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The 1940's House

Rupert Allman | 10:25 UK time, Thursday, 13 December 2007

Our thanks to Alex Willmer who has drawn our attention to another post code driven project. He says

While you are submitting your postcode to iPM, please add your postcode to NPE Maps and see how your home town looked in the 1940s. It has detailed, out of copyright maps from the 1940s. They aren't collecting any personal details - no names, no house numbers - just postcodes.

Carlisle

I couldn't resist. We'd very much like to hear from anyone else who might be involved in a similar project. So far we have received in excess of 13,000 postcodes. And as the excitement builds, so too does the map making. More soon.

Comments

  1. At 12:51 PM on 13 Dec 2007, bee wrote:

    yet again, I don't exist because I have a BT (Northern Ireland) postcode. . . It would be nice to be either Irish or British, it's being in limbo that bothers me.
    So many websites don't recognise Northern Ireland postcodes. A recent attempt to get photos printed through Apple website resulted in me giving up in frustration after being repeatedly asked for a 'valid' postcode.

  2. At 01:07 PM on 13 Dec 2007, bee wrote:

    yet again, I don't exist because I have a BT (Northern Ireland) postcode. . . It would be nice to be either Irish or British, it's being in limbo that bothers me.
    So many websites don't recognise Northern Ireland postcodes. A recent attempt to get photos printed through Apple website resulted in me giving up in frustration after being repeatedly asked for a 'valid' postcode.

  3. At 01:15 PM on 13 Dec 2007, David Sheldon wrote:

    We're very sorry about the lack of maps of Northern Ireland. Unfortunately we don't have sufficient high-resolution maps of the area that are out of copyright. If anyone has out of copyright (before 1957) OS maps of 1" to the mile of Northern Ireland, preferably projected with the grid lines on, then please get in touch with us through the site.

  4. At 01:28 PM on 13 Dec 2007, janecoffey wrote:

    If you go to www.ccan.co.uk, you can see allsorts of fascinating photos and documents relating to the villages in Cambridgeshire that have taken part in the Cambridge Community Archive Network Project. Not exactly postcode or map related but of interest to many who know the area I`m sure. Here in Fordham, we have been having a great time looking at the photographs and documents that have been submitted, and the reminiscences and stories from the older contribuotrs are worth their weight in gold, and can be found on the website.

  5. At 01:53 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Peter Simmons wrote:

    I don't see the point of this. The maps are old and dark and there are no pictures of what places looked like, as I had been led to believe. Google Earth is much better!

  6. At 02:21 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Gaye Monhollen-French wrote:

    Oops - this site is dangerous! When I clicked on my postcode on the map, I thought it called up my correct location, but actually, it was just the general area and accepted my click as being the right location for that specific postcode, which was incorrect. So find your correct location first, then add your postcode - not useful for me as my area has changed quite a bit, I agree GoogleEarth is much better.

  7. At 02:23 PM on 13 Dec 2007, andycroak wrote:

    They had Google Earth in the 1940s?

  8. At 03:54 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Cecilia Bell wrote:

    A pity they changed my area. It was much nicer in the 1940s without all these houses, and especially without the airport. (Southend). An 800 year old church is not far from here, on the edge of the airport runway. A comment heard earlier this year: "Why did they put the church so close to the runway?" ...

  9. At 04:05 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Norman Fitch wrote:

    For anyone interested in old Ordnance Survey maps there is a vast collection available at very reasonable prices from the excellent website;-
    www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk
    I have a series of them covering the area of London where I used to live and it's fascinating to see how much development there was in the late Victorian times through to the early 1900s. Such things as horse troughs are identified as well as all the old tramline routes.

  10. At 04:40 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Ruth Atkin wrote:

    I have lived at WD18 for more than 30 years. It used to be WD1, but as the town grew so did the postcode. I live in a Victorian workman's cottage, and the area hasn't changed much since then, apart from the double glazed windows etc. Even the school is the same! The church was deconsecrated in the 50s, and is now part of the school, for special occasions.

    Estate agents, until now, have sold houses here very fast---they say it has a "village atmosphere", and it still does. More than can be said of the rest of the older part of this town!

  11. At 06:03 PM on 13 Dec 2007, John wrote:

    THe Ordnance survey maps page is worth visiting:

    http://www.old-maps.co.uk

  12. At 06:08 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Kim wrote:

    Congratulation, looks like you have overloaded their server with the volume of traffic.

  13. At 06:09 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Chooksaway wrote:

    1940's? I know this is a little OCD but the apostrophe is not required. 1940s - that's better!

  14. At 06:50 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Richard Polkinghorne wrote:

    Come on people, wake up. This has nothing to do with your house in 1940
    By clicking the map you are contributing to an attempt to create a database of postcodes and overcome the copyright of the originator of this system (i.e. the POST OFFICE)
    Why is the B.B.C. encouraging something that undermines the competative advantage of YOUR post office?
    Read freethepostcode.org/
    This deserves an enquiry by the BBC Trust. If this post is moderated and blocked, it sort of prooves my point

  15. At 06:56 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Roma Arnott wrote:

    Hi My post code is NP25 5QJ Couldn't find where else to post it - sorry!

  16. At 07:56 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Bryn Holloway wrote:

    This site does not appear to work.
    I entered my post code, BH5 (in north Bournemouth) and got part of an old map of Highworth (near Swindon).
    Then I entered "Bournemouth" and got a present day satelite view of Bournemouth.
    What I actually wanted was what the site advertised - a 1940s map of MY local area, not a different location entirely, and not a current aerial view (for which Google Earth is much better anyway).
    Bryn

  17. At 08:55 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Sarah Stevens wrote:

    What a great site, i have just had my children looking at places they know and realising that there were no houses there then. They have seen places that still exist that they do know and we had fun trying to work out where our house is on what was then a farm.

  18. At 10:54 PM on 13 Dec 2007, Sid Cumberland wrote:

    For people who like this sort of thing,

    http://www.geograph.org.uk/

    is similar but with photos and without postcodes.

    Sid

  19. At 01:00 AM on 14 Dec 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    The site returned a map of my post town, but my postcode describes an address seven miles off this map.

    SO MUCH FOR HIGH TECHNOLOGY!

    Salaam/Shalom/Shanthi/Dorood/Peace
    Namaste -ed

    The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely 1 bananosecond.

  20. At 06:53 AM on 14 Dec 2007, Edward Wheatley wrote:

    Who gives a toss about post-codes ?

    Let's get on with the serious stuff

    Burying bad news -
    Odd that the new much greater figures for illegals working in the security business came out right at the end of this parliamentary session.

  21. At 07:35 AM on 14 Dec 2007, Tim Phipps wrote:

    To: Richard Polkinghorne

    I think you've got it the wrong way around. This is an attempt to get the postcode data back in the public domain after it was privatised along with the Post Office. (http://track.royalmail.com/portal/rm/jump2?catId=400120&mediaId=400084)

    Other examples of data generated by taxpayers money and now no longer freely available to them:
    OS maps (http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/business/copyright/index.html)
    Tide times (http://copyright.ukho.gov.uk/)

  22. At 02:56 PM on 14 Dec 2007, mittfh wrote:

    I used to be a fan of old-maps.co.uk - until about a year ago, you could browse and pan around the country, and download / print free preview maps - IIRC about 2666x1666 in size.

    Perhaps too many people were doing this rather than buying the higher-res copies...I for one had tremendous fun downloading several and stitching them together, to get the 'big picture' of what my area looked like ~120 years ago.

    -oOo-

    NPE Maps has some (but not all) postcodes - if you type in one it hasn't yet got on its database, it will take you to the nearest one. However, you can then scroll around until you find your postcode, and add it to their database. The little blue/green triangles overlaid onto the map represent postcodes in the database - so if you find an area that's still recognisable today, and know the relevant postcodes, you can make their database more accurate by adding them :)

    Meanwhile, I've found some useful freeware tools to help me compile larger 1940s maps of my area from the NPE Maps database (for personal on-screen use only, of course!): one of which automatically saves printscreens, another can crop multiple pictures simultaneously, and another can perform photo stitching.

  23. At 03:10 PM on 14 Dec 2007, mittfh wrote:

    I used to be a fan of old-maps.co.uk - until about a year ago, you could browse and pan around the country, and download / print free preview maps - IIRC about 2666x1666 in size.

    Perhaps too many people were doing this rather than buying the higher-res copies...I for one had tremendous fun downloading several and stitching them together, to get the 'big picture' of what my area looked like ~120 years ago.

    -oOo-

    NPE Maps has some (but not all) postcodes - if you type in one it hasn't yet got on its database, it will take you to the nearest one. However, you can then scroll around until you find your postcode, and add it to their database. The little blue/green triangles overlaid onto the map represent postcodes in the database - so if you find an area that's still recognisable today, and know the relevant postcodes, you can make their database more accurate by adding them :)

    Meanwhile, I've found some useful freeware tools to help me compile larger 1940s maps of my area from the NPE Maps database (for personal on-screen use only, of course!): one of which automatically saves printscreens, another can crop multiple pictures simultaneously, and another can perform photo stitching.

  24. At 03:08 PM on 15 Dec 2007, Ed Iglehart wrote:

    Mittfh,

    I've also got a file full of relatively high-res maps of my home area (1:2500 I think) from 1854...My house is there, but without the extension which shows on the later (1894) six-inch map. No sign of my treehouse on either one, of course, but it shows up in the more recent aerial photos.

    Real fun stuff for those who like that sort of thing. I've also got some from 1797...

    Salaam/Shalom/Shanthi/Dorood/Peace
    Namaste -ed

    What you want, what you're hanging around in the world waiting for, is for something to occur to you.
    -- Robert Frost

    [Quoted in "VMS Internals and Data Structures", V4.4, when
    referring to AST's.]

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