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How important is Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?

11:07 UK time, Tuesday, 18 January 2011

Chinese President Hu Jintao called for co-operation on economic and security issues on the third day of his visit to the US. What has his visit achieved?

Mr Hu said China has no interest in pursuing an arms race or exerting military dominance over other nations. He also acknowledged that "a lot still needs to be done" in China over human rights.

Analysts say Mr Hu's visit is the most important by a Chinese leader in 30 years given China's growing military, economic and diplomatic clout.

What is your reaction to President Hu Jintao's comments on human rights? What has been achieved by Mr Hu's state visit to the US? How will the two countries manage their changing relationship?

Thank you for your comments. This deabte is now closed.

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  • Comment number 1.

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  • Comment number 2.

    Another 'out there' topic.

    The only affect it has on us is that the Chinese know they are a rising power and are stating it loudly to the US and due to our reliance on the US as a special friend, we will be downgraded in our ability to negotiate.

    China US relations are strained already and will beocme more so as more and more Europeans leaders run to Asia for sales and not the US, (Asia I include India)

  • Comment number 3.

    China is the false superpower that is to dependent on exporting goods to the US and Europe.

    They should understand that if we go down,they are following straight after and probabley be effected worse.

    China cant play fair,the moment they do that the likes of Vietnam,India and other countries will be more favourable to companies seeking low costs,high profits.

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  • Comment number 8.

    I expect the usual comments asking why do we need to comment on anything outside the UK. It no longer takes months to travel around the world. We can communicate at the touch of a button. If one nation gets the flu then others are likely to catch it, metaphorically speaking. We are all affected by world leaders, world events and world politics. Unless you live in a bubble.

  • Comment number 9.

    Hu's Jintao?

  • Comment number 10.

    China needs the U.S. more than vice-versa; why do you think China is a major buyer of U.S. bonds?

  • Comment number 11.

    Well, it's always very nice for a leader of a world power to come and check out the latest client state. We did it when we had an Empire, and now the Chinese are doing the same. We better just get used to it! The countries that are funding our debt, will be calling the tune I fear!

  • Comment number 12.

    10. At 2:52pm on 18 Jan 2011, Neil Probert wrote:
    why do you think China is a major buyer of U.S. bonds?

    ---

    Is it because Gary's music appeals to them?

  • Comment number 13.

    I have never understood how a country with such a terrible human rights record, a complete lack of democracy and huge amounts of poverty among it's people can be described as one of the worlds biggest powers, but then I suppose that was the way ancient Babylon and Rome made it to the top.

  • Comment number 14.

    It will be important till he steps on his plane again to fly home. No more-no less!

  • Comment number 15.

    DUH!!! If it wasn't important, he wouldn't be here.

  • Comment number 16.

    America is bankrupt. Their defence spending, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan plus military bases around the world is relied on borrowed money a lot of if comes from China. USA is a temple built over a sewer, it will only be a matter of time when America need to pay back what its owe and that is when USA collapse like a pack of card.

  • Comment number 17.

    Does anyone knows why the West and Japan so fearful about China's rise and military might?
    I mean the Chinese even when they were the richest and most powerful for much of the last 2,000 years did not engage in conquering, slaving or ethnic cleansing of another nation but a lot of those behaviour have actually been committed by western powers even to this day.
    Perhaps the West and Japan remembers what they did to China in the past 150 years and are worried about reprisals.

  • Comment number 18.

    China is the rising superstar and power in the world. China knows that their exports to other nations is vital for their economies. China's rise as a military super power scares not only those in the far east, but the United States and many in Europe as well. China's maim problem is that it doesn't truly have any allies or real friends around the globe. China is trying to use its new economic might to buy what the want and use their economy to colonize parts of Africa, and other cash strapped nations. China isn't going to let its currency float on the world stage, because she doesn't want to slow her economy down. One must remember that China is far from being democratic and is still a closed society in many ways, and with their continued effort to modernize their military they will become not only a true military threat along with the economic threat they have already emposed around the globe.

  • Comment number 19.

    MizzJShaw wrote:
    I have never understood how a country with such a terrible human rights record, a complete lack of democracy and huge amounts of poverty among it's people can be described as one of the worlds biggest powers, but then I suppose that was the way ancient Babylon and Rome made it to the top.


    Are you talking about America or China ?

  • Comment number 20.

    I want China to stop buying our Treasury Bills.
    I want them to stop lending us money, I dont care about the consequences.
    China must float their currencty the Yaun or the Renminbi on world markets like every other currency floats in value.
    Free Trade must be Fair Trade..

  • Comment number 21.

    It's importance is in the naked moral hypocrisy of the US when it preaches human rights banter to other countries except China. Even Venezuela has come under the American gun because Hugo Chavez dares to contest US political and economic hegemony over the western hemisphere. But it's really about the $One Trillion dollars of American debt that China holds in its hands. China has become the defacto banker of the US and that takes precedent over all other issues. Moreover Obama is likely to achieve nothing in his meeting with Hu Jintao the Chinese are very adept at vagueness, promise nothing, and look out for their own interests. Hu Jintao will be toasted at a White House dinner and American companies will still be falling over themselves to do business in the China market. Don't expect Obama to antagonise his guest with some nervy comments about press freedoms and such in China. Obama does not even do that with Putin. It is actually Hu Jintao who is buying dinner for Obama with American money care of the American consumer who can't get enough of cheaply made Chinese goods like flat panel HD digital televisions among thousands of others.

  • Comment number 22.

    So much misinformation here. Somehow the west's freedom of the press has not reliably informed their citizens of China or indeed, the rest of the world. Apparently China needs the US more than vice versa... so tell me why have the US government agreed on a deal a few weeks ago to borrow a further $1 TRILLION dollars off the Chinese?

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  • Comment number 24.

    17. At 4:00pm on 18 Jan 2011, hizento wrote:
    "Perhaps the West and Japan remembers what they did to China in the past 150 years and are worried about reprisals."

    China attacking any of afore mentioned would be like a shopkeeper or bank manager beating up his customers.

    Bad for business.

  • Comment number 25.

    Leaders in both countries realize that globalism is losing popular support in the West. If the US keeps losing jobs, there will be a fundamental change in global commerce. The only reason for a military superpower to have our economic troubles is weak leadership.

    Whether they admit it or not, voters are tired of insane military costs that bear no fruit.

    US leaders have three choices:

    1. Economic isolationism
    2. military isolationism
    3. leverage military power into economic power

  • Comment number 26.

    //16. At 3:47pm on 18 Jan 2011, hizento wrote:
    America is bankrupt. Their defence spending, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan plus military bases around the world is relied on borrowed money a lot of if comes from China. USA is a temple built over a sewer, it will only be a matter of time when America need to pay back what its owe and that is when USA collapse like a pack of card.//

    The US has been being criticised and written off in the same terms you use for decades.

    That expression you use, a temple built over a sewer, is interesting. Fact is, people criticise the US, but they still bust a gut to get there. You don't see Americans trying to get into the likes of China, India, Iran, Latin America or Africa as illegal immigrants or asylum seekers, do you.

    Yet people from all those places seek asylum or try other dodges to get into the US. Basically, the US for all its many imperfections offers rights and freedoms which people in countries and cultures which critice it can only dream of.

    The US will not remain the world's sole superpower forever. Maybe China will replace it, maybe some other country or region will. But it will be a long time before the roles of China and America are reversed, and China is unlikely to be as good a place for its inhabitants as the US is in our lifetimes.

  • Comment number 27.

    To all you kind folks out there, who seem to relish
    and enjoy and even desire the downfall of the USA,
    best of luck to you when another superpower takes over
    as leader and "world cop".

    It's sad but in this day, we NEED a world cop.
    Who else could do the job?
    Who else would bother or pay for it?

    Without USA as a major leader:
    Goodbye Poland. Goodbye Taiwan. Goodbye Israel.
    Goodbye Tibet. Goodbye Haiti. Goodbye Somalia.
    Goodbye former Russian regions, now nations.
    Goodbye Yugo-Serbia-Bosnia region.
    Goodbye Kuwait. Goodbye Saudi Arabia.
    Goodbye Canada (their economy is directly tied to the US).

    Then, it's Goodbye to all the next level nations:
    Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France.

    And THEN, dear friends and ancestors in Great Britain,
    IT'S YOUR TURN.

    Oh but I'm sure the CHINESE or the RUSSIANS
    or maybe even the INDIANS would take good care of all
    of this if the US couldn't do it any longer.
    Right?

  • Comment number 28.

    Dunno, depends how bad he feel the need for a nice break somewhere abroad.

  • Comment number 29.

    I think the state visit is extremely important, but I doubt that much of significance will come out of it.
    Why not?
    Because these two nations have little to no trust in one another; there is no history of friendship. In short, nothing to build upon.
    What decisions or changees can occur?
    1. the value of the yuan - China will see this as an internal financial matter and will listen politely but not change its fiscal policies. I agree with China. Besides, China is backing away from buying any more American Treasury bonds; it wants to diversify. The fact that it chooses to buy EU soverign debt over American bonds ought to tell the world what China thinks about American overall solvency.
    2. the huge trade gap - This stems from the value of the yuan vs. the American dollar, and also from the fact that the United States pushed so many production/factory jobs to China when the United States would have been better off retaining them. China must be well-aware of the international talk that is occurring about replacing the American dollar as the world's reserve currency.
    3. human rights - If I was the United States, I wouldn't try this topic with a ten foot, golden pole. The united States cannot afford to call the pot black. Even the United Nations has cited the US for human rights issues.
    4. US arms sales to Taiwan - China sees this as volatile because it sees Taiwan as part of China. So, the United States must know the prevocation that it is causing by selling arms to Taiwan. (I wonder what it meant that Taiwan picked this day to tests its American missiles?)
    China's growing military strength - China won't cut back so that the Americans can feel more equal.
    How will this state visit affect the US-China relationship?
    Not much, except that some American firms may take advantage of the occasion to sign business contracts with China, like GE has done and I think 4 companies out of Houston.

  • Comment number 30.

    With Sarah Palin barking her attrocious policys, the Chinese government know that if the USA does NOT improve jobs etc, then the liklihood is that in a few years time with Sarah Palin and right wing Tea Party Republicans possibly at the helm of USA there is more chance of a trade war and even confrontation via a much much greater confrontational nationalistic attitude.

    Sarah Palin is possible, (until/unless elected)USAs top trumps card, with the difference of Obama playing softball & Sarah Palin playing Rollerball.

  • Comment number 31.

    The US and China have many things of common interest. The meeting is important to work on those common goals and mitigate their disagreements.

  • Comment number 32.

    I think Hu Jintao and his colleagues are managing China's increasing economic and political influence very astutely. They are encouraging the gradual emergence of an educated and increasingly-wealthy middle-class, knowing that it will reach a critical mass, which will inevitably lead to greater democracy.
    They also know that it is crucially-important to maintain good relations with other major economies, particularly around the Pacific Basin, and the United States represents by far their biggest market.
    I wouldn't lose too much sleep about China as a military power. China isn't the slightest bit interested in Cold War politics: she is much too intent on global economic primacy, and the prosperity of China.

  • Comment number 33.

    A state visit, a war, it is STILL about the good ol' Green back and just how much more the rich can gain!
    Hu Jintao is just another number on a vast menue of 'How to get Richer'!

  • Comment number 34.

    What do you think about Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?

    I think that their (government) arrogance, as measured by discussion of replacing the US dollar as the international currency, is premature considering their newly arrived status as a ‘superpower’. For some perspective, the GNP of the US is 4.5 trillion dollars greater than Chinas, the US per capita income is five times that of China and college graduation rates are four times that of Chinas. Based upon some limited contact with Chinese citizen, I find that they are taken back by any criticism from overseas of their country. I told them that they had better get used to it as it comes with that superpower status.

    Can any substantial agreement on economics or foreign affairs be reached?

    No. The dialogue for such meetings has already been determined and this is just a photo-op. Besides, respect for Obama influence on important foreign affairs, especially with advisories, is serious in question.

    How will this state visit affect the US-China relationship?

    The affect will be very little as long as civility is exercised on both sides. Essentially it’s difficult to determine who needs who the most. The ‘debtor’ ‘creditor’ relationship here has been over simplified and over stated. The money flows both ways and there is always the vintage expression, ‘you don’t kill the goose that lays the golden egg’. I think China likes the idea that they may be funding our military, after all, from whom else would they reverse engineer anything their military? I think the competition is healthy for both countries.

    Hizento (16 & 17) Normally I’d let such rantings go unattended but yours was especially informative. Your insight is amazing coming from someone whos perspective of the American ‘temple’ if not the world is certainly from the bottom (sewer), up. With all the access to information now days, it’s hard to believe anyone is still buying the evil West explanation. It's old school leftoric and even the Chinese have moved on.

  • Comment number 35.

    How important is Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    As I've said before on this type of meaningless question, to whom and in relation to what?

    As far as I'm aware there are no Standard Importance Units with an absolute reference in which to measure in any case, so can't quantify.

    However, in relative terms I'd say it is more important to the US than a visit by our queen, but less so than one by Putin or Medvedev.


  • Comment number 36.

    Am I the only person to think that this is a marginal topic for most of us in the UK?
    How on earth are most of us in the UK supposed to know enough about either China or the US to be able to make a sensible informed comment?
    Why are we seemingly having more and more US-elated topics to discuss?
    (This is after all the website of the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation is it not?)
    I can think of no good reason why there should be so many US topics, but if there is can someone explain why, please and why they can't they be ones in which there is a British connection?
    Is it that the BBC has a very (some would say disproportionately) big and expensive presence in the US to justify, and every little helps?

  • Comment number 37.

    CHINESE PRESIDENT MEETING IN THE USA AND RUSSIA AND PARTS OF ASIAN COUNTRIES LIKE AFGHANISTAN PAKISTAN IS VERY IMPORTANT .

    CHINA IS BECOMING SUPER POWER.

    CONGRATULATE TO CHINESE FOR THEIR SUCCESS AND MAKING SUCH A DECISION THAT IMPROVED HIGH POPULATED COUNTRY.

  • Comment number 38.

    It's greatly important to the USA because China is slowly displacing the Americans from the first place in economic terms and in military issues. Since China displyed its powerful "invisible" fighter jet, the USA has been a bit nervous.

  • Comment number 39.

    8. At 12:48pm on 18 Jan 2011, smilingparrotfan wrote:
    I expect the usual comments asking why do we need to comment on anything outside the UK. It no longer takes months to travel around the world. We can communicate at the touch of a button. If one nation gets the flu then others are likely to catch it, metaphorically speaking. We are all affected by world leaders, world events and world politics. Unless you live in a bubble.
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    And you expect right - see my 36 (if the moderators let it through)
    Please don't be so complacently haughty about it. Of course there have to be overseas topics, and I'm glad to see that the Beeb does its bit to introduce developing world and European topics (eg French politics) now and again. And of course the US should be included from time to time
    But we seem to be getting US related subjects that if 'international' are primarily of interest to the USA itself, or even domestic US issues and the minutiae of their politics. If I wanted to stick my nose into US domestic affairs there are plenty of American websites to gatecrash.
    I like the US and have built up some close friendships there over the years, but this is the UK, and we should have wider visions.

  • Comment number 40.

    How important is Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?
    What a shame we didn't restrict foreign imports the same as the Chinese.
    If we had done it Years ago we may have had an Industry left.
    The Western Governments, apart from France, Germany and Italy, seem to be lying on their backs with their legs open and saying "take what you want"

  • Comment number 41.

    At 6:05pm on 18 Jan 2011, deanarabin wrote:
    "I can think of no good reason why there should be so many US topics, but if there is can someone explain why, please and why they can't they be ones in which there is a British connection?"

    Britain had colonial ties to both China and the US... This topic just happens to be about both of them and not it.

    "Is it that the BBC has a very (some would say disproportionately) big and expensive presence in the US to justify, and every little helps?"

    I watch BBC America almost everyday...You would be surprised at the infuence Brits have over here in general. Nevermind that Britain has exported tons of products, people, & culture to the US over the last few centuries...(early settlers, language, pop/punk music, horrible tv reality spinoffs...)

    To be honest, this topic was put here to see if anyone would go on about it. And we have.

  • Comment number 42.

    China holds so much US debt, that it is only a matter of time, until they take over the country.

    The current leadership in the US, will kowtow to whatever pleases China, and ignore the people of the US.

    The citizens need to ask themselves, what they intend to do.....accept becoming Chinese, or stop the madness.

  • Comment number 43.

    I´d much rather the two super-powers talk to each other than face each other in aggression.

  • Comment number 44.

    China is a different country and culture. It has an ancient history of invention and innovation - and it's a lot older than the US. It may have important lessons from history to apply.

    It also has a population of approximately 1 bn to take into account. I have respected the China policy of gradualism in reform they make. I also consider that with a country this size and its population I wonder how a 'western style democracy' would effect itself. I don't think a citizen on the electoral bandwagon supported by say, lobbyist or interest groups' money is that great a deal given a look at US politics, and 'democracy'. To me, China's 'state of trained experts' within the communist party such as it is that is able to see the big picture at all times because it organises itself to this extent is feasible. Human rights is a global issue. There are abuses everywhere and the US is hackneyed in its approach in respect of China. What does a dissident know of the overal big, global picture? Does a dissident want a 'western democracy' - is he/she funded or informed by this? Let's hear the Chinese dissident arguments - and in this China could surprise us and allow argument to hold sway.

    Here's the example: in a western democracy in the global media a 'candidate' such as Sarah Palin can be put forward for Vice President. In China she would have been assessed for her intelligence, et al and, found lacking. Let us not undermine China and 'dis' them US style when so much can be achieved if we all work together.

  • Comment number 45.

    At 6:31pm on 18 Jan 2011, toycollector wrote:
    How important is Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?
    What a shame we didn't restrict foreign imports the same as the Chinese.
    If we had done it Years ago we may have had an Industry left.
    The Western Governments, apart from France, Germany and Italy, seem to be lying on their backs with their legs open and saying "take what you want"

    -----
    Chinese imports? Call it cheap labour. If the Chinese manufactured it was under the orders and design of foreign companies who then had it shipped around the world - say, a famous toy company, etc etc with the words Made in China. Check out US brands in the store and see where they're made.

  • Comment number 46.

    I think China and the U.S. have been friends ever since Deng Xiao Ping and Nixon. Since then China has been shipping goods to the U.S. while the U.S. has been exporting its culture to China (Basketball, Hip Hop, American Music, the Internet - These things are huge in China).

    The latest visit of Hu Jintao to Barack Obama does not come as a face off of opponents, but as a meeting of friends to discuss how to tackle the most pressing issues of our times. A big point, what I guess, will be how to combat climate change and with that how to ramp up the world economy.

  • Comment number 47.

    Other than signing lucrative contracts with China, this visit gives nothing more than a PR show than anything concrete from Hu, including human rights and currency issues.

    My grandma once taught me the virtue : "Never reprimand the bread-winner of the family becoz you survive on his means".

    That's why China gets so tough and not even one political prisoner is released this time to yield face to Obama.

  • Comment number 48.

    27. At 5:08pm on 18 Jan 2011, Doug NYC Van wrote:

    To all you kind folks out there, who seem to relish
    and enjoy and even desire the downfall of the USA,
    best of luck to you when another superpower takes over
    as leader and "world cop".

    It's sad but in this day, we NEED a world cop.
    Who else could do the job?
    Who else would bother or pay for it?

    Without USA as a major leader:
    Goodbye Poland. Goodbye Taiwan. Goodbye Israel.
    Goodbye Tibet. Goodbye Haiti. Goodbye Somalia.
    Goodbye former Russian regions, now nations.
    Goodbye Yugo-Serbia-Bosnia region.
    Goodbye Kuwait. Goodbye Saudi Arabia.
    Goodbye Canada (their economy is directly tied to the US).

    Then, it's Goodbye to all the next level nations:
    Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France.

    And THEN, dear friends and ancestors in Great Britain,
    IT'S YOUR TURN.

    Oh but I'm sure the CHINESE or the RUSSIANS
    or maybe even the INDIANS would take good care of all
    of this if the US couldn't do it any longer.
    Right?

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    Canada, they are mineral rich..dont think for a second they depend on the U.S...there are many countries that could easily replace the U.S. and buy the "black gold" they flog.

    Poland, the Russians could bombard them tomorrow and have tanks chasing their political leaders all over the country, probably quicker than they did Georgia...and probably just get the same U.S. response as they did during the Georgia conflict ; verbal.

    Tibet, well, I dont see any U.S. help there, apart from inflaming the Chinese suspicions of the locals...which in turn is making their lives worse.

    Haiti??? you must be kidding? seriously? you cant genuinely think the U.S. "cares" or "protects" haiti?

    Somalia, governed by U.S./Western backed govt who, in fear of their lives, have to hide out in compounds, have pretty much no control over the ports or the people. They would probably back anyone but the U.S. backed current govt, even the six ft madman OBL, so that too like haiti is a pretty bad example.

    former russian countries..well, if the U.S. is helping them by giving Russia the excuse she needs to attack..thats sure a new definition of "help".

    Israel, well, they claim they are the middle easts only democracy, and that they are militarily superior to the other middle eastern countries..as do all of their supporters around the world, so if its true, the U.S. are of no gain to them.

    Taiwan, arming them and pretending America will come and "rescue" them from evil China...lets be realistic, if China wanted to destroy them now..what could America do? nothing.

    If North Korea can(allegedly) sink a south korean ship, fire shells and kill South Koreans including members of their armed forces and have nothing but a few "UN meetings" and a bit of verbal from hillary clinton as their response, all whilst having the same promised protection that Taiwan has, Im willing to wager China isnt worried about the U.S. reaction if they decimated Taiwan tomorrow.

    yugo/serb/bos...well, if thats a success...so is North Korea.

    Kuwait..no more safer with U.S. troops there than without. If America is stupid enough to attack Iran, which is probable, than Kuwait is a legit target for Iran ; U.S. troops stationed there being the targets.

    Saudi Arabia..a dictatorship posing as a monarchy..yeah, Im sure the locals would be upset if the U.S. dropped support. And the Houthis, our only support against AQ in Yemen..who the U.S. attacked on behalf of the Saudis after they blooded the Saudis noses..hmm..wise move.

    All that being said, the U.S. is positive in many aspects of the world/its events, but my god..wake up. The world wont end if the U.S. loses economic power to China.

    They say China was the economic power for 18 of 20 centuries..did they invade the world then? No, they sat back while others stupidly did..and failed.

    The Romans during their empire probably had the same level of confidence, and self-righteousness..and look how they ended up.

  • Comment number 49.

    13. At 3:37pm on 18 Jan 2011, MizzJShaw wrote:
    I have never understood how a country with such a terrible human rights record, a complete lack of democracy and huge amounts of poverty among it's people can be described as one of the worlds biggest powers, but then I suppose that was the way ancient Babylon and Rome made it to the top.

    The US has good bits too.

  • Comment number 50.

    27. At 5:08pm on 18 Jan 2011, Doug NYC Van wrote:
    To all you kind folks out there, who seem to relish
    and enjoy and even desire the downfall of the USA,
    best of luck to you when another superpower takes over
    as leader and "world cop".

    It's sad but in this day, we NEED a world cop.
    Who else could do the job?
    Who else would bother or pay for it?

    Without USA as a major leader:
    Goodbye Poland. Goodbye Taiwan. Goodbye Israel.
    Goodbye Tibet. Goodbye Haiti. Goodbye Somalia.
    Goodbye former Russian regions, now nations.
    Goodbye Yugo-Serbia-Bosnia region.
    Goodbye Kuwait. Goodbye Saudi Arabia.
    Goodbye Canada (their economy is directly tied to the US).

    Then, it's Goodbye to all the next level nations:
    Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France.

    And THEN, dear friends and ancestors in Great Britain,
    IT'S YOUR TURN.

    Oh but I'm sure the CHINESE or the RUSSIANS
    or maybe even the INDIANS would take good care of all
    of this if the US couldn't do it any longer.
    Right?

    NO - Not right

    The USA is not the world policeman, it is the world schoolyard bully. The US Government is just out to pick the pockets of every state or group they run their protection rackets in. I like the USA as a place to go and I like most of the people I have met in extensive travel in the US over many years. However, I do not like US foreign policy and am afraid of the religious extremists who make up the US right wing. Sarah Palin scares me more than Iraq & China combined. As for MacDonalds - I won't go there.

  • Comment number 51.

    I remember in the 1980's everyone was astonished by Japan's success, and it was assumed that Japan would soon be the world's largest economy. Then in the 1990's Japan hit stagnation and hasn't recovered since.

    Like Japan in the 1980's China is basing its growth on exports fueled by an artifically undervalued currency. It's not a sustainable economic model. Also, because of a one child per family policy, China will be experiencing a labor shortage and rapidly aging population over the next couple of decades. One economist noted that China might grow old before it grows rich.


    The biggest mistake people make when trying to predict the future is to assume that current trends will continue indefinitely into the future.

    The United States econonomy is still 2.5 times bigger than China's, even though China has 4.25 times more people. They still have a very long way to go to catch up.

  • Comment number 52.

    It looks like UK is making the same mistake as the Chinese.

    The US is not in decline, we just have incredibly bad trade policy.

    As for the debt issue, it's make believe. What are they going to do? Take us to the world bankruptcy court? Are the bureaucrats in Hague going to make the US pay up?

    History is rife with examples. When a superpower can't pay their debts, they start wars. US-haters better get very careful about what they're wishing for.

    Always remember that money is a construct. Military power is real and has always determined who makes the rules. Look at a map. Most of the industry is huddled around the Sea of China. If there's ever an escalation, it would be pretty easy for the US Navy to cut China off from Western demand.

  • Comment number 53.

    Yet ANOTHER waste of taxpayer's money. Politicians of all parties and in all countries just cannot spend enough of taxpayer's money on silly publicity stunts like this. It will achieve NOTHING - just like every other time they have done this. Meanwhile, working people, who pay the taxes that are used for these silly stunts are struggling to pay their rent/mortgages/electricity bills etc while these politicians spend millions on private jets, luxury hotels and luxury foods - it seems China is no different to western countries at all.

  • Comment number 54.

    The Chinese will get the Americans to jump through hoops just the same as America did to us.

  • Comment number 55.

    41. At 7:04pm on 18 Jan 2011, Augustus wrote:
    At 6:05pm on 18 Jan 2011, deanarabin wrote:
    "I can think of no good reason why there should be so many US topics, but if there is can someone explain why, please and why they can't they be ones in which there is a British connection?"
    --------------------
    Britain had colonial ties to both China and the US... This topic just happens to be about both of them and not it.
    Response: That's a reason that might have applied a couple of hundred years ago but hardly now. We did not have colonial ties to China: we exploited it and were rightly thrown out. True, we colonised a tiny part of what is now the US, but we were (equally rightly but for different reasons) thrown out there too. (Sorry but I always used to go to look at Tom Paine's statue when visiting my friends in Morristown NJ)
    -------------------------------------------------------
    "I watch BBC America almost everyday...You would be surprised at the infuence Brits have over here in general. Nevermind that Britain has exported tons of products, people, & culture to the US over the last few centuries...(early settlers, language, pop/punk music, horrible tv reality spinoffs...)"
    Response: I wouldn't be surprised because I'm no stranger to the US, and do have close friends in the East and former colleagues in DC. I'm glad that you watch BBC America and find it worthwhile, but I still think that some of what the BBC puts on HYS, and its website more generally, belongs on BBC America and not on the main UK site. Can you honestly say an equivalent site in the US (if there is one) would be inviting Americans to discuss a State Visit to the UK by the Chinese President?
    Call me elitist if you like, but I'm not impressed by what you say are the UK's "cultural" influences America; much of it seems to me to be British people trying to sound like Americans and failing dismally. Conversely I lament the fact that Henry James, Walt Whitman and even Damon Runyan are not much better known over here As for ghastly TV "reality" shows, that's something over which I'm with you all the way



  • Comment number 56.

    So the worlds biggest debtor nation is being visited by their bank manager from China. It amuses me to read articles about how the USA is still the only superpower and is far richer than China. China is in the position the USA was in the late 19th century after the civil war was over. The USA had tiny armed forces but was wealthy with no debts, indeed it bought Alaska from Russia and gained control of many of Spain's colonial possessions during this period. The UK at that time was like the USA is now, a former economic powerhouse that was still the world superpower but losing out economically to the USA and Germany with Japan also growing fast.
    It took two world wars before the UK realised it was a small island that nobody owed a living to. How long will it take the USA, and will it involve wars, before they realise their economic position has changed dramatically by overpaying themselves whilst sending all their money to China to buy what they no longer make.

  • Comment number 57.

    Not very.

  • Comment number 58.

    48. At 8:05pm on 18 Jan 2011, RD wrote:

    The Romans during their empire probably had the same level of confidence, and self-righteousness..and look how they ended up.

    ____________________

    You're misreading history and I can't take the irony any longer.

    By the time Rome fell, it had no native military and relied on foreign mercenaries to defend it. If they still had their own army, they would have done what they were doing on the rise. They'd invade a neighbor and take their wealth.

    If you have your own military, money won't stop it. After the English defeated the Spanish Armada, the ships floated offshore for weeks because Elizabeth had no money to pay them when they got home. Did that stop her? Hell no it didn't, it was the dawn of English global power.

    She didn't have a penny to pay them, but she still had the most powerful navy in the Atlantic.

    Now, which once-powerful nations have downsized their militaries into oblivion and rely on foreign armies to defend their interests? That's not the US, people, that's Europe.

  • Comment number 59.

    I've absolutely no idea.

  • Comment number 60.

    I am amazed to find that China has a president. How does one become a president in a country without democracy ? I used to think they were all just "Commie Dictators". The Reagan era was far more simple.

  • Comment number 61.

    china is taking a more balanced view of the world than usa has been so far. china is not only pumping money into usa and europe alone. a lot of southeast asia and africa look more developed because of the chinese infusion of funds. it is said china now finances other countries more than the i.m.f. that is extraordinary and deserves respect. only usa had been able to do that before. and yet china gets lablled as a selfish country. however, china needs to leave the buddhist tibet alone.

  • Comment number 62.

    I don't believe Chihe next world superpower. I can't see any other superpower to emerge in the next thousand years. China are simply on an economic high.

  • Comment number 63.

    American jingoism is so selfdefeating. Without China as America's supermarket to affordable consumer goods the comfortable American lifestyle would be far less comfortable and enjoyable. Fine don't buy Made in China. Try finding an American made TV. It's been twenty years since the last picture tube, not the entire TV, came off an American assembly line. This scenario happened once before with Made in Japan products. The Japanese solved that contentious issue by puting Americans to work in the US making Japanese products especially cars. As for Made in Europe not many average Americans can afford their products except the occasional bottle of French Champaign on New Years Eve. Americans who have it and fluant it still prefer a Mercedes or BMW. The American upper class doesn't growl its discontent by trashing Toyotas as the working class once did and many a GM exec once drove a German luxo car to their office. They don't do that anymore because of the negative public relations with the American auto consumer. You lead by example if you want to sell your stuff. Hu Jintoa's visit to the US will be much about nothing. The righwing press will howl like wild banshees at Obama for letting China get way with things once again but what can the man really do -seriously?" China has become America's creditor.

  • Comment number 64.

    China has 3 big advantages as far as I can see...

    1/ The state doesn't care so much about the working conditions / wages of their workers or the populace in general. The populace are either too afraid to do anything about it, rich enough to turn a blind eye, or just don't care as they have never known anything different. Human rights are pretty poor. Economic success is far more important.

    2/ Why develop technology when you can just take it? No regard for copyright, but then that's the price of greed in sending manufacturing orders there in the first place. Still, there are some arms embargoes in place to limit the most sensitive tech.

    3/ Currency protection. Probably the one that the West cares most about. It's artificially low to impove the value of exports.

    Simply put, the Chinese don't play fair. They playing field is not level. You can't be suprised at that though, it's human nature I suppose.

    Still, when they get human rights, can you imagine the cost to the state of a health service to 1.3 billion.... oh dear.

  • Comment number 65.

    The People's Republic of China needs a strong reminder from Washington, that although it has been forgiven for its participation in the Korean and Vietnam wars, it has not been forgotten. Likewise that the issue of Tibetan independence is not a closed issue. Similarly that we, in the west, are not unaware of China's excessive strategic ambitions, particularly in its immoral and unethical support for Maoist and other extremist insurgents in various places in today's world, in its transparently covert attempts to undermine the efforts of the United States and its close allies in furthering democracy, human freedoms, and forms of development that do strive to preserve aspects of the human social, cultural and physical environment which China seems to be fully willing to at best disregard. There is no more innocence, and claiming innocence cannot hope to win the sort of forgiving and open friendship that has been attempted and nurtured in recent years. If the current course of aggressive ambition remains unchecked, and if China continues to become increasingly blind to its own internal problems, which are growing every day, then it must be made clear that a Cold War and complete turnabout in relations with communist China, in its failure to rehabilitate and cooperate more fully, is a definite and immanent possibility.

  • Comment number 66.

    President Hu's respect for America is a fine, dignified gesture. Harry Truman declared an all-out war on China in 1950. A later Democratic Administration invaded Vietnam and executed over a million defenseless Indo-Chinese. I could only think that his mission is to further Beijing's interest in science and technology.

  • Comment number 67.

    13. At 3:37pm on 18 Jan 2011, MizzJShaw wrote:
    I have never understood how a country with such a terrible human rights record, a complete lack of democracy and huge amounts of poverty among it's people can be described as one of the worlds biggest powers, but then I suppose that was the way ancient Babylon and Rome made it to the top.

    ///

    I agree 100%! And don't get me started on China!

  • Comment number 68.

    My biggest client, currently keeping my business afloat is a massive US chain whose biggest source of income currently comes from its business in China. 'Nuff said.

  • Comment number 69.

    This is a country with a disgusting record on human rights and it's treatment of the poor and China is almost as bad.

  • Comment number 70.

    Heres the thing folks, the power base shifts constantly, it may take decades and generations, but it is in constant flux. America is going the same way as Germany/UK and others before. China will follow in a century too.

    The battles of the haves vs the have nots rages on, with the haves almost always winning.

    What we have to get ride off completely, is governments, all forms, so-called democracies, communism, socialism etc. Power structures are there to protect the wealthy, politicians are puppets.

    Bill Gates gives 20billion in charity, how honourable, too bad nobody talks about the 50billion he takes from the poor. Understand this is the reality in a finite monetary system.


  • Comment number 71.

    With China being one of the USA`s biggest foreign creditors-to the tune of over one trillion, with Hong Kong`s holdings included. You can bet the visit`s important, just hope America does`nt need a "b" plan.

  • Comment number 72.

    A little history reminder

    In the 80s we all heard how the Germans and Japanese were going to take over the economy.

    China also has many weakness such as a dispropotinate standard of living which liberals and latin american despots that criticize the U.S are silent on China

  • Comment number 73.

    27. At 5:08pm on 18 Jan 2011, Doug NYC Van wrote:
    To all you kind folks out there, who seem to relish
    and enjoy and even desire the downfall of the USA,
    best of luck to you when another superpower takes over
    as leader and "world cop".

    It's sad but in this day, we NEED a world cop.
    Who else could do the job?
    Who else would bother or pay for it?

    Without USA as a major leader:
    Goodbye Poland. Goodbye Taiwan. Goodbye Israel.
    Goodbye Tibet. Goodbye Haiti. Goodbye Somalia.
    Goodbye former Russian regions, now nations.
    Goodbye Yugo-Serbia-Bosnia region.
    Goodbye Kuwait. Goodbye Saudi Arabia.
    Goodbye Canada (their economy is directly tied to the US).

    Then, it's Goodbye to all the next level nations:
    Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France.

    And THEN, dear friends and ancestors in Great Britain,
    IT'S YOUR TURN.

    Oh but I'm sure the CHINESE or the RUSSIANS
    or maybe even the INDIANS would take good care of all
    of this if the US couldn't do it any longer.
    Right?

    ////////////////
    You seem to omit the ruthless and self-interested nature of the USA. The US conducts its activities as one would expect a world mafia to. How about the wars it starts with any country that doesn't pay its protection money? Stirring tension between historical enemies, then sitting back to watch who will produce the biggest set of arse-kissing lips (in pro-USA economic terms of course). Ugh....I can't believe I'm even writing this stuff. With the infinite criticm available for this nation it is pointless to try to get them to see themselves as the rest of the world does. Let the guy in the suit make the speech on eloquence and personal hygiene to the rest of us, even with toilet paper stuck to his shoe and poo around his mouth.

  • Comment number 74.

    58. At 8:48pm on 18 Jan 2011, California Mojo wrote:

    48. At 8:05pm on 18 Jan 2011, RD wrote:

    The Romans during their empire probably had the same level of confidence, and self-righteousness..and look how they ended up.

    ____________________

    You're misreading history and I can't take the irony any longer.

    By the time Rome fell, it had no native military and relied on foreign mercenaries to defend it. If they still had their own army, they would have done what they were doing on the rise. They'd invade a neighbor and take their wealth.

    If you have your own military, money won't stop it. After the English defeated the Spanish Armada, the ships floated offshore for weeks because Elizabeth had no money to pay them when they got home. Did that stop her? Hell no it didn't, it was the dawn of English global power.

    She didn't have a penny to pay them, but she still had the most powerful navy in the Atlantic.

    Now, which once-powerful nations have downsized their militaries into oblivion and rely on foreign armies to defend their interests? That's not the US, people, that's Europe.

    ----------------------------------------------

    Isnt that exactly the position the U.S. is now in?

    Iraq, at its peak..over 200k mercenaries..now its probably still flirting around the 50-60k mark. Thats before America or NATOs contribution is even counted in.

    "Post war" Iraq(Americas definition of this, anyway) mercs out-number American soldiers still there. The cost..? easily in the billions, and its guaranteed most are foreign/non-U.S. citizens...Id wager its probably mostly Brits/Germans/South Africans.

    Afghan, close to 30% of the entire force are Europeans...thats not counting the extra German and French and possibly some extra Italians who will most likely be shipped in, in the next 12-15 months.(possibly some more British too, depends on how good at begging Obama or the general he sends is..like last time.)

    The fact America accepted a "massive" contribution from Tonga of..wait..55 men!! on a "rotation" basis shows how America is infact more reliant on foreign troops than ever. If that isnt desperation, or a clear sign that America is over-reaching, I have no idea what is.

    As Im sure you know, Afghan too is becoming more "merc fought" than ever. Wasnt it 71,000 mercs in Afghanistan this time last year? thats before Obama spoke of his "civilian surge" ie; more armed guards, aka mercs.

    Its safe to speculate that number is now easily 80-90k mercs.

    I give it 3-4 months before America once again "asks" Britain, France, or Germany for more.

    Theres a big difference, too, between the wars which ruined European armies and the wars America are prone to waging ; the European wars were wars fought between two trained armies, or more, not ragtag militias making their own cartridges in shacks on the border.

  • Comment number 75.

    being in the current global situation,i love to look at ronald reagan's face now if he is alive.

  • Comment number 76.

    Greek gifts

  • Comment number 77.

    27. At 5:08pm on 18 Jan 2011, Doug NYC Van wrote:
    To all you kind folks out there, who seem to relish
    and enjoy and even desire the downfall of the USA,
    best of luck to you when another superpower takes over
    as leader and "world cop".

    It's sad but in this day, we NEED a world cop.
    Who else could do the job?
    Who else would bother or pay for it?

    Without USA as a major leader:
    Goodbye Poland. Goodbye Taiwan. Goodbye Israel.
    Goodbye Tibet. Goodbye Haiti. Goodbye Somalia.
    Goodbye former Russian regions, now nations.
    Goodbye Yugo-Serbia-Bosnia region.
    Goodbye Kuwait. Goodbye Saudi Arabia.
    Goodbye Canada (their economy is directly tied to the US).

    Then, it's Goodbye to all the next level nations:
    Spain, Portugal, Greece, Germany, France.

    And THEN, dear friends and ancestors in Great Britain,
    IT'S YOUR TURN.

    Oh but I'm sure the CHINESE or the RUSSIANS
    or maybe even the INDIANS would take good care of all
    of this if the US couldn't do it any longer.
    Right?

    ///

    Uhuh. And thanks again for your massive WW2 bill and the stab in the back over Suez.

  • Comment number 78.

    Only Jintao could go to America....


    Sorry, I had to say it!

  • Comment number 79.

    36. At 6:05pm on 18 Jan 2011, deanarabin wrote:
    Am I the only person to think that this is a marginal topic for most of us in the UK?
    How on earth are most of us in the UK supposed to know enough about either China or the US to be able to make a sensible informed comment?
    Why are we seemingly having more and more US-elated topics to discuss?
    (This is after all the website of the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation is it not?)
    I can think of no good reason why there should be so many US topics, but if there is can someone explain why, please and why they can't they be ones in which there is a British connection?
    Is it that the BBC has a very (some would say disproportionately) big and expensive presence in the US to justify, and every little helps?

    -----------------------------------------

    Hey! ever heard about the Global village, do`nt you want to know what`s going on the street?

  • Comment number 80.

    52. At 8:28pm on 18 Jan 2011, California Mojo wrote:

    It looks like UK is making the same mistake as the Chinese.

    The US is not in decline, we just have incredibly bad trade policy.

    As for the debt issue, it's make believe. What are they going to do? Take us to the world bankruptcy court? Are the bureaucrats in Hague going to make the US pay up?

    History is rife with examples. When a superpower can't pay their debts, they start wars. US-haters better get very careful about what they're wishing for.

    Always remember that money is a construct. Military power is real and has always determined who makes the rules. Look at a map. Most of the industry is huddled around the Sea of China. If there's ever an escalation, it would be pretty easy for the US Navy to cut China off from Western demand.

    _____________________________________________

    Tis true, but I think America should be careful also, they're not the only paranoid unpredictable superpower any more.

    Rule number one in military strategy, never underestimate your opponents or allies. WWI and WWII are great examples to look at.

  • Comment number 81.

    66. At 10:23pm on 18 Jan 2011, Dustin83v wrote:

    President Hu's respect for America is a fine, dignified gesture. Harry Truman declared an all-out war on China in 1950. A later Democratic Administration invaded Vietnam and executed over a million defenseless Indo-Chinese. I could only think that his mission is to further Beijing's interest in science and technology.

    Talk about Historical Revisionism. The US supported the Nationalist Government in China, they weren't at War with China they were helping one faction over another. Their guys lost, but it's because the US practiced restraint. The US could have nuked Communist forces to glass and ash but no they decided against ALL OUT War as you put it. Again a few years later in Korea, the US as part of a UN mission pushed North Korean forces out of the South. Then China invaded and attacked UN forces leading to the war coming to a stalemate. Again the US chose not to use Nuclear weapons against China.

    Sorry but your idea the US is some big bully with no heart and no brains isn't born out by history. We're about the nicest Superpower the world has ever seen.

  • Comment number 82.

    1) For the currency issue:

    Chinese Yuan is to serve China's ecnomic growth and national interest, just as the US dollar is to serve the American one.

    Lots of people accuse Yuan is under valued? But they never provide a bullit proof evidence. Besides, how the value to be determined is very controversial and complicated. Value of currency is not like the value of stock; in US, there is a SEC, if anyone violates the rule, the cop will after you. But currency is a different story, behind it is the overall stength of a nation. Only a stronger nation can get a good deal. For example, 1999, right after Euro was lauched, US attacked Yugoslavia which hurted the investors confidence in Euro and Euro worked very hard to get out it. Just last year, US prints more money just for its own interests (i will say the elite class's interests)and cause inflation elsewhere in the world.

    People in west always saying that the reason their jobs are in danger are primarily because the value of Yuan; in order to have more jobs, Yuan needs to appreciate. However, if China appreicates Yuan, the interest's of people in China will be harmmed and they will lose jobs. During the 90's, the US force Japan to appreciate its currency for the good of US, then People of Japan suffers 10 years of ecnomic depression and millions of people lost their home and hope. So we will not let it happen in China. Because China is not Japan or Korea(figure head of US). Even though, there are indeed some people in the west lost their job because of the value of Yuan; compare what wests have done to China it is nothing. From 1840 to 1949, the wests have invaded China in numerous times did the mess murder and took lots of sliver, gold and other natural resources away. Taking a few jobs from west is still not enough pay that back.


    2) Military expansion

    A country needs military to protect its economy, if the military force can not meet the requirement, the contry will suffer; China is a good case in example. China used to be very rich and didnt seek to invade, so the military force and technology was not developed accordingly, then the tragedy happens: June 17 1900, Japan, US, Austria, Brition, France, Germany, Italy and Australia invaded China and took 1.5 milion Kg of Sliver, did mess murder in the city of Beijing and raped women in milions. They even didnt let a woman in 80s go. Moreover, they burned down the most magnificent Royal palace (the summer palace) and took all the treasure away.

    When i was a kid, once I met any difficulies, my teacher will tell me the story of summer palace: "be strong, if we dont work hard and try hard, our country will suffer a new Summer Palace again." At that time, I dont believe this will happen in the modern world until the US/UK invasion of Iraq. It made me so shocked and angry, especailly when i saw the news that the US soldier sexually abuse the Iraqi Prisoners of War.

    Right now, US military base is just at our door way -- Japan, Korea and southeast Asia, with their missiles aimed at us, threating our children. So China needs a strong military force. Right now, our central gov doesnt think this way, but i hope we can drive US military our East Asia where used be our territory.

    A South African's politican once said: "When the westerner came, we have the gold, they have bible. Now, they have the gold and we have the Bible."


    3) Human Rights

    Generally, there are two major culture system: East and West. In China, if someone commit a crime (murder or Treason), that person gives up his human right automatically base on our culture, it is a way to deter criminals. After the wars between China, the western one became popular. But it doesnt mean the western one is 'right'. In China, we have our own definitions, we dont need others to tell us what to do but they can provide suggestions.

    4) Democracy

    The current Democrcay is from the Roman and Greek times and it is based on the western culture, which doesnt work in China at all. We will choose the polical system base on our needs and situation, we dont need others to tell us what to do but they can provide suggestions.

    Plus, the current Democracy in west is far away from the Democracy people desire. Yes, there are indeed elections in west, but it is the money or corporate interests dominate the results and the people. Moreover, the current western Democracy doesnt stop the evil. US/UK's invasion is a good case in example. Both country declare themselve as civilized Democratic country. But sorry, this is not what people in China want.

  • Comment number 83.


    Hu was invited to visit the White House. As a guest and head-of-state, he ought to be treated as one, respected and honoured.

    Let the two giant nations talk and sort out sensitive issues amiably. Just be reminded that the US is not the only one to call the shots nowadays.
    (tbt43)

  • Comment number 84.

    81. At 01:12am on 19 Jan 2011, Risforme wrote:
    Sorry but your idea the US is some big bully with no heart and no brains isn't born out by history. We're about the nicest Superpower the world has ever seen.

    Aren't the US the only ones who HAVE used a nuclear weapon on civilians? Should the rest of the world be grateful that you have only done it a couple of times?

  • Comment number 85.

    Hu Jintao's visit is very important to have a stable currency that is fully redeemable all over the world, it is known as the great American Dollar. Since China is single handedly holding all the papers for American debt instead of any Gold standard. Otherwise HU Jintao will be known as Who Jintao. China has many countries in this world who buy their goods and services, they will not and cannot run their business model based on democracy, dictatorship with denial of rights is the only model to produce so many variety of goods at low, low prices. There is NO mention on any TV channels about Jintao's visit, in fact there are no articles showing what is happening in China to the dissidents. When it comes to profits everyone is selfish for their share.

  • Comment number 86.

    The only thing Obama the clown has done since taking office is to borrow and spend Chinese money. He has yet to do one positive thing for my country or the world for that matter.
    Not one thing has this man done to improve my nation's economy, business environment, industry, or international trade. He is hostile to the very idea of producing our own enegy and has done his best to kill off our energy producing sector. He borrowed a Trillion dollars from China in his fiest few months and squandered it on Governemnt unions as if that would really help the economy.
    He is a disaster for my nation and the sooner he is gone the better.

  • Comment number 87.

    @80. Joe wrote:

    Rule number one in military strategy, never underestimate your opponents or allies. WWI and WWII are great examples to look at.

    Some allies can be counted on to show up a couple of years late. These allies are hard to understand and estimate.

  • Comment number 88.

    Wake up and understand China's real agenda...it's not rocket science
    http://atrueott.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/china.pdf

  • Comment number 89.

    I dont think it is very important at all. Both leaders will blow a lot of hot air, be very polite and nothing will change.

  • Comment number 90.

    62. At 9:43pm on 18 Jan 2011, U14751399 wrote:

    I don't believe Chihe next world superpower. I can't see any other superpower to emerge in the next thousand years. China are simply on an economic high.

    -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_

    You obviously have a very blinkered mind.

  • Comment number 91.

    10. At 2:52pm on 18 Jan 2011, Neil Probert wrote:
    China needs the U.S. more than vice-versa; why do you think China is a major buyer of U.S. bonds?
    .............

    errrrrrrr probably because it's cheap money ....for the moment. But even the land of apple pie can't keep running a deficit of such magnitude. Ever considered what would happen if China defaulted - whether by accident or design? China is also diversifying its holdings away from the $......they can see the cavernous cracks appearing...don't mistake them for fools - they've been at this game when the west was in mud huts.

  • Comment number 92.

    81. At 01:12am on 19 Jan 2011, Risforme wrote:
    it's because the US practiced restraint. The US could have nuked Communist forces to glass and ash but no they decided against ALL OUT War as you put it.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    so you think US didn't nuke china coz of benevolence huh? wrong, they didn't because soviet union had nukes too. if US was the only country that has nukes, i can't imagine what the world would be like now. i'm so glad USSR got nukes, coz who knows what would've happened if they didn't, US could have been nuke happy. i might not have been born in that case. good to have balance

  • Comment number 93.

    80. At 00:07am on 19 Jan 2011, Joe wrote:
    52. At 8:28pm on 18 Jan 2011, California Mojo wrote:

    It looks like UK is making the same mistake as the Chinese.

    The US is not in decline, we just have incredibly bad trade policy.

    As for the debt issue, it's make believe. What are they going to do? Take us to the world bankruptcy court? Are the bureaucrats in Hague going to make the US pay up?

    History is rife with examples. When a superpower can't pay their debts, they start wars. US-haters better get very careful about what they're wishing for.

    Always remember that money is a construct. Military power is real and has always determined who makes the rules. Look at a map. Most of the industry is huddled around the Sea of China. If there's ever an escalation, it would be pretty easy for the US Navy to cut China off from Western demand.
    ...........

    Why should they continue to supply the west? There is ample market in the F/east - that's where the majority of demand WILL come from....why sell to nations with collapsing currency(ies)? The Pacific Ring nations, Latin America & India are the markets & powerhouses of tomorrow - the west has had it's day.

  • Comment number 94.

    22. At 4:37pm on 18 Jan 2011, Piggyback wrote:
    So much misinformation here. Somehow the west's freedom of the press has not reliably informed their citizens of China or indeed, the rest of the world. Apparently China needs the US more than vice versa... so tell me why have the US government agreed on a deal a few weeks ago to borrow a further $1 TRILLION dollars off the Chinese?

    ---------------------------------------------------

    Because they are bankrupt and NEED Chinese money, so who needs who most??

  • Comment number 95.

    What do you think about Hu Jintao's state visit to the US?

    State visit? More like a doctor visiting to find out the state of his patient.

  • Comment number 96.

    13. At 3:37pm on 18 Jan 2011, MizzJShaw wrote:

    I have never understood how a country with such a terrible human rights record, a complete lack of democracy and huge amounts of poverty among it's people can be described as one of the worlds biggest powers, but then I suppose that was the way ancient Babylon and Rome made it to the top.

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think you may be being a little hard on the US here but your description is basically true.

  • Comment number 97.

    First, I am curious why so many people from the west are threatened by the rise of China, e.g. Australia, U.K., U.S., and etc. Have China ever invaded Australia, U.K., U.S. and etc??? If you learn some history, it seems that it is western countries, e.g. U.S., U.K., France and etc, plus Japan, brutally invaded China, occupied China and forced China to buy Opiums. During the 15th centuries, even when China has the strongest fleet on earth then, we sent our fleet out to trade, not to invade other countries.

    Second, so many of westerners seem to be so surprised at China's rise. Have you learned any history at all? Chinese civilization is the longest continual civilization on earth for more than two thousand years. At the same time, China has been the No. 1 wealthiest and powerful country on earth for at least 18 out of 20 centuries. For the past two centuries, China has fallen to foreign invasions, internal warlord in-fights and etc. However, China, like a phoenix, rises again from the fire and quickly regain itself.

    Third, many westerners seem to blame China for their own problems. They forget their own never-ending consumption-ism, bad financial policies, bad foreign policies and huge war spending and etc drag themselves into the deep hole. While it is China who offers its help during your down times. We have helped Europe and U.S.'s recovery a big time.

  • Comment number 98.

    China holds so much of the US debts and others, maybe they will just ask for California or Utah as payment in return. Yes Utah I think because of the open spaces. Waht does a bailiff do if you cannot pay...he takes what you own.... all of you remeber this.

    Will Hu's visit include a tour of some states, maybe he is looking for a nice bit of realty (in the UK we say property).

  • Comment number 99.

    im always amazed at the rubish people come up with!
    china a military super power? dont make me laugh germany and france alone could take on china and win!

    as for the usa?
    it has 74 subs china jas about. 4
    usa 2.6k of the newest planes out there
    china has 1.3k old oitdated fighters
    budgets usa 700bn china 80bn
    also china has no aircraft carriers


    economic super power yea!
    military threat? not even close!

  • Comment number 100.

    Locally it may boost trading, cosmically insignificant.

 

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