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Rebecca Denton, Online Exec | 21:00 UK time, Monday, 20 February 2012

 

 

 

 

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  • Comment number 1.

    Hi All. Fixing the image issue, will take 15 mins!

  • Comment number 2.

    nice....

  • Comment number 3.

    I like werido goth people

  • Comment number 4.

    ERR, well, err , unusual certainly

  • Comment number 5.

    Lovely. Isn't that the poem that Michaela read out (with movements!) in exchange for the (very reasonably priced) cheeseburger?

  • Comment number 6.

    3- so do I, we need more Michaela in BH.

    5- yeah I think it is, and I would have definitely of given her a Cheeseburger for that it was so funny :)

  • Comment number 7.

    I can't say I was Michaela's biggest fan but i'm glad she found Regus.

    I love how Hal said, 'Heres an idea. Order something or get out'. when she called Tom simple.

    It showed he had Toms back. Tom is so naive and innocent he didn't deserve that. Reminded me of Steinbecks 'Of mice and men'.

  • Comment number 8.

    I know she wasn't everyone's cup of tea but I loved Michaela. I thought she played it just right and I absolutely loved her throwing the money at Hal (I think he had a chest protector on - you could hear the coins hit off it). Anyway I say Well Done Laura - You Did Good! Hope you come back with Regus for S5 if not sooner!

  • Comment number 9.

    Evening All! Evening Mods!

    Soooo... just picking up where the last blog left off....

    I thought that when Fergus called Hal 'Lord' or 'my Lord' he did it in a slightly mocking, almost sneering, way at first. And then he saw the look in Hal's eyes and decided not to push it. So I am going with those that said Hal somehow 'became' a Lord, because Hal did say in the prequel that he was born in a brothel and didn't know his father. But that doesn't tie in with the 'Lord Harry' title or Hal's near break-down in the café when Michaela throws money at him and his speech then. But neither of these things tie in with the 'competition' as to who has done the worst job - Hal mentioned some really bad jobs there! But ultimately, and this is the fun bit, there is just soooo much to find out about Hal! Complexity of characterisation is what Lord Toby does best.
    No way are we ever going to find out everything we want to know about Hal in this Series alone.

  • Comment number 10.

    I am rewatching the episode and when Fergus lists the vampires at the beginning of the episode he mentions Mr Snow but not as Hal's maker. Could it be that his maker is even older than Mr Snow? Wouldn't it be cool if it was Count Dracula himself?

  • Comment number 11.

    Just seen that green box message again... hhhmmm... I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that some of our blogs have been 'closed for comments'?

    It's not really fair on the BH fans in USA/Canada - they don't see the first Ep until this Sunday and they have stayed away from the Blog because of spoilers. They will want to comment when they get here and won't be able to... I know the BBC don't like to keep a lot of Blogs open at the same time because Mods are pretty stretched - but we've always been fairly good here - I mean in the last 4 years there has only ever been one spammer banned and in comparrison to other Blogs that's amazing. And in all that time only one Blog was closed for comments. Just saying..... I don't know how these things work - but if the BBCUK make money from BBCA and BBCAustralia/NZ and by Netflix and selling it to other countries - then surely everyone should get to see the whole package? Oh well, like I said, don't really know how this business works...

    Anyway, where was I? Oh yes, love the idea that Cutler was sired by Wydham - (but not Hal) just love it - Cutler seems to be the type and I also like the idea that vamps were just 'putting up with him' because of that. It now makes more sense as to why Fergus and crew just 'ate the focus group' and Cutler was helpless. But I agree that we need to know a bit more about him - he justs seems like a bit of a non-entity to me right now. I don't really 'get' him.

  • Comment number 12.

    Echoes

    of Herrick when Hal says I am not the man I used to be...

    Annie now with two powers: able to transfer her memory and do not tell me she is not able to do that on reverse. Read auras and minds

    Tom being into bees

    Regus finally able to score ... well woon, clearly his jeans are going to be less vulnerable.

    Michaela ; well she had to become un-dead and she knew too much and loved Ivan and Daisy touch.

    Loved the old lady at the end, quiet dignity , not worried at all to cross over, eager to carry on her long life in the most normal of way. A very subliminal message from TW.

    And a final bow to the previous trio. 'con men' says Hal, good bye Real Hustle when a vampire and a werewolf were trying to get a house, a job and a tv license and were dressed in 'other people's clothes'. Con men, George who pretended not to be a werewolf , who denied the wolf and Mitchell who looked for salvation. You are a shark, be a shark said Herrick. Annie who tried so much; not to be a ghost, not to remember reality, prefering lies in season 1, unsure about being a ghost and finally looking for love, a dead woman for an un-dead man. Madness.
    New supernatural trinity, wiser.

    Now it is the turn of the Antique Roadshow, with ancient scrolls, a werewolf who has no shame or fear of being what he is anf why should he. Tom is a nice guy. Annie accepts she is a spirit and now tries to be an immaculate protective holy ghost as for Hal, his past is doomed to haunt him.

    TW has really opened a new arc in his universe. Still, we are missing a new kind of sort of supernatural...

  • Comment number 13.

    113. @ BigBadDog last blog

    EveS nemsis w/burnt arm - ?

    Tom's 'swimming pool'? Sure hes mentioned it in previous ep:
    - think Bombs (just add chip oil) could be in mind with the Muriatic acid,
    - Love the pool filled with Holy water idea or a moat full around HH. (where would he get so much H/water? from the cathedral when he was there nickin' Lead off the Roof

    Tom and Hal are a great pair, remind me of my elder cubs: Squabling one minute then defending each other the next.

  • Comment number 14.

    I did wonder if we'd see any more of this journal! Great stuff.

    Posted this in the Live Blog comments as well but just to shamelessly plug further - my full review of The Graveyard Shift here - http://bit.ly/xsoi0j

    Got to admit in all honesty, I thought it was a bit too slow at first, but by the end it had completely won me over, great humour and really strengthened the relationships between the characters. Michaela was a bit *too* much on occasion for me, fitting with the tone of the episode, but not much depth to her. Didn't dislike her but didn't love her either basically!
    Really loving Lord Harry though!

    I did do my review last week as well, a bit later than normal thanks to that pesky real life 'job' thing, but then promptly forgot to post it anywhere. So if anyone wants to check that out too see here --> http://bit.ly/wPvxpT

  • Comment number 15.

    @lycan

    firstly is the nemesis the ennemy of the saviour?
    could be someone else
    Nemesis may refer to:

    Nemesis (mythology), in Greek mythology, a spirit of divine retribution against those who succumb to hubris
    Archenemy, the principal enemy of a character in a work of fiction
    NOT EXACTLY THE SAME THING

    AS FOR THE SEQUENCE
    fire-past tense- arm
    could be a burnt arm or an arm which has held fire in the past, holding a tire, using a gun etc

  • Comment number 16.

    and before going to bed
    feeling -really-sorry for anyone having first to 'feed' Michaela even when she sports her Bride of Frankenstein hairdo and to listen to her poems as the last thing one ever hears. Sorry Regus, widower-hood might be just the right thing for you.
    Talk about a double whammy!

  • Comment number 17.

    12 - Saint - oh yesss - loved the 'echoes from the past' in Ep 3... they were funny, interesting, sad, funny, bleak, hilarious and heart-breaking (The Real Hustle *sob*).

    13 - Cornish Doggie - yep was going to say that next - no-one has mentioned the fact that Tom keeps on and on about making bombs... but I think that either Tom or Hal will get a burnt arm - BUT I also agree that 'burnt arm' refers to something different. We'll never see it, though. Did any of us get that Regus and Michaela would walk off into the sunset together from the cartoon drawing? Nope.

    continued...

    I thought Lenora Crichlow was excellent in this Ep. And all her scenes were so well-written - really great work from the writer Jamie Mathieson - and I hope he writes more Eps. But Mark Williams as Regus was wonderful! And so funny!

    Best bits for me were:

    Regus: " You love a doorstep row, dun't yer? Do you really want to go into this right now?"

    Annie: "Before I go into the weird vampire's house - yes!"

    -----

    Regus: "You need to get out of town, especially as they know she's alive. You need to go and hide somewhere in the middle of nowhere - go to Bangor..."

    haahhahahhhhaaaaaa! That last one was THE line of the Ep for me! I bet the script editor Laura Cotton put that one in!

  • Comment number 18.

    Man with a burnt arm? Ivan!

    Something to ponder....

  • Comment number 19.

    18 Mikey! OMG! YESSSSSSSSS! Now that would be good! But sadly, don't think so (sorry everyone at the DVLA - don't build your hopes up).
    But you are right about something - we've had a bomb blowing up vampires and now we suspect that we might have another - but are they connected in some way... And anyway - who taught Tom to make bombs? Where did that come from? But there has been a reference in every Ep so far and Tom's prequel about - dum dum durrrrhhhhhhhhhh The Bomb.

  • Comment number 20.

    20- they're gonna blow up the old ones!!

  • Comment number 21.

    20 - Okay - now we're cooking with gas! (sorry about ...) :D
    No - got to be more to it than that... We'll find out!

    Ryan from the BH Crew has just sent this pic of filming Hal and Tom in the café:

    http://t.co/lUCxX15A

    Thank you Ryan! x

  • Comment number 22.

    21- cool pic. It does bug me that the cafe is in Newport though!!

  • Comment number 23.

    22 - Huh? But I thought the café WAS in Cardiff. Caradoc said it was in Cardiff (didn't he?), and he should know. Where did you get Newport from? Not from BH, 'cos café owner says the café is in Cardiff. But anyhow, different locations are used all the time for different things in filming a show...

    Right. Off to bed... although might just pop by iplayer on the way..... :D

  • Comment number 24.

    So glad that Regus got his Michaela! He really is a nerd, just instead of being a geeky teenager he's a 400 year old vampire. Think they will be a perfect match.

    Didn't expect Hal to be Fergus maker, but I have been thinking, and still thinks, that he might be Cutler's maker. If he is that could explain a bit of the rivality we saw between Fergus and Cutler, both trying to be the "best" heir.

    I do agree with those thinking that Hal's maker was Mr Snow, that would explain why he isn't scared of Hal as the rest.

    Also noticed that the next episode is called "A Spectre Calls". And yes, spectre could just be another word for ghost, but after searching it on wikipedia I'm thinking it might be a clue about Kirby. As people have mentioned there are a lot of references to different superheroes/comics in BH and I think this might be another one : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_%28comics%29 Of course I don't think it's gonna be the Spectre from DC Comics showing up, but there could be some clues as to who Kirby is and what he wants.

    Saw in the comments on one of the blogs that someone else as well have finally noticed that future woman's door is the door to HH.

    Really liked the touch with the Real Hustle at the end of the episode.

  • Comment number 25.

    Oh, and I noticed that one of the later episodes is called Puppy Love, I really hope that means that sweet Tom finally meets the right girl!

  • Comment number 26.

    Wallet with a Skull and something Forever

    This is a Teenage Diary that over the years has evolved - If it wasn't for Regis I can't help feeling that Gilbert would ave a friend.

  • Comment number 27.

    Puppy love - also known as first love or infatuation.

    I don't think Tom is going to meet his Nina but he will believe that he has. After all you heard his bedtime story, also how he acted around Nina it will be an event that shapes him and if she is his Nina, it will be a while before she calls him her Tom.

    I hope very strongly that the Vampires don't interfere.

  • Comment number 28.

    Morning All.

    Did anyone see Gina Bramhill - The Woman on Coronation Street last night?

    Not that i watch it of course. *ahem*

  • Comment number 29.

    @23_ Sorry Manc I said a while back that the cafe is in NEWPORT & most of the filming in ep. 3 is in Newport.
    I know because I used it almost everyday when I worked on the dock & since its re-opened I usually pop in on a sunday morning for breakfast !!!!
    The Fergus & Annie scene was in Tredegar Park & when they were running from Fergus & his cronies they ran right past the pub that my mam grew up in....!!!!
    Despite Mikey's apparent dislike of my home town.(LOLOLOLOLOL) I think he's onto something with the Ivan thing , It crossed my mind as well.....!!!!

  • Comment number 30.

    29- HAH!!! I don't dislike Newport, i've stayed there many times for gigs. My annoyance is that it's not local to Barry, it's 20-30 miles away. So they ran from the cafe to HH. Pretty impressive! I'm just amazed that this was overlooked. Quite why they couldn't work in Barry I dunno :-/

  • Comment number 31.

    If the next episode is titled "A Spectre Calls", then are we about to meet our first Ghoul? Inspector Goole (note the wordplay) is the central character in Priestley's "An Inspector Calls" and it turns out he's a kind of avenging angel figure. The character can also prophesy future events - in Priestley's case it was WWI ("Fire and blood and anguish") but with the future events we've already seen in episode 1.........

  • Comment number 32.

    I posted a pic on one of the blogs showing me sat in the cafe the morning before Ep1 was aired !!!!

  • Comment number 33.

    @30 - The BBC has done a fair bit of filming in and around Newport as I can remember Dr.Who being filmed down on the Dock & I think Torchwood has done a bit here too. I would think that Newport had scene suitability & availability that Barry didnt. The cafe for example was closed for a while before they started filming & places featured like the dock & Tredegar park are easily closed off for filming.....
    Where are you from Mikey & where have you played in Newport as I might well have watched you !!!!

  • Comment number 34.

    29/30 Thanks guys - Newport it is then. The only reason I can think of for not shooting in Barry will be because of money, perhaps Mikey, although when BH moved to HH in Barry, they did say it was quite difficult at first because they kept bumping into other crews from other shows there.

    I loved the fact that Annie mentioned that she didn't believe in prophesies, referring to that 'self-fulfilling prophesy'.

    Morning All! Morning Mods!

  • Comment number 35.

    Pondering - shapeshifting - can ghosts shapeshift or take on other guises? Thinking about Kirby the new ghost, future women in purgatory? As she has slipped through the door, could she possibly change her appearance in order to get close to Eve (befriend Annie?) - just thoughts, nothing more.

    Also Kirby gives me the creeps - too much like a David Walliams character from Little Britain for my liking.

  • Comment number 36.

    Ryan from the crew has just sent this pic *coughs* - one for the ladies....

    http://t.co/3w6LqSu5

    That's lovely! Thank you Ryan!

  • Comment number 37.

    Morning Bloggers! Morning Mods! Morning Rebecca!

    The thing is, in Tom's prequel it says he's interviewed for a job in a small cafe in Barry. So even although the *real* cafe is in Newport it isn't actually meant to be there for script purposes, I don't think. Just saying..............

  • Comment number 38.

    going back to the nemesis thing, i mentioned in the last blog that it could be Tom having burned his arm on the chip fat in the cafe! what if it is this cutler fella?
    i think we will see this new supernatural in ep5 when Adam is in it. i red a review (or spoiler) that Adams teacher can see Annie so mabe she is the supernatural. could she be an angel? cos teachers are wonderful aren't they! you have to have the patience of a saint! or just throwing this in the air, what if its Annie with her new developed powers. could she be a higher being-a super duper ghostie?

  • Comment number 39.

    37 - But you can't picture that it's in Barry because of the huge Newport bridge outside the window. I know i know.... I can believe in the supernatural for the sake of a programme but not the location of a cafe(!). Fair enough it's filmed in Newport but AT LEAST pretend it's in Barry!!!!

  • Comment number 40.

    Manc - thanks for passing pics on. I am not liking Hal's moustache at all - not nearly as good as mine!

    37 - :-)

    35 - How does Kirby know to mention that he's been sent by Nina, I wonder? As for Eve shapeshifting, would she need to. No-one would know who she was anyway, would they?

    Was thinking about the scrolls. The sign which appeares to show a female pregnant with twins. What if it isn't twins as such but two children born at the same time but to different mothers? One good, one bad. Maybe Future Lady isn't Eve at all but the other *twin*. If so, is she the good or the bad?

  • Comment number 41.

    Sorry that should've been 39 not 37. I'm smiling at you Mikey.......

  • Comment number 42.

    there does seem to be lots of swimming pool references and its obvious that he is gathering things together to make bombs. mabe he is using the swimming pool as an excuse. bit fed up of the michaela pics now. i did really like her actually she was funny. but would like something fresh!

  • Comment number 43.

    MORNING, good morning to everyone and everybody. Panda blowing kisses.

    Have you noticed Regus gave the same longing look to the beach poster on the wall, as did Mitchell in the Lia episode. The poster is significant. Paradise Lost. No, I have not read Milton, but possibly there is something in it about the storyline...

    As for shapeshifting... Lia's surname, in case this was overlooked was Shaman. Shamans do shapeshifting. Her brother could 'feel' the future. Is it Lia's return? She would know about Nina etc. She knew how to tune her telly quite expertly. Her interventions caused many policemen deaths if you care to remember the sequences. Drive Mitchell mad and let the dices roll...

  • Comment number 44.

    The Nemesis of the saviour is going to task said saviour for her actions. It does not imply he or she is an ennemy.
    If Hal took care of Plague dead bodies, he would have been near pits and those bodies were covered by some crude chemical disinfectant like caustic soda like salpetre which can burn skin...

  • Comment number 45.

    44 - Hi Saint. I didn't notice any burn marks on his skin - sorry arms - on Sunday. Do you think I should check again? :-)

  • Comment number 46.

    An option,

    Tom's making anti Vamp bombs - check.

    So sets one off one Vamp survives and with what as a result of Tom's attack.

  • Comment number 47.

    43- I don't think Lia would try nasty revenge anymore. if she did influence anything this series it would be for positive reasons. She can see what her actions caused

  • Comment number 48.

    47 - Plus Mitchell is dead.

  • Comment number 49.

    Morning! Just for research purposes, I had another check and Hal's arms don't seem burnt. Quite happy to have another look, though... Thanks to Ryan for posting those photos!
    As the next episode title is a pun on 'An Inspector Calls', just thought it might be interesting to have a read of the plot of the original play:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inspector_Calls
    Have to say, this series is really shaping up well and look forward to finding out more about Hal and, of course, Cutler's plans!

  • Comment number 50.

    Ok so we've got fire, past tense, man and arm. So maybe a fire that happened in the past and has left the man (also past tense as he's now a ghost) with burns on his arms. Should we be checking Kirby's arms for burns do you think?

  • Comment number 51.

    With Fergus out of the way Cutler is going to be the man with the plan and his plan , as we know , Is to reveal the existence of WW's to the world.......I noticed a future episode is titled "Hold the front page" which I think could be a reference to Cutlers little WW movie. In the past any "revelations" about supernaturals would have been stifled by the old ones but if Cutler's shrewd enough he might be able to show them the relevance of revealing "Something worse" as a cover for the vampires final push to take the world.....
    Tom's little bomb project has been subtley included in episodes & prequels so it must have some real relevance & we know that explosions cause fire so I think our burned nemisis will be tied into to Tom's bomb(s) !!!!

  • Comment number 52.

    Oh what if Kirby is Nina's father (don't know if Kirby is his christian or surname). We know that Nina's surname is Pickering but that could be taken from her mother. Maybe Kirby knows about Nina's death because he is related to her. Maybe he was the one who inflicted the terrible burns on her stomach when she was just a baby - in the process burning his own arms. He dies soon afterwards - maybe at the hands of Nina's mother - and is now back to get revenge on Nina's child? Far fetched? Yup! Likely to be correct? No!!

  • Comment number 53.

    On the theme of Tom and bomb-making: wasn't there a comment on twitter from some of the crew over the summer that they had just finished the 'most explosive day of filming' ever? Sounds like we will be in for a treat at some point...

  • Comment number 54.

    Or then again, what if Nina has sent Kirby back? Why - surely not just to help Annie with the baby? There must be something more. I've given myself a headache.................!

    53 - I think they did and there have been too many mentions of cooking oil and bombs and now we've got some chemicals thrown in too. Yup looking good for a bit of a BBQ.

  • Comment number 55.

    Lia watches the gang - are you saying that Ghosts with eternity or what seems like it wouldn't be interested in three different supernaturals and maybe have a peek.

    Also proof that it's Nina 4 months of knowledge on Annie's part.

    Then there is always lying.

  • Comment number 56.

    54- maybe a BBQ but only a stake can kill vampires. Didn't Tom watch the first to series? :-P

  • Comment number 57.

    56 - But a lot of vamps were killed in the explosion and fire in the funeral parlour.

    55 - Ewan, don't quite understand your second comment. Could you explain, please?

    I don't think Kirby is there just out of curiousity. I think he will be bad news.

  • Comment number 58.

    Annie spent time with Nina for around 4 months most of that time for Nina was spent with George while Annie focused a lot on Mitchell. Then there is the fact Nina was not open about her past so the amount Annie could know about Nina would be limited.

    Nina is the one she knew least about therefore the one to say the message is from.

  • Comment number 59.

    57 - yeah they died. but they can be brought back in the same way that cara did for herrick

  • Comment number 60.

    59 - The police didn't know this only that they had to dispose or the bodies. Cremation is my guess so nothing left to resurrect.

  • Comment number 61.

    Happy Birthday Damien!! Let me see? 28 today? Is that right? have a great one!

  • Comment number 62.

    Afternoon! lots going on here.
    On the subject of Nina's burns. They were inflicted by a violent ex-boyfriend. It says so on her character info.

  • Comment number 63.

    We know Tom is interested in making bombs but perhaps the swimming pool ref refers to the pool where the dogfights were held in S3.

  • Comment number 64.

    Though I think any explosions will be around Newport Transporter Bridge or perhaps somewhere like the Old Corn Exchange in Cardiff.

  • Comment number 65.

    63. well spotted sea-otter, forgot bout cages in pools.
    Still think a pool full of Holy water for to chuck a Vamp or two in could be interesting - any one remember "Lost Boys"

    Just passing in lunch break, good to see a bit of normallity when T, A and E went shopping (some eps seem to have so much chaos you wander how they get time to shop.

    I dont envy Annie cleaning HH must be a Nightmare, isnt there some police-blood next to that dagger she deflected, shes pretty good at Staking now though. Glad shes got confidence in her "Boys".

  • Comment number 66.

    Hi Sea. You are, of course, correct about Nina's burns. I'm getting all carried away about this last set of clues that Regus gave Annie. In the pawn shop, Tom mentioned to Hal about building a swimming pool in the back garden - he mentioned rubber tubing.

    58 - Thanks Ewan, I get it now. But why would he need to mention Nina's name at all. Either she has sent him or he's up to no good - or both. I don't think it's just curiousity - he is here for a purpose.

    So the BT20 coroner is saying there is a cannibal link as the killer had human flesh in his stomach. Well that isn't true is it - the didn't get the killer. What's going on then?

  • Comment number 67.

    66. sasha - methinks a WW could be framed (i Think Ewan know his name..)

    Dying to See Toms Pool.

    New names for Cafe - "Toms Diner" or "Hals Hell" (Hal - "kill me now, Tell Annie I attacked you!! LOL)

  • Comment number 68.

    @sea
    excellent suggestion
    building a swimming pool might need a building application being granted
    and thus at risk of being found out
    now transforming the cage old pool into a decoy for unsuspected vampires that would be cunning and very good from Tom

  • Comment number 69.

    66 - In order to get his words listened to, I'm just a passing Ghost who wants you to turn on each other so listen to what I say - doesn't sound quite right.

    As for the BT20 developments. My guess is on the Previous blog post 104

  • Comment number 70.

    33- I live in Exeter, when I say gigs i meant other peoples and not my own. You don't wanna hear me sing!!!

    67- How about 'Hal's kitchen' ? :-P

  • Comment number 71.

    69 - LOL - yeah well you have a point there Ewan!

    Have checked previous blog and get where you're coming from. Was forgetting that the vamps are more or less clearing every *human* police person from the face of the earth (or the Bristol / Barry / Cardiff area anyway).

    It is a bit of a stretch thought to say publically that the murderer was a cannibal than to say he was a ww. Cannibal - disgusting but public would believe it. WW - not so much. Unless this would be the start of a long process of feeding the public duff info?

    My head hurts...........................

  • Comment number 72.

    That's why Cutler had the camera phone on George and Tom.

  • Comment number 73.

    BT20 coroner is saying there is a cannibal link as the killer had human flesh in his stomach. Well that isn't true is it - the didn't get the killer. What's going on then
    well two things
    the poor guy who got the label as bt20 was innocent. was he... unless he was another werewolf from another cage fight -sacrificed by his 'owners' and werewolves would have human flesh in their insides, right?
    secondly
    the BT20 victims had numerous bites and I remember a disturbing sight of a disemboweled victim. As such, it does not require a stretch of imagination to the coroner to sort of add up:
    victim- human bites and saliva
    supposed killer: same saliva- thanks to tweaked results by Cutler and human flesh inside- it was a werewolf after a change
    and Mitchell killed during a change right?

  • Comment number 74.

    Saint do you think I should put 104 onto this blog?

  • Comment number 75.

    73 - Hi Saint - think it's more likely to be your option:

    'the poor guy who got the label as bt20 was innocent. was he... unless he was another werewolf from another cage fight -sacrificed by his 'owners' and werewolves would have human flesh in their insides, right?'

  • Comment number 76.

    73- It's fascinating that the box tunnel 20 hasn't gone away. Really intrigued that they felt it had more to offer with the plotline.

    I also like they were they seemed to be answering most of our questions, what are they doing for money? is Eve registered? etc

  • Comment number 77.

    74. Yes... and where did you get the framed WWs name? was he the one mentioned by Annie? S3ep8

  • Comment number 78.

    Cutler's Plan.

    Now from the trail for next weeks episode I thought that perhaps 'Jason Healy' could have been a werewolf. That had been caged then released by the Vampires only to be gunned down. Now here is another point, Mitchell and Daisy had their little Rampage on a Full Moon. Now as we clever bloggers know if indeed the Box Tunnel had been the work of a Werewolf then things would have been different.

    1.Cloths found near the scene.
    2.When the Maintenance man arrived – if still at night a trapped werewolf would of torn his head off.
    3.Werewolves show up on camera – Strange shadowy form was not seen.
    4.The bodies were mutilated but not eaten.

    These are things that PR boy Cutler is going to change as I see it.

    1.Random report added to or evidence of cloths found. To explain how they found Mr Healy.
    2.Time of Maintenance man's arrival with possible removal of witness.
    3.A bit of Jiggery Pokery on the video.
    4.Reports change when the police change.

    This is what He's going to do. Shift the species blame. A few more well placed stories/set ups and we have torches and pitch forks pointing in the wrong direction as the back of the mob is picked off one by one.

    Additional thoughts.

    an episode title coming up is called
    "Hold the front page"

    Oh and a Re-watch = know the name.

  • Comment number 79.

    regarding ghost of last week, his clothes are really the seventies, so unlikely to be Nina's father,

  • Comment number 80.

    78= Ewan, even if this doesn't happen then you should definitely get a job as scriptwriter in series 5!

  • Comment number 81.

    I write my own stories.

    Thinking of which things to do hopefully before Friday I'll have something.

  • Comment number 82.

    104 yes please do

  • Comment number 83.

    79 - Yeah I was more thinking out loud with some of the posts and not making much sense :-)

  • Comment number 84.

    And the disemboweled man is really a gruesome artifact no one can overlook.

    @yekim

    why would Lia become nice???
    was she convinced by Annie or now has she closed the Mitchell file and opened the vampires files???
    Or possibly she considers G/N/A and thus Eve as partly responsible for her fate.
    See in the past the blood feuds/ faidhes from times past where endless wars were waged ending up by everybody dead
    Nina took George away from Micthell causing Mitchell to lose balance
    George was an unattantive friend
    Eve is their daughter, parents bad; child bad.
    Annie deserted Mitchell etc etc by now using her powers to realize Kemp had a poor aura and Lucy was lying and Annie could have rentaghosted and stopped the BT20....
    blood calling for more blood to be spilled

  • Comment number 85.

    Wish to thank Toby and writers/director/actors for giving one of my most loved shows a great new series. I too thought it would end after Mitchell, foolishly i forgot how great the writing on this progamme is. So glad i stuck with it, and enjoy reading all the great recommendations in TV mags like Radio Times. Think this is the only BBC 3 programme they recommend each week. Annie, Tom and Hal are great characters, and the writing is so clever, funny and smart. Also love the website:) So well done and thank you

  • Comment number 86.

    as for the man with the burnt arm or rather 'the arm which has seen fire' which could be anything from a firearm, fireman- ah???- or the arm which has set fire... to what???
    it means that the nemesis or the archenemy will have this condition, but it does not say when it happens
    so we can imagine it has not happen yet but when the saviour and his/her nemesis meet, there will be the trace of an old fire

    prophecies are by definition clear... on hindsight.

  • Comment number 87.

    pictures spoilers***********************warning*******************

    http://cultfix.co.uk/being-human-a-spectre-calls-pics-16575.htm

  • Comment number 88.

    86 But this is being human... Seeing fire. That could mean burnt. But, that could mean 'SUN'-burnt. Maybe. It's not likely, but in a way, it could be a man with terrible sunburn on his arms. It's a more comic idea that I had.

  • Comment number 89.

    more pics*****************handsome????***************you sure???***

    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/galleries/3039-being-human-first-look-series-4-episode-4-pics

  • Comment number 90.

    I think that The Old One (guest starring the excellent Mark Gatiss) is Hals Maker, and will need to feed from him to regain his youthful looks and teeth! Dread to think what cliffhanger will end this too short series, keep Annie, Hal and Tom for next series, and of course Eve:)

  • Comment number 91.

    ********more of the same**********************************

    about as bad as bouffant mitchell of 1969 and that pair of glasses.......

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s116/being-human/news/a367017/being-human-a-spectre-calls-in-pictures.html

  • Comment number 92.

    88 - Oh yes Robin! I like that idea. Right, my money's on either a firearm or sun-burn.

  • Comment number 93.

    61 - Sea, how did I miss that? I didn't know it was Damien's b'day. Thanks for telling us.

    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday to you
    Happy Birthday Dear Damien
    Happy Birthday To YOU!


    Hope you're having a lovely day.
    Sasha
    xxx

  • Comment number 94.

    mabe this kirby guy just befriended nina in the ghostie waiting room. mabe he understands supernatural things because he might be one or knows about it and finds out about eve through their conversation. he then waits for an opportunity to sneek through someones door to get up to no good!

  • Comment number 95.

    Happy Birthday Damien! *throws confetti*

    Okaaay - boy this discussion is good - about the 'man with the burnt arm' -

    It can't be a ghost and it can't be a vamp, can it? Because when you see a ghost you don't see the terrible injuries that killed them. You can't see how Annie's skull was cracked open or that young policeman in S3 Ep8 - the one covered in blood, killed by Herrick, the one that Annie goes through his door with to see Lia. Nada.
    And with vamps it's the same - you can't see Michaela's slashed neck once she is a vampire - so neither of these will show a burnt arm.

    So the 'man with a burnt arm' could only be a human or a werewolf orrrrrrrrrr a type 4 (zombie).

    88- Robin - that is genius.

    Ewan, let me see if I've got this right - Cutler's idea is to tell humans about Werewolves so that they will be so scared that they will actually ASK vamps to help rid the world of them. In order to do this, Cutler has taken the BT20 story and twisted it to suggest that Healy was actually a werewolf. Is that what you are saying? (you know I don't read spoilers - takes all the fun away from playing on the blog, soooo...).

  • Comment number 96.

    Then again - if we see a Troll with a burnt arm - rrrruuuuuunnnnnn!

    94 - yep - I buy that. Either that or this is all to do with Annie.

  • Comment number 97.

    It's guess work - Plus who said anything about announcing Vampires all I said was exposing Werewolves. Then Using the fact the Humans are distracted to make it too late to fight back.

  • Comment number 98.

    97. well if werewolves are exposed it makes sense that vampires would too. people are going to wonder what else could be out there and start to dig deep.

  • Comment number 99.

    Depends how Werewolves are exposed.

  • Comment number 100.

    Plus it's about working as quickly as possible after the exposure of the Werewolves.

 

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