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EMO WAR.

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  • 17 Oct 06, 03:47 PM

so it all started from an ill informed article in the daily mail.. check it here

then there was the pages of letters in the NME and Kerrang..protesting against the 'EMO' stereotype...

now there's the EMO rangers show on MTV2

and My Chemical Romance are number 1 in the UK charts.

who's side are you on and why? we'll be discussing this on the show on sunday and need your input. What do you think of EMO music? do you think that kids who like EMO are getting an unecessarily hard time? why do you think there's been this sudden backlash? Is this bringing EMO kids closer together?

your thought and opionions please.. and send us your links for the best blogs and sites for emo lovers or haters..

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  1. At 05:58 PM on 17 Oct 2006, Jon wrote:

    The problem is that hardly any of these "emo" kids are actualy emo. They're just scene kids that will change as soon as its not kl to be emo. What really gets me is how bands like MCR can get away with calling themselves metal.

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  2. At 09:19 PM on 17 Oct 2006, H wrote:

    if you, or anyone, is going to talk about emo music, do NOT EVER mention MCR as they have NOTHING to do with the genre. they are a POP band... just like evrything else in the charts and everything on daytime radio.

    and kids trends have nothing to do with it either. most of the kids have never heard an emo band... they just think they have because of media coverage like this.

    none of this has anything to do with emo, apart from being a horrible mis-use of the term.

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  3. At 10:47 PM on 17 Oct 2006, Stephen Smith wrote:

    In 1968 John Lennon sang "Yes I'm lonely, wanna die, if I aint dead already, girl you know the reason why", in the song, "Yer Blues", on the White Album. Was Yoko an EMO?

    Whatever floats your boat. It's meant to be a free country, although we know it's not. The self harm aspect is a small minority and can be a cry for help rather than following a fashion. Is the so called EMO backlash exaggerated by the media? As for the Daily Mail's article; it will come in handy in the small room.

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  4. At 01:03 AM on 18 Oct 2006, Stephen Smith wrote:

    To expand on my earlier comment, all original fashions, music or way of life are eventually attacked by the media, who can be very destructive in their criticism of young people. (The tall poppy syndrome). It could be argued that any fashion, type of music or way of life reflects the world that we live in. They don't just appear out of the blue for no reason at all. They are a reaction to the way things are in the world. We create the environment for them to flourish and then give them a good kicking.

    As I said before, what ever floats your boat!

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  5. At 09:40 AM on 18 Oct 2006, Christopher Rhodes wrote:

    I wouldnt class myself as an emo kid, but they are harmless enough, ok they all look alike, so what.

    I don't like the fact a top class newspaper as the Daily Mail would stoop so low as to say emo's all cut themselves, dont people in all walks of life do that?!

    Yes emo songs are sad, about death, break ups, lose of people, but the lyrics are meant for comfort so people know there not alone in what they are going through.
    When I broke up with an ex I used to listen to Dashboard Confessional alot and that helped me, knowing that people cheat, to people all over the world, and im not alone in how I felt, and I could see things in them lyrics that meant alot to me.

    The thing with "emo" now is that it is a fashion more than the music, over the past 3-5 years I've seen them expand alot, where I live in Leeds the local "hang out spot" for them has seen about 10-15 kids hang about chattin with each other to about 40 now.

    The music as well it seems any band gets dropped into "emo" if it falls into what the fashion looks like. Bands like Panic at The Disco!, Fall Out Boy, MCR, are NOT emo, there pop-punk.
    Bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Dashboard Confessional, Bright Eyes are emo music (to me)

    For me I'd rather see a bunch of emo kids walking round than chavs as emo ain't threatening in groups (unlike chavs), their harmless kids who find someone with each other to talk about, they dont all meet up and cut each other and write suicide notes like people would like to think.

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  6. At 03:03 PM on 18 Oct 2006, Roberto Carlos Alvarez-Galloso,CPUR wrote:

    Great article.

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  7. At 05:45 PM on 18 Oct 2006, Mazzie Mogwai wrote:

    oh for god's sake. right, people of all kinds of different subcultures have been getting ragged on for one reason or another for YEARS. The 'emo's aren't the only ones. Victimisation wasn't invented just for them so they can whinge on about it in their livejournals - a wild generalisation maybe, but they do it. i've seen it with my own eyes. So the daily mail wrote a ridiculous piece on Emos... so what?! Since when has the daily mail ever been a bastion for non-reactionary, sensible journalism anyway? and now we've got to put up with more whining about how the supposed 'emos' are being victimised and how everyone hates them... Just suck it up and move on. It happens. Maybe people wouldn't be 'victimised' if they didn't act like victims in the first place!

    And this is all because MCR and panic at the disco got booed and bottled at Reading. Have ANY of you people ever stopped to think that maybe that they got bottled and booed (much like the rasmus et al before them) because well.... they're s***e? Nothing to do with being 'Emo' but because they are actually rubbish whatsoever. they're mass produced garbage for the kids who've suddenly decided that rock music is cool.

    They're no better than McFly.

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  8. At 07:05 PM on 18 Oct 2006, .25 Crisis Kid wrote:

    I think majority of "emo" kids don't know what "emo" is...they only know mainstream of it...but I do think people should stop being rude about it...I mean, I don't think a "punk" would dig getting hated on by someone because of his tight black jeans and gnarly hair...so...let people be!

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  9. At 07:48 PM on 18 Oct 2006, H wrote:

    I spend this afternoon having a pint with a guy from an emo band who were talking about releasing their album.

    This band are in their 20s and they look normal. they are however a non-profit band. they have asked SPECIFICALLY to NOT have their album in major stores or on iTunes. they dont WANT to make any profit. they dont want to use plastic cases... they're human rights activists, they would prefer to release on Vinyl rather than CD, they'd rather not sign a contract, they would rather play shows for free than ask for cash... they dont want more than 500 copies made at one time. ALL they want to do, is play music, and make it available for people to enjoy it if they look. Live.. they mess things up, they jump around, they dont care what they look like or if they get hurt as long as thats what the music makes them feel like doing.

    now this is a real emo band with emo values. do 15-year-olds who buy songs from iTunes, spend hours on their hair and wear Converse sond like they have anything to do with this scene?

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  10. At 06:09 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Rhys Morgan wrote:

    Who cares about emo and whos not? MCR are a great punk/metal/emo or whatever you want to call them group (NOT pop!).

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  11. At 09:32 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Emma wrote:

    Omg! I get called emo alllll the time because i listen to that kind of music and have black hair, but i don't think of myself as 'EMO'. If there are people out there that are EMO and want to express it then i think they should. The stereotype is dyed black hair and black eyeliner, skinny jeans etc. but the other stereotype is self-harming which i do not condone in any way! I know people who self-harm because they think it is 'EMO', those people need serious help. But there is also a growing trend of CHAVS! why is no-one writing in the Daily Mail about that? Eurgh!

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  12. At 09:38 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Stuart Harris wrote:

    I had some arrogant music 'rock purist' call me an 'emo' as soon as I stated that I liked the 'My Chemical Romance' track. He said it as if I was a loser, and an outcast. Pah it's music - if you like music whatever it's genre, that's what it's all about. I've listened to other MCR tracks, and to be honest they don't appeal to my taste. Just their big epic pop 'emo' appeals to me.

    I don't like genre's it ruins everything, people become loyal to a particular genre, and despise anything else, and people that like anything different to they do. Good music is good music - end of!

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  13. At 09:42 PM on 19 Oct 2006, deacon wrote:

    emos now, goths a few years back... back in the mid 90's when i was a teenager there were 'grungers' and 'metalers'. kids (and a few adults) are always going to latch on to what's cool. at the moment you have emos and chavs ruling the teen fashion choices. it's always gonna happen, just let them get on with it (you know they'll grow out of it) and stop finding reasons to hate other people

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  14. At 09:50 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    End of the day, its all music, no matter what genre, people are guna like it or not like it.

    The only thing i can definatley say is that listening to MCR has never made me want to harm myself.

    Just let music be music, if you dont like it, turn it off. if you do like it, turn it up!!!!

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  15. At 09:53 PM on 19 Oct 2006, James wrote:

    EMO, who cares at the end of the day everyone likes different music. If people are worried about "emo kids" why waste time and effort moaning about it.

    If it is seen as being cool to be emo then it is the media promoting it, i'm sure you've all heard the phrase all publicity is good publicity. If its the bands themselves that people are disliking then dont listen to them. There are more worrying bands in the world then so called emo bands.

    Also self harm, every genre has it, its not the music its all people it all walks of live that have bigger problems than the type of bands they listen to. Chavs do it so do the the metal heads so do emo kids so does R'n'B/HipHop genre. The people who self harm, self harm regardless of the music taste.

    Long live the freedom of choice!!!

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  16. At 09:54 PM on 19 Oct 2006, daz wrote:

    i think that emo has a place in the music scene now but the people that promote this music won't give anything else the same chance. i'm in a band and i feel that playing with "emo" bands, our band could support others well. but the way "emo" fans won't make the same sacrifice to appreciate anything else makes me ask the question, why give them support when it there is no appreciation?

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  17. At 10:00 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Siobhan wrote:

    it's all 'pop'. 'pop' music is the music that is popular. everyone needs to get over that. i am a 'pop' music fan, as i love pretty much all the songs in the charts, and always have. this 'emo' thing is ridiculous, who cares? at the end of the day, it's music. it's a band or artist who can create music, and have a talent that should be envied, not fought over. we should embrace it all, not label everything we hear, and everyone we see.

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  18. At 10:11 PM on 19 Oct 2006, ahmed wrote:

    it's just a new form of phoniness (catcher in the rye), if you really wanted to be individual or not conform to society then you would conform to society simply becasue there are more emos, goths, gangsters etc. than there are normal people. take it from me i'm a teenager and the most original thing i can do is conform to society's conventions, retain some sense of normality but show sparks of individuality but in a much more measured and less attention seeking way than wearing converses and wristbands. if you think my views are bigoted or overly critical, good, everyone's entitled to a view and just becasue i don't think it's right doesn't mean i will actually take action against emos, so none of this it's my right crap ok.

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  19. At 10:15 PM on 19 Oct 2006, xJodiex wrote:

    well personally i love the "EMO" fashion, the kinda gothic but not look rocks my socks! Although I dnt lyk the way "EMOS" think about depression and harming themselves, its slightly depressing. You could say im just a regular teenager going through a faze and is copying others, but i can assure you im not. Yea its become popular now to be "EMO" but i only dress that way because its me and its who i am. I dont lyk it when ppl take the micky out of them, being "EMO" is just a simple way of expressing emotions and experimenting with fashion. Which is what i'm doing and loving every minute of it XD btw MCR rocks and are NOT POP!

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  20. At 10:22 PM on 19 Oct 2006, tom - aged 16 wrote:

    i think the music is cool, there is nothing wrong with that, each to there own. BUT the clothes and attitudes are scary for older people and some small children, people should be allowed to wear what they want but nothing which is going to upset the general public. they should change into something sensible and respectable: for example a pair of jeans (blue) and a jumper (not emo black). in 5 years time they will only regret making themselves look scary and wierd! this is my outlook anyway
    love tom xxx

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  21. At 10:24 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Dan wrote:

    I would like to comment on Christopher Rhodes addition to this debate. i listen to MCR, the kooks, razorlight. well abit of everything really. i am not emo/chav or in any catagory what so ever. i find it offensive that he thinks chavs are intimidating as every teenager dresses like this. the hoodys, baseball caps, tracky bottoms and trainers. i find goths intimidating in all their black clothes and make up. maybe its because they stand out so much, but there is always huge groups of them hanging around.

    i wear what i like and listen to any music that i decide i like. im not any of these things so how can people say all people that listen to MCR are emo? it cant have gotten to number 1 with only the emo community buying the CD!!!

    additional comment: can everyone please stop refering to people who wear tracky bottoms as chavs! i wear them because they are comfy and practicle not because i want to mug old ladies!

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  22. At 10:58 PM on 19 Oct 2006, sean wrote:

    most emo's dont self harm, alot of ppl who are goths who i know have done and alot of normal ppl have, im not saying goths or emos arent normal they're just different in a good way! lets just face it the ppl at the daily mail are scare mongering for parents like sally off coro who dont know or understand wot emo or metal or goth is about and who cares if vogue has a spread on goth, most goths wont be reading it!!

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  23. At 11:04 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Benny wrote:

    What a heap of shmuck.

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  24. At 11:11 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Alex wrote:

    I have always enjoyed listening to rock and metal music. As i got older my music taste got heavier. Now i listen to Marilyn Manson and Rammstein, however i do not wear make-up or black clothes and hang celtic crosses round my neck. I listen to that sort music because it is the stlye of music that i am into, it is not a way of life.

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  25. At 11:36 PM on 19 Oct 2006, Matty Botham wrote:

    yeah so the article in the paper was a load of tripe, ill informed tripe that was used to fill some pages and an attempt to keep in tune with the youth of today. the emo debate as its being called is quite frankly getting tedious. the emo of today isnt the emo of a few years ago, its just a scene and a fashion trend that has snowballed. it happened a few years ago with the rise of nu metal, except the rival chav phenomenon wasnt so big back then. the so called emo bands at the moment are in fact pop punk, or just plain pop. as a music lover i have no problem with these bands introducing people to music, and being a stepping stone to better, more talented bands and artists. the word emo is obviously short for emotion, and the emo genre in fact stems from the american hardcore scene, but slightly lighter and punkier. none of the current bands being tagged with that label are emo, and i hate that word being applied to bands that are in fact post-hardcore or straight punk bands. just because a song is catchy doesnt make it emo, or because the band members happen to wear converse doesnt make them emo. the emo of today is a fashion scene, plain and simple. and it will be over soon once the kiddies realise how rubbish some of the "awesome" bands are, or high street shops stop stocking tight jeans. its not a bad thing, its just a fashion cycle, combined with a mutual appreciation for music among the people.

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  26. At 12:03 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Alex wrote:

    It's all a fad, one big fad. Weather your a greasy "metaller", a wining "emo" or a pill popping "chav", your all just latched on to one big fad.

    The thing that amuses me most about "emo" followers, is they take pride in denying that they are "emo". They obviously love the attention, and think after a few months of wearing skinny fit, they are too cool to be called "emo", and they are just being themselves. Really, they just love worshiping thier peers, people who were into "emo" first. 95% of the people you see who have latched on to this temporary fad of fashion disaster are really not being themselves, they are doing it because they have seen so many others above them doing it, but of course, they are still being really really original.

    Im not sure how long it will continue to grow, but its demise is imminent. Anyone over the age of 16 who still gets sucked into trends really need's to grow up. My advice is just to ignore them, don't give them the satisfaction of thinking they are "emo", they love it, thats what they want, ignore them and they will go away with any luck.

    My Chemical Romance, well, they are just rubbish. Stupidly simple music, for the simple mind. Posing as heartfelt musicians, making music for the posers.

    Word x

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  27. At 12:10 AM on 20 Oct 2006, liz wrote:

    emo's rok

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  28. At 12:19 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Will wrote:

    Emo kids are not as most people would think (quiet, self hating, introverts) and certainly nearly every emo i've ever spoken to or hung around with (not through my own want) have been loud, irritating and about as funny as famine in the third world (although they think they're hilarious). So it is of my opinion that the emo kids who cut themselves, or are difficult, or refuse to smile at anyone and claim their style is "different" when its the exact same as all the other emo kids' style are crying out for attention. It is partly down to the music but im sure if asian music started being the music for the people who are "different" there'd be the exact same kids dressed in saris and turbans.

    But thats just my view!
    night night

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  29. At 01:57 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Jonathan Schultz wrote:

    My Chemical Romance new album is a lot more metal than their old tracks... much more EMO.

    Emo people like Jon said... will change they are all the same people who change their style to follow like sheep.

    People should be making their own music and celebrate peel.

    Cheers
    Jonathan

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  30. At 03:12 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Kimi wrote:

    I have to agree with Alex as, in my experience, all the kids that fit into the 'emo' style (in my limited view) almost always deny that is what they are. What is a real emo? Has it been lost forever?

    In my opinion the Emo thing is yet another set of guidelines that people can use to legitimately live/act a certain way. By no means is 'emo' the only one around, there are plenty, and there will continue to be.

    It's a perfect way to be androgynous and loud and opinionated with bad (as in chopped) haircuts and hug everyone every five minutes.

    Maybe it's not such a bad thing? Perhaps they are representative of an extremist part of our society where being depressed and down is OK, since in most mainstream society it's not considered that healthy, and is glossed over. Advertising taken into consideration here.

    Yet another pigeon hole. Are we happy about that?

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  31. At 04:26 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Sam Cannon wrote:

    I'm at college in the states and EMO seems to be much bigger here than it is in England. People seem split here too; some people hate it and some love it. One thing that it does do is speak to people who don't fit in anywhere else, which is great, it leads to a really open and tollerant group dynamic.

    The self harm stereotype is slightly misinformed. It is more prevelent in the EMO community but that is more down to the community welcoming the victims and accepting him/her than it causing the problem. I, for one, have found so called EMO kids more friendly and accepting than most other groups of people I've enountered.

    I think that if EMO makes people feel that they have a group of friends and supports them through a difficult time all power to it. What's more it seems to attrat a very talented group of people and if the music's good; who cares.

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  32. At 06:03 AM on 20 Oct 2006, J wrote:

    Its all down to stereotyping and generalisation of youth today again.....my son loves Panic! and was at the secret MCR gig in London.....but he doesn't dress in black, neither is he a manic depressive self-harmer. I think at MCR he had Roberto Cavalli on!! Check him out in this weeks NME pic!

    Actually.......I'll be joining him to see Panic! on Monday at Brixton and I'll be seeing MCR in November at Brixton and next March at Wembley!

    I was, however, horrified at the bottling incident at Reading. We all like different things....why bottle Brendon? If you don't like Panic! why not go watch someone else

    I did think this was a country of free choice.....

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  33. At 06:25 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Nicola wrote:

    I don't want this comment posted but for God's sake get your grammar right - it's "Whose side are you on?" not who's.

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  34. At 06:58 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Joe wrote:

    I would like to say that I dislike emos extremely. They seem to think that they are being different in being so, but they are all the same - people like me, the intelligent ones, are far more unique and far less offensive. There are many times more people who want to be emo than those who want to be the quiet, intelligent type. But (apart from now if you wish to count this, which I do not), we do not shout out about it, and we do not try to seem different from everyone else.

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  35. At 07:10 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Rossi wrote:

    Whats the big deal whether they are EMO or not? You either like the song or you don't and as it is number 1 it would seem that enough people like it.

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  36. At 08:44 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Lauren wrote:

    I thought the Daily Mail article was a load of garbage and a gross generalisation. I also think the label 'emo' is laughable. Can't people listen to a certain type of music without being labelled or stereotyped? Who even classes what 'emo' is anyway? Why can't people just listen to music they like, dress the way they like without getting a hard time. I like My Chemical Romance because I like their songs, not because they're 'emo'. I don't care what genre they are, they make good songs. They've certainly never made me want to harm myself. I think that's a mental issue and the few people I know who do it listen to dance and RnB, not rock or 'emo' or metal or whatever the hell you want to call it. As for the comment someone made about 'wearing converses'- it's just the same generalisation that every stupid person has. I wear converses not because I like so called 'emo' music or because I like 'indie' music, but because I LIKE THE SHOES! THEY'RE COMFY! The same with wearing black! I wear black because I don't like wearing bright colours. I don't like to stand out. I'm a shy person and I think bright colours would draw attention to myself. I don't take it to the extreme. I haven't got black hair, I haven't got long enough nails to paint them black and I wear eyeliner because I think it defines the best part of my body, my eyes. So get over yourself and enter the real world of normal people, who don't want to be labelled.

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  37. At 08:57 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Lauren wrote:

    The fussy, half Scottish side of me made me write this-
    Sam Cannon, I thought your comment was really well written and I agree to an extent, BUT emo isn't only in England, it's in the rest of the UK, ie- Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland, all the islands and that. Great Britain. I wish people would stop calling it England.

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  38. At 09:01 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Joshiee C wrote:

    Emo -- I beleive this is a stereotype, but then again, I can't really say stuff like that, because I get classed as an Emo at school. I beleive if Emo's slit their wrists, its just plain stupid, but everyone has Emo inside them!

    Just the thing that H said...MCR are no way a POP band, Im sorry but if you beleive they are, then you need to have ur brain re-scanned!!! They are Punk/Emo rock!

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  39. At 09:04 AM on 20 Oct 2006, garry wrote:

    hiya there, im in the royal navy, it is a very hard job, but i feel the best kind of music to listen to to relax to is emo, eg my chem, aiden and atreu. im not an emo but i have a lot of very good emo mates, im also in a emo band, and the kind of music we write is awsome its about life experiences just like every other emo band, why not try get rid if all the chavs who seem to have a problem!

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  40. At 09:10 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Foxy wrote:

    ok.....

    who cares if someone is an emo or not.. really... does it matter... no

    and as for the music... if it sounds good listen to it... if you dont like it dont listen to it.... if you're undecided then who cares...

    its easy when you think about it....

    be what you want to be.. do what you want to do..like what you want to like...


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  41. At 09:15 AM on 20 Oct 2006, jacob wrote:

    many kids these days aren't actually emo they are all SCENE!!!! this is even worse they dont actually like or agree with the music they just dress as emo so they fit in and think they are cool. some kids even self harm so they fit in just right. while some people are genuinly in to this genre of music and the lifestyle most kids aren't .they are just wannabe s that dont fit in any where else and are just jumping on the emo bandwagon to look cool

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  42. At 09:15 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Lucy wrote:

    I must say, my only issue with the emo sub-culture is that it makes selfharm fashionable. And i can say this with experience as many of my friends have followed the trend and showed off all their cuts and scars. I think people should realise self harm isnot the way forward and hurts the people close to you, there isnothing worse than makingit fashionable.

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  43. At 09:17 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Gregg Stanley wrote:

    Todays EMO seems to have been very much mixed with yesterdays Goth genre. This misunderstanding however does appear to of created over past few years it own scene/genre in it’s own right.

    Emo did seem to stand for bands like “Texas is the Reason”, “The Promise Ring”, “American Football”, etc. where these bands touched on and came from an Indie background.

    Bands like “Boy Sets Fire” were labelled as “EMO” also despite sounding very different from the previously mentioned bands.

    From here on in it appeared that “EMO” can probably prefix any music genre. Being Hardcore, Punk or Goth (and more …probably).

    It’s the scene that makes it and despite my feelings that “EMO” prefix has been misused and misunderstood it still down to The Kids to be the scene and I hope that the bands will still carry on doing it for The Kids whatever the style of music.

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  44. At 09:22 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Dan Surfer wrote:

    For the most part I totally agree with Mazzie Mogwai & H for their input, totally knocked the nail on the head.

    Since I actually hate emo bands but thats just because i dislike the music, I can also say I dislike the new emo's also...and when I say emo's I mean the kids who were goths last summer but have since started using Garnier Fructis Wave Gel or something to get that perfect eye covering hair and invested in some new converse all stars as well as taking photos of themselves to stick on myspace. The fact is that kids that age will leach onto any new fad, the truth is they are trying to be cool and are totally lost in who they are...its sad but so true.

    I am a surfer and spend alot of time travelling to non-pop influenced countries and its so refreshing to meet regular people who have no agenda. I visited london about 6 months ago and I wanted to leave straight away due to these emo kids being everywhere, some even heckling people for wearing a suit.....i just couldnt believe what i was seeing, utter disgrace.

    I just hate the way they think they are so different from the normal person who wears a suit and has a respectable job when steadily the emo is becoming a majority, i could honestly rant on about this for a long time but it annoys me even talking about it.

    Im going surfing now and never coming back.

    P.s. someone please shut down myspace.com its the lamest thing i have ever seen. Peace.

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  45. At 09:26 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Nick wrote:

    The way i see it is that everything has come full circle! 25 years ago we had the new romantics with their "wierd" clothes and make up. The only thing i have to complain about is a small minority of "emo" kids (who are most probably just scene kids) who have such an attitude problem and believe that being depressed is cool! im not an emo kid but i listen to emo music just as i listen to prog rock, metal, punk, jazz, blues etc.

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  46. At 09:33 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Alex B wrote:

    I find it quite funny that an article from the Daily Mail will get everyone starting a debate. The article just seems to be another rant at any fashion trend that comes along that they don't like and they have probably realised that the fashion industry isn't listening to them going on about the 'size 0 tragedy'. What I do find alarming is that they seem to want everyone to point and laugh at the 'EMOs'. They say that 'EMOs' are exibitionists and that this is wrong but have the paper themselves not just put the wehole thing out for the rest of the country to see, if anything you are doing the very thing you are critisising. They might as well just shove a list of people that bullies can pick on kin school because the media thinks says it's ok to. EMO is a choice you either go with it or you don't. We have to listen to the Daily Mail rant on about how bad Heather Mills is when most of the population has more important things to think about so why can't they deal with the fact that some kids are not going to grow up 'the right way' and vote conservative when they are old enough. Get over it!

    If you are going to judge at least do some proper research and not just skim the latest thing to come out. All you have is MCR and Russell Brand, if I was then I'd sack my researcher. Look at Dashboard Confessional, Bright Eye, Taking Back Sunday etc and you'll find that the lyrics are about heartbreak an not how to top yourself.

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  47. At 09:34 AM on 20 Oct 2006, CM wrote:

    The problem is not the music - I know lots of kids my age (15) who listen and enjoy the music. Bands like Green Day and MCR are not EMO themselves, but the EMO culture is using them as an excuse for themselves and their so-called style. If you are looking for bands who are to blame for this culture, you'll struggle to find any! I would have to agree with Gregg's comment about how the label EMO seems to be tagged to anything remotely heavy or punky

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  48. At 09:37 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Emo Slayer wrote:

    Yo, even if emo's dont self harm..........I will harming them with my emo slaying!

    SAY NO TO EMO...

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  49. At 09:41 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Phoeniks wrote:

    I still don't understand what an emo is!
    It's considered an insult at my school. No-one is proud of being an emo and gets really offended if they are called one.
    And as for it being an abbreviation of emotional, who doesn't have emotions?!

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  50. At 09:43 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Holly Burgess wrote:

    Hey, i like EMO music and so do a load of my mates! We all sing along to it on the bus! Why is this such a big subject?! Most of my mates like emo music, emo is just a different type of music. Whats the problem?!

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  51. At 09:47 AM on 20 Oct 2006, siobhan wrote:

    I think that being an emo is good and bad. It is good as it makes you feel better however emo's can seriusly hurt themselves by doing what they do. Oh well i don't really care what they do they can do what they like because there not going to listen!

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  52. At 10:17 AM on 20 Oct 2006, dan wrote:

    who cares everyone fits into different groups,
    whether it be goth, emo, greb, chav, skater, indy.
    it dosnt really matter does it?

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  53. At 10:28 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Linsey wrote:


    Hi

    Even though i mainly listen to 'emo' music and some death metal and electronica, i don't class myself as emo. I think that people who think someone else is 'emo' or whatever,they should keep their mouths shut and not class someone which they dont want to be classed as.Why cant we just be ourselves and not have these ridiculous stereotypes.
    Phew!
    what an essay.
    bye!
    linsey
    xx

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  54. At 10:33 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Laura wrote:

    One word t describe that article: Rubbish. Having read it, I've seen several traits I recognise in myself - a liking for Green Day (who were emo since when exactly?) and My Chemical Romance, the dyed hair, the black nail polish, the eyeliner, the poetry reading and writing - something tells me being an English student wouldn't hold up as a valid excuse for that - the horror movie fandom (oh, so girls aren't allowed to like being scared now rather than watching love stories are we?), the guitar playing. And Lily Allen an emo? Don't make me laugh! Yet despite the opinion of people who barely know me, if it all, I do not define myself as emo because of a few sweeping generalisations by a newspaper that is clearly stuck in the 1950s.

    Being in a minority because of various personal beliefs, I understand the conflicting need to express one's individuality and to belong to a group that is so prevalent as a teen. Emos, goths, indie kids - call them what you will - are merely rebelling against chav culture. Personally I'd rather have a youth culture of arty kids who are musically inclined towards heartbreak than one of - based purely on the chavs I know of, to counteract those who accuse me of being hypocritical due to my dislike of sweeping generalisations - getting drunk, getting laid, and looking to start a fight at every opportunity. And be honest, how many 'bouncy' chavs do you know?

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  55. At 10:41 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Jane Lee wrote:

    Beatnik, Punk, Grebs, Goth, Emo, its all been done before!
    Its just a uniform to express your musical tastes whilst allowing kids to feel like they belong to something and have something in common. I was a goth in the 80's and it was all about a combined package of the uniform, music, likeminded people and of course to worry your parents to death. The press always blow everything out of proportion and its easier if everything is labelled and pigeon holed. It was the same with Mods and rockers in the 60's.
    Its just chavs and emos now!

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  56. At 10:42 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Emo Rox wrote:

    emos rule...and one day they will rule the earth! All chavs bewarned!

    People give emos a hard time but there is nothing wrong with being emo...people wrongly label people and i think it needs to stop!

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  57. At 10:43 AM on 20 Oct 2006, sophie wrote:

    why do people have to stereotype? whatever clothes and music you listen to people always judge you. why do people judge? i think people have the right to dress as they want without the looks they get!!! people should be who they want to be!

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  58. At 10:45 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Guy wrote:

    This new "trend" isn't even emo....

    Emo was a sub genre of punk/hardcore in the mid/late 80's early 90's. Bands like Rites of Spring, The Promise Ring + The Get up kids.

    This new stuff is pop/rock aimed at teenage boys and girls. Its more about black make up and hair gel than any musical content.

    Emo in this modern context is far too broad to be thrown around and attatched to one band.

    Amazing Prog rock bands like "At the Drive In" and "These Arms are Snakes" could be considered emo in the old conventional sense but they're leagues ahead of theatrical fluff like MCR.

    I suppose the public gets ahold of these terms and just reinvents them as they see fit so I wont spend too much time complaining......

    Anythings better than modern R&B + commercial hip hop though!

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  59. At 10:53 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Gareth Richards wrote:

    This is an article in the Daily Mail. I think that people should not take it to seriously am just supprised they did not try to blame immigrants or single mother for this new trend.

    My sentiment is live and let live viv la differance

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  60. At 10:57 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris webb wrote:

    I'm not an emo my self but a few of my m8s are and i do like alot of there music and i like alot of punky music aswell soi neva had anything against emos

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  61. At 11:16 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Tom wrote:

    I myself like Emo music. By this Im referring to Emotional hardcore like Waterdown and older UnderOATH. NOT under any circumstances are My Chemical Romance Emo and never have been, they're gothic punk, just like Aiden and the Misfits. It's a shame that bands like Hawthorne Heights are represented as Emo as they awful.

    The people often referred to as Emo's and ridiculed are not infact Emo's, but what are reffered to as "Scene Kids" by the hardcore crowd.

    Both the public and the media are to blame for this ignorance and misrepresentation (especially by The Daily Mail).

    Emotional hardcore was started in the Washington hardcore scene by people like Ian Mckaye after Minor Threat split up. After years , people started to classify bands 'Emo' just because they have similar appearances to Hardcore bands. Does the fringe on Bloc Party's Russel make him 'Emo'? Of course not, nor does it make self-harm.

    The unfortunate link with Emo to self harm is also wrong. Although a minority will (like any stereotype), they just happen to be more open about it , which is good as this is likely to draw help. Most mentions of self-harm in 'emo' music is metaphorical (example: Hawthorne Heights-Ohio Is For Lovers)

    With Emo becoming more popular over the years , a backlash (although exaggerated- a couple of attempted bottlings and a tabloid article are hardly a revolt) is is inevitable, it happened with Garage, Nu-Metal and New Wave. The only difference being that these genres were fads, Emotional hardcore has been around 30 odd years and is too deep-rooted to die. Ill gove it 6 months before "War on New Rave- Death to Klaxons!"

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  62. At 11:25 AM on 20 Oct 2006, omi wrote:

    emo means emotional music yea? well then thats almost everything isnt it! Its just the 'fashion' kids nowadays will follow just like any other trend thru the 70s 80s 90s or watever, nothin special just a reinvention of other fashions with a name and stereotype. I dont think half of us around 18/19 really new about it until late school years/college and then it was only people that wer insecure (mainly) that hopped on the band wagon and developed the trend. It is in human nature to be unoriginal because we are the only living thing that can imitate (watch animal documentarys!) even monkeys cant copy another monkey, so this thing about emos trying to be original, in actual fact they'r just following human nature!

    theres no such thing as emo as a specific thing if anything but a word that ppl just throw around carelessly and in some cases hurtfully because of such bad stigma attatched to these supposed people! as long as 'emo' isnt hurting anyone then its not really problem, i guess some people love to hate stuff dont they, english people are renowned for that!

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  63. At 11:25 AM on 20 Oct 2006, ellie wrote:

    I think that emo music rules, i love my chemical romance and bands like that, and i like emo and im not having an unecessarily "hard time" and i have lots of emo mates.

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  64. At 11:30 AM on 20 Oct 2006, charlie jones wrote:

    hey there....me and my friends all listen to emo music but this does not mean were emo...we think emo's do get a hard time...


    im not part of the fashion trend of an emo...i wear what the hell i want...i would even go as far as sometimes sayin i look like a chav...


    yet i get slated for the music i listen to...


    this music means a hell of a lot to me.

    fortunately i dont go thru all the suffering that emo's apparently do...but i do get an insight from listening to the music about what they are goin thru and how hard it is...


    even though that is not directly associated with emo's....anyone could want to kill themselves or slit their wrists or whatever the hell emo's apparently like to do.


    people should be proud of who they are....if emo's are proud of who they are then why are they gettin so much crap from the media and the british public...


    music wise...considered emo...i dont agree myself...but fall out boy, panic! at the disco, taking back sunday, my chemical romance etc etc are the big thing right now...if they werent about then the music industry would be in a bit of a slump...


    also i recently read an article in the sun about more people going to gigs these day than they were 5-10 years ago....this must be thru the uprise of emo/punk music.


    yes emo will probably phase out in the next few years and something new will come in...and get slated...


    the british media and the british public...so judgemental

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  65. At 11:35 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Robert Browne from Derry wrote:

    I LOVE EMO MUSIC. I DONT CARE WHO NO'Z IT I DO. JUST BECAUSE U LISTLEN TO EMO MUSIC DOESNT MEAN U ATTEMPT SUCIDE AS MANY OF MY FRIENDS THINK. I HAVE BEEN CLASIFED AS AN EMO BECAUSE I ABSOLUTLEY LOVE MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE. I LOVED DEM FOR BOUT A YEAR NOW.
    THIS PROB AVE NUFIN D DO WIV D CONVO BUT I SAW A ARTICLE ON MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE SO I WENT ON IT.
    OH AND JOIN THE BLACK PARADE ON DER WEB SITE
    HI LESLEY-ANNE IN DERRY YAY

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  66. At 11:41 AM on 20 Oct 2006, simon robinson wrote:

    I get a bit confused about this...where is the issue I listen to folk and I don’t get dressed as a Morris dancer, listen to country and the cowboy hat stays off, the list can go on...Its meant to be about listening and appreciating music, even the bad stuff has its place. It’s when people are more concerned with the image they portray by following the latest trend of fusion/music. I find subjects like this damage the credibility if the music industry in the way that, I’m sure these people were the same before donning the EMO getup unfortunately its cool to be uncoil so yet again a new fusion trend is born, bands will rise to the top as the ultimate musical fusion accessory and then a new "revolution" will occur and then a whole new classification will be brought about. I Guess what I’m trying to say Goth has been around for ages, the musical influence will always be there its just a method of "creating" a new classification to make it cool whereas what is actually happening is that its recycling what’s already there.

    I'm just here to enjoy the music, I don’t care how I look when I do it, as soon as vanity gets in the way your choices are no longer impartial or open to new things....damn that fashion influence on music!

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  67. At 11:45 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Paul Hawkins wrote:

    Is it just me but not only is this article poorly written but goes about what everybody in the world is encouraged to avoid. Stereotyping. If I'm actually honest with you, the gang of 'children of lost youth' who hang around the Norwich Forum on a Saturday afternoon annoy me (probably moreso because I am not 16 anymore!), but nonetheless they are harmless. It is after all, a trend. Let's make no bones about it, we've all had our own trends we all adhered to in our youth (I went through a skater boy look thing 10 years ago when I was 16) but again, that's all it is. Anyway, the 'children of lost youth' will continue to listen to their 'emo' music bought for them by their parents as all us trendies carry on smiling & enjoying the ride!

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  68. At 11:48 AM on 20 Oct 2006, Brandon wrote:

    That article read like it was written by a 12 year old.

    "Teenage girls are frightened of manliness: they like boys who look like girls. Kate Moss, the girl who never grows old, understands youthful taste completely."

    "Who are the male pin-ups for young girls? Johnny Depp and the comedian Russell Brand, who is about 90 per cent Goth. Lord Byron, of course, was the greatest Goth of all time."

    What research are these statements based on? Russel Brand is goth (90%) because he wears black?..
    This is all just one person's narrow minded view of a youth-culture she doesn't understand or connect to on any level?

    The daily mail is the paper of scandal, hate-mongering, and scare-mongering.

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  69. At 11:54 AM on 20 Oct 2006, ashleah wrote:

    Who are these people telling parents how to bring up their kids? what would they rather have? everyone getting drunk and drugged on the street or kids being safely up in their rooms. This sort of music does not advise kids to slit their wrists or keep their curtains closed or wear tight clothing i have never come across a song that does. What about all these songs that advise kids to drink and do drugs? these are much more important things to critisise i hope the reporter feels ashamed of themselves for calling my chemical romance when they have made it to number 1.

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  70. At 11:57 AM on 20 Oct 2006, CJH wrote:

    It’s always struck me as a funny old contradiction, that music, a medium which (obviously) asks much more of the ears than it does of the eyes, seems preoccupied with pleasing the peepers, sometimes at the expense of producing something that sounds pleasing.

    Now, I don’t want to get in to any debate about what is or what isn’t ‘emo’. It’s far too easy to apply any genre template. Buzz words and poorly researched media hypes is no substitute for experience. I say don’t get confused about the music and culture—they can be separate things.

    As Ms. Sands points out there is plenty in the generation that experienced Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Rocky Horror Show—was all the imagery they promote healthy?

    Now self harm is a whole different melting pot of controversy. I believe that there might be a few other social problems that cause people to resort to self harm.

    ‘…dangerous teenage cult’

    Sounds like scapegoating to me…..

    But that’s just my opinion

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  71. At 12:00 PM on 20 Oct 2006, emo? wrote:

    um... does it really matter?? Each to their own, right? Oh, and MCR are not pop. Don't lie. You liers. Yes but anyway, emo's do all look the same, but they do look quite cool. And yes, it is all mainstream emo. But I am a wannabe punk, so should I really be commenting?!?!?!?!?!


    Well... 'Mon The Fratellis, anyhoo.

    Luff you emo's.... hehe

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  72. At 12:00 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Dani, Josie, Jaz. wrote:

    Emo's Are Really Disturbing! We Have Them In Our School And The Way They Dress And The Makeup They Use Is Discusting. The Way They Threaten To Kill Them Selves Is Really Discusting!! They Efeect The Way We Act In School!!!!! Chavs ForLife!!!!!!! Dani xxxxx

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  73. At 12:00 PM on 20 Oct 2006, emo hater wrote:

    Yo, I think that emoism is very bad people think there cool to be uncool but there not induviduel coz about 100 other people are like that.
    SO SAY NO TO EMOISM

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  74. At 12:02 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Rachel Greenhough wrote:

    Just to let people know before i go on i'm 21 and listen to MCR, Marilyn Manson etc and probably fit into the norm society with the way i dress. So how do you class me?

    What is it with people EMO is just a word and a meaningless one at that. So many people judge poeple by the way the look. WHY? OK so some people want to be different from the norm (which i have to say can be pretty boring) what is wrong with that. Because someone says its not normal its wrong. It won't be long before the world turns back into Nazi Germany with uniformity. As it goes for music people are free to listen to what they want and if certain music makes people happier so be it.

    The Daily Mail needs to do more research before it prints another article like that. All the news wants to do these days is make things up to get people talking. Like claiming Marilyn Manson makes people go into schools and shoot people. Hey I listen to his music and i don't want to do that. And thats my point the news and poeple for that matter always want to put the blame on something and music is the easiest option. EMO at the moment is that word in music that is getting bad publicity saying that kids are self harming because of it. Wrong Kids are self harming mainly becasue of family issues, bullying etc not EMO. And i don't want to bring MCR into this but hey they try and help people with their lryics and so many kids have said how they have helped them through tough times.

    That is all i have to say

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  75. At 12:06 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Kenney wrote:

    To be quite honest, i've been classed as an EMO for a while now but I don't really care, I listen to the music because i enjoy it and isn't that the main thing? This "EMO" topic has only developed in the last few years, making it just like the "Rock 'n' Roll" craze and such like. Its music and people should not be stereotyped because of the music they listen too.

    Let the music do the talking!!


    Kenney (Edinburgh)

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  76. At 12:11 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Samantha M wrote:

    the word "emo" has been over-stereotyped.

    emo is a music genre that does not include bands like my chemical romance. mcr are a band that have become mainstream through making themselves commercial, and i would never class them as emo, there pop for petes sake.

    people who call themselves emo kids think that bands like mcr and panic and the disco are emo, and they dress as appropriate. this is fast becoming the problem. they do not know what real emo music is, they only know what's played on the radio, or shown on music channels. they dress how they like, to reflect their musical tastes, but as i say, most of them only associate emo with bands like mcr and panic.

    its completely diabolical that suicide and self harming is being assiciated with the stereotype "emo" and is so wrong.

    people are too quick to judge and stereotype these days, and take to new trends like fish to water.

    it's a phase, it'll pass.

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  77. At 12:19 PM on 20 Oct 2006, kevin wrote:

    EMO is a very big stereo type involving dress sence, hair styles and musical interests. people also associate EMO's with self harm, saying that EMO is short for "emotionaly disturbed". This is not true. I have been called an EMO because of the way i dress and the way i have my hair and also what i listen to. I hate being branded with the stereo type of EMO. I am and individual, and so are all of those people who are associated with EMO's.

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  78. At 12:20 PM on 20 Oct 2006, rosie wrote:

    im for emo they rock! panic @ the disco rock even though they sey dat dey rnt emo.... they r bt hu cares!

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  79. At 12:20 PM on 20 Oct 2006, praj wrote:

    i no lots of "emos" they are nice people who are going throu hard times and people are makein life worst for them by doin things like this so i think they should Quit

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  80. At 12:23 PM on 20 Oct 2006, lauren wrote:

    This blame on emo* is another escape goat. As Maralyn manson was...as video games were as TV was.

    People need to stop blaming things for their own mistakes. I personally are classed as "emo" but it doesnt define me, the clothes i wear , the hair cut i have says very little about my self. If peolpe want to judge others due to jeans and hair cuts they are the losers.

    My chemical romance rnt even that emo , by the steriotypical definition. Look at bands like Dashboard or second hand serande. People need to grow up and research things properly.

    p.s. emo music i dont think is depressing...indie stuff is.

    Lauren
    "emo kid"
    who is not going to go cry in the corner.

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  81. At 12:28 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jimmy wrote:

    I don't get emo 'music' at all or as they call it 'emotional punk'. it sucks!! why do people listen to a screamy whiney American 19 year old lad telling them to hurt themselves because his girlfriend hates him, whiles playing power chord after power chord and failing at a 'killer solo'. half the kids that dress up and hang around in groups with knives in there pockets just incase they feel the need to 'relieve themselves' thinking less of every other person around them and shouting for attention because they deserve it... Besides its not about the music, its about the stupid clothes and black eyeliner, which isnt music.

    listen to somthing decent....

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  82. At 12:31 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Lisa wrote:

    To "H" to spoke to a real EMO band... if they are an fine example of this genre then it is doomed to die as they are ill-informed and simply stupid.

    If they are so anti plastic cases/cds - why are they releasing on VINYL - A PLASTIC.

    You ruined a good post by that show of stupidity.
    As for EMO's, it is fashionable for pre-teens, before that the 90's it was something else. It deosn't mena that the genre should be laughed at because it appeals to a mass audience.

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  83. At 12:37 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Niall Innes wrote:

    For some reason, the media and socially intolerant people feel the need to pigeon hole anyone who doesn't fit the "normal" and comfortable stereotypes. According to the Daily Mail, I fit into the adult goth category though I would hardly consider myself to look the part these days.

    Everyone has a right to express themselves and doing so during the teenage years is, and always been a sign of individuality or just to follow the crowd. I was always happy as a teenage goth as I stood out from the masses as having made a choice of my own. Sure, I got abuse (verbal mostly) but I wasn't miserable, didn't live in the dark and wasn't uncomunicative.

    The so called "Emos" of today are just the latest way for people who choose to do so, to express themselves in a certain way. When I was young, there were casuals, goths, rockers, squares. I don't think it has any bearing on whether or not you decide to self harm. I knew plenty of goths and not one of them did this. Most young folk will choose to slot themselves into one of the pigeon holes or another. All of them probably have the few who could be used as a worst case scenario to label all the rest.

    Leave the emos and all the rest of them alone. What harm are they doing to the rest of us?

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  84. At 12:39 PM on 20 Oct 2006, shauna wrote:

    Emo has been around for a long time and no one knew what it was and now suddenly eveyone uses the term emo, mostly as an insult, it is also now the latest trend but what annoys me the most is the fact that people can call my chemical romance as an 'emo' band and not relise that when you listen to their songs, its not emo at all, they don't even associate themselves as part of the sudden emo craze. they are much better than that, they are a category of their own. a damn good one at that.

    What is emo anyway?

    people who cut themselves? this is a very serious matter and shouldnt be taken lightly, so everyone who is suicidal or cut themselves is emo.

    People who write poetry or songs that is emotional? So most famous poets and song writers are emo, because lets face it most poems and songs are based on love. right?

    People who wear stripey socks maybe?

    People can like and think what they want without being critisied.

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  85. At 12:41 PM on 20 Oct 2006, stef, Jersey, C.I wrote:

    emo's( or as i call them emu's) all have one thing in common, they are all trying to be so different that they all become so similar, their wrists and black across-the-face-hair and hate of 'chavs' really does get tiring. i dont see why blood pouring from your wrists is something to be proud of, all this attention seeking gets boring, and have u ever noticed not one of them is smiling? it really doesnt sound like a fun idea to be engrossed(sp) in.

    and to whoever mentions heartbreak, we all go through it, except the emu culture indulge in razor blades and self harm as opposed to seeking real help like counselling or making friends.

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  86. At 12:42 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jess wrote:

    I think that 'emo' is very stereotypical and i dont agree with labelling. People say that Emos slit their wrist and are always depressed which is not always true for the majority of them. I listen to 'emo'music only i dont like heavy emo music because it makes me unhappy. It stands for emotional although aren't everyone?

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  87. At 12:43 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Laurel wrote:

    I think the whole 'debate' is a load of bo***cks! As a middle class 21 year old woman I guess I'm not the target audience for 'EMO' music, but I really enjoy it. Everyone seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be about the music, not silly little children who are influenced by it! A lot of so called 'EMO' bands like Panic! At the Disco, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical ROmance etc just make really good, catchy, tunes and they shouldnt be labelled and put down because of it. I think it's the stupid little kids who take the lyrics and the band's image too seriously that are the real problem here!

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  88. At 12:43 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jessi wrote:

    'Emo' or emotional, started off a as a music genre to show that the lyrics & the music that complimented them were about emotions.
    'Emo' has been so over exaggerated recently.
    Being 'emo' is about being sucicidal, self harming, or anything that people associate with emos, including wearing black.
    I could call myself 'emo' as I tend to be an emotional person - but then again everyone is emotional. We all feel happiness, sadness, pain, joy etc etc.
    I only read a part of the article in the Daily Mail, but I strongly disagree with it.
    At the end of the day, 'emo' is associated to music that talks about emotions and reality, not people.

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  89. At 12:56 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Mat Duke wrote:

    Emo is a fad. Its teenages who love attention, and teenagers who long for friendship and in reality there is nothing wrong with a group of teenagers who want friends who feel the same as them
    Mat
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  90. At 01:03 PM on 20 Oct 2006, lyssa wrote:

    it really anoys me the need we have to classify everything.
    What is wrong with being ecletic.
    I like such a wide range of music and i dress how my mood dictates.
    I am proud of that.

    I am going to watch panic at the disco on monday at brixton academy and i am so excited, and a friend started going on about me being emo
    yes i like some "emo" music and sometimes i dress similarly.

    But i also listen to drumb and bass, classical, and r'n'b.

    I dont see what our fasonation with labels is.

    Wes hould be who we are

    Individuals!!!!


    lyssa
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  91. At 01:08 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Lauren wrote:

    Why do people take "emo" so seriously. People can be whatever they want to be. Look like whatever they want to. Listen to what ever type of music they like.
    It's always the war against emo.
    Why is it never against punks, goths or chavs?

    And regarding the My Chemical Romance issue, yes most of their fans are emo, but that doesnt mean the band are! They are just a great band who write songs about things that have happened or affected them in their lives.
    What's wrong with that?!

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  92. At 01:14 PM on 20 Oct 2006, haz wrote:

    emo rule

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  93. At 01:16 PM on 20 Oct 2006, old duffa wrote:

    what on earth does EMO stand for.

    Bloody kids!

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  94. At 01:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Johnny wrote:

    http://www.fourfa.com/

    Please learn what 'emo' is before starting a debate on it, Radio 1.

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  95. At 01:40 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Lucy wrote:

    Exactly. That word should be banned. Nobody knows what it is really. Too over used.

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  96. At 01:56 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Adam wrote:

    Yet another attempt to create a sterotype based on very little fact and plenty of supposition and downright incorrect information. I'm 37, a fan of My Chemical Romance, Green, Day, FFaF. My first big musical influences were The Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, so where on earth do i fit in?

    My first exposure to My Chemical Romance was the song I'm Not OK and it came to me in a point in life where I wasnt OK ( I Promise). This song was one of the things that encouraged me to acknowldge my problems, to speak out and take steps to get things done. Far from self harming, it was my self help anthem, along with the Killers Mr Brightside.

    IMO this kind of article does little for the credibility of the author or the publication that printed it.

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  97. At 01:56 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sarah wrote:

    I am pro EMO!!! I am especially a fan of MCR. I think that EMO does bring people closer together especially at EMO gigs, it makes people feel happier in my opinion. My sister and I are both EMO fans and always play some EMO whilst getting ready for a night out as it cheers us up - we can't help belting out the tunes and dancing around like a couple of mad heads!

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  98. At 02:00 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Keviano07 wrote:

    Im not emo, but love the music. my hair n clothes arent in any way influenced by bands like My Chemical Romance or Lostprophets. Emo is here to stay. Get used to it.

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  99. At 02:05 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Kenny wrote:

    The Daily Mail article is brilliant. I love reading this nonsense; makes me glad to live in this country. With moral guardians like this to keep me and mine out of harm's way I can look forward to a long and happy life of knitting patterns and nice cups of tea.
    Personally I don't like the label Emo, don't much like the label grunge, punk, grime...actually I don't much like labels of any description. Music is music and if you like it then who's to say whether you're wrong or not? It strikes me that this is another part of the long running saga of whether media can ever be held responsible for the actions of individuals. I guess that you could argue that hip-hop is far more dangerous than "emo" seeing as how it's violence against others that is being advocated rather than (alleged) violence against self.
    We seem to hear a lot about people's "rights" these days. Certainly a lot more than we did maybe ten years ago. What we don't hear as much about though are our responsibilities. It's all about personal resonsibility. You want to start blaming music for the actions of individuals? Rubbish, let them look in a mirror first.

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  100. At 02:13 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Josie wrote:

    The thing that seriously irritates me, and reminds us of the daily mail's marvellous sensationialism, is the use of the extreme consequences of being "emo"- that being the "self harming" element of it- and them reporting it as the ONLY consequence of being emo...

    As the paper correctly states (and that being one of the few things that is correct) emo is short for emotional, however, as usual, and with that delightful hint of melancholy, extremism and somewhat trademark forgetting of detail: sad/ depressed/ angry (what we basically see as negative emotions) are not the only emotions out there.

    A person slitting their wrists is not dictated by the clothes they wear. The emotions they feel are not going to disappear if they don a yellow t-shirt and listen to whatever cheery artists have been churned out this week.

    The attack on 'emo' music- though (I must admit) some is depressing, though so are other genres of music) is meerly musicians and their audience expressing emotions and unfortunately not all of those are happy or "positive"... but they are emotions nonetheless...

    As a 15 year old (not an emo) female, I see it as an insult to all teenagers as they proclaim how fickle and obselete we are... how we will change as soon as the magazines do... and how we have no rhyme or reason for our own expression (no matter what form it is). In the daily mail's usual patronising passive "voice of reason" we are told what we are, what we shouldn't be, and why...

    let me, and everyone else, be ourselves... and don't complain when you don't agree...

    the goths, the punks, the chavs... etc... are the mods, rockers, rude-boys etc and the older generation look back on this with a fond nostalgia... as my generation will in years to come!

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  101. At 02:19 PM on 20 Oct 2006, em wrote:

    its all nonsense. music is music. what you like is your own personal choice.

    people have been singing about broken relationships and not feeling like they "belong" for decades.

    MCR, Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard etc etc are just rock bands that have been lumped into this "genre" Like Nu-Metal before it - the bands who are great will survive (deftones) and the bands that arent will disappear (limp bizkit).

    MCR and Taking back sunday are both on their 3rd albums. Which to me, denotes that they have staying power and continue to grow and grow - not only in the excellence of their music, but their fan base grows with them

    I'd rather the youth of today be listening to challenging - intelligent music rather than the pop crap that is being churned out by the Xfactor/ Pop idol wannabees.

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  102. At 02:21 PM on 20 Oct 2006, sara wrote:

    swell to ne honest this whole labeling people really annoys me. its what starts bullying and things. people say they want all this lavleing and what not to stop, yet you see these people saying ' gothic or emo' people can choose what they wear and how they wear it, its up to an individual to choose the type of musaic they like, it shows individuality. i totally disagree with people stereotyping, even when, to be honest, i doubt theyve met 'emo' people. they all dont want to slit their wrists and kill themselves, its what they want to look like. just leave them alone!

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  103. At 02:25 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Cat Marie wrote:

    EMO is for depressed teans who need something to cry to

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  104. At 02:25 PM on 20 Oct 2006, George Bush wrote:

    EMO'S or EMU's (I have noticed someone else used the emu word so big up yourself!) are just another fad and a way for people to get attention, so just shut and grow up ya losers!

    Put on Led Zeppelin and get some real music into your ears, be happy and do something with your life, you may have to cut your crap hair so the music doesnt get blocked by all the hair and girly products your using in it.

    P.s. Vote Bush!

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  105. At 02:36 PM on 20 Oct 2006, AdaM Pie wrote:

    emo was a movement that was started many years ago and has very little to do with the stereotypical image of emo today.bands and people get labelled emo because of their looks and the bands get labelled because they have emotive lyrics and a very specific sound.in my view if it makes people happy and brings people together its only a positive thing,people just want to condem it because as with every movement there are people who disagree.im 20 now and love it

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  106. At 02:37 PM on 20 Oct 2006, alex wrote:

    most emos dont harm themselves a;ot of people dress like emos but dont slit their wrists i meen i dress like one listen to the music and i dont cut my self. people from other stero types cut themselfs its just people who are a bit deppresed and need help

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  107. At 02:40 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Claire wrote:

    Men look ridiculous in skinny jeans. Emo girls and boys look the same! Not my cup of tea at all. Emo men look ill and need some meat on there bones. Not a good look.

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  108. At 02:42 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Troy short wrote:

    NUFFIN RONG WID EMO'S BUT DERIS SUMTHIN RONG WID CHAVS STEREOTYPIN EMO'S JUS CUZ DEY GOT NUFFIN ESLE 2 DO EXCEPT GET DRUNK EVERYNYT

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  109. At 02:42 PM on 20 Oct 2006, sammie wrote:

    Hiya... just wanted to say.. I didn't think "emo" bands got in the "poppish" chart nowadays and MCR aren't that emo anyways!!! I xxxxxsammiexxxxx

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  110. At 02:43 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Hayleyy wrote:

    Im only 14 but in th last year ive noticed 'emo' is becoming some stereotypical name for anyone who likes bands like fallout boy, panic at th disco, my chemical romance etc. && who dresses, well as i see is individual =S A few of my friends see people walk by n make comments about them bein so called 'emo'.I dont see why we have categories for people, just because they dont dress like everyone else..I dont think its fair to put a stereotype on people by th clothes they wear or the music they like.

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  111. At 02:47 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Charlotte wrote:

    In the daily mail article they mention Green Day thus showing them up for the half witted hacks they are

    clearly they know nothing about very much at all.

    The emo debate has been raging in the rock world for sometime now, in fact its been going on so long the generally accepted defination of emo has changed about three times...does anybody remember jimmy eat world they were supposed to be emo

    And Dashboard Confessional was once the poster bosy of emo and he looks and sounds nothing like MCR

    the problem is an age old one - anytime music is sub - categorized people will argue over who fits into what box! Personaly I would argue music comes in 2 categories good and bad and only you can determine for yourself if any particualr band falls in eiether category

    As for MCR causing kids to self harm, this makes no more sense than blaming Metallica for the WM3 or Marliyn Manson being to blame for Columbine

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  112. At 02:49 PM on 20 Oct 2006, sammie wrote:

    "Although the look is similar, the point of distinction, frightening for schools and parents, is a celebration of self harm"

    this is worrying even that I am a teenager that children and teenagers shouldn't be at risk to self harm because of a "trend"
    xxxsammiexxx

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  113. At 02:57 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Matt wrote:

    i think this is a problem that has been blamed on 'emo' just the same that the drugs culture was blamed on the rocker's a few years back i know a high amount of young girls harming themselves none of them being emo, and none of them looking to show off thier scars they are more likley to hide them and be embarissed i think classing bands like green day as emo is completly and utterly disturbing they have been around for years and right good songs... now you get a band like trivium or Funeral For a Freind those arew emo bands but if thats what people want to listen to thats up to them but this is just another phase just like the rockers and the skaters we have all changed our appearance once and to judge people on that would take us back a few hundred years. emo is just another spin off of a small percentage of the rock community just like punks.

    i used to be a skater and the more things came up in the news or debates like this one, it drives you more into thinking people are judging us and thinking we are scum of the earth so the more the Daily Express do this the more they are going to annoy these people just leave them be every one is and individual and no one is normal because you can't define normal so leave these kids alone

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  114. At 02:58 PM on 20 Oct 2006, haggis wrote:

    i hate emos. i really do, they smell, they have girsl hair and are really random people i wish they were all dead lol !!! oh and they also play crap music lol

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  115. At 03:04 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Rosa wrote:

    oh please....

    get over it.....emo's just a phase.....like leg warmers and shell suits (although im not sure if they ever went out!!!)

    its just a fashion and a fad....some people are into it and others aren't.

    i wouldnt call myself emo. but on the odd day i do fancy a pair of skinny black jeans and my thick rim glasses and a bit of fringe over my face ! thats just what i fancy !

    does it eve matter what genre MCR are in...or anybody for that matter !!!
    Musicians and bands alike should be able to create records simply because they sound good, not because of the genre they fit into !

    i love a bit of MCR myself :-D

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  116. At 03:06 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Claire wrote:

    It's an article by the daily mail - nothing they write is worth reading.

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  117. At 03:10 PM on 20 Oct 2006, katy from keele wrote:

    that woman knows NOTHING about emo, she obviously overheard some teenagers talking, paraphrased wildly, then decided to call a lot of people goths, slag off the music and accuse people of self harming.

    (not that i'd expect too much else from a newspaper that bases all its news stories on fear of change/the country/people who might threaten the stability of the country!)

    i get called emo because i like dashboard confessional, panic! at the disco, MCR, paramore, bright eyes etc etc (not that i don't like a lot of other music, inc pop, rnb, indie, rock) and wear converse with my black leggings, denim skirt a tight t. does it matter? no. do i do it for attention? no, nor do i get any!

    that journalist needs to get her facts right, and not generalise. and to those who keep going on about it being a fad, people change, styles come and go. get over it.

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  118. At 03:24 PM on 20 Oct 2006, katherine wrote:

    just because people happen to like a certain clothing style or a certain type of music what was classed as 'emo' music does not make then 'emo' automatically, I like loads of different bands, some of them happen to be in the scremo/emo genre, but I do not class myself as emo. I think it is another stupid stereotype that people have come up with in order to generalise teenagers yet again, just like the 'chav' , 'goth' , 'trendy' , 'townie' , 'gangsta' , 'geek' , 'swot' etc etc.. its not a new thing so I dont know why the media are drawing attention to it and 'warning' the public about this new 'cult' for one thing I think if parents were genuinely bothered if their kids were unhappy then the kids wouldnt BE unhappy in the first place and would have no reason to self harm. It is nothing to do with a cult status in how people dress or what music they listen to!
    I think this whole thing is so stupid and shouldnt have been published in the first place.

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  119. At 03:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Ania (Poland) wrote:

    Yesterday I was wearing a black/white striped t-shirt and a pair of mere jeans. Entering my school's front door I've heard: " Ania! You are an EMO too!.I stood speechless with my mouth opened. Is it normal for you people that you have to watch out what you are putting on because you may look like EMO?! You also can't listen to MCR because you'll be regarded as an EMO KID. I personally listen to MetallicA for over three years now and I'm not going to change it anyway(whatever is fashionable).
    HEY YOU! "EMO LIKE"KIDS!
    If someone is wearing a pink/black striped shirt it doesn't have to mean that he is EMO or kinda like. Stop moaning at those poor people! Please!
    Leave us alone!

    Ania

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  120. At 03:32 PM on 20 Oct 2006, apple wrote:

    i hate the way peopel stereotype type someone by the way they dress and by how the look, its ridiculous.
    just because someone wears skinny jeans and has black hair and has a fringe, they sterotype them as a emo. how can you label someone and you dont even know them. its society today that makes peoples put people onto genres or into some type of "group".
    why should you can how someone dresses and what type of music they're into, i mean everyones different and not everyone has to be exactly the same, it make the world we live in a very boring place.

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  121. At 03:32 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Holly wrote:

    i support proplr who are emos but emo isnt about being a clone its about being who you are and what you wnat to be emos arnt all succidal and musnt b put down and the 'sterotype' is so wrong!!

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  122. At 03:40 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Lauren Bunney wrote:

    What's the big problem with emos? They're better than chavs so stop complaining.

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  123. At 03:55 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Judy wrote:

    I am 15 and i am totally on the emo side, i mean i am an emo! i can't see why people are so stupid about it. SO WHAT WERE EMOS?! Emo music totally rocks. i think when people see something diffrent the push it away instead of trying to understand it, and i really do think its just making us closer together.

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  124. At 03:55 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sean wrote:

    My chemical romance are NOT EMO. They're just plain rubbish.

    Bands such as bullet for my valentine are EMO. Which are also rubbish.

    I run a website called MORBID BEAUTIES and we have all sorts of members, over 16,000 to be specific. We have EMO's, metal heads, goths, punks, cyber-goths and so on.

    Getting back to EMO music, the only reason it's called EMO is because of the style of the band, and by this I mean their looks.

    I mean come on, my chemical romance could be compared to HIM, and they are not EMO. Also as said before, below, MCR are not metal, and it sucks that they can get away with it....I mean what happened to likes of children of bodom, they are metal, not MCR.

    Its all about the scene to be honest, for example....If you saw a guy or girl walking down the highstreet wearing drain pipe jeans, a tight top, a real thin scarf (not to keep them warm) and hair that reminds you of a skunk, you can almost gurantee that they like bands such as bullet for my valentine and MCR etc.

    These may be strong assumptions but most of the time its a correct one.

    As for EMO kids in general, they are harmnless, just the same as the rest of the alternative culture. We are peaceful, and just wanna have a good time. People who say they hate EMO's mostly refer to the style and genre, and the look. Its kinda of the same with Chavs, every alternative person hates chavs and few alternative people hate EMO's.

    Its neither here nor there, most of it is down to group leadership, and by this I mean an influential friend of a group of friends influencing others around them to have their opinions. Silly really.

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  125. At 03:56 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Judy wrote:

    MCR are emo so i have no idea what any of these people are talking about!

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  126. At 04:02 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Issa wrote:

    Just read that Mail article... I can't believe it was actually published. It was not journalism... just a list of opinions!

    Although I believe that the original meaning of 'emo' is has been completely lost, and I am not particularly a fan of what is called 'emo', I think the generalisations and stereotyping used by some people, including the author of that article, is grossly unfair and untrue. Not all emos self harm. But then you could say the same with a lot of things - not all young guys in hoodies are about to mug you either!

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  127. At 04:04 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Robin Lorimer wrote:

    I am always mistaken for an emo cuz I love the music and Im always called a freak so I say STOP STEROTYPING just because they are different and like a different genre of music. Music was made to bring people together not to push people apart!!

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  128. At 04:06 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Marco wrote:

    Emo is the epitomy of what is wrong with music in the United States. It is formulaic and exploits the delusional deppressions of teens whose selfishly think they are the only ones to have such feelings at their age. In the U.S., corporate radio mostly plays emo, which is unfortunate because, as your side of the ocean has noticed, our country is producing some great music these days. Unfortunately we have to listen to underground stations, or radio stations abroad, to be exposed to it. Thank God for the Internet!!! Emo is a formula that companies exploit to make money. Plain and simple.

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  129. At 04:13 PM on 20 Oct 2006, dom wrote:

    people call me emo for loving music by my chemical romance funeral for a friend, panic! at the disco, the zico chain, hawthorn heights and thursday, having black hair and wearing dark clothes. Emo's don't have it hard its just emo's don't go around and try and be superficial in material objects. we all know that everyone has it hard and we are not out to say we have it the worst. all we are doing is being ourselves and we are just open about the sad things in life such as death, breakups, and other bad times. what the "emo" music does is offers comfort to everyone to let you know that you are not going through bad times alone and that others have been there and come out the other side. yes there is a massive growth in emo's but emo's have been around for years, its just the fact that no-one has bothered opening their eyes to see them but as soon as MCR hit number 1 its suddenly becomes a talking point?! I agree with Christopher Rhodes and think that emo's are better to see than chavs, emos won't bash an old ladys head in just for the 5quid in her purse. so hows about leaving emo kids be? what have they done to deserve such bad publicity as the article in the mail?

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  130. At 04:15 PM on 20 Oct 2006, jay wrote:

    I Have just replied to that ridiculous article in the Mail.
    I am 25 and a professional designer. I lead a healthy active lifestyle and my friends do too.
    I have been listening to 'emo' for about 10 years, since before it had a name, and other genres like post/hardcore/punk etc and some darker stuff too.

    Most of my friends have similar taste and some choose to wear black, eyeliner etc. NONE of us have ever self harmed and this article is a pathetic attempt to generalise a music culture into a group of mentally unstable people. Quite pathetic indeed.

    How you dress and your music tastes are two of the most readily availible ways of expressing your feelings, if these feelings are accompanied by the desire to self harm, this problem is in the mind and is most probably CAUSED by the parents. Its an outrageous thing to say:

    "Although the look is similar, the point of distinction, frightening for schools and parents, is a celebration of self harm."

    It makes angry almost but i can't be bothered to be as its such a childish and weak arguement/article.

    The author needs to grow up and concentrate on helping those with problems, not blaming the music people listen to.

    Regards Jay (Devon)

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  131. At 04:17 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Alana wrote:

    Basically, any emo kids that I know, constantly whine, bitch, and moan about life, so this emo scene thats peaking at the moment is like "Music to kill yourself to". Life is depressing enough, without having to listen to some random squeal about how crap their life is, while getting paid a fortune for the privilage...
    Enough said....

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  132. At 04:18 PM on 20 Oct 2006, tom wrote:

    whoevr writes stuff bout emos don't know what they are on about!!!!!!!!!!
    the roc kand their music(being and emo myself)
    g oall us emos!!!!
    ............................................................................. and rock on Kerrang

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  133. At 04:19 PM on 20 Oct 2006, becky wrote:

    emos are all boring and constantly sad they all look the same with the same style hair and the girls look like boys and boys look like girls.
    they all have a negative attitude to life and is depressing to be around.

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  134. At 04:27 PM on 20 Oct 2006, matt mallon wrote:

    ewwwww emos... yuck!lol! normo's al d way!!!!!

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  135. At 04:33 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sam + simon wrote:

    oh dear, another example of bad journalism
    the daily mail, (britain's favourite fascist newspaper) has YET AGAIN picked on the minority.
    let me ask how may emos harm other people?
    how many jouralists can write better music?
    the comments were immature and the nessarcery goverment forces SHOULD be informed
    absolute digrace--------------------------------------sam+simon

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  136. At 04:34 PM on 20 Oct 2006, carl wrote:

    look MCR have even said they're not emo. it's just idiots who dont know what they're talking about labelling bands to look cool. i like MCR's new song but i don't like any of their other stuff and it's the same with a lot of other bands. good music is good music and if you limit yourself to one genre youre missing out.

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  137. At 04:39 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    Emo bands are all rubbish, there depressing and have turned alot of normal people into sad people.

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  138. At 04:46 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Mark Caudell wrote:

    Emo is just a phase that a certain age group go through i.e. teens. 90% of people that are into music reach the end of the their teens and have by that point been exposed so much more life experience and a million more one or two album bands that they move on. There's no way that these emo kids can be dressing and acting the way they do by the time they hit 20, there's too many other influences around that you can easily avoid living with your parents and socialising in certain groups.

    Scene kids/emo kids are one in the same. Whatever's fashionable in a certain peer group is what they're going to listen to. I did, my friends did it, everyone does it. So for me there's no debate, it's a phase that will grow as old as the length of the teenage attention span.

    Personally, at the ripe old age of 26 I can say that I like some of the music that's genred as Emo. It's not the music that I dislike, it's the attitude of the teenage listeners that go with it.

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  139. At 05:02 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Harrie wrote:

    It really annoys me that people who appear to be "emo" are getting such a rough ride at the minute. A couple of years ago I went through a very low patch for what most of my peers saw as no reason and so they bullied and isolated me for it.

    I used to wear dark clothes and seemed to hide away purely to stop being noticed.

    If this had happend now I would probably be labelled an "emo", all this would have done would be to isolate me more and then perhaps, yes I might have ended up self harming.

    Bullying people because they are different in any way is totally wrong. Getting at 'emos' is no different to getting at a Muslim kid because they have different traditions. Perhaps if these people really are so emotional we should be trying to help them rather than bullying them.

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  140. At 05:15 PM on 20 Oct 2006, beef flaps wrote:

    Who cares. Walking around seeing the sad sheep of goths...emo kids...skids...thinking and acting as though the weight of the world is beating on them...it's just recycled genres and subcultures of past decades.

    It's nothing new nor individualistic. It's a sign of procrastination in musical ideas and lack of talent in our society. So why bother even discussing it or listening to it?

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  141. At 05:15 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Katie wrote:

    I'm all for people being different. Isn't that the whole point? Just because people are wearing skinny fit jeans, tight tops and neck scarfs doesn't mean that they automatically self harm and read poetry. I don't think that we can automatically stereotype people into the emo group just because of the clothes they wear and the music they listen to.

    My chemical Romance (MCR) Are not emo although the lyrics to songs on the new album are deeper; they actually mean something to the people that read them. Emo-Pop-rock type music is HUGE in America, so why should people have such a prejudice of it here in Britain? These songs are great. Songs such as 'I'm Not Okay' from MCR's previous album is full of guitar, and is an awesome song just to listen to and turn right up.

    How many of you out there watch the X Factor? Eten Road's Lead singer, Anthony, Is different and people love him! He stands out from the rest and although he wears skinny fit jeans, celtic crosses, tight tops and has black hair does this make him Emo?

    I think Emo is being looked into far too much. Modern day goths/chavs/townies don't seem to recieve this much attention. Not all Emo's harm, they dress differnently and if they want to experiment with poetry and meaningful lyrics who are we to stop them?

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  142. At 05:22 PM on 20 Oct 2006, claire wrote:

    i dont like emos, i was once friends with one, but when she became an emo she dissed who i am and who i like, so i dont like her anymore. she thinks that she is super important because she is an emo, and boasts to all of her friends she cuts her wrists? but why? i belive you only have one life on this earth, so why cut yourself, or commit suicide, or go around saying you are depressed, if that's the case? why do they want to die in the first place? i think im taking this too seriously, and if i am, can an emo PLEASE explain WHY they are like this?

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  143. At 05:53 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sean wrote:

    Quoting ''matt''

    all emos are pathetic and look like weird little idiots wearing all cheap black clothes!!! chavs rule!

    --------------------

    EMO's don't usually wear '''cheap black clothes'''.

    This is another AMAZING example of how dumb a chav is....Not only was it off-topic, but a completely un substantiated claim.

    laff.

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  144. At 06:14 PM on 20 Oct 2006, sean wrote:

    There's nothing wrong with EMO music. I'm not it's biggest fan but i quite enjoy that MCR tune. I think the real problem is EMO kids thinking that they have to go that extra step to fit in with the scene. They wear black clothes in the middle of summer and think it is a crime to crack a smile. What really worries me is the association with self harming,which cant be ignored. Why cant they just enjoy the music?

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  145. At 06:17 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Louise McCabe wrote:

    I'm not a of emo music and can appreciate this huge debate.

    I think everyone should be entitled to there own taste in music and kids should not be given a hard time...even if there tast in music is mince.

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  146. At 06:20 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Amy wrote:

    Well, being a teenager, this is the way I see it: there are (and I know this is a huge generalisation) two main types of kids in terms of style; emos and preps.

    Both have their good and bad points, but to be honest Im sure people would criticise my generation even more than they do now if we were all preppily dressed, shallow and materialistic.

    Emos rebel against this, and I think people should stop criticising them for having some emotional integrity, even if some do take it to extremes. Not all emos are depressed weirdos, the majority that I know are the people who go out most weekends and have a good time at gigs and parties.

    In terms of the media, I think my generation is extremely unfiarly treated:
    we listen to "emo" music, we are criticised
    we are told we dont have any manners, we are criticised
    we pass exams that are apparently too "easy", and we are criticised.

    I would appreciate it if older generations would take a long hard look at themselves before they criticise teenagers in future:
    they were not perfect when they were our age, and they hardly are now.

    Just look at the hash made of Iraq and the state of young children being brought up by parents too busy to kiss their children goodnight.

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  147. At 06:26 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Fran wrote:

    How many Emos does it take to change a light bulb?

    None- they all just sit in the dark and cry.

    Fran Danczak, 13

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  148. At 06:28 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    Anyone that took the time to listen to MCR or Panic!... and knew anything about the history of american indie would know that these bands are NOT 'emo'.

    'emo' = 'emotional hardcore'

    i'm not even going to begin to write a summary of hardcore, there's a film out soon. i suggest ill informed Daily Mail journos check it out.

    MCR are a very good guitar pop band. their fans love them. what else matters, exactly?

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  149. At 06:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Daniella wrote:

    I've always liked MCR, from day one i listened to every word they sang...never once have i considered committing suicide or self harming in any way. It's not the music you listen to that makes you self harm, it's how you feel.
    And the emo craze at the moment, it'll be over in a couple of months, and it'll be something else that the daily mail is criticizing, and those who are truly emo will be left to carry on as they always have and will be forgotten about.
    I don't think there are so many people that are that stupid to self harm just because it's the 'in thing', it's only because it's been in the media recently that it has been bought to light just how many people who have serious problems are self harming.

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  150. At 06:33 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jack wrote:

    Its not that i hate the style of music its just there whinning american accents that i cant stand and its even worse when u get an engish or welsh band trying to sing like an american..there is no need what so ever we are english...PEACE

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  151. At 06:41 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Holly wrote:

    My friends call me an emo 'cause i like bands like MCR, Bullet for my velntine, trivium and Aiden. i don't mind, i take it as a complement. So i dress in balck, i like certain muisc, i have an individual attidude.. I don't get hassle for it, i get respect.

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  152. At 06:42 PM on 20 Oct 2006, dave chapple wrote:

    Thogh i am a massive fan of MCR I was kinda shocked that Welcome To The Black Parade got to number 1

    I love EMO music and i would class myself as one but i am also a born again christian and i do not go around slitting my wrists and feeling sorry for myself my best friend is exactly the same as me in this respect and shes the happiest most smiley person i know i dont think ive ever seen her without a smile on her face.

    We are not what people think they see one or two people who are "emo" looking depressed and they suddenly stereotype.

    And the rumour that MCR encourage self-harm and suicide is ridiclous. in fact at their shows Gerard Way actually says if you are depressed and suicidal yo must talk to someone you can trust who can help you because he knows what its like and its the worst feeling in the world.

    So to those people who bash emos try getting to know the person behind the fringe before you judge them because they may be jst like you. one of my best mates is semi-chav so it can be done

    We judge eachother of character and personality not fasion and musical taste

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  153. At 06:56 PM on 20 Oct 2006, neil wrote:

    EMO or not, `my chemical romances` black parade album is one of high quality and superb musical talent, a number one in the album charts will surely follow there single charts success

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  154. At 06:59 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Will wrote:

    The problem is these guys are obviously rly good at the instruments that they play its jst what they sing about. It can't be satisfying writing a song that shows that u are rly upset. It also isn't nice to hear yourself that these people are upset. I personally like indie rock so im a a little biased but i rly do hate emo with a passion. The new mcr album is a blend of noise and random shouting which words are inconceivable from. I rly hate it.

    Wx

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  155. At 07:01 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Hollie wrote:

    I am a sort of emo thing... I went to get my hair cut like an emo because i like the way there hair was and my hairdresser said like a what an elmo and i said no thats a character off of sesame street. But ever since then most people call me Emo, Elmo Or Punk Elmo... I must say I'm more of a punk than anything else but elmo is like a blonde haired punk who can wear what he/she wants and basically do what she wants... But as I'm only 12 then i kinda can't do what i want. But so far I'm the only elmo in the universe except my good old friend Elmo... off of sesame street. I love him lol. Anyway bye bye xxx PLEASE READ!

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  156. At 07:05 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Zoe wrote:

    MCR R NOT EMO ! ! !

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  157. At 07:34 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jack wrote:

    emos are just attention seakers as soon as their music becomes mainstream they will all just fade out and then find some other type of music that not many people like so the can get more attention.

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  158. At 07:46 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sprocket wrote:

    I hate Emo's and Emo music as why should you slit your wrists when your angry. It would make me even more angry. Their just stupid.

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  159. At 07:49 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Ben wrote:

    Who cares?

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  160. At 07:55 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris from Canada wrote:

    Another case of image before music. I'm not going to generalize here. Living in Canada, I have a hard time understanding why many people feel the need to conform to the image of a particular genre. I understand that teenage conformity may be somewhat genetic, but I think many people loose sight of what the music really is, regardless of genre. When I hear music that makes my foot tap or gets me emotional, I try not to get wraped up in whether or not I can enjoy it when I haven't conformed to the sterotypical image of that particular genre. For example, If people like Nine Inch Nails or the Cure, do they need to be goth? If they like Jay-Z or Eminem do they need to be more ghetto style? If I like Miles Davis or Charlie Parker do they need to be a heroine addicted jazz musician? If they like trance do I have to be an etarded candy kid? If they like Mozart do they have to be a rich old snob? and if they like MCR or Panic at the Disco, do they need to be emo?
    Modern Western pop music only has 12 notes 12 keys and a whole lotta rhythm. Who cares how it looks or how you look. Enjoy it cause it appeals to you aurally.

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  161. At 08:13 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Rich Williamson wrote:

    What are they depressed about really!? Is it there hard, middle-class lives, or are they annoyed with their new iPod nano which daddy just bought them! Wear what you want and be who you want to be but they should out things into perspective. Although some probably have serious problems most are just jumping on the bandwagon and unecessarily moaning about their difficult lives to fit in with the other "depressed" EMOs!! My friend spent the summer in Africa doing charity work and explained to me how truly hard life is for them, they've got real problems.

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  162. At 08:17 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Carys wrote:

    im an emo n im just fine im just a normal crazy fun loving teen just coz i like different music and clothes dnt mee im wierder den da rest of u it just meens im mor indavidual n have mi own sense of style xxxxxxxx

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  163. At 08:21 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Paddy wrote:

    I went through a very slight emo phase a couple of years ago and now the very idea of listening to "emotional rock", wearing converse and running round giggling, screaming and handing out hugs to all that I see makes me squirm inside. I would say the stereotype is ridiculous, as most "emos" don't want to kill themselves, depression often seems to be a thing adults (often parents) use as an excuse for their child not liking them. Depression is a serious matter and it really doesn't help to presume the person is a goth/emo and listens to heavy metal. A spide (chav) can be depressed.

    Despite my views on the emo stereotype, emos very often annoy me to no end. People who are friends with emos often feel pressurised to listen to a certain type of music, wear black and feel like outcasts. (Seems a good time to point out that if you are being an emo/goth to be different, don't you realise it's a massive craze?) Basically big groups of them in my hometown and near-by city take over whole areas, intimidate the OAPs (oh no!) and make the place look bad to any foreigners to our troubled country on a holiday.

    I suppose I haven't properly explained why this group of people annoy me so, but I have my reasons; it's just hard to pour your general hate and anger into a box of writing on a screen. (Just to add, some emos can be okay, to more-or-less contradict some of what I've said)

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  164. At 08:22 PM on 20 Oct 2006, nikki wrote:

    i dont get it most bands write stuff that means stuff to them so surely thats emotional so how come their not all called emo it is so confusing.

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  165. At 08:25 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Samantha Hopkins wrote:

    hey, my friends call me emo....i dress like emo's...i have hair like emo's...and i love emo music e.g. my chemical romance, but it doesn't mean i harm myself. i totally diasagree with what the daily mirror are saying. i thinks its ok for people to show how they feel inside, afterall it's surposed to be a free country.
    i hope this helps,

    luv ya xx xx

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  166. At 08:25 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Najah wrote:

    ARGGGGGGGHHHH!! There is no such thing as an "emo" or "emotional rock". It is simply a figment of imagination of every pathetic person who likes to label people in a certain way. Grow up. Your lame and pathetic and your probably troubled too. Its just like every other label in this world depicting people for the way they dress or how they apply make-up. GET OVER IT. Your not emo, your friends aint emo and your favorite band isnt either. So just crawl back into your little hole and stop pissing people off by targetting them.

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  167. At 08:28 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Sarah wrote:

    i think putting anybody into a stereotype is wrong .. why do we have all these different groups of people .. how can anybody be defined to one specific type.

    i listen to all kinds of music and dont describe my self as anything ... im just me!!

    but ... if someone wants to call themselves an EMO and put themselves into that category then thats their decision ... who can tell them what to be?

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  168. At 08:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Emily wrote:

    I love Emo things and i couldnt belive it when i read the artical in Kerrang! I love my chemical romance and i was so glad that they slaged off the daily mail. That woman was out of order about tell parents to watch out for the kids when they were a sort of style and listen to different music. I think you should be able do wear listen and do whatever you want without being put down and accused or taken the complete mick out of.

    Im so glad MCR are number 1 yay

    love Emily

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  169. At 08:40 PM on 20 Oct 2006, fox wrote:

    i think emos are gettin an a hard time for no real reason, its just a trend and i think most emos are stereotyped in the self harming image but i like the music and get called all sorts of things, but the music doesn't make me different to every1 else. so im portarayed to be somthing im not. :(

    p.s. keep playin M.C.R.

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  170. At 08:42 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    Emo is the worst thing to happen to music in a long time. They all know who they are, they all think that they're the only one who really "gets" emo, and that everyone ELSE is just a scene kid. They ALL have the warped idea of an "original" haircut by sweeping it over to one side. And yes, if you spike it up at the back you're still just the same as everyone else, you just look more like a girl.

    Emo kids tend to be narcissistic little kids that think its cool to be "deep". To sum up, emo is just metal with a pinch of 80's pop culture (mainly the haircuts). Get over it, and get rid of it already.

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  171. At 08:46 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Joe wrote:

    The views the daily mail demonstrated were grossly misinformed, and showed the nation the fear that teenagers can cause adults. The scaremongering this woman aimed for showed parents what she wanted them to know, and therefore caused even more stereotyping than was evident before. I personally think that her views were personal, and should not be published in a way to influence parents with lies like 'death pop!?!' And I don't think anyone would ever agree MCR were an emo band. It's like calling Westlife metal.

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  172. At 08:47 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Laura wrote:

    Emo is going to be popular with teenagers as it goes well with their muddled hormones and dramatic romantic lives....Every year, kids think that there is no way that anyone has ever had a life as intense and dramatic as theirs, life is so unfair, why go on, no-one understands, lalala.

    Most 'emo' is pretty boys in goth get up and make up singing what, essentially, are pop songs. It's the look that the kids like (and why not, it rocks).

    Yes. I am old. I was a goth over ten years ago. But, bizarrely, I too wore black nailvarnish, black lipstick, stripey jumpers, dyed my hair purple etc etc. I think it's pretty funny that the 'alternative' kids are so 'alternative' that they're wearing exactly the same get-up that all the other 'alternative kids' wear...

    It's something that you either grow out of, or at least broaden your horizons, but it's nice to have a defined identity when you're growing up and figuring out who you are. Sometimes you can relate to the lyrics of a song, and that's cool, but don't get too precious about it.

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  173. At 09:00 PM on 20 Oct 2006, emily wrote:

    emo was originally a genre of music, now it has turned into this big fashion style. i have nothing against 'emo's' i dont think they should get the abuse they are having to put up with. the only people i have a problem with is the people me and my friends call wemo's, wannabe emo's. they dye their hair black and cut themselves in attempt to fit the stereotypical requirements.
    i know plenty of real 'emo's' and they are all lovely people, my brother is an 'emo' and the nicest person in this world i think.
    i think that giving lables to someones style is so stoopid! but what i hate more is people getting grief over their chosen style! its pathetic!
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  174. At 09:19 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Ruby wrote:

    i hate the whole scene emo thing. you get loads of them in bournemouth, infact to me they are just the new version of chav.
    you go into H&M or somewhere like that, and the whols shop is emo. it's taking over. i don't have a problem with emos at all, it's just when they walk past you and come out with something along the lines of "oh my god, what a skank" i get that alot. just because i wear thick black eyeliner and my slayer hoody. they have to look down at you, like your something disgusting on the floor, so i cant help but turn round and hurl abuse back at them.
    they call themselves 'individuals' but theyre not, theyre just following a trend. they are the modern version of chavs. they cant exept people who dress diferently to them. to them, u either have to dress like a 'scene' or you just cant be in the 'gang' it's sad.
    i bet now, that as soon as emo goes out of fashion, all scene kids will dissaper, all because its not cool anymore. but the true emos out there will stick with their preferred dress sense, and only then will they stick back out like they used to, where they belong.

    but im with the whole anti mcr thing, call mcr metal, and i slap you!

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  175. At 09:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, danny james wrote:

    well in my school we debate about wether emos are over populating but the poeple in my school are stereotyped just by the way they look have have best friends that are i would say emo's but there great friends and if they want to wear dark coloured clothes then that is intieley up to them. i think mostley that poeple are scared of a a new fation or a trend but people only dont like them because they are not like them

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  176. At 09:33 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Thomas wrote:

    "Emo" is short for emotional. People dont seem to understand this. They do not cut their wrists and the article in the Daily Mail was incredibly inaccurate and i think the Daily Mail have used a serious issue such as self harm to produce a cheap shock story for parents to read. I find it incredibly irritating that recentlymost "emos" are just trying to be fashionable and are following an ever growing crowd and supporting bands such as MCR and Panic at the Disco. These bands are not emo bands and merely use "emo" as a way of gaining popularity. "Emo" bands are underground bands who most people would not have ever heard of. This recent influx of fake emo bands has irritated me and i would support a new label and use it constantly against fakes who follow the crowd. I have no prejudices against emos. I hate fakes and the people who label them.

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  177. At 09:37 PM on 20 Oct 2006, danny rose wrote:

    fair play all emos think normal looking poeple are chavs or either to fat to thin to ugly and they always moan and i listen to real hard rock which is so crap thats why is isnt on radio 1 which i a good radio station to listen to so ill slit my wrists type of stuff ....whats they point i no that they dont like to be like everyone else but normal is good instead of being different looking like a goth/emo/ugly/make up wearing turd they should be put in mental homes

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  178. At 09:38 PM on 20 Oct 2006, emma wrote:

    hey, i love emos and why? because they r hawt and my bf is emo and he is sexy the music is so leathal take my chemical romance as an example, there new song welcome to the black parade who in the world hates it, and emo's r jus people who like to put there emotions on display, thats my oppinion lol xx

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  179. At 09:48 PM on 20 Oct 2006, vicki wrote:

    emo is gr8, people are only afraid of what they dont understand

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  180. At 09:57 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Georgie wrote:

    Why is everyone being so stereotypical anyway!?! Why should people be judged on how they look or what music they listen to? If someone listens to a certain band it doesnt mean they have to be stereotyped! If you ask me, its good to be different, i couldnt care less if someone is a emo or whatever other stereotype!

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  181. At 10:05 PM on 20 Oct 2006, [amberlouise] wrote:

    no one knows the meaning of the word. people just say it to put peole in a group because of the music people listen to.

    its sad to think that so mayn people use the word because of the music we listen to and what we wear.
    its all sterotyping people and i think thats it wrong!

    there are more importent things out there than putting people into groups!

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  182. At 10:12 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Mark Fletcher wrote:

    I'm into pretty much any kind of music, be it metal, hip-hop electro or good old fashioned pop, but I'd rather be an "Emo" than a "chav" or one of the rising trend of "pretentious indie kids".

    MCR is being hailed as the new Greenday, being the next biggest band in the world, on the basis of one song. This 'rock opera' (cough, cough Greenday...), described by the press, is quite similar to "Helena' or "I'm not okay" in my opinion - yet people who like the new song, often seem to hate MCR's previous work. (By the way, I enjoy all of MCR's stuff from 'I Brought...' and onwards - emo music is very good to cycle along to in the gym!)

    It seems that the assosication of Greenday's 'American Idiot' video director and producer with MCR has changed them from emo into pop-emo, accepted only because of promotion and name dropping.

    Good luck to emos, they're usually nice people, and at least they're not the car-stealing, granny-mugging, tracksuit-wearing idiots that chavs often are !

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  183. At 10:24 PM on 20 Oct 2006, summer wrote:

    emos make me laugh. they think they listen to hardcore rock. My Chemical Romance is the complete antithesis of hardcore rock. It's just a fad. People where i live think, "ooh, because it's cool to be emo, i'll start listening to hardcore metal, like panic at the disco." i watch wannabe emos at my school; they start to smile, then realise it, then frown.

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  184. At 10:29 PM on 20 Oct 2006, beki wrote:

    i love MCR they r brill even tho every1 says there emo i dont care thay are wiked!!!!

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  185. At 10:31 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Emma FitzGerald wrote:

    I don't think kids who like Emo music are disliked and recieve bad press it's the 'Scenes' that give us bad press! People who just jump on the band-wagon of whats fashionable at the moment... Such as 'Indies' they are the worst for it. Those are the people who give Emo's a bad name. Their odd fashion sense and need to cry and write poetry every five seconds brings us down and has resorted in the joke:
    Q: 'How many Emos does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: 'None they all sit in the dark and cry.'
    We are not all that bad we just appreciate the emotional side of the music; the fact that is has depth and meaning, hence Emo... Emotional.....
    These 'Scenes' are the soo called bad press. They corrupt bands to become mainstream
    e.g. Greenday,
    Lostprophets,
    MCR,
    FFAF,
    Finch,
    18Visions.
    I bet half the people who have bought their newest albums don't even know any songs from their first album.
    This annoys me and so does people buying such t-shirts as Ramones/ Led Zepplin/ Rolling Stones/ New York Dolls t-shirts because their fashionable, not because they love that band and want to show their appreciation. I bet if you asked half the people wearing those t-shirts to name just five songs by that artist and atleast 2 albums they couldn't even do that....
    I enjoy and appreciate Emo music.. I liked bands such as Finch and FFAF before this stereotype began...... The media has the idea of Emo music all wrong saying bands like Fightstar and Fall Out Boy are Emo.... Get your facts right is what I have to say! What type of Emo in their right mind would support an ex busted!? I put it to you.
    Many thanks.
    XEmmaX

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  186. At 10:51 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Chris Birch wrote:

    Emo is stupid. just a fad! I hate it. Metal all the way. music isn't about what clothes and style you wear that just stupid! why wear what everyone else does? cut your hair the same way? very very boring

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  187. At 10:59 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Joe hutson wrote:

    when emo started out, like anything, it was a cult for a certain group of people who used the way they acted and dressed as a way to express themselves and the way they feel.

    i am 14 years old and Classified as "emo" but the thing is no1 really does quite understand the meaning of the whole thing, "kids" walk around in england now and people say oh yeah look there goes an emo and the kids love it well for a matter of fact these are the majority of people who will jump on the bandwagon when anything that is deemed as fashionable comes along.

    these people are not artistic or expressive and have probably never heard real "emo" music.

    there are all sorts of stereotypes about emo and pretty much every other "craze" but to be honest their all just people and you shouldn't judge a book by its cover,

    no matter how long their fringe is.


    p.s.

    mcr = green day


    i see no difference, do you?

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  188. At 11:01 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Rose wrote:

    EMO's just made me laugh so i can't diss them - although they are a bit wierd.

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  189. At 11:30 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Jenni wrote:

    I remeber when Emo first started to emerge as a genre 4 or 5 years ago and it was considered slower pop ounk with lyrics based on heartache and broken romances and I have considered myself 'emo' for some time, favouring bands like My Chemical Romance, green day, bright eyes and New Found Glory. Not once have I ever considered my life miserable or self harmed. I am very happy and fulfilled and feel that the sub culture of emo is getting a bad rap at the moment in much the same way as the goth culture associated with Marilyn Manson and the hip hop culture associated with Biggie and Tupac once did. the media is using them as scapegoats to blame all the ills of youth on, not considering major factors such as home environment. I feel it is beneficial to younger teenagers to feel part of a group, be it chavs, skaters, emo or what not in order to be part of a community. i would be more concerned if my child was not part of a unit and therefore would be very lonely, as high school can be a very lonely place at times, these are the children more likely to self harm, the ones who are not supported properly by friends and family units. and as for the skinny issue there are plenty of well round goths and i tip my hat to them!

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  190. At 11:55 PM on 20 Oct 2006, kev gayton wrote:

    who cares if its emo who cares if its metal who cares if its pop!!!

    If its a good song why give it a genre, if u like it then u like it n thats that!!!

    i don't go uugggg thats a pop band i dont like that song even if i do like it a bit???

    i couldn't give a funk if its metal, punk, emo, pop (even rap) if it appels 2 me n i like it i don't care what it is

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  191. At 11:58 PM on 20 Oct 2006, K wrote:

    The daily mails article was complete trash.Everyone should be entitled to be who they want to be,dress how they want to dress,hang with anyone they like and listen to whatever music they think is goood.No one has the right to critise anyone else over any of these things.As everyone is unique and we have to accept it.Even if they dont dress how You dress,or listen to your music,or hang with different people to you dosent make them bad people.Just get over it,and let everyone be themselves.Unless you have spoken to every single emo what right do you have to judge?None.

    Also read the daily telagraphs article on emos at

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/09/18/do1804.xml

    This is much better than what the daily mail printed.

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  192. At 11:59 PM on 20 Oct 2006, Nick wrote:

    I agree with jon, there are hardly any real emos.
    Most are just stupid little scene kids...almost how when you were a little kid you might want to be one of your heroes, kinda babyish really, i dont like scene kids, i dont like emos, sorry to be a whiner, i just felt it had to be said.

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  193. At 12:07 AM on 21 Oct 2006, chloe wrote:

    omg i think you shouldn't b so hard on kids my age who look the slightest emo. i mean what is a proper emo? i where skinny jeans nd i like mcr but i hav my natural hair colour nd i would never slit my rists so am i emo!!?

    i bet this so-called 'top class newspaper' The Daily Mail probrly havn't even met a emo!!! they r just finding somthing else 2 complian about teenagers. first it was chavs now is emo's wat next?
    i hav a question 4 all u people who only have a 1 sided view about teens. Didn't u have trend wen u were a teen?

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  194. At 12:33 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Ian wrote:

    Blah blah blah, these are the first kids to make music like this - rubbish.

    Kids were wearing dark clothes and being moody in the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. Mods, Punks, Goths, New Age, Grunge, Emo - It really is nothing new.

    Teenagers feel angst and no-one understands them - life sucks so get a helmet - It's just a ride.

    Fashions change and teens grow up to become the same people as their parents - cest la vie.

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  195. At 12:34 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Harrison wrote:

    i think its the bands, the music and the whole scene, placing everything into little sub genres and making it so competetive every little group tries to outdo each other, all this self harm, wearing black, its just a show.
    look at house music! now theres nothing like this sort of bravado, cliques or anything! everyones in it for the love! ok you may think im coming down harsh but its the way i feel about it, i understand that the media do blow little things out of proportion though, they have done with house culture before. so maybe i AM wrong and its just to be ignored!

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  196. At 01:02 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Matt wrote:

    Just reading through the comments and I cant believe somebody called the Daily Mail a top class newspaper! hahahaha!

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  197. At 01:21 AM on 21 Oct 2006, adam wrote:

    EMO is cool and im not even emo...yet....but i can change!! i what the hair!
    hey if u wanna be like it so god-dam what. i love emo music like MCR, the get up kids and britney spears. its gr8 to carm down n listen to themafter a long day but bugger what i think this is just words be what u wanna be n do what u want.....

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  198. At 01:25 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Sarah wrote:

    I don't know why people have a problem with emo's, me and my friend like emo music and are proud of it! There is nothing wrong with it. Emo is short for emotional, and I think people who don't like to show their emotions are the ones that have problems with emo's, or they just want to pick at people who they think are different from them (in this case emo's).

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  199. At 02:14 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    My main problem with so called Emo music is that it is just formulaic poppy rubbish manufactured by record companies to appeal to the masses. My other problem is that you now hear it EVERYWHERE and that as far as most people are concerned, if you don't like it you aren't 'cool', dispite the fact that these people all dress exactly the same and all have the same hairstyle. Apparently it isn't 'cool' to be able to see out of both eyes anymore.

    Thanks, but I will risk my coolness in favour of music with a bit more substance and the ability of depth perception please.

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  200. At 03:05 AM on 21 Oct 2006, January wrote:

    I think that the society tries to put everyone into a stereotype to help them understand things they do not. In reality, all this does is make things more confusing. I HATE stereotypes. No two people are the same so why should we try to categorise them? You cannot define a person with a stereotype. There are kids out there who harm themselves because they are genuinely hurting inside, not for attention and not because of fashion. I am sure that there are some do it because they think its "EMO" but surely by the daily mail stating that it is EMO to cut yourself they are encouraging those that are of impressionable mind to do this also in order to keep up with fashion?

    I live in Leeds and there has been a gang hanging around the corn exchange in the city centre for years now I haven't asked them but i assume they would call themselves EMO, they all wear similar dark clothing, but I have no idea what music they are into. A while back, apparently one of them killed themselves outside the corn exchange whilst shoppers were going in and out! Its tragic, but because of the stereotype they have attached, nobody seemed surprised and from the circumstances it would appear it was done in the name of being EMO! Its appalling, but how do you stop society boxing people into all sorts of stereotypes? You cant! (rant over!)

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  201. At 06:42 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Rebekah wrote:

    To be perfectly honest, I've stopped caring about what people think. I know the one label that fits me: human being.

    Yeah, I used to like dressing in black and being overdramatic. But then I grew out of it. Trust me, four or five years from now we'll all be going, "emo? what's emo?"

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  202. At 07:00 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Kitty wrote:

    Since when were Green Day emo?

    Just leave the kids alone. They're not doing anything to anyone, are they? They're not running around, attacking people and mugging them, so I see no need as to why people have to be so incredibly immature about this! That Daily Mail article was so overblown. It's the same "let's cause mass paranoia!" attitude that's really causing harm.

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  203. At 07:13 AM on 21 Oct 2006, pabolski wrote:

    I've not read all of these comments but basically you could wind the clock back 25 years and substitute the word goth for emo... ....everyone was saying the same about them - harmless stuff really and if emo kids enjoy the music and style - let them

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  204. At 08:45 AM on 21 Oct 2006, jen wrote:

    i think personally rock culture has changed alot over the last decade there are so many different styles of rock "emo kids" seem to be singled out because people who have liked classic bands for a long time see these styles eg emo rock getting brought into rock culture and good classic bands are being forgotten. emo is a group of screaming teenagers singing about things they havnt experienced, alot of there fans are kids and the males look very feminine its just lame but at the end of the day its there choice evenually they will grow out of it its more of a trend and they are fashion victims.

    peace out

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  205. At 08:58 AM on 21 Oct 2006, kiz wrote:

    mm......... mi bro says tht im an emo!!!
    an i love all Chemical Romance
    kiz
    xxx
    so im sidin with them

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  206. At 09:24 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Martin Harman wrote:

    Emo is just a tag, and shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm not an emo, but I know people who are, and they're not self-harmers or whatever. If someone does something like self-harm, its their choice, so why get involved. It's there personal reason, so why should the press get involved

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  207. At 09:48 AM on 21 Oct 2006, jess wrote:

    I get branded emo, but do not consider myself to be, although i listen to emo music. Emo is just another cult, a craze that some people will grow out of, and the originals won't. Some self-harm, but that's not because they have to to be emo, they would most likely do it if emo didn't exist. People should leave them alone, and stop giving it such a bad name. No one actually admits to being emo, because the phrase is turning into an insult. The media causes a lot of upset, but does bring them closer together. It seperates the people who are in it for the music, from the people who dress like it to be cool. MCR aren't even particularly emo, anyway. I love them, but originaly, emo is Sunny Day Real Estate, and, right now, Dashboard Confessional, who sings love songs! Hardly depressing. So, just leave emo's alone, they're not doing any harm, and people will get over it.

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  208. At 10:24 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Verity wrote:

    Firstly, what the hell is emo? Black hair and eyeliner? Many kids these days are like that. Natural or not. Does this make them self harmers? Does it hell. Also the vast majority of so-called "emo's" do not self harm. Okay i'll admit some do, but its not just "emo's" is it? You find many different style groups doing it, it's just not exaggerated as much as the emo culture is for some reason.
    I think it's absolutely disgraceful that the Daily Mail, a national paper i read nearly every day, sunk itself this low to sell papers. The story isn't even politically correct for god's sake. Green Day and MCR are bands playing they're own type of music, how do you define a emo band? They are good at what they do, how many people out there say they are in a international super-band? Hardly any. So it's unfair to label them unless they class themselves as emo, then fair enough to them.
    EMO now is fashion. It's not to do with the music anymore.
    What happened to the basic human right, freedom of expression?
    Leave the kids to it.
    Don't put anymore hassel onto them than they already get.

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  209. At 10:25 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Amanda wrote:

    I'm sometimes accused of being an emo and I don't think it's a bad thing. Most of my giid friends are emos/goths but they're not always crying and slitting their wrists. They have fun too, but maybe a different kind of fun from the plastics, chavs, townies etc.

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  210. At 10:33 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Aaron wrote:

    Why does everyone need to label themselves???
    Emo, scene, goth, metal, punk! Christ, listen to what you want you want, wear what you want, do what you want!

    The whole origin of ROCK, was to do what you like, not to label, be laid back and enjoy some amazing music.

    Seems to me that people have lost this sort of meaning, and have become focused on segregation,

    " i don't like you because your a emo kid, or your a goth!"

    Who cares, why can't people be open-minded!

    I like my baggy jeans, a t-shirt and my DC's, does not make me a indie kid! I like music across the board from Emo, Rock, metal, pop, indie, Soul etc!

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  211. At 10:41 AM on 21 Oct 2006, sarah h wrote:

    I think that the whole Emo thing is a glorified Goth. Its Goth in Technicolour!

    I was looking ebay the other day and foudn this lady who customises her clothing (emo styling) and her pics were sick... she had cut her self up so much all over her arms. it was gross. now she was advertising that fact that it was cool

    emos and this self harming, down trodden thing is absolutely no good for the kids. they bring on the hassle they get in most cases

    and they try desperately to be different but they all look the same! hee hee

    they think they are so hard done by... they should take a look at the real world... if they can afford their piercings and their hair dye they aint doing too bad! when you are struggling with the choice of food for the next 2 days or the phone bill... then they'll know! or see the realy world and the horrible things that are happening to people every day.

    As far as the music goes. I enjoy some of the music that these so called emos produce... its talent.. you can't hide it no matter how they look!! they are good, most of them. I probably wouldn't go out and buy an album or anything, but i can appreciate it.

    Thats me - Rant over.

    Enjoy who you are - but do't try to be something your are not - thats all i have to say...


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  212. At 10:54 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Emma Martin wrote:

    If i had to pick a side i would pick emo.
    after all in my experience they seem to be mroe passive then that of chavs roaming the streets
    i also love the unique style with skinny jeans, bold colours and pattern (espeically polkadots)
    i also like the music as it tends to be mroe tuneful then average metal and more lively than indie.
    everyone has their own opinion and thats mine.
    thanks

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  213. At 11:22 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Curtis wrote:

    Music should not be graded, if it sounds good and you enjoy it, dont worry what class of people its for. If people didnt grade music there would be less rivalrys between groups and people will get a long better. But you have to hang around with your groups nowadays. Basically peoples inmaturity about others likes and dislikes have to stop. 'Emo' music a lot of it is good, i like everything from Dance to Death Metal.

    The way it should be (Y)

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  214. At 11:40 AM on 21 Oct 2006, James wrote:

    Who draws the line between metal/rock and emo?
    Listening to BFMV in my car the other day and got tagged with being an 'Emo'.
    I didnt mind being branded but couldnt understand how someone came to this conclusion based on a band/song?
    So I'm guessing that listening to any mainstream rock suddenly makes you........yep you guessed it.

    who makes these decisions?

    kill switch For the win

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  215. At 11:41 AM on 21 Oct 2006, Kayleigh wrote:

    Everyone to their own thats what I say, leave the kids who like it to like it and stop fussing over it. Hardcore dance reminds me of neds but I don't moan about it because there are people who like it so I leave them to like it and listen to the music I want to listen to.

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  216. At 11:53 AM on 21 Oct 2006, hello wrote:

    i like this song, im not an emo

    i just like the song

    people are saying that just because you like emo music means your an emo

    this isnt true. i just like good music

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  217. At 12:27 PM on 21 Oct 2006, ryan wrote:

    Go back 5 years and eminem was scary, 5 years before that Oasis wanted to smash people up, 10 years before that there were subliminal verses in judas preist songs, 10 years before that black sabbath freaked people out and 20 years earlier Elvis "The pelvis" currupted the youth.
    Its all just a little bit of history repeating - just with a new name.

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  218. At 12:39 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Vicki wrote:

    I don't understand some of these people saying that emo is just kids who cry and cut themselves, most aren't ACTUALLY emo there just like 8 years old boys and girls who think if they listen to MCR it makes them emo. you know you put on a superman top have a side fringe thick rimmed glasses your all of a sudden emo, most are attention-seeking aswell. I get called emo at school, but thats because i used to be a little bit but then i thought whats the point in being all depressed to fit in with some sort of stereotype?
    It's pathetic.
    scene kids are better anyway :P

    =[ thas my view.

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  219. At 12:53 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Joe H wrote:

    this is ridiculous. i dont know what i am. im certainly not 'emo'. i dont think im a 'chav'. but i love MCR and Funeral For A Friend, i like all rock like Blink-182 and Lostprophets. does that make me an emo? if i listen to supposed emo music. i also like rap music and RnB. people stereotyping emos that they all cut themselves and walk around with a constant sad face obviously have never met an emo. i have to live with one, hes not like that, none of the people i know that are emo do that. this article was probably written by a middle aged woman who knows nothing about emo. and i think you should give me a medal for not swearing in this because it was hard.

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  220. At 12:54 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Will wrote:

    Im not sure how ppl can not call mcr emo!? They dress like emo's and sing songs about emotional stuff. And if you say that emo is emotional hardcore then they fit that as well cos its pretty hardcore stuff. At times i cldn't understand a word they were saying on their new album cos the guitar was so loud and "Hardcore" like. Jst admit it guys. MCR ARE EMO!!!!

    Wx

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  221. At 01:02 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Peachey wrote:

    Emo is the latest in a long line of ridiculous trends, its just yet another way for young people not to think for them selves. It could be that they are all trying so hard to be different they all end up the same. It seems that you are either expected to be miserable (emo) or go around mugging people (so called "hoodies")

    As for the music, I went to see Muse at T in the fringe, they were being supported by My Chemical Romance. It was the most horrifically bad hour of my life, especially when the singer said to the crowd

    "HELLO SCOTLAND, WE ARE ALL DEAD!"

    ...I men what the hell does that mean!

    And i just dont get why a man would want to ware womens trousers.

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  222. At 01:15 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Naomi wrote:

    I don't agree with this article. people who self-harm don't have to be "emo." Its not music that causes it, but stress or a deeper psychological issue. This is just another example of the media trying to rip open & mock teenage culture when there is no need. Wouldn't they rather teenagers listened to music & talked about it than roaming the streets causing problems?
    The term "emo" has also been taken out of context, I bet the writer of this article doesn't know the original connotations, since they've been changed by the media and others who don't like the genre to the point of charicature and ridicule.
    The bands that were part of the original post-harcore emo movement such as the get up kids, braid, brand new & the promise ring are all credible musicians who simply started to produce more acoustic, melodic music which went just as well with their lyrics as before.
    Fair enough MCR got to no. 1 if people liked their song, they're not emo, but seem to have changed to try & conform to it to secure a larger fanbase. Listen to their first album, its quite different, & amazingly underrated.

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  223. At 01:20 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Andy wrote:

    The judgemental views of certain press (ie, the Mail) and public figures infuriate me.... the only reason people refer to 'groupings' in society is to help them try to understand society in their own way.... but that doesn't make it right - it is judgemental and shows a lack of understanding about what is really going on.

    What is worse is that they very organisations and individials who have a responsibility in our society to report the facts, are the very people who are making sweeping statements and scaring uninformed people. I bet there are many Mail readers who took that article as fact and now believe exactly what was written, because they have nothing to tell them otherwise.

    I'm a musician and I also work with teenagers, and I see many different 'types' of young people - by 'type' I mean that they are interested in different styles of music and dress differently, but I don't see them as Emos, Chavs etc - they are all individuals and are all exploring their own tastes in music, fashion, relationships etc. They are just learning to express themselves.

    As a society we should be embracing different types of music and fashion, as this is free expression in a free society. All responsible adults should be encourging young people to do exactly the same - so that they can explore what they like and don't like without being misled by misguided judgements.

    Is there really an Emo war? Only if ignorant people want there to be one....

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  224. At 01:44 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Geeta wrote:

    I agree with Andy, he's thinking exactly what i think, the only difference is is that he can actually explain it. Go Andy! and everyone else who thinks grouping is a load of rubbish people use to understand society, when really all it does is complicate things. I'm only 13 so if this doesn't make sense i wouldn't worry! EMOs are not aliens, oh and the music rocks! I don't see why the world can't forget about social grouping and be happy! yay happiness!

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  225. At 01:49 PM on 21 Oct 2006, susie wrote:

    i absolutely hate emo music its boring and i dont think you can distiguish one 2 minute whine from the next its samey and the dress sense to go with it is frankly ridiculous we should be proud of our british music industry and not follow like blind sheep the minute the 'next big thing' from america comes along in a haze of skinny jeans and media hype

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  226. At 01:52 PM on 21 Oct 2006, emma wrote:

    I love people who are individual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .MCR ,fallout boy and lostprofets are sooooo not emo, "emo" is a pathetic stereotype and if i want to have a side fringe,thick make up and a superman tshirt it doesnt mean im a emo!!! but 2 all the emos out there keep rockin!!!

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  227. At 02:07 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Rory Miller wrote:

    The reason emos have been getting such a hard time is because of the original emo stereotype of wrist cutting, black eye liner wearing, everyone hates me emos. They destroyed the hope for nu-wave emos that aren't depressed but more scene.

    I'm not a fan of emo music as i feel, well its basically terrible.

    But music is expression of self so if someone wants to sing about how **** life is and how about everyone hates them, fine, go do that but don't expect it to sell.

    And as for MCR, Panic and Fall out, just why? Fair enough they like making music but why not make decent music?

    I heard a rumour that MCR may be supporting Muse on their upcoming tour, was not impressed!

    I don't want some emo band coming to Belfast and ruining my night, and if they do its going to take a lot of restraint not to through beer at them, realllllly don't want to have to get kicked out for doing the world some good!

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  228. At 02:08 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Jen wrote:

    'EMO' Is generaly a type of music, and people linking suicide and death's to it is well out of order. although we get the name from listning tot hat music and wearing yeah maybe abit of black but not EVERYTHING we wear is black. And if 'Daily Mail' went out into the streets i thinki they'd find that out for themselves. 'Daily Mail' also failed to put into place the different forms of being 'emo' e.g heartache and writing poetry containing their feelings.
    Nothing is the matter with 'Emo's' they wear what they want just the smae as chavs, skaters, goths and any other type of labelling. Labelling Emos with crying, suicide ect.ect.. is pure labelling. Just becuase we choose not to dress the same as other people and listen to a different music. We get pressurised from alot of people teling us to be someone who we arnt and the fact that the 'Daily Mail' is poisoning peoples minds with what they are saying is just going to make people have more of an opinion.

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  229. At 02:11 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Alex wrote:

    Thing is, these emo's are all fake, to be emo your supposed to be "depressed" so all these kids think self harming will make them look like they are depressed. You cant force depression on yourself which therefore shows that being an emo means you are a fake person and just trying to fit into a scene.

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  230. At 02:14 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Nick wrote:

    Bear in mind that "emo" is a bit older than most people think. It started as an offshoot of hardcore punk (emocore) in the late 70s/early 80s with bands like "Still Life" and "Rites of Spring" and has gotten progressively poppier and friendlier over the years. Bands like Dashboard Confessional, that people think if as being prototypical "EMO" bands, aren't really very emo at all...not in the way the term was originally used, anyway. ...not that there's anything wrong with Dashboard.

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  231. At 02:45 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Declan Murray wrote:

    hey i do not think its rite for you ro prejudice against ppl for what they look like, emos they are also people!!! am i described as an emo!!! and do not like it we shudnt belong to a group! we are like everyone else!!!

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  232. At 02:54 PM on 21 Oct 2006, me wrote:

    i wish my lawn was emo...so it would cut its self.

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  233. At 03:10 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Charles Devlin wrote:

    its all just becoming swings and roundabouts here.... as soon as a new style comes out that isn't considered "in" by the press and people who decide what bands get played on radio one appear they get attacked for being different, and give opinions based on what they hear and dont investigate the real facts. so its no wonder that the kids who like to call them selfs emo are hitting back, how about writing a peace about the typical group of guys walking down the street in there tracksuit bottoms and top and there base ball caps at an obscure angle with there hand down there crotch shouting abuse at everyone and considering themselves "hard" because they can call someone a gimp!!!. when was the last time you heard of a "emo" beating up and old granny for her purse.... never... now consider the chavs... yep hunfreds of times... i rest my case. the article was based on rumours and speculation not facts.

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  234. At 03:23 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Tom wrote:

    Emo's are all just jumped up moshers, with long fringes and listen to My Chemical Romance and Bullet. They are ruining the the look of scenesters by wearing drainpipes and stealing the very thing that chavs used to love, dunks!!!
    The Daily Mail however was way to extreme, most emos don't slit their wrists and say die, they just have a long fringe spike up their hair and get pissed in the local park like chavs...maybe the groups shoud merge...have a lot in common

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  235. At 03:23 PM on 21 Oct 2006, JayJ wrote:

    All I have to say is be thankful that everone doesnt dress in tracksuits and trainers, wear their hair hairsrayed back in a tight ponytail, dripping in gold and covered in orange make-up. Im Behind The Bands. x

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  236. At 03:32 PM on 21 Oct 2006, George wrote:

    Why are people being stereotyped in to diffrent groups? I think its stupid you have Chavs, Goths, Emos and many more there is no need for it when we grow up are children will ask why dont you talk to her we will have to say because there chav. So what they like diffrent types of music wear diffrent clothes and have diffrent views. ITS GETTING WORSE THAN RACISM AND PREJUDICE. Its ok 2 have your own opinion but just get along with each other.

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  237. At 03:39 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Abe wrote:

    Oh ffs! Anyone remember nu-metal?
    That was a fun phase.. or not. Brought along a load of baggy jeans, hoodies and chains.

    That was gthe scene just before emo was the scene.
    People have somehow decided they're arty and in touch with their emotions these days.

    I'm probably repeating what a few people have said here but I'm too lazy to read 200+ comments.

    It'll pass. There's some really cool things about the scene style and although I wouldn't go full on cut my own hair, stars on my arm emo, I do think the scene now can be pretty atrractive.

    There's always been a cutting scare and it's all just an attention seeking mess. I think it must happen with whoever the world's paying attention to at the time.

    Every big scene gets a bashing. The majority of them looked different before it all got big so there no need for crying about how they're getting a hard time.

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  238. At 03:59 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Sian Cairnd wrote:

    What is wrong with emo's i am 1 and who cares if u cut urself it has nothing to do with all those people who dont emo;s R Cool and det ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  239. At 04:00 PM on 21 Oct 2006, jim McDermott wrote:

    This is much ado about nothing. I'm 41, so I'm old enough to remember similar frights about punks and goths in the late 70s and early 80s, when mainstream society thought we were going to burn down the world. Then in the 80s there was all this stuff in the media about everyone who listens to heavy metal being a satan worshipper.

    Who is responsible? The media, primarily. Fear and controversy sell advertising space, but people have short attention spans, so in the US for instance, the media got everyone terrifed about spinach recently (the E.Coli scare.) That's a big story for a few weeks, then it's on to the next thing. Guess this week it's EMO. Next week, they're have everyone cowering behind their sofas with stories about deadly toast or something.

    Should anyone truly be scared of kids that wear eye shadow, seem unnecessarily depressed, and listen to a particular genre of music. Absolutely not. What's truly scary to me, is that all of these bands use similar cliches, both lyrically and sonically, and the whole EMO scene is so completely watered down and mediocre in comparison to what bands like The Clash or The Cure did nearly 30 years ago. How can so many bands look the same, sound the same, and say the same things, and be described as anything but shallow? I'm a lot more scared that such crap music generates such dedication.

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  240. At 04:06 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Jack Armiger wrote:

    Music is a way of expressing your emotions

    Emo stands for emotional

    So just cos you like emotional music means your an emo?

    Thats not right is it

    You should be able to listen to whatever you wont and not have a label stuck on you

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  241. At 04:06 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Paul Kelly wrote:

    I live in Bristol and we have a large concentration of Emo kids that hang out by the cathedral and council buildings. granted they pose no actual threat to any one and are simply enjoying themselves. however Emo is another heading for mild rebellion and many of these kids are rebelling against the fact that they are bored or not understood by the older generation. this is fine except that all to often these Emo's are intimidating oaps and leaving the area covered in trash and cig butts. so what occurs is a full circle Emo kids rebel against their feeling of isolation from the rest of the community and yet behave in a way that isolates them further. i feel that its fine to be able to express yourself in any maner you want its just a shame that so many people settle on an image that pushes them further away, not to mention makes them look like extras from the thriller video (just my opinion).

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  242. At 04:19 PM on 21 Oct 2006, su wrote:

    i have nothing against emos, but i feel the song emo kid by adam and andrew seems to sum it all up pretty well... and its funny :D

    u can find the song here:

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=21202070

    "Emo Kid"

    lots of love!

    su xx

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  243. At 04:33 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Hannah wrote:

    Emo stands for emotional. At my school me and my friends love rock music, we wear eyeliner, and skinny jeans. We dont self harm, but we still get classed as emos. To me its all stereotyping, im an individual, not an emo, chav, or townie. Just me.

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  244. At 04:51 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    Sittin on the fence with this one. Just like any other genre of music it's got good and bad songs in it. It bugs me seeing groups of malnutritioned, make up wearing 15 year olds calling themselves emotional.

    Weather i'm wearing my suit, jeans or PJs I have feelings all the time, no need to starve myself and wear make up to be in touch with my feelings.

    At the end of the day, bands like my chemical romance, funeral for a friend and whoever dont deserve a lame reputation due to this new fashion.

    The emo kids get a hard time but to be honest i'd rather today's youth be antisocial and wearin make up than annoying, loud 'gangsters' thinking they're the toughest thing in the world before they've grown all they're teeth.

    Radio 1 rocks, in new music and some 90's stuff i trust

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  245. At 04:52 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Maeve wrote:

    It's not fair that everyone who wears black clothing and listens to this kind of music are generlised cause i listen to that type of music as well as R&B and Dance and loads of others but yet i get called emo. My friends are emos and none of them self harm and soem of tehm laugh most of the time as do I and i don't think any of them could ever emagine self harming therself.

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  246. At 04:58 PM on 21 Oct 2006, georgie wrote:

    emo kids are depressed and giving them a hard time will just make it worse. I think some ov there music is ok but some is just wierd.

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  247. At 05:08 PM on 21 Oct 2006, justin timberlake wrote:

    oh dear lord.
    just shut up the lot of you.
    does anyone care?
    just leave everyone to it will you.

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  248. At 05:10 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Fred wrote:

    I think its just a type of music not metal not rock not alternative just emo. us lot 11-18s say that emos like death and are horrifying.

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  249. At 05:24 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Gillpot wrote:

    what is this emo OBSESSION for? the best description for emo's is chav's that wear black, and as for cutting themselves their supposed to use spoons! weather that would work i dont know but would love to see someone try! the danger is not emo but the fashionable side of self harm that is found in secondary schools across the country. at my school girls in particular try to gain attention from self harming. its clear who is genuine and who has made scratches along their arms for attention! the only way to stop this problem is for musical icons to set an example. although that is easier said then done!

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  250. At 05:44 PM on 21 Oct 2006, lizzie wrote:

    i love emos because i am one
    and MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE ARE MY FAVOURITE BAND

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  251. At 05:44 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Matthew Tilley wrote:

    emos are really just a bunch of posers. im from ireland and all these youth sects are at war with each other like emos against chavs. these kids think this gives them individuality but they dont realise that their conforming to a larger group.

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  252. At 05:59 PM on 21 Oct 2006, KitKat wrote:

    Most of theses Emo wannabes think that dance music is chavy, thing is i love dance music and its deffo not chavy!

    And if theses emos attempt to cut themselves then they're just stupid

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  253. At 06:11 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Niki wrote:

    My Chemical Romance are a rubbish band, but leave the Emos alone. The Daily mail article was written by someone ill informed of Music culture, and likes to sound concerned, when really, they're just badmouthing something they have no understanding of.

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  254. At 06:15 PM on 21 Oct 2006, icEtroY wrote:

    I dont get what all the fuss is about, have emos ever offended you?

    they are not sissys, I strongly believe that crying is a
    strength not a weakness, the true sissys are the ones that are ashamed to cry.
    We are human ok, we make mistakes we screw up, people hurt you, people have feelings, how can you deny that and just but it in a box calling it
    "Emotional" ?

    Emo is expression of depression


    Im a believer of Jesus christ, and some people give me a lot of stick about that, when its really none of their business what I believe.

    Surely this is not a case of whether or not Emo is "cool" but its hypocritical critizism.

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  255. At 06:20 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Christie wrote:

    although im not an emo myself i do like the music and have downloaded many 'emo' tracks. i have no problem with people our age expressing themselves in whichever way they want! its all got slightly out of hand with the newspapers calling it a 'dangerous cult' and i really dnt think that many self harm! There has bin an increase in emos i must admit but thats just becuz the music is becoming more and more popular and more teens are listening to it, and lets be honest its alot better that steps!

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  256. At 06:29 PM on 21 Oct 2006, olivia wrote:

    emos are only emos because they think they will get attention from it. i don't know how you can say a band is emo because it is listend to by emos. i am a goth, i listen to bands like mcr and fallout boy, am i an emo i think not. Emo bands are ok but they all are a bit "samey"

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  257. At 07:17 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Sally Hughes wrote:

    I think people who don't accept people and who they are are basically discriminating! People call me emo just because i like writing poems and reading. I think thats quite wrong. I have lots of friends who are emo who dont do any of thoes things. Their funny, caring and respect you. Some of my other friends hate emo's. I dont see why they do but they tried to explain and came up with a crap answer.

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  258. At 07:41 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Hannah wrote:

    This article is way too stereotypical to be taken seriously, I mean come on, there are loads of "emo" and goth people in this world, they may have a dark look, doesn't mean they're miserable and suicidal.

    It's not only emo's that swap tips on self harm, there are so many networks for self-harmers, from any social group.

    I'm not emo myself, though have been called it (heaven forbid I should wear a t-shirt with a cartoon character on and not be emo!), but I have many friends who consider themselves to be such, they are some of the most amazing people I've ever met, yes some are over dramatic and look depressed all the time, but not everyone, that would be like saying all chavs mug people, all goths sleep in a coffin etc.

    I think it's very sad that people feel they need to find a social group they can fit into because of the way we are conditioned in society.

    Everyone just go with the flow, wear what you want, listen to what you like, who cares. If you feel the need to harm yourself, please seek help, don't just become part of a growing cult. Be your own person!

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  259. At 07:46 PM on 21 Oct 2006, bEN fULLER wrote:

    Theres nothing wrong with Emos,
    There harmless its chavs you all wanna be talking about here.
    There the ones SMASHING up our streets, smoking the drugs and just being CHAVS.
    INIT AND ALL THAT CRAP is from them animals so talk about them and dont waste your time

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  260. At 08:13 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    Well I Have No Problem with Emo's I Would Class Myself As One And Im Sick Of People Picking On Mr for It.

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  261. At 08:15 PM on 21 Oct 2006, amy wrote:

    theres a huge difference between 'emo' and scene kids. what the guardian is hyping up is the typical scene kid and it gives the whole 'emo'. 'emo' is a genre of music, not a person. you don't go around saying 'oh, i am so r'n'b' do you? i say 'emo' with quote marks because it's a word used so loosely now that no-one even knows what it means anymore. what music people consider to be 'emo' is nothing like what was originally classed as 'emo' music i doubt you'd find that article mentioning dashboard confessional, bright eyes and sunny day real estate


    that is all.

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  262. At 08:16 PM on 21 Oct 2006, ben wrote:

    ok erm just point out but MCR arnt classed as emo or as pop
    and 'emos' dont get a hard time from any1 apart from people like chavs but aslong as ur not a chav u will get a hard time from them
    and the music aint to bad to b fair to them

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  263. At 08:39 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Richa Shukla wrote:

    Okay, I'm 19 now, and have kind of gotten over the whole mosher vs. chav fight. I got over it a long time ago. But that has to be THE funniest article I have ever read, probably ever. Fact:it is hilarious cripe. I cannot believe that ANYONE is attributing something as serious as self harm to a group of youths who like to write poetry and dress in a similar way.
    For generations teenagers have been involved in uniformed groupings on a national scale, and the EMO is sure as hell nothing new, in fact, it's probably the most diluted version of the goth you could possibly get.
    I love this article because it is yet another example of how some random person tries to understand today's youth and then gets it so very wrong. I don't know a single emo who exclusively wears black, nor did I realise that you could in fact estimate the emo-ness of a person. Jeez-louise, Sophie Ellis Bextor? Daughter of former Blue Peter presenter Sophie Ellis-Bextor? I can totally see it. The lyrics "yeah if this ain't love, why does it feel so good?" do scream some sort of tortuous feeling of angst and is a worry for any parent to allow their child to hear. And also, how can poetry writing possibly be seen as a bad thing? HONESTLY? It's a private therapy, it gets feelings bottled up, out.
    So, yes, this is very non-sensical piece of writing, and bears absolutley no fact.

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  264. At 08:55 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Leif wrote:

    Im an emo and yes I do get a hard time but dont care. Emo music is the best. I dont see why everyone is anti emo

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  265. At 08:58 PM on 21 Oct 2006, dom wrote:

    Emos are emos. Thier music is cool, they arnt simply. Thier music is good and has a real rhythm unlike most around today. To say some one is an emo because of song lyrics is also stupid, listen to some nirvana? Thier grunge not emo but thier lyrics arnt. Smells like teen spirit: 'Load up on guns' or 'Its fun to lose' Emo lyrics about the bad things in life. An emo is someone who harms themselves and is a type of goth. Listening to thier music is not emo, its just good taste.

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  266. At 09:08 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Tom French wrote:

    The Sarah Sands from the Daily Mail writes about how chavs are 'Bubbly faced'. Honestly I'd prefer my kids to wear black and listen to heavy music than go to the park every night, getting drunk and mugging people.

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  267. At 09:09 PM on 21 Oct 2006, J2Whoa wrote:

    Frankly i think that the fact that this "debate" is even occurring is ridiculous. Maybe these people dress like this because they want to? What the hell business is it of you to feel the need to criticise because they dont look the same as you or listen to the same music as you? That piece of poorly researched, and downright ridiculous "journalism" was just yet another way to get at these kids for doing what they want to do. In the end we are all just human beings so leave them, chavs, and everyone other segregational stereotype alone for God's sake.

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  268. At 09:14 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Ferox wrote:

    Music is ok, clothes...well ok too. But that depresion thingy :O omg! people should understand finally that depresion isn't a fashion thing, it's serious illness. You can't say that you are depresed only if you're in bad mood today...

    About cutting. It's totally rubish that every emo cutts. But we can't forget that there are kids who really do that because they have big problems... and they need help.

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  269. At 09:41 PM on 21 Oct 2006, ssss wrote:

    omg I am so fed up of people mis-using teh word emo and especially when radio stations and channels like mtv 2 and Kerrang mis-use the term to its wrong bands like Joy division is proper emo all of the MCR and The Used is rubbish and people with the image its just a scene kid who things he's all depressed and what-not and the self-harm thing dows come with the stereo-type and these kids need to grow up and get over it Im 15 I realise that my life doesnt suck for me but for the people who are actually there starving do they start cutting themselves on purpose no they have to get on with life so should all these little "emos" that seem to be popping up everywhere

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  270. At 09:53 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Stuart wrote:

    I am against the 'emo' 'movement' the music inspires kids to self harm and the lyrics are depressing. All music is emotional singing about break-ups etc so why is this music different???!!!

    I think this backlash has been long coming its just the music hasnt been as well known kinda like now MCR are number one its been critisized *spelling mistake i know*


    People say they are Emo yet EMO IS MUSIC!!!!!! not a person!!!!!!

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  271. At 09:54 PM on 21 Oct 2006, EMO DUNNO wrote:

    At the school that i go to the EMO sterotype is that they are depressed people who slit their wrists for enjoyment or to try and comit suicide hhowever i do nt belive that this that true as their is this kid who goes on our bus he used to be pretty normal for a 14 year old boy. but just before the summer he decided to becime a goth it worked for a few coments were passed but everyone got over it. But just recently he has started to become an EMO listen to that type of music weres certain clothes etc... But when this happened he started to get bulied alot and got into fights alot. One morning about a week ago he tried to slit his wrists on a pice of cut glass from a smashed window but lucikly we stoped him. After that we asked him why he did it and he said it was because thats what he thought EMOS do! i think no one should be influenced by this but MCR i think have nothing to do with this so leave the sterotyping out of this.

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  272. At 10:11 PM on 21 Oct 2006, rob lewis wrote:

    what's all this about the "emo" kids!?
    i'm 29 and get called an "emo",so it aint just the kids.
    i live in swansea,i'm a father of two,i clean windows for a living. yeah, i have tattoo's! yeah, i have a pierced lip! yeah, i like bands like evanescence and my chemical romance,but, do i cry or hate my dad when i listen to these albums?????
    NO! i just love their music.
    emo....shmemo...!
    rant over..thanks annie mac,love the show!


    rob

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  273. At 10:17 PM on 21 Oct 2006, L wrote:

    I agree with Jon, a lot of kids (and they generally are kids) who call themselves "emo" are getting confused with "goth". Maybe they don't know the difference. I always considered the term "emo" to be associated with emotional music about love, heartbreak or sadness. Genuine human feelings. As for MCR, I think they are rather cute really, not metal and not dark, just a bit of fun. Its hard to really take them seriously as "emo".

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  274. At 10:26 PM on 21 Oct 2006, Verity Webb wrote:

    This emo thing is just getting completley out of hand! The views about emos are all steriotypical! "Emo's are all the same" we each are our own individual person but emo's dress the same and look the same!
    Look at chavs!
    I myself hate them but i'm warming to a few at my school!
    My view of chavs is they are all ASBO's trouble makers and i am scared of them!
    We should be concentrating on other problems instead of emo's! Come on Its crazy!
    Emo is a fashion!
    Emo is a trend!
    Don't read a book by it cover people!
    What's the big problem i do see us all concentrating on goths they supposedly "self harm"
    The war on emo has just got so unproportionaly out of hand and its beginning to get on my nerves aswell as many others!
    Teenagers have enough pressure enough without people accusing them of being emo!
    Theres this girl she wears fred perry listens to hardcore dance and rNb and she called me emo! If i dont listen 2 the same music as her or wear the same clothes as her im emo! If you aint chav then you're emo! Its rediculous!
    Glad i've got that out of my system!

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  275. At 10:47 PM on 21 Oct 2006, rachel wrote:

    what does it matter if people wear skinny jeans, have black hair and wear eyeliner?! labels are stupid, why can't you like mcr and mcfly? why cant you like opera and rock? My chemical Romance are really good, and nobody can aruge other wise, they have a huge fan base, they are number 1 and they are really good live. I dont understand why people like to put people into neat little boxes, surely the most important thing is that the genre of music a person likes is being shown to as many people as possible. I for one love to get different people interested in the bands I like. I wish people would stop labeling people and stop this whole emo debate. It is a fashion just like punk was and will be again probably. Clothing isn't important and if people like a type of music then its worthy of respect and not abuse.

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  276. At 10:47 PM on 21 Oct 2006, yo wrote:

    i think that the so called "emo war" is blown all out of proportion. you cant judge people on what music they listen to or how they dress. im not an "emo" but i think that we should veiw all people and all sub- cultures in the same way.

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  277. At 11:19 PM on 21 Oct 2006, woohoo!!!!! wrote:

    dude!!!! the world has just gota stop all this grouping such as "chavz" and "neds" learn 2 get along man! every1z going 2 be different so i say 2 all ma dudes and dudets out there ROCK ON! and keep being you watever your into . WOOHOO!

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  278. At 11:22 PM on 21 Oct 2006, woohoo!!!!! wrote:

    dude!!!! the world has just gota stop all this grouping such as "chavz" and "neds" learn 2 get along man! every1z going 2 be different so i say 2 all ma dudes and dudets out there ROCK ON! and keep being you watever your into . WOOHOO!

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  279. At 11:58 PM on 21 Oct 2006, kirsty wrote:

    people think that if you listern to emo then you are automaticly depressed and suicidal, well i listern to a lot of emo and am neather i also read cosmopolitan just as much as kerrange and follow high fashion. My point is you can like the music without being emo.

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  280. At 12:36 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Abby wrote:

    EMO is the most confusing thing I've ever come across lol.

    For a start one guy has said that anything on the radio or in the charts is pop, true, as in popular but that doesn't mean pop can cover everything that is played. Radio one play an ecclectic range of genres but it doesn't stop them being indie, emo, metal, dance, hip-hop, rave, r'n'b or anything else for that matter!

    I get labelled as indie because the majority of music I listen to is classed in that genre and I never shut up about it but then I've had people say I look "emo" just because I occasionally wear skinny jeans and I have a long fringe. So has one of my friends who listens to everything going so does that make her emo too?

    MCR are incredibly crap in my eyes but its personal opinion and to be honest the minute I saw them on stage at Leeds Fest asking the crowd to start chanting dead I walked away with my head down thinkin "bloody emos!" so I stereotype too!

    The long and short of my rant is that emo stands for emotional yes? In which case probably every band, group, MC, DJ, artist are emo! If that makes sense.

    I'm gonna shut up now lol

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  281. At 01:41 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Tom wrote:

    Its just music. I don't like it, but i don't hate people that listen to it. People should be free to dress how they want and listen to what they want (even if it is crap). If people want to be introspective and moody then so be it. It doesn't affect anyone else, so just let people do what they want to do.

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  282. At 03:07 AM on 22 Oct 2006, nick wrote:

    emo was a derogatory term back in the day for over the top hardcore bands like rites of spring and orchid. the culture surrounding those bands is unrecognisable when compared what kids these days call "emo"

    the "emos" we have nowadays have nothing to do with emo music, bands like MCR take advantage of the modern misuse of the word to market their appalling pop-punk to the masses.

    in it's original form any sort of emo culture was a product of the emo music; whereas now 15 years on the reverse is true, "emo" music is a product of "emo" culture.

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  283. At 09:28 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Sayyan LeSuere wrote:

    Surely calling My Chemical Romance emo is a bit flawed; especially from music industry proffesionals.

    I admit one or two songs, I'm Not Okay, Helena, and the bands older aesthetics; were fairly close to emo. But taking the bands knew album as a whole; there new look, I can't really find anything specifically "emo".

    If it's the music style; your calling bands like Queen (who The Black Parade has had comparisons drawn too by several of your DJs and the band themselves) emo.

    If it's the dress sense, thats just bloody ridiculous; firstly dress-sense should not dictate a bands genre, and secondly they don't even dress in an emo "fashion" anymore.

    Finally; the lyrics arne't at all traditional emo if you actually read them and think about them; there all associated with death; but by no means does that make a band emo. It's to broad, thousands of bands have written songs about death.

    Surely when it gets to a point where anyone with lyrics slightly darker than Barney the Dinosaur, and whos clothes contained black is called emo, by the industry and the radio stations. Any thoughts of proffesionalism have drifted off?

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  284. At 09:58 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Evelyn wrote:

    I love the fact that all those people who are like " MCR and Panic! are shit!" are saying that because they've fallin in with the oh so cool thing of hating a band because it's cool to.

    Get Over Yourself.

    If you don't like them so what..I'm sure they don't care. Just because you don't like somthing doesn't mean it's crap.

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  285. At 10:00 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Ed wrote:

    I'm pretty split on this one. one of my best m8s is emo n wen he first made the change, he was real depressed, and did self-harm. But he soon changed. Now hes real jolly and doesnt write heartbreaking poetry out of his a*se. There's nothing wrong wiv them, its just a cult following of music and lifestyle.
    I think all these cults are segregating - chavs, emo, goth etc. they separate communities and actually TAKE AWAY individuals freedom of expression.
    Also, since when is green day remotely emo? - and P!ATD said in NME on wednesday about how they are not emo and want to be the next radiohead - a shabby attempt at marketing.
    As for the music, emo is shit. Except Get Cape Wear Cape Fly.

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  286. At 10:09 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Joe Evans wrote:

    Although I am not a fan of emo music and not a big fan of emo's I think that are becoming more popular.

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  287. At 10:10 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Rhianne wrote:

    Hi! I would just like to say that i'm not personally emo but alot of my friends are. there is nothing wrong with them and all they really want to do is listen to music and gave a laugh with each other. the people i know that self harm aren't even emo! all it is is a group of people that like to have fun,do all the normal teenage stuff but they like to be oprn about their EMOtions.

    Lots of Love

    Rhianne/Rhimanne x/x/x/x
    p.s you ROCK!

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  288. At 10:12 AM on 22 Oct 2006, billy wrote:

    i know emos and there music but they all say there all idervidual but they all have the same haircuts luv the same music and clothes to me that aint iderviduality

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  289. At 10:45 AM on 22 Oct 2006, abi wrote:

    The article is rediculous - the older generations have obviously forgotten what it was like to be young, needing to have some sense of identity and doing things that purposefully annoy your parents. Emo is just one of the many 'looks and lifestyles' out there and I don't think it's any more to be worried about than if a teenager was a chav! Emo music rocks man, who cares about what everyone else thinks heh? And as for the suicide bit, the rates are enormous in the uk for young people - reporters should stop trying to blame it on a youth cult and start addressing the real reason...
    cheers

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  290. At 10:45 AM on 22 Oct 2006, mark vader wrote:

    I LIKE ALL SORTS OF MUSIC AND AM OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE JOY DIVISION AND THE CURE ON VINYL. THESE BANDS WOULD BE CONSIDERED EMO NOWADAYS. THERE WAS A FEELING OF SEPARATISM BACK IN THE LONG MAC WEARING DAYS, BUT IT WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION AS I DIDN'T WANT TO DIE BY THE STATIC BUILD UP CREATED BY CONSTANTLY WEARING A SHELL SUIT! ALSO THE MUSIC WAS PREFERABLE TO MICHAEL JACKSON ETC.I HAVE NEVER SELF HARMED OR HARMED ANYONE ELSE AND IF I WAS ALONE AND ENCOUNTERED A GROUP OF YOUTHS SKULKING IN A DARK ALLEY I WOULD RATHER THEY BE SO CALLED EMOS THAN SO CALLED CHAVS!

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  291. At 10:59 AM on 22 Oct 2006, franz indienand wrote:

    Look, this emo "war" is stupid espicially any other rocker types having a go at em.

    There is not point any other groups within the rock n roll circle having a go at them, because we are all contained under the big rock n roll umbrella of rock n roll. So live with it, different strokes for different folks.

    Why have a go at a group of people who mostly mean no harm to anyone else?

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  292. At 11:09 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Olivia wrote:

    I love stuff like MCR and Panic but some of my guy mates call me emo cuz of it. As far as I'm concerned music is music so I don't reali care what ppl say but ppl use the term too easily! I no ppl who are called emo for having an 'emo' haircut. The problem is when we call them 'chav' you risk them starting a fight with you.

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  293. At 11:14 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Olivia wrote:

    Even chavs that wear eye make up get called emo. Free conutry?

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  294. At 11:16 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Andrew Williams wrote:

    i personally do not think that people know what emo music is. i would not class my chemical romance as emo because they are liked by 'scene' kids who try and be emo; mcr r the most famous band which are closest to emo but are NOT! its like green day, people who want to be punk listen to them 1st but i personally think that they r not punk. Emos though are getting a hard time for the music and clothes they wear, its there choice after all, we shudnt critize them! the same happend with chavs and people are coming to terms that people who listen 2 rap music are not chavs. Its just steriotyping if you saw a band ten years ago with black hair and black make-up wearing black outfits, you would class them as goths nowadays, they are emo so therefore marlyin manson is emo. My view of emo is a mixture between punk and goth music and styles, things have to change and older people who grew up with a punk or goth lifestyle dont like it and critize it, dont worry it wont last for long...

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  295. At 11:18 AM on 22 Oct 2006, CJ wrote:

    im 15 and i have some emo friends, i think their style is awesome, and Im pretty sure im not friends with anyone who self harms, thats just very streotypical, people can dress how they want and listen to what music they want. People should stop saying things about them about self harming, personally i would never do it, but its they're way of calling out for help, if someone actually listened they would probably stop doing it.

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  296. At 11:23 AM on 22 Oct 2006, Jonny wrote:

    Emo is basically a bunch of winey kids running around with make up on some of them go a bit to far into the suicidle genre which is not good, but who cares what the rest of them do, let them listen to music while crying to the devil it makes no difference to me!

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  297. At 11:25 AM on 22 Oct 2006, ruby wrote:

    i dnt like emo's they just want attention.. but i do luv the rocka dn indie bands !

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  298. At 12:05 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alex Drake wrote:

    I dont see what people have against emos, emos are just regular people but with a different outlook on life so what if they like different music/wear different clothes no one is the same!

    But most emos arent actually emos they are just fasion followers, has any1 else noticed how shops like primark have started selling 'emo' belts and the stripy tops which are apparently emo when they arent, most people who wears these clothings dont even listen to 'emo' music.

    also the fact that panic! at the disco and fall out boy call themselves emo? i meen whats with that, real emo music is bands like funeral for a friend.

    i personally hav nothing against emos , its just chavs that do, i meen if i , being a metal head, walk down the street wearing anything that isnt chav im apparently emo? and they say for having longish black hair im emo, they even stop me to check my wrist to see if ive been slashing them?
    chavs really need to get the cultures right. they started calling everyone who was different goths now its emo. whats next?

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  299. At 12:34 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Rob wrote:

    I don't see why people get worked up over anything printed in the daily mail. To be honest its about someone started bringing the $hite they always print to the forefront and start a backlash that will make people think about the papers they buy and read.

    They know nothing about youth in Britain and know everything about twisting anything to help back up all of their agendas. I like to call it "spin", the very same thing they campaign against the Labout party doing

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  300. At 12:36 PM on 22 Oct 2006, kerry pibworth wrote:

    i am completely for emos. people should be allowed to be individuals and be who they want to be. if others just judge them and try to force them to be different they will grow up into people they hate. My Chemical Romance are just doing what they want and making great music, if adults are allowed to be who they want why arent the children? i think that the emo debate is pathetic, and should just be scrapped. cant people see that doing this and trying to force people to change is just making them even more depressed? i dont understand why people are doing this to them. leave them be, if they dont like who they are they will change, but until then leave them alone and let them get on wwith their lives.

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  301. At 12:49 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Naomi wrote:

    Well.... i think there is nothing wrong with 'emo'. Emo is more like a fashion style than anything else. It's derrived from alternativeism (my new word). It's jsut a way of expressing yourself. People would say i dressed 'emo' and i like badns that are put under the 'emo' sterotype. And to be honest there is nothing wrong with that, it's just when people get discriminated for being 'emo'. After all we can't all be the same. 'Emo' is just a classification for people with a different veiw on life... like chavs, townies, or goths. After all it's just a style, and you shouldn't really get discriminated for being different.

    xxx naomi xxx

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  302. At 12:56 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Mork wrote:

    My chemical romance are not an emo band, the are a post hardcore band, like most bands in the 'emo scene' are now. I listen to post hardcore, and people call me emo, its annoying as bands like bright eyes or blood brothers are emo. Just because bands scream doesn't make them emo. Its just a label that media have added because they actually know nothing about music. Bands like Brighteyes sing about love lost not the type of subject featured in most Panic!At The Disco Songs, why do people see emo as a dirty word associated with 12 year olds in Skinny jeans? Actual emo bands are brilliant and deserve the correct recognition for their music and their musical genre.

    Traditionally Emo has been described as Punk music on estrogen. Often acoustic guitar with soft, high male vocals that dwell exessively on the singer's feelings, especially melancholy remembrances of past relationships/mistakes in life. A form of music that diverged from punk in the '80s, the name "emo" is derived from the emotive style of the lyrics and music. This genre has lately been marketed heavily by the music industry to teenagers with bands such as Dashboard Confessional and Taking Back Sunday, and has seen much commercial and mainstream success. The music has also spawned a subculture which conforms to certain conventions in dress such as tight sweatshirts, tight band T-shirts and horn-rim glasses. Adherents profess to exessively melancholy temperments. Males that adhere to the emo subculture are sometimes confused with metrosexuals; indeed the line between the two is somwhat blurred, though both groups claim to be intouch with their emotional side. The ephemeral and hackneyed nature of emo songwriting suggests that its audience will be restricted largely to teenagers. the genre suffers from a lack of credibility outside the aforementioned demographic group, much like current Nu Metal bands.

    The emo you are all mentioning is merely a fashion among teenagers at the moment and whats wrong with that? We've all been there with bands of our time like Nirvana, it's what being a teenager is all about!

    Stop getting musically high and mightly, we should all congratulate MCR for getting to number one, they deserve it.

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  303. At 12:57 PM on 22 Oct 2006, mad man ross wrote:

    emo bands like MCR degrade the true meaning of rock and metal music, they are no more than 'slightly more alternative' pop bands. THEY ARE FAKES! i have nothing against the clothing style or the image, but i disagree with them calling themselves any form of rock.

    i agree that the mail on sundays article on emo was completly wrong, since when are green day emo!?! and to try and suggest that kurt cobain was an emo influence just because he died is stupid.

    bring back grunge! a true teenage rebellion genre!

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  304. At 01:05 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Kimberley wrote:

    I can't understand the need for the media to pigeonhole every type of music and fashion trend. I listen to metal, punk, pop-punk, indie and goth amongst others. If the music sounds good to me, then I listen to it.

    what I find insulting about the daily mail article in general, is that it is so misinformed and full of wild assumptions. I feel a bit targeted by it because if you read the description of the so-called 'emo-kid', I fit the visual profile. I'm naturally dark haired and fair skinned and wear a lot of black. I am also an arts graduate, having studied English at Uni. Yes, I have several 'emo' bands in my CD collection and yes, I also happend to like My Chemical Romance, but I would like to point out to the journalist (if she should ever read this board) that I am a well adjusted member of society. I've never had the urge to self harm, and okay, there have been depressing periods in my life, but the music I listen to has never caused it. In fact, sometimes listening to music has helped in a small way.

    The emo-kids are getting a hard time purely because they are the latest music/fashion trend. I'm on the fence over if i agree or disagree with them. I think that some of them are clearly posers and will abandon the trend once the next-big-thing hits. When I was in high school, it was the whole nu-metal thing with baggy jeans, hoodies and skateboarding trainers. Before my time it was the manky grunge look with doc martens and lumberjack shirts.
    Then again, what is so wrong about being with a group of like minded people who enjoy the same things as you? As long as they aren't doing anything to trouble the rest of society, then I don't see the harm in that.

    My final words are targeted solely at the Daily Mail readers. Music does not kill. My Chemical Romance don't encourage their fans to cut themselves up. take the time to listen to them and read interviews with them. But of course, throwing wild accusations at bands that are a little different is nothing new. Wasn't Marilyn Manson accused of causing the Columbine High School massacre? Wasn't Judas Priest and Ozzy amongst others, accused of hiding subliminal messages in their music that encouraged people to commit suicide?

    I would like to end this post by asking the Daily Mail or in fact any concerned conservative individual why they have never launched a full out assault on pop music in general? After all, the pussycat dolls and girls aloud disturb me way more than kids dressing in black with complicated hair styles.
    Why?
    Little girs dancing and singing along to such overtly sexual gems as 'I'm just a love machine/feeding my fantasy.'
    So wrong on so many levels......

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  305. At 01:16 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Chris wrote:

    LEave them fucking alone, its none of ur business. I'm not an emo but like most people they have a kind of dress code. so do chav's!!! burglary caps and all that. NOthing bein said bout them!

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  306. At 01:21 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alicia wrote:

    My Chemical Romance are not a pop band..there far from it!. They are emotional rock. If you listened to the lyrics you would relise that "H".

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  307. At 02:03 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Dave McLeod wrote:

    at the end of the day its just music. the only people that care about stereotyping and labelling music are people with nothing better to do.

    i say people can like whatever the hell they want and leave it at that. Personally i like artists ranging from My Chemical Romance to Razorlight to "pop acts" like Will Young.

    People, Grow up

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  308. At 02:19 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alice Bowring wrote:

    Although the article from the Daily Mail does hit some key issues - self harm etc it is ridiculous to say that this is because being emo is "cool". It also makes countless references to goths, emos aren't goths and I have many friends who dress in emo stylee clothes and this is not all in black, black would be gothic. I don't know what the big deal is? let people where what they want, if you don't like it who cares? you don't have to wear it! It is unfair to say that only emos self harm and whatever anyone dresses like you've got to be an idiot to think that cutting yourself is the thig to do to fit in. I think you will only find misguided idiots doing that.

    Plus.. everyone knows the Daily Mail is full of s**t!
    who agrees?

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  309. At 02:38 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Joheed and Cambria wrote:

    I have been into emotional hardcore (emo for short) since I first heard 'Bleed American' by Jimmy Eat World and it opened me up to a lot of new bands and the music has helped me through many hard times in my life but of course it annoys me how it is mainstream these days. I'm not being called a goth in the street anymore, I'm now called an emo and I presume it was only a matter of time before emo was going to be in the mainstream. It's just a shame of what is representing emo at the moment and it's not the valued artists that get the recognition in the UK they deserve. Bands like Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance will be popular because they are pop-rock bands with a hint of emo which are focused for the mainstream. Does that mean that emo is the enemy? Everyone bangs on about The Kooks and Razorlight yet they're indie for the mainstream, am I right? MCR being number 1 in my eyes is actually fantastic. I find it funny because it has upset the generic indie bands eg Kasabian, Razorlight, Oasis who are basically dull and tiresome and we have no need for them. The thing that I think people find more annoying in this emo war is the kids and the depth of their status. People try to look emo because they think it's cool. They hear 'I Write Sins Not Tradegies' and all these kids jump on the bandwagon without any knowledge of what is going on. It's sad when a kid comes up to me saying 'who are at the drive-in?' whilest they have their fall out boy tee shirt on. It something that angers me because newmo's don't have a clue. Ask them about Fall Out Boy and they'll say 'Pete Wentz is a genius etc etc' but I bet in 5 years time, no-one will give a damn, but mention real emo/emotional hardcore/screamo/post hardcore like Glassjaw, Thursday, At The Drive In, Saves The Day, Fugazi and they won't have a clue what you're on about. The kids will not last, this is just a phase that music is going through and I presume in 2-3 years, the kids will jump on another bandwagon but Emo will still exsist becuase true emo fans will stay with it because it's not fashion to us, the music means something. We're not trying to out-scene each other, we relating to the music we love to listen to and be a part of. In conclusion I should say I'm of course all for emo, but fake emo can just hopefully fade away, or be classified as something else, maybe pop punk (Fall Out Boy, Panic! At The Disco) or Goth Punk (My Chemical Romance) so I won't have people coming up to me saying 'You're an emo! I like Fall Out Boy, I like emo.' They just need to be slapped.
    Thanks for listening

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  310. At 02:48 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Howard Storey wrote:

    I respect MCR for leaving Emo behind. Emo stands for emotional and that is excactly what they are, they cry and look for attention. Also sliting their wrists, they do that for attention. I don't know what's with the skin tight jeans for 8 year olds and the jet black hair with a stupidly long fringe over one eye. WHAT IS WITH THE MAKE UP!!!

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  311. At 02:53 PM on 22 Oct 2006, ben wrote:

    To be honest I can't relate to the emo culture but everyone is different people dress to fit in and when the dress to be different they fit in with that group, i say just wear what you want, listen to what you want and live your life, no-one has anything to fear from the emo-culture at all just accept it, ben, kent

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  312. At 02:55 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Nicola wrote:

    i think its pathetic. where i live its emos against the chavs and then well everyone else is just kicked to the side. i think emos and chavs are exactly the same, all silly little fashion followers, who think they are cool because they know all these bands and have a yellow streak running through their jet black hair. they think its cool to wear their jeans around their knees (boys as well as girls), they think its cool to listen to really rubbishy bands they can barely play their instruments. When really all the music they listen to is in the charts. They think are seperated by society but they are society as there are so many of them, they are no longer the individuals because well...they all follow the crowd, like chavs do. they both like to drink,. listen to god awful music and smoke weed in the streets, the only difference is the dress code, but even thats starting to become similar

    On the other hand most people who dress emo are not even emo, they listen to mcr and proclaim to be hardcore emo, when they arent, i think its unfair to say that emo is a type of music, when all music on some level is emotional. emo is a fashion trend. as lover of all music i think its bad that the music market is saturated with really terrible bands that come under the emo label just because they have this huge fashion following. i dont have a problem with the people, its just the fashion, the pretentious, we are better than you fashion

    but thats teenage fashion for you

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  313. At 03:03 PM on 22 Oct 2006, stacy wrote:

    personally i dont get why people class themselves as 'emo' because, being short for emotional, that would put everyone in the world under that catagory (unless theyre heartless which i guess some few people might be) kids go around calling it a scene, when in actual fact it's just a new genre of music. music which is filled with strongly-emotional lyrics. but i dont think its something we can ever get away from - life is full of stereotypes/groups: chavs/neds/townies, goths, emos, geeks/nerds etc...but why people feel the need to catagorise people just because of the way they look, act, music that theyre into i cant understand. i think people who class themselves as 'emo' or a 'goth' are just people who want to feel a sense of belonging. i know i dont put myself into any of the well-known groups because i dont fit into the stereotype. there are a lot of kids in my school, mostly boys in the below years, who constantly go around calling my small group of friends goths simply because we wear black...ITS SCHOOL UNIFORM! so it makes no sense at all. i hate how people think 'they wear black, cry all the time...they must be a goth, they must slit their wrists!' when the fact of the matter is they just like that clothing and probably have a lot of problems/troubles at home or in other areas of their life, and everyone has their fair share of troubles they just deal with it in different ways.

    i know someone whos into heavy metal/emo type music (a friend of a friend who i actually hate) and shes one of the most self-obsessed, annoying twats ive ever come across. all she talks about is herself and how her family sucks and pity me, pity me. sometimes its jsut like SHUT UP. I dont know why people who wear black/gothic/'emo' clothing hang around in gangs, but i just think its to do with belonging. when you're labelled you at least belong somewhere. you might hate it, but there are loads of other kids the same as you. the 'chavs' i know of might hang around in groups but when you catch them on their own they actually talk to you and are ok, but if you slag them off because of something they said who comes running? they need their mates to back them up.

    theres not much point in arguing about it because nothings ever gonna change. people are always going to be brought up around stereotypes, there'll be the odd few who will actually stick out from the crowd without even trying...but even if you dont class yourself as a type of person, you're still being labelled as 'normal' or 'non-conformative' either way, you can't have one thing without the other, it just wouldn't balance. and wouldn't the word be bland and uninteresting if there were no groups of kids trying to be different?

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  314. At 03:13 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Kirsty Johnston wrote:

    ive been called a emo but i dont think i am one but if i was i dont think i would care cos well.. wats rong wit it? its their choice!

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  315. At 03:15 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Sean wrote:

    After reading the Daily Mail article. I was very angry about how the whole 'EMO' genre has been sterotyped and catergorized. The article was misformative and gave a bad impression of 'Emo'. This one of the key reasons why it has suddenly been a backlash. I think the backlash is unecessarily and uncalled for. If people want to listen to 'Emo' music let them. I think it is wrong when people criticzed others for being different, I mean wouldn't it be rubbbish if everyone was the same.
    I for one like 'emo' music and at times has helped through hard times but so has other genre's of music.
    So what if My Chemical Romance are number 1. This shows there is an Emo fanbase out there and they are willing to support their bands to number 1. I'm also guessing non-'EMO' fans brought the single, does that now make them 'emo'.
    Personally I think this whole 'emo' thing will die down, just like the whole 'nu-metal' craze afew years ago.

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  316. At 03:19 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Nics wrote:

    i think its important to distinguish between emo the fashion and emo the music....there is a large difference.

    I think that in the past 5 or 6 years a really pretentious and arrogant attitude to music has built up. You have these people who claim to be purist who dont like anything made after 1990, and then you have the exact opposite who wouldnt dare listen to anything made before 1990, all these little pretentious people who like to discover new bands so that they can be really cool, just to move on when they enter mainstream.

    I myself am not an emo. im a me. i dress how i wnat which is typical...jeans jumpers scarfs, converses, whacky accesories, im not overly into fashion..'normal' or 'emo' and i am glad to say im not pretentious i listen to absoloutley everything.....rock, indie, pop, jazz, metal, hip hop, r n b, dance, country and most definitley anything 50s and 60s....

    .i think with me as someone said before its all down to you. music for me is either great, good, bad or just plaing ugly, and if someone wants to dance to girls aloud then good for them, if someone likes to chill out to jack johnson, good for them, is someone loves a bit of old school like myself then good for them, and even though im not the biggest fan of all these new bands some of they are credible and sound good. i hate music snobs, the people who think they know it all, they dont, music is entirely down to taste, now i think that gargage music is god awful where as some people love it, and thats ok because its down to them. i think bon jovi are on eof the best bands ever, some people would ask me firstly who they are and secondly not agree....but thats fine

    i personally think people forget pop...means popular, not bubble gum britney stuff, and i think people dont like to admit they like pop, on of my favourite songs i flying without wings, by westlife....now most people wouldnt have the guts to admit that, but i dont care, i can also admit that i love hermans hermits, the drifters and gerry and the pacemakers, most people my ages havent heard of them.

    stop being so hard on emos, yes they look a bit silly with their long fringes, but they are as equally entitled so listen to what they want to and dress how they want to, as much as the next person is, and you will probably be supirsed to know that i bet they secretly listen to westlife

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  317. At 03:24 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Mike wrote:

    Much as I love most forms of music, I don't like Emo as to me its just a whingy watered down immitation of punk..

    That said, I've not got anything against people who like Emo as long as they're not forcing it on me, and at least it doesn't seek to propagate violent and selfish ideals and behaviour as with other genres such as "RnB".

    As I don't go out of my way to listen to EMO the stuff I've heard is probably quite mainstream anyway, and we all know how the "pop" influence can dilute and ruin any genre, as has happened over the years with house, trance, dnb, garage..

    As for the Daily Mail article, its your usual attempt to generate yet another "our children are causing the world to implode" moral panic to sell papers to paranoid, out of touch middle class parents. True to form its yet another example of the typically un-informed and bigoted toss the mail churns out daily.

    If it wasn't EMO it'd be the internet, or any other form of new technology or youth culture their decrepet right wing scaremongers have niether experienced nor understand.

    Anyone else remember the article they published some time ago about the dangers of ever stronger strains of "Super skank" cannabis?

    Ffs, my cat could write a more engaging and technically proficient piece.

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  318. At 03:40 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Joheed and Cambria wrote:

    I know I only posted about an half hour ago but I was reading other posts and I liked what some people had said.

    The self harm thing? Now when has this ever been emo, I have stressed this point many a time. Anyone who is anyone can do self harm. It's not an emo thing, never has been. It is a teenage angst thing to help them get over whatever it is they need to get over. I have never done this and I think it's ridiculous.

    Black eyeliner?! This is a goth thing, not an emo thing. Maybe a scene thing but that's not emo/post hardcore. You wouldn't catch Geoff Rickley or Chris Carrabba with eyeliner but you might catch Gerard Way who, yes is a goth.
    Emo has been here for many years, and will always be here. As Busted and McFly are obviously fans of emotional hardcore, then they're style is of course, going to be copied across the country as they are/were popular bands. Then fans of Busted/McFly will find out about these rock bands and then they will get popular. That's how this has happened, it's not a bad thing.

    As I'm at work I cannot access many websites and I cannot view this Daily Mail report but as far as I have gathered from other peoples reviews, it sounds a bit of a joke. Of course, MCR will not cause kids to self harm themselves. Someone mentioned earlier about Marilyn Manson was to blame for Columbine, yeah right! F.Y.I the bands the 2 Columbine students listened to were Prodigy, Rammstein and KMFDM (I think thats them, god knows) so how did Marilyn Manson tell them to do it. Emo music doesn't make you depressed - end of story.

    We have so many more worse idols for kids/teenagers then My Chemical Romance like Pussycat Dolls, who promote sex and do stripper routines in there music videos, that's not a good thing for a 13 year old girl now is it? Or what about 50 Cent, bragging how he got shot 9 times making it cool? That isn't is it? Gangsta rap promotes violence, ho's and gun crime and of course no-one seems to have a problem, then My Chemical Romance come up with a number 1 pop rock tune and suddenly they're all a bunch of sicko's because they write about depressing subjects like heartbreak and loss of a loved one.

    Like I said earlier, I'm all for emo. Just when it's real and true. MCR are not emo but they get lumped into there. On the other hand I think it's good MCR are number one because hopefully, we can have more popular rock acts (Kasabian, Oasis, Razorlight don't count) floating around which will make the radio and music stations more varied. I'd rather have the charts filled with Fall Out Boy and Panic! At The Disco who have been bands for a number of years and had to work hard and tour to get recognised then 'artists' such as Girls Aloud, 50 Cent and Pussycat Dolls.

    Thanks Again

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  319. At 03:44 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Becca wrote:

    To be honest 'emo' now has nothing to do with music.
    Bands like My Chemical Romance who don't fit into indie or metal or rock are just all classed as 'emo', for example Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance are both classed as 'emo' yet if you listen to their music it is totally different, so how can it be in the genre?
    The whole emo thing is now based on how people dress.. and is no longer related to music.

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  320. At 03:47 PM on 22 Oct 2006, martin wrote:

    Okay listen, im emo i love it i have seeing chavs taking the mick because people like dressing how they like so what if its a fashon now but think about it havent there always been this constant rivalry between the non conformists and chavs its stuped. and for the record "Emo" music is 'hawhtonre heights', 'Funeral for a friend', 'taking back sunday'.

    this whole thing about emo kids is just dumb i think we should take a leaf out of john lennons book give peace a chance whats come to this world its just pathetic.

    The world nowadays is boring same old "look an emo kid" woooo its not an insult so all the "chavs" we dont have a problem with you so leave us all alone and shut up.(they look like twats with there socks tucked into there tracksuit bottoms.)

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  321. At 03:49 PM on 22 Oct 2006, lol wrote:

    I was at this year's Reading festival and I was absolutley disgusted with the way Panic!at the disco were treated because they are classed as 'emo'. If any of these so called 'Emo haters' actually stopped and listened to the lyrics of this band they will see that they are not even slightly emo, most of them are actually very upbeat, as are Brendon and co's stage show. So why are they being classed as Emo? oh yes because they have fringes and wear skinny jeans. As a 20 year old girl I have liked 'Emo' music for some years now, and not because of the fashions or conatations that go with the genre, but because I like the music and the clever lyrics which i have to say are a million times better written than most indie bands could dream of. Which takes me to my next point, dont the majority of 'Indie kids' dress the same? Yes, there are thousands of Johnny Borrells walking around thinking that they look different and original. Each genre of music has a dresscode and one is no more superior than the other. With the emergance of 'new rave' thanks to the Klaxons expect an army of neon clad kids roaming around, will they be slated in the daily mail for their encouragement of drug use? probably not.

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  322. At 03:52 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Joheed and Cambria wrote:

    KURT COBAIN - Emo legend?! Ha ha! Funniest thing ever! How is he? Emo legends are -

    Ian McKaye
    Morrissey
    Robert Smith
    Cedric Bixlar
    Rivers Cuamo

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  323. At 03:57 PM on 22 Oct 2006, slipp wrote:

    another media invented music trend, designed so they can build it up the destroy it just as quick.

    This so called emotional music has all been done before and much better. Anyone remember The Smiths.

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  324. At 04:06 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Ane' wrote:

    i understand liking a 'look'; but emos are practically glorified transvestites, the men look ridiculous in those mobility-impairing trousers!

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  325. At 04:15 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Jon wrote:

    I recon we should put the editor in a sealed room and play hatesphere and Hatebreed at them!!! See how they like my fav type of music.

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  326. At 04:15 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Shan wrote:

    I think that it doesn't matter about the label, you can dress how you want and look what you want to look like. I dont see why people bully because of your "label". And not all emo's cut there wrists or self harm, people say that cause it gets to some emos. I have nothing wrong with emos they rock :)

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  327. At 04:16 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Angi wrote:

    It's up to emos what they want to do but I'm not emo and i absolutely love Welcome to the black parade

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  328. At 04:17 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Lord Isaac wrote:

    Why is it bad 2 be an emo?
    My Chemical Romance might be emos but wots rong with it?


    dere still sick tho!

    Isaac 12

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  329. At 04:28 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Rachael wrote:

    To be honest i dont really mind what music people listen to, each to their own i say! However, i must say some 'emos' are really disrespectful to other types of music. Being a really big pop fan ( i know it is quite sad) i have to admit that some emos tend to be abit judemental! They think im abit stupid because i listen to girls aloud. So i think all emos should stop doing the whole double standards thing, everyone needs to just accept that differnet people like different things! :)

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  330. At 04:28 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Afk wrote:

    It's all really pathetic to be honset, i mean, fair enough to all them 'emos' which have always acted, dressed and listened to the music they liked, but most of you 'emos' out there are just following a fashion, and thats all it is, a fashion, so its gunna go as quick as it came.

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  331. At 04:37 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Heather wrote:

    Emo's are just tennagers who express themselves. I should know since I am one. One day I was on a school trip and I came wearing black jeans and the usual stuff I'd wear. People looke at me as if I was a freak? What the hell is the problem? I'm going through a hard time trying to find myself and emo music really hepls. I feel free when I listen to it and I have no idea why. So get lost even if I'm not like this forever it's who I am at present and it feels good to be me! Who are you to judge me. Everyone probably belongs in a clique so why does mine get so badly treated??????

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  332. At 04:40 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Emma. wrote:

    Who care's whether someone is emo or not. I hate stereo-typing, and the fact people need to do it. The whole 'emo' thing has got out of hand when it started off to be something completely as it is today. And also Emo stands for emotional, therefore it is not dress sense.. or emo bands or whatever.
    Bands such as MCR are not emo, yes, I might not like them, but I'm not gonna go around saying they're emo because I don't listen to them and I'm a labeller, because I'm not.
    And the whole stereot-type has been taken out of proportion too, and anyone seen wearing black is emo.
    People just need to grow up, stop labelling and realise there are more important things happening in the world instead of going round calling each other emo.

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  333. At 04:47 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Calum wrote:

    My first point is that people are too quick to stereotype! They are frightened of anything that they don't understand and can't relate to instantly. This "EMO" thing is just another stereotype. Hardly anyone who calls themselves an EMO cuts themselves and is constantly depressed. If they do then they are obviously mentally ill and should be helped, not outcast! I wouldn't call myself an EMO but I do like My Chemical Romance and various other rock bands like them.
    My second point is, so what if MCR got to number 1! If you ask me it's better than another intolerable dance track or any of that tribal R&B rubbish!

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  334. At 04:49 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Ed Fry wrote:

    "Many of the alluring women of our time - Nigella Lawson, Debbie Harry, Chrissie Hynde, Sophie Ellis Bextor, Lily Allen - have a touch of the Goth about them"

    Sums up just how ill-informed the article is. All those women that "the kids" hold in such high regard. When dod you last hear anyone under the age of 25 raving about Nigella Lawson!?

    I couldn't care less what people choose to dress like or act like but the idea that wearing a particular type of clothing automatically subscribes you to a belief system and a way of life is ridiculous. Once again it's sensationalist and irresponsible journalism. There will always be people that self-harm, take drugs, etc and it is very rarely the music that people listen to that drives those choices.

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  335. At 04:49 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Calum wrote:

    Oh, and one more thing! It's only music for God sake! Get over yourselves!

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  336. At 04:50 PM on 22 Oct 2006, nikki wrote:

    emo is just a random saying that is being miss used by alot of people.
    but i personally see emo as a good sence of music and style.
    i listen to emo music and some might say i dress like 1 too
    but i just see moi as moi
    so there we go
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  337. At 04:51 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Sabrina wrote:

    Emo is a fashion statment and music genre. I personal things 'emo' is no threatening one bit.
    I have many 'emo' friends and they are not 'depressed' or anything like that.
    As for the band MCR, they dont class themselves as 'emo' they dont lablem themselves at all. And I love the band.

    Emo is just a harmless lable given to kids, for the way they dress. Nothing bad comes from it.
    All these articals saying 'emo' is theatening and parents should be worried, is stupid and a waste of time.

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  338. At 04:51 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Mike wrote:

    Much as I love most forms of music, I don't like Emo as to me its just a whingy watered down immitation of punk..

    That said, I've not got anything against people who like Emo as long as they're not forcing it on me, and at least it doesn't seek to propagate violent and selfish ideals and behaviour as with other genres such as "RnB".

    As I don't go out of my way to listen to EMO the stuff I've heard is probably quite mainstream anyway, and we all know how the "pop" influence can dilute and ruin any genre, as has happened over the years with house, trance, dnb, garage..

    As for the Daily Mail article, its your usual attempt to generate yet another "our children are causing the world to implode" moral panic to sell papers to paranoid, out of touch middle class parents. True to form its yet another example of the typically un-informed and bigoted toss the mail churns out daily.

    If it wasn't EMO it'd be the internet, or any other form of new technology or youth culture their decrepet right wing scaremongers have niether experienced nor understand.

    Anyone else remember the article they published some time ago about the dangers of ever stronger strains of "Super skank" cannabis?

    Ffs, my cat could write a more engaging and technically proficient piece.

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  339. At 04:53 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Catherine Bailey wrote:

    I think that EMO is weird! The music is just shouting and the fashion sense is just disgusting! i'm getting annoyed about it all and i'm only 12! I hate EMOS!

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  340. At 04:54 PM on 22 Oct 2006, miba wrote:

    That article is just one big joke for news! It makes laugh! In actual fact this whole debate makes me laugh! Kids into a craze are always like this, right from hippys (if not before) to the original punk scene and so many more. As for the scars on their arms I can remember when I was a kid in the grunge scene friends did that then, some for attention, some to look cool (they will regret it!) and yes some because they have serious problems. We all have been into scenes and still are, its what creates friendships and those good memorys we look back on when we are kids. I ask all those who were into Pearl Jam in 1994, how many of you went to the charity shop got the great grunge look and sat around looking woefull listening to 'Black'. That was my scene and god didnt parents worry and articles appear then. Its always the same. Let the kids to what they want, its caracter building.

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  341. At 04:57 PM on 22 Oct 2006, jane wrote:

    the only ppl who call my type emos r chavs n id rather b a emo that a chav!!

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  342. At 04:59 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Salema wrote:

    I am 16 and live in Norwich, there are a few types of style for teenagers and Emo seems to be one of the most popular.
    Personally i think it looks extreemly unattractive and the majority of the people who adopt this style are about 14, and just ebing immature, they will grow out of it and realise how pathetic they look and seem.
    I am not an emo, and never will be, but i have self hrmed in the past, i think it's wrong to attatch the lable emo to anyone who self harms.

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  343. At 05:03 PM on 22 Oct 2006, luke orford wrote:

    i dont have a problem with emo music, its the peoples attitude who listen to it i have a problem with. I will quite happyily listen to old emo bands that are out such as finch but newer bands are basically saying you got to be depressed and hate your parents . Emo bands nowadays think they can change peoples opinions. Also it is a spesific age group that listens to it most, which is middle teens i have very rarely seen an emo over the age of 21 - 22. EMO's say there different because they listen to this music saying its emotional but to be fair isnt all music emotional, have you sat down and listen to a chilli peppers song or a feeder song which sing about loss and they make it sound good because they dont sing about it all the time. EMO atitude is the problem not the music!!!!!!!!!!!

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  344. At 05:12 PM on 22 Oct 2006, chloe wrote:

    im emo. so what? get over it. i did self harm, but have come out of depression now. how can you judge ALL emos, you don't know whats going on in their life, do you?

    people last week looked at me like I was a freak or something, the tears pouring out of my eyes, the cuts, the bangles and the tight black jeans. they had no idea that one of m best friends had commited suicide becaus of some stupid preppy jocks, did they? but they still sneered fag and cutter at me anyway!

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  345. At 05:17 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Lisa wrote:

    i supose you are perseved as what you set out to be (if that makes sense) and from interviews, and the music itself i'd say they aren't emo at all, and i thinks it's quite harsh 'labelling' musicans, for expressing themselves, i'd say they were different, i've heard nothing like them before, and i flipping love it! hehe, hmm yeah x

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  346. At 05:18 PM on 22 Oct 2006, E wrote:

    So, the Daily Mail reckon bands like My Chemical Romance and Panic! At the Disco “encourage” their listeners to self-harm? How ignorant is that? It shows more ignorance around self-harm than anything else. How insulting to people who do self-harm because they have a genuine problem? Self-harm isn’t a fashion trend, something you do because your mates all do it, it’s an illness.

    I listen to loads of supposed “emo” bands, it’s not done me any harm. I also listen to metal, punk rock, and other genres and don’t particularly want to be pigeonholed. I’m a fan of My Chemical Romance, and I have never once heard them encourage anyone to self-harm. I have heard them encourage their fans to talk to someone if they’re depressed. Maybe the people who bottled them at Reading are the ones who deserve to be criticised, for inciting violence at music festivals??

    I think people, like “journalists” from the Daily Mail, should get their facts straight before they write such rubbish, and I hope that not everyone believes what they read in newspapers.

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  347. At 05:19 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Matt wrote:

    I'm not an emo but I disagree with the stereotyping going on at the moment. Just because you where certain clothes or listen to certain music doesn't mean you hate the world and want to kill yourself.

    I hate the way anyone who doesn't like or understand rock music quickly uses words such as goth, greb and emo to describe those who do. Ok, there are some people who are emo and open about it but if people took a moment to look closer at the young people they are branding, they would find a wide variety of different tastes and beliefs.

    Nowadays there is such a diversity of youth culture that to label so many different people under one stereotype shows the distinct lack of understanding and negativity towards young people in our society.

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  348. At 05:22 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alix Roberts wrote:

    I think emo musics really good, im not emo but i have nothing against them, i know people who are emos and theyre really nice, they make really great music that isnt chavvy and horrible and its just good, im going to see lost prophets in novemeber and my chemical romance in march and i cant wait!

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  349. At 05:25 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Lauren wrote:

    My Chemical Romance, has nothing to do, with the slitting wrists, and 'emo cult' which the Daily Mail has written about, as a My Chemical Romance fan I know they are not promoting Self Harm, and I do believe that 'Emo' kids are having a hard time, and I will defend their rights as many people who are classified as Emo do not self harm. These labels e.g. Chav, emo, Greebo, Goth are not needed as everyone is their own person. What really gets me is how people persecute bands like My Chemical Romance for 'Brainwashing' kids into the 'emo cult', when they don't know anything about the subject at hand. Get some evidence before you prosecute innocent teenagers.
    Maybe if you listened to some My Chemical Romance you would understand, that they ARE NOT promoting self-harm. For example, Helena is a Tribute, to Gerard, and Mikeys (lead singer and Bassist) Grandmother, saying goodbye, does that sound like it is promoting self harm.

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  350. At 05:27 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Carly wrote:

    If you want "emo" come round to my house. Bills up to my eyes screaming kids and a stressful job. How much more "emo" do you want it to get?

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  351. At 05:31 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Emma wrote:

    i think that the article written in the daily mail was appalling. what, just because someone dyes their hair dark and wears band tees it means they are suicidal? although i am not as much as some, i dress "emo" the majority of the time and i listen to my chem and the other steriotyped bands, and i have never contemplated self-harm of any kind. and that article also places some blame ON my chemical romance for causing their fan's "depression", when actually, if the writer had done any research would realise that that band have saved many of their fans with , a friend of mine included.

    I hate that people segregate people just beacuse they are "emo" and people don't like that. When I found out that Brendon Urie of Panic! At The Disco got a bottle thrown at him at reading festival, my blood boiled. Ok, so you don't like their music or don't like them cos theyre "emo" but why not just not go and watch them?????? Go to a different stage, there were plenty of them! At the end of the day, no matter what your opinion, nobody deserves that just for being who they are and playing their own music. And i would also like to point out that none of the dj's at the dance stages of the Carling festivals got bottled by emos who saw them as chavs.

    People should just leave off and let others do what they wanna do and be who they wanna be and not have a go at them because of it.

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  352. At 05:32 PM on 22 Oct 2006, s wrote:

    oh. my. gosh. why do we live in this culture where we feel we have to interfere with everything! seriously, i know a good many emos and none of them are suicidal or self-harmimg!
    its just the media being alarmist about things they dont understand!
    how a person lives their life is absolutely their concern, and should not be held open to scrutiny by others!
    its a phase, and its "cool" to be emo at the moment, i mean please, if emos were seriously a problem, why would radio one play fall out boy?

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  353. At 05:44 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Louise wrote:

    Who cares really. All you're doing is giving emo's what they want. Making them feel like they're all misunderstood and victimised. They want to be 'different' from society so give it another year or so and most of them will have stopped dressing the way they do cos it's getting too popular with little teeny 12 year olds. They'll move onto the next 'alternative' craze soon enough.

    A couple of years ago it was 'punk' when Green Day released american idiot. I love Green Day but they're not punk, they're mainstream rock. True punk was over barely 2 years after it started in London cos as soon as the masses cottoned on and started dressing like punks and listening to the music, the whole basis that punk had been founded on was being contradicted. And all those teenagers who were 'punk' a couple of years ago have slowly morphed into 'emos'.

    It's just a trend, yes it's annoying as hell being forced to listen to shit like My Chemical Romance and Panic at the Disco, but it'll pass soon enough, and at least it's better than that crap RnB craze we had to deal with before rock came back in.

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  354. At 05:46 PM on 22 Oct 2006, zoe wrote:

    i am total in love with my chemical romnace and i have been scince 2003 when they brought out their first album I am on the emo side emos rock but only tru emos not chavmos who are chavs who want to follow the crowd. XXzoeXX

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  355. At 05:49 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Anonymous wrote:

    i like my chemical romance and im not an emo and i don't want to be an emo im also not a chav as labels are stupid i just like the music my friends also like it and there also not emo's so this music should not be represented with emo's its not only emo's that like the music

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  356. At 05:50 PM on 22 Oct 2006, LOUISE IN CORNWALL wrote:

    why do we all need a tag/lable?

    i was called emo when i was at school 2 years ago for wearing my school uniform! yet the personal shouting emo at was wearing the same!

    any1 i know that is emo would just smile and laugh at the daily mail not cry and cut their arms!

    people need to wise up and just live in peace!

    we are all flesh and bone! its time to stop fighting!

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  357. At 05:58 PM on 22 Oct 2006, kish wrote:

    im a teenager. if someone is depressed people automatically call them emo.

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  358. At 05:58 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Laura wrote:

    Me and most of my friends dress emo but we aren't going round saying "ooo look at us we're emo and cut our wrists and wear black all the time" Because we dont!! We are just ordinary teenagers that like that style and that kind of music. There is nothing wrong with it. And emos dont wear black anyway!! Ok they do sometimes but not just black. They wear ripped jeans and converse or vans or something simular. They dont wear capes or anything like that! They are goths. Emos are nothing like goths!!!

    And adults should be more bothered about chavs! Chavs go round threatening everyone and think they are hard cos they go down town on a friday night and have abit of cider!! Old people are more scared of tennagers in trackys tucked in socks than teenagers walking round wearing ripped jeans and vans!

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  359. At 06:05 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Becky wrote:

    As a lot of people seem to think on here, I agree that the article in the Daily Mail was a whole load of crap to be honest.
    All they did it for was to fill up a couple of pages and try to start a panic with parents who had "emo" sons and daughters.
    But they haven't got the faintest idea of what "emo" really is.
    It isn't just these kids [who i like to think of as sheep for following the "trend"] who wear skinny black pants, dye their hair black, wear converse and too much eyeliner and listen to bands like Fall out Boy.
    Emo - in my opinion - is a type of music that expresses a persons emotions and feelings to their listeners. But it has stupidly become a term to call people like who I mentioned before.
    I don't agree with stereotypes of people so therefore I don't believe in putting people into certain categories - I don't even believe they properly exist.
    I wish everyone would stop with "The Emo Debate" and just let people listen to their own style of music that THEY like and not follow what "everyone else" likes. If you have a problem with that type of music then fine, just don't listen to it.
    For the record - I'm a big fan of MCR and get called emo a lot - you know what I do? Just laugh and think how sad they must be =].
    End of rant. Have a nice life.

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  360. At 06:14 PM on 22 Oct 2006, one wrote:

    Emo is another middle class teenage excuse for rebellion. Sorry to generalise, but its true for 3/4 of the "emo kids" who are out there. Emo just seems to have evolved from the "argh, teen angst" generation of the 90ies, and the grunge scene, except that nirvana were actually quite original... well, ish. Its another example of the past repeating itself. And sorry to the "oh noes, dont ridicule the emos, they are people too!!!" brigade, what is the problem with disliking people for their attitude? We cant all love everyone...

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  361. At 06:18 PM on 22 Oct 2006, liggy wrote:

    whats the matter with them well i am a grebs so i dont mund them.
    why dont we just leave them alone well think about the chavs

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  362. At 06:22 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Emma wrote:

    What are the daily mail on about - there is a clear difference betwwen goth's and emo's. Don't write about something you know nothing about !!!! MCR Rock & there NOT emo !!!!! I don't really think posh middle aged people from the daily mail can give there opinion on this coz there a million miles away from it !!

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  363. At 06:24 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alice wrote:

    I am an a emo and i don't think people should a have a problem with us.
    Lil Chris is an emo but no one cares, so no i think that wes hould get on with there lives and stop picking on little petty things like that ok!!!!!!!!!!!

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  364. At 06:29 PM on 22 Oct 2006, sarz wrote:

    Okay this isnt reeli about that posting put did anyone see the recent nme article with Panic! at the Disco claiming that they dont even know what "emo" is?

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  365. At 06:31 PM on 22 Oct 2006, kelly pavier wrote:

    i like the music but wouldnt class myself as an emo i dont get the image or the attitude that goes with it. i think chavs were the new skaters and now emos are the new chavs

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  366. At 06:32 PM on 22 Oct 2006, courtney wrote:

    Well
    I Think You Are Just Steroyping Teenagers as 'WannaBes'
    Which We arent.
    And Whoever Said MCR Are a POP Band Is An Absolute Idiot!
    Maybe Listen to the Lyrics sometime.
    V. Annoyed

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  367. At 06:45 PM on 22 Oct 2006, gem wrote:

    Emo kids in my town get an extreme amount of greif off people. Having been friends with people of that crowd, i found that it was mainly down to how depressed "Emo"s made themselves out to be. Most were self harmers and attention seekers for all the wrong reasons. If this is how they want to get noticed, then no wonder most people are choosing to see them as scum.

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  368. At 06:53 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Kaytee. wrote:

    Hmm.
    Well, I think that all these groups/labels are pathetic.

    So, people that like MyChemicalRomance get called Emo? Why does that happen?

    I mean, their number one for goodness sake, I highly doubt all the people that bought that single are emo, or would like to be called it.

    It's like, so people that like rock music are all labelled emo? And people that are depressed are emo? So say someone in my family had just died, does that make me emo?

    And like, so if someones smoking, does that make them a chav? UGGGHHH.

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  369. At 07:07 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Liz wrote:

    Everyone has a right to be what ever they want to be. An 'emo' is just a person who shouldn't be judged on what they look like but what sort of person they are, but most kids that dress like 'emo' only dress like it because that is the look now, and as soon as a new look comes into fashion emos will be out of the window. Emo music can be a bit depressing but MCR only look like emos there music i dont think is.

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  370. At 07:13 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Anon wrote:

    Quite Frankly I'm sick of all this sterotyping!
    I'm a girl, I've got blonde hair and blue eyes I love shopping and talking to my friends but the think is i love mcr and Panic@the disco and all bands like that but i also love the feeling razorlight and high school musical! Before the music i told you i would listen to you'd mostly likely had me down as a "plastic" but now i bet it's "emo" just stop with the sterotyping and that article in the daily mail is complete rubbish why do people have to make up so much rubbish! Get lives seriously!

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  371. At 07:23 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Charley wrote:

    Is anyone else as bored of emos as I am? Whatever happened to individualism?

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  372. At 07:29 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alex wrote:

    it's only music...

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  373. At 07:30 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Matboyslim wrote:

    Emo !?! who cares. It doesn't have a well defined sound. It all sounds like that over produced post-punk american trash that we've been force fed for the past decade. The folk that i know are into the movement are sensible folk with very ecclectic tastes which stretch further than what the stereotype suggest should be their taste.

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  374. At 07:35 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Talie wrote:

    Im stereotyped as EMO and really couldnt careless... i think that people that class other people are just sad individuals who want to make themselves feel better by 'demeaning' other people.

    MCR, totally Rule, and this is Proven by there 2 weeks at number 1

    ROCK ON MCR, EMO OR NOT!

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  375. At 07:42 PM on 22 Oct 2006, emma scott wrote:

    MEGA COMPLAINT i wuz just reading through the comments and found this and i quote from "chris" " emos r tryin 2 take over our school but there is no way us normal people wil let them" OMG! duz thiz dude realy have a clue???????? wel u knw wut "chris" i think they should take over oh and what do u mean by" Normal " eh? BOARING or NO STYLE or NOT INDIVIDUAL AT ALL ! who r u to define wut normal is anyway and why the hell wud u want 2 b normal AND if ur going to insult someone DO IT PROPERLY >>>>>EMO IS A TYPE OF MUSIC NOT A PERSON!!!!! xxx

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  376. At 07:52 PM on 22 Oct 2006, *busy* wrote:

    My Chemical Romance are not emo, perhaps some songs on Revenge had emo tendencies, and yes they have been seen in a lot of black eye make up, but their new album The Black Parade, including the first single from it, is really just rock in the old pop sense, not emo not punk and not metal, just pop/arean rock. Now if you want an example of emo may I direct you to Hawthorne Heights, and their quintessentially emo song 'Ohio is for lovers', now google that and tell me My Chemical Romance are emo!

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  377. At 07:53 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Jim wrote:

    EMO is just a fad.
    it will die when Chinese Democracy finally lands in november. GN'R to reprise their rock crown!
    MCR are more classic rock now anyway, and that makes them alright in my book.

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  378. At 08:05 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Jen wrote:

    I wouldn't class My Chemical Romance as emo.

    Dashboard Confessional, Bright Eyes, Brand New - they are emo bands.

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  379. At 08:05 PM on 22 Oct 2006, lexi wrote:

    i listen to emo music, everyday when i go to school i get people yelling "emo" and "grom" and stuff like that at me.
    it doesnt make me feel differently towards the music i like to listen to though, when people listen to pop music they dont get names shouted at them so why should it happen to people who listen to one type of music?
    people shuddnt get labeled for what they wear, what music they listen to or what they like to do....
    my chemical romance are a great band what ever type of music they are, leave them alone!!!

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  380. At 08:07 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Hannah wrote:

    It is a known fact in some places that chavs are in a constant war with emos. Emo is a very stereotypical name. I like the style of so caled "emos" and their music. S o apparently i am an emo according to most of my school. I dont care to be honest. Its my style, and its what i choose to do. Why does everyone have to be classed as an emo or chav anyway???

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  381. At 08:12 PM on 22 Oct 2006, eirinn doherty wrote:

    i think some emo music is ok, and yes i think that kids who like emo have been stereotyped way to quickly, its up to them how they dress and what music they listen to, no one else gets a hard time, leave emo kids alone!

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  382. At 08:16 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Danielle Allen wrote:

    hi my names danielle and i live in linslade/ leightion buzzard i listen to a lot of emo music coz i am a emo myself yes i am given a very hard time coz people are always sayin that we r realy depressing and that we always slit our wrists wtis is not true i hardly ever slit mine and i am also quite a happy person most of the time. so wot black is a very cool colour dont dis black i were it all the time. yh i think emo ppl r closer together emo and grebs r very close together ITS CHAVES THAT SHOULD BE BANED FOR EVER HAHAHAHAH
    :-) LOVE DANIELLE XxXxXxXxXxXxXX

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  383. At 08:18 PM on 22 Oct 2006, TJ wrote:

    Emo has become a ridculous stereotype or kids with fringes and tight jeans and if a musician dresses like this its the music thats emo apparently. Thats rubbish! Music is about someone expressing how they feel and fashion is completly different to that.
    I forgot that music should or can be done to get across how you feel about something and that if you happen to be depressed its wrong to write it in a song according to some bands ie Kasabian. Im a fan of there music but what gives them the right to say that so called "emo" bands arent allowed to express that kind of feeling in music.
    Music would be boring if it was all happy anyway

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  384. At 08:29 PM on 22 Oct 2006, January wrote:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMvMzQ4Vu-8

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  385. At 08:32 PM on 22 Oct 2006, lauren wrote:

    Honestly I don't see what the fuss is about, EMO is just another fashion, a phase, a young obsession. It's like any time, there will fashion crazes which take over for example in the 60s there were the mods and the rockers. In time the phase will die down and another craze will take over. But honestly i really don't see what all the fuss is about.

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  386. At 08:32 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Kirsty wrote:

    i tink emos rock!! im emo and proud!!!

    EMO THE WAY FORWARD!!!!!!!

    kirsty xx

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  387. At 08:34 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Hayyley Wilkinson wrote:

    Whats the big deal with people listing to EMO music , Its like geting on peoples back for listing to 50 Cent or whatever. What does that do for people, tell everyone to go shooting each other and to get laid everyother night. I love emo music , It talks about actual experienceses in life and not gangsta paridise you only witness in certan countries. Stop making a big thing of it and let people dress how they want and listen to what they want without been labeled as an emo!!

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  388. At 08:35 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Connor wrote:

    Im classed as an emo in school because i like the fashion and the music but i will never ever cut myself or think death is a good thing! When everyone thinks of emo they just see it as a kid dressed in black, sad and who cuts themself for no reason but thats not what it is!! I know emos who like poaty an dress in black with black hair but there such fun people! They dont cut there wrists or moan all the time! I just wish people would wake up and stop judging!

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  389. At 08:39 PM on 22 Oct 2006, robert taylor wrote:

    the problem is that emo's are all the same! they where black ! they think they are unique when infact they are bunch of idiots who think slitting wrists is the way of making themsleves known. Like the serg said from kasabian this emo rubbish will be out of fashion very soon!

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  390. At 09:00 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Vicky wrote:

    What is "emo" anyway? People say it refers to the term "emotional music". Cant any type of music be emotional whether it be rock, pop, dance, classical or any other type! Who cant say that they have ever been to a gig, concert, club, bar etc and not heard a peice of music that you love or it makes your hairs on your arms stand up or it sends shivers down your spine! I just think the word emo is a crap term to explain what the kids are into at the moment! Throughout the years my music tastes have varied like you wouldnt believe, I used to like boybands for gods sake! Now I listen to "emo" classed bands like MCR & Fall Out Boy and yeah I have got black hair (gene orientated by the way), wear eyeliner (doesnt most girls) and buy band t-shirts and why shouldnt I, you should be proud of what bands you like.

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  391. At 09:10 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Becca wrote:

    That article was awful. The emo song is a jokey song not to be taken seriously. Green Day and My Chemical Romance are NOT emo. Guh. Let people do what they want and wear what they want.

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  392. At 09:20 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Jess wrote:

    All this hatred towards emos i think is pointless.Why do they get such a hard time.
    I have been labelled since the new label was found. I get alot of grief for it by poeple who i think should be sticking together.
    Metallers, scene kids, emos, goths, we all seem to hate each other,..but i dont understand why., Surely we should all stick together as all of us as a groupd are hated by so many.
    Its not about the clothes you wear, the hair you have, your fringe, or what state ur wrists are in....its the reason why we are different.Its about the music. We should stick together to keep what ever genre of rock/goth/emo/screamo we like. If we dont the world would just be rap/ganster music.
    I understand that people may not like "emo" music but no need to hate the person or the band..just because their music isnt what your into.
    I am a crazy MCR fan and iwas there when they were bottled at reading..i just thought to myself.Why are they doing this..i didnt like all the bands that day but i didnt throw bottles adn ruin it for everyone who wanted to watch them.

    The stereottpical emo is actualy a very small amount...all the other emos just dress like it and listen to the music.

    It does my head in that we cant just all accept each other..why do we have to use labels in the first place.
    Everytime people name a person or a band emo..they are rarely right, and emo stands for emotional..but surely all music is emo then as music is people expressing their emotions about something.

    i dont understand why everyone hates emos so much..and they are all apparently self harmers and depressed..and i dnt really blame them for feeling a bit depressed wiht the amount of grief we go through everyday.
    Just leave us alone..let us be who we are, let us listen to our music and be what we want to be. We dont grief metal heads, or punks any grief do we. NO
    SO why should we get it

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  393. At 09:22 PM on 22 Oct 2006, sian wrote:

    Right to get one thing straight 'EMO' is what peopel lable people for listening to a certain band or wearing ceratin types of clothes or even havin a certain hair style/colour!

    to be honest it is totally pathetic and my chemical romance DO NOT promote self harming the women who wrote that article needs to be shot!

    My chemical romance are a great band, and they love their fans urgh it annoys me somuch

    STOP LABELING PEOPLE FOR THE THINGS THEY WEAR/LISTEN TO/OR HAVE THERE HAIR LIKE

    GROW UP!

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  394. At 09:23 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Alex wrote:

    why dont they just lighten up have fun and be happy instead of looking all dreary and dark. i must say the bands are rubbish. my chemical romance have no rythm and sound like everyother american band from that genre.

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  395. At 09:25 PM on 22 Oct 2006, stephanie wrote:

    emo is boys singing songs about girls and love and their parents' divorce and being miserable and sensitive and misunderstood, or even just letting an emo wail slip out when they get over-excited.

    minor threat weren't emo; if anything they were straight-edge, with ian mackaye being credited with 'inventing' the movement.

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  396. At 09:28 PM on 22 Oct 2006, ... wrote:

    How is that a problem?

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  397. At 09:29 PM on 22 Oct 2006, louise wrote:

    how come MCR were always refered to as punk, but now all of a sudden they're emo? People think emo is a new term but it was entered into the Oxford English Dictionary about three years ago. I can't say i'm a fan - I'm more of a metal girl myself - but i wish people would be more consistant in their stereotyping, if they really have to stereotype at all.

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  398. At 09:30 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Rache wrote:

    I am okay with 'emo' style because i got some close mates who are going for the whole 'emo' style but i am totaly opposite!You could say dat i am da 'chav' type but i dont mind being told that i am a chav!I dont see the point in saying that they self harm etc because my mates dont!Some people dont like being stereo-typed so i wish people wouldnt do it!Even if they are emo or chav or goth or anything else!People who stereo-type...i reckon arnt please with there own life so they try to upset others!

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  399. At 09:30 PM on 22 Oct 2006, james (the greebo) bailey wrote:

    im sorry to get involved being a greebo, but most emos find this a fasion, i self harm, im suicidal but im not a friging emo, please stop with this emo stuff, its simple i could piss more depressive stuff than the new age of "emo"

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  400. At 09:31 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Pete wrote:

    hey.. i'm not one for steriotypes but I AM EMOtional, i only know of three others in my area like me.. so its not like i'm following a fad. Its who i am.

    I do wear black, because i like the colour, if you can call it a colour, i've loved black since i was a little kid. Basically i wear my black metallica hoodie out everywhere and go skate xD

    As of the debate for MCR, there is no doubting that their music applys to the emo generation. I think that while not being emo themselves. yelling I'M NOT OKAY! is seen to be emo in some ways.

    People who believe in the steriotypes like "All emos cut themselves" are just plain dumb...

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  401. At 09:31 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Emily Portch wrote:

    Hi RADIO 1 Crew! I Love You all so much i listen to your show everyday.!!!!

    I'm 14 and i'm from Hornchurch in Essex... I dont understand this debate. Why do we have to label people with a stereotypical word all the time. kids in my school get bullied for being apparently 'emo'. ! also i dont like this whole 'emo cutting themselves buisness' .. i have 'emo' friends and they don't n do that so i dont have a clue where that came from. Just be individual people, dont follow fashions or music trends! wear what you like, listen to what you like and be who you want to be!!!

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  402. At 09:35 PM on 22 Oct 2006, TheOzzy wrote:

    Emo so what!! Ever heard of the saying doesnt matter whats on the outside its what on the inside. Self harm happens all the time in the younge youth not all EMO. I think Emo Lassies are hottt : )
    I love Emo Music!! Just hate the tight jean thing.

    Peace Ozzy

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  403. At 09:35 PM on 22 Oct 2006, sammy boi wrote:

    every 1 thinks my friend is a emo because she lyks 2 dress in black her favourite colours are black and red and she likes green day, my chemical romance and bands like that she doesnt self harm nut even if she was emo i still be friends with her coz i got nothing against them even tho thers no such thing as emo ts short for emotional thats all tra hope you read this out

    sammy boi

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  404. At 09:36 PM on 22 Oct 2006, sonam wrote:

    i hate the stereotype of emos

    yeh we luka certain way but we're human

    and i hate people who immediately think of self harm when they hear the word emo

    the world needs to be more open minded about people who dont wana follow a certain trend

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  405. At 09:38 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Annie wrote:

    Can I just say that people call My chemical romance an emo band, but emos don't actually like them, they think that they are for wannabe emos (wemos). Chavs hate emos and emos hate chavs, I think its all very stereotypical. Not all emos slit their wrists, some do, but some chavs do....

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  406. At 09:38 PM on 22 Oct 2006, sonam wrote:

    i hate the stereotype of emos

    yeh we luka certain way but we're human

    and i hate people who immediately think of self harm when they hear the word emo

    the world needs to be more open minded about people who dont wana follow a certain trend

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  407. At 09:39 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Natalie wrote:

    Say NO to emo!

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  408. At 09:40 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Lex wrote:

    ok i am absolutly sick of people being attacked for the way they dress and the music that they listen to. it is absolutly pointless. lables are stupid and just another eason for people to be prejudiced towards other people. i believe that all labels are wrong because in the area that i live in it is used to create fights between different 'labels'. to quote simle plan lyrics "is everybody going crazy?". the way that the media generalises people into one bracket. i might not be an emo myslef but lots of my friends are and i can safely say none of them have ever self harmed and actualy have a genuine interest in 'emo' bands. (also the person who wrote this article and said that my chemical romance are emo should be shot.... end of)

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  409. At 09:41 PM on 22 Oct 2006, simon wrote:

    I dont understand y ppl are moanin abt emos and sayin it scaryin ppl at skool ?
    wt abt kids that wnt 2 be wannbe ganstar,
    listen 2 music abt sex,drugs,drink n how kl it is doin it and shootin ppl.
    with emo its hw the world is like abt wt the bad things goin on n hw love cn hurt.
    i no loads of emos and they dnt self harm
    so the hell did ppl get if ur emo u self harm???

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  410. At 09:47 PM on 22 Oct 2006, joe from london wrote:

    at my school i get called an emo (but my school is totally chav) just coz i like and wear tight black skinny jeans and tight t shirts but i like death metal music and have never ever cut myself its not fair i get put in to this group even though i have nothing againsted emos. people just need to stop judgin people by what they wear its not fair that artical is a load of bull crap

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  411. At 09:50 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Rosie Myers wrote:

    Why do people get labbelled for the way they dress?
    there are so many labels- chavs grungers emos towines skaters indies
    so9 what if people dress eccentrically its that eccentricity that makes up who we are and makes up bnritain i'm think people shouldn't be afraid that they'd get labbelled if they did or wore somthing or dyed their hair a different colour or listened to different music because its those little stand outs that make you you!

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  412. At 09:51 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Ollie wrote:

    i dont see what every ones problem is with Emo's they are nicer people than Chav's, and most of their music is better.

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  413. At 09:53 PM on 22 Oct 2006, clare wrote:

    Why is everyone making a big fuss about 'emo' kids, it's not like it's effecting us is it?
    It's there choice it's like them making a fashoin statment don't you think.
    I used to be an emo, i used to get horrid stares of people but at the end of the day, it's your decision, who cares what orther people think?
    its your dicision.

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  414. At 09:54 PM on 22 Oct 2006, Emma W wrote:

    Ok...im 15 and live in Herts...and in hitchin there is a HUGE music scene...especially "emos"

    now if you ask me you get 2 types the "young ones" who really are doing it for all the right reasons...the fashion...and the "fitting in" thing...

    but then you get the older emos of 16+ who dont like panic! dont like mcr and are "rebels" they get drunk on cheap wine run around their town pissed out of their faces and get with peopl eof the same sex regardless of their sexuality...the only thing i dont like about the emo scence is the BEHAVIOUR! the music isnt "my thing" and i quite like the fashion but this going out and getting paralytic is stupid!!! in hitchin they have "emo hill" and "emo lake" which are notorious with the riot police and have become famous "date rape" spots...

    they also do hardcore dancing which is violent and oathetic as someone who regualrly goes to gigs in hitchin i ALWAYS see people getting kikced out of venues for being too violent while doing it...its stupid and not needed!!!!!!!!!!!



    so forget the fahsion and music the problem now is the bahaviour which comes with!

    Emma in Stevenage...

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