Next week's themes...
Taking a week's holiday to avoid playing Frank Zappa might seem like an extreme thing to do, but I feel it was one of my better moves. Still, it's good to be back even if I'm going to miss lazing around in the Spanish sun when I'm cycling to work in this rain.Hopefully you'll enjoy next week's themes. I know I will enjoy Thursday in particular. It's another one of our 'chains' where you won't be able to suggest the next song until the previous one has aired. Details are below. Feel free to leave your comments here or why not join our Facebook page.
Monday 3 August
The glitterball is dusted down as we go DISCO tonight. We celebrate the kings and queens of the dancefloor, from Sister Sledge to Brothers Johnson - let us know your favourite disco track.
Tuesday 4 August
Tonight's theme is LOST and FOUND. 'Find My Love' or 'Lost Weekend'? Get in touch with your suggestions.
Wednesday 5 August
Have you heard that tune somewhere before? It's all about stolen riffs and melodies. Nirvana 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' and Boston 'More Than A Feeling'; The Chiffons 'He's So Fine' ( well spotted Norrie!!!) and George Harrison 'My Sweet Lord'. Let's compare notes tonight on Get It On!
Thursday 6 August
Tonight we're setting an on air challenge as the last word of the song's title has to appear in the next one.So we could play 'Walking on the Moon' followed by 'Under The Moon of Love' then 'I Love Rock'n'Roll'.Get your thinking caps on!
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Ulitmate Monday disco track. Bee Gees - Night Fever
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You had a good holiday i trust?
Mon
Aint no Stoppin' us Now....................McFadden and Whitehead
Tuesday
Midnight at the Lost and Found ...................... Meat Loaf
Wed
Changing Man ..... Paul Weller ------ E.L.O. ........... 10538 Overture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5q5vXV5iwE
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I am surprised at the normally litigation-averse BBC inviting allegations of plagiarism.
If your legal advisers allow this programme to to go ahead I believe those more musically aware than I may detect similarities between Teddy Thomson's In My Arms and the so-called Boss's Working On A Dream.
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One Fine Day??! wonder why they sued over He's So Fine instead?
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Monday
Rock Your Baby - George McCrae
Tuesday
Look What I've Found - Paul Williams
Wednesday
You Can't Catch Me - Chuck Berry
Come Together - The Beatles
Safe to play since Chuck placated by royalties from JL's Rock'n'Roll Album
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Just beat me to George McCrae, Glen, the first disco no.1
It's only in subsequent years that i've realised what great musicianship and production went into some of these records. So for monday
You don't have to go / Chi-lites
Machine Gun / Commodores
That Lady / Isley Brothers
Give me the night / George Benson
Fantasy / Earth Wind & Fire
One Nation Under a Groove / Funkadelic
Backstabbers / O'Jays
Shame / Evelyn Champagne King
Movin / Brass Construction
And absolutely anything from the genius of Nile Rogers and Bernie Edwards.
Lookin forward to the Northern Soul theme whenever that may be
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Tuesday Lost and Found
I found Lovin / The Fatback band
Finders Keepers / Chairmen of the board
Rikki don't lose that number / Steely Dan
Lost in Love / Air Supply (probably the naffest of all my guilty pleasures)
Wednesday stealy thieves
I want a new drug /Huey Lewis and the News
Ray parker Jnr stole the riff for ghostbusters and had his ass sued by Lewis. Unfortunately Lewis then broke a confidentiality agreement on the settlement and was countersued by Parker.
Also I've always thought that Jeff Lynn must have heard the tune for ELO's 'Showdown' through the grapevine.
And finally....Always loved Paul Weller's answer as to whether he stole taxman for 'Start'
''yeah, of course I did and I daresay if McCartney needs the money he'll sue me''. He never did.
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He's The Greatest Dancer - Sister Paolo..sorry I mean Sister Sledge
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#7
To say nothing of A Town Like Malice and Martha and the V's Ready For Love.
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... or Stevie Wonder's Uptight and Spencer Davis's Keep On Running.
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you're on a roll here Glen
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As long as no one sues.
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The Glimmer Twins are watching..........
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#13
There's a difference between lifting a riff (like Joe South's quotation from A Day In The Life in Hush)to lifting a whole song. Robert Johnson became "Trad. Arr. by" on a number of records by the GTs and other bands of the time. They, in turn, were swindled by their managers and record companies who were, in turn, cheated by a generation of downloaders.
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The Old Man Down the Road Ran Through the Jungle.
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I smell a riff.......
(wisnae me)
DC
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#16
The wan that smelt it delt it.
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I presume your father ran out of funds for the Swiss finishing school.
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'DIGNITAS SWISS FINISHING SCHOOL'
Everyone Graduates!
100% Success Rate. Guaranteed!
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You're dead - right?
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It puts a few stolen notes into perspective.
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'Terminal' - Rupert Holmes
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'Return to Sender' - Elvis
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'Coughin' Coffin' - Rompeprop
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'...and it's all done in the best possible taste!' - Cupid Stunt
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Short list this weekend (long story):
MONDAY
Boogie Nights - Heatwave
I feel love - Donna Summer
Boogie Wonderland - Earth Wind and Fire
Instant Replay - Dan Hartman
Strawberry Letter #23 - Brothers Johnson (may be more funk than disco)
Ooh La La - Goldfrapp
and of course you have to play something from the Bee Gees and Saturday Night Fever. I suggest Stayin' Alive
LOST & FOUND
You're missing - Springsteen
I found a letter - Allison Moorer
Baby, now that I've found you - Alison Krauss
Forever Lost - Magic Numbers
you've lost that lovin' feelin' - Righteous Brothers
I still haven't found what I'm looking for - U2
WEDNESDAY
All rather obvious.......
Russians - Sting
If I had words - Scott Fitzgerald and Yvonne Keeley
turn on me - The Shins
Bohemian like you - Dandy Warhols
Have a good weekend
Joe
Linlithgow
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Joe you seem to have interrupted their chat with some music suggestions.......
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Monday - Disco Favourites:
Tried to come at this from a slightly less-than-obvious angle but with a few old faves thrown in for good measure...
Acceptable In The 80's - Calvin Harris
I Was Made For Dancin' - Leif Garrett
Around The World - Daft Punk
I Want Your Love - Chic
Last Dance - Ce Ce Peniston
Hot Stuff - Donna Summer
No More Tears (Enough Is Enough) - Barbra Streisand, Donna Summer
Disco Lies - Moby
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Tuesday - Lost And Found:
I'll Find My Way Home - Jon & Vangelis
The Lovers Are Losing - Keane
I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For - U2
Discovery - Lau
Serendipity - John Martyn
Lost In The Supermarket - The Clash
Lost Cause - Beck
Discovered - Four Tops
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What's the difference between samples and stolen (sorry mr legal eagle, I mean similar sounding) riffs. Are samples always credited to the original writers?
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Samples are taken and credited from those with enough clout to employ lawyers. Other music is stolen.
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Monday:
I think the best ever disco track is 'You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real)' by Sylvester.
Also very fond of 'I Love to Love' by Tina Charles who looked like someone's sensible older sister but sang a really catchy disco tune.
'Love Machine' by The Miracles from around the same time is also very good.
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Monday - Disco:
#32, Three top tracks Julie, one of these must get played!
I'm goin for a selection containing a few that I'm not actually sure qualify as "Disco" but I think they're all pretty danceable so her goes:
Rock with You - Michael Jackson
Thinking of You - Sister Sledge
Modern Love - David Bowie
Love Shack - B52's
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MONDAY
'Knock Three Times' - Tony Orlando & Dawn
For Frank in Denny, who is too shy to ask for it himself. (I prefer the Slosh, but Frank is a black belt at the Alley Cat)
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Did anyone else spot the deliberate mistake on Thursday's playlist?
>8-D
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Since I didn't start shaving till I was 34 my ''youthful'' looks meant i had difficulty gettin into pubs and clubs before the legal age. However I remember gettin past a blind doorman into Jives Disco in Airdrie at the age of 17 and three quarters. It was my first ever disco in a 'proper' nightclub and I remember the DJ playing T Connection 'Do what you gotta do' which was the first 12 inch single I had ever seen (in Boots a few days earlier) and Patrick Juvet's 'I Love America'.
I also remember seeing a gorgeous girl and eventually plucked up the courage to ask her to dance. She looked me up and down and said. 'Phhhh you shouldn't even be in here'. I never ever asked anyone again. Just did what the rest did. Tap on the shoulder and hope for the best!
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#35
It wasn't a mistake Scotch. This Charming Man really was played twice in 5 days. Sat 25th and thu 30th. Can you believe that? You can? Really?
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#37
No.
#36
Can you really remember that far back? Or did you refer to your diary?
>8-D
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Got it in one. The Diary of Paolopablo aged 17 and 3/4
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TUESDAY
'Amazing Grace' - Elvis
A drummer, a pianist, a Gospel Choir and the King. (No, not Jesus).
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King L - Lost and Found and Lost Again.
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#36
Yon doorman at Jives Disco was blind. But now he C's.
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Disco King - Carrara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRLOtavjM7s
Think we can keep this up? :-)
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BRING ME THE HEAD DOORMAN OF ALFREDO GARSEEA!
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#43
I haven't been asked that question since my honeymoon...
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BRING ME THE BIG HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA!
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Who came up with the themes this week? Nobody seems to get credited anymore.
Monday:
Beaten to George McCrae so I'm going for the great KC and The Sunshine Band:
"Queen of Clubs" or "(Shake, Shake, Shake) Shake your Booty"
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Monday - the wee lassie frae Paisley - Kelly Marie - Feels Like I'm in Love
or
Diana Ross - Inside Out from about the same time. That is all.
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Hehehe
It's every bit as bad as I remember it - have a butchers at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rYhdnrzCHo
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# 49 - Brilliant MaxB. Great dance routine, you could tell she was enjoying herself, thinking "well at least this is just getting shown in Germany".
Hardly a "wee lassie" though...
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It wisnae as bas this wan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqUCutugP0E
For all the great disco and funk music that was about there was always someone wanting to rehash an old song and 'put it to the beat'. oh and does emdy remember Sheila b Devotion doin Singing in the Rain.
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#51
It really does take some amount of skill to keep a gerbil perched on your top lip whilst dancing like that - the wee buggers squirm.
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Bryan Burnett
Taking a week's holiday to avoid playing Frank Zappa might seem like an extreme thing to do, but I feel it was one of my better moves.
Frank Zappa
A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it's not open.
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Is it the fabulous music of all types that i suggest?
Is it my witty stories?
Is it suggesting links to other interesting sites?
Is it my friendly banter with other bloggers?
What is it that i'm remembered for?
THE BLIDDY SLOSH THAT WHAT!!!
Thanks guys :O)
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Btw Paolo
When are we getting this weeks installment of life in the big blog house?
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THIS IS BB - WOULD PAULO PLEASE COME TO THE DIARY ROOM AND BRING ME THE BLOG OF ALFREDO GARCIA.
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Monday DISCO
Roxy Music's 'disco' version of Angel Eyes, the 12" version was a disco dance floor filler in 1979. The original recording of Angel Eyes was very rocky and was only available on early pressings and the picture disc at the time of the albums release. The album release changed to include this version after they released this disco version for a single.
J.O'B.
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I have just the one suggestion for TUESDAY
Longpigs - 'Lost Myself'
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A brace for Tuesday:
"Now That We've Found Love" - Third World
"Baby, Now That I've Found You" - The Foundations
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#55
'Big Brother house' in Geordie slang is 'muckle bairn kip'.
allegedly
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"...The problem with people with open minds is that sometimes their minds are so open their brains fall out."
Deborah E. Lipstadt
Letter to Oxford Union
27th Nov. 2007
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The Who - The Seeker
Van Morrison - Take It Where You Find It
Ryan Adams - Touch, Feel, Lose
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#62 Pushing the boundaries a bit with "Seeker" Norrie!
Not so of course with:- The Seekers - I'll Never Find Another You
Which features Judith Durham as usual in fine voice.
If you can get away with that I'm gonnae suggest another "crowd" from down under;-
Split Enz - Missing Person
Which I'm justifying on the basis of being temporarily lost (or in the initial stages!)
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Tuesday:
Could be a wee bit lengthy at 4.53, but how about LOST PATROL from Big Country? That'll take a few of us back to 1983...
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#61 Ha ha
Frank Zappa
Who are the brain police?
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"You are thought here to be the most senseless and fit man for the constable of the watch, therefore bear you the lantern."
Much Ado About Nothing
William Shakespeare
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Tuesday:
"Another Lost Soul On The Run" by Phil Manzanera + Andy Mackay's post Roxy band The Explorers
J.O'B.
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Re: #35
Still there. Why should I care?
*sigh*
Zappa fans will be ever so annoyed........
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#66
Frank Zappa
So far, ladies and gentlemen, the response from this particular community has not been especially gratifying. Perhaps you're a little bit too intellectual here.
#68
Frank Zappa
A petulant frenzy! This is a petulant Frenzy! I'm petulant, and I'm having a frenzy!
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TUESDAY:
Lost Property - Divine Comedy
Missing Words - Selecter
Found A Job - Talking Heads
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Day 35 in the BBBBB house
1234pm
The housemates are getting increasingly restless. There has been no access to the diary room for 5 days.
'How long is she gonna be in there' asked JFE
'I could have sailed from edinburgh to glasgow the long way round in that time' said DC
'I could have watched the Majestics a hunner times since she's been in there' said Scotch
'I could have listened to the Hoover's entire back catalogue' said Paul
from Ayr
'I could have been to ashbury park and back' said Norrie
Everyone looked at Frank.
'No No No No I wouldn't even have done it once in that time' said Frank.
'I could have moved on my chessboard' said Jan
'I could have walked from edinburgh to glasgow with a copy of Burlesque for BB' said Julie
Glen was still in the sinbin after being moderated in last week's task.
Hoppo was alone with his thoughts and just smiled to himself.
'I could have made you all pies' said kirsty from Killie
'I could still have been browsing instead of gettin dragged in here' said Kirsty from lanark
'Gotta be More Than this' said Roxyjohn, ''we're stranded''
Inside the diary room Miss Babs was in tears.
'Its been 5 days now' said BB 'You have to leave the diary room'
''No I can't , please don't make me, that new housemate GreggaryPeccary is a bully. He savaged me cos I don't like Frank Zappa. I'm a nervous wreck. I'll do anything. I'll play Tull Bragg Rundgren Family anything. i promise. please don't let me have to face him again. All the other blogger housemates are pussycats in comparison, even EC''
The diary room opened.. . . . .
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Back from hols (bonjour, tout le monde), and not quite back in gear, but:
Tuesday:
* They Might Be Giants - Lucky Ball & Chain
* Billy Bragg - A Lover Sings
* Proclaimers - Then I Met You
* Jeff Wayne - Forever Autumn
Absolutely seconding hughfromglasgow's shout of
* The Selector - Missing Words
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#63 Paul I dont really think that Who track is so far off the theme, certainly the lyrics are ok for the theme. The Rush version is good too.
Why has no one suggested a certain welsh songstress yet?
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3 few more for tonight
Lovin on the losin side / Tommy Hunt
Lost Again / Clifford T ward
lost in space / Lighthouse Family
and since sister sledge missed out last night perhaps they will get an airing tonight.
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Jon & Vangelis - II'll Find My Home
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Great show last night. Did you know that Born to be alive featured an unknown Madonna Ciccione on backing vocals?.
Meanwhile, here's a future theme .for you..songs with very few(less than 10?) words. I give you Get up and Boogie / Silver Convention, Pick up the pieces / Average white band, Mouldy old dough / lieutenant pigeon, Return of the los palmas 7 / Madness (which included the word waiter!). Instrumentals only don't count.
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Last nights show also reminded me of a possible theme - B sides which became the hit.
Donna Summer's I Feel Love was a b side.
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#71, Sounds like heaven Paolo, I do have a lot of the hoover's stuff but not quite the lot, it's looking like a life's work to collect it!
Thanks again for the entertainment!
#73, Norrie, I never thought about the lyrics, sorry, not up on that so I'll give you the benefit!
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#77
Was it? I never knew that. B side of what?
Maggie may is probably the most famous b side of all. Good idea Norrie as long as we don't get Brown girl in the ring.
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#76
* The Beatles: Why Don't We Do It In the Road?
Total of 13 words (the title, plus "No-one will be watching us")
* Pink Floyd: One of These Days
12 words
Mind you, Return of the Los Palmas 7 is an instrumental. With a near sound-effect single word added in.
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#79 Paolo Can't We Just Sit Down (And Work This Out)?
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"It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations."
Winston Churchill
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"Well said, that man!"
Me
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#82
If he can read he's not uneducated.
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#84
Are you seriously suggesting that the Secretary of War who, in 1919, sent 12,000 English troops, with tanks and artillery, to Glasgow in order to break a strike could be wrong? Do you think that the fat Tory (expletive deleted) who ordered the Highland Light Infantry to be confined to Maryhill barracks lest they join the strikers was capable of such a fundamental error?
I'm just glad 'twas he who said it and not I!
>8-D
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#85
Before some pedant tells me he was a Liberal, auld Winnie was always a Tory at heart.
He may have redeemed himself fighting the Nazis, but let us not forget his attitude towards us.
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Wednesday
When you started playing that Al Jarreau song on Saturday night (`Morning), I thought you were going to play The Girl is Mine by Michael Jackson.
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Adam...Loved hearing Third World tonight.
WEDNESDAY:
The daughter would no doubt like to hear some John Mayer on the show. His song 'Waiting for The World To Change' is quite like U2's 'Stuck In A Moment'. Go on, add to the repertoire.
Some similarity between Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Tuesday's Gone' and 'Wonderful Tonight' by Eric Clapton. (The Skynyrd track would be good to hear at any rate).
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STOLEN WEDNESDAY
There have been so many thefts recently by modern bands but the trouble is I can't remember any of their names. Just gonnae have to go back a bit further in time:-
Girl from the North Country - Bob Dylan
AND
Scarborough Fair - Simon & Garfunkel
Both learned from Martin Carthy, the English folk singer.
Al least Dylan could be said to have borrowed parts of it in a more subtle way and chaged the title, but S&G pretty much nicked the lot!
Even Martin can't claim total credit as it's a traditional English folk song which is apparently based on an even earlier Scottish one called the "Elfin Knight" from 1650.
Is that ancient enough!
Good to know that the top artists owe so much to God's country!
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#86
You heap disapprobation on a man who cannot reply.
In his defence, any man who had champagne for breakfast was probably not making sensible decisions by lunchtime and, to my knowledge, he never released a disco single.
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Wednesday - Stolen Riffs And Melodies:
Both versions given so take your pick as to which to play!
My Sweet Lord - George Harrison
Remarkably similar to:
He's So Fine - The Chiffons
Stan - Eminem
Famously a straight lift from:
Thank You - Dido
Ice, Ice Baby - Vanilla Ice
Obviously ripped off from:
Under Pressure - David Bowie
S.O.S. - Rihanna
Probably an unconscious copy of the idea in:
Tainted Love - Soft Cell (which was ironically was itself a cover)
Viva La Vida - Coldplay
Utter irony if this is a mistake, but it's very similar to:
Songs I Didn't Write - The Creaky Boards
Pastime Paradise - Stevie Wonder
Straight lift of the main riff in:
Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio
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OK I take it back - the Rihanna track WAS a rip off now that I hear it played back! :-)
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Nick Lowe - Heart In The City
remarkably similar to
Jonathan Richman - Roadrunner
David Bowie - Queen Bitch
reamarkably similar to
Velvet Underground - Sweet Jane
if it can be allowed under the theme
The Who - Real Good Looking Boy
contains elements of
Elvis - I Can't Help Falling In Love
and the ultimate irony of the Stones lifting a melody and having admit it
Rolling Stones - Has Anybody Seen My Baby
has the melody of
k d Lang - Constant Craving
Should be an excellent show.
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The mighty Duran Duran's Girls On Film always reminds me of disco Donna Summer's Love's Unkind.
#91
You can hear someone singing "He's So Fine" at 1m39s in Let It Roll on All Things Must Pass (produced by Hollywood's least popular date P. Spector).
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I think My Sweet Lord and All Things Must Pass are fantatsic tracks and Harrison seemed to be limbering up for the guitar sound on My Sweet Lord on his session with Dylan on his If Not For You track. I could be wrong on that one though.
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#47 Miss Babs and her kids pick them on their holidays
#81 B sides would be a great theme Norrie. A lot of good album tracks were used as b sides back in the day.
#91 Jim you're confusing me again.(see #30. Were some of these not samples?
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The Chi-lites got played tonight. I'll get 'You don't have to go' on yet.
. . . and the Chimes is one of they rare cover versions which I much prefer to the original.
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#86, #90
see #12
Re:#35
Yep, still there.
>8-D
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Bowie The Jean Genie = The Sweet Blockbuster
The Jean Genie was written recorded and released as a single before the Sweet's song, yet The Sweet kept Bowie off Number 1 with their song!
It strikes me that one of the problems with this theme is how do they prove it without playing both?
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#89
And that other bit of thievery (less well credited): Hard Rain is Gonna Fall is an *awful* lot like the traditional ballad Lord Randall.
BTW, Martin C doesn't claim credit for traditional songs except in his performance, but unlike today's litigious climate, traditional music revels in lifting, appropriating and adapting previous music in an evolutionary process. There's a fantastic quote Vaughan Williams cites in National Music: "a genius is the child of tradition and at the same time a rebel against that tradition" which covers it nicely.
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#99
Other BBC websites can do it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8181540.stm
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#91
If you're going to mention Harrison-v-The Chiffons you really have to mention the lawsuit that went along with it.
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Capt there are lots of these types of lawsuits are there not, I will be pretty surprised if most people don't already know the details on that case.
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Here's a link to post #7. If you want to work out for yourself who ripped it off then don't look back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ku4QUhoXk
Has everyone else had their name changed to 'You'
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Right so:
* Eurhythmics - It's All Right, Baby's Coming Back
main melody clearly the riff from
* Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - Tears of a Clown
* Kid Rock - All Summer Long
openly inspired by
* Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama
but then, aren't they both awfully like
* Warren Zefon - Werewolves of London?
as is
* AC/DC - Back in Black
* Billy Bragg - Walk away Renee
is more than a cover of the Four Tops song - it uses the original as a backing to entirely new words
* Billy Bragg - The Saturday Boy
has a quote of the chorus of La La (Means I Love You). I prefer the Swing Out Sister version from the 4 Weddings & a Funeral OST, but the Delfonics original is good too.
* The Beatles - Taxman
is so close to The Batman theme it's not true - you could drop in the "Batmaaan!" bit to replace the end of line "Taxman" and it'd be almost unnoticeable. So let's go for
* The Jam - Batman
* Bobby Darin - Beyond the Sea
is
* Charles Trenet - La Mer (so much so that I'll happily sing one to the Karaoke version of the other)
* The Police - Every Breath You Take
is a classic 4 chord trick; you could easily use it as a backing track for
* Ben E King - Stand By Me
* Prince so liked writing 1999 that he wrote it again:
* The Bangles - Manic Monday
But he's not alone -
* Phil Collins - Susudio
is pretty similar too
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#103
Yeah, but Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music is probably the seminal case of its type, where it's absolutely incontrovertible.
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Couple more:
The Jam - Start
-v-
The Beatles - Taxman
which I think was mentioned some months back on GiO
The Kinks - All Day and All of the Night
-v-
The Doors - Hello, I Love You
Memory (damn, don't have headphones with me to check) suggests that the intro of Cigarettes and Alcohol is not unlike Get It On.
Anyone else think there's a Bat out of Hell/Thunder Road thing too?
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Capt you maybe know there was a case in the 20's over a Bix Beiderbecke song but not sure what it was - anyway it is clearly something that has been going on for a very long time.
Dont see Bat out of Hell / Thunder Road at all. I could see oasis and Dont Look Back In Anger being compared to several Mott The Hoople tracks but not a direct lift.
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#107
The Bat out of Hell / Thunder road thing probably comes from Roy Bittan who played piano on both in his own unique style but I think the similarities end there. Some great suggestions on here however. . Gonna be a really interesting show. Let's have a sweep on how many times Bryan uses the word allegedly!
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#107
In saying that captain I suppose the songs have similar themes as well...except one made it out of town and the other didn't
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Very much echo shout by CaptRamius RE: Billy Bragg and Walk Away Renee... the melody borrowed to produce a quite unique offering.
Indeed this track begs a (repeat?) theme of 'BEST CLOSING LINES'...
And while on the subject of The Four Tops; "I Can't Help Myself" and 'It's the Same Old Song" share a very similar melody. Infact is there not an account of that is how the second track got it's title?
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#111
...and puns:
I said, "I’m the most illegible bachelor in town."
And she said, "Yea, that's why I can never understand
Any of those silly letters you send me."
(For those who'd like to play along at home)
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#96
Paulo - I don't think it matters for tonight if a track is sampled or simply imitated in some way. The main point is that you have one song that by accident or design appears to have lifted material from another. I think it actually happens quite a lot by accident as from a musical standpoint there are many 'standard' chord progressions and studio engineering setups that tend to be used over and over. And because of the way melodies tend to fit on top of chordal structures you can often hear a track for the very first time and still be able to sing along as the line is predictable given how familiar we all are with popular music. As an interesting aside, in critical theory many bright people have studied how we 're-read' older music and appreciate it in ways other than that intended by the writer because our musical sensibilities always grow to include more recent innovation. Medieval musical notation didn't even have 'bar lines' as we would today, and yet we hear synchopation in certain tunes from those times - I am pretty sure the monks weren't funky! :-)
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Except Jim we had a very specific samples night and not that long ago....unless my memory is failing me.
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Stolen Wednesday
Fascination , Alphabeat
Modern Love, David Bowie
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#113 #114
That's my point. We did have a samples night a couple of months back. So is this a rehash or is the criteria that the originals received no credit or royalties. I think we need a bit of clarification here. Agree it's all down to personal interpretation ....something I might find similar someone else won't.but it's gonna be a really interesting show. I expect tonight I'll be saying more than once...Jeez so it is, I never realised that!
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After being taken to court Rod finally admitted that he got the refrain for "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy" from the song Taj Mahal by Brazilian, Jorge Ben Jor. Have a listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0_rQhtKGPA&feature=related
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#116 spot on paolo which is why I questioned "The Who - Real Good Looking Boy" as being admissable as they credit the original song as being "an interpolation".
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#117 That is superb Adam! It is a shocker if that does not get played.
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Another couple I think sound similar are Good Times / Chic and Madonna / Holiday.
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#114
Actually, it was Mid-January (I remember cos I was in India and the show very pointedly avoided mashups (bah!))
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Point still stands. That was a theme on samples. This is a theme on stolen / borrowed riffs / melody etc.
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There's also little doubt that Brotherhood of Man's Angelo was based on Abba's Fernando. Perhaps not a stolen riff but everything else about the song structure, the look etc, was definitely ripped off.
Which brings me to a bit of useless trivia...Fernando angelo hello innuendo waterloo geno figaro are all one word titles ending in o that have topped the uk chart!
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#123
and Shaddapayafaceo
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#112... puns in songs... nice theme....
Let me just grab my Billy Bragg song book...
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#122
This is the same argument we always have - at the end of the day if good tracks get played, that's job done as far as I'm concerned. I still don't think it matters if tracks are 'sampled' or 'vertioned' or whatever we want to call it. The central point of tonight's theme is that one track has 'borrowed heavily' from another, and sampling is a legitimate way of achieving that. :-)
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WEDNESDAY - shared riffs:
Raconteurs - Steady As She Goes
Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him?
David Bowie - Fame
James Brown - Hot
Our Daughter's Wedding - Lawnchairs
OMD - Messages (I think?)
Smith - Panic
T Rex - Metal Guru
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#126
You're right Jim in that some themes 'stretch' on the night but i'd be most disappointed if legitimate samples make it tonight. I just don't see that as the theme at all
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#128
Naw! Just enjoy a good show! :-)
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Jim this is not some same old argument re-hashed. On this blog there are regular comments if a theme is repeated to soon or if the show veers off them too far. This is a theme based show and becasue of that tracks which are not good songs get played becasue they fit the theme perfectly and that of course is absolutely fine. For "just good tracks" there are plenty other radio shows, but the fun here is stretching the mind a wee bit to think of songs which fit the theme, are interesting and which hopefully are good songs as well. This theme is clearly not samples....so like paolo I hope as always that they stick to the theme.
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#100
Roll Over Vaughan Williams - Richard Thompson
The Nark Ascending - Frank Zappa
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#130
Norrie - I do take your point, but at the end of the day the themes are just a clever vehicle by which good tunes get played. It's not meant to be brain surgery! :-)
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Let me say in advance of tonight's broadcast that I don't want any of my licence fee going in legal fees when I've already paid for the Director General's curtailed holiday thanks to Russell Brand's foul mouth.
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It's as well Jim!! ;o)
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WEDNESDAY
Bowie's Jean Jeanie and The Sweet 'Blockbuster'
Prince '1999' Phil Collins 'Sussudio'
a million 12/8 guitar picking C Am F G (or similar in other key songs form the 60's)
Every 12 bar blues track you can think of. (Incuding Let's Stick Together)
Roxy Music's Re-make/Re-model has a Jazz parody in the middle where each musician does his wee solo bit, Ride Of The Valkyries on sax, Duane Eddy's Peter Gunn on Guitar, Daytripper on Bass and Eno sounding like a Dalek farting.
J.O'B.
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#133
I blame the Daily Mail, not Russell Brand.
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#133 It's all part of the masterplan GIO for world domination. First Facebook then the front pages!
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#71
Much better being in the body of the kirk!
Looking forward to tonight's show- Prince "1999" and Phil Collins "Susudio" was the first one which popped into my head but many better than me have suggested it already!
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#137
First we take Manhattan... And then page three! :-)
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#71
Presumably I've already been evicted (with Mike from Shropshire) for over-requesting Bragg & Floyd.
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140
You 're still working on the virus. See last weeks blog
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Obviously plagiarising someone else’s work is bad. If it’s your own work though, surely it’s just a form of recycling and is eco-friendly and should be encouraged.
Most listeners will know the Paul Simon track “Slip-sliding away” which includes the lyric
“He kissed his boy as he lay sleeping and he turned around and headed home again”
Paul seemed to like the line so much he used it again in “Father and Daughter”, this time with the words
“There could never be a father loved his daughter more than I love you”
Lack of imagination, perhaps?
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#142
Possibly.
Are you related to sloopjohnnybgooddaysunshinesontviskingoftheroadhousebluesinthenightoffearthereaper?
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#96 (re #47)
LOL Paolo, but you`d better watch you dont get moderated for writing things like that!
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No suggestions for tomorrows first song?
How about a wee bit of country which includes first and last
Willie Nelson - The Last Thing I Needed First Thing This Morning
Morning appears in lots of songs so could be a good starter
or keeping in with the On theme
Bryan Ferry - What Goes On
again On being an easy starter.
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THURSDAY (First Song)
'You're Such A Good Looking Woman' - Joe Dolan
For a Rompin' Stompin' Start to the Show!
Adam,
Eddie Mair interviewed a Brazilian lady today regarding TV adverts which encourage people to 'shower in the shower' as it were. They're not shy, are they?
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#146
Did somebody mention showering?
http://www.teensay.co.uk/bizarre/wet-trucker_115.html
:-)
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#147, To follow that it should really be China Girl - David Bowie, to start tomorrow's prog.
That way they could follow up with "Girl from the North Country" to atone for today's omission!
Not that I'm bitter...
:-(
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#147
No, I hadn't, but: http://xkcd.com/305/
(it's a cartoon and SFW, although the theme of that particular strip is a little adult in nature)
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#131
Subtle, glen. I mean, who do these new bloggers think they are? What with their different opinions and everything?
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#150 Scotch-git, I would say the new bloggers have a right to their opinions.
During his last Interview in 1993 Frank Zappa was said to be a serious classical Composer as well as being funny, opinionated and Off the Wall.
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#151 More so given the rubbish that is spouted here (me included)and I hope that any new bloggers are not put off contributing by anyone at all.
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#152 Not at all.
Everybody believes in something and everybody, by virtue of the fact that they believe in something, uses that something to support their own existence
Frank Zappa
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#153
"Boing!"
Zebedee :-)
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#146, No they're not shy SG, though they are a bit reticent about becoming new bloggers......
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good to see you all doing so much to welcome new bloggers, I am sure they are encouraged.
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#153
Do you have one of Mick, Cynthia?
Welcome new blogger Soctch Git.
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Penis Dimension FZ.
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God save the queen - sex pistols
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... or God is a dj - Faithless
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Has to be the pistols and God Save the Queen
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May You Never John Martyn
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Up the Junction Squeeze
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evenin
Cry myself blind / Primal scream
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river deep mountain high / Ike and Tina
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High Hopes Frank Sinatra
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High heel Sneakers / Tommy tucker
Good luck with the nest one :-)
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i know a song about tommy tucker
self moderate self moderate self moderate
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tut tut
The OED will i'm sure list high and highway as two distinct words. Cheat Cheat cheat............
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Everything But The Girl Come Hell or High Water
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oh...my user name is now YOU
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I'm You as well
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no no i'm YOU !!!
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That's it. Ah'm no playin. High becomes highway, hell becomes hello. na na na na na!
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Time out please!!!! we need to clarify a few things
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Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Elton Facebooks not speakin!
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sore throat Babs....were you screaming at the football last night too?? :o)
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Ok i'll play by your rules then. Nowhere Hmmm
Now I'm here / Queen :-)
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Running up the Hill Kate Bush
If you can do it so can i.....
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Last time we did this we had road to nowhere goin in to nowhere to run as wll. Spooky or what? I only remember cos Nowhere to run was the only one I guessed right all night
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A lot of You's tonight
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#150, #151
Cynthia,
Read it again. Better still, say it out loud!
I have been traduced! Infamy, infamy, they've got it infamy..........
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hey paolo.... i thought you were joking about Jim and the Captain...... and that virus!!!!!!
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Can I just say that last night's show was one of the best.
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#183
Well they have been unusually quiet today
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At 11:55am I was filling my Chunter 2.5 Diesel with diesel. In Ruglin.
And I have a receipt to prove it! Phone the Polis!!
>8-D
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i didn't hear last nights show.... iplayer for me later
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Blue Christmas /Elvis
Blue Danube / johann strauss
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Blue eyes cryin in the rain / Willie Nelson
A Wee happy tune!
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Killermont street ... Aztec Camera
A bit random.. i'll give you that.... but hey, BB threw the rules out half an hour ago
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"If brevity is the soul of wit, then repetition is the heart of instruction."
General George S. Patton, Jr.
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Do Be Do Be Do
Frank Sinatra
Who was #150?
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"Next to being witty, the best thing is being able to quote another's wit."
Christian Nestell Bovee
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I was hoping for a few more blogs before being rumbled.
Thanks to the bloggers who gave me a right good laugh this week and especially to Cynthia for backing the cause.
Taking a fortnight's holiday to avoid listening to the Smiths might seem like an extreme thing to do, but I feel it is one of my better moves.
GreggaryPeccary alias Soctch-git
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Grrrr
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"Ramon, whatever happens, it's strictly between you and me and the horse."
Gregory Peck
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#140
CaptRamius... you might be interested... just heard on last nights Iain Anderson show The Byrds performing Dylans 'Chimes of Freedom'.... It's only the tune of 'Ideology' from Billy Braggs 'Taxman' album.
You never know... it could be one to squeeze in a Saturday Bryan.... thought not!
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#171-173
No, *I'm* Spartacus
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#197
I heard that track whilst driving home actually, but it didn't register with me. Will have to Listen Again.
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#198
He's got a wife, you know...
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Ah'll get ma jaiket.
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Aha, Samples Night
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Whats the connection Capt?
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Similar idea to the stolen riffs and melodies theme I suppose...
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#202-204
I'd posted above that from memory, Samples night was in January... was just providing the evidence.
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Peeps - please excuse the language in this clip but it HAS to be seen by as many fans of BBC output as possible!
Question - Is David Robertson a magician?
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#205 are you still arguing that samples should have been permitted on stolen riffs night!
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#206
Apologies - I thought it was funny... The regulars can catch it at the LastFM site. :-)
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#206
Pen, nae pen.. pen, nae pen....
that guys very good...
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#157 No, but I have one of GreggaryPeccary!
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How suite......
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