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George Edmonds | 08:56 UK time, Wednesday, 28 October 2009

A change of plan this morning on the phone-in. After 9 now, do you want a President Blair?

Gordon Brown will actively lobby for Tony Blair to be named the first president of the European Council.

Read more on BBC News: No 10 to lobby for Blair EU job

Before now, Downing Street had denied reports it was going to campaign to get Mr Blair the job. The Tories and Lib Dems are adamant Mr Blair should not get the job, but from the man himself, nothing. What do you think?

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And you can follow the debate live between 9 and 10 with 5 live Now, which pulls together you contributions in one page. Find out more about 5 live Now.

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  • 1. At 09:06am on 28 Oct 2009, icemaiden26252 wrote:

    The Euro mugs should know that behind the Bambi smile this man is a snake. A liar who's only place in Europe should be the Hague for war crimes. This is the man who laid the foundations for the third world country we now live in. Blair for President - yes when hell freezes.

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  • 2. At 09:11am on 28 Oct 2009, carrie wrote:

    Caught me out there!!

    But this is another piece that as Liam Fox pointed out, hasn't got any legs yet as the legislation to appoint anyone at all is not yet in place.

    This is like the Speaker vote. Labour getting one over on the Tories and Liberals by pushing for someone who they knew would rankle every single day the House is sitting. President Blair? Read ditto.

    Just a political phone in on what ifs, and what mays. Fact is, the British people won't get a say about it because the government reneged on their manifesto promise to have a referendum. So why ask us? We are irrelevant.

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  • 3. At 09:13am on 28 Oct 2009, carrie wrote:

    Forgot to add that I expect you have left St. John Mann to his biggest fan, Ms Derbyshire, to cover the leak of the expenses inquiry.

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  • 4. At 09:23am on 28 Oct 2009, Sarnia wrote:

    I cannot believe how naive some of (hand-picked?) callers are! Ranting at Roger Gale for suggesting that IF the British people were allowed a referendum on the Constitution/Treaty as promised by Blair in the Labour manifesto it would be voted down.

    Numerous polls have shown that this would be the case and as Roger Gale pointed out the position of President is not actually in place because the Treaty is not yet in place.

    And - all those people who think it would be good for Britian having Blair as president because he'e be representing Britain's interests - think again.

    He's only interested in what is good for Tony Blair.

    Everyone knows that Blair stepped down mid-way through his third term; handed the baton over to Brown as the price for being a shoo-in for the role of President (and avoiding a pesky referendum which would prevent the role being created).

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  • 5. At 09:31am on 28 Oct 2009, Sarnia wrote:

    Come on Nicky - you need to challenge/educate some of your callers and tell them that the idea of a referendum isn't some sort of evil Tory plot (as a few of them are espousing) BUT was part of New Labour's manifesto in the last election.

    It really annoys me that simple facts like this are not pointed out.

    I know it's probably an editorial decision/slant/bias etc but it is disingenous at best ...

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  • 6. At 10:26am on 28 Oct 2009, RobbieFiveFingers wrote:

    So Blair is not only content in wrecking the UK he now wants to ruin europe.

    I despair!

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  • 7. At 11:01am on 28 Oct 2009, RedRedRobin wrote:

    "This is like the Speaker vote. Labour getting one over on the Tories and Liberals by pushing for someone who they knew would rankle every single day the House is sitting. President Blair? Read ditto."

    I'm not sure about that, Blair probably rankles Labour members (if not the very top of the party) more than the Torys.

    Having a figure so unpopular with the left at the head of Europe would probably do wonders for spreading the EUsceptic cause.

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  • 8. At 11:22am on 28 Oct 2009, Bee_A_Bee wrote:

    Totally agree with your point, Sarnia, that some of the callers need to be challenged/educated. It's infuriating that we don't seem to have any presenters on 5live that perform this role.

    Peter Allen does his best, granted, I'd like to see someone with teeth in Adrian's 'jiggle around'. Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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  • 9. At 12:14pm on 28 Oct 2009, Darien Robert Cavanaugh wrote:

    After the Blair - and Brown debacle...one would rather have President Griffin!

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  • 10. At 12:15pm on 28 Oct 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    Bliar seems the ideal candidate for president of Europe - he'll fit right in with the other unelected, unaccountables in Brussels, with their greed-fuelled gravy train and unsigned-off accounts, whose idea of democracy is to deny it full stop or, if allowing a vote and getting the answer they doon't want, sending the issue to the vote again until they do get the answer they want.

    It wasn't just the Czechs we could rely on to scupper this farce - the Finish autonomous state of Aland could've held it up and were, right up until the point when Brussels decreed without so much as a by-your-leave that the views of these islanders could be discounted, regardless of domestic constituional arrangements.

    THAT'S the EU we never voted for in 1975 and THAT'S the EU we're being sold out to. Sieg heil.

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  • 11. At 1:48pm on 28 Oct 2009, JohnClement wrote:

    Honesty and integrity are essential for this job, which disqualifies Blair on both grounds. Europe would just turn into one big corrupt gravy train, just like Britain under New Labour. Democratic assemblies would be made considerably less accountable just like local councils and the House of Commons. It would also mean that the Muslim world would feel that all of Europe is against them, instead of just Britain & America. Blair would also destroy european cultural values by encouraging any Americanisation which is worth a few $ in his pocket.

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  • 12. At 1:55pm on 28 Oct 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    "It would also mean that the Muslim world would feel that all of Europe is against them"

    Why? Most of us are of the view, when confronted with the plethora of sensationalist headlines, that New Labour have been falling over themselves to bend over backwards to accommodate demands from that community here and to allow them to get on with whatever they want to do (think of the police backing away from demonstrators getting frisky but steaming in to EDL and anti-Griffin/QT protesters). It won't be long before they give Choudary his wish and allow full sharia here.

    Now see Bliar allowing that to be writ large all over Europe. I predict a riot...

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  • 13. At 10:48pm on 28 Oct 2009, Nick Vinehill wrote:

    The real legacy of Tony Blair was that he was a Tory Prime Minister and the Labour leader at the same time. This was why the 'political establishment' arranged his 'removal' from office and replacement before the credit crunch and bank bail outs kicked in so that impressionable callers (who are always put on air on phone-in programmes so the likes of Campbell and Derbyshire have an easy time) think its all about personalities.

    All this juvenile nonsense over who's gonna be the President of the EU is really the establishment admitting that British capitalism is so weak it has no alternative to adherring to the Treaties provisions whether there's a referendum or not. Therefore it suits the establishment via obedient news outlets like BBC's 5 Live to make it a big personality issue citing the likes of Tory Blair as a potential President rather than stimulating a discussion about what the Treaties about or what he's being President of. yet alone the post being completely unelected anyway!

    This EU Treaty has nothing to do with establishing a united democratic Europe. It's all about imposing neoliberal free market values on the whole of Europe albeit it was those same values that created low growth hence massive borrowing and recession! This is why despite all their bluster, Blair would be ideal for the role. All this nonsense about whether PM Cameron could work with President Blair is waffle. Blair's more right wing than Cameron!





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  • 14. At 01:10am on 29 Oct 2009, Sarnia wrote:

    // so that impressionable callers (who are always put on air on phone-in programmes so the likes of Campbell and Derbyshire have an easy time) //

    Agree with you on that point.

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  • 15. At 10:53am on 29 Oct 2009, Cheapjack wrote:

    I think it's a good idea. If the conservatives get in, we will go back to the middle ages, wealth-distribution wise. Blair could provide a counter point and some sanity.

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  • 16. At 1:11pm on 29 Oct 2009, Tempus Fugit wrote:

    Comedy gold!!

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