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Friday 14 August 2009, 15:00

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Left to its own devices the Kermode Uncut blog recombined the Boorman and Tarantino items to generate an explosion of energetic, elevated and enterprising discussion to which I am here delighted to alert you.

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    Comment number 1.

    What is this pay-pher you speak off? See how it bends in his hands.
    Quentin Tarantino once said he would never make a "limp d**k movie". Is he succeeding?

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    Comment number 2.

    I agree with all your point on QT, but I very much doubt he had anything to do with inglorious basterds being changed for TV advertising, thats something the marketing people probably did without him, so you can't really blame him for that.

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    Comment number 3.

    Hi Mark

    Great blog as always and a terrific summary of the Boorman/Tarantino debate.
    It got me to thinking however on the career of Friedkin, one of if not your favourite directors. Having binged recently on The French Connection, The Exorcist, Cruising and To Live And Die In LA, it seems that his creative bubble then burst somewhat.
    Don't get me wrong, Bug was fun (but rubbish) and The Hunted had a certain kinetic quality to it (but still rubbish), but the rest is just a bit, well...rubbish. Jade, Rampage, Rules Of Engagement and who could forget The Guardian. Well...I have thank God.

    Do you have an explanation for this? Have you dared to ask him the reasons for making those films? Was it also because he was also told he was a brilliant film maker or did he simply just burn out somewhat?

    By the way, do you know if the new cut of Cruising will be available in the UK?

    Keep up the grand work and the quiff.

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    Comment number 4.

    I don't understand why people have problems with Tarrintino's films. He doesn’t release a film every year like Ridley Scott and his films like Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction are fantastic. Like the Superman speech in Kill Bill and the Royal with cheese in Pulp Fiction.

    I think the music he chooses in his films are genius as well, especially in Pulp Fiction, which he doesn’t have to place there, unlike Guy Ritchie who relies heavily on the soundtrack on his films.

    I think the dialogue in other films is even more unnatural, most of the times just used to move the plot along or remind the audience what is going on.

    The only film that he’s made that is awful is Death Proof, but I think there are much worse things in cinema than the dialogue in Tarrintino’s films.

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    Comment number 5.

    As much as I hate Michael Bay, I have no problem acknowledging the fact that his 1996 film "The Rock" is quite a fun, entertaining escapism thriller. Even though it was slightly too long and had a couple of unnecessary action sequences it was fairly exciting and had Sean Connery and Nic Cage bringing a lot of charm to the picture. It also had fine actors such as Ed Harris, Philip Baker Hall and Michael Biehn in supporting roles.

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    Comment number 6.

    Sorry my appalling lack of proof reading in the above post. Lol.

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    Comment number 7.

    CHEERS Dr.K for failing to mention who posted their thoughts on the renaming of Inglorious!! Jeeeze, what does it take to get some recognition round here?!

    I jest. Just don't let it happen again...

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    Comment number 8.

    Michael Bay films are the cinematic equivalent of fireworks displays. I can enjoy fireworks displays for their kinetic and aesthetic qualities, but I certainly wouldn't go looking for narrative, character development and plot, let alone depth or meaning in them...

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    Comment number 9.

    The Good Doctor , strikes again. Having the autear label placed on a talented filmaker can be leathal in its effect, it does create a egotistical method to filmaking and causes mental stress on the poor director and audience, to a certain extent it had a marked effect on Hitchcock, his later films were not as interesting as his earlier films, with perhaps the exception of Marnie which was distrubing for a lot of other reasons. So the lesson is ,when a talented director comes along please dont put the autear theory in his head, it will all end in tears. Maybe some sort of autear rehab hospital could be built and we can send Boorman, Tarantino and Friedkin there, to get well.

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    Comment number 10.

    The Austin Powers franchise stuck to its guns when The Spy Who Shagged Me was released, it was the TV companies that censored the S word (and no it wasn't spy).

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    Comment number 11.

    As much as I love QT, he is too in love with himself. Nearly every line of dialouge he writes is coming straight from his mouth, and he is unable to extend his imagination to put his characters into someone elses shoes - they're all different versions of himself!

    But of course sometimes this works, in the case of Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs, Jackie Brown (and I admit to quite liking Kill Bill as well).

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    Comment number 12.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why do I do it. Each and every time I go to QT film I hope for a return to form. After about 30 minutes, I then start to think, 'god I am bored, but it might get better' by an 50 minutes I am thinking 'I paid money to see this film, if I walk out now I would be giving the cinema money for nothing'. 1hr 10 minute 'QT directs like a student fanboy' 1hr 30 minutes 'omg I have found 4 jokes funny' Film ends 'Oh dear, another shitty QT film that chrishes a little bit more of my soul'.

    Inglorious Basterds: 1/2 boring, 1/4 predictable, 1/4 of merchantable quality.

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    Comment number 13.

    Firstly, I didn’t like Death Proof. I think Tarantino’s project with Larry Bishop – Hell Ride - was ‘better’ than Death Proof, in that it had the pretence to be as bad and hammy as the Grindhouse films actually were, rather than Tarantino’s half-arsed compromises and suffering script that demean the whole Rodriguez-Grindhouse project. I did however like both ‘episodes’ of Kill Bill, though they were overly self-indulgent as well.
    In regards to Inglourious Basterds, I can see how Tarantino has tried to return to ‘safer ground’ e.g. the film has a novelistic-interwoven, Pulp Fiction-esque plot (from what I’ve heard). However, I hate the way Tarantino seems to be in denial – in Sight & Sound for instance he rejects the magazines previous ascribed elements of pastiche in Tarantino’s work (paradoxically often referenced by Tarantino himself1). Tarantino then claims critics are playing safe and are being revisionist when they say Jackie Brown is his best film, though conversely it’s Tarantino who is being revisionist as Reservoir Dogs was a ‘men on a mission’ film (so Basterds isn’t really his first just as Reservoir Dogs wasn’t really his ‘1st film’). Tarantino has even taken to renouncing his video-shop, fan-boy past and apparent filmic emulation of Brian de Palma.
    Tarantino is even trying to stamp out speculation over pastiche in his films in various ways e.g. claiming he would have come up with shots even if he hadn’t seen them in films by de Palma, Scorsese, hawks or ford first, as well as distancing Basterds from the original Bastards through the guise of ingratiated typos.
    I think we should hope Tarantino is more like Scorcese rather than falling into the ‘nexus’ that de Palma and Boorman fell into. I feel anxious about seeing le basterds on film!

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    Comment number 14.

    Interesting points as always, Mark...

    Except I REALLY think that it's the marketing people, not Tarantino himself who shortened the movie title into "Inglourious". Tarantino has always preferred two-word titles. So let's not accuse the man falsely here.

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    Comment number 15.

    As i watch this blog theres an interview with Tarntino on the TV and they're blurring the movie title. Now its called Inglourious! I never quite understand the trouble with bad language. Just walk down the street and you hear much worse.

    Anyway to the film. Which i saw last night. Very 00's Tarantino but has a lot more interesting characters than Kill Bill or Death Proof. The movie has some fantastic performances from the cast especially Christoph Waltz and Mélanie Laurent. Even Brad Pitt gets some great lines!!! Add to that the excellent direction by QT. I saw some flashes of Hitchcock and Sergio Leone. The man knows how to move the camera! No hand held rubbish!!!! Not his best but really interesting to watch. Gotta be seen on the big screen!

    Did i hear Mr Kermode say something good about Michael Bay???? There may be chance to convert him! When Transformers 3 comes out i'm sure he'll give it 5 stars and recommend every one to see it.....

    Mark Kermode is a Michael Bay fan.

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    Comment number 16.

    Already previously mentioned above about Tarantino's quality being the soundtracks, i must agree as i find his biggest quality is his use of music. Although not a fan of Kill Bill or Death Proof the music used in RD, PF and QB twisted itself into the plot and the dialogue and comes out much different rather than if you just played the pop songs regarded on your stereo.

    Plus looking forward to seeing inglorious ****erds because as you said even if i think it's alwful it's still going to be much more interesting than most current releases.

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    Comment number 17.

    Yesterday, I went to see Ingloriuos Basterds. This feelings I got from the movie were conflicted. Compared to what else I had seen this year, it was at least interesting. I found myself in some strange way enjoying it, and at the same time, thnking this is a mess. It didnt know what it wanted to be, a melodrama, a exploitation movie, or a war film. Confused and Conflicted. I dont think this is a return to form for Q.T, but its not the misguided mes that was Death Proof. I write this as I have just watched The Excorsist on dvd, good film, the greatest film ever made....not for me.

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    Comment number 18.

    As someone who only came of age in the 2000's I never experienced Tarantinomania the first time round. I did however, swiftly devour Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs as soon as I was old enough to blag buying them on DVD. What I cannot understand is everyone's aversion to Kill Bill V1/V2. I for one just find them fantastically entertaining, gloriously trashy and stylish films. I'm not really interested if QT 'could' make a more character driven film, because I enjoy KBV1/V2 for what they are - great fun.

    Let's give him a bit more credit - maybe I was QT's target audience, as the majority of people on here seem to be of the original Tarantino generation?

    (But Death Proof IS rubbish)

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    Comment number 19.

    QT has to big a head for my liking, that what ruined his film. It seem that he thought just beacaue Plup Fiction was iconic we would accept any s**t he shoveled out to us because it had the QT stamp of approvel. I mean the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique!?! What??
    Plus did you see him on jonathan ross?!?

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    Comment number 20.

    I found out the rather disturbing news the other day that Quentin is very good friends with Paul Thomas Anderson lets pray that Quentin's big chinned fan boy rubbish doesn't affect PT and causes him to instead of making films revolving around 1970s pornography that he will instead try to literally make a 1970s porno

 

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