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ADHD - always controversial

Shelagh Fogarty | 07:55 UK time, Thursday, 24 July 2008

We discussed the condition ADHD on the programme this morning. It always proves controversial

My son had all the 'symptoms' of ADHD. I called it mischievous or naughty-dealt with it - not easy esp as am lone parent of two sons, but no drugs and no codswallop! Ill? Nope. Not enough parental discipline! Jude

Adhd has not been proved to be a genetic disorder. Psychiatrists continue to encourage medication of these collections of behaviours and brain wash the p ublic into believing it is in the child s best interest. It is not bad behaviour it is a complex reaction to their environment. Liz , psychologist, devon

Ritolin is prescribed as a panacea for badly behaved children- adhd is down to poor behaviour-ian-secondary school teacher-birmingham

The pressure from parents and teachers to give a tab to solve doing anything is huge. It's not the doctors i spend all my time trying 2 persuade parents not 2 drug their children. Its used 2 pass the 11+ in our area! Helen

ADHD is on the autistic spectrum. I am a chartered accountant and have a daughter on the spectrum. Anyone who thinks ADHD is a result of poor working cla ss parenting is ignorant! Stephen from Devon. I have ADHD. I'm 35. It doesn't just magically disappear when you are 18! I was diagnosed just 4 years ago . Ritalin is not the only solution. Concerta

I am 33 and have adhd and i am sick of always hearing how terrible our behaviour is. It is no fun but impulsiveness also means i am more creative, more spontaneous and less worried about what others think of me. Mareeka in northampton.

I consider my family middle class, & have good kids. My son has ADHD & was on Ritalin & it made huge diffence to him,both socially & academically., As a swimming teacher I se e a lot kids with ADHD it is not a figment of parents imagination & server cases r very difficult to live with. The families need a lot help. Try & be a bit more enlightened rather theem judgemental. Madeline from Plymouth

Good morning.in my 14 years of teaching i have had only taught 1 child who genuinely had ADHD yet many many others who had been perscribed ritalin as their parents desperatly sought a label to excuse their sons poor behaviour and lack of parental control.its no wonder that the number or children taking ritalin is rising if doctors continue to issue it in order to keep whining parents quiet.deal with the poor behaviour dont excuse it! Jon in bradford.

I knew a woman who claimed that her son had ADHD and she got a car to drive him around and so much benefits she did not have to work. Her son was one ofthe best behaved boys u could meet. His mum just knew how to milk the system. Darren, Manchester.

My Partners' Son has just left a Priory School for ADHD sufferers. The annual fees were a little over £100,000 a year. That put him in a rather interesti ng socio-economic group and by the way the outcome has been great!

Click here for a support group for parents with ADHD children

You can watch the Panorama programme about ADHD here

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  • 1. At 09:07am on 24 Jul 2008, steelpulse wrote:

    No offence but I am glad a Jude like attitude was my single parent influence.

    You cannot box everything into one tidy pile of problem and then offer the solution.

    ADHD - I remember one particular schoolboy I used to see every morning and could never quite pin down what "his problem" was. The parent walking with him didn't seem to mind the lads extraordinary behaviour all the time walking forward towards school. So perhaps it wasn't a problem except to me.

    Hyperactivity or misbehaviour - the beauty of everything is in the eye of the beerholder - as I saw on a teeshirt yesterday. Was it ADHD? I know for a fact that more parental discipline in that lads case would have been completely wrong as it was totally unnecessary.

    From the little I know of ADHD - it is complex. I will leave it at that.

    Oh Shelagh and whoever was there with you today - good morning.

    From my paper - I turn them into puffs for my complex ego you know? lol

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    And for my next trick - I will do exactly what Finn tells me to do. lol

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  • 2. At 11:33am on 24 Jul 2008, geniegone4aburton wrote:

    1. Ian 2ndary school teacher from Brum, if that is your take on ADHD then you certainly should be doing something else because the most important role in diagnosis and treatment of ADHD children lies with the school in working with the child psychologist so that he/she can decide on the appropriate action.
    2. Children don't have ADHD- they are ADHD. It is not an illness nor a disability.It has seriously been researched since the 1920s. It is an inability to adapt to a society where success is synonymous with planning and organisation, and in which randomness of actions has no place. It is the mindset of the hunter gatherer where organisation of your day didn't exist, and life consisted of constant alertness, taking opportunities when they arose for feeding your family and avoiding being eaten yourself.
    3. It produces intelligent, spontaneous, alert and creative children whose inability to adapt to order and planning manifests itself in lots of ways. In my child's case, an intolerance of and an anxious concept of time which affects his concentration and ability to stay on and complete tasks
    4. If ADHD is misinterpreted as bad behaviour, it is the resulting loss of self esteem that drives these children over the edge. It is utterly destructive within the family unit and unnecessarily so because ADHD children are generally kind, considerate and responsible if treated appropriately and as a result will, as they get older, find ways of managing the effects of ADHD
    5. My child is 14 and has been on Ritalin since he was 6. He has a responsibility to those around him to now manage himself so that the dosage can be reduced. We had the benefit of an enlightened GP who referred us to an enlightened paediatrician and then a psychologist. She required the school to observe my child at school(not Ian from Brum's thankfully) under specific criteria before being able to both diagnose and recommend treatment. Ritalin was a godsend, putting my child on a level playing field but should never be diagnosed other than by a child psychologist. I think it affects growth and certainly appetite but in any sensible course of treatment, growth will always be monitored. We were lucky.

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  • 3. At 12:47pm on 24 Jul 2008, alsablog wrote:

    Allergies can cause ADHD. especially red coloring. Also flavorings and sweeteners. These are in many drinks, packet food and medicines and even in vitamins. Ritalin has given heart attacks and strokes. Children have died. see www.ritalindeath.com

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  • 4. At 1:53pm on 24 Jul 2008, geniegone4aburton wrote:

    NO!... allergies don't cause ADHD. You don't catch ADHD for goodness sake!. Flavourings and preservatives exacerbate the hyperactive characteristics of it and therefore should be avoided.

    Of course, Ritalin can kill you. It is classified drug. So can lots of other types of medication if you abuse them. The potential dangers are well publicised - that's why there is an argument for Ritalin not being readily prescribed by GPs but left to the psychologist and paediatrician further down the line.

    Ritalin is a way of levelling the playing field for a child whilst he/she works out how to manage the effects of being ADHD with the help of family and specialists.

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  • 5. At 01:26am on 25 Jul 2008, Dennis Junior wrote:

    ADHD...Is a fad that is going to be gone in a few years.!

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  • 6. At 07:43am on 25 Jul 2008, steelpulse wrote:

    Morning Shelagh and Richard. Still laa laa laaing.

    I recall the "Shallow Chancellor - poor George - from one Nicholas Campbell of Form Five .

    This new boy - Robinson Minor. Form Four. Have a word.

    Bedding Inn is he? Okay. But no rudeness necessary. Sublty remember.

    Sorry to cut you off, Professor? Tut tut.

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  • 7. At 09:44am on 25 Jul 2008, zemizemi wrote:

    I know one extremely capable, skilled and intelligent adult and one child of below average intelligence. Both are ADHD. Without ritalin neither can function in ou society. The adult was unemployable, never made it past the interview process to secure a job. Without ritalin the child cannot control himself in open spaces (rooms, corridoors, playgrounds, streets, shops) and becomes terrifying to others whilst the world becomes terrifying to him. The drug has given two very different people the chance to live a life they have some control over, to be able to support themselves and form meaningful relationships.

    I do however know of other children who do not need the drug, and medical students who use it to sit exams.

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  • 8. At 9:44pm on 25 Jul 2008, steelpulse wrote:

    November 2007 - when Finn was about to retire?

    Have I Got (old) News For You?

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    Good grief.

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  • 9. At 00:27am on 26 Jul 2008, lostlynda wrote:

    i have a son he is 18 yeard old we went to hell n back with him we got NO HELP i got took to court because he would not go school
    lynda

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  • 10. At 07:50am on 27 Jul 2008, steelpulse wrote:

    Market Stall? Any old iron?

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    I thought SHE would need to leave the world if this turns out to be true on my side but watching Max M this morning. My goodness. He wants more?

    He plans to sue for libel too.

    Most of us mere mortals would be hurriedly mending our marriage - not bothering to enrich the legal system. I understood his wife didn't know about what the newspaper reported - albeit inaccurately.

    As someone remarked with some surprise - his contention is the NEWSPAPER story ruined his marriage?

    Oh dear, oh dear.

    But SHE - pray you are correct - or just wait until I stick "She who must be obeyed" onto you!

    That eyebrow - it is lethal! lol

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