Full BBC 3DTV Schedule For Olympics

Tuesday 24 July 2012, 18:17

Kim Shillinglaw Kim Shillinglaw Head of 3D

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Hi. I'm Kim Shillinglaw and I'm the head of 3D for the BBC.

Summer seems to have finally arrived, and with that continues the BBC's 'Summer of 3D'. We've had Wimbledon - and what a final to have captured in three dimensions - and I'm now looking forward to the rather impressive Planet Dinosaur 3D in August, and the 3D simulcast of the Last Night of the Proms on 8th September.

Before all that though, we will of course be broadcasting Olympic highlights in 3D. For those of you who (like me!) didn't get tickets, you may want to sample some of the BBC's coverage. These free-to-air broadcasts in 3D will be available to anyone who has access to a 3D TV set and to HD Channels, regardless of which digital TV provider they use. For more information of how to access the BBC's 3D content go to www.bbc.co.uk/3d.

As previously announced, the BBC will be broadcasting The Opening Ceremony, Closing Ceremony, Men's 100m final and a highlights package at the end of each day in 3D.

Today I can confirm the full 3D schedule for the Olympics:

27th July 2012

Olympic Opening Ceremony

20:50 - 00:00 (approximately)

5th August 2012

Men's 100 metre final

20:30 - 22:00

12th August 2012

Olympic Games review

20.00 - 21.00

12th August 2012

Olympic Closing Ceremony

21:00 - 00:30 (approximately)
(followed by highlights of the day)

Daily Olympic Highlights will be broadcast every day of the Games from 23:00 - 24:00.

And watch out for the completely stunning 60 second films of athletes in action at the start of each evening's coverage. Shot in 3D with the help of a phantom camera, to the sound of Elbow's music, they are really breathtaking.

This 'Summer of 3D' is part of a two year trial we are running - testing production, distribution, partnerships and appetite in different genres of 3D. Our strategy is to co-produce 2D and 3D together, as we did with the Strictly Come Dancing Final last December. This will continue with Planet Dinosaur in August, allowing the two year trial to be run in a very cost effective way, whilst still getting valuable insights into this embryonic area.

Above all, it's a trial - so I'd welcome your comments on any of the summer's 3D output.

Kim Shillinglaw is Commissioning Editor, Science & Natural History & Head of 3D, BBC Vision

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    Comment number 41.

    The 11pm - midnight BBC HD 3D highlights programme is repeated the following morning on BBC HD at 7am - 8am and again at 8am - 9am

    If you can record the HD 3D broadcast, it's worth direct recording from about 7.52am 'till 8am each morning. You can then eventually capture and archive all of the "60 sec videos shot in 3D with the help of a phantom camera, to the sound of Elbow's music"

    They really are breathtaking and well worth archiving for future 3D demos on your 3D tv

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    Comment number 42.

    Dear D Clayden. Thanks for the post The highlights programme is not ready much before 23:00 and goes out as soon as we can. There will be an evening of live 3D for the Men's 100m final but the highlights programme provided by OBS gives a good round up of the day's 3D events.

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    Comment number 43.

    Hi I read with interest the comments regarding recording the 3D, I have tired using my Panasonic DVD / Hardrive Recorder and all I get is two images split to each half of the screen and my Panasonic 3D TV (Latest/ current model) will not detect the 3D signal and therefore all I can do is select 2D to 3D simulation which is not as good as the BBC's off air transmissions which it detects fine. Does anyone know how to record in 3D?
    Thanks
    VieraDave

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    Comment number 44.

    Dear VieraDave. I assume your recorder is connected via HDMI - you need to manually set the tv to SbyS mode in either the quick menu or the setup menu

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    Comment number 45.

    Please please please can you repeat the Opeming Ceremony in 3D with the commentary?

    The commentary ruined it and wasn't need and I also missed the end as it over-ran!

    Everywhere I read about the Olympics Opening Ceremony the one thing that sticks out is the complaint about talking all over it and telling us things that we could see with out own eyes. Why do the BBC keep insisting that we have to have this or even need it? You wouldn't show a live transmission from a London theatre and have someone talk all over it would you? We want to watch the show and hear it! Why does that seem such a ridiculous concept to the BBC?

    I can't believe that there was only a one-off opportunity to see this and had to have commentary and no chance to see the end, if as happened, my recorder stopped recording at the published time.

    So please let's have a full repeat: Any time of day or night will do and don't forget to actually advertise it.

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    Comment number 46.

    The 3D broadcast of the opening ceremony was fantastic but I agree, the commmentary was often talking about items we could not see and often missed what we could see. My 3D TV here in France worked faultlessly and it was truly fantastic. When the paper pices were floating about it really felt as though some were coming from behind me. Can we have more broadcasts in 3D please as now the TV's are very popular. When I tuned in it came as the side by side pictures but very quickly changed to the "fuzzy" picture for my system.
    Well done BBC

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    Comment number 47.

    The PQ on the 3D Highlights programme each night is a bit disappointing. A bit soft at times. I know 3D broadcast like this isn't full HD, but at times this looks distinctly SD in quality.
    But I know it isn't the BBC's fault as the Sky/Eurosport 3D highlights programme transmission has exactly the same issue. And they are in fact of course exactly the same programme provided by OBS to both BBC and Eurosport. So the fault seems to be at source. Please tell OBS to buck up their ideas!

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    Comment number 48.

    Dear citizenloz. Thanks for the post. We are speaking to OBS about the coverage. As a point of interest, the slo-mo stings and the piece to camera at the top of the highlights show are made by us. Do you have any thoughts on these?

    Andy

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    Comment number 49.

    Hi Andy. The BBC parts are excellent. Well made and good PQ, which just highlights the poor quality of the OBS source material. I can't say it is always so, but generally the indoor material seems poorer quality than the outdoor stuff. The swimming and gymnastics for example look soft compared to say the canoe slathom which had looked great in 3D. Perhaps they struggle more with the light levels

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    Comment number 50.

    Hi Andy
    The slo-mo stings are so good that I've managed to capture all eight of them.

    They tend to appear at the end of the BBC HD 3D highlights transmissions though - 11.54pm - 7.52am and 8.52am?

    Also, the "piece to camera shots" PQ is far superior to the following OBS material!

    Why didn't the BBC put in a bid to do the whole "3D thing" and sell it to the rest of the world?
    Judging from the Olympics 2012 3D broadcasts so far, they could obviously do it so much better, and all of us tv license payers could have enjoyed a much more fulfillng 3D Olympic Games experience to accompany the brilliant BBC HD 3D Opening Ceremony.

    I assume that the BBC will be in total control of the 3D Closing Ceremony, but who will be producing/presenting the live? 3D Men's 100m Final?

    And will OBS be involved in the Last Night of the Proms live 3D broadcast?

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    Comment number 51.

    Thanks Andy Quested, for the hint regarding playing back recorded 3D. Now that I have set the 3D mode to "SBS to 3D" I can view 3D recorded images via HDMI. However, the results are a bit disappointing as the definition is no where near as good as the off-air images, or the 2D standard images recorded on my Panasonic DVD/ Hard disk recorder. I can only assume the 3D requires a higher bandwidth and the non-HD recorder can not cope with the level of information being handled - perhaps I need to save up for an HD DVD/ Hard disk Recorder!

    With regard to the comments from citzenloz, I too have noticed some of the images are a bit low definition in places. This seems to be in the main on the top right side of the screen and was especially noticable on some of the swimming images. Looking at the images more closely, I don't know how the 3D camers work, but assuming they have two lenses/ imaging chips, it looks as though the low definition might be due to convergence problems between the two images, rather than softness of image.

    However, given the purpose of the 3D trial is to identify such anomalies I am sure these will be ironed out in due course and in general to me the 3D images and indeed the HD 2D look amazing - keep up the good work BBC!

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    Comment number 52.

    Many thanks for the comments - OBS are producing all of the material 2D and 3D. We have added a little of our own to give the 3D packages a UK/BBC feel. The 100m and closing will be live as was the opening.

    Dinosaurs and The Last Night of the Proms are BBC produced. BTW Dinosaurs will be on iPlayer in 3D.

    VieraDave - if your recorder re-compresses the 3D it will look much worse. The 3D will vanish first and as it was SbyS the resolution is already lower than 2D HD

    Andy

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    Comment number 53.

    @VieraDave what recorder have you got? I'm slightly surprised that it's even possible to have received the 3D (broadcast on an HD channel) on a device that can't record HD.

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    Comment number 54.

    Dear VieraDave. I have a sky pvr so it records the transport stream not the video. Can you let me have the model number of the recorder?

    Andy

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    Comment number 55.

    Last nights highlights blew my theory @49 of indoor vs outdoor out of the window. The indoor shots seemed a little sharper last night whilst the equestrian footage was poor. The opening shots of the show jumping arena was worse than SD.
    The fencing was very poor 3D wise. It was hard to see any 3D depth at all. Perhaps the almost black and white contrast between the fencers and the background accounted for this. It was only when an official walked past you got any indication that segment was in 3D at all.

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    Comment number 56.

    Dear citizenloz - nothing confirmed but there were some problems with yesterday's 3D feed. Fingers crossed for tonight. Andy

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    Comment number 57.

    Been watching the 11pm 1hour 3d slot,and i must say it's the worst 3d picture quality i,ve ever seen.The 3d intro looks great but as soon as it goes into the obs it looks dreadfull.
    All the colours are washed out and minimal 3d effect and no amount of tweaking the settings makes it look any better.

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    Comment number 58.

    Dear Andy Quested, The model No. of my Panasonic DVD/ HD Recorder is DMR-EX85EB. However, please note it is a few years old now and I would expect the latest Panasonic machines would do a better job of recording.

    My machine does not have a tuner which receives HD and therefore I have to record from the TV tuner, via Q-Link/ Viera Link/ HDAVI and as the recorder can not record via HDMI it uses Scart/ (Composite Video) - Hence my low resolution recordings! and I use the HDMI to view recordings. However, the TV User Manual, seems to indicate it's HD tuner can be recorded via HDAVI Control 5, over HDMI, so I suspect current Panasonic DVD/ HD recordes can do this. Unfortunately, one Panasonic dealer I have asked, does not seem to know, so I guess I shall have to do the research before buying another machine - unless any one on this forum happens to know!

    Please note the softness in the picture I mentioned above, is evident off-air, I am not judging picture quality on my low res recordings. I have noticed today the softness is on the distant pictures on the middle to upper left and closed up shots look fine. Whether this is TV specific, or in the transmission I am not sure.

    Kind regards

    VieraDave

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    Comment number 59.

    No improvement last night PQ wise I am afraid, as tommytinkroom @57 also notes.

    The previous nights problem they may have been referring to could have been the "Break in Transmission" that occured during the 3D broadcast that was included in the Eurosport broadcast, though I think was edited out of the later BBC broadcast.

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    Comment number 60.

    Dear VieraDave - thanks. dropping the resolution that far will destroy most is not all the 3D I'm afraid!

    Dear tommytinkroom, citizenloz and VieraDave. Last night's highlights did seem to have a lot of single camera locations (not multi camera OB trucks) - the images were a bit noisy and lacked depth. citizenloz - Not sure about the break on EuroSport do you remember when it was? I will ask if we did edit any breaks out.

    Andy

 

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