Where are you listening? - The Map
UPDATE: Thanks to all who contributed to the map. As Eddie mentioned submission of postcodes is now closed. However, if you posted a letter to us before the deadline we'll post that even if the Christmas mail delays its arrival at PM towers. EDDIE ADDS on 31 Dec: We are still getting a regular stream of postcodes sent to us. We're sorry but nothing we received after thje Friday before Christmas will be added to the current map. Though who knows what we'll do in future!
GEORGE WRITES:
Here's the map we discussed on the programme this week. We asked you to tell us where you were listening and you responded in droves. We've received 17,000+ 22,000+ emails at the last count, and so far we've added about four eight nineteen thousand them all.
The best place to see the map is on Google Earth. This is a free programme but requires an install. Once it is installed on your computer you can view the map by clicking here.
You can also see the locations on Google Maps, but due to the large number of markers, it won't show all the pins at one time, and tends to be less precise than in Google Earth. To see more pins, simply zoom in and out to the general area you would like to view, using the '+' and '-' controls in the top-left-hand corner of the map.
We want to 'mashup' this data with other interesting sources, so let us know in the comments if there's any interesting data we could mix this up with. You can also mashup the data yourself in Google Earth - tell us if you do so and we'll highlight the best ones here on the blog.
UPDATE: Chris says: I took a trip around Google Earth with Eddie. A little hard to translate something so visual into sound..so here is a video of our route.
We mentioned a couple of things to see. The 1690's map of London is here, you can also watch the City grow here. Rising sea levels are visualised here For other interesting things to see in Googe Earth try Googlesightseeing or OgleEarth
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hmmm sent my postcode not on the map, oh well!
Re (1)..exactly what is it about "We've received 17,000+ emails at the last count, and so far we've added over four thousand. If you don't see your location and postcode right now, check back again later in the week." that you don't understand?
Good to see all the new systems that you are abel over the World
I simply have to have the first pin in the Noble Blankshire of Cumbria - find my email quick!
Does this reflect the number and place of the listeners, or the program transmission areas covered? Is there any info about how the people heard the program - Short wave, FM, internet, satellite...
My postcode isn't showing as registered :-(
I’ll check back again later in the week...
The program also talked about interesting things people are doing with maps. Given that PM is a news program, I thought people might be interested to see our weekly "world leaders next week" map - most recent example, http://www.oxan.com/worldnextweek/2007-12-13/map.aspx
Oh no! 22029 in Greece in the beautiful village of Tyros on the east coast of the Peloponnese not in the USA.....................and it looks like Texas.........they don't know there is any where else in the world.
What map source are you using? St John's is the capital of Newfoundland and the largest city, not Mt Pearl which your map shows more prominently.
My area postcode does not appear.....yet!
I love this! Not seen mine yet but will track it every day. PM's just great! Thanks for news /fun.
I expect someone clever could add photos from geograph.org.uk for all the British Isles postcodes.
Radio 4 listeners might also be interested in locating their postcodes on the NPE map here:
http://www.npemap.org.uk/
You can also see what your home town looked like 50 years ago on this site.
Etienne
Brilliant project, interesting to see where people feel they should "flag" their membership to this radio 4 listening group, AND more, those who don't! I sent our postcode off then checked the map to find a complete lack of pins for SN8....hmmm is the internet world smaller than I thought? Not judging the mails I get from freecycle in Wiltshire.
Keep up the great work!
Presumably the riposte to (2) is "what exactly is it about 'My postcode is more important than those of all the other riff-raff who listen to your show' that you didn't manage to know instinctively without being told"?
Howard @ 10:
The map source is TeleAtlas (look at the bottom of the map!), who in this implementation are providing their data to Google.
As TeleAtlas also supply their mapping to many SatNav companies, if the maps are wrong, be afraid, be very afraid!
(Welcome to Café 502 x3 [this'll be my fourth attempt - apologies if any of the previous ones get through!]) For the benefit of 'regular' PM listeners: SB17, 00:48
You're not processing these emails by hand are you?
Scanning text for postcodes is a trivial programming problem and Google has a perfectly good APi for putting markers on maps.
I'm sure any university computer science department would have been more than happy to set this as a first year project if you don't have the resource to do it yourself.
You guys need to set and manage expectations (i.e. We're the BBC and Oxbridge modern language graduates haven't yet got the hang of this internet thingie) rather than being offensive to listeners (yes, Eddie(2), I'm talking to you).
Some of the flags I saw yesterday (near where I live) have disappeared!
I suspect a government plot to dupe the BBC into getting all the pinkoes who listen to Radio 4 to reveal where they live so they can be eliminated. Happy Herodmas, everyone!
Interesting to see how many listeners there are in Africa, and contemplate the miserable amount of news items there always are from Australia, China, India, Russia, South America etc compared with the plethora of items about Africa. If some clown in the backwoods of Ghana has an ingrowing toenail there will be a BBC team there to document it for us. Why is the BBC so interested in Africa and so uninterested in the EU and the rest of the world?
You have my post code DH9 6UT on the map but it is in the wrong area. It is listed as Cookson place and should be Kinross drive, a matter of about 1/2 a mile away.
John ( 18 ) tks for the message. Yes this is new and perhaps we are working outside our normal comfort zone as journalists. I think we are now up to around 7 or 8 thousand entries on the map and we are still receiving thousands by the day. There are few technical issues importing so many pieces of data on to the google map - which we are working through. That's why we have been explicit in all our posts and what we have said on air that many will have to check back. This will take us some time. Tks again - Rupert - Lancaster ( BA Hons )
Mine, of course, has yet to appear, although sent on the 10th.
The one showing near me is shown at the wrong village, some four miles (and a considerable mountain mass) from the village (also shown on the map) where it should be.
What sort of postcode locations is this software using? The delivery folk or the AA wouldn't find it very useful.
Still, for a pointless exercise, I reckon it'll do...
Salaaaami
ed
There appears to be something wrong here. A TQ postcode is plotted in West Midlands/North Worcestershire border?
Eddie @ 2, no need to be quite so cross: it may not be the fault of the user, except insofar as whoever it is may not be using your team's approved-acceptable software. Anyhow, s/he @ 1 may have been being resigned to looking over and over again, rather than complaining because s/he didn't get an instant result. Have another cup of coffee, do.
George's statement 'Here's the map' is not so in all cases: there is no map as far as my system is concerned. There is a banner for 'Google', which says that 'Your search for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/ipm_map.kmz around this map area did not match any locations. ' and will show nothing else.
Not very impressive, that, for those of us who don't have the advantage of having bought the latest shiny Micro$oftware and installed all the precautions necessary to protect ourselves from its many drawbacks.
Eddie @ 23, it's certainly what I would call a pointless exercise, on that basis, but is it really good enough?
I would let you have my postcode along with my email address but two little words stop me - Identity Theft.
What is the point of taking part in a fun exercise like this if one's submission is ignored?
I e-mailed my postcode in on Monday 10th at 17.33 but, like many others judging from the comments above, it does not appear on the map.
It would have been the only flag north of Inverness....or would it????
Oh brilliant! Mine's not on there yet (though if you zoom in like it says up the top, more appear in areas where it appears there are none) but someone who lives just down the road is on it. I'd never have thought there were PM listeners in Elmswell!
David (27) for goodness sake, I don't think anyone is being ignored. Just how much effort do you think it takes to upload 17000 postcodes? I think it's impressive that so much has been done so quickly. The alternative would have been to wait until everyone's postcode had been added and then publish the final map, but I like the immediacy of this.
I'm going to get accused of maliciousness in a minute, but my final comment is that if you can use the Google Earth map using George's link, it is much better and there are many more map pins visible - including loads north of Inverness!
Great idea!
Last time I looked there were two pins in my town. I've added my postcode, but when I returned the two pins have gone and mine isn't there either. (I have zoomed right in to check.)
I see that my post code did not make it on to the map.
John (18) - I make no apology for what I wrote.
Do look at the Google Earth version if you can - it is much easier to use and seems to have loads more pins on it. Also the addition of the geographical features makes it all the more fun.
Honestly, I'm not trying to dominate this thread but I am so excited and I do want everyone else to see how wonderful this is too. I've just discovered (with the help of 12 year old boy, naturally) that if you click on the pins on the Google Earth version, they magically expand into several - I found my own postcode this way!
William @21 half a mile out, Ed @23 four miles out: that's nothing - BT52 1NA (not mine, incidentally) in Coleraine is showing up just outside Bristol, 300 miles away!
"Once it is installed on your computer you can view the map by clicking here."
I can't - I get a pile of junk. Yes, Google Earth is installed.
Mac OS X 10.4.11
Sid
I'm totally sold on Google Earth as the best way to view this huge amount of info. Thx to all for your patience - yes there are plenty of glitches..some poor old so and so from SE19 has ended up at the northern tip of Muckle Flugga and yes there are rogue codes here and there. We think we know why this is and are working on a fix. RachelG - whoever you are - thx too for your encouragement..really pleased to hear that you share our excitement at all of this. Again, if you can't find your postcode just yet - we are working on it - we had the best part of 500 new ones in the post alone, but we will get there.
Slightly puzzled as to why I have to save the map to view it if I click the link.
While the image on the blog at the moment shows me the environs of Brussels. Lots of PM listeners there? A good sign if that's so - maybe the EU regards it as a must.
What method do you use for converting postcodes to physical locations on Google Earth? I know you've got a massive task, but around my home town - Inverness, Scotland - we're all IV..., but I see BA9, (Shaftesbury area), LN6 (Lincoln), BL2, GL8, RM11, LE11, LE2, AL10, DT1, HR4...
It's a fascinating exercise, but if it's all as inaccurate as my area, the worth of it is suspect!
Sent in over a week ago - nothing showing anywhere near my area.
As a survey it seems as useful as a chocolate tea-pot
Re (39): isn't BA9 Wincanton, as in near Bath (hence the BA?)
And all you people in the UK whingeing about not seeing your flags yet - at least there are some in the UK...I'm in Rome, and Italy doesn't appear (at least as far as my software will let me see) any yet....but I'm optimistic that we'll be there soon!
sorry to be boring but yo have put my post code pointer in the wrong place. it's our company post code and is unique to us. it is SW1V 2SS and is on the south east corner of Vauxhall Bridge Rd and Regency St.
If you're relying on Google Maps to place the postcodes for you you should be warned that it can be a tad unreliable at times if run from a script. I've got a customer whose offices we tried to place on a map simply by feeding Google Maps a set of postcodes. It simply wasn't reliable. In the end we switched to latitude and longitude and even which is better but still not perfect.
My Christmas plans were going so smoothly, but now I've been relocated a couple of miles east by your locator and I can't get a removals lorry before Christmas for love nor money.
I do feel sorry for you PM folk. Fancy letting us see this as 'work in progress'. Whose idea was that? Management? Ha!
Anyway - never mind about postcodes, I can see my new shed on the map!
We already have a script that pattern matches and then rips data out of email and writes it to the Google API xml markers file.
Would be able to process all 20,000+ emails in about half an hour.
Wouldn't want the job of inputting the snail mail data though!
Good job guys, fantastic to see the map so far and really looking forward to the 'finished project'
Most strange.....
The original Isle of Man pins have gone.... and have been replaced with B91 and HG1 codes...
Good - but must try harder next time!
What a fantastic idea of PMs to show where people listen. I cannot find mine though on the map.
Eddie, please email the location where you are having a strop whilst reading the blog.
Todays PM Newsletter;
"We're very excited about our Postcode Map. It now contains more than eight thousand postcodes...with more than 12,000 to go. We've improved it too: now you can swoop over the country, and by clicking on each pin, lots of new information pops up. We'll explain more on the programme tonight, but if you can't wait, go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ipm/2007/12/map_listeners.shtml" i.e. this page
So on looking I find a peevish blog.
Ironic - the BBC's continued (seemingly ad nauseam) gushing desire for information is directly proportional to the inability to process it effectively in meaningful time. And the liverish nature of some Mr. Mair's responses does little to convince me he considers licence payers worthy of respect. If you invite your core listeners to participate, at least be nice to them, even if you are frustrated that they don't read what you say. Or is it "cheap content, but we really don't value you that much"?
Bah Humbug.
I'm afraid I'm not sold on Google Earth. Google Maps does have a reasonable grasp of UK postcodes, but Google Earth is very weak. All postcodes in my village are "dumped" in the middle of a wood across the valley. Also the name of my large village does not appear, while the names of several nearby hamlets,and even some farmhouses (sort of suburbs) do. Is there some technical reason for using Google Earth rather than Google Maps?
Sid, me, too, or me, neither.
I did post earlier, no 502, about the download, but it hasn't appeared. But I'm not going to complain.
Hey - someone lives near me who listens - you should offer a contacting service so we can get together! (errm, I am happily married by the way...)
Er, so how does one install ipm_map.kmz then? My machine says it doesn't recognise the file extension! Help please!!
Hmmmm......last time I checked, my car didn't have a post code. So what do you want? Home? Office? or the garage midway between the two where I stop for coffee and a bacon-buttie?
SC (50) we've gone to great lengths to give out accurate information at all times...including that it would take weeks to put up all the postcodes. Few programmes want or get such a large and welcome response from their audience. We regularly get comments that might be deemed negative, but we reckon they are fair comment. It's what blogging is about. If however someone is going to rush to the blog and then rush into print expressing their disappointment at something we have clearly explained, then they will have to accept some criticism too. You mistake honest criticism for "strop". Goodness! We're not people's punchbags. Sorry if that disappoints.
Fantastic idea but unfortunately the Postcodes are all lumped together by the first 4 characters (or first characters and numerics, ignoring the last lot of characters)
ie
BA2 6QH
BA2 6AJ
BA2 6BS
BA2 6HF
BA2 6JH
BA2 6RL
BA2 6SH
all are on one spot presumably one of the postcodes, but not mine. About a mile away.
This might work in the wilds of Scotland but is not much use when we are down to street level.
Could this be because Google was ivented for the US where zip codes are all numeric?
I may be being very dim, but is the link to enter your postcode not working at present?
4.30pm Wed 19th.
Kind regards
Avid Radio 4 fan
Ian
Mr.Mair. (56) Thanks for the response. I don't believe I'm mistaking "honest criticism" for strop.
Why would you feel it necessary to criticise, honestly or otherwise, your valued listeners and bloggers? Even if you do consider them worthy of it?
In other circumstances normally both you and Mr.Humphreys would suggest it better to respond to the actual questions, in this case on IT content, IT procedures, lack of sensitivity in analysis, apparent dependence on manual data entry, reliance on Google downloads and Microsoft OS .
Set yourselves up, don't deliver and then criticise the listener comment. Nobody forced you to embark on this excercise. And to suggest you are being treated as "punchbags" does seem a little precious.
But I'm sure the blog will speak for itself.
I don't see any markers for France yet. Have you decided not to include this paradise of expats?
SC (59) criticism...for the...um...reason I outlined in my previous post.
The actual questions were not one in the original post, which is the one I responded to. I'm responsible for my response, not the BBC's IT.
And one more time: we're doing just what we said we would do. We're doing just what we are constantly updating people about. If the sense of that is lost on some people, I can't be responsible for that.
People's comments always speak for themselves, I find.
John 60 - they are there...give Google earth a go. I saw lots of pins in France and Spain
I'd like to add a vote of support for Eddie's non-stropping....an amazing amount of people do seem incapable of reading the upfront information. I think (2) is really quite restrained...
Here in Turkey our postcodes are only at city level - can I send you a GPS point instead?
K
Where do I find the map of listeners in my area?
This is an excellent idea, but some of the comments are rather depressing. We seem to have been transformed from a nation who hardly ever complained about anything (my parent's generation) to one in which the principle seems to be to complain first and think later.
Mr Rutherford's comments aren't worth bothering with, Mr Mair. I think he is rather enjoying his little fume. His use of 'liverish' probably tells you all you need to know about him.
I find it amusing that there's not a pin in BH yet, though you have a few in TVC.
Do none of the bosses listen then!!!?
I think you ought to explain that viewing the maps in the hope of seeing your postcode is not possible with a dial-up connection. I can't get any of them up.
I find it amusing that there's not a pin in BH yet, though you have a few in TVC.
Do none of the bosses listen then!!!?
Marvellous...and only 3 miles out...now be honest I bet you're really regretting having started this, aren't you?
Yippee,
Well done Eddie, I can't see my pin yet, but if I zoom in enough I can see from the shadow in my garden that the wife must have done some washing (very rare indeed) the day that the photo was taken.
Ain't I sad.
B'n'B
Mike(65)
Go to the map at the top of the page and click the map button. That will open another site with two panes on the page.
Right pane map, left pane post codes.
Scan down the code list and when you find yours, click it and the map will change to your location.
B'n'B
I had thought of suggesting getting the users to enter their postcodes directly to cut down on the cost, error rates and time delay, but having read some of the earlier posts, I realise that the gbp isn't as computer literate as I'd thought.
I'm surprised that google earth can handle this amount of data - I'm assuming that the bbc checked the process first for cost/accuracy and the technology for scalability.
interesting exercise.
YO19 4RE
Eddie,
I'm going to support you and more than likely upset quite a few people in the process.
This postcode thing is a bit of fun, it isn't life or death.
You lot out there lighten up for Ch****'s sake, I don't think I've ever seen this many Trolls on one Blog before.
B'n'B
The truly farcical situation where the PM programme staff proudly demonstrate the fact that they haven't a clue as to how to harness the power of computers to process large amounts of data is surely beyond parody.
I was initially prompted to write in response to the programme's repeated progress reports on the number of postcodes "keyed in". Such stupidity almost beggars belief. However my original concerns have been addressed by John Wilson and SC Rutherford.
So having read through the comments I'm only writing to express my sadness at the bewilderment shown in your responses to Wilson and Rutherford. However I'm not surprised to see that the BBC, being part of the public sector, conforms with Central and Local Government practice of using computers as a means of generating work rather than reducing it.
Sadly there appear to be millions of you that have never known or appreciated the fact that the original purpose of computers was to be labour saving devices. The dumbing down of Britain continues.
To anyone who is complaining about any of the following:
* My postcode isn't there yet
* My postcode is in the wrong place
* I'm in my car, I need a moving postcode
Life is too short to moan about such trifling matters.
Maybe your postcode isn't there yet. Nor is mine. Hopefully it will turn up. Maybe it will be in the wrong spot. Maybe the sky will fall in tomorrow.
To Isobel (42) and Michael (65)
To see listeners in your area, zoom out on the map using the slider, then move over to your area using the arrows, and zoom in.
Cheers, Ian
Ian (74)
You forgot to include one more star:
* maybe this whole exercise is a futile waste and bigger than originally aniticipated which may require the original thinker to come out and say that they are scrapping the project
Just a thought!
merry xmas all.
Prabat (78) Scrap? Scrap? I'm sorry but to quote the late, great Karen Carpenter - we've only just begun.
Tim Silver (54) - you have to have Google Earth installed to be able to use that file.
To everyone else - this is not a scientific survey, it's fun - so enjoy it!
Sid
I can't seem to find the map and we do have Google Earth installed already :o)
um, I have seen more out of place codes than correct ones in my area. I can assure you that the Brighton does not languish under an LL post code!! (O:
Still, great idea and the added info and imaginative thoughts from other listeners is, as ever, brilliant.
Well, mine's there, and in the right town... but it seems Im living in an Italian restaurant half a mile away (and definitely with a different post code even according to the map!)....
Dear Eddie
I emailed my postcode on the second day possible, but it is not on the map. It is SY23 3RA, near Aberystwyth.
The R4 FM wavelength here is 104, and not a lot of people know that - they just think you can't get R4 here.
My post code is there - but I seem to have been moved to the other side of the town. I can see my car outside the house where I live on the satellite picture, however.
I'll have a look at the house where my postcode is located and see if I prefer it. If so I'll move in and say PM told me to. Could be an interesting legal case.
The whole idea is brilliant. Don't take it so seriously.
Well done PM.
I think this is great fun! Not only have I rediscovered Google Earth, but I now realise how many of my neighbours listen to PM. More conversation at the pub, then!
What I do find mystifying is the 'groan, moan, whinge' nature of many of the posts. 'Can't find my postcode' ... 'Postcode wrong for area' ... 'Why do you want the info anyway' ... etc, etc. Perhaps this project proves once again one of the weaker sides of our national character - you know, 'weather's rubbish, rugby team's rubbish, football team's worse, we tried that last week/month/year and it didn't work, weather's rubbish, when can I retire? etc'
Lighten up people! This is an experiment! And we can't predict the result. And I think it's quite funny that my village is NN6 and nearby we have GU something. But don't blame the IPM team for this - it's not their software.
Anyway, why aren't you doing something more productive than emailing a radio programme? Or are you like me and don't have enough to do with your time?
Well done IPM!! Great stuff. And Eddie, don't be so grumpy (although I can understand why you might be!)
What about Mac users? Or is it unique to me - clicking on the link to the Google Earth map above, all I get is screeds of programming. Any idea why?
PS can anyone tell me why western Ireland is just a blur?
My post code still not displayed after several days. Should I re-submit it?
As you say, there are some misplaced pins. You may find it helpful to know that there is a cluster of wrong postcodes in the greater Bristol area, which should all be BS... postcodes. Bristol seems to have made a takeover bid for bits of Oxford and other cities.
Andrew (89), no. Provided you emailed it to ipm@bbc.co.uk or sent it to the correct address, it should be fine. We are hoping to be able to announce today a BIG increase in the numbers of postcodes posted...if you follow me.
Chris (88) thank you but I am never grumpy on the blog. Forthright perhaps... :o)
I think this is a fascinating project. Obviously there are a few problems but a little reason would suggest this is to be expected. I am a huge fan of both Today and PM, having been brought up on them and it seems a bit peevish of people to expect them to work miracles. My postcode isn't on yet but I'm not complaining - I'm sure they're doing their best. Good work guys.
Looks as though Apple Mac users may have to interpret the junk which comes on screen when they "click here" as instructed. Like Sid Cumberland (37), i have Google Earth installed and running on Mac OS X 10.4.1. But at least I'm not complaining that my pin is in the Outer Hebrides - but I might be if I could see the map.
Well I'm not there yet (though I am being patient!) but have found another PM listener in my village. Hooray - I generally feel like a lone voice in the pub when I talk about PM, The Now Show, etc...
Well I'm not there yet (though I am being patient!) but have found another PM listener in my village. Hooray - I generally feel like a lone voice in the pub when I talk about PM, The Now Show, etc...
Interesting to know how you are going to identify street names from French postcodes, since they don't specify any more detail than the town. Until I moved to the the nearby town recently, I didn't even have a street name!
Google Map is a much better definition than Google Earth in rural areas.
I'm not yet on Google Map but I have been on Google Earth for several days (about twenty miles too far north).
They must be processed separately.
Only one listener on the Isle of Wight ?( I think there were two last week !) I get the feeling someone is throwing darts randomly....after a few festive drams ?
Like you liz - I had a friend around the corner who has now disappeared?
I'm still not listed in Bournemouth either :-(
and as for Eddie never being grumpy!
More lies from the BBC.
ROTFL and LOL
LMAO
I have just sent in my postcode and looked at the Google map. Unfortunately Google is a bit behind the times. I live on Anglesey. This is a separate authority and not part of Gwynedd. It is true that for a while we were lumped with the neighbouring council but in 1995 regained our independence. I really wish companies would stop relying on outdated information.
Please do not display my name. You can display Berkshire UK but no name
I am saddened and almost apalled at some of the negative comment above . I am in agreement with Ian Johnson from New Zealand.
My post code is about 500 metres out. Does that matter?To me no.
This is a very brave experiment by PM and Radio 4. and is to be applauded. . There are bound to be hitches with such an ambitious project. Who hasn't had computer problems? !!!!
We do not know how fortunate we are to have the quality of programmes which Radio 4 offers including PM . Where else in the world would one be able to listen to such a high quality output.
I'm lucky, my postcode pin is out by about three back gardens. Its probably as accurate as Google earth conversion from Post code to Latitude and Longitude. I am sad enough to know where my car is parked in earth as its not by my house!
All the L37 (Formby) flags seem to have vanished and worse mine never appeared.
Is the system unable to cope with all us eager listeners ?
An awful lot of N.Ireland listeners have gone down the plughole! And I never made it onto the map. Ah well!
I e-mailed my post code within 30 mins of Eddie Mair's invitation. Not only is it not on the map, but the ones that were marked have disappeared!
Great work and a big thanks to the iPM-team! Wonders how much work it was to extract all the postcodes from the emails. Let alone to add them at GoogleEarth.
@MikeB (post 95): Actually, you have to work around to get to see the pins. Just Ctrl+click on the "click here"-link. Then choose "Save link as ...". Make sure to save it as .kmz - file. Then open GoogleEarth and open the file, which was just saved. Hope that works! :)
I was hoping to see my tiny Czech village of Uholicky recognised on the ipm map, but to no avail - it is on google maps, but my postcode submission has failed. It is 252 64 if it isn''t too late to rectify the omission.
Well done, good effort, like many my postcode entry failed to be mapped. Never mind, good idea, keep it up.
Wow......I cant believe the global reach of Eddie and the team! Fantastic job.
Nothing doing on the Google map, and I have opted not to install Google Earth. I hope this exercise was of use to somebody.
I did send my postcode in, I DID I DID I DID and it's not there. I live on Guernsey so it's not like it would be hard to find. I know it's just a map but quite honestly it's made me lose all faith in humanity and I'm going to spend the rest of my life sitting in a cobweb-filled room wearing a wedding dress, staring at a mouldy wedding cake. Oh, Eddie - it could all have been so different....
I'm on the whizz-bang Google Earth version (yay me) but not on the Google Map (boo)...
Happy New Year
Gareth (PL31 2PJ)
Er, I'm in Struer 7600 Denmark, but according to the map I and whoever else might be in Struer, well, we're located in a largish bit of the Limfjord. I can't swim....
But the map's good fun... he says, glugging in a very cold drowning sort of voice.
Godt Nytår
Tim
I sent my postcode by e-mail before the deadline, but still it hasn't been put on the map. This is disappointing, as to listen from Japan I need to be awake at 2:00 am and I'm a regular listener!
Why is my dads Pin the only one in the world, I can find, that has a name tag rather than a post code?
Well done, keep up the good work.
WOW! just got round to looking at the map....gosh there's a lot of us impers around the world, my pin is however two streets off but still....and I'm the only one here :-( come on Leicester folk...get your pins in!
Very dissappointed to post my postcode at least twice and not find it on the map was ZE2 9BX.
Are you just waisting my time and stroking your own ego's by putting some in and oters not?
Open University.
ref:- Minister of State - Bill Rammell.MP
I am a Labour Party member and was when Jennie Lee with Prime Minister Harold Wilson created the Open University. I also gained a Bsc(Open)hons with the Open University. Governments tend to bounce along the bottom to maintain power but occasionally they introduce innovations that are of great significance. The Open University is such an innovation.
Alas since it’s creation with the fall of the Labour Government in 1979 subsequent Governments both Tory and Labour have constantly removed support to the extent that the original principal is almost completely undermined. It has become increasingly more expensive to get a degree with the Open University such that it is rapidly becoming like other universities only for those who can afford it.
I heard Rammell argue that Government money is being directed towards those who wish to gain their first degree. That is so much spin because many poorer students who wish to get their first degree are now being priced out of studying with the Open University.
The Open University was created to enable people to study who did not have the opportunity to study at normal university age. It enabled students to ‘pay as you go’ and work or manage a home or look after their children and take the chance they had missed to gain a degree.
The Minister Bill Rammell is now saying that Open University students should be competition for funds with other seats of learning for a first degree. This is disingenuous and misleading the public by drawing a comparison with general education.
Ron Bridle Bsc. hons (Open)
Hello, I don't know why all of you are complaining about Eddie replying to your messages, at least you are getting replies even if you don't like the answers.
Having written to PM with our post code and asking for help with what seems to be a BBC inspired problem and subsequently followed links which ended up on the world service website, and then re-sent details of the problem I havn't even had the courtesy of an acknowledgement.
Beats me why the Beeb are so keen to promote useage of the web to listen to the programmes and then can't be bothered to offer help when there are problems.
Keep up the good work Eddie,
Say what you feel.
Denis.
Not many other listeners in Newfoundland are there! The pin is about 200 m from my house.
Hello,
All of you that complain about Eddie's responses shoud be grateful that you get a response! I have written before Christmas with both a post code and a request for help when listening with a wi-fi radio, no reply of any sort. I then wrote again having followed the link which led to to the world service?. again nothing...
It's all very well the BBC plugging on and on about how good the internet services are if they won't help when you have a problem.
Keep up the good work Eddie.
Regards, Denis
Hello,
All of you that complain about Eddie's responses shoud be grateful that you get a response! I have written before Christmas with both a post code and a request for help when listening with a wi-fi radio, no reply of any sort. I then wrote again having followed the link which led to to the world service?. again nothing...
It's all very well the BBC plugging on and on about how good the internet services are if they won't help when you have a problem.
Keep up the good work Eddie.
Regards, Denis
Finally got to see the map in full & it's pretty good, but I'm in one of Google's black spots - Goodle is convinced that I live in Scalloway, which I don't: ZE2 9JR is about 5 miles north of Sumburgh (the main airport in Shetland) (Scalloway is part of the ZE1 area). This is a 'known known' of Google, but does undermine the reliability of the information: what about the 'unknown unknowns'?
Finally got to see the map in full & it's pretty good, but I'm in one of Google's black spots - Goodle is convinced that I live in Scalloway, which I don't: ZE2 9JR is about 5 miles north of Sumburgh (the main airport in Shetland) (Scalloway is part of the ZE1 area). This is a 'known known' of Google, but does undermine the reliability of the information: what about the 'unknown unknowns'?
I sent in my Post code.
Why cant I see it?
WD23 2DJ
Bit galling that there's not one pin on the Houses of Parliament....