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How would you tackle knife crime?

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Purvee Pattni | 08:40 UK time, Wednesday, 22 July 2009

knife_203_152.jpgIn ten areas covered by a government scheme to combat knife attacks in there's actually been a rise in the number of people killed by knives.

So if that's not working -- what will? Is prison the answer? Or is it all about working with communities to stop young people picking up knives in the first place?

That's the phone-in from 9 with Nicky.

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  • 1. At 09:13am on 22 Jul 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Parents are the biggest single influence on kids during their growing years!

    We have 4 children and live in an inner city. Both myself and my wife talk to our kids regularly about the potential dangers of knife crime. 1. We do not allow them unlimited time out hanging on the streets. 2. We will not allow them to be part of a gang. 3. We find time to involve ourselves in a range of activities with them. 4. We get them to interact with their extended family members, who also have a positive influence over them. 5. We regularly make checks the friends they hang with. 6. (I feel pretty confident this will never happen but) if my son or daughter was ever involved in knife crime, I wouldn't think twice about treporting them to the authorities.
    IN OTHER WORDS: WE SIMPLY ASSUME OUR ROLES AS PARENTS!!!!

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  • 2. At 09:15am on 22 Jul 2009, zeldalicious wrote:

    I was going to say much the same thing as Don. As he has put it so well all I can do is agree.

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  • 3. At 09:32am on 22 Jul 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Cheers zelds. As far as I can be concerned, it's not rocket science. Kids go slightly mental between the 'yoof' ages 13-16. If they have no support infrastructure to get them through that time, the consequences can be tragic. The sooner we properly understand that, the better for us all. It's not meant to sound trite or patronizing but I think we have all, to some extent, lost sight of that.

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  • 4. At 09:51am on 22 Jul 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Midi (the African Dentist - forgive the description) is 100% correct in ALL his comments. It's about 1. parenting, 2. having a 'father' figure, 3. having positive and effective role models for those disaffected boys (it is mostly boys).

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  • 5. At 09:55am on 22 Jul 2009, cleverelliejo wrote:

    Why does the BBC give this man (Daryl) air time? He is a thug. It is an insult to our intelligence to have his opinions aired. He is making a career out of being a knife welding criminal. Will someone PLEASE mop up Nicky's bleeding heart! I could almost hear him Sobbing!!Daryl always says that fear of the gang leaders make these people carry knives, perhaps they wouldn't if there wasa greater fear of the consequences.

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  • 6. At 09:56am on 22 Jul 2009, Sarnia wrote:

    I second you, Zelda in agreeing with Don. A loving infrastructure is essential - it's so obvious but it isn't politically correct to point it out and so the problem continues.



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  • 7. At 10:00am on 22 Jul 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Daryl was useful to understanding the problem. His comments need to be aired. Daryl was not justifiying his previous wrongs, he was merely trying to explain what goes on in the head of many of these young disaffected boys. At no time did he say they were right. In fact, he admitted that when he was younger - his attitude was completely immaure, cmpletely wrong!!

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  • 8. At 10:05am on 22 Jul 2009, The_Hess wrote:

    When the government realises that us teenagers actually need to have something to do with their time then knife crime will drop. Untill they provide activities that people want to do, nothing will change. Over the top child protection has forced many youth organisations to close and the government still failed to realise this. If you lived in a street, surrounded by concrete day and night where the only area for social recreation was a couple of swings for young children, how do you pass your time? Simple, hang out with your mates. Sadly the few incidents of knife crime has resulted in the media labeling all teenagers as criminals. There is never any focus on the good work carried out by young people such as the fact that young people are far more likely to do voluntary work. Perhaps giving young people a sense of purpose rather than disgarding us before we get a chance.

    I agree that stiffer penalties should be reintroduced, since it is Labour that changed the criminal justice system into an expensive joke, but this is not the answer. When these people enter back into society they will have no chance of making a new life and so the circle will continue.

    Focus on the good young people who form 90% of us teenagers, give us all something good to focus our efforts on, and stop criminalising us!

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  • 9. At 10:08am on 22 Jul 2009, zeldalicious wrote:

    The_Hess. Good comment but what do you want society to provide for young people? When I was growing up in the 60s there was nothing to do either.

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  • 10. At 10:34am on 22 Jul 2009, The_Hess wrote:

    Perhaps more youth organisations in areas affected by youth problems. As a Scout leader I fully understand why young people may not wish to join certain groups because of peer pressure but the young people we work with gain more than they ever could simply hanging around on street corners. However, if the government were to simply set up Scout groups in these areas nothing good would happen as peer pressure would result in no-one joining. What would be better would be a place where young people could meet, play some pool, have a laugh, get advice about issues such as contraception, drugs, alcohol, homework etc and above all enjoy themselves. Similar to Scouts but without the uniform/image etc. Trips could be arranged, sports teams formed and if it resulted in reduced crime and a better way of life for young people the costs would be recovered. Obviously this would need refining but you get the gist.

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  • 11. At 10:42am on 22 Jul 2009, zeldalicious wrote:

    I agree with you. I do a bit of secretarial work for my local scouts and fully appreciate the work that is done by the leaders and understand that the kids get a great deal out of it. I think your idea is very sound for the young people who don't want to join the scouting movement (or any other organised movement).

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  • 12. At 11:27am on 22 Jul 2009, mark-chapman wrote:

    I have been running a anti-knife crime blog for a few years after I went to try to help in a McDonalds restaurant when a lad with a combat knife stabbed Jacky Marshall, a really wonderful food floor superviser, to death.

    I was interviewed about the issue about rising knife crime deaths on BBC Sussex radio today. At present, there is confusion and poor communication of the latest round of knife crime figures. I would like to suggest appointing a knife and gun crime tsar because this problem is so huge.

    In addition, I wish politicians would stop electioneering on the issue, shut up bickering and sit down together to solve the issue. Everyone wants to see knife crime tackled. Public and political arguments do not communicate that clear resolve that we all have. Further details about my comments are in my latest knife crime blog post.

    mark.



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  • 13. At 7:14pm on 22 Jul 2009, ziplewis wrote:

    I listened to the show this morning, and I'm mystified by what some of the callers found offensive in what Daryl was saying. From what I understand, he is a former gang member, who has served time in prison, acknowledges the error of his ways and is making a significant contribution to addressing the problem of knife crime

    I believe that he should be applauded rather condemned.

    Not only did he provide a valuable and graphic insight into communities where many young people choose to carry knifes, he also proposed a number of practical solutions, ranging from education, mentoring to the introduction of harsher sentences.

    I hope that the BBC continue to air Daryl's views as they more helpful in moving the debate forward than those of either your average Daily Mail columnist or your average Sussex University sociologist/criminolgist

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  • 14. At 10:34pm on 22 Jul 2009, bigbad_don...est' 1886 wrote:

    Fully agree ziplewis....fully agree! I believe the criticisms where out of ignorance of fully understanding the problem. Daryl made some excellent points.

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  • 15. At 11:47am on 25 Jul 2009, MARRASAYS wrote:

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  • 16. At 12:42pm on 27 Jul 2009, wendymann wrote:

    give everyone a gun.

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