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Where do you listen to PM?

Eddie Mair | 15:08 UK time, Monday, 10 December 2007

This week, on our sister programme PM we're launching a brand new experiment.

All you need to know is the postcode you're in when you listen to PM. If you're travelling when we're on the air, we'll happily accept your best guess as to your postcode, or the rough location. If you're overseas, try the local postcode or zipcode.

Then just email your postcode to this address: ipm@bbc.co.uk Please put POSTCODE in the subject line.

Don't worry if you don't have email. You can pop it in the post too. Just send a letter or postcard with the postcode you're in when you listen to PM, to this address: iPM, Room G601, BBC News Centre, London W12 7RJ.

You're probably wondering what we're going to do with this information. Well, on iPM on Saturday we're going to start to build a map showing where people are listening to PM.

YOU'LL be able to see whether you're the only PM listener in the neighbourhood. As if.

I've already emailed iPM@bbc.co.uk put POSTCODE in the subject line and added W12 7RJ. So come on - where are YOU listening to PM?

(Please don't add your postcode on the comment link - send us an email)

Comments

  1. At 03:35 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Annasee wrote:

    Well I would have thought hundreds of postcards arriving with just a postcode written on them was a waste of the cost of a stamp. Not to mention incredibly boring for the poor sap who's supposed to be collating all this information.

    Can't you ask people to add a good joke, or a pithy comment about PM? Or a cartoon self-portrait? Recipe? anything in fact! I'm depressed on your behalf already at the mass of information but no communication.

    I trust the map will be in 3-D, papier-mache, with listeners' locations marked by pins with little flags on. And take up a large part of the office for weeks.

    Looking forward to the photos.

  2. At 04:03 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Stephen, Leader of STROP wrote:

    So what do we put if we're in the car? Start of journey, end of journey, or a list of all post codes passed through (that may take some time...)

  3. At 05:00 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Mike O'Bryan wrote:

    Edina -

    Happy to confirm my postcode as SW15 1QW - avid listener, well done!

    Mike

  4. At 05:25 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Ian Goddard wrote:

    Why did Eddie Mair not ask McNulty why police in Scotland are being paid the recommendation in full, and police in England aren't? The same thing happened with the nurses, which should again have been probed as McNulty brought it up himself.

    Another Labour politician being given an easy ride by the BBC.

    The imbalance between the 2 countries is becoming intolerable.

  5. At 05:34 PM on 10 Dec 2007, mark braden wrote:

    bt78 2nz

  6. At 05:36 PM on 10 Dec 2007, jILL DAWSON wrote:

    POSTCODE

    LE2 5AA

  7. At 05:40 PM on 10 Dec 2007, rod silvester wrote:

    b301un

  8. At 05:43 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Roberto Carlos Alvarez-Galloso,CPUR wrote:

    I listen to BBC PM and BBC iPM in Miami Florida 33135. Happy Christmas to BBC PM and BBC iPM.

  9. At 05:47 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Jane Smythe wrote:

    Don't have a post code yet, new area, but I listen in from the Maadi suburb in Cairo, Egypt. You guys keep me sane! Thanks

  10. At 05:54 PM on 10 Dec 2007, The Stainless Steel Cat wrote:

    Stephen (1):

    I imagine there are quite a few huge SUVs these days that have their own postcodes. If you don't have one of them... well, you're just not trying.

  11. At 06:21 PM on 10 Dec 2007, B.S. Gold wrote:

    I am an American but am listening to you now in Moscow, Russia. I am not sure about my correct zip code here, because we use our US address for mail.

    Great Radio, by the way, Thank you!!!


  12. At 06:25 PM on 10 Dec 2007, gill fincher wrote:

    i am listening to you at home in fy5 3jq
    half way between blackpool and fleetwood

  13. At 06:43 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Kevin Reynolds wrote:

    Unable to post my postcode? what gone wrong?

  14. At 07:11 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Tim wrote:

    Why not make a mashup of IP# and google-maps? Cf http://www.hostip.info/ for geo-ip lookups. Not always accurate, but a start.

  15. At 07:13 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Little Red wrote:

    does listen again count?

    I pretty much never catch the show at 5(GMT) as it's 6 where i am and i'm generally on the way home.

  16. At 07:14 PM on 10 Dec 2007, M Green wrote:

    Best programme on radio. dos not try to brainwash people - politicaly speaking.

  17. At 08:07 PM on 10 Dec 2007, paul wrote:

    BT82 9JG Still not able to listen on digital radio, but a great show.

  18. At 09:27 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Dorothy Woods wrote:

    I've tried now four times and keep getting my email returned
    What am I doing wrong?
    BH10 6BG

  19. At 10:22 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Stewart M wrote:

    As I usually get to home just before the Bongs I think I will use my home postcode. Its almost true. How about going one step up. ALl those SUV's will have GPS. That will give a LAtidude, Longitude and Altitude.

    Hey a 3D map.

  20. At 10:37 PM on 10 Dec 2007, HelenSparkles wrote:

    I had no idea PM listeners were spread so far afield!

  21. At 10:37 PM on 10 Dec 2007, mittfh wrote:

    Somehow I think there'll be several listeners at the BBC TV/News Centre postcode...including some listening to it "live" (as opposed to the few milliseconds delay of the analogue transmitted version, or the few seconds delay of the digital transmitted version).

    My postcode's been emailed off, but I think it's safe enought to publically state I listen in Kidderminster (yes, the carpet town! IIRC, we're still the home of: Adams, Bond Worth, Brintons, Brockway, Carpets of Kidderminster, Victoria, and Woodward Grosvenor)

  22. At 11:06 PM on 10 Dec 2007, Big Sister wrote:

    How about this for a postcode:

    TDCU 1ZZ

    I do sincerely hope there are people there who listen to PM, iPM, and the News Quiz ....

  23. At 06:35 AM on 11 Dec 2007, Ronan wrote:

    Regular listener here from Calgary Alberta Canada. Can you cope with a Canadian postal code? Hope so

    T3H3B1

  24. At 11:51 AM on 11 Dec 2007, John wrote:

    I listen to PM almost every evening whilst Im cooking my evening meal. Without PM the meal wouldn´t taste the same. The locals speak german here with a Bavarian accent. May I wish all the PM team a Very Happy Christmas und ein gute Rutsch im neuen Jahr
    (have a go slide into the New Year).
    Cheers

  25. At 12:25 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Elise wrote:

    I laughed when Eddie said "Are you the only ones listening in your postcode?" because we are fairly sure we are - we are in rural France, not the British ghetto and we KNOW

  26. At 02:39 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Errol Williams wrote:

    My post code is MK3 7LS

  27. At 03:04 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Brian Christley wrote:

    On Monday I was listening to PM whilst in bed with my 22 year old mistress, we were celebrating her success in the Miss World contest.
    Of course this is not true – but as I believe your interest may be part of this government’s addiction for surveillance, it is my attempt to corrupt their database.

  28. At 04:02 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Sandeep Bhandari wrote:

    I listen between Soton and Pompey. Eddie keeps my brain occupied through the otherwise painful journey. Thanks

  29. At 05:43 PM on 11 Dec 2007, barbara wrote:

    Yet again I can't make sense of this web site or blog. Edie says find summary of the government paper on play etc. at the blog. I've spent 5 minutes and can only find a blogg on post codes.
    It's far to complex. Please could we have a bit of simplicity?

  30. At 05:49 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Angela Allchurch wrote:

    I listen to PM at home in Wrexham, North Wales.
    Sorry it is not an exotic location! But thanks for a very interesting programme.
    Angela Allchurch

  31. At 06:01 PM on 11 Dec 2007, David French wrote:

    Like Elise we live abroad (rural Portugal.) However I didn't laugh. We don't no of any Brit residents in our vicinity.

  32. At 06:05 PM on 11 Dec 2007, bac wrote:

    Living in Sweden and listen to PM 'live', but have yet to catch ipm -- will do so on 'listen again' when I can make time. I greatly enjoy listening to Radio 4 via my computer -- please don't do anything that would stop my being able to receive the broadcast!

  33. At 06:05 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Syvia Dhenin wrote:

    I am simply sending you my post code. I could find no other place to post it.

  34. At 07:01 PM on 11 Dec 2007, John Lydon wrote:

    TN25 4BW

  35. At 08:04 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Reg Nicholls wrote:

    Last minute comment on Monday's prog - classic timing. However I would not trust this Big Brother Government. Mind you they may collect all the data and post it to.......? Pretty safe then!

  36. At 10:08 PM on 11 Dec 2007, Hugh McCann wrote:

    I listen to Radio 4 in Dundalk, Ireland. It has brightened up many's the long journey in the car. Well done and thanks.

  37. At 01:16 PM on 12 Dec 2007, Dr. S. Prokop wrote:

    If you measure London air pollution by international standards (not homegrown LAQN ones) you find it is often very dangerous, 2-5 times WHO or USA levels.These levels have been proven to damage childrens lungs for life.Sutton closed its one school based measuring site when it was reading in the red danger area by outdated standards.Why don`t you do serious public health stories any more?

  38. At 02:59 PM on 12 Dec 2007, Mark Wilson wrote:

    Although I mostly drive whilst listening to PM, I do listen at home to. So I have givrn in my postcode as DY4 Y7PA.

  39. At 04:39 PM on 12 Dec 2007, Jennifer Tracey wrote:

    Sorry if you've had trouble submitting your postcode to iPM via email.

    We've received thousands so should be getting through okay...Try us again at

    ipm@bbc.co.uk

  40. At 07:06 PM on 12 Dec 2007, Norma McKenzie wrote:

    postcode G824JS

    I do enjoy p.m.

  41. At 01:18 PM on 13 Dec 2007, theresa wrote:

    I listen to pm between KY1 1xw and PH2 9ND.
    what on earth are you going to do with that information Eddie? feed it to the Thought Police? will we be banned from listening to the radio incase I laugh or cry at an item... and crash!

  42. At 02:52 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Peter Wharton wrote:

    Happy Chritstmas and a Camelot New Year, TN23 5TD.

  43. At 03:50 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Denise wrote:

    TW1 4PL is where I normally listen. Surrounded currently by vacationing students and their teenage sister, and indeed more tinsel than one can comfortably imagine.

  44. At 05:56 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Geoff Leeming wrote:

    My Post Code for listening: LL65 2AQ

  45. At 05:59 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Alison Bullough wrote:

    If you've got loads of used stamps from this request I could use them please!
    I sell them for charity - the RNLI

  46. At 06:03 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Louise Simmonds wrote:

    Listen at
    TR22 0PL

  47. At 06:04 PM on 13 Dec 2007, george face wrote:

    I thought from listening to today`s programme i WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT MY POSTCODE LOOKED LIKE IN 1940`S BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING? dID I MISUNDERSTAND.

  48. At 06:05 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Richard Coulbeck wrote:

    Thanks for the programme, have a great Christmas from all at (67), DN34 5BD.

  49. At 06:10 PM on 13 Dec 2007, christine miles wrote:

    My postcode is KT10 1JB and I love PM......keep going with all the news and updates

  50. At 06:15 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Peter Hackman wrote:

    I hope that you are not going to loose this information on an unencrypted CD in the post! Imagine the chaos that could ensue if this information were to end up in the hands of a criminal mastermind.

  51. At 06:15 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Mrs E M Kent wrote:

    I listen to pm whenever I can. I used to miss pm on Saturdays, but liked 'The Bottom Line' and its precedecessor 'In Business'. Now ipm is a programme I like to listen to.

    Like Dr S Prokop, (is this a real name??) I believe that urban air pollution can be pretty bad. I have a friend who works in the blood testing department of the blood transfusion service. He often notes alarming levels of PM10 particulates in people's blood. We should be supporting our Local Authorities by cooperating with 'green initiatives', and they should be supporting us with viable and frequent joined up public transport systems, and far better provision for cyclists and pedestrians. Renewable and sustainable energies are far more available than people imagine, and we need to be using and developing these systems as though they were the only ones we have. Soon they will be!

    Liz Kent

  52. At 06:23 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Mrs E M Kent wrote:

    My Postcode is SO50 8DB

  53. At 06:37 PM on 13 Dec 2007, STAN BRITTEN wrote:

    Alllow a public service to have my postcode and
    e-mail address
    you must be crazy
    good show by the way

  54. At 06:51 PM on 13 Dec 2007, julian mead wrote:

    i listen from TN263SY toTN290SH, then my cats take all my attention

  55. At 07:20 PM on 13 Dec 2007, eddie mair wrote:

    Thank you for all the contributions here but we can't take postcodes on the Blog. To be included you'll need to email ipm@bbc.co.uk as that's where the map is being collated from. I see some people may have had problems emailing but please try...or write to iPM, Room G601, BBC TV Centre, London W12 7RJ.

  56. At 08:16 PM on 13 Dec 2007, eddie mair wrote:

    Thank you for all the contributions here but we can't take postcodes on the Blog. To be included you'll need to email ipm@bbc.co.uk as that's where the map is being collated from. I see some people may have had problems emailing but please try...or write to iPM, Room G601, BBC TV Centre, London W12 7RJ.

  57. At 08:41 PM on 13 Dec 2007, John Langford wrote:

    hd8 0aj. great programme

  58. At 08:43 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Ian Smith wrote:

    At the top of this column you wrote: 'Please don't add your postcode on the comment link - send us an email'. Then followed dozens of postcode contributions, despite your clear instructions to send an email or postcard to IPM.

    What does that say about our fellow listeners?! I hope they take more notice of your comment no.54 Eddie. You are so polite but some hardly deserve it.

    As you requested I have sent you an email with my postcode.

  59. At 08:45 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Mike Collar wrote:

    Can I add my bit to the contributions of Dr Prokop and Mrs Kent. We hear a lot about CO2 emmissions and how to combat them these days, as if this were the only environmental issue of any concern. Yet this is a very long term global problem while the nitrous and sulpher oxides and particulates spewed out by motor vehicles and aircraft are a very local and immediate problem and a significant health hazard. They are also a problem the goverment appears to be trying to sweep under the carpet. So PM please do your job and bring them to account, this is a much more important story than missing HMRC data disks, Gordon Brown's boycott of the EU treaty ceremony or any of the other stories you've dug up to embarrass the goverment lately.

  60. At 10:05 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Judith L. Dick wrote:

    We listen to radio 4 and 3 daily as we have no television,by choice. News and current affairs, plays, and womans hour. debates and book reviews, concerts and opera are superior in content and programing to anywhere. We can only compare with the many countries we have visited but it is a great homecoming to switch on our radio.

  61. At 11:52 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Mitch Barnes wrote:

    I love listening to radio 4 but I can barely receive it at all where I work, in Shoreditch, E1 6JJ right on the borders of the City of London. Radio 4 and Radio 2 frequencies are constantly invaded by pirate and jungle music stations spouting vacuous rubbish. Why is that? This applies to FM and as for DAB - it is totally unreceivable. Most DAB channels aren't available where I live in west London either. Or Chiswick, Wembley or Bounds Green, where I also work occasionally.

    Is this what we are to expect when DAB takes over or will the system actually work by then?

    New Technology: recent inventions that don't work properly yet...

    Keep up the good work though; when I can receive it, I love the Radio 4 news and would rather not listen to anything else when I'm getting up every morning.

    Best wishes,

    Mitch Barnes

  62. At 11:01 AM on 14 Dec 2007, Jim Lee wrote:

    I am a taxi driver so am on the move most of the time,but here is the post code of a very good restaraunt (Gurkha Kitchen, Oxted, Surrey)next to my taxi rank RH8 0AX.

    I am a very odd taxi driver, in that I switch my radio off when a customer gets in my cab. I do not believe I should inflict my listening habits on other people - it would be good to know what other people think about that.

  63. At 01:32 PM on 14 Dec 2007, CHRIS WALKER wrote:

    Listen travelling between S73 to home S7 2QS

  64. At 01:49 PM on 14 Dec 2007, terry Gashe wrote:

    like many listeners I listen on the move so I have tried to work out the transition from SN1 to OX12 in as few moves as possible....it has to be five.....SN1...SN4...SN7...OX7...OX9...OX12..well something like that. I never understood those brain teasers anyway

  65. At 03:29 PM on 14 Dec 2007, Eddy Cavin wrote:

    Great to hear a wee plug for a BBC Gaelic programme on last nights's PM. I watched Eòrpa's extended feature about Iraqis in Denmark after hearing about it on PM.
    Eòrpa is consistantly good current affairs programme, often covering stories ignored by the mainstream.
    Moran taing air dhuibh,
    (many thanks to you)
    Eddy.

  66. At 05:15 PM on 14 Dec 2007, Phil Moisey wrote:

    I listen on listen again from

    95380 Puiseux en France
    France

  67. At 05:45 PM on 14 Dec 2007, Liz Nixon wrote:

    At home, in SE21, either cooking my son's tea or working at my computer. Radio 4's usually playing on at least 2 radios/computer & radio simultaneously ... well not quite simultaneously, different delays between analogue, digital radio & computer means that I can either hear the same phrase three time running as I move about the house or lose 20 seconds, depending in which direction I'm moving. (BTW watching the cricket on a digital channel while listening on LW is great - you hear the commentary before the event so you don't miss the catch/6/whatever.

  68. At 07:15 PM on 14 Dec 2007, Dr N P Manjunatha wrote:

    I am very much fond of listening to Radio 4, especially while travelling. I like the unbiased interviews, especially with politicians. International issues are well covered.

    Post code: DH1 5FG

    Regards

    Dr N P Manjunatha

  69. At 08:22 PM on 14 Dec 2007, sally white wrote:

    I love PM - listening in West Wales, cooking dinner on the Aga and sipping red wine while my childeren rage war on each other, the PM team give me back my sanity at the end of the day thank you...

  70. At 10:05 AM on 15 Dec 2007, Morseman wrote:

    From the number of people posting their postcodes on the Blog, rather than following the instructions given, several times, on the air and in print on here, then I think far fewer people actually listen to what is being said than have their radios, or listen again/Podcast, tuned to the program...

  71. At 12:36 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Alasdair Lawrance wrote:

    The site is far too complex - it's a function of web designers being on a parallel universe.

    C4's 'The IT Crowd' was not a comedy show, it was a weekly documentary, more a true-to-life soap, really

  72. At 05:47 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Dave wrote:

    I listen on FM, when I can get it between the hundreds of pirates now on that band, in SE3 9HL.

    Dave

  73. At 06:04 PM on 15 Dec 2007, phillip wrote:

    i listened to your article about broad band speeds .. is the sales pitch from the providers not deliberately misleading .. and entirely on a par with the telephone scandal .. and surely in normal circumstances would be near fraud.. your web page waxes lyrical about b/b .. article forecasting bliss is dated 2005 .. seems somewhat out of date in a digital age and the facts as revealed in tonight's pm

  74. At 07:39 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Kevin Dempsey wrote:

    Re. Giving PSB your details Stan. Youve just given them your IP address from which all your data can be collected in an instant.

    Kev

  75. At 08:17 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Mike Howles wrote:

    I too was listening to the Broadband debate.

    It is a scam really but, if you know where to look there are excellent deals out there.

    For example I was suffering severely with Virgin Media, their so called 'up to 8Mb' service stretched the imagination when the speed I got was down to 22 kb/s (no, I'm not joking!!).

    Now being a bit of a techie (IT Admin) I did a search around the internet and found an 'enthusiasts' service provider that ranks in the top 5 in the UK. I moved there and now experience speeds which are above average for the UK (and, indeed Europe).

    So, it's partly down to BT and their poor hardware and infrasructure but mainly it's down to the big ISP's for supplying a service which is way below what they advertise. The average man in the street will never have heard of my ISP but will only know about the likes of Virgin, Tiscali, BT, AOL etc all of which provide a very poor service.

    Oh, and I pay less now too!! :-)

    It should be up to the OFT to get these ISP's to supply what they say they will supply.

    I am sure that I have a case against Virgin as they stated that they supplied a 'Broadband' service of up to 8Mb but I was getting a service below a very poor Dial-up which in reality is not a 'Broadband' service......is it?

    Anyway, I am happy with my new provider whose MD is always available to lend assistance and answers questions on their forum....all for free!!!

    Excellent.

    Mike Howles

  76. At 09:07 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Angela Lynch wrote:

    Hi, I made a simple map on google recently. It is called wild and free fruit. I have set it so that any one can add a fruit tree or bush that they know about. As I made it after autumn I did not put pictures of the fruit, but I shall next year. If you know of a free, (open to the public source of fruit) please put it on my map.

  77. At 09:01 AM on 16 Dec 2007, Carol Hales-Collins wrote:

    I listened with envy to the broadband debate.
    we live in Spain, we waited 6 years to get a telephone because Telefonica had a monopoly. We then waited 4 years for a broadband connection. Now, although we can use Spantel for all our calls, Telefonica will not allow anyone else to provide us with a broadband connection. Why? because they have cobbled something together which they call "Rural broadband" This is only for their convenience. We get up to 2mb. For this "wonderful" service we are charged 60 Euros monthly. No offers no calls take it or leave it! Is this right in Europe in 2007? Rip off it certainly is.
    Well nice to have a good moan
    Carol

  78. At 02:05 PM on 17 Dec 2007, Pat Coombes wrote:

    I only came for the map – where is it?

  79. At 01:26 PM on 18 Dec 2007, Rob Grover wrote:

    Like Pat at 78 I'm also struggling to find the map.

    Helpipm

  80. At 03:33 PM on 18 Dec 2007, Harvey Blair wrote:

    Can't find the map and the 1940s version is too small to identify one's post code. even with the zoom facility.

  81. At 03:58 PM on 18 Dec 2007, Alan Michael Rayner wrote:

    I am trying to find your postcode service where I can find out the geography of where I live in 1940. How do I do this

  82. At 05:39 PM on 18 Dec 2007, Hazell Jezek wrote:

    I can't see the map either!! When will it be there? I'm really looking forward to see if anyone else listens to pm in North Norfolk!!

  83. At 01:37 PM on 19 Dec 2007, Ken Poberezny wrote:

    OK, so where is this map. Always disappointing when technology fails, great programme though listening in the car gets me home just cropping the end bits off.

  84. At 04:27 PM on 19 Dec 2007, Ian Swinden wrote:

    I am being dim! I just figured it out..
    Ian

  85. At 06:40 PM on 19 Dec 2007, jane atkinson wrote:

    What a great programme! Will you be 'first footing' Eddie? Whatever please give my thanks to the PM team for making my journey home so mentally stimulating. A happy everything to everyone- yes my fellow listeners too!

    LE12 8PL (Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire).

  86. At 11:52 AM on 20 Dec 2007, Michael Barnes wrote:

    Radio 4 is fab. Ditch You & Yours and the morning service while cricket is on and it could be damn near perfect.
    EX14 9LS

  87. At 02:36 PM on 21 Dec 2007, Paul Obebe wrote:

    I drive my 13 year old boy from Grays to Stanford Le hope in Essex every Tuesdays and Fridays evenings. for piano lessons. Guess what!! I wait in the car listening to PM.
    I think I over heard something like Black people do not listen to Radio 4... We do!!
    PM is fantastic and more so educative, I think It's UP THERE!!!

  88. At 10:44 PM on 22 Dec 2007, bill bailey wrote:

    hey everyone I spend all car time and early evening as well as saturday mornings listening to R4 and its the donkeys except for all the repeats and repetition of comments already said minutes earlier, apart from the deja vu its almost as good as music

    hey everyone......

  89. At 03:11 PM on 08 Jan 2008, Sarah O'Sullivan wrote:

    I usually listen in the car between AB10 and AB23 8BJ. Unless it's friday in which we're more likely to be headed for somewhere with a PH or IV postcode and a greater height above sea level than home.

  90. At 01:19 PM on 09 Jan 2008, Rob Lewis wrote:

    I know this is a cringeworthy joke but if Barack Obama became president would America be an Obama-nation!

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