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Does Ivory Coast need a new strategy?

AfricaHYS Team | 15:35 UK time, Tuesday, 1 March 2011

 

As the international community focuses on the crisis in Libya, the situation in Ivory Coast threatens to degenerate.

 The United Nations has warned that Ivory Coast is on the brink of a new civil war, as post-election violence spreads from Abidjan to other areas. Yesterday, Laurent Gbagbo extended a curfew in the two Abidjan neighbourhoods of Abobo and Anyama following fighting between his supporters and those of his rival Alassane Ouattara.  

The African Union panel led initiative has so far failed to find a solution to the stalemate. So, what could provide a lasting solution for Ivory Coast? Is power sharing impossible?  Should the UN Security Council to get involved? Does Africa need a new approach to conflict resolution?

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  • Comment number 1.

    AU can not claim to be bereaved of ideas on how to tackle Ivorian crisis.Rather, personal and group interest have crept into the entire issue, thereby undernining the little effort being put into action. Travel ban, arms embargo and the like can not push a dictator out of his office. But international arrest warrant on any ruler who thwarts the common wish of his people is a round peg in a round hole. Africa needs a practical approach like this to get rid of dictators. Nsukka, Enugu state, Nigeria.

  • Comment number 2.

    Dear BBC

    Thanks for given me the opportunity to participate on your post a comment. What i will like to say is that sharing a goverment in ivory coast is not the issue and it can not be possible. the situation is clearly here alassane ouatarra win the election clearly let Gbagbo gives the power to him but african mediation has failed because they think that Gbagbo can leave in power in peace but they are not living in ivory coast Gbagbo has armed all his party youth in the street of Abidjan yesterdy night till tuesday morning i was at koumassi there was shooting from mid night to 4am in the morning because Gbagbo boys continue to kill innocent people police need to come to despise them off because they went to attack a street where they known that it is Ouatarra supporters are there. There are lots of barricade in the streets no one knows who is controlling it because each party have his boys and barricade. every people are afriad to pass because if they found you that you are opposite side they count the person as rebel.

    Gbagbo has already intoxicate the african union panel they can never say the truth the only person that the whole people is looking up to is god and Nigerian president Goodluck Jonathan who can help them. Let united nations approve ecomog mission so that they can come and take off Gbagbo from the power that he clung to for the past 3 months. because if this matter late there will be a genocide the heart of people is very bitter against each other. the state television is brocasting hatred day by day no one is watching the tv anymore only Gbagbo supporter. hatred commenttary everyday against west african countries and open the life of people into danger day by day.

    This morning there was loothing at koumassi inch-allah at all west african citizen shops like mauritainan nigerien etc this is getting too much we can nto even sleep at night as gun wake up us in the middle of the night

    Let ECOMOG come and help the people of Ivory Coast. un has no power to execise his works there because he can not move to anywhere Gbagbo boys always attack them and burn their cars and convoys. there is no money in the country the banks are closed no work fuel scarcity and bread scarcity too will began as flour company annouce the closure of their company soon. people are dying everyday and african union can not do anything let them leave the job to ECOWAS and let Goodluck come and use his luck to deliver the people of ivory coast from the hand of Gbagbo.[Personal details removed by Moderator]

  • Comment number 3.

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  • Comment number 4.

    Finding a solution to the stalemate in the Ivory Coast requires a holistic approach. It calls for a clear understanding of the root causes of the conflict that had led the country to its current situation. The current stalemate can not be understood unless we make an effort to understand: (i) what had happened to the country and its people in the last ten years and, (ii) what might happen a year or ten years from now. In the last ten years many efforts have been made to resolve the conflict and almost all have proven to be unproductive.

    Now it is the time for Ivoirians to consider a peace and national reconciliation approach similar to that of South Africa. It is now the time to take innovative conflict resolution approach. The time has come for Ivoirians to take inclusive approach in which all conflict affected people from all walk of life will have to participate and contribute in defining and identifying practical solution to their problem under which they all can co-exist– including those nationals from Burkina Faso and Mali who have been living in the country for decades and have made huge investments prior to the breaking of the 2001 conflict.

    While moving toward a new national forgiveness and reconciliation agenda, Ivoirians must be encouraged to adopt the culture of providing security and ensuring livelihoods to those who are or were in power as well as their supporters if they guarantee a peaceful handover of power to democratically elected government. In a country like Ivory Coast where tribal politics is dominant, where one tribe fears the other, it is imperative that the conflict resolution mechanism creates incentive for peaceful democratic transition and national reconciliation.

    We must understand that those leaders who are in power as well as their supporters are very much afraid of retaliations and hardships which they might face after handing over power to a democratically elected government. Unless we remove this fear and provide some sort of grantee for their security and livelihoods, African leaders and their supports will continue to fight to the end and; this seems to be the case in the Ivory Coast.

  • Comment number 5.

    The problem in CI is, the rebelles have no qualms in killing their fellow Ivorians, whilst the Ivorian Armee has not grasped yet that this is war and unfortunately you have to kill those who are illbent to kill you. Once they cross that rubicon psychologically, the rebelles will have another language.
    These are people who are still receicing their wages from Gbagbo's government, water and electricity are free in the North (when it is cut, they cry foul), they prefer living in the South than in the North. Despite everything Gbagbo's governement has endured from them with their allies in the West, the country is trying to do what is right by them.
    The war, they are so eagerly calling for will kill Ivorians. Is that the price to pay for the ambition of one man?
    Unfortunately, the West doesn't have a reverse even if the foulishness of their initial policies is found wanting.

  • Comment number 6.

    Every country's situation is different and unique, It would have been apprioriate for the Incumbent in Ivory coast to seek a legal action against the result of the poll rather than having his men declare him winner, It is undersandable that the consitutional court is the highest when it comes to matters of election but at no time did that court held any session to determine who actually won the election.
    The issue of powering sharing is becoming a fashion in African political system and this political fashion is producing a recalcitrant incumbents' who delibrately put obstacles during the election period in order to have problems and then settles for power sharing, it is another way of making them a sit tight in government without freely handing over. I will suggest that power sharing should be jettision entirely and let losers go to court and determine their elections. Power sharing produce political strange-bedfellowers and it is more frictious than when power is not shared.

  • Comment number 7.

    Dear BBC

    THANKS FOR GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE ON YOUR POST A COMMENT. WHAT I WILL LIKE TO SAY IS THAT SHARING A GOVERMENT IN IVORY COAST IS NOT THE ISSUE AND IT CAN NOT BE POSSIBLE. THE SITUATION IS CLEARLY HERE ALASSANE OUATARRA WIN THE ELECTION CLEARLY LET GBAGBO GIVES THE POWER TO HIM BUT AFRICAN MEDIATION HAS FAILED BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT GBAGBO CAN LEAVE IN POWER IN PEACE BUT THEY ARE NOT LIVING IN IVORY COAST [Personal details removed by Moderator]THERE ARE LOTS OF BARRICADE IN THE STREETS NO ONE KNOWS WHO IS CONTROLLING IT BECAUSE EACH PARTY HAVE HIS BOYS AND BARRICADE. EVERY PEOPLE ARE AFRIAD TO PASS BECAUSE IF THEY FOUND YOU THAT YOU ARE OPPOSITE SIDE THEY COUNT THE PERSON AS REBEL.

    GBAGBO HAS ALREADY INTOXICATE THE AFRICAN UNION PANEL THEY CAN NEVER SAY THE TRUTH THE ONLY PERSON THAT THE WHOLE PEOPLE IS LOOKING UP TO IS GOD AND NIGERIAN PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN WHO CAN HELP THEM. LET UNITED NATIONS APPROVE ECOMOG MISSION SO THAT THEY CAN COME AND TAKE OFF GBAGBO FROM THE POWER THAT HE CLUNG TO FOR THE PAST 3 MONTHS. BECAUSE IF THIS MATTER LATE THERE WILL BE A GENOCIDE THE HEART OF PEOPLE IS VERY BITTER AGAINST EACH OTHER. THE STATE TELEVISION IS BROCASTING HATRED DAY BY DAY NO ONE IS WATCHING THE TV ANYMORE ONLY GBAGBO SUPPORTER. HATRED COMMENTTARY EVERYDAY AGAINST WEST AFRICAN COUNTRIES AND OPEN THE LIFE OF PEOPLE INTO DANGER DAY BY DAY.

    THIS MORNING THERE WAS LOOTHING AT KOUMASSI INCH-ALLAH AT ALL WEST AFRICAN CITIZEN SHOPS LIKE MAURITAINAN NIGERIEN ETC THIS IS GETTING TOO MUCH WE CAN NTO EVEN SLEEP AT NIGHT AS GUN WAKE UP US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT

    LET ECOMOG COME AND HELP THE PEOPLE OF IVORY COAST. UN HAS NO POWER TO EXECISE HIS WORKS THERE BECAUSE HE CAN NOT MOVE TO ANYWHERE GBAGBO BOYS ALWAYS ATTACK THEM AND BURN THEIR CARS AND CONVOYS. THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE COUNTRY THE BANKS ARE CLOSED NO WORK FUEL SCARCITY AND BREAD SCARCITY TOO WILL BEGAN AS FLOUR COMPANY ANNOUCE THE CLOSURE OF THEIR COMPANY SOON. PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERYDAY AND AFRICAN UNION CAN NOT DO ANYTHING LET THEM LEAVE THE JOB TO ECOWAS AND LET GOODLUCK COME AND USE HIS LUCK TO DELIVER THE PEOPLE OF IVORY COAST FROM THE HAND OF GBAGBO.

  • Comment number 8.

    The situation in the Middle East seem to be the cause of the attention-drifting from the Ivory Coast. I suggest that if the current on-going efforts fail, then the country should be split into 2. If that also fails then Gbagbo should be forced out of power by force of arms.

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  • Comment number 9.

    Honestly speaking AU has lost it's credibility in handling African political affairs. I know it is a difficult task esp involment with independent states. I think AU should be in position to have all options available on table and able to execute them. Laurent Gbagbo should understand that even if he does not hand power soon, he will be prosecuted. The softer root is come to terms with the Mr Quattara and the whole international community. I fear ethnic cleansing will soon start roots again on the continent. I advise AU where necessary force is required, it should be used to save population being divided.

  • Comment number 10.

    They definetly do. Must have another election, very closely monitored. But this must only be suggested by every single country in the AU. Not a western country or European. If this is refused, African countries must get together and decide what action to take against Ivory Coast or in Ivory Coast because they obviously cannot sort it out themselves.

  • Comment number 11.

    My motherland Sierra Leone, very proud to be native from there. It’s a shame that our politicians using millions of dollars to celebrate our 50 years of independence. We need to ask our self that what are they celebrating, what have we as nation achievements since independence. 50 years of independence our country still depends hugely on handouts from donors whiles the rest of the population live below the poverty line. Our nation has experienced increasing nepotism, tribalism, Political corruption, financial mismanagement, and improper allocation of development funds have contributed to continuing economic malaise in our country
    .
    Ten years of savage fighting followed, marked by atrocities and punishments to terrorise civilians. .Between 1991 and 2001, about hundreds of thousands or more people were killed in Sierra Leone's civil war. Hundreds of thousands of people were forced from their homes, and many became refugees worldwide
    Sierra Leone is one of the world’s poorest countries, problems of poor infrastructure, including roads and energy, low capacity, youth unemployment, high maternal and infant mortality, widespread rural impoverishment. Our so called politician could not face in enhancing transparency in managing the country’s vast natural resource endowments.

    A message to all Sierra Leonean should feel that this is the land of our birth. we should ask what our nation mother sierra Leone has done for us as an individual but what we as people have done to our beloved Sierra Leone is our native land. Let remember that nobody from outside or the western powers would come and develop it for us.

  • Comment number 12.

    Dialogue has not worked with Gbagbo as many of us living here in Cote d'Ivoire had predicted. Jacob Zuma's dilly dallying on some jaundiced and lost pan-Africanist agenda is just prolonging the misery of the ordinary Ivorian. Tanzania's Jakaya Kikwete of the "AU High level Negotiators Panel" hit the nail on the head with his proposal to initiate judicial proceedings against the constitutional council of Cote d'Ivoire because it is them that denied the Ivorian population their right to choose a government.
    The only solution left for Cote d'Ivoire is the forced removal of Gbagbo. As the prominent Ivoarian activist and writer, Venance Konan put it, " better a terrible end than terror without end."
    All Gbagbo is doing now is murdering his own people as the world looks on Libya.

  • Comment number 13.

    As the crisis in Cote d'Ivoire continues I believe that ECOMOG and the UN should work together to stabilize the country. The representatives from the AU's decision to recommend power sharing sends a terrible message to African leaders. Gbagbo lost a free and fair election and needs to leave. Although ECOWAS has said they would go into the country the recent interference by the AU and the upcoming elections in Nigeria make intervention unlikely.

    As far as the Security Council is concerned, they will certainly condemn the situation but will do nothing assist the people of Cote d'Ivoire. Do we expect anything different? This situation has been escalating for over three months and other than calling Ouattara the President-elect the international community has done very little.

    Personally I hope that the international community, especially my own country, will speak up and attempt to stop conflict from escalating. I spent a year in South-Eastern Liberia near Cote d'Ivoire, and saw first hand what war in this region could mean. I hope for Ivoirians and their neighbors that this situation can be resolved and for peace to finally come to West Africa. (Burlington, Vermont, USA)

  • Comment number 14.

    I think the situation in the Ivory Coast is now beyond diplomatic strategic. Gbagbo has remain defiant with all diplomatic effort to resolve the political crisis. Ivory is not Far from civil war and Gbagbo is not greater than the International community, Strong Military action is needed now to remove the so-called regime of Gbagbo.

  • Comment number 15.

    Col Gadaffi? no! this man is not a col. A col is suppose to protect his people and not destroy them. Gadaffi is a monster. Monsters destroy people; this is exactly what Gadaffi is doing. Let's call him Monster Gadaffi.
    A river that forgets its source will soon get run dry. Gadaffi has forgotten that the same people he is now destroying are the very ones who gave him power. Gadaffi will never succeed. Let the Libyan population never give up!!

  • Comment number 16.

    in an issue of ivory coast i think that cote d ivoire have to solve this problems within themself without any help of extenal body,because extenal boby are increasing the post electoral crisis due to that they want to be inpart of the ivorians economis,on like france,usa,and great britan,they are the people that destroying african country.

  • Comment number 17.

    this is very sorry to see a nation going down by the intrest of loan man who didnt even care about the oneness of his naion.
    and what makes it so sad that all african leader are faild to do anything for people of ivory coast because they all like mbagbo.
    oooooooooooooo my Africa when am i gonna see u in peace.

  • Comment number 18.

    Honestly what kind of political figure can claim to be "elected ruler recognized by the international community" when the people who elected him don't even listen to him.

    Who can love his people so much that he prevent them from having access to their finances knowing that these finances are what his people needed on a daily basics to live including medical care.

    I Ouattara say he has really been elected why is he scared of counting the election back again. why does he need foreign troop to fight soldiers and people he claims voted for him.

    We all have a certain responsibility toward the ivory coast and whatever we say or write can have an impact on millions ivorian life.

    Well to my knowledge those dying today are not Ouattara neither Gbagbo's family member but poor ivorian from both side who just want to live a better life.



  • Comment number 19.

    The majority of comments that are being made are very sad because it comes from people who have an opinion without
    1. understanding or facts of the situation in the Ivory Coast currently;
    2. Unaware of what is happening on the field;
    3. Unaware of the history of this political situation;
    Please educated yourself before speaking complete non-sense. There are bad activities happening in both Outtara's and Gbagbo's camp. So you cannot condamn one without condamning the other.
    This is the first time that a political situation has invited so much interference from the outside. The Ivory Coast does not need the U.N or the European community to intervene in this situation. The European Community is more concern with ensuring a "yes man" in power, someone that will give them what they want, more than the Ivorian people. Unforntately Ouattara is that man. According to the Constitutional commission, Gbagbo is president. When George W Bush need the supreme court to confirm his victory, I did not see the any other country intervene.
    The Ivorian people are a very resilient group of people, and if they really wanted Gbagbo out, he would be out. Ouattara knows that he will never be accepted by the Ivorian people. Especially after trying to asphyxiate the country and make the Ivorian people suffer. What kind of leader is ready to shed the blood of his people to get in power. He was also behind the Coup d'etat that resulted in the deaths of thousand of Ivorians.
    If Ouattara really won, he would not mind redoing the elections or recounting the votes, but he doesnt want to because he knows that he will not win. He rather take the country by force, the Ivorian people are just too strong, and he will not succeed.

  • Comment number 20.

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  • Comment number 21.

    God should have mercy upon such a confused nation like Ivory Coast!

  • Comment number 22.

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  • Comment number 23.

    First of all, did Ouattara really win the elections ?
    If yes, why is he so afraid of a re-count?

    It is hardly mention that Ivory Coast has got 40% of foreigners.
    The real problem here is that real native Ivorians will never accept Ouattara ( someone from Burkina faso descent) as president.

    It is not a conflict between Northerners and Southerners but a conflict between foreigners and native Ivorians.

    I hope you will publish my comments because it will help many people to have a better understanding of the situation.

  • Comment number 24.

    No new strategy is needed.Let Ouattara accept the results proclaimed by the institutions of his country.He should not be deceived by the west who are trying to defend their interests.Ouattara should not betray his nation.How can a leader accept that his countrymen whom he claims voted for him,go with out salaries, be unable to sell their produce, not have access to drugs, not have access to their bank accounts.What a leader in Ouattara.It can only be but a man like him who thinks Ivory coast should still be ruled from France.He does not believe in the independence of his country.If he has some sense still left in his head then he should wait for the next five years and bring his friends from the west with their media power and see if at that time the Ivorians must have gone blind not to see.

  • Comment number 25.

    Not just Ivory Coast, the whole continent needs a new starategy/new road map. Every ruler who does NOT want to give up power, or works hard NOT to at least put in place the foundation for democratic process to take roots, seems to think that his country's "Situation" is different, so the continuation of his rule is "Vital". These rulers' excessive immotional "Love and concern" for their "Mother land", should be seen as alarmingly unhealthy and must be treated as a medical case before it destroys their country and its people as it did to many countries. Yes, without a doubt, every society/community/individual is different in many aspects, but the issue of freedom always has had a universal appeal to all human beings on planet Earth, regardless of their gender, race, religion, place of origin, color and age. The strategy for every country MUST be respecting the " The God given inalienable rights" of every human being, and the rest will fall in place naturally. Thanks

  • Comment number 26.

    As a survival of a civil war, I say this with a heavy heart. Mr. Gbagbo has to be removed from power by force now by an intervention force. What is at stake is the idea of democracy and the will of the majority in Cote D'Ivoire. Any power sharing arrangement will set a bad precedent that if you loose an election, all you have to do is refuse to step down and the world is going to negotiate with you. The situation is already bad for the Ivorian and at this stage without the removal of Mr. Gbagbo,it will only get worse. Every day that goes by allows Mr. Gbagbo to arm himself and solidify his grip on the country. Act now ECOWAS!



  • Comment number 27.

    There is no longer any point in arguing who "won" the election. Both Gbagbo and Ouattara have proven themselves to be unfit to govern in any capacity. Nobody "won" this election except for arms dealers, speculators, and others who profit from human misery. Gbagbo cannot govern because of lack of international support and Ouattara lacks constitutional legitimacy.
    On the other hand, BNadette is correct to say that if the people really wanted Gb out, he would be out. The people wanted Guei out in 2000 and they got him out, even though he had the military's support. Now, when there is a rumor of an attack on Gb, civilians surround the presidential palace to protect him.

    It's extremely sad that people are willing to kill each other in support of these two egomaniacs.

  • Comment number 28.

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  • Comment number 29.

    Ivory Coast used to be a peaceful nation until lately. What is happening in Ivory Coast is painful and discouraging. France interest in Ivoirien economy is gradually destroying that lovely nation and the International Community is pretending as if they do not understand what is root of the crisis in Ivory Coast. We all are human, how can an European nation come and influence/take absolute control of an African nation to the extent the world is not seeing anything wrong in that. President Laurent Gbagbo has been on that seat as a slave since the year 2000 he was sworn in as president, simply because he refused to dance totally to the tone of France. Let the international community withdraw from the crisis in Ivory Coast and watch the crisis there die naturally, the killings there will stop once and for all. We are know that the international community is protecting the interest of France and not Allassane as an individual.

  • Comment number 30.

    Let the African Leaders look into the Ivory Coast crisis critically and not with centiments. Find out the Ivorien Voting capacity which will sincerely determine who actually won and who rigged the election. Nigeria has not recovered worth of lives and properties which we lost in ECOMOG during the Liberian war, so despatching more Nigerian soldiers to come and perish in Ivory Coast will make no sense. No country in the world is worth perishing for, so we cannot go and die in thousands in order to indirectly protect a selfish interest of a France man.

  • Comment number 31.

    Most wars in Africa are rooted in tribalism. Almost all outside Africa do not understand this. There are a number of tribes in Ivory Coast, and Gbagbo belongs to the Krahn tribe; Ouattara to the Dioula tribe. The rivalry is bitter for a number of reasons.

    Both Gbagbo and Ouattara have got involved in conflicts in their neighbors countries of Liberia and Sierra Leone often on opposing sides. The Movement for Democracy in Liberia and the National Patriotic Front of Liberia are examples.

    And then there was the Ivorian civil war in 2002 with 1,000 dead.

    They belong to different religions.

    And now there is the naive expectation that an election can be held, a winner declared and it will all be OK. That is impossible in a short time frame.

    The best solution is partition, Gbagbo runs his side in the south, and Ouattara runs the northern side. Just as Sudan was partitioned, so too the Ivory Coast must be broken up.

    BNadette is correct - the international media have portrayed Gbagbo as “the Bad Guy” and Ouattara as “the Good Guy”. This is false. They are both "bad". Whoever has the upper hand will attempt to destroy the other.

  • Comment number 32.

    "Does Cote d'Ivoire need a New Solution?" The answer is Heck yeah! Duh!

    Here are some suggestions:

    1) Decide how to address the rebel controlled areas that refused to disarm during the elections, even though that was a condition for holding the elections. and then either:

    2) Recount the votes, having accounted for the occupation by gun toting treaty breakers and cheaters.

    or

    3) Hold a new election, having accounted for the occupation by gun toting treaty breakers and cheaters.

    AND/OR...

    4) Let there be power sharing -- after an international court has tried Soro and Ouattara for their responsibility for the illegal occupation by gun toting treaty breakers and cheaters.

    If Ouattara is found innocent then he can share the power.

    However, its probably not a good idea for Soro to be in on the deal.
    After all, he's already claimed responsibility for a coup d'etat, and has already accepted responsibility for a 6 year armed occupation of the northern (and western) part of the country, and hence, for all the terror and harm that came as a consequence to the people who lived there. And he is definitely responsible for a refusal (or at least a failure) to disarm his forces during the election, in violation of the peace agreements in which disarmament was a condition.

    SO. Take all that into account before you write on this situation.
    There is plenty of analysis and alternative viewpoints at the site Ocnus dot net.


  • Comment number 33.

    IT IS PAINFUL.

    The truth has not been said and it is a pressing issue that media has not made it possible for the people of Africa and the rest of the world to know the actual truth of what is happening in Ivory Coast. I am a living witness to prove to you that His Excellence Laurent Gbagbo is in his right while France and United States had decided from the first day even before election to nominate and consider Mr. Alassane Dramane Quattara as the president elect because of their interest. Let us face the fact, why anyone haven’t consider recounting or evaluating as requested by the incumbent president His Excellence Laurent Gbagbo. Let us not be deceived because God is not asleep and the truth will still come out maybe when it is too late. Remember what happened in Rwanda, Tunisia and the rest. If you give France the chance to take whatever they want from your country then you will remain in power even extending it to your children just like TOGO, Cameroon, Senegal and Burkina Faso respectively. Accept their foreign policy and you will continue as president even passes the seat to their children. Things have happened and we live to experience this. It hurts me much because I have being in Ivory Coast for years and I know what is happening because I have being a good listener and I follow their system of politics for years. They want to send ECOMOG as stated, Did Mr. Good luck think of Millions of Nigerians out there in Ivory Coast with Millions dollars Goods, Did President Compaoré consider the lives of millions of the Burkina Faso here in Ivory Coast or have the President of Mali consider the lives of the millions of Malian directly or indirectly involve in the crisis of Ivory Coast just like Burkina Faso. It is painful because things happens with reasons, but the actual problem and the turmoil is that people are made to understand that the incumbent Mr. Gbagbo is a killer, but it is the other way round. Do you know that there has being a rebellion in Ivory Coast since 2002? Have you asked yourself who is these people and who are they working for? Maybe let me tell you about Mr. Gbagbo. He cares for Ivory Coast and wants to die for Ivory Coast for their complete independence. 50Years of African independence things has not being right in all French countries. Have you witnessed any French speaking country in Africa progressing in the right direction? NO, WHY? Because France in question deprive them from progressing. HOW? Exercising their colonial muscles by taking more than 50% profit from all the French speaking countries economy. I might not be 100% accurate hence 50% but from a right source they take more even 60% and you expect the countries involved to progress? Why is the political turmoil today in Ivory Coast? Because the relationship between Mr. Gbagbo the incumbent president of Ivory Coast and France in particular has deteriorated since the time of Mr. Chirac the former president of France. I must tell you that I have imagined if I were God what would I offer to this country Ivory Coast? I could have fought off all the evil plans of France that works in support of America precisely Mr. Obama. It pains because Every African citizen rejoiced the day Mr. Obama won the presidential seat in America and today he support the evil interference of France in Ivory Coast. What's the meaning of United Nation? The organization used by France and America to protect their interest. Do you think that United Nations works in the country that has no natural resources? Ask yourself this question and make your research of the present situation in Haiti a neighboring country to America. Have you seen United Nations come out on top since there invention? They have failed in their entire mission. WHY? Because all their evil approach to political turmoil in African countries and the rest of world has not worked in their favor not withstanding that they still manage to accomplish what they are being sent for. Do you think they sponsor the UN for nothing? France and America will never invest where there is no gain. Take it or you leave it. United Nation have failed in their entire mission and if you think that I am not right, remember one country for me where they have worked to their potential without sentiments. My facts and figure shows that they have never fulfilled any of their mission. They last for years in the victim countries patrolling and chasing women. What happened in Haiti when the earthquake destroyed homes and displaced the population while the United Nation was heavily present in the country in QUESTION even before the crisis? They did nothing to help the situation. What brought the Cholera disease there in Haiti? It all started from the mess traced from the United Nations camp there. People are suffering and over one year after the earthquake nothing has being done to restore the people in distress. My dear, I must tell you that I have went, seen and now living as a witness of all the malicious atrocity committed by the United Nation in the name of Impartial Organization that need reform. Why have Russia and China always in dis-accord with their (UN) decisions? Because there is partiality in every of their policy. The UN SECURITY COUNCIL can only use their veto power to vote against the advances of Russia and China. I promise you one thing, One day France will fail with that foreign policy while all the French speaking country will have their total and complete independence. It is painful because I do not believe that as a Nigerian if British where allowed to continue like France maybe today we will be in a mess not withstanding we are already in a mess. God give us the serenity to know well from bad. Have you managed to see what is happening in Ivory Coast or do you always believe in the media? The other day it was announced that 5-6-7 women were shot dead without showing them to prove that it is true, but waste no time before you know what is happening it is in the media all over the world. They say RTI Ivory Coast Local Television) were instilling hatred in people, but have you taken you time to look into the TV to see exactly what they mean by instilling hatred in people? It is impossible to advance without media help hence the problem the Gbagbo regimes are facing today. None of people killed by the rebels allied with Mr. Quattara the former prime minister is shown in the media; even if it is shown they will turn it around to be victim of the killer Gbagbo. We all know the truth and we will stand by the truth. Many things are happening without any the world talking and as soon as it is I favor of their choice Mr. Quattara they will immediately talk even before people in Ivory Coast know what is happening. It is painful because it is affecting everyone. Cote d’Ivoire (Ivory Coast) has about 30-40% foreigners and those foreigners has nothing to do with voting. Would you consider those supporting the former Prime Minister Mr. Quattara as Ivorian? NO, because they have no right to vote and they are considered by the international community as Ivorian. Do you think that if Mr. Quattara is a real Ivorian man that he will allow them to suffer in the way they are suffering today? Can you imagine that banks just wake up one morning and closed up without even communicating with the clients 3months prior to the closure as stipulated in the Ivorian Constitution and when the incumbent president Mr. Lauren Gbagbo takes over the bank to find a solution to the suffering of his people, the international community will be first to condemn his action. The other day he signed a decree to assist the cocoa industry because the embargo by EU is affecting the industry, the United States call the act the act of criminal. What did they want, the death of the entire Ivorian because they supported Gbagbo? People re dying because of the sanctions and embargo given to Ivory Coast meaning a crime against humanity. It pains because what International community call the crime against humanity is when they announced that Gbagbo’s security forces killed peaceful demonstrators (rebels with arm). If you watch the video of what is actually happening, you will understand that every manifestation is accompanied with armed men in the middle and they will warn the journalist not to film. They are heavily armed with rocket launcher and the rest. It pains because the international community knows what is happening and refuses to act because of the interest of France. UNITED NATION always says Ivory Coast is in a brink of Civil war, WHY? Because they planned everything that is happening in Ivory Coast. If you want to know more please try to meet real Ivorian people and not the people claiming to be Ivorian. They are nice people that accept every one including myself and I can not come out tomorrow and claim to be Ivorian because I have lived and invested there. I am a Nigerian that do not care who wins or who loses, but when you see things go unnoticed you will understand that things are not right and should be told.

  • Comment number 34.

    I wish my post should be taken seriously because it is exactly what is happening here.

  • Comment number 35.

    Thank you, BNadette! This situation is so steeped in history, and fraught with institutional mishandling and manipulation that it boggles the mind.

    But it is important to qualify what she means by "bad things." For example, if someone comes in your house and shoots your mother, that is a "bad thing." And when you turn around and shoot them back, that is a "bad thing," too -- but not the same kind of "bad thing."

    If you were to look at the history of "bad things" that come under each of these men's sphere of influence you'd find a similar situation.

    Ouattara has been at the center of "bad things", since his time as Prime Minister and as the nations' economist, he was the "economic hitman" who allowed for the devaluation of the Ivorian currency, right after Houphouet Boigny's death. That began or worsened a downward economic spiral, which set the stage for later land disputes which eventually became fodder for ill will amongst the people.

    Then, as the rebels' raison d'etre, he has been just stage left during the 2002 coup d'etat attempt, and the ensuing 8 years of destructive occupation of the Northern part of the country, actions that further divided and destabilized the nation.

    Now he is at the center of this highly disputed election result, at least within the nation -- that is, amongst the community of people who actually have the right to vote (as opposed to the int'l community who do not have the right to vote in an Ivorian election, or to decide its results.)

    The rebels did not disarm disregardng terms of the treaty. They then engaged in ballot box stuffing, abuse and intimidation of voters, and other abuses in the North and west of the country. Those actions allowed for room for dispute of the results, which is what cost him – or should have cost him - the presidency. The constitutional court did dispute those results on those grounds - which was their right.

    Now, arguably in defiance of the nations' laws and constitution, he further strengthens his alliance with the rebels, naming their commander, Soro, his Prime Minister and Minister of Defense.

    Today, as a result of Soro's call for a “rebellion like in Egypt” (except unlike it because it is being waged by armed rebels) several communities in the nation are suffering, and death and chaos threaten to envelope the nation.

    On the other hand, Gbagbo has "bad things,” attached to him, too. But his are characteristically a reactionary. Both men can be associated with "bad things." But there is a difference.

  • Comment number 36.

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  • Comment number 37.

    At first why are they against recounting? BAN KI MOON the United Nations leader even went as far as saying that recounting will be an act of injustice to the clan of Quattara. Why? I don't understand even at this moment why it is an injustice. There was recount of votes in 2003 if I am right during bush era when his result was opposed by Gore. It is painful because the international community knows the problem (Mr.Choi)the UN representative in Ivory Coast that misinformed them but were looking to prevent truth from being told. Only God's intervention will save Ivory Coast. I care for them and I am also experiencing the suffering and know what they are passing through. They are people that likes life more than anything and they live in harmony if not for this setback that has strike them again.

  • Comment number 38.

    The only way now may be is to help or arm the former rebels and they throw Gbagbo out.
    The AU is absolutely useless. Zuma is not a good leader for his country and cannot give helpful leadership to the continent. So when you add that to Angola's and Zimbabwe's support for Gbagbo then you know that there is no hope for AU doing anything sensible. ECOWAS should not even listen to a useless AU. It is taking so long, the former rebels if they have any military credibility--this is the time to shine. Throw Gbagbo, but make sure you form a representative Government after that and introduce true democracy and do not start tricks to cling to power

  • Comment number 39.

    I hear you, Chris. I hear you. Many people hear you...
    But how to stop an elephant...?

  • Comment number 40.

    I'd have to say yes definetly. Split the country into north and south. One guy has north and the other guy has south. Easy. Or just get both these guys to walk away with a severence package and get a new fresh leader.

 

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