What makes a child abuser?
A nursery worker and two others have admitted a string of child sex offences.
One, Vanessa George took photos of herself assaulting children at the nursery in Plymouth where she worked.
She was trying to win the affections of one of her co defendants and wanted to impress him with her depravity.
What makes someone do this? What turns a much loved nursery worker and mum of two into a depraved child abuser? How does it happen and can such offenders ever be rehabilitated? We'll try to get some answers on the phone in with Nicky at 9.
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morning the problem we have in this country and great britain is the number of paedophiles that are rife in society is it a coincidence that they are mostly white people commiting this crime yet nothing is said do we have a problem in the white community with regards to child abuse instead its being brushed under the carpet if we are ever to eradicate this we need to deal with the issues
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we often hear discussions on five live with regards to other other communities haveing problems with crimes such as knife and gun crime being a problem in the black community the lack of black fathers i heard victoria derbyshire put that question to dizee rascal when he was on her show and why is that the same we hearof the muslim community with regards to terrorism and extremism being linked to the muslim community all these have been discussed in great length and debated on five live but never has there been a discussion on five live about the number of white paedophiles in this country and great britain and is there a problem in the white community why is this being brushed under the carpet?
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jimmy-dean, Brushed under the carpet? - it's on every front news papers front page and news bulletin in the country. If that's brushing it under the carpet then you and I have very differing views.
You really do come out with some tosh.
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zelda in that case could you please tell me which newspapers or media outlet in this country is asking the question or printed in any newspaper the question is there a issue in the white community with regards to paedophiles in england and great britain and how do we tackle it cos it never has its been brushed under the carpet there have been countless discussions on black people and muslim and asian people and the problems in those communities but never in the white community when it comes to paedophilles
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There was an interesting piece on drive yesterday. It seems that many people fantasize about sexual activity with children but it used to stay in their minds. Modern technology enables them to find other like-minded people and put their fantasies into action. It also enables the grooming of children at a distance.
I once heard a statistic that about 10% of the population have sexual feelings for children but most do not act on these feelings. If this is true, this isn't a small problem affecting a tiny perverted minority. It is a massive problem which we have to face up to, find out what is actually happening,and find effective ways of managing.
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Jimmy-dean - you can't link every topic to the 'oppressed' minority groups. That would be a dangerous diversion form the real problem which is that there are sick and evil individiuals in our society. Their colour is irrelevent.
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jimmy - I really think you need to realsie that paedophiles, rapists, and abusers come in all colours, shapes and sizes. Stop turning all isssues into race issues.
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jimmy-dean-2009 you are a racist.
Two words for you - Victoria Climbie.
The terrorist threat is coming from the muslim community and knife and gun crime is worst in the black community. Why do we have/need Operation Trident?
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What makes people do horrible things? Don't know, now can we move on to something that is possible to debate?
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i. moore has beaten me to it.
One can speculate all you like but no-one has the answer(s) except, of course, jimmy-dean.
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Yes Sarnia - and it will be all the 'white mans' fault.
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i.moore posted
"What makes people do horrible things? Don't know, now can we move on to something that is possible to debate?"
It's all very Mrs Merton " Let's have a heated debate".
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liontwins wrote:
Jimmy-dean - you can't link every topic to the 'oppressed' minority groups. That would be a dangerous diversion form the real problem which is that there are sick and evil individiuals in our society. Their colour is irrelevent.
Hear hear, It does make one wonder where colour comes into it! that been said, it's not neoteric......there will always be people like the aforementioned working with children. No matter how stringent the methods are to stop the abusers. Just because a person has no record of abusing children it does not mean that he/she is not an abuser.
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good grief its funny how many people both in the media and genaral society are quick to jump on the bandwagon and link certain crimes to the black and muslim community and wanting to debate it but when the boot is on the other foot there more than happy to apply a diffrent set of standards what hypocrisy now any right minded person knows crimes of every nature from gun and knife crime its not just black people to terrorism timothy mcveigh did the oklahoma bombing nobody mentioned his religion did they are commited by all communities and backgrounds the world over such is life sadly but why is it we are happy to discuss certain members of the communities from black,asian and muslim folk yet where quick to dismiss or debate the issue of white pedophiles what is there to hide
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Black people can be paedophiles, Asian people can be paedophiles, White people can be paedophiles.
It's not exclusively a white problem jimmy. Do grow up.
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How can you stop paedophiles disguising themselves as schools?
I think 'Brass eye' had the final word on this case.
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Morning
I am due to go back to work and I would love to leave my kids with my colleague with whom I am job sharing but I can't as I won't get working tax credit and we could get in trouble because of looking after each others kids.
I think it is the responsibiliy of the nurseries to make sure that the children are never left on their own with the nursery nurses. They need to have glassed windows were the kids get changed so other members of staff can monitor what is happening behind these doors.
Linda
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So much for the CDB checks and ZaNuLabrrs registers.
Anothercase of abuse gets through the system!
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Regarding screening. It strikes me that the more time and resource is wasted screening and clearing the 99.9 % of people who are perfectly above board, makes it much more likely for the 0.1% to slip through the net as a lot less time & resource is devoted to them (and they are most likely to have taken steps to hide their tendencies) . The same is true at airports where certainly in the UK those in least likely demographic group for terrorist tendencies are regularly frisked by those in the most likely demographic group to be terrorists.
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2nd Earl of Itterby and Oole (The Earl Regrets the passing of the Boreds) wrote:
So much for the CDB checks and ZaNuLabrrs registers.
Anothercase of abuse gets through the system!
If one is not known to be a peadophile and no record of such exists.....but is a "closest peadophile." What can One do?
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The reason of child abuse lies in psihological depths of human nature, depravity, spoilty of course. It has nothing to do with the circamstances such as lack of money, that for example may lead a man to theft or robbery or froad , but not to sexual abuse. That`s why it`s dangerous to ease punishment for an abusers. Easy punishment could lead a person prone to such kind of crime to activity.The punishment must be severe
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First get it into proportion. Child abusers are a very small proportion of the population.
Next, investigate the role of the corporate childrens charities in creating the paranoia. After all, they are the ones to benefit from the hype and hysteria.
We have a general problem with the size and role of the corporate charities in the UK. They are now run by business minded corporate executives who will earn mega-bonuses for expanding their 'business'. They will recieve huge amounts of government '3rd sector' funding and in return provide 'input' to Government policy formation. It is in their interests to push their own 'worst case' agenda whether it is immigration, housing, health or in this case children.
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