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The pic that caused a storm

Richard Jackson | 06:41 UK time, Friday, 4 September 2009

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(Image credit: AP Photo/Glamour/Walter Chin)

On Breakfast on Friday we're talking to model Lizzie Miller after this pic caused controversy because it showed her with a small roll of tummy fat. Shelagh's been chatting to her about the fuss.

You can also talk to Lizzie on Victoria's programme - she'll be taking your calls.

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  • 1. At 10:02am on 04 Sep 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Personally, and within reason of course, I'm not too concerned about that part of a womans anatomy. The other more interesting bits are covered ;-)

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  • 2. At 10:12am on 04 Sep 2009, VicolaW wrote:

    I think she's a far sight better looking than the stick thin, airbrished twiglets we usually see paraded through magazines. With psychological issues around weight and eating disorders on the rise, it's about time we started seeing ordinary women with lumps, bumps and curves shown as role models rather than computer generated figures that the normal girl can never in a million years hope to achieve.

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  • 3. At 11:15am on 04 Sep 2009, fivefan45 wrote:

    This is a lovely picture of a beautiful woman. I'm sure clothes look good on her too. In fact the anorexic looking supermodels don't look so good, in my opinion and as others have said, give young girls a false impression of what it means to be beautiful.

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  • 4. At 1:02pm on 04 Sep 2009, louisescats wrote:

    A very attractive woman with a bit of a roll of fat!!! who cares..... this is prob ure average looking womans figure anyway....makes people like me feel normal...surely that was the aim?

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  • 5. At 1:03pm on 04 Sep 2009, haleylouise29 wrote:

    she looks great and i would like to see more plus size models!! the stick thin ones actually dissaswade me from buying the product they are advertising along with them looking ill. haley lakenheath suffolk.

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  • 6. At 1:05pm on 04 Sep 2009, th_girl92 wrote:

    At last..... natural beauty! I think models AND designers should take a leaf out of her book to be honest, look at how much healthier she looks!..I'm a size 12 and I'm not as lean as her but doesn't make me feel half as bad about my stretchmarks or my tummy rolls .... :) Good on her is yu ask me :)

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  • 7. At 1:31pm on 04 Sep 2009, bellemagenta wrote:

    I think she looks amazing! the shot is tasteful and shows the true female form. Although some models are naturally thin airbrushing still remains within the industry. This picture represents more of the population than the images we see in fashion magazines.

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  • 8. At 1:44pm on 04 Sep 2009, Sil665Hants wrote:

    Ladies, here is a little secret, if you ask most men they actually prefer a fuller rounder figure. Personally I find stick thin 'size zero' women a turn off. As a male I find the photo lovely, as a photographer myself, I have to say that the photo is great. It has captured Lizzies natural charm and the impression you get from the photo is that Lizzie is a charming fun loving person. It is a very flattering photo and I am sure Walter Chin is rightfully proud of the image he has captured. I would go further to say that there should be a ban on air brushing in advertising, it creates an illusion of a perfect world and gives young women impossible examples to try and follow. Lets be honest about life, about ourselves, celebrate our imperfections and acknowledge that this is what makes us all unique and wonderful.

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  • 9. At 2:16pm on 04 Sep 2009, LSm1th wrote:

    I agree that girls shouldn't be stick thin or air brushed to be models. I can't stand how they advertise make up and spot creams on girls with perfect faces but...I don't think that her stomach is attractive at all!
    She has a beautiful face but thats it really. I think modelling is a profession. You go into it to be a human advert not an image for the world to aim to be like! People take it all too seriously.
    Fair play to her for trying to make a difference in the superficial world of fashion but it wont work....this so called Perfection sells!!

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  • 10. At 2:33pm on 04 Sep 2009, fatmanbat45 wrote:

    Hi,
    This is my first blog on R5 and it is due to the photo on the R5 website ( FEMALE MODEL "photo") which i came across by chance.( I was looking for info on the PM's speech about Afghanistan).
    My comments are thus :
    The picture is a complete simulation through media manipulation.
    What we have is a woman who is shot to look like she is caught in a "natural" pose i.e. naked. But she is not natural.SHE is the latest object of capitalist exploitation(A little bit of fat to look more real).Look closer people and you will see.
    wendymann is right.
    Why should our brave serviceman fight for a cause in Afghanistan when we in the West use our own women for profit and then send boys to kill the 'Other' so that their country is re-modelled and re-placed so women can have rights ?! Rights to be a commodity ?
    NO

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  • 11. At 2:39pm on 04 Sep 2009, RhionnaJoy wrote:

    Wow, a real woman! It's really refreshing to see especially as a young mum you feel the pressure to lose weight quickly if there were more ad's with "real" women in I think people would feel far more confident in themselves instead of keep putting themselves down.
    Lizzie, you look fantastic!

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  • 12. At 2:58pm on 04 Sep 2009, LSm1th wrote:

    Good point of view fatmanbat45.
    I like it!!!

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  • 13. At 3:03pm on 04 Sep 2009, fatmanbat45 wrote:

    Have you all gone mad !
    The photograph is a SIMULATION.
    It is not real. It is not a picture of YOU.
    It is not a real woman.It is a fabrication of reality.
    The person who shot the photograph is an accomplice in the PERFECT CRIME.
    Are you really that naive!?
    She is not a REAL WOMAN.
    You are !

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  • 14. At 3:15pm on 04 Sep 2009, furryraoul wrote:

    Fatmanbat45. You have issues which i dont think relate to this picture.
    For what its worth, i think she looks great, but her little belly roll doesnt seem to fit in with the rest of her body which seems quite slim !

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  • 15. At 3:19pm on 04 Sep 2009, calmandhope wrote:

    I personally think she looks great. Much rather see more pictures like this than any of the "supermodels" who just look like freaky sticks that have managed to hobble around somehow.

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  • 16. At 3:21pm on 04 Sep 2009, sparkzter wrote:

    fatmanbat45 what on earth are you babbling about! Sure the picture is posed even an idiot can see that. That's all it is though. It's not a part of an evil capitalist plot to take over the world. If anything it's probably just a lame attempt to get her or the photographer more publicity. Which has worked it seems.

    As for natural photos, even many seemingly natural photos may come from a set of hundreds. The editor may pick the one which fits in with the story or whatever they're trying to sell. That in a sense is also fabricated. It may portrait a fleeting image that can never be reproduced again.

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  • 17. At 3:27pm on 04 Sep 2009, furryraoul wrote:

    Sparktzer. Dead right, everyone knows the famous picture of Bobby Moore held aloft with the world cup, but if you see the film footage he was up there for about 2 seconds, the photographer just got lucky. The camera never lies, well maybe not, but it can certainly tell a very good story.

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  • 18. At 4:04pm on 04 Sep 2009, Anderson'sDance wrote:

    This lady is hot! What's her number?

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  • 19. At 4:13pm on 04 Sep 2009, LSm1th wrote:

    May be ignorant but would not be happy if i had a belly like that!!!

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  • 20. At 4:26pm on 04 Sep 2009, waydark wrote:

    A small roll of tummy fat cause a storm in the states!!!!!!!!!!! Shocking cos i'm so used to seeing Americans with five giant tyres of tummy fat hanging all over the show!! I think Lizzie Miller looks stunning!! and it's nice to see a non air brushed picture.

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  • 21. At 5:12pm on 04 Sep 2009, gemma-83 wrote:

    I think she looks totally fab and who's to say, that tiny little roll isn't a result from having children? My child is 6 and i still have a little belly from it. She looks completely avarage and we need to see more women with curves, lumps and bumps on the runway!

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  • 22. At 5:40pm on 04 Sep 2009, fatmanbat45 wrote:

    This comment has been referred to the moderators. Explain.

  • 23. At 6:13pm on 04 Sep 2009, ThoughtFullYank wrote:

    Models are supposed to be the ideal. That’s their job. While eating disorders can be problems, the larger problem (pun intended) is the growing numbers of overweight and obese people. People need to just move on if they can’t obtain a model’s physique. I can’t play professional football, so what, I’m doing OK. Should we somehow try to lower the standards of our athletes so less children’s dreams are crushed when they don’t make a professional team? Lizzie Miller is not a bad looking woman, but that roll of fat isn’t helping her.

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  • 24. At 6:49pm on 04 Sep 2009, fatmanbat45 wrote:

    Hello Hello Hello
    reality calling !
    The photograph is not real.Lizzie Miller does not exist in this picture.She is not in the picture.The picture is a construct of 'Lizzie Miller'. it is a simulacra of Lizzie Miller.
    There is no 'roll of fat'.There is no 'woman' in this picture.
    It is a conspicuously artificial design for the consumption of the classless masses.
    Enjoy !

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  • 25. At 8:27pm on 04 Sep 2009, leohawk wrote:

    At last, a normal looking person with an normal extra wobbly bit. So refreshing to see. She is a beautiful woman, put the photoshop away.

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  • 26. At 11:49pm on 04 Sep 2009, davederrick wrote:

    People who think stick-thin women, who look more like young girls, are an asiprational look for all women need to seriously reconsider their outlook. The form of the natural woman should be celebrated, not concealed by the self appointed "leaders" of the media.

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  • 27. At 06:02am on 06 Sep 2009, ipillage wrote:

    I've always been a fan of plus-size models! There's a great site with lots of images of plus-size models here:

    http://www.judgmentofparis.com

    They're all gorgeous.

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  • 28. At 07:49am on 06 Sep 2009, steelpulse wrote:

    A roll of tummy fat can cause a storm in this country? You mean the kind of storm that can be whipped up with permanantly "outraged of Cheltenham" columnists in some media outlets. What is real - outrages them?

    I am outraged by being told falsity is what we - or perhaps those younger than me - should all aspire to. Ms Robinson grinning at me - the formerly known as Ms Katie Price and any number of so called WAGs and their Beaus.

    Rubbish, FiveLive. The woman looks fine. I plan to go back and confirm same! lol

    I was thinking I was outraged though this morning. But it is probably just pique.

    No offence to the man - but what made the sports news on your channel was one win - in at least 14 rides by one senior jockey. Ok, selfishly - I had a wager on the previous 13 nags but - was that really worthy of a sports item?

    And back to a storm maybe. See below for evidence that storms are caused by all the wrong things in Great Britain.

    Subject: Enjoy every slip and slurp of that - I may as well have written to father Christmas
    Anagram: POTUS slaveholder tyranny - JP fie – American family set - show that Walter thrives

    The BNP? Gawd! Let me outta here!

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  • 29. At 08:57am on 07 Sep 2009, Azildron wrote:

    Great girl.

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  • 30. At 01:38am on 09 Sep 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

    Richard:

    I have no problems with this picture...Since, it was on BBC World Have Your Say on BBC WS....

    =Dennis Junior=

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  • 31. At 10:59pm on 13 Oct 2009, lei50sa wrote:

    As an on again, off again diet conscious sports keep fit teacher and journalist, living in Normandy France,I listened with interest to your interview. Would you be so kind as to look at a fun easy to use keep fit book I have created for women of all ages, sizes, and cultures using real images of real women? I started working with obese women in dire straits and continued using images of women that are real, and have sold hundreds of copies to real women ! Nothing to buy, nothing to inflate, crate, stow away or study. These exercises take between 15 seconds and 1 minute and they WORK ! The fab artwork was created by an ingenious London woman I found hiding in the Normandy countryside and I have an advertising background in the USA Midwest. WIth hopes of hearing of your reaction, I remain, Leisa in Lorey www.byebyebidon.com

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