which is never perfect, things change but it cannot be forced upon a people against their will or you will just see resistance like you did in the program. I wonder if Scott would support my campaign for cannabis legalisation in the UK? I feel that if he didn't he would just be another hypocrite pushing his own agenda while ignoring other peoples 'human rights'.

  • Comment number 74.

    I applaud Scott on this documentary, and it is indeed very sad to witness the kinds of attitudes displayed by some Ugandans. However, as someone who has been to Uganda a number of times, I'm afraid I couldn't fully relate to the idea that most Ugandans were murderous homophobes.

    What I would love to know is this: how many Ugandans were interviewed on the streets of Kampala in order to obtain the edited coverage of the views which were shown in the documentary? We know that the media love to sensationalise issues, so... How many?

    Come on, BBC, give us this information!

  • Comment number 75.

    Firstly, let me state that I am not homophobic, but I do read the Bible because there is a lot of wisdom written in it, older than 3500 years and certainly older than this civilisation. When it comes to tolerance, I tell people of the Bible story of 'The Good Samaritan'. If I had been beaten up or incapacitated in some way, would I accept help from a gay/woman/black/white person? Yes of course I would, and would be thankful for the help. We must be tolerant of people regardless of race sex or sexual orientation. Everybody has the right to live. But why is it, when reading the comments on the subject, every one is applauding Scott Mills, and not one disagrees with him? Because the moderator has removed all negative comments, due to the houserules and the law.

    What is the difference between the dictators in Uganda and the dictators in this country, Where everybody has rights, whether sex offenders or burgulars, but nobody has the right voice their opinion on something that even the laws of nature go against.

    In 20 years to come when Sex offenders are making BBC programs, saying that we should all accept what they do because 'THEY WERE BORN LIKE IT' and calling the rest of the nation primative because we don't agree with their lifestyle, is Scott going to be as tolerant as he wants the rest of the world to be.

    I am a Black man who grew up in the 70's where racism was commonplace. Race Laws have been introduced since then and it's illegal to be racist, but do you think the Law changes peoples minds? Whoever didn't like black people before the law changed, still do not like black people now, they just can't say it, but I meet racist people now in 2011

    I like Scott Mills and i think his Radio Show is probably the best show on the BBC, but that's because he's funny and entertaining, not because he's gay. But if I was told that I to listen to it, then I wouldn't,

    This comment probably will not get posted, but I would be glad to hear Scott's opinion on it, which he is entitled to.

  • Comment number 76.

    i think Scott should be commended for doing this programme he has
    highlighted the fact that in 2011 some people still live in the dark ages
    when it comes towards there attitudes of homosexuality.

    when i watched the programme murders or rapists were not mentioned or how they should be punished,i was so shocked at how narrow minded the people were if they opended there hearts then maybe they might be able to learn something.

    if people keep hateing oneanother for something that they cant change then nothing is gonna change i hope that one day people might look back at this and be ashamed

  • Comment number 77.

    Dante, you're not doing a good job of representing Christianity's values.

    Of course homophobia, racism etc any discrimination is evident across the planet, whether you have laws to protect against it or not. The difference is in societal attitudes - large swathes of Britain really do not care if someone is gay, and fewer still would go beyond (dreadful as it is) name calling.

    Again, some people will say that is politically correct culture taking over Britain, as if it's a negative. No, Britain should be proud of it... do the "PC gone mad" folk honestly believe we would be better of if we were like Uganda?

  • Comment number 78.

    Why are these negative, racist, neo-colonialist comments and descriptions of Ugandans repeatedly accepted by the BBC Moderators? If I were to post a comment describing Homosexuals as primitive, stupid, backward, unbeautiful people as many others on the blog here, I bet it would not be posted and it would understandably cause great offense. I will test this theory by doing that now, and see how far that post goes. In defending homosexulality aggressively, you are contradicting yourselves by showing agression and intolerance for another group who think and behave differently from what you believe is right and acceptable.

  • Comment number 79.

    whats the song played bout half way through.

  • Comment number 80.

    I hope the politicians of Uganda read this. I have contributed much to African charities over the years. However, several of my family are gay and I love them to bits. They have not "chosen" to be gay, they just are. They are lovely people. I now refuse to contribute one single penny to any charity that may go to a regime that completely denies the human rights of a significant proportion of the population.
    Be fair to everyone. You can't have it both ways, you bigots.

  • Comment number 81.

    Have just seen your documentary: The World's Worst Place to Be Gay? - 'Radio 1 DJ Scott Mills travels to Uganda, where gay citizens face jail sentences of 14 years. He finds out what it is like to live in a society where people are persecuted for being homosexual, and meets those leading the hate campaign.'
    OMG how awful - I can't begin to imagine what it must be like to be gay in the majority of Africa - I had no idea it is so bad - and getting worse.
    Big up to you Scott for making this very brave film - it must have been life changing - and it saddens me that many here in the LGBT community seem to take what we have for granted.

  • Comment number 82.

    It's about time that black people are exposed as the bigots they are. We need to stop giving charity to these countries. They deserve to die a long miserable death of poverty. F$%^ them.

 

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