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• 1. At 09:47am on 31 Aug 2009, zeldalicious wrote:

  I don't think an ASBO will make the slightest bit of difference. As I understand it, here they operate a pubwatch type scheme where you can be barred from all drinking places if you are behaving badly.
  
  The way people binge/over drink in this country is cultural and unless that culture can be changed, the problem of drunkeness and all that ensues with hospitals, policing, public order etc, etc will continue.
  

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• 2. At 09:47am on 31 Aug 2009, ghengisella wrote:

  There are two clear issues. One - it seems most peoples objectives on a Thursday, Friday and Saturday night is to go out and get as hammered as possible. It will not be a good night unless you can't remember it, been sick or had a fight. The other issue is that invariably it is not the hardened alcoholics that participate in this behaviour. The week-end binge culture just shows the limited aspirations and thought processes that this section of society have if the highlight of the week is to see how drunk they can get of a week-end. Personnally I feel that if someone comes a croper because they are so drunk and have deliberatey got themselves into that state then they should be charged for any medical treatment needed. It is a criminal offence to serve a drunk person under the licensing act and this is rarely enforced. Local authorities are now responsible for the licensing applications these days rather than the police. Some police forces/local authorities have pub watch schemes whereby regular offenders are barred from all licenced premises within a town, but there are only so many people you can put on those at one time and adequately enforce it. We still assume that these people have a modicum of decency or understnading to control themselves, and they don't, therefore hit the suppliers, and the drinks industry to get them to help police the issue. Oh but we can't do that too harshly as it is such a big financial earner for the governement. The alcohol industry pay scant regard to the medical implications they are contributing to and the NHS can not cope with the increase. Drug rehab etc gets more funding than alcohol issues yet the problem is greater with alcohol. Lastly, whether it is alcohol or drugs you can't make someone go to rehab until they acknowledge that they have an issue and want to change the way they behave, most people just pay rehab lip service or genuinely feel that they can control their alcohol intake. 24hour licencing has been the root cause of the current problems - the government anticipate that the great British public have the ability to regulate themselves - WRONG - This is the one thing that we should have a nanny state about.

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• 3. At 09:51am on 31 Aug 2009, juicyzcl wrote:

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• 4. At 11:00am on 31 Aug 2009, wrighty601 wrote:

  5 years ago i used to love going out to the pub for a drink and smoke with all my friends.but the nanny state decided we could nt smoke in the pub so why dont these people (who i believe dont go in pubs anyway)ban us from drinking in pubs as well.then we can stop the shops and supermarkets selling alcohol,then we could stop football matches because of the holigans,and why not ban people from laughing to loud just in case it disturbs someone.or lets all move to afganhistan which sounds like paradise,no drinking. no loud music,no happiness,it sounds great doesnt it

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• 5. At 11:55am on 31 Aug 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

  I am glad, that the idea of the proposed ASBO for boozes will work...If they can get the resources needed.....
  
  
  =Dennis Junior=

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• 6. At 11:58am on 31 Aug 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

  Olie:
  
  Perhaps you think this is a better way to tackle problem drinking?
  
  There are other solutions on this issue, but, at this time; The ASBO's are the only option that can be implemented immediately.....
  
  =Dennis Junior=

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• 7. At 12:25pm on 31 Aug 2009, Briantherhino wrote:

  20 years ago when i was up town every weekend there was plenty of trouble and usualy more violent than i see now on my admitadly less frequent visits but the police just broke it up and it wasn't reported. Now if you go to the hospital with an injury the first thing they ask is "have you been drinking at all" and if the answer is yes it's reported as an alchohol related injury, even if it was a complete accident and would have happened with or without drink.
  
  On the issue of prices the whole tax system for booze is wrong. My local pub pays more for his beer than i do at the supermarket, yet whilst hthe licensee has a legal obligation to ensure the customer does not become incapasitated the supermarket doesn't. The gorls you see on the news falling over drunk on a Saturday night have spent the early evening at home drinking 12 alchopops for £5 from the shop and then gone out, dought 1 drink, danced and become intoxicated. yet it is the pub/club that gets the blame. We need to massively increase the tax on off-sales and reduce the tax for on-sales.

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• 8. At 12:29pm on 31 Aug 2009, Maggiehicks wrote:

  ASBO's are merely badges of honour for anyone "lucky" enough to get one. Personally I'd like to see a total ban on all alcohol related advertising. The government did it with tobacco so why not apply the same principals to alcohol. Alcohol causes more deaths than any other legal drug yet it is still glamorised. Why?

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• 9. At 2:54pm on 31 Aug 2009, wendymann wrote:

  asbos have proven not to work .
  
  anyway curious choice of news presenting , is there a blackout of certain news issues whilst the largely insignificant gets hyped beyond any reasonable count?
  
  for instance a dutch teenager cannot take her boat around the world is big news and yet the UN stating that the gazans are facing imminent catastrophe as a result of the continued seige by israel. curious news omission.

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• 10. At 4:02pm on 31 Aug 2009, DesktopGrindley wrote:

  In my personal opinion ASBO's have become 'collected' as status badges. Many of the youth in our society nowadays rank in order of the amount of asbo's they have collected. I would suspect that a 'Booze ASBO' would become even more of a status symbol.
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• 11. At 01:31am on 09 Sep 2009, Dennis Junior wrote:

  Olie:
  
  If this idea of ASBO for boozes were to happen; How much resources would it take...
  
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