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Gordon Farquhar | 08:48 UK time, Saturday, 9 October 2010

There's been daily, strong criticism in Delhi of the Commonwealth Games organisers' inability to sell enough tickets. Today, they're blaming sponsors for failing to use up their complimentary seats.

They certainly haven't denied reports that sackfuls of unused sponsors tickets have been seen being taken away from venues to be shredded. The Commonwealth Games Federation is investigating reports that people are queuing to buy tickets, only to be told there aren't any available for sessions they're interested in, and then later for those same sessions to remain half empty. The feeling is that's not just down to corporate no-shows.

Mike Fennell, the chairman of the Games Federation, says something is wrong, doesn't add up, and they want answers.

Crowds have been increasing, but so too have complaints from athletes about spectators not respecting their competitions.

Crowd noise has been identified as being responsible for false starts at the swimming and athletics, notably during the hugely controversial women's 100m final.

Amy Oliver, women's recurve finals

Oliver helped secure silver in the women's recurve. Photo: AFP

At the archery, a coach and horses has been driven through the conventions of spectating. Where normally there'd be silence as the archer draws the bow, there's been loud banter.

England's Amy Oliver said the chanting of "Come on India" as she took aim, in the women's team recurve event, was distracting. "The crowd was not good. They were pretty loud - it was not good sportsmanship for archery, " she said.

Her team-mate, the hugely experienced Alison Williamson, said: "I liken it to golf. You don't get people clapping and shouting when someone is teeing off."

At the pool, it has spilled over into a row that's now brought accusations of racism against a South African swimmer, Roland Schoeman. He narrowly avoided disqualification after a false start in the semi-finals of the men's 50m freestyle.

Afterwards, he angrily told Australian TV: "It's an absolute disgrace. There's a guy in the stands just shouting, shouting, shouting. Somebody like that needs to be ejected. It's unacceptable to be at a professional event like this and have people going on like monkeys. Someone like that doesn't deserve to be here."

The gap between what he might have intended, and how his words are being interpreted, is growing.

I was at the squash finals, where a decent-sized, and knowledgeable crowd, (significantly less than the claimed sell-out,) created a great atmosphere and only once had to be admonished by the announcer for inappropriate "interventions."

Fennell says this is a problem everywhere, not just in India, and that the announcers and commentators at the venues have to take the initiative.

"This is a key issue," he said. "We do have specialist sports presenters and it's a matter within the sports presentation, the information they give, how they ensure that the crowd keeps quiet at the appropriate times.

"Sometimes it's a bit of a struggle, but we do continuously ask the sports presenters to pay attention to these matters.... if you require absolute quiet at sensitive moments during the course of the competition, the presenters should do their best to try to ensure quiet at that time."

Athletes, the organisers, broadcasters and the federation all want crowds, but sometimes it seems, we have to be careful what we wish for...

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  • Comment number 1.

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  • Comment number 2.

    Crowds are different. Even cricket in England is played in less noisear environment. Athletes should be able to adapt. Did any of the atheletes from subcontinant complained about lack of noice or cold climate reducing their performance in other countries or the noicy or hot environment causing problems in Delhi!!!

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  • Comment number 4.

    Hi Gordon,

    We in India don't have a culture of having large sporting events other than Cricket. Add to that it requires a lot of motivation to leave work in the middle of a week day and go for an event where your country won't be even be playing. Since you have been covering from day one, i am sure you would have noticed the increasing numbers and interest in the games. Let this rest, this is probably the maximum you'll get in terms of attendance. It might be a way to measure the success of the games, but in my mind, even getting this much attendance is a success and a good start for the future of such events in India. And i really doubt any of the foreign teams care that there aren't people there for certain events.

    And the flip side is that for events where people are showing up, the fans are now being blamed by players for being too loud. Its quite ridiculous to blame fans. There are international referees at each event, if they want the audience to be quiet, there are enough loud speakers in the stadiums to inform people and i have been to a few events, there is clearly enough security to chuck out anyone who is not following the rules. Blame the organizers, not the fans, they are there to show their support.

    And this doesn't mean the players can get away with rude or racist comments, your story doesn't mention the English Archery player who made a crude remark to an Indian coach after losing to the Indian Team yesterday.

    People who enjoy such games, will be there and i am sure they will enjoy whether its empty or not, like the lovely squash match last night.

  • Comment number 5.

    And this doesn't mean the players can get away with rude or racist comments, your story doesn't mention the English Archery player who made a crude remark to an Indian coach after losing to the Indian Team yesterday.
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    Yes, Gordon, how come you failed to mention that? Isn't that biased?

  • Comment number 6.

    Organisers' inability to sell enough tickets.
    Commonwealth Games Federation has launched an investigation into complaints of no ticket availability in spite of empty seats.
    Apparently CGF Chief Michael Fennell: “If people go to the ticketing counters and they don't get tickets there is a problem. We have asked for an investigation and we hope to get a report by tomorrow."
    OC chairman Suresh Kalmadi did not attend the media conference (2cd day in a row).
    Commonwealth Games Organising Committee Secretary General Lalit Bhanot: "We have sold 946,206 tickets till now, including 50,000 yesterday, and the interest of the people is increasing.”
    As for noise, the main noise that would seem inappropriate are rude gestures and racial slurs.
    e.g. One of South Africa’s most famous sportspersons, Roland Schoeman, African athlete of the year (2004), insulted the Indian crowd at the aquatic centre on Friday, calling spectators “monkeys” and the Games “a joke”.
    Afterwards, he told Australian TV: "It's an absolute disgrace. There's a guy in the stands just shouting, shouting, shouting. Somebody like that needs to be ejected."
    Fennell said the problem was everywhere, not just in India, and that the announcers and commentators at the venues have to take the initiative. "Sometimes it's a bit of a struggle, but we do continuously ask the sports presenters to pay attention to these matters.... if you require absolute quiet at sensitive moments during the course of the competition, the presenters should do their best to try to ensure quiet at that time."
    Fennell said the slew of problems being encountered in the Games have not affected the conduct of competitions and comfort of athletes.
    "They (the problems) have not affected the competitions. All the competition venues are all right and the events are running on schedule. We are getting continued positive feedback from the athletes..."
    There are certainly tensions at these Commonwealth Games, but whereas, Indian newspapers are concentrating on medals won and other good things, it almost seems like western newspapers have chosen to concentrate on any and everything that goes wrong, as though there's a western pact to make India look bad.
    Then the question would become: Why has the Commonwealth turned so badly against India? Is it poltical?

  • Comment number 7.

    Correction to my earlier comment:

    CNN-IBN (India) reported that one of the Indian Coaches has stated that an English Official from the Archery Team, said a profanity to him as he approached the official for the customary hand shake after the event.

    NONE of the Players made the remarks.

  • Comment number 8.

    The athletes should thank their lucky stars cos there were not much vuvuzelas (just wondering what their state would have been had they got an environment as that of world cup football in South Africa). So stop complaining and concentrate on the games.

  • Comment number 9.

    Looks like only the international journalists seem to be having all the problems and cribbing cos most of the athletes seem to be enjoying their stay in Delhi.

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  • Comment number 11.

    Moan Moan Moan

    Come on grow up and play the games and win medals for England.Thats good for Team GB 2012 Olympics not all the moaning about trivial issues.If we don't stop doing this we will get GOLD MEDAL FOR MOANING.

  • Comment number 12.

    Aru says "Thats good for Team GB 2012 Olympics".

    So are Northern Ireland not competing at the 2012 Olympics? Or are we to continue with the lazy nonsense that also sees England fans in India waving Union flags.

  • Comment number 13.

    @10 Raghuram

    Cerainly a must read, if you want to read a load of racist drivel. If an English archery offical has abused someone from the Indian team then by all means they should be compelled to explain their actions and apologise, but this works both ways.

    I fail to see how the article you've linked to in any way contributes to this discussion.

  • Comment number 14.

    The Empire Strikes Back…
    There has indeed been daily criticism about the Dehli Games.
    When problems arose (e.g. athletes’ village) suddenly the Commonwealth Games in India became just about THE biggest of news' stories, at least in former Mother Britain. The news stories poured under headlines: ‘filthy’ living quarters. unfinished buildings, foreign athletes could be at risk from terrorists, dengue fever…and on and on and on…
    How much does this have to do with the IMF's projected growth in India at 9.5% - but heh - just look at her dirty buildings!
    The former rulers of the British Empire cannot keep India from growth; India’s darker subjects are showing they are not racially inferior, but capable, intelligent. So it seems that Britain can only put them down with verbal whippings.
    The first CW Games took place in 1911 (part of the celebrations re the coronation of King Edward VII. Teams from Britain, Australia, South Africa and Canada participated.) The first Empire Games were held in 1930, in Canada, in an era when the British Empire was beginning to come under pressure. Rival powers were cropping up – Germany, Japan, the US – AND THERE WAS A GROWING NATIONAL LIBERATION MOVEMENT IN INDIA AND OTHER COLONIES.
    I propose the name of these games be changed to: Political Competition within the Commonwealth.
    In 1954 the name was changed to: The British Empire and Commonwealth Games, a last attempt I guess to hang on to the old Empire (at least in name).
    In 1970, the event became The British Commonwealth Games.
    By 1978 the ‘British’ had been erased entirely. This same year marked a new high for the event, with almost 1,500 athletes from 46 countries taking part, but Britain’s prestige sagged.
    The foregoing is the history that might explain the unnending criticism of India, the lingering, persistent old prejudices.
    Did this sort of “attack” not occur as the west tried to put-down the 2008 Beijing Olympics. The Olympic Games were used to tackle the world’s new economic superpower - Chinese pollution, Chinese human rights…and so on...
    Now the old Empire + Western newsprint have turned their criticsm against fast-developing India.
    Here’s an idea: India should have put the atheletes in military barracks. Isn’t that what Britain did with male competitors at the 1948 London Olympics - though they allowed the athletes a bit of extra grub?
    London 2012 Games, the facilities, an British example of how to get things done, have trebled in price to well over £9B since BEFORE construction began.
    As I said in a previous subvmission, there are tensions at the Commonwealth Games; part of it us India’s own attitude. Not all Indians are pleased to perform under the ominous shadow of the old British Empire; they won their freedom - 60 years ago. This tension came to the fore in the struggle over who should "officially" open the games. The queen said she was not avaiable; Philip wouldn’t go without her. It was assumed that Prince Charles would substitute, wave his royal hand at the swarming natives.
    But the Indians wanted their own national president to open the games. How dare they! What pomposity!
    The Commonwealth Games is becoming a victim to changes re world order.
    All these complaining atheletes, I have on doubt will eagerly participate at the 2012 London Olympics, even if housed in barracks and fed Spam.
    As for the BBC where is all the coverage of these Commonwealth Games in India so the world can see & judge for itself?
    Why must the world be so jealous, devisive? I thought people were people. If you cut them, they all bleed red – all of them.

  • Comment number 15.

    the kind of moaning we are seeing from some athletes including reporters shows that they are taking too seriously to fake their orgasm thinking they will get away with anything including racism in kamasutra land. just perform keeping mouth shut and dont fake it there is no medal for faking it.

  • Comment number 16.

    Any event that needs a "start" also needs silence to make sure that there's fair competition, it's not difficult to achieve, it just takes a few announcements and if anyone is still screaming like a monkey (how is that racist???) just eject them from the arena.

    @raghuram
    That could have been a very good article, it's just a pity that the authour descends into the racism he/she accuses others of.
    The main problem with ANY athlete is the fact that they are so finely honed thoroughbreds that they suffer worse from minor ailments that would barely affect the average person, they have to maintain their bodies at a level that most of us couldn't cope with and with overtraining and strict dietry requirements they are actually MORE susceptible to disease.

  • Comment number 17.

    I've been told that the BBC provides more than 50% of the international media at the CWG ...I'm wondering whether this is true ( not that there's anything wrong with that )

  • Comment number 18.

    Bluesberry, yes I read that report and also just finihsed watching an interview with an australian and a british journalist in NDTV. They accepted the fact that the main reason why mainly negative stories and trivial issues of this games are published because of their anti-India plan. They said they already came up with this plan even before the start of the games. Thus, proves all the negative stories are political!

    A nice statement:
    One reason why world sporting events like the Commonwealth Games are held in different parts of the world is that sportsmen who are supposed to be alpha examples of fitness, strength and stamina of their respective cultures are exposed to very different and diverse climatic conditions across the planet, such rigorous conditions testing their true genetic agility, mental flexibility and physical mettle. What good is a cyclist who is at home in the Tour de France, but cannot tolerate cycling in Egypt in the month of June? Why do cricketers from India, used to flat pitches and hot weather, go and play in South Africa where the pitches are bouncier and the climate windier, or in the UK, where it can rain anytime and its cold and grey most of the time, and half the cricket matches get washed out anyway? They do it because that is precisely what this is all about – playing the sport in different conditions and adapting to those conditions to deliver your best everywhere.

    Well if you can’t handle it dear boy, there’s always mum back home with her water bottle – filled with hygienic, double-disinfected mineral water, fortified with extra vitamins and minerals. Go boy, go home.

    And judge not. For ye shall be judged in turn.

  • Comment number 19.

    From a country who is striving to be a Superpower it has been a poor games:
    Using outdated building techniques and only just getting the athletes village ready on time.
    Athletes becoming ill because of unsanitary conditions in the village.
    Low crowds (give the tickets to school kids!)

    All very disappointing, the blame must fall on the organisers. They are evidence of India having a very long way to go before they can consider themselves a modern nation. Shame really.

  • Comment number 20.

    Athletes becoming ill because of unsanitary conditions in the village.
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    Really?? This has been proved wrong Trafford-white....don't just blindly go by what BBC says because they never followed it up till the end.

    Here is the link to that interview I mentioned earlier...
    http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/is-the-foreign-media-needlessly-attacking-the-cwg/168346

  • Comment number 21.

    #4 and #7
    So you're basically saying that you, as a fan, has no responsibility for behaving appropriately? If you are an adult, then I would suggest that you are completely able to take responsibility for your own actions.

    I'm not in India, but was watching the archery on television, and it was blatantly obvious that the crowd were pretty quiet when the Indian archers were taking their shots, but then the noise was cranked up when the English archers were taking their turn. It was a terrible lack of sportsmanship on behalf of the crowd, and whilst swearing at an opponent is not acceptable, they are human beings and would have doubtless felt extremely angry at what happened.

    It is driving me mad how any criticism of India compels the likes of you to start shouting that people are being racist. Thankfully not all of your countrymen contributing on the boards are so blinkered and take a more balanced view of whats happened before and during these Games.

    #18 yet another person who can't tolerate anything they believe denigrates their country. Take the damned blinkers off and accept that not everything has gone smoothly, and just realise that people are fully entitled to put their opinions forward. Coming out with claptrap like "and judge not, for ye shall be judged in turn" is a nonsense. You're judging someone you disagree with - read up the meaning of hypocrite in the dictionary.

  • Comment number 22.

    The blame for the failure of these Commnonwealth Games must go to the decision makers and organisers .
    All knew that India is a mixture of third world poverty and modern technology, It has a well deserved reputation for lack of hygeine , dirty water and all manner of things not conducive to the best athletic performance.
    The so called largest democracy versus the largest communist country is now clearly apparent.
    The denial and failure of all who support incompetence does not bode well for improvement.

  • Comment number 23.

    INDIAN crowds will do anything for their team Victory, I remember in 1996 Cricket World Cup Semi Finals, Throwing Stones, Bottles to Sri lanken Players when they new Their team going to loose, & if you watch Cricket you may know how the Indian Players Behave In the Cricket field, for me Indian don't have a Sportsmanship, so it's not a New thing to Indian.

  • Comment number 24.

    First there are complaints about not enough crowd, now they are complaining about loud crowds. This is just a lame excuse for athletes not holding their nerves well enough, a small example:

    Oliver added: "I was nervous, the crowd was not good."
    "They were pretty loud and it was not good sportsmanship for archery."

    If you look at the replays the crowd was much louder when Williamson took her shot, but she managed to hit 9, so Oliver complaining about the crowds is clear rubbish, good sportsmanship shines when you admit your own faults rather then blame others.

    As far as athletes having a hard time with the environment and weather, etc.:

    "One reason why world sporting events like the Commonwealth Games are held in different parts of the world is that sportsmen who are supposed to be alpha examples of fitness, strength and stamina of their respective cultures are exposed to very different and diverse climatic conditions across the planet, such rigorous conditions testing their true genetic agility, mental flexibility and physical mettle. What good is a cyclist who is at home in the Tour de France, but cannot tolerate cycling in Egypt in the month of June?"

    And yes, the organisers did an awful job with the running up to these games, but you cant blame a whole city of 40 million people or a country of 1 billion people for what 100 corrupt politicians do for their greed. If you are a good athlete you will know how to overcome these obstacles, that is why you were chosen by your countries to represent them. If you cant handle the pressure then perhaps think of a career change.

  • Comment number 25.

    Jack123: Unsanitary conditions exist throughout India, it's part of the culture of the place. Acceptable if you're a tourist, maybe but not as a top athlete.

    All the talk of Anti India bias is complete lunacy. Conspiracy theories don't exist. It reminds me of the PCB claims of an Indian conspiracy to frame Pakistani cricketers for match fixing.

    The sooner everyone accepts the incompetence of governments and the institutional corruption endemic in developing countries the sooner they can find a solution.

  • Comment number 26.

    24. At 4:26pm on 09 Oct 2010, LiveFromScotland wrote:
    First there are complaints about not enough crowd, now they are complaining about loud crowds. This is just a lame excuse for athletes not holding their nerves well enough, a small example:

    Oliver added: "I was nervous, the crowd was not good."
    "They were pretty loud and it was not good sportsmanship for archery."

    If you look at the replays the crowd was much louder when Williamson took her shot, but she managed to hit 9, so Oliver complaining about the crowds is clear rubbish, good sportsmanship shines when you admit your own faults rather then blame others.

    More nonsense... how about good sportsmanship from the crowd? You also patently ignore the fact that the English girls said that the Indian's deserved to win. Oh, but of course that doesn't fit with you trying to paint the English archers as being unsportsmanlike does it. Instead of peddling lies, or half-truths, look at the whole picture.

  • Comment number 27.

    Traforrd-white: "Unsanitary conditions exist throughout India"

    Dude,honestly, that shows your lack of knowledge about India. I agree it exists in small quarters but what you stated there is not true! Have you travelled around India in the past one year or so!! If not, please don't comment for your own sake.

  • Comment number 28.

    I think I am beginning to understand why BBC is so hell bent on reporting ONLY the negative aspects of CWG.

    For a moment, imagine the games venue is London and not Delhi. Also imagine sending out an Indian journalist, who had never stepped out of his country before, to report the games. Now, this guy cannot get past the fact that majority of British people eat cow meat. Everything he experiences and reports is heavily influenced by his horror at cow-eating people. He is compelled to point out at the horrible custom of cow-eating before anything newsworthy is added to the report.

    Fast forward to reality. Now you know why Gordon Farquhar and his colleagues are reporting the way they do. The kind of reporting they do, tells more about their blinkered view of the world than anything else.

    Please note, I personally have nothing against people eating cow meat. I am only trying to illustrate how people behave when they meet a country/culture they don't fully understand. I am not asking BBC to sing praises of India, all I am asking them is have the courage to take their blinkers off. May be I am asking too much.

  • Comment number 29.

    We now know that the World's largest Communist nation can organize international sport events tremendously well and the world's largest democracy cannot.

  • Comment number 30.

    #28 take your blinkers off, and try reading thoroughly, what people write. What on earth are you going on about English people eating beef for? When will you people stop being so blind to the world around you. If you think people won't criticise London if things go wrong, you're completely mistaken!

  • Comment number 31.

    Regarding the archery finals: the crowds rowdy (or as others may call, passionate:-)) behavior has come in for a lot of criticism, perhaps rightly. However, here is my question: if absolute silence is necessary prelude to a good performance by the archers, then why didn't the English archers wait for the right conditions before taking their shots? Perhaps refusal to take the shot till conditions became conducive would have resulted in announcements to that effect? Ot just seems the logical thing to do, I have seen that happen so many times in tennis tournaments including the USOPEN and Wimbledon: Players do not serve till the referee says, "quiet please". Much rarely, golf too! Is this public address-based intervention not permitted in archery, or is it just a justification for being second best!

  • Comment number 32.

    #21 - No ones defending unruly behavior. And look none of us were actually there, so honestly we can't judge whether it was loud or rowdy or down right lacking sportsmanship.

    None of it justifies any sort of crude behavior from the athletes or the officials there from either side.

    And loud or rowdy fans are there many places, and if they were shushing up for the Indians but loud when the English were playing, then can't blame them can you, they would obviously want their own to win.

    Lets also use common sense, there are international referees at these events, if they really felt that the crowd was so unruly as to disrupt play, they very well would have stopped the competition there and then.

    Also, like the username says, i have gone to a few of the games and again believe me there is enough security to throw the entire audience if they want.

    I personally don't know the what the audience etiquette is supposed to be at Archery games, but lets not make this into a such a big thing, loud crowds are not unique to India. And all sorts of crude or racist behavior of athletes and officials should be dealt with sternly. And this rule goes both ways.

  • Comment number 33.

    # 30
    "try reading thoroughly, what people write."

    Perhaps you should practice what you preach?

  • Comment number 34.

    #33 in reference to what might I ask?

  • Comment number 35.

    Fans have been disgraceful this week, mean full on cheering in the middle of a point in tennis. Please. it's not hard to be quiet. Cheering at the start of the 100m because of an Indian athelte is doing something else. Please it's not only irratating but it is rude and unsportsman like, if one can't conduct themselves properly then they should be asked to leave

  • Comment number 36.

    #34
    You said "What on earth are you going on about English people eating beef for? "

    You wouldn't be asking that if you read my post 'thoroughly'.

  • Comment number 37.

    I heard that the audience on the Indian 'Who Wants to be a Millioinaire' deliberately give the 'wrong' answers on the ask the audience bit, and then shout out the right ones to scupper contestants further. They are an odd lot.lol

  • Comment number 38.

    #36 well if you try reading what I wrote, you wouldn't be asking! You were going on about the English eating beef, albeit in a rhetorical way, so my point stands about why on earth you were using it as an example? Its a bizarre thing to use in comparison to what you feel is happening with India.

  • Comment number 39.

    It does seem quite odd that the most blinkered and hypocritical views on site seem to come from Indians, the BBC rightly highlights many of the problems that have occured, yet there are even more articles about the sports themselves and even a few of those heartwarming "human interest stories" that show what events like this are really about.

    Yet MOST posts by Indians are made just to attack the BBC and the "western media" and many even accuse us being racist or simply hell-bent on making India look incompetent (which they've proved to be), we're whinging little Englanders (pot, kettle, black), we don't understand anything about the culture (what difference does that make), or are just attacks on the Commonwealth itself (not really the place for it).

    Grow up and be realists please.

  • Comment number 40.

    If there's no crowd - then there are complaints - if there are big crowds there are complaints!!! If 2 Aussies become sick - there are complaints, if the boxing scales show the boxers are overweight then again there are complaints!!!! What's going on.. enjoy the games - these are FRIENDLY GAMES and should be seen as such.. I've never heard such biased press criticism of the CWG before - why now.. Get over the fact that an up-coming third world country such as India can put on a brilliant show, and stop moaning like a bunch of Sheilas!!! The 'filthy' accommodation pictures that are flashed across the tv screens are over 3 months old, and were used to house the builders/workers for the complexes.. These are the same people who have built Dubai's fantastic city - yet they live in similar if not worse places than that showed by all these bigoted News sites.. . At least here in Delhi, each athlete has one toilet per flat, whereas in the last CWG in Australia, 5 athletes shared ONE between them.. Let the games continue in the spirit they were meant to be, with respect and humility, and warmth...!

  • Comment number 41.

    Why isn't my comment being shown?

  • Comment number 42.

    Surreybloke123,
    I find the reporting on BBC equally bizarre. I am all for honest, objective reporting. I loved them when they aired an interview with chief minister of Madhya Pradesh about Bhopal gas tragedy. The reported ripped the minister apart with hard hitting questions.

    I have been an avid listener to BBC World Service for nearly 25 years. I must tell you, I am completely at loss to understand why they have suddenly picked up this blatantly negative way of reporting.

    I know the scale of corruption and incompetence of organizers is indefensible. But, India did pull out all stops to make the athletes feel comfortable and secure. Take the recent example of suspicion on pool water. Big chunks of airtime was reserved for this negative news. Subsequent news about pool water being absolutely safe received almost no airtime. This pattern is repeated again and again.

  • Comment number 43.

    Foreign media loss face as their pre-decided stories didn’t work well to defame a country. Now they are trying their best to prove India is incompetent or Indian fans are ill-behaved (because they were repeating “come-on India”). Your athletes are making such trivial excuses to cover-up their failure, expecting that their home nation’s special sports analysts would back them through sympathetic writing. Tomorrow there is a high chance of appearance of another blog heading “A stray dog in stadium affected our athlete’s performance”. Shame on you guys who even tend to make news against CWG organisers for the stomach illness of their athletes. You better advice them to maintain good personal hygiene to avoid stomach bugs.

  • Comment number 44.

    At least here in Delhi, each athlete has one toilet per flat, whereas in the last CWG in Australia, 5 athletes shared ONE between them.. Let the games continue in the spirit they were meant to be, with respect and humility, and warmth...!
    ___________

    Most people in shared uni have to share between 5, Delhi is luxery on the toliet per person front

  • Comment number 45.

    When you didn't get enough or expected medals,says pool water is not good enough,or got delli belli,Once they got enough medals says games is running smoothly or no complaints,and says this is the best game i ever had.......

  • Comment number 46.

    well said IloveBBC...apprecaite it.

  • Comment number 47.

    Now they are trying their best to prove India is incompetent or Indian fans are ill-behaved (because they were repeating “come-on India”).
    ___________

    But they are shouting it out during play which is not on.

  • Comment number 48.

    I see more racist blind Indian fandom is rife... again

  • Comment number 49.

    #43 you are completely ignoring the facts and trying to paint a bad story about England. This feels no different to the Pakistan head accusing England players of cheating by trying to fix matches to try and divert attention away from their three players who have been accused.

    I'm not going to bother reading anymore of your comments because you repeatedly fail to look objectively and in a constructive way at how the Games have been organised and the behaviour of some supporters there. I feel those of us trying to take a more balanced view could talk till we are blue in the face, and you would go on about bias, racism, and how everything in India is perfect, and how the westerner's are bad. If you are so incapable of seeing things from the other point of view, then we're all wasting our time. Think what you like, its clear some of you just aren't prepared to listen and there is obviously no point in repeating the points I have tried to make.

  • Comment number 50.

    I was watching some interviews with the ataheletes about how they feel about the Delhi CWG. All of them were basically saying this the best CWG so far....I dont know whats wrong with BBC journos as they are reporting negative news, possibly a jealousy shock? I understand games held in Britain in the past remained uninteresting. Interesting to watch 2012, hope they pull off.

  • Comment number 51.

    No wonder the BBC continues to lose relevance in all countries outside the West.

    "The gap between what he might have intended, and how his words are being interpreted, is growing."

    Does the blogger know what this WHITE South African swimmer intended? Why the inherent bias?

    Sonya.

  • Comment number 52.

    "Take the recent example of suspicion on pool water. Big chunks of airtime was reserved for this negative news. Subsequent news about pool water being absolutely safe received almost no airtime."

    Amidst the million-and-one differing opinions about media coverage of foreign sporting events, this is the one most universally true point. Negative events are selected for reporting; events contradictory to these are ignored or downplayed. In other words, it is not reporting in good faith: instead of reporting the story, they are trying to create the story.

    If media were reporting in good faith, they would have followed up their incessant pre-tournament predictions of terrible Beijing 2008 Olympics air quality... with reports explaining that they got it wrong. It was fine. This, of course, is stupid to expect because we're dealing with a media lacking any responsibility beyond that of publicity, fuelled by lingering cultural attitudes of superiority towards the rest of the world.

  • Comment number 53.

    Final comment from me...

    #50 again more blatant misrepresentation... the Manchester Commonwealth Games were far from being uninteresting and were a massive boost. The BBC are not just reporting negative stories... will you just read the damned articles for a change and stop continuously peddling your racist agenda! For Pete's sakes, reading the same drivel is getting beyond the pale and is invading all the Games blogs because some of you just want to say that the BBC and the English are racist, being negative all the time, etc.

  • Comment number 54.

    # 31 - The archers were on a shot clock, I think they had approximately 35 seconds in which to fire their three arrows, to have stopped and waited for conditions they considered to be more appropriate would have been to risk forfeiting the match if the officials had taken an unsympathetic stance and I do not think it is realistic, especially in a team competition to expect them to take such a risk.

  • Comment number 55.

    Blatantly in 2012 there are also going to be things going wrong in the London Olympics. And the media, including the BBC, will run endless reports on what's going wrong (which will be outweighed by reporting on the actual games).

    So... exactly what is happening here.

    No games runs perfectly (China's singing girl anyone?), and there are also reasons to complain. And the media will. It doesn't make them racist at all. Why didn't the pool water being okay get loads of media attention? Because it wasn't a story! It was reported reguarly, but took about 10 seconds each time because once it had been said that the water wasn't a problem, there was nothing more to say. When it could have been an issure, more time was spent on it as there was something to discuss.

    Fact is, a lot of stuff has gone wrong in these games (scoreboards, track damage, scales wrong, late finished to work etc). The crowd noise is a problem - the blame there is on the officials who need to make sure they know what's acceptable. In archery the competitors can't stop to ask this to happen as they're on a time limit. But if any of these things happen in 2012 the British media will be all over it. It has nothing to do with race. It has nothing to do with anything apart from the media likes a bad news story. It's been the same for decades.

    Spend four hours watching the BBC and there will probably be a good twenty minutes on problems. That's alot - but that equates to 1/12th of the broadcast. The bad news strories are coming out, but the focus is still on the actual games.

  • Comment number 56.

    #54: Thanks for the clarification!

  • Comment number 57.

    The organisers of this event left completion till the last minute therefore all the things had no time to be tried and tested therefore you have the minor blips that we keeping minging about.

    However only he and his organisation is responsible for this shambles,not the whole of India.

    The venues look tremendous and better than many I have seen here in the west.The nonsense of the messy toilets can be laid at the door of the monsoon rains and mud and they having not been cleaned before Joe Bloggs Jurno got his camera out.Thats nothing to do with Indians hygene.Its to do with Nature.But you can find worse than that on any council sink estate here in the UK.

    I dare you to photgraph a bathroom after the Thames may have flooded it or the Danube sludge in Hungary now.Take a pic and post that as normal and see us protesting.

    India is a poor country doing well as they can and the venues are super.
    They booed the fellow Kalmadi and they allow us to rip strips off them too without protest.Who can blame them for keeping away and out of sight after all the blame laid at their door.

    I haven't seen any low noises but what I have seen today is that when the Johnson girl was presented a gold and our anthem was played...........all the Indians,stood up in respect.They nudged their kids to stand up and be still.I was impressed with that.Thats sportmanship.

    And those saying dumb stuff like not to wear national colours etc.The home teams,Canada,Oz etc was cheered the most at the brilliant opening ceromony.Charlie boy has had cheers and flowers everywhere he has gone.I saw him visiting organic farms up north.He is mingling with the right spirit.

  • Comment number 58.


    Wow, more moaning from the English and the English media...

    If there was an event called the "Moaning Championships" at the Commonwealth Games, England would win gold,silver and bronze without sweat..

    I think they should combine all the moans about the terrorists threats,poor accomadtion,sparse crowds, Delhi Belly,rowdy Archery crowds, incompetent boxing judges into one BIG moan and save us all the trouble....

    We should start taking bets on what they are going to start moaning about next..

  • Comment number 59.

    Alison Williamson's quoted comments are spot on and I think FITA has been right to comment too.

    If there is a lot of noise a recurve archer can't hear their clicker and this can affect the release.

    The noise was clearly intended to put off the English archers.

  • Comment number 60.

    -England's Amy Oliver said the chanting of "Come on India" as she took aim, in the women's team recurve event, was distracting. "The crowd was not good. They were pretty loud - it was not good sportsmanship for archery, " she said.-

    I watched the mens event (won by England ) and it was the same story but it was truly a good show by the british men who kept there concentration in that close game -

    Theres a saying in India " Nach Na Jane so Angan Teda" which means if you cant dance blame it on the uneven floor . Amy you lost it because u were not focused . COME ON INDIA

  • Comment number 61.

    People who are saying more moaning of the english media... just look at the australian, canadian, new zealand media. Grant Hackett, the australian swimmer, says the games have been okay... but they can't be given another games because illness can't be such a major factor. He asks the question of how many times have friends and family who have been to India end up with some sort of illness? usually its nothing major.. but any illness for an athlete can be disastrous.
    Personally, I've been to India 4 times and have ended up ill in 3 of those occasions.

  • Comment number 62.

    In Reply to comment61

    One reason why world sporting events like the Commonwealth Games are held in different parts of the world is that sportsmen who are supposed to be alpha examples of fitness, strength and stamina of their respective cultures are exposed to very different and diverse climatic conditions across the planet, such rigorous conditions testing their true genetic agility, mental flexibility and physical mettle. What good is a cyclist who is at home in the Tour de France, but cannot tolerate cycling in Egypt in the month of June? Why do cricketers from India, used to flat pitches and hot weather, go and play in South Africa where the pitches are bouncier and the climate windier, or in the UK, where it can rain anytime and its cold and grey most of the time, and half the cricket matches get washed out anyway? Why would the American Davis Cup team go to Argentina and play against a hostile,intimidating,rowdy crowd on slow clay courts?
    They do it because that is precisely what this is all about – playing the sport in different conditions and adapting to those conditions to deliver your best everywhere.

    Well if you can’t handle it dear boy, there’s always mum back home with her water bottle – filled with hygienic, double-disinfected mineral water, fortified with extra vitamins and minerals. Go boy, go home.


  • Comment number 63.

    While crowds must be part of the whole experience spectators should respect the format of the competition they are watching. They certainly shouldn't be seeking to influence the outcome by deliberately putting off the opponents in sports where silence at certain moments is part of the sport.

    However, what really annoys me is the way that the BBC is failing to be British. An unlikely bronze was won in swimming the other day and the commentators were so busy being excited about the "nice" chap who won for Australia that they hadn't even noticed this! Utterly appalling. We expect our commentators to watch and to support our athletes and swimmers etcetera - not those of other countries.

  • Comment number 64.

    BluesBerry above at 3:56pm states: "It was assumed Prince Charles would substitute. Wave his Royal hand at the swarming natives. But the Indians wanted their own national president to open The Commonwealth Games."

    I expect it was "the political class" who wanted their president to open the Games. No doubt the swarming natives would have loved nothing more than to honour the Prince in this way. But that's politicians for you.

    BluesBerry adds: "The Queen said she was not available and Prince Philip wouldn't go without Her." The Queen is aged 84 and The Duke of Edinburgh is aged 89. It made perfect sense for their own son to go to the Games.

  • Comment number 65.

    Usual boring accusations of 'racism' by the 'Western' media (despite many of the same criticisms featuring in Indian media). Of course the media report things that go wrong - are you saying that if a bridge falls down in the London 2012 Olympics the Indian media won't report it? Or if the venues are mostly empty? I can guarantee that the British media will come down very hard if anything goes wrong in 2012 - and something probably will, despite the fact the construction is nearly finished.

    If you think this is 'racism', have a look at the reporting of the Winter Games in Canada this year. Please think a little bit before throwing around accusations of racism, or of attacking an entire nation because you don't like a few press reports. I disagree with many things I see in the Indian media but I don't attack all Indians because of them. If you want to be a global power, which you deserve to be, you will face increased scrutiny and criticism - it comes with the territory. The US and China attract huge amounts of scrutiny and criticism, and even Britain is still criticised based on events from centuries ago. Live with it and grow a thicker skin, or you're in for a stressful time ahead!

  • Comment number 66.

    GYMNASTS manage to perform in an arena with thousands of people cheering whilst upto 5 other competitors are performing on other apparatus at one time! If a GYMNAST can concentrate on performing a layout back somersault on a 10cm wide beam whilst the home crowd is cheering for their gymnast on the bars, then I cannot understand how other athletes can loose concentration so easily. Less moaning more focus!!

  • Comment number 67.

    I find very surprising, the criticism of the partisan crowd in Archery. Ever heard of home advantage!! Its even surprising coming from English people (having a football culture). Imagine a cup knockout match going into tie-breaker (at the kop end). Have you ever seen the kop behave in the same way for both the teams?

  • Comment number 68.

    For those of you who think commonwealth games are not as important as other major sports, here is a thought:

    "Winning the Commonwealth title counts for a lot. It puts you out there, it is recognisable.If Louise now wants to knock on someone's door and say, 'Please can you fund me?', they will ask her what she has achieved - and she can say she is the Commonwealth champion. They will take her seriously. "--By Denise Lewis Olympic heptathlon champion, Sydney 2000

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9077281.stm

  • Comment number 69.

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  • Comment number 70.

    How dare a third world country can organise an event of such magnitude?????

    71 countries competing in CWG out of which only England(no other home nations), Racist aussies (who can even lick pooh to win) & White South Africans(still ruling the Rainbow nation) are complaining because they can't stand India can organise such a big event.

    And the fact is most of the other participating countries are third world or poor just because of British Empire.

    When Beijing hosted the Olympics, England straight away raised their hands that they can't compete financially with China. So obviously most of the athletes and the world will compare London2012 to Delhi 2010 be it ceremony, accommodation or Stadiums so instead of raising their own game they are just interested in spreading rubbish.

    For India the biggest concern was security and they have dealt well. FULL STOP!!!

  • Comment number 71.

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  • Comment number 72.

    beebs please give my license fees back. Bias media at its best!!!!!!!

  • Comment number 73.

    And here comes the biggest racist on here. Why don't you bugger off, so we don't have to here your racist anti British anti western views. And yes the crowd has been disgraceful at certain points totally not on. Neither was it on when the Greeks made loads of noise ahead of the 200m in 2004, yet you think we are anti Indian, I have never seen a crowd behave like that for quiet sometime

  • Comment number 74.

    this is turning out to be quite funny.International media is trying way too hard to critcize India.
    recently i saw a media report by some International newspaper in which they were criticizing India because the drains got cloged in games village because some players/delegates threw used condomd in it.I mean is it India's fault that your players/delegates don't know that drains are not the place where you throw your used condoms?For god sake throw it in dust bins,because of these stupid players/delegates international media is defamig India.
    now i'll come on crowd sportsmanship and it's even funnier that English people are talking about crowd sportsmanship.I am a premier league fan and i know how english fans behave...recent example is Man Utd vs Everton where Sir Alex dropped Rooney because of crowd trouble ...it just goen on to say about behaviour of English crowd..there are various other examples.
    and i wonder if Indian players complained about cold weather whenever they played in colder countries like England?

  • Comment number 75.

    He dropped Rooney deservedly to sort his life out. But your avoiding the point. The crowd over here are quiet when play is happening, which is not what we are seeing in India. Stop trying to bash the English, I live here and I know what the crowd are like your nothing special, but hey we respect the players to keep quiet when we're ment to

    Oh and to the user who complained that the beeb is not British enough grow up, we like sport and respect other nations and will celebrate them as well.

  • Comment number 76.

    He dropped Rooney deservedly to sort his life out. But your avoiding the point. The crowd over here are quiet when play is happening, which is not what we are seeing in India. Stop trying to bash the English, I live here and I know what the crowd are like your nothing special, but hey we respect the players to keep quiet when we're ment to
    ------------------------------------------------------
    i won't debate about it but you should atleast for once check internet why SAF dropped rooney.:)
    As far as Indian crowd is concerned,Indian crowd was always noisy and will always be in the future.That's the way we are you love it or hate it.
    and yeah i am not trying to bash English, It's you people and your media who's constantly bashing India.

  • Comment number 77.

    I don't think it was noise in general at the archery. It was the fact that the crowd were quiet during the Indian competitor's turn, then quite blatently making a distracting noise during the English competitor's turn.

  • Comment number 78.

    I cant believe the racist BBC is at it yet again, last night biased towards England and racist against Scotland, Wales and NI during the football...today racist against India for pointing out there have been problems with the games...how dare they...i'm off to get my pitchfork and torch and burn the BBC down...sorry am i being sarcastic enough?

    Jeez grow up people, lifes too short to get worked up about an article on a website!:)

  • Comment number 79.

    I know fans here are so well behaved!!! Anyone seen Andy Murray about to loose in Wimbeldon.

  • Comment number 80.

    It is sad to see how the media, especially English and Australian media, has been reporting these games. Reporters in Britain, New Zealand, Australia have been shockingly insensitive and negative in their reporting of the CWG from the word go. They have gleefully reported the various ‘mishaps’ and ‘glitches’ but have not bothered to correct themselves or put out follow-up reports about the same. ‘Delhi Belly’ has become a new synonym for disaster among these dailies. Perhaps the reporters would do better to inquire as to what it really means. The term is used to indicate a bad stomach caused by consumption of spicy food, the kind that westerners are unaccustomed to. Perhaps the athletes should have opted to play it safe and stick to their bland fish and chips and not experimented too much. News items continue to blame the ‘unsafe’ swimming pools despite safety clearances granted when inquiries were conducted. Has anybody bothered to ask why Asian and African athletes have not shown these symptoms? It is almost funny how your paper has yet to get over the ‘collapsed bridge’ syndrome. Are you telling me there has never been any such mishap in any of your countries before an important event? And just for the record, 27 people were injured and not killed.
    As for the poverty rider in any ‘positive’ story regarding the Games, I have only this much to say – The West may have developed a sudden affliction for slum dwellers post-Slumdog Millionaire, but the omnipresent slums are not a (desired) way of life for citizens of Delhi. If in an effort to ‘beautify’ the city before the Games, the government has cleared up vast slums and other illegally inhabited areas and relocated its people, I don’t see the cause for complaint. Beggars ousted from the city are another pet cause of foreign journalists. The same tourists who earlier complained of the beggar menace on Delhi roads now questioning the government’s move to tackle the same. If at all, in run up to the games, any injustice has been caused to a section of the society, I can assure all those mighty concerned people, that the Indian courts are perfectly capable of remedying that. (I cannot say the same for similarly situated people in China before the Olympics, whose cause the Western journalists didn’t dare take up to a great degree).
    The Games have done a lot for India and the developing countries as a whole. It may not have all been perfect, but let us stop acting like it has been a disaster when that is clearly not the case. It’s better to enrich oneself with the new experiences that the country has to offer rather than cry hoarse about what was seemingly absent and missing

  • Comment number 81.

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  • Comment number 82.

    So its okay for you, presumably an Indian, to be racist towards English people, and others, but if someone from England even questions something about the Games, we are racist and aren't allowed to say anything? Being that India is the largest democracy in the world, perhaps you are aware that under a democracy, you are allowed to QUESTION things. You have shown a complete inability to do anything other than say how perfect you are, and not listen one iota to anything else being said. Your racist rant is beyond boring, as well as deeply offensive.

  • Comment number 83.

    surreybloke, all along we have been stating that no one is perfect! just that, BBC is impartial in the way it has reported this game

  • Comment number 84.

    I totally agree with path and from delhi, its quite frustrating to read only negative comments about the commonwealth games from day one. I strongly believe India is doing a terrific job hosting such a big event, and also london should learn from the shortcomings of the arrangements in Delhi as its not far they'll be under the spolight and surely it ll only be support from the english media.
    Also complaints from an english athelete about the noisy indian crowd is just pathetic. She probably should'v known more about the concept of home crowd you weren't playing golf there or you weren' at the centre court where you expected the home crowd to go all quite when the oppositions are playing,well think about the football games u wont see a home supporter goin all quite for the oppositions to score. It all depends on which sport you playin where you playing and how good you are and you wont make an excuse about the noisy crowd for losing. And also rules are made for the players and not for the crowd, they are allowed to react and behave the way they want it.

  • Comment number 85.

    Oh, lordy, lordy, what a kerfuffle.

    Unfortunately I have just subjected myself to the task of reading all the posts on this thread. I seem to have found a group of thin skinned and, in some cases, bigoted zealots. Ticketing is something upon which I am incompetent to comment as I have insufficient information on which to base an opinion.

    Crowd noise is another matter. Just as athletes are expected to abide by the rules, surely so are spectators. No one at any time has suggested that spectators should not make as big a racket as they like in support of an individual or team during an event. There are, however, times when spectators are expected (read 'required') to respect the competitors and allow them a few seconds of silence. Such behaviour has two ramifications: firstly it allows those in a static stance (swimmers on the blocks, athletes on the starting line, archers about to draw their bow, tennis players about to serve, divers balanced precariously prior to plunging) to concentrate. Secondly - and probably most importantly - it gives the athlete a chance of hearing signals generated by officials.

    Finally (I bet you're glad) who said it was Indian residents making the inappropriate noise? Maybe residents of India do have a penchant for making lots of noise at sporting events just as do the English, Australian, Canadian, Scottish ...

    Just as does the timing gear used in many sports it's a matter of when not how.

  • Comment number 86.

    I love the way the media jump on the monkey bandwagon. Monkeys make noises and jump around. Did he say Indians were monkeys erm NO.

    These games have been a shambles but what do you expect from a third world nation, the world cup in Brazil will be the same.

    Score boards in the weightlifting WRONG, double standards when DQ people, its just a joke.

    You dont expect sportmanship from nations like Indian so I think the athletes should have expected it, its just like the Vuvuzelas in SA ruined the WC.

    Dont have world events if the countries cant produce.

  • Comment number 87.

    Talking about sportsmanship, all of us saw the booing of the German national anthem during a 2nd round match in the World Cup. Can somebody tell me the nationality of the crowd that did the booing? Compare that to the good round of applause we gave to the Pakistan contingent during the opening ceremony.

  • Comment number 88.

    "71 countries competing in CWG out of which only England(no other home nations), Racist aussies (who can even lick p*** to win) & White South Africans(still ruling the Rainbow nation) are complaining because they can't stand India can organise such a big event."

    who's the racist eh? The only racist comments on here are from indians. you are merely showing yourself to be a complete fool of the highest order. Your clear lack of knowledge regarding the outside world reinforces the general belief that indian people (and by extension india itself) has not matured as a country and is not ready to join the worldwide community - a shame really because it has a lot to offer the world but you will not be taken seriously when you jump and down screaming;
    a) racism everytime india comes in for crticism
    b) it's a western conspiracy everytime india comes in for crticism
    c) its a western media conspiracy everytime india comes in for crticism
    d) it's western jealousy everytime india comes in for crticism
    e) etc.
    tone down your paranoia and hyper-sensitivity. you're not doing yourself any favours. i have been to India several times and know not all Indians are like you and some of your fellow posters. i would guess that a large proportion of people on this blog haven't travelled there and if you are typical of 'Modern India'is it any wonder that people react negatively to your childish and tiresome xenophobia?

  • Comment number 89.

    # 86 x_is_for_xray

    "These games have been a shambles but what do you expect from a third world nation, the world cup in Brazil will be the same."

    Perhaps 'x is for xenophobia'?

  • Comment number 90.

    Hello everyone

    enough is enough. there is no need to give any explanation to these british athlets or any one from western countries MOANING about every thing.
    Hello ' - .x_is_for_xray'what do you know about India?? Talking about 3rd world countries... do you think britian is rich and u people are rich since the origin of country. You been fed on the benefits by your government. Where do you think british government got all the money... Ruling India and all other countries and getting all the resources from these countries. Dont even forget that! India was and is a very wealthy country and it will grow up and at some point in near future you will realise that. Didnt you hear the stories about sterling and its value. Its going to be lees that rupee value in near future.So stop talking about third world countries. the money from these countries mad you rich.
    Regarding the poor and poverty... havent you seen the junky places in UK. If the government stop giving benefits to all these people they will be on roads in few days!atleast we dont have the crime child pregnancies and other child crime which is shame to mention here in India. Better to have poverty than these sort of crimes.
    India is doing a great job in organisisng these games. Stop moaning!

  • Comment number 91.

    Time to take a chill pill - all around :-). To all Indians out there - no need to be defensive (or as some call it "thin skinned"), and no need to critcize BBC! Look, the CWG OC did sanction negative coverage by their extraordinary incompetence in the lead up to the games. So now the press is Looking for things that are not upto scratch - and the way its going - the OC is providing them real fodder everyday (Must say Dr. Bhanot's answer to the "monkeygate" question was out of this world; even as an Indian I could not stop laughing!! -By the way whats his doctorate in?). The BBC is an independent news organization and it is their right to tell whatever the reporters feel people should know - it is their prerorogative - thats what free press (and indeed freedom of expression) is all about. You take in to info and match it with what you see, and you make up your own mind - and, You don't like it, you don't have to read it.
    To all who have been totally taken in by the "blunders" and have pretty much declared unilaterally the games the "worst ever", the games are going on, pretty much as they should; barring some English and Australian athletes who came down with gastrocolic condition (the "delhi belly"- the only justification for the unfortunate nomenclature being that they started showing symptoms in Delhi), which may not have anything to do with Delhi food or the "toxic" swimming pool, the games have pretty much progressed normally for the most part - and the major concern of all nations, security, has not been an issue (thankfully - hope I have not spoken too soon). I doubt if in a trully democratic society, perfection in anything is ever achievable. I mean, look at the US-UK decision to go to Iraq (just as an example).
    These are just games, enjoy them - to those who say games should never be awarded to developing countries - I think thats just premature thinking. The English archers just got a silver, instead of a gold, hey -no body died (like in Vancouver winter olympics - in a developed country!).
    So all around - time to take a chill pill people, and perhaps just laugh off the next stray dog in the JLNS, or Dr. Bhanot's answers (constant source of humor!), or BBC's perceived negative bias.

  • Comment number 92.

    Another Moaning article!!!
    Typical example of selective journalism on part of BBC...

  • Comment number 93.

    Have the athletes whose events have gotten over started leaving the games village to their homes or are they still hanging in and around Delhi????????

  • Comment number 94.

    I cannot understand why you guys had to wait till the eve of the games to splash all the photos depicting the negative side of a country. Am sure the photojournalists will have ample time to stay in India and take those award winning photos of India's poverty and underbelly. For all we know your journals might just turn out to be an inspiration for Danny Boyel's next Oscar-winning movie.

  • Comment number 95.

    "Didnt you hear the stories about sterling and its value. Its going to be lees that rupee value in near future."

    at last.......an Indian poster with a sense of humour.

  • Comment number 96.

    Bluesberry - you seem to be unaware that these are the Commonwealth Games and whether you like it or not the Queen of England is Head of the Commonwealth and therefore is entitiled to 'Open' the Games if she so desires. As she was unavailable this time then she presumably delegated the person to take her place.
    Of course if India is unhappy with all of this then the logical approach would be for India to withdraw from the Commonwealth (The Australians are threatening to do it every year, and become a Republic) but then of course Inida would lose all those billions of pounds in aid that it gets from Britain year after year. People talk of the costs of these Games to India, forgetting that Britain has actually paid for them through the incredible amount of money that it 'gifts' annually to India.

  • Comment number 97.

    #96

    "...but then of course Inida would lose all those billions of pounds in aid that it gets from Britain year after year. People talk of the costs of these Games to India, forgetting that Britain has actually paid for them through the incredible amount of money that it 'gifts' annually to India. "

    Could you please enlighten us with some actual numbers? If it not too much of a bother, can you provide some links about these 'billions of pounds'?

  • Comment number 98.

    James Autar wrote: but then of course Inida would lose all those billions of pounds in aid that it gets from Britain year after year. People talk of the costs of these Games to India, forgetting that Britain has actually paid for them through the incredible amount of money that it 'gifts' annually to India.

    Give us a break!!!!! Please brush up your history about Britain and India dating back to 13th century till the year India got her Independence. Am sure once you have enlightened yourself you will have much more respect when addressing countries like India.

  • Comment number 99.

    loser always complain and winner never complain.anastasia of aus win her women single against sania of India,in that match crowd is so loud but she win bocz is professional......

    in Melbourne common wealth games, some country stay in college hostel and nobody complains.but in Delhi we provide expensive,beautiful rooms and they complaint bcoz some countries have habit of complaining.

    no country provide this type of facility in any games even in any Olympic games.......we provide expensive room,24hrs food facility,every day more than 6 different cuisine,world class ground,stadium,world class common wealth game village,high security etc...... i bet no country provide this type of facility in any games......


    (sorry, if anybody hurts)

  • Comment number 100.

    'but then of course Inida would lose all those billions of pounds in aid that it gets from Britain year after year'

    James Autar- which era are you living in?? Which billions of pounds you are talking about? You dont have enough money to clear the Debts of UK, for the MP s scams (what a shame and you talk about corruption in India) and you are talking about giving away the money. Please provide some evidence and figures!

    'at last.......an Indian poster with a sense of humour'- were you aware the euro and pound conversion rate when euro was introduced and what it is now?? So wait and see and u will see the humour in my post!

 

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