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Nico Rosberg - classic F1 2011

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Andrew Benson | 06:00 UK time, Wednesday, 22 June 2011

Nico Rosberg is the latest grand prix driver to select his five favourite all-time races for our classic Formula 1 series.

As regular readers will know, BBC Sport is serialising the F1 drivers' choices before every race this season to whet your appetites for the action to come. Highlights will be shown on this website and the red button on BBC television in the UK.

Rosberg, who is for the second season in a row putting F1 legend Michael Schumacher firmly in the shade at Mercedes, is the first driver so far this season to choose races only because of their status as all-time classics, with not one of his own making the list. Although the German took part in one of his selected events, he has chosen it for reasons that have nothing to do with himself.

In chronological order, Rosberg's choices are as follows:

The 1985 South African Grand Prix, which featured a memorable performance from Rosberg's father Keke. He finished second to Williams team-mate Nigel Mansell, but was at least as impressive as the Englishman on the day.

The 1987 British Grand Prix and Mansell's famous fightback to win, when he made up 30 seconds on team-mate Nelson Piquet and pulled off one of the great passing moves to overtake the Brazilian and win the race.

The 1997 European Grand Prix, when Schumacher notoriously - and unsuccessfully - tried to take out Jacques Villeneuve's Williams as they were battling for the world title at the final race of the season.

The 2000 Belgian Grand Prix, featuring the famous all-time classic overtaking move by McLaren's Mika Hakkinen on Schumacher.

The 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix, when Lewis Hamilton, a former team-mate of Rosberg in the lower categories, snatched the world title with an overtaking move on the final corner of the final lap.

Regular readers of this feature will know that we pick one of the driver's choices to offer special treatment, and in this case we have plumped for the 1985 South African Grand Prix.

This choice was made partly because it an excellent race that has been somewhat overlooked, and also because the tape we were given of the 1997 European Grand Prix, which was covered by ITV, has a significant proportion of the race missing, so we are unable to provide highlights of that event.

I was intrigued as to why Rosberg chose the 1985 race at the brilliant original Kyalami circuit. After all, his father had many career highlights and this was a race he did not win - whereas he took stunning victories in Monaco 1983 and Dallas 1984 and starred in many other superb grands prix.

Clearly Nico was not old enough to have watched any of his dad's races live and remember them - he was just coming up for four months old at the time Keke was racing in Kyalami, and the elder Rosberg retired from F1 for good at the end of the following season, when Nico was a year and a half old.

So I asked Nico why he had plumped for that race above all.

"Because it was fun to see my dad beyond all limits," he said, pointing out that he had watched it on a video.

Keke in extremis, you mean, I said.

"Yeah. Fun, eh?"

Indeed it was. And Nico is right - it was one of Keke Rosberg's greatest drives.

Fresh from being beaten by Mansell at the European Grand Prix at Brands Hatch, Rosberg qualified third in South Africa behind the Englishman and Piquet's Brabham-BMW, paying generous tribute to his team-mate's lap afterwards.

"I wonder if McLaren are beginning to think they've signed the wrong Williams driver," he joked.

Rosberg dropped to sixth at the end of the first lap, but quickly climbed through the field and took the lead from Mansell heading into lap nine, after the Englishman waved him through on the pit straight because the Finn was at that stage of the race using more turbo boost pressure than his team-mate.

Unfortunately for Rosberg, he had chosen the wrong moment to lead the race. It meant that on the very next lap he was the first to come across an oil slick dropped by the Toleman of Piercarlo Ghinzani. With no warning from the marshals that the track was slippery, Rosberg spun into the sandy outfield.

Mansell, not far behind his team-mate, had just enough warning to slow down and he managed to stay on the track. He survived his own scary moment and skated into the lead, leaving Rosberg to rejoin in sixth place in his sand-covered car.

As Mansell cruised off to a comfortable win, his second in succession following his breakthrough maiden victory at the previous race, Rosberg fought superbly back through the field to finish second.

You will find the full 'Grand Prix' highlights programme from the day of the race embedded below. Beneath it are links to long and short highlights of last year's European Grand Prix in Valencia, which featured Mark Webber's terrifying somersault, from which the Australian was fortunate to escape unscathed.

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On the subject of the BBC broadcast of the 1985 South African race, there is an interesting story to tell.

As usual, the commentary team was Murray Walker and James Hunt. They were calling the race from a studio in London - and although this was quite common back then at far-flung races, it was not communicated to the audience. Practices were very different 26 years ago.

Hunt had very strong views on apartheid, which was still nine years away from ending in South Africa, and during the live broadcast he suddenly launched into a withering attack on the evils of the system and the South African government.

As I'm sure you are aware, the BBC is very careful not to stray into political comment in a sports broadcast, however commonplace and justifiable the views expressed might be. So the producer Mark Wilkin - now the BBC's F1 editor - handed Hunt a note which read: "Talk about the race!"

At which point, Hunt said: "Anyway, thank goodness we are not actually there."

The arrangements for these races on the BBC red button in the UK are as follows:

Extended highlights of South Africa '85, short highlights of Britain '87, Belgium 2000 and Brazil 2008 and extended highlights of the 2010 European Grand Prix will be broadcast on satellite and cable from 2000 BST on Wednesday 22 June until 1145 BST on Thursday 23 June, and again from 2000 BST on Thursday 23 June until 0845 BST on Friday 24 June.

Unfortunately, a lack of bandwidth because of Wimbledon means we are unable to broadcast these highlights on Freeview.

UPDATE, 1700 BST:

We have managed to free up some space on Freeview to show classic F1. It will now be shown on the BBC red button between first and second practice on Friday 24 June, ie from 1035 to 1200 BST.

Comments

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  • Comment number 1.

    How can you possibly say that Rosberg is putting Schumacher 'firmly in the shade' this season - they're level on points after seven races (nearly half of a F1 season until a few years ago!). Poor, tabloid level journalism.

  • Comment number 2.

    this probably means it will be either Lewis or Jenson for the British GP

  • Comment number 3.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 4.

    I don't know about anybody else, but I am getting fed up of every driver picking the 2 same races, Belgium 2000 and Brazil 2008. I know that these are both great races, but that doesn't mean that I want to see them both every 2 weeks. The BBC should edit the choices so that the viewers get a more diverse selection of races, otherwise the following 10 drivers to do this feature will probably also choose it.

    It is also annoying because both races are from the ITV era of broadcasting, so the amount of highlights available for showing is very limited. I know there is very little that can be done about this, but maybe something can be done about everyone picking the 2000 Belgian Grand Prix and the 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix.

  • Comment number 5.

    Pat-the-cat. James hunt probably doesn't have much of an opinion about the situation in SA and Zimbabwe as he died before Apartheid ended!

  • Comment number 6.

    4. At 08:35 22nd Jun 2011, Simon Davies wrote:
    I don't know about anybody else, but I am getting fed up of every driver picking the 2 same races, Belgium 2000 and Brazil 2008.

    =====================================

    That's a shame. Maybe we should tell the drivers what has already been chosen and they have to pick from the rest? Then, at the end of the season, we can have Jarno Trulli picking such classics as Bahrain 2010.

    I genuinely don't see the problem with drivers picking races that have already been chosen. So what? That is bound to happen, but is part and parcel of the feature. And as for having the BBC edit the choices, I don't see how that is fair and wouldn't tell us much about the driver. "Sorry Nico, you picked Brazil and Belgium but we've shown those so your new choices are X and Y, despite the fact they weren't on your list and you probably don't care about them".

  • Comment number 7.

    Oh, and totally agree with post #1! Seven races in and level on points is hardly putting him in the shade!

  • Comment number 8.

    Nice one Pat-the_cat. Clearly keeping up to date with the "latest" Motor Racing news. The man was never afraid to be out spoken and was well known for speaking his mind. So your criticism has demonstrated your complete ignorance. Sounds like you like to complain for the sake of it. Get your facts right in future.

  • Comment number 9.

    Brazil 2008 was a great race - but I wouldn't regard it as a classic. Glock more or less stopped his car allowing Hamilton to pass, it was not some magical overtaking move at all.

    Also - just a quick note - your article Andrew states Nico is putting Schumacher firmly in the shade this season. I think the points standings would disagree with that. Despite Schumacher not finishing 2 races he is still beating Rosberg.

  • Comment number 10.

    like others , Im getting pretty sick of the BBC's sensationalist, bias reporting, all over the site. The constant rubbish and quotes taken out of context, just to get the views. So much so, that I have gone for sky, so I can watch on Euro sport instead. The schumi roseberg comment and Hunt comments clearly demonstrate that you would be better placed editing for the Sun or the Daily Mirror. typical british media! call yourself and F1 expert Andrew. I don't think so...

  • Comment number 11.

    Also @ Pat-the-cat - not sure if you know but James Hunt is dead...

    I don't see why your going on about double standards??

  • Comment number 12.

    Knew it wouldn't be long before people picked up on the Schumacher vs Rosberg comment. You can't say anything about Schumi without having your head bitten off these days Andrew!

    Anyway, pretty good choices from Nico. The 1985 season seems curiously underrated in my opinion so it's good to see a race from that year. And I'm fairly sure that this was the last South African race on the original full-length Kyalami.

  • Comment number 13.

    Nice one teamlpg, a playboy who lived life in the fast lane on the excesses of life had an opinion, how quaint?

  • Comment number 14.

    Allowing the drivers to pick the races is just back firing. They are all, which is surely not a surprise (?!?!?), are just choosing the same races

  • Comment number 15.

    Hi all,

    Thanks for your responses so far. If I might just pick up a couple of the key themes.

    Inevitably, my remark that Rosberg is putting Schumacher firmly in the shade again this season has caused some controversy.

    I have to admit that in hindsight, perhaps it would have been better to remove the word "firmly", especially after Canada, but I would still argue that it is accurate to say Rosberg is putting Schumacher in the shade again this season.

    First of all, Rosberg continues to be ahead in qualifying - 6-1 is the current score, which is pretty comprehensive.

    I would also argue that the points table does not necessarily always reflect an accurate picture of the relative performances between drivers, especially in a team that is battling to score points and facing a number of problems.

    I know that will sound counter-intuitive, but does, for example, the fact that Nick Heidfeld outscored Robert Kubica in two of their three seasons at BMW Sauber make Heidfeld a better driver? No, of course not. It is reflective of circumstances more than performance. So, too, the points of the Mercedes drivers this year.

    Mercedes have had a tricky year, battling high tyre degradation, problems with their drs and a number of other issues. But by my reckoning, Rosberg has been demonstrably faster than Schumacher in the races in Australia, China, Turkey and Spain (where Schumacher finished ahead, but only because Rosberg could not get past after spending more or less the entire race right behind him), whereas Schumacher has been demonstrably faster than Rosberg only in Malaysia.

    At the other two races, Monaco and Canada, it has been impossible to form a fair judgement.

    In Monaco, Schumacher qualified ahead but that was heavily influenced by the fact that Rosberg saved his final qualifying lap until late in the session, after Sergio Perez's crash, when the track was slower than earlier on. He had been faster than Schumacher in Q1 and Q2. Then in the race, Schumacher ran into car problems very early on, so a pace comparison was impossible.

    In Canada, Schumacher drove very well on his way to fourth place, as I explored in detail in my blog on Monday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2011/06/in_all_the_excitement_followin.html.

    But Rosberg again had problems (too high tyre pressure on the wets and then car damage later on) which, as team boss Ross Brawn admits, again makes it impossible to say who was actually faster on that day.

    Add all that up, and it is absolutely accurate to%

  • Comment number 16.

    Hi all,

    Thanks for your responses so far. If I might just pick up a couple of the key themes.

    Inevitably, my remark that Rosberg is putting Schumacher firmly in the shade again this season has caused some controversy.

    I have to admit that in hindsight, perhaps it would have been better to remove the word "firmly", especially after Canada, but I would still argue that it is accurate to say Rosberg is putting Schumacher in the shade again this season.

    First of all, Rosberg continues to be ahead in qualifying - 6-1 is the current score, which is pretty comprehensive.

    I would also argue that the points table does not necessarily always reflect an accurate picture of the relative performances between drivers, especially in a team who are battling to score points and facing a number of problems.

    I know that will sound counter-intuitive, but does the fact that Nick Heidfeld outscored Robert Kubica in two of their three seasons at BMW Sauber make Heidfeld a better driver? No, of course not. It is reflective of circumstances more than performance. So, too, the points of the Mercedes drivers this year.

    Mercedes have had a tricky year, battling high tyre degradation, problems with their DRS and a number of other issues. But by my reckoning, Rosberg has been demonstrably faster than Schumacher in the races in Australia, China, Turkey and Spain (where Schumacher finished ahead, but only because Rosberg could not get past after spending more or less the entire race right behind him), whereas Schumacher has been demonstrably faster than Rosberg only in Malaysia.

    At the other two races, Monaco and Canada, it has been impossible to form a fair judgement.

    In Monaco, Schumacher qualified ahead but that was heavily influenced by the fact that Rosberg saved his final qualifying lap until late in the session, after Sergio Perez's crash, when the track was slower than earlier on. He had been faster than Schumacher in Q1 and Q2. Then in the race, Schumacher ran into car problems very early on, so a pace comparison was impossible.

    In Canada, Schumacher drove very well on his way to fourth place, as I explored in detail in my blog on Monday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2011/06/in_all_the_excitement_followin.html.

    But Rosberg again had problems (too high tyre pressure on the wets and then car damage later on) which, as team boss Ross Brawn admits, again makes it impossible to say who was actually faster on that day.

    Add all that up, and it is absolutely accurate to say that%2

  • Comment number 17.

    cont'd say that Rosberg is putting Schumacher in the shade this year.

    Secondly, I notice some of you are again pointing out that some of the drivers have picked the same races as each other in this classic races series. There's nothing we can do about that. They are their choices, not ours. If you don't want to watch the highlights of Brazil 2008 again, for example, then don't watch them! In the meantime, you can enjoy the new content we are providing, such as this week the full Grand Prix programme from South Africa '85.

  • Comment number 18.

    @ Reverend Frog - its not about biting anyone's head off - to say Schumacher is being firmly put in the shade is just not true. I'm not a big Schumacher fan, but I think the guy is getting a rough ride from the British press. There was no need to include that comment in the above article. The amount of stick he has got since his return has been unprecedented yet he has kept a cool head. Hamilton could learn a few lessons on how one should conduct themselves under pressure.

  • Comment number 19.

    For the record Andrew - I always enjoy the Classic F1 articles and its always interesting to see favourite races fromt he view point of an F1 driver.

  • Comment number 20.

    Who'd have thought trolls like to pat the cat?

  • Comment number 21.

    Andrew we know we don't have to watch the repeats and so we don't. We just find it frustrating that the choice becomes limited.

    Some people are just perhaps point out that the "classic race series" has now had its day

  • Comment number 22.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 23.

    @yoda401: I have admired Schumacher's composure since his comeback and his overall refusal to give up in the face of adversity, yes.

    I agree with Andrew about points tallies not necessarily being a true barometer of performance: Prost outscored Senna in both their seasons as McLaren team-mates (although the 88 title was counted on best 11 results out of 16) and yet I don't think there are too many who would rate the Frenchman more highly.

    Likewise Piquet and Mansell in 1987: Piquet finished the season as champ but anyone who watched that year was in no doubt that Mansell was kicking him.

    Let us be in no doubt that Rosberg has the edge on Schumacher. Arguing otherwise is like trying to convince oneself that Button is faster than Hamilton.

  • Comment number 24.

    Andrew,

    I guess this is a case of bad timing and nothing more.

    Should you have posted this prior to Canada, no-one would have argued but obviously after Schumi's resurgence in Montreal (much to universal delight it must be said!), everyone has jumped on you.

    I believe that Schumi has been pretty comprehensively beaten by Rosberg in 2011 so far but I think he's been closer all-round than he was last year, despite losing 6-1 in qualifying. Schumi also made the decision not to put a lap in during Q3 during one of the races (Turkey?), perhaps 5-2 would've sounded a little better.

    Anyway, my feeling is that Schumi finally showed that he's still got it in Canada and this will propel him into further success for the rest of the year. I also think that as much as Ross Brawn believes Schumi's confidence has always been high, it MUST have started to eat away a little bit inside, even if he never gave a sign.

    So, I expect a rejuvenated Michael Schumacher for the rest of 2011 and please watch him at Spa! Last year he took a grid drop after his contemptible move on Rubens but I thought he drove a brilliant race and was unlucky to lose out to Nico right at the end, which I think was partly thanks to the safety car closing things up.

    Please Schumi, delight us all again and look punchy at the business end of the field in a couple more race – I’m a huge Ferrari fan, so Alonso is my main concern these days – but seeing Schumi up the gearbox of 1st place was the most excited I’ve been in about 3 years!

  • Comment number 25.

    @ Andrew

    A quick question - do you have a page somewhere that lists ALL the classic F1's available in one place?

    I was at home the other day wishing I could go through them all - would be really useful.

    Thanks,

    Matt

  • Comment number 26.

    @16: Your defence or your earlier statement was weak the first time it was posted. Posting it a second time doesn't change that.

  • Comment number 27.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 28.

    With a couple of exceptions, Schumacher is looking like a latter-day David Coulthard, in the sense that he's a crash waiting to happen, either that or Mercedes just don't adjust his mirrors to point backwards!

  • Comment number 29.

    RE: The use of the word 'firmly'.

    I can see why Mr Benson may regret using the word and at least he has admitted as such that he would've liked to have removed it. I pressume it has not been removed from the blog as it would mean anyone coming in now would be confused by some of the posts referring to it.

    But I don't see how Rsoberg has been putting 'F1 legend Michael Schumacher' (gotta love that bit of sensationalism) in the shade for a second season in a row.

    For me Rosberg has unperformed this year when compared to last and Schumacher has got better. But the season is still young and a lot can change. I for one will not make such wild and sweeping statements like Mr Benson has as the claims would be without clear justification (as displayed by Mr Benson in his retort). But I hope that Rosberg starts to improve over the rest of the season and does put Schumacher in the shade like he did last year.

  • Comment number 30.

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  • Comment number 31.

    Schumacher has also had mechanical issues this season as well, for example DRS failed twice in qualifying early in the season.

    Rosbergs quick on a qualifying lap but never see anything that special when it comes to the race, unlike the drive we saw from Schumacher at Canada and even Monaco before his car gave up.

    Agree with the above about the British media, Schumacher is particularly over analysed. I believe if Schumacher made moves like Hamilton has done over the last two races, the british media would be outing him to leave the sport!

  • Comment number 32.

    @ Pastaman

    Or even like a present-day Lewis Hamilton.

    But in all fairness to DC he was a crash waiting to happen all the way through his F1 career, not just his twilight years.

  • Comment number 33.

    The classic races are wonderful. Often giving a chance for such as Pat the cat to learn a little ! The young generation of current drivers however cast their minds back a bit too recent in their living memory, perhaps we could include the team principals and pit crews to add their choices . (bring back Kyalami and Zandvoort)

  • Comment number 34.

    He had a very stiff neck from Brands where he chrged through the field after clashing with (I think) Piquet at the start and Keke drove the rest of the race as though they were qualifiers. I was there and watching the Williams snap sideways through paddock on every lap was Fantastic to see.

    That's why keke is my all time f1 hero

  • Comment number 35.

    joemercersway and JKDesign totally agree they prove everything wrong with todays blog post

    there seems to be a bit of anti schumacher in alot of andrew bensons blog posts i think an un biased view is needed in future!

  • Comment number 36.

    @ joemercersway

    "I feel sometimes that reporters have an agenda to promote what they believe in."

    As we all do. It's human nature I suppose. But a good reporter should be able to disconnect from their own emmotions when writing an article. These days though some 'reporters' simply write blogs and I have noticed the journalistic integrity and quality displayed in blogs are as good as Joe Bloggs down the pub after a skin-full. Maybe the editorial QA on blogs is non-existant or maybe blogs do allow reporters an opportunity to express their true opinions. But I've never really understood blogs though.

  • Comment number 37.

    @36, sorry I meant more in terms of forcing their beliefs down our throats, as I believe has been happening most of the season in regards to the anti-Schumacher feeling in the BBC TV and online production, including this blog, despite Nico Rosberg doing no better than him, and in reality underachieving more.

  • Comment number 38.

    REF 22 & 30
    I haven't the foggiest why my posts have been removed!!
    All I'm doing is voicing an opinion that any sane right minded individual would think of a certain M.Schumacher...so I've re-addressed the issue and made it more BBC and Ali G friendly...

    Of all the drivers on the circuit that haven't won a GP I'm desperate to see Nico break his cherry once and for all. I had a lot of time for his father battling it out on the racing circuits - a really good gutsy driver that paved the way for a small nation like Finland to produce a succesion of top drivers in Hakkinen and Raikkonen (and may I give praise to the good work from Kovalainen at Lotus ;-).

    A pity he doesn't race under his Father's flag...even more of a pity having Schumacher as your team mate, although I have to agree with Andrew totally that Nico's performances over time have outshone his more illustrious compatriot.

    There's a lot of hullabaloo concerning Schumacher's last drive - it was achieved under extraordinary circumstances in which Kobayashi was second in a large part of the race...that's not taking anything away from the talent the VERY NICE MAN WHO HAS A HISTORY OF TAKING PEOPLE OFF TRACK has in racing under such conditions, but seeing Nico outperform Schumacher consistently is like watching Usain Bolt taking on Alan Wells in the 100 metres every time...and you know there can only be one outcome...

  • Comment number 39.

    @37: I would echo what you are saying. I feel it comes from notion that in F1 terms Rosberg is not really back page news while Schumacher, even in his twilight comeback, can still eclipse every other driver on the grid when it comes to media coverage. I suppose it's almost a back-handed compliment in a way. Maybe one day Rosberg will hold a similar gravitas.

  • Comment number 40.

    @ 35

    Did you not read Andrew Benson's whole article about Schumacher following Canada, including his interview with Ross Brawn? Sounded pretty objective to me.

    Sometimes I just don't get the general public.

    If anyone is passionate enough to post on a message board within a blog, you'd surely credit them with knowing roughly what they are talking about but that just isn't the case at the moment.

    Last week, there were posts in equal measures vehemently accusing Andrew Benson of being Anti-Hamilton and Pro-Hamilton at the same time! How can this be?

    None of the journalists can be consistently Pro or Anti anyone otherwise they wouldn't hold down their jobs.

    When things go wrong for drivers, they write about it because that's what's happened. They can't very well do a piece on Lewis Hamilton's march to success in 2011 when he's just crashed his way through 4 cars in 2 races, can they?

    When Michael Schumacher has clearly been out-performed by Nico Rosberg 6-1 in qualifying, has been slower in most practice sessions and trailed him significantly in the points until 1 race turned it around, how is the above post at all inaccurate?

    Please engage the grey cells before waxing lyrical and finger pointing, purely because someone has said something against the person you are a fan of.

    Objectivity is key.

    Please note, I am a big fan of Michael Schumacher but am smart enough to acknowledge Rosberg has had the better of him SO FAR.

    Revolutionary as that is...

  • Comment number 41.

    #40: At last! Somebody who doesn't allow their personal allegiances to cloud their analysis of an article. you, Sir, have spoken the most sense of anyone today.

  • Comment number 42.

    @40: Well as a Rosberg fan I was very happy to see him out perform Schumacher last year. This year however, I simply can not say that. I have been very disappointed by Rosberg this year. He has simply not lived up to last years high standards. Whereas Schumacher has clearly closed the gap by improving a lot on last year. So while I agree that Rosberg put him in the shade last year, he is no where near putting Schumacher in the shade this year.

    So even though I feel that my comment is objective I can see how others may see it as subjective. Objectivity doesn't prove it one way or another. Some truisms may be plausible but to say that Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade this year is beyond plausible and people have a right to challenge it.

  • Comment number 43.

    I would tend to agree that Rosberg is outperforming Schumacher this season. Schumi has had one decent race (Canada) and one or two moderately good races...but then again you are only as good as your last race!

    How long before Canada 2011 is considered a classic!?

  • Comment number 44.

    @ #40 - Great reply.

    @ Andrew - Great blog, another interesting article offering some insight into the mind of Nico even if it is a little brief. Looking forward to watching the races.

  • Comment number 45.

    Can you clarify the Freeview situation, please Andrew.

    My EPGs say that Classic F1 will be screened on Freeview from 10:35 to 12:00 Friday between FP1 and FP2.

    However, they also say that the live coverage will be of the German Grand Prix...

    Thanks.

  • Comment number 46.

    @40 like I said, it doesn't matter about practice, or qualifying to a large extent, the results are all that matter in reality.

    They both have 26 points, when they've both finished the race Schumacher leads 3-2, and was ahead of Rosberg when he retired which would technically make it 3-3, but that's out of Schumy's hands and Rosberg still only finished 11th.

    Despite finishing 1 more race Nico has finished outside the points three times, Schumacher only once when he's finished.

    Yes Nico has outqualified Schumy but look at it race by race.

    Australia-Qualifying: Nico 7th, Schumy 11th. Race: Both retired.
    Malaysia-Qualfying: Nico 9th, Schumy 11th, Race: Nico 12th, Schumy 9th.
    China-Qualifying: Nico 4th, Schumy 14th, Race: Nico 5th, Schumy 8th.
    Turkey-Qualifying: Nico 3rd, Schumy 8th, Race: Nico 5th, Schumy 12th.
    Spain-Qualifying: Nico 7th, Schumy 10th, Race: Nico 7th, Schumy 6th.
    Monaco-Qualifying: Nico 7th, Schumy 5th, Race: Nico 11th, Schumy: Ret.
    Canada-Qualifying: Nico 6th, Schumy 8th, Race: Nico 11th, Schumy 4th.

    so not once this season has Nico moved up during the race, which nullifies his qualifying somewhat, whilst Schumy is slower in qualifying but improves a lot more during the race and gets me points more regularly.

    If I were Ross Brawn I'd be more worried about the guy who can't deliver on a sunday when I need him to rather than the guy who has some qualifying difficulties but will still give me consistent results.

    Either way the car isn't quick enough for either of them.

  • Comment number 47.

    @40

    i see what your saying but one objective blog post doesn't make up for everything!

    there is some good views put across we all have our favourite drivers but the comments Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade this year is a biased rule points win championships and positions this has been said many years!

  • Comment number 48.

    Isn't it great the way Andrew has explained the reason "Rosberg has put Schumi firmly in the shade again" though they are on equal points and Schumi has their highest finish this year is to say every time Schumi was ahead was because Rosberg had car trouble. This Schumacher bashing gets ridiculous sometimes.

  • Comment number 49.

    I love people complaining about drivers picking same races. Its their favourites not just favourites the public haven't seen in a while.

    I think it tells you something about the drivers as to which races they pick. Some adore Senna's aggressiveness and pick Japan 90 as the purest demonstration of that, some don't. Some choose races they did well in, others go for historic races. Rosberg's choices are quite amusing considering he's picked 2 races where his team mate is getting beaten, which tells you something about where his focus is.

  • Comment number 50.

    @49 very good point raised!

  • Comment number 51.

    Dammit, just watched Kyalami 85 and I didn't hear Hunt's tirade! Has it been edited out?

  • Comment number 52.

    @46: Very good example of my feelings about Rosberg this year. I wish I could sing his praises as much as last year but he doesn't appear to be performing as well as he should be.

    But this is what I mean about the idea of objectivity doesn't equal proof. Maybe I am being harder on him than I should be as I want him to beat Schumacher but I can see that Schumacher has clearly closed the gap. Therefore my challenge becomes subjective.

    The gap may have closed because; a) Rosberg is underperforming, b) Schumacher is improving, or c) both. But whatever the reason I could not justify any claim that suggested that Rosberg was still putting Schumacher in the shade again this year.

    So the question becomes what is the criteria for one F1 driver to be putting another driver in the shade?

  • Comment number 53.

    Guys, guys. Get over it. You cannot possibly see how silly you all look. Apart from #40. Would it help if Andrew just prefaced every sentence with 'in my opinion'? And then you can all just do the same. Thanks.
    xJess

  • Comment number 54.

    @52 I think the only driver really putting his teammate in the shade is Vettel over Webber.

    for whether it's Rosberg underachieving or Schumacher improving, well for the same 7 races last season Rosberg had 64 points, Schumacher ironically had 26, the same as they both have now.

  • Comment number 55.

    @53 not really, is'nt that the point of a commenting? Do you have to agree with the author of the blog?

  • Comment number 56.

    @54: Based on your the points comparison for this year and last year it would appear that Rosberg has underperfromed. Or did he overachieve last year? I'm sure there are a good number of factors and variables that would make any direct comparison very hard to manage. But if we concentrate on this year alone I have still to see any evidence that Rosberg is putting Schumacher in the shade.

    I've just realised that in responding to many comments I have yet to post any comments about Rosberg's picks. Four of them are very good choices. I don't see what was classic about the 1997 European GP though - just like Japan 1990 it reflects the poor side of F1. But hey, as someone earlier said at least it shows us what captures Rosberg's imagination.

  • Comment number 57.

    @56

    Japan 1990 and Europe 1997 aren't the bad side of the sport at all. In both races the people trying to cheat came off worst and lost the WDC.

  • Comment number 58.

    @57: Your comment may hold true for 1997 but not 1990. Maybe that's why Schumacher did what he did in 1997, because he seen how Senna got away with it in 1990. Who knows?

    I can see the importance of each GP in the history of F1 but in the history of classic 'races' they would be highlighting negatives rather than positives. I may not favour 1997 like Rosberg does but if it is one of his favourites then he must have his own reasons (which are not described in the blog as there is only a reference to the ITV issue).

  • Comment number 59.

    @58.

    How much do you know of the history of that race? The cheats in that race (and 1989) were Prost and Balestre.

  • Comment number 60.

    it's all subjective, villeneuve made no attempt to turn into the corner in 97 ;)

  • Comment number 61.

    Firmly in the shade? Qualifying of course but last time I looked Schumacher was on equal points with Rosberg in the table. So by that crazy remark it seems only qualifying counts with a complete disregard of when it matters most...in the race.

  • Comment number 62.

    Andrew Benson - the only man challenging the notion 'the table doesn't lie'. And with him denouncing Schumacher by effectively saying 'Rosberg had car troubles' is shoddy journalism. Ladt time I looked Rosberg was the sole cause of his car troubles in Canada. Utter RUBBISH.

  • Comment number 63.

    After reading everybody's comments it's clear some people do and don't like Schumacher. I'm a Kimi Raikkonen fan but also go for schumacher now that kimi is out of the sport. all i can say is that formula 1 should be glad to have such a great champion back in the sport. with all respect to hamilton, alonso and vettel. they aren't the standard of being an f1 'legend'. schumacher is because he has done so much for the sport. just like ayrton senna who i consider the best alongside schumacher. people say that michael is getting flogged by rosberg but thats not true. lets not forget that rosberg is almost half schumachers age. and martin brundle said in a post race interview that he could only dream of doing what schumacher is doing. michael should not be compared to his original career. he's older now and is just getting back into the swing of f1. so for him to be racing this well and keeping up with drivers in their mid 20's is unbelievable. he's the only 'legend' we have in the sport so let's give him the respect he deserves. he's a true champion

  • Comment number 64.

    Why don't we turn it around and say 'Rosberg really should be beating a 42 year old man who spent over 3 years away from the sport'

  • Comment number 65.

    joemercersway well said. when i watch f1 i try not to be biased at all. but schumacher shows progress in races while nico doesn't. i like both drivers but simply put; michael is 'out racing' rosberg and thats all that matters when you don't have a winning car

  • Comment number 66.

    59: I'd be very interested to hear the logic behind that statement.

  • Comment number 67.

    If anything michael is putting nico in the shade a 42 year old level on points with 25 year old? which driver is 26 points really more impressive for?

  • Comment number 68.

    Nice one 63 my sentiments exactly.

  • Comment number 69.

    "and also because the tape we were given of the 1997 European Grand Prix, which was covered by ITV, has a significant proportion of the race missing, so we are unable to provide highlights of that event"

    We are not fools you hardly ever show any itv era races and what you do show are the most pathetic 10 minute excuses for highlights i have ever seen. We get it, you don't like using itv videos but at least don't lie to us.

  • Comment number 70.

    There is one thing that is overlooked in the Schumacher Rosberg debate and that is do they both have exactly the same goals? Schumacher has little to prove and on the rare occasions conditions have suited the current configuration of his Mercedes car has been devastatingly fast. When the cars are off the pace Rosberg is often quicker - but he still has something to prove and will be looking for a world championship winning car.

    But if you were in Schumacher's position knowing the car was only likely to destroy its tyres if pushed any harder would you really make the effort.

    It was very similar with Prost and Senna many years ago and Prost got similar flak to Schumacher now.

  • Comment number 71.

    Rosberg=0 World titles after 5 years in f1
    Scumacher = 2 world titles in his first 5 years yes maybe one was won by pushing hill or due to suspension damage.
    Simple as Mr Benson and I wont be buying the different eras argument.
    Yes they are in different eras but if your good enough you end up in a team capable of winning the world title like vettel.

  • Comment number 72.

    Well poor poor journalism Andrew! I have become increasingly frustrated with the obvious anti schumacher sentiment in the BBC coverage and this article only highlights this!

    I am British and yes I love supporting Button, Hamilton etc, but this sort of sport has more to do with admiration for various people and their abilities and not which country is their origin. I can admire Schumacher while not being German.

    Schumacher is within 0.2 of second slower at most than Rosberg who is 17 years his junior! In the races he has shown amazing racecraft which Rosberg has not. How is this leaving him in the shade?

    I really believe many of the journalists covering this sport have no idea. Imagine when Schumi started he was battling against Senna etc with cars with completely different controls etc. Now 20 years later he has to keep up his fitness and reactions to that of people half his age who are at the peak of their skill, while also adding DRS, KERS and different controls to the mix. That is a hell of an achievement and frankly great balls to attempt. The least respect the BBC could do for him is not write rubbish like this!

  • Comment number 73.

    Come on Simon Davies - I was getting worried we wouldn't get Brazil 2008 again this week. I'm just sorry Japan 89 isn't in there again...

  • Comment number 74.

    Overall the BBC's anti Schumacher stance has to stop. Are you all infected by Eddie Jordan's clear bitterness towards the man...bitterness which stems from Michael's move to Benetton in 1991 after just one race with Jordan because little Eddie hadn't done his homework.

    20 years on and the man still won't let it drop!

  • Comment number 75.

    Great choice with South Africa 85, your talking about a live broadcast, I myself as a rather well informed tape collector I always thought this race wasnt broadcast live in several countries exacly because of the apartheid, its also the reason why mclaren didnt have sponsorship for the race. I did manage to find a full race broadcast from Brazilian tv but nothing indicated to me that BBC had shown it live at the time?
    Also another question about studio commentary, I noticed that on 3 noteable races (82 detroit, 83 long beach and 90 mexico) the commentary on the Live CH9 australia broadcast is different to the commentary on the highlights shown on the bbc. You know any of the reasoning behind that? Its both with Murray and James.

  • Comment number 76.

    Please please please PLEASE stop including the race result in the description! That goes for the text under the video too, I keep reading it by accident before I can full-screen it. Can't you put them further down the page?

  • Comment number 77.

    hi andrew i had an idea how about next year the bbc shows 5 classic races from different decades of the gp about to take place then we can all watch the history and changing face of F1
    then again some people will still moan. to them i say you clearly dont appreciate what u have till its gone you should all go and post on itvs forum and complain to them whys there no classic gp feature

  • Comment number 78.

    To the BBC - this feature clearly isn't working at all. AT ALL.
    Why can't we go back to what we had before?

    Every race, 5 races were picked from history of that circuit. At least we got to watch past races on the circuit that F1 would be racing at on the same weekend, and got to see races we'd never seen before.

    F1 drivers are not the authority on classic f1 races from the past, its hardly their concern in their over-privileged lives growing up, going into F1. Leave this job to the proffessionals - the commentators, the reporters, the insiders, to pick the 5 GP's that relate to the circuit that is being raced on, every GP.

  • Comment number 79.

    Concur with #78. A drivers favourite race feature could have been run or summarised to make use of the wasted money on their interviews(emails to their PR people for made up answers from their PR team).

    Still would have liked to follow a year from the past race by race, as watching individual races from different years you lose a lot of context, its like just watching a random 5 minutes from a film, it just doesn't work so good, it may be the exciting blockbuster moment of the film...but meh it becomes meaningless without the build up or conclusion.

  • Comment number 80.

    Mr Benson,

    "If you don't want to watch the highlights of Brazil 2008 again, for example, then don't watch them! In the meantime, you can enjoy the new content we are providing, such as this week the full Grand Prix programme from South Africa '85."

    Wow, thank you so much for bothering to pull that tape out of the archive. Phenomenal job. The whole thing too...so no editing? Brilliant. Superb work.

    That alone is worth the license fee which we're strong-armed into paying, how dare anybody even think to be critical!

  • Comment number 81.

    Would imagine they had people digitising the whole archive anyway? For backup/usability/security/speed of access, so surely just needed pointed at the right file. And if not...well wow, fire one of your useless channel controllers and hire 40 normal people to do useful stuff. After all why does the BBC have 9 channels when BBC1 and 2 still aren't properly utilised....Ceefax/news feed for hours at night...really that could be the whole of BBC3 and 4 right in there for people to record and watch at leisure(with a few less repeat showings, hello Iplayer), let alone tripe like Parliament/Alba(regional rubbish) etc.

  • Comment number 82.

    Have all the drivers forgot about the brilliance and genius driving of Michael Schumacher over the years ,
    Do they all think they are historians talking about the 70s and 80s races , do they think we will think more of them .
    Every driver today must have grown up watching Michael on TV , but yet no driver has picked any of his races ,
    You only have to watch the last race where Michael took Webber and Button in one move , had the weather not dried up everyone knows Michael would have one the race .
    I haven't got enough room to list the great races he has had over the years ,
    Brundle and all the rest of his cronies only know too well , but it hurts them so bad.

  • Comment number 83.

    Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade. I'm really tired of reading all the excuses from Schumacher fans. They're blaming the car all last year, the same one that Rosberg seemed to get around ok in. Or it's the new tyres or the new rules or "if only it kept on raining, he'd have won". Please, enough! Go back and look at Jenson's pace in the wet. He was carving through the field on inters.

    Pele won three World Cups but Brazil aren't going to field him in 2014. It does not matter how many WC's Schumacher has - he ain't fast enough now, and he's really not going to get better now he's in his early 40s. He might luck a good result, but he's not going to consistently beat Rosberg, who to be fair is actually a lot better than he is given credit for.

    Anyway, on the subject of the classic GPs, all i can say is.... James Hunt.... absolute legend as a driver and as a person.


  • Comment number 84.

    "Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade"
    Hardly with 7 races gone there on the same points.
    Yes rosberg put him in the shade last year but schumacher had only just come back into the sport and he had to get back into the groove with training and everything and rosbergs like 17 years younger he should be trouncing schumacher in every race and qualifying but hes not so lets wait and see but i bet schumacher wins a race before rosberg does. Lets wait and see at the end of the season shall we?

    On the subject of BBC bias would you rather them not have an opinion? Be a bit boring if they just read the result out and didn't offer any insight into why it happened.

    And we all know brundle, jordan and coulthard all had their run in's with schumacher so we get the fact they don't like him simple.
    Lets start a real row who's better. Jenson Button or Lewis Hamilton? 1 world championship each.

  • Comment number 85.

    Perhaps the time saved not having to make new edits of Japan 89/90, Belgium 00 and Brazil 08 could be spent putting together proper edits of the ITV era races so we can see them!

    On a serious note though, I still really enjoy this feature and was particularly excited that South Africa 1985 had been selected. I was worried when the feature began with an effective This is Your Life for Sebastian Vettel (not good when his F1 life has been so short!), but the likes of Schumacher, Barrichello and now Rosberg have picked some decent events. I only hope that when you select which driver's choices to use, you continue to take into account the more original selections. I assume Lewis or Jenson will be used at Silverstone?

  • Comment number 86.

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  • Comment number 87.

    ANDREW, If you print sensationalist titles, it's hardly surprising that you will get back lash. try a little less Daily Express
    "tabloideese" that the Beeb seem to be fond of at the moment. You have by your explanation of arriving at your conclusion,
    "Rosberg is outperforming schumi this season", shot yourself in the foot... Your logic to arrive at your conclusion could equally be
    attributted to the races where Rosberg has outperfomed schumi this season too!

    fact is, although a few tenths slower in quali, schumis race calibre is superior to rosbergs, and that much comes out in schumi's arce craft and ovetaking, sadly lacking with Rosberg. The few tenths is explained by the huge age gap. Rosberg is good and fast no doubt, but hes not in the same league as Hamilton, Vettel..Schumi will continue to gain ground on Rosberg, who certainly not firmly beating him this season.

  • Comment number 88.


    """I know that will sound counter-intuitive, but does, for example, the fact that Nick Heidfeld outscored Robert Kubica in two of their three
    seasons at BMW Sauber make Heidfeld a better driver? No, of course no. It is reflective of circumstances more than performance.""""
    ..................EXACTLY, this explains just as many of Rosbergs outings where he outperfomed Schumi this season, as it does the other way
    around!. you cannot arrive at the conclusion you did after 6-7 races, unless one driver is trouncing the other consitently. At the end of
    the day quali means nothing at all, as we know quali is somewhat constructed this season, you dont know when a driver is pushing or sand
    bagging this season. What counts at the end of the day is the race result, nothing else.

  • Comment number 89.

    continued.........Let me just ask you one question.....Have we seen any interesting and exciting, fighty race craft from Rosberg this season, or for much of
    last season for that matter??, no, not really. Schumi is demostrating it more and more as he finds his feet. I suspect that what shines
    through sometimes is the caliber of Schumi as a driver, even though it may be slighly dulled these days. You don't really see that with
    Rosberg, as fast as he is, there is a distinct difference in the overall calibre of them.You cannot say Rosberg is putting him in the shade
    this year. Apart from Turkey, both have had their relative ups and downs since the start of the season, and I would say they are at about
    the same level at the moment. Shumi is a more canny intelligent and oportunistic race craft driver. Rosberg definitely has the edge on
    pace by 2-3 tenths, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter in the scheme of an entire race.

  • Comment number 90.

    continued.........Asides from Monaco, schumis starts have
    been demon since the back end of last season. Rosbergs on the other hand quite average. At the end of the day even Ross Brawn has
    openly admitted that there is hardly anything between them at the moment in terms of race pace, and no comparisons can be made,
    since the circumstances for each driver have never been level from the start of the season. I suspect rosberg will remain the faster driver
    in terms of pace for the whole season, but they will remain vey similar in terms of overall results. In another 5 races maybe we can make a
    bold statement about which driver has out performed the other so far this season.

  • Comment number 91.

    No matter how many times I've seen it, I can watch the highlights of Brazil '08 over and over again. Absolutely tremendous. Motorsport at its finest. :)

  • Comment number 92.

    What happened to everyone in the rain , all hopeless , except who , yes the rain master Michael Schumacher , the most useless car amongst the top teams and what did he do in the pissing rain , overtake all the so called racing drivers today , Rosberg, Massa, heidfield ,Webber , and Button , the so called race winner and F1 champion , WHAT A JOKE ,
    He took both the Red Bull and Mclaren in one move , no one but Michael could have done that.
    James hunt don't make me laugh .

  • Comment number 93.

    Oh can't believe how BBC's F1 journalists are against Schumi.Seems like they don't like him very much and they still didn't forget the years when he dominated. Every time I watch F1 on BBC, and when it goes to Michael it's always just critics and some really "smart" comments from DC and EJ. They don't find any good thing in him at all. And then also the British media writing that Michael has been dominated by his teammate this season. And then this "Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade"? Oh c'mon! What's wrong with you? I have enough of reading&listening of this, and I just signed up just to make a comment here.

    How on earth Rosberg has put Schumacher in the shade this season? They have the same points! Andrews, you said that the points table does not necessarily always reflect an accurate picture of the relative performances between drivers, especially in a team who are battling to score points and facing a number of problems.
    Now the points table does not play the main thing, but in the previous season it did, right!?Like in the previous season they weren't facing problems! And also seems like you didn't really watch an interview with Michael after the race in Japan last year. When Rosberg has more points, then Michael is absolutely dominated by his teammate, but when Michael has same points than Rosberg then points don't play the main thing.

    And you are saying that just Rosberg had problems with the car. Noway that Michael had them. If Rosberg is in front of Michael, than there's no doubt Michael has to leave F1 and so on, but when Michael is in front of his teammate then there's no doubt that Rosberg has car issues.

    You are saying that Rosberg has outqualified Michael, but you don't care if Michael had problems with the car. He had at least 2 problems with DRS...But anyways you know points are giving on Sunday's race, where Nico doesn't improve his grid position, he's not attacking and he doesn't show any of race craft skills. And let's go race by race:

    Australia: They both retired, so how can you say Rosberg was faster than Michael? Again you don't care if Michael had problems in qualifying, you just know for Rosberg's problems. In the race Michael retired actually in the second corner, then he was driving with damaged car so you can't compare their race paces.

    Malaysia: I think it was clear that Michael was faster.

    China: Okay, here Rosberg performed better then Michael over the whole weekend ( ignoring the problem Michael had in qualifying again)

    Turkey: Actually you know, you could go watch a lap chart and you will see that Michael's race pace was faster than Nico's. Or is it too hard for you, do you want that I find it and show it for you? !Michael's race pace was better than Nico's even if Michael used 1 set of tryres less than Nico! And all the media again just looked at the standings after the race and when they saw Michael on P12, they were all saying again Michael has to leave this sport and his teammate dominated him and blablabla. And those 3 commentators on BBC coverage were just seeing when Michael was passed in the midfield...But you know he had to have longer stints ( so it could work with 3 pit stops) and by the end of his stints his tyres went off and that's why they were passing him!

    Spain: I hope you remember that Michael didn't do a lap in Q3 due to a Kers issue.
    And you are saying Nico was faster than Michael and he couldn't get past him, but you again didn't see Michael had problems with car.

    Monaco: Nico would be probably faster in the qualifying. But why can't you compare them in the race? It was clear, that after the first pit stop Michael was faster then Nico, and you can't say because of the super soft tyres because the super soft and the soft aren't that different compounds to make more than a 2 seconds difference per lap.
    It's really interesting how on BBC coverage they always notice when Michael is passed and they are saying what a bad job he's doing. But weird when Nico couldn't pass Trulli in lotus they didn't even notice that! That was after his first pit stop and he was on fresh tyres, when Trulli was on old tyres, and Nico managed to get in front of him just when Trulli had to pit!


    I hope Michael gets more luck in next races to prove the analysis and shuts up these big mouths.
    And also can't wait when BBC looses their F1 coverage, coz I can't listen to them anymore...If atleast those 3 commentators were changed...

  • Comment number 94.

    Andrew you must be getting fed up with the same old moans. When will they take heed that there are no more classic races? Two years has exhausted that supply and revisiting others is the only option. I wouldn't bother running it at all to avoid the pointless stick you get.

    As for the Schuey/Rosberg comment I agree with you. Two above par races doesn't redeem him for the previous season and a half, although NR has disappointed me in the races. As to whoever said MS would have won Canada if the rain continued stop being daft.

    Keep up the good work BBC, enjoy the coverage and the DC/MB is beginning to flourish.

  • Comment number 95.

    *DC/MB partnership

  • Comment number 96.

    #90 - Ross Brawn has to say that, he signed him.

    I love these articles and it amazes me how people become apparently offended by someone offering an opinion. If these were face to face discussions and the "human" element was retained I imagine people would be much more polite.

  • Comment number 97.

    How has Schumacher (and Hamilton for that matter, no bias here) escaped the black flag this season? Or was it last season, my memory is letting me down here.

  • Comment number 98.

    Just settling down to watch some S.African GP highlights now. Look, I'm just grateful to be able to watch any of this stuff from the 80's. Dont really care how much any of it gets repeated, this is stuff I can watch again and again anyway. It's like watching a favourite film, you never stop loving it even when you know the lines off by heart. Sometimes I think its easy to lose sight of the fact that we're lucky to still have this stuff in the first place.

  • Comment number 99.

    Some good choices from Nico

    **** Andrew, thanks for getting a slot for Freeview coverage. Much appreciated. It baffles me why you, on behalf of the BBC, have to trot out the 'no bandwidth' or 'Wimbledon' excuse then 'REPEAT' Practice sessions 1 & 2 throughout the night, when you could show Classic F1 in part of this slot? This happened at Canada too. I can understand Classic F1 being put to the back of the que when Wimbledon or Glastonbury are on, but why then repeat the Practice sessions for 6 to 8 hours when you could show Classic F1?

    Luckily we've got Classic F1 on freeview this time and i thank you for that, but the scheduling decision to repeat the practice sessions for 8+ Hours at the expense of 2 hours of Classic F1 (which i'd have thought most F1 fans would prefer) seems bizarre. I hope this baffling decision doesn't continue for the rest of the season****

  • Comment number 100.

    Why are there alot of pats on the back for your piece , so much bowing to you Andrew (would like to call it something else but lets just call it bowing to you)
    Why does it hurt so many people saying Michael Schumachers last race in the wet was fantastic , and only he could have done that ,Michael took Button and Webber in the pissing rain ,and started to catch Vettel, am i the only one who saw that, and only when it started to dry up did Button and Webber come through .
    Andrew , I think you should always start off with , well it hurts me to say this but Michael Schumacher was brilliant, because all we want is the truth and none of all these stupid comments , you have alot of hangers on and cant think for themselves and follow your every word . you only have to read some of the comments .

 

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