BBC Food: Your Favourites

Tuesday 11 June 2013, 15:01

Andrew Pipes Andrew Pipes Executive Product Manager

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Hi I’m Andy Pipes, executive product manager for Knowledge & Learning (K&L) which looks after the BBC Food website.

Today we are announcing some changes to how you can bookmark recipes on BBC Food. This blog post outlines the changes and the reasons behind them.

new_102.jpg Your Favourites on BBC Food


Goodbye Binder, Hello Favourites

In the past the BBC’s websites have had different ways for the audience to share, collect and annotate BBC content. To ensure audiences have a consistent experience we’ve begun to standardise the way that we describe these actions.

You might have noticed, for instance, that the button to allow users to share pages on Facebook, Twitter and Google is now consistent on News, Sport, BBC iPlayer, Food and most other BBC websites. You can read about this in my colleague Mark Channon’s blog post.

Radio iPlayer already allow users to save their favourite programmes using the Add to Favourites button when a list of episodes or series is displayed. As of today, BBC Food will share this function.

The current Recipe Binder will become Your Favourites. Saving a recipe to Your Favourites is as simple as clicking the green Add to Favourites button that appears next to the recipe title.

Removing an item from your favourites is just as easy. Follow the link to Your Favourites to see a list of your saved recipes. Click on the grey vertical bar to remove a favourite from your list when on the Your Favourites area.

For anyone with recipes saved on their current Binder, we will move your saved recipes over to your Favourites list. Those recipes will be stored against your BBC iD, which means that you can still take your Favourites with you on any device or screen you happen to be logged in to.

favourite_button_1024.jpg The Add to Favourites button


What happened to filters, notes and search?

The old Binder service included a filter and search function which allowed users with many saved recipes to easily pull out the one they wanted to access. Unfortunately this feature is not yet part of the new Favourites area.

This was a difficult decision based on the fact that just 0.07% of visitors to the Food website used this search facility in the Binder. The seldom-used feature, Notes, is also being closed as we move on to the new platform. The small number of people who used this service have been advised to copy their Notes before the upgrade to BBC Favourites to avoid disappointment.

If you have questions or comments about the updates, please ask them in the section below and we will do our best to answer any queries.

Andrew Pipes is the executive product manager for BBC Knowledge & Learning.

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    Comment number 1.

    I have just tried to add a recipe to my new 'favourites' and it does not work!
    The recipe binder worked - if it ain't broke - don't fix it.

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    Comment number 2.

    Excellent you guys managed to make the interface more clunky and annoying.

    Thanks from

    0.07%

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    Comment number 3.

    @smallbumblebee Can you please confirm if it is not working for you? There was a short time when some people's saved recipes were being migrated over where functionality could have been lost.

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    Comment number 4.

    I guess this makes sense but it has taken me a while to find the link to "my favourites" hidden discreetly in the top right corner. I suggest it needs more prominence.
    Peter Aspinall

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    Comment number 5.

    No problems for me with the mechanics but I agree with the previous post about the link to the folder being easier to find.

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    Comment number 6.

    Shame about the Notes facility disappearing.... was really useful for personal notes regarding the recipes - would be great if you can get that back (and even make your notes available for others to see, by choice of course).... more people would use Notes as more people realise what a great food recipe site this is, and start to use it for day to day meal choices....

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    Comment number 7.

    where is my binder?

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    Comment number 8.

    @aspinall @LucyDunt thanks for your comments. The Your Favourites link is in the same location as the Binder one used to be in the navigation; however the lack of an icon for the folder may mean it doesn't stand out as much. We will look at the prominence of the link. We are also going to put a link to Favourites from the centre column on recipes, in the blue box. This should be amended shortly.

    @SiD Thanks for the comments about the site. Unfortunately maintaining two separate systems - one for Note taking and another for saving Favourites - was problematic. We take on board that it is useful functionality lost, however, and hope it won't limit your day to day use of the website.

    @Mike Your Binder is now Your Favourites, linked to in the right side of the navigation bar. All of your saved Binder recipes should be accessible on Your Favourites.

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    Comment number 9.

    If I cannot locate a recipe in my binder what's the point of making a change that negates the whole purpose of the recipe binder. The new system only works if you only wish to save a just a few 'favourite' recipes. This is total rubbish!

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    Comment number 10.

    0.07% seems very low.

    How are people searching their binders for recipe's then I wonder?

    I'm so glad I spent a lot of time annotating the chef's personal directions from the programs into my BBC Binder notes for use when it comes to cooking the recipe's only to have them removed. Most upsetting, and I did not receive a notification email. :(

    Now my "favourites" has become all but an unsearchable list. Who has time to trawl through the full thing, just to find one recipe?

    I found that quiet a few recipe's were not dictated accurately, as the information provided by the chef in the TV program differed in relation to temperatures, cooking times etc... given in the website. Thus I began using the notes section and annotating in this as the program was being shown.

    I just hope that a new recipe filing system can be put in place, with a search facility. Obviously the 99.03% of people like storing their recipes by date?

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    Comment number 11.

    Kia Ora

    The link to the folder is no problem and hopefully the new delete button will be an asset, although it did not work on a number of expired recipes. When I click on a recipe it appears with the old notes box up front of the recipe! It also appears that I seem to have lost pics of some recipes. Change is always difficult to implement and I certainly will look forward to you solving the issue regarding speedily accessing an individual recipe with a "find in favourites button." I perceive this issue to be fundamental to the good management of my folder.

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    Comment number 12.

    Well thanks very much! Were is favourites on my iPad? Perhaps I have a lot to learn but seem to have lost all of the recipes I had saved will have to look harder for this missing link, I agree with No 1 it wasn't broke. Bye bye

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    Comment number 13.

    I too am unable to add today's recipe to my favourites and yes, some of my recipes have expired whilst others no longer have an illustration. Luckily when I save recipes I also print them out - it comes from learning to back everything up onto a separate floppy disk 20 odd years ago as it was not uncommon for stuff to disappear into the ether back in the old days of wild west dot commands. Oh how I miss running Wordstar on my Tatung Einstein with its double 125k floppy drives. If you intend to make changes you really should notify your clientele in order to give them the opportunity to retrieve stuff that they may wish to safeguard.

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    Comment number 14.

    Well the techs have done it again. Fixed what did not need fixing, and made it harder to use. I guess the BBC dont want us to use the web site.

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    Comment number 15.

    Yesterday I called the help line and they could not help me get into your favourites.

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    Comment number 16.

    So, unable to add the broad bean and courgette pilaf recipe to my favourites, I decided to leave it until this morning in the hope that a rest would have cured the gremlin. I hoped in vain. Something else which bugs me, no pun intended, is that when I write the word 'favourites' it has a wiggly red line underneath indicating that it is misspelled when it isn't. Favorite works ok though so someone has presumably programmed US style spelling into the system. I have yet to come to terms with the clunkiness of the main site resetting to the various home pages when all you really want to do is go back to a previously visited page, not start all over again. My old programming lecturer would writing to the Director General........ now there's a thought.

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    Comment number 17.

    Hi Andy, what a disappointing approach to what had previously been a seamless way to store BBC recipes, especially when it happened as I was halfway through planning last nights dinner! I hope this is not the final version of "Your Favourites" as the layout is not very user friendly, e.g how do I search for a stored recipe? also the previous layout showed the recipes in the order they had been added what is the chronology now?

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    Comment number 18.

    Hi Andy,

    I'm not normally the type of person to jump into the comments and say bad things, but I feel I have to join in and voice my opinion.

    I myself only had a few notes, but I'd feel really let down if I'd spent ages tailoring these recipes to my taste, then you guys to wipe the notes without any notification. That really is a very bad way to handle peoples data. If this was a commercial product, subscribers would be off, money would be lost and people would lose their jobs. Not good at all.

    Additionally, as someone else touched on, removing the search feature seems nuts. Why? I'm sorry, but I just don't believe 0.07% only used this function. If that figure is correct, then maybe you shouldn't rely so heavily on such data. User testing, perhaps?

    Finally, I also cannot add a recipe to my favourites.

    What a shame...

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    Comment number 19.

    @Oliveojive Sorry you're still having problems. Can you please try to log out of BBC iD and log back in, refresh the page and see if the Favourites feature works for you? Re the 'misspelling' of Favourites - that is your web browser's configuration, not the website. You should be able to change to British spelling in the browser's preferences.

    @janicemlb and others: we understand your frustration with regards to Search. For those with more than a handful of recipes, browsing through the pages of recipes isn't as efficient as Binder search. We will let you know when we can expect similar functionality with the Favourites system.

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    Comment number 20.

    Sorry to add more negativity but if you tell users that changes are about to be made (and you, the BBC, do have our email adresses) we can then take steps, (i.e print out or copy) to keep our edited recipes. Also I do feel it's somewhat isingenuus to state that the search function is only used by 0.07% - Reall? Also it seems that the vast majority of "my" expired recipes are Nigel Slater ones. Surely he is a favourite BBC chef whose recipes are used and used again. Please do a rethink on this.

 

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