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Friday 18 January 2013, 15:16

Mark Kermode Mark Kermode

I recently asked you whether all remakes, reboots, re-imaginings etc were rubbish? You responded in force - here I pick out some of your comments.

 

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    Comment number 21.

    I object when a brilliant, and universally agreed "classic" film is remade: The Wicker Man being a prime example. The remake does nothing, adds nothing... but I've no objection to remaking a rubbish film, and taking a chance on improving it. I recently watched Death Race, with Jason Statham, a remake of 1975's Death Race 2000, with David Carradine and Sly Stallone: the remake is, while by no means a brilliant film, far, far superior to the original.

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    Comment number 22.

    I agree that the Batman Reboot in the form of the Dark Knight was a good reboot of the brand, but only after the Joel Schuhmacher films. The Tim Burton films were and still are a great part of that franchise.

    Agree very much about the new Italian Job. Why would you remake that film unless its to be very obvious you want to harvest money.

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    Comment number 23.

    Re your critique of Les Mis
    This reminded me that if the critic is to succeed he must be an essential part of the symbiosis with the market place.

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    Comment number 24.

    Remake Tarkovsky? It's a bit like Woody Allen waking from a beautiful dream in which he's Ingmar Bergman, dream on...

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    Comment number 25.

    I just rememberred something. Aparently Disney (cashing in on the whole Pirates of the Caribbean scheme) are making a film based on 'Mr Toads Wild Ride' (a ride at disneyland based on their Wind in the Willows themed half of 'The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr Toad).
    So let me get this right...
    A film based on their ride which is based on their film version of a book. It's just getting ridiculous isn't it.

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    Comment number 26.

    I never saw the original 3:10 to Yuma but the more recent one was really a terrible film wrapped up in glamour.

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    Comment number 27.

    Off topic I know but can someone please explain to me why Mark is not presenting The Film Programme? There needs to be a petition. he is the only man on this planet worthy of Barry Norman's mantle. What are the hellpiece are the BBC THINKING?

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    Comment number 28.

    Given its release last Monday I'm surprised "Dredd" hasn't been mentioned as an example of a successful reinterpretation. Of course it doesn't really "reinterpret" anything as, at its core, the character of Dredd in the film exactly the same as the character of Dredd in the comics. I suppose what this film demonstrates is if the original concept is strong enough, and is the thing which attracted the attention of movie makers in the first place, then why change it? Don't you just end up with something which has the name, but bares little resemblance to the source, beyond the title? in which case what is the point? See also "Thunderbirds", "The Avengers" (no the other one), "The Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy", "Miami Vice", "Starsky & Hutch" and a list of others which is too long and too depressing to recount.

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    Comment number 29.

    Please someone stop Suspiria, there's simply nothing to be improved and absolutely no reason for a remake. It's like repainting the Mona Lisa, giving her red hair and gluing it to the wall beside the original.

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    Comment number 30.

    I'm only going to be this pedantic because I know that Mark would do it himself. The 2011 'The Thing' wasn't a remake, it was a prequel to the 1981 version. God knows why the gave the prequel the same name as the movie it was preempting, though.

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    Comment number 31.

    Not sure if anyone mentioned The Children's Hour by Lillian Hellman which was a remake of his own film These Three, not seen These Three so someone may have to tell me if its a poor or better film but The Children's Hour is brilliant.

    Another for me would be 13 Assassins by takashi miike again having not seeing the original but I think the remake is supposed to be much better than the original.

    I also have a interesting question that what about that about a remake or whatever that matches its remake and they both stand equal as with Yojimbo and A Fist for of Dollar which are both brilliant films.

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    Comment number 32.

    sorry for typo on fistful of dollars

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    Comment number 33.

    Suspiria re-make oh no that really is bad news !! Shocked by NickyDrinks post !

    By the way does anybody know if it is Willem Dafoe voicing the Polar Bear in the B**** E** adverts, say it ain't so !

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    Comment number 34.

    You ask whether all reboots, remakes etc are rubbish.

    The answer is that this is of course a silly question. You may as well ask whether all films are rubbish. Some are good, some are bad. Quality remakes will stand up in their own right, in spite of the quality of the original. They will always of course end up being compared to the original; the 'It's not as good as the original' comment perhaps hints more at the lazy critic?

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    Comment number 36.

    French film Le Diner de Cons is fantastic. It's witty, mean-spirited but quite gleeful despite that. It was remade not long ago with Paul Rudd and Steve Carell as Dinner for Schmucks and it was... mean-spirited. Also avoid the English-dubbed version of the original, which is horrendously horrible.

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    Comment number 37.

    I wonder how much remakes are entangled with Hollywood Accounting. I wouldn't put it past those people to put a rights cost against the remake which is counted as income for the long-past film, paying off decades of notional interest on some supposed loss. Good or bad, the remake is a form of money laundering.

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    Comment number 38.

    Don't really agree with the Solaris remake response. I felt it was the space (umm. you know cinematically, not...you know) that sucked you into the ether that allowed the original it's expression. Dangerous Liasons (although it's been a while since I have seen it) was a fine remake. Worst for me was the butchering of, which I'm sure few will agree with, one of the best sub B movies Deathrace 2000. But then again stick Statham in a car or a movie and bingo! you've got s!£t! Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis double whammy remake/sequel (astroboy/metropolis) is a peice of visually stunning anime, but the thought of Oldboy getting the Hollywood do-over in complete ignorance of the trilogy shivers me timbers!

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    Comment number 39.

    No idea how so many remakes get the green light, considering the number of duds that emerge. Alfie, The Money Pit, Let Me In, Outland, Get Carter, Flight of the Phoenix, Rollerball - all stinkers over the years.
    So few are actually better, or at least bring a new perspective - Little Shop of Horrors, the Departed, Cape Fear, Scarface, I am Legend (and now I'm struggling).

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    Comment number 40.

    themaddogmax@31

    The two films you refer to These Three and The Children's Hour were adaptations of Lillian Hellman's stage play The Children's Hour, both screen versions were directed by William Wyler , whether two adaptations of the same play count as remakes is open to debate. I've seen These Three but not 'children's hour' and the lesbian relationship, which made the play such a sensation, was removed to conform with the Hays code. The film still works despite this as the drama is about the consequences of a lie. As to which is better, we'll both have to make our own minds up.

 

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