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Rebecca Denton, Online Exec | 18:00 UK time, Tuesday, 14 February 2012

 

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  • Comment number 1.

    Love Annie!!

  • Comment number 2.

    Brilliant, I was hoping we would find out what Pearl's list was and I must say I do attend to agree with her on most parts :)

  • Comment number 3.

    Oh my god... I'm Pearl.

    (except for puns, punnily enough)

  • Comment number 4.

    Haha!...methinks this is a hate/want to avoid list put together by Lord Toby and Laura Cotton looking at some of her recent tweets . ....and what is wrong with Swindon?...ok....don't answer that....

    I'm with Pearl on the wanting to hoist up jeans hanging around the nether regions.....

    Thanks Rebecca and whoever filmed it (Mikey?) for this fun additional clip

  • Comment number 5.

    Love Annnie, don't think her and Pearl would have got on at all (especially if they had to lose the Palm trees for her!)

    Annie's Ceremony for Leo was tooo much like Regus baby slaying routine - i.e. making it up as you go along. Look forward to seeing her superpowers return.

    Also would like to see some more of Leos story, hes got good musical taste too, hope he has a prequel.

  • Comment number 6.

  • Comment number 7.

    4 - Yup there goes those nether regions again! LOL - can't abide that either! Do you think it's an age thing then?

  • Comment number 8.

    Party as a verb - can relate

  • Comment number 9.

    Freezes at slow walkers, can't get any further with it?

  • Comment number 10.

    Slow walkers...and the too low slung jeans....hate both... so can relate to those wholeheartedly.

  • Comment number 11.

    for some reason the YT vid stops at Tracy Beaker.

  • Comment number 12.

    Thankyou for more great blog content.
    Agree about wanting to hoist up jeans - although it is hilarious when they fall down...!!!!

  • Comment number 13.

    Can someone post what comes after Tracy Beaker please

  • Comment number 14.

    ROFL! LalsCooton had to have a hand in this!

  • Comment number 15.

    5 - I think Hal's prequel is kinda partly Leo's prequel too

  • Comment number 16.

    13 - Here you go Holly (not sure about the Christmas stamps bit - maybe someone else can confirm or correct that bit)

    Leo - Tracy Beaker....*party* being used as a verb....Jeremy Vine....Christmas stamps...tropical fish...celebrity columnists.......and charades

    Annie – Right...right...well...well that’s em, quite a lot

    Leo – And Swindon!

    Annie – Great

    Leo – You are a very lucky woman, Annie. What I wouldn’t give to spend eternity in her company.

    Annie – Yes..... well..... lucky me.....lucky Annie..............

  • Comment number 17.

    @hello bloggers

    well, another list from our wise Weregrandfather

    really, the list thing must be werewolfic in nature

    McNair and Tom so far have escaped that curse... or not

    Though Tom was able to say word for word Annie's Ten Commandments

    so yup

    werewolf equals list

  • Comment number 18.

    16- Thank you sasha

  • Comment number 19.

    Annie and Leo additional scene not the BBC YT but still no freezing towards the end

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj4rWFwu2Lw&feature=g-all-u&context=G2540aceFAAAAAAAABAA

  • Comment number 20.

    As for Leo, I must say if a patient turned to me as uptight, I would be really worried. He has reached breaking point. He is bounf to fall off the waggon. But I do not believe this has to do wiith his vampire nature.
    One does not get to the point of addiction without having inside something broken by life...

    OK, I admit. I must have a very shallow heart. I love Mitchell, but Hal is plainly tragic... and very attractive!
    I believe we should ask some extra funding to start a Hal-bot! The Tom-bot is almost completely ready and should be soon available at your nearest B&Q near the rubber tubbings.

  • Comment number 21.

    19- thanks that works a lot better

  • Comment number 22.

    19: Thanks, Ewan. Right with her on "party" being used as a verb. Ugh.

  • Comment number 23.

    18 - You are very welcome Holly!

    20 - So what is more important Saint - Hal being plainly tragic or very attractive? Answers on a postcard please. B&Q near the rubber tubings! ROFL.

  • Comment number 24.

    That's obviously why Leo changed beds. Noticed that he started off in the bed with the white headboard but when he was dying he was in bed with wooden headboard. Originally thought - oh there goes a continuity slip. Wrong - Pearl changed his bed and he just got back in the one nearest the door! How could I have doubted? :-)

  • Comment number 25.

    @sasha

    I like male characters to be tragic and attractive at the very same time

    like salt AND pepper, coffee AND croissant, fish AND chips , but no mushy peas which means tragic, attractive but not coarse. And our Hal is not coarse at all. Eating half a budgie's head off? glad Hal is not allergic to feathers...

  • Comment number 26.

    Oh God, it's that horrendous "comedy music" again. American shows are full of that, we don't need it here! Liked the scene, just not the music.

    Wonder is "party being used as a verb" is a reference to Black Books?

  • Comment number 27.

    Annie is brilliant this series. She makes me laugh in every scene.

  • Comment number 28.

    26 - Hello Mikey. I didn't even notice the music to be honest. What is Black Books?

    25 - Yeah, I mean if he'd eaten the whole head........well that would just have been a step too far! LOL!

  • Comment number 29.

    26. OMG I sincerely hope so! I'd love to think characters in one of my favourite shows watch another of my favourite shows ... It's like Inception! We need to go deeper - If Bernard Black i a fan of say ... Monty Python ... brain ...melting!

    And yeah that comedy music is awful, like we wouldn't know something funny's happening otherwise:P

  • Comment number 30.

    26- hadn't noticed the music really before but have rewatched it and now I can't stop listening to it :( I agree that it is really annoying!

  • Comment number 31.

    29 - OK - I'm away to have another look/listen because I really, really, wasn't aware of the music.

  • Comment number 32.

    Ok was more aware of the music because I was actually listening for it.....but it still didn't bother me. Think the scene needed something in the background - but that's just me, I suppose!

  • Comment number 33.

    29- that would be tv world within a tv world scenario! Heaven! Bernard Black as a vampire, manny as a werewold & Fran as a ghost!!!

    Sorry for moaning about the music, it just says "we're being funny now, do you get it?" BH doesn't need to do that

  • Comment number 34.

    28- Black Books is a comedy from ten years ago. Set in a book shop, very surreal but very funny.

  • Comment number 35.

    Thanks Ewan for a better link. I must confess I did not know who Joe Pasquale was, so I checked him out on YT - good heavens! And the jeans fixation is classic, who hasn't wanted to do the same. I'm going to miss Leo, we just got to know him, and love him, and poof he's gone

  • Comment number 36.

    Oh, and let's hope we see an extra vid with an Annie/Pearl face-off (ghost-off). Those two were a real odd couple

  • Comment number 37.

    33- haha! Black Books is awesome I really like the idea that they were vampire, werewolf and ghost, that would have been awesome :)

  • Comment number 38.

    35 - ROFHL - I wasn't going to mention Joe Pasquale !

  • Comment number 39.

    36 - Annie/Pearl face off. I think flickering lights would be the least of our worries. Good shout though - wonder if we'll get a ghost-off? I'd love it!

  • Comment number 40.

    36,39- Well we have had a wolf-off, and a vamp-off I think its about time we had a ghost-off.

  • Comment number 41.

    Rebeccaaaaaaaaaaaa. Hello......... Is Rebecca on holiday? Hope it's somewhere nice...... and we get pictures!?

  • Comment number 42.

    OMG ! Love Annie! Love Lenora! Love this script! Fab! Love you all!

  • Comment number 43.

    42 - Aww love you too Topo! Wish you'd come by more often! So Miss You!!!

  • Comment number 44.

    26/29/30 Agree about the awful music, all we 're missing is some fake canned laughter. Why is BH going for cheap comedy gags? Come on guys, you better than this, this isn't what we signed up for.

    And why does Annie sound like she is interviewing Leo? she looks very uncomfortable in her role

  • Comment number 45.

    44 - Emm - because she is. Don't think she looks uncomfortable at all. Think she looks like fantabulous Annie!

  • Comment number 46.

    @DRUNKKATH

    I maybe wrong, fact is I wish to be wrong, but did BBCAmerica finance or not BH
    knowing how many US shows do that type of 'canned laugh'
    I can't help wondering if we do not witness the consequence of outsourcing the funding of UK sHOWS
    STX still not going soft on the way Primeval was resurrected

  • Comment number 47.

    Ewan - Lana del Ray - Video games - another song I think you could do an absolutely fantabulous video to - when you have the time. Just sending you the vibe. I know you're busy but I did say when you have the time......:-)

  • Comment number 48.

    45. They are having a chat about a friend in their house not holding a formal interview for a job, aren't they?

    I don't want to be continously criticising things, maybe BH is a victim of it's own success, they have set the standard so high in S1 -3 that there is no way they can live up to it this series... ( just my opinion :-))

  • Comment number 49.

    46. I was more trying to get the point across that the vid looks like some cheap (bad) comedy sketch with canned laughter and awful music, than trying to start a debate on who financed what.

  • Comment number 50.

    48. Ignore me, am being pulled up for bad grammar...*its own success*..Better, dear?

    carry on...

  • Comment number 51.

    Evenin all, got to butt in and say don't think we should worry too much bout the music, I enjoyed the Sketch, shame Leo had to leave so soon - think he deserves his own prequel (prior to Hal and beyond maybe.... Please miss Blogstress!!)

    OH and I just rewatched Sundays ep so have a few ramblings......

  • Comment number 52.

    @drunkkath

    you cannot have your cake and eat it too

    you asked a legitimate question as the canned laugh

    canned laugh happens a lot in the US


    we know BBC US financed the show, or so we were told

    I query relative to your question if this americanization of our show is not a consequence

    this is not a debate on who finances what

    This is a possible answer to your question

    as for this video, you should be pleased the scene was edited

    it is like those dvsds with director cut etc
    sometimes they show scenes which do not add to the storyline
    are we interested by the deleted scene, naturally and quite happy to have been privy to it
    at the very same time, we are also approving the fact it is not included in the big picture

    as for the music, personnally, I think it is making much fuss about nothing relevant, but it is my opinion and you are entilted to yours

    bowing

  • Comment number 53.

    50 - Gawd help me if I'm pulled up for bad grammar Kath! But no I really don't think they are having an *informal chat* at all. This is a serious interview - Annie is looking to know everything about Pearl that she can get a hold of - Annie doesn't like Pearl at all - she dissed her tea for goodness sake. An informal chat - don't think so.

  • Comment number 54.

    52. I don't think I asked a question at all, I said that all that was missing was the canned laughter to go along with the awful music

    was a comment, no ? in sight..

  • Comment number 55.

    Sorry 53 should've linked in 48 too.

  • Comment number 56.

    53. But who holds a serious interview in their house, unless you are hiring staff?

    Couldn't she have sat him down ( with a cup of tea, obviously) and said:' so while Pearl's changing your sheets, tell me about her'

  • Comment number 57.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 58.

    @54

    Quote
    26/29/30 Agree about the awful music, all we 're missing is some fake canned laughter. Why is BH going for cheap comedy gags?
    End of quote

  • Comment number 59.

    Ewan - you not here then? Can't you at least admit you could do something with that track? Oh for goodness sake- admit it. You could do something absolutely fantastic with that track - and I sooooo wish you would! x

  • Comment number 60.

    56 - Yeah but you're puting a real life spin on this Kath -probably no-one but this isn't RL is BH!

  • Comment number 61.

    EWAN - you really not here then. You must be here - even if only reading it - at least tell me you're here. Don't you just love that track - go on, admit it you do - don't you?

  • Comment number 62.

    @lycan

    - " ... feeling about that face"

    - "listen, Rain Man" any wife who has seen her OH not stopping to a petrol station for thousand vacuous reasons could relate to Pearl

    -"Thomas, bring forth the Chosen One"... Thomas was bewildered and was not the only one

    -"we skipped lunch" just as good as Herrick's munchies

    "Sit in and self harm"

    I love Hal very dark sense of derision

  • Comment number 63.

    57. last line should've read Griffin, Fergus, Regus. Cutler and Hal – sounds like a kids TV fantasy story, where do these vamps get there names?

    Really want to know who Cutlers Dad was.. We havent had any real Female Vamps have we? (none that stayed round I mean)

    we've established Comedy music out of favour.. but could someone PLEASE tell what Toms opening Song was? Thank you x

  • Comment number 64.

    One of the stand out comedy moments in the earlier series, is the 'moving The Real Hustle' scene. Is there music there to underscore the humour? No. Is it necessary? Not really. Do Americans need comedy music to know that this is a comedy scene? Do Americans expect this in their shows, as Saint infers?

    (52: It seems odd, Saint, to say "you should be pleased" in the same post as "you are entitled to your opinion".)

    RealMitchell has previously said that she felt the music played against George's death scene, making it less emotional for her. Does anyone have a reason/ insight why "A Wonderful Thing" (the theme that accompanies Nina telephoning George to tell him she's left, Lauren's death and, of course, Mitchell's death) was not used at this point? It's such an emotional piece of music and, from its use in the series, quite iconic.

  • Comment number 65.

    63 - Yeah but I love being out of step with everyone. I really didn't see what the problem was about the *comedy music*. Tom's opening song - not sure what you are referring to there Lycan.

  • Comment number 66.

    58. Ah I see, was more a question borne out of frustration to PTB than one I was expecting any bloggers to answer

    60. RL spin? I seem to recall discussions about Annie's lack of grieving this morning being compared to RL situations. Do the same rules not apply here?

  • Comment number 67.

    65. Sash... the Song played when Tom was Sneaking back into HH.

    62. Stx "Sit in and self harm" and "are we done flirting" LOL

  • Comment number 68.

    Haha I didn't noticed the music until I went back and re-watched it again. It is quite bothersome but I can't say that I have ever noticed it in the show.

    I did find this scene hilarious, though. With or without the music ;)

  • Comment number 69.

    66- Please don't even go there Kath - that really is just getting way too personal. I'd have thought you'd have got that by reading the post. Ok maybe not.

    64 - Hello you. Good gawd I can't remenber the music that was played againt any death scene. I'd really need to go check that and at this point, I can't be bothered doing it. Can you even give me a clue as to where I should start?

  • Comment number 70.

    64- I can't recall what the music for George's death was. I guess they don't wanted to repeat the music all the time which is understandable. there's a good 5 or 6 songs off the soundtrack they use a lot.

    64- In the grand scheme of things, does it matter about the comedy music? Not really. I just find it too imposing. maybe if it was quieter I wouldn't mind so much. Thinking of series 1 scenes like "The Wolf Was In Me" or George treating Bernie like a two year old. No music at all. It wasn't needed.

  • Comment number 71.

    69. I was not having a go at you Sasha, there were many other people commenting on how Annie should have reacted.

    I did read your post and am very sorry to hear your story. I apologise if it came across as me being insensitive, it was not meant that way

  • Comment number 72.

    Anyone fancy a drink I could murder a Can of Laughter........hehehehehe!
    night YAWWWWWWWWWWWWL!

  • Comment number 73.

    69. Well, the music played with George's death is different to the music played at Mitchell's death. Do I really need to provide episode timings? lol

    Btw, Sasha, I watched the clip that we talked about this morning. I can see where you're coming from but I don't entirely agree. If Tom is referring to George's death, Annie doesn't seem to register that she understands this before carrying on. I think we need a look to show that this is actually her not dealing with her grief. That's all I ask, in this regard.

  • Comment number 74.

    73 - EdwardGeoge, if you can see where I am coming from I don't need anything else at this point. Quite frankly I'd hate if it we agreed! Another point of view is all I ask! I want to be challenged by the program - I don't think any of us need people agreeing about the things we say for the sake of it.

    BUT I would like links to the music you refer to because I am a very lazy Sasha!

  • Comment number 75.

    74. That might involve posting links to BBC/BH copyright material which seems a bit cheeky on a BBC/BH blog: I want them to get the revenue to make more and richer programmes! No doubt you could find it on various sites by searching for "A Wonderful Thing".

    Although if it helps, George dies at the end of S4E1; Mitchell dies at the end of S3E8 ;-)

  • Comment number 76.

    light hearted music matched a light hearted scene i thought .

    as for Annie not showing her grief by wailing about all over the shop , well I for one am thankful for that . I was already an emotional wreck after Georges grief and subsequent demise last week - another week of sobbing was not on the "to do" list for this kid !

  • Comment number 77.

    75 - Thank you - I'm sure I'll get it from that. x

  • Comment number 78.

    76. I don't think anyone has advocated seeing Annie "wailing about all over the shop" but if you can find me a comment that proves me wrong, I'll be happy to admit it. There are though plenty of comments that seem to suggest that bawling and wailing is what people have been arguing for and want to see, but I think that is a distortion and exaggeration of that argument.

    77. A pleasure.

  • Comment number 79.

    Is this a blog for fans of Being Human UK or is it glorified tumblr? Maybe BH should rename it "**** Yeah Being Human"!

    Why do we all have to love the same things about the show?

    As far as I know the show's writers aren't on the blog. Why does it seem that some take comments so personally?

    If I wanted to see US style telly we have at least 500 channels to choose from. Only one beeb. Here I was thinking though BBC has an A at the end it was still mainly British..learnes something new today.

    Some of us are less than pleases with the turn the show has taken. It seems to want to be a comedy instead of a dramatic series with great comic moments.

    I was not happy with th elast series as Annie did seem to be to much on the sid eof stupid. I love Lenora and loved Annie. Not a huge Annie fant at the mo. There is a videos of LC S1 saying she loved Annie as she wasn't wet. She was volnerable, yet strong. Not silly. I wonder if she feels the same about her?

    Breaks my heart :(

  • Comment number 80.

    79. I don't think we do "all have to love the same things" as long as we can discuss and argue them without being disrespectful or personal, and that's not always been the case recently.

  • Comment number 81.

    I think we all need to agree to disagree. Or I'll be forced to sharpen my claws!!!

    There's always gonna be elements of the show that we disagree on, surely that what makes BH the brilliant show that it is.

    You can't please all the people all the time.

    As for this clip, i loved it, music or not. Gotta love Annie! Lenora Crichlow brings so much to Annie with just a raised eyebrow or pause. Her comic timing is impeccable as are her dramatic scenes. We've not seen the best of Annie yet and i think there's plenty more to come. Watch this space...

    As for Hals letter of apology, i thought that was a brilliant piece of writing. It gives Hals persona a bit more life having only saw him on screen for a full episode. Both hilarious and unnerving! Credit to Damian Molony for bringing Hal to life. I thought his speech in the pawn shop was pretty chilling.

    Btw. The name 'Hal' means both 'ruler of his house' and 'war chief'. Something to think about as we watch Hal become more accustomed to the house and those around him.

    Apologies for the long ramble, i've not posted on the blog for a few days.

    It was a particularly hairy full moon for me last week!

  • Comment number 82.

    63 @ lycan

    Toms opening music was 'Dog Scratched Ear' by Henry's Funeral Shoe.

    Nice tune!

  • Comment number 83.

    81 Hello BigBadDog - so Hal means "ruler of his house" and "war chief". The implications of both those are somewhat worrying. Just keep thinking George must be rolling over in his grave at Annie letting another vampire in the house.

  • Comment number 84.

    And Rofl at the 'particularly hairy full moon'. Some more hairy than others then?

  • Comment number 85.

    80-Respect is a wonderful thing.

    81-Think wolfing out without a full moon may be fatal.
    lol We can't have that.

    Hiya Sage. I have asked before in one of the previous blogs...Do we know is the legal resident of HH?

  • Comment number 86.

    Yummy!
    I don't think it has been spelled out who is legally the tenant now. I suppose Tom must be. Or else they just haven't bothered to inform the landlord that the legal tenants have died ;)

  • Comment number 87.

    George killing Wyndham needs to be explained logically to me.I`ll sit down and strap myself in,this should be good.And begin.

  • Comment number 88.

    As for "a wonderful thing": now that you've mentioned it, it would have been comming to a full circle had they also used this piece of music for George's death scene. I see nothing wrong with repeating what's good.
    Music sets the scene in a way the conscious mind is unable to grab the
    finer points.

    All the emotion we felt for the characters dying/going through difficult times combined with that heart-wrenching music just displayed them even more as connected to the same inner circle of our affection.
    And George was without a doubt right at the centre of our love.

    The makers of Lost did it, too. They always used "Life and death" at moments of pure bittersweet feelings and I for one never grew tired of it. I still can't listen to it today without getting emotional.

  • Comment number 89.

    Re: this scene's music: a) it's been on the show before, I'm sure of it
    b) I think it's mainly there to highlight the sadder (yearning) music at the end when Leo says he'd give anything to spend eternity with Pearl, etc.

    Re: George death music: I don't think that "A Wonderful Thing" is long enough to fit the entire sequence (George's actual death, Future Woman getting stabbed, then all the cuts between George's passing-over - appropriate for a Jew isn't it? - and FW's passing-over AND some bits of The Other Trinity). They could have done with using a portion of it when George actually went through the door though (same as they used a portion when Mitchell was staked), I agree. I mean, Jimmy the theatre ghost was honoured with this track and George wasn't?

    Re: Annie's behaviour in this scene: seems pretty normal for someone a) talking to a person they don't know very well, b) about someone they don't really like, c) about a slightly delicate subject, d) concentrating on making a written list at the same time.

    And Annie was already coping quite well with her grief in Ep1. I think some time has passed between the episodes, so she's had time to start forcing herself to keep going - the presence of a baby and Tom probably helped with that (babies do not have snooze buttons). As for Tom moving into Mitchell's room, that appears to have been several days ago so they would have discussed it then (whoever mentioned that). And she did move Hal into the bridal suite, so I suppose it's another factor of her "carrying on".

    Sorry to burble on, but I've been trying for days not to start answering back about this stuff so it's built up!

  • Comment number 90.

    @mistress denton
    @mods
    @buzzbrain, billybunter, aok666 and all the bloggers awake at 9am GMT

    how did George manage to kill Wyndham ... if he did? LT says he did…Or does he say EW is dead: nuance.
    Personnally, i think it is a clever device to allow EW to show up if the storyline begs for it ... I do not rule out George taking the flak for someone else’s actions.
    If we agree that a pair of twins as original vampires may lead to two clans- did I hear the word ‘clan’ uttered by Fergus following the German composer retort?
    Two brothers, two clans, 2 POVs on the coming of the age of vampires. EW may have been killed by its own across the great divide over vampire politics and George accepts - officially the blame on condition the Wyndham clan protects the household?

  • Comment number 91.

    Griffin said it: "First, its father killed John Mitchell in some sort of ham-fisted gesture of affection, then he killed my predecessor Wyndham."
    And the name for a group of vampires is a "chapter", Fanboy Graham says it in S3 Ep3.

  • Comment number 92.

    Griffin states at the initial vampire meeting that George killed Mitchell and then Wyndham.
    Fergus uses the word plan to Cutler.

  • Comment number 93.

    Time for a rest from studying those damn scrolls,my eyes are starting to misbehave.

    TTFN, Mistress D , Mods and fellow bloggers

  • Comment number 94.

    @billybunter
    thanks
    had heard '...lan' and wondered
    so 'chapter' it is aok666
    but a chapter is more a location
    one cannot but wonder if the first vampire was - two as in two brothers you cannot but have two bloodlines as vampires 'reproduce'
    -one on one- one bite, one sire
    and
    not -two make one- man+woman=1baby
    so you only have two bloodlines all considered, father toson, father to son etc

    and by the way , the last female vamps were Cara who lasted 3 seasons albeit very rarely seen, otherwise we only had Daisy seen 1 season, mentionned the following season and Lauren season one
    but we have had nil female OOs, nil female baddies as such

    are we hearing the word machovamp?

  • Comment number 95.

    Strange that Pearl seems to be up to speed with some aspects of modern life and yet she mistook Annie's leggings for long johns. Or maybe she didn't and her remark was a deliberate insult....

  • Comment number 96.

    Hetty's one of the Old Ones. All the other female vamps we've seen so far have been rather... unstable. No reason why this should apply to all female vamps though.

  • Comment number 97.

    I was watching Prisoners' Wives last night and that Fergus certainly gets around - evil b*stard in that too!

  • Comment number 98.

    Morning all!
    Indeed - Hetty was/is an Old One

    I would love to see a strong, evil female vampire in BH - or even a good female villain. I don't count Lucy - she had potential but went all pathetic after having a fiddle with Mitchell

    We need a female Herrick! Lauren might have done it - she was prepared to challenge him - but she wasn't able to embrace the amorality she woud have needed.

  • Comment number 99.

    Hi Ginger - how are you!?
    I caught JW in that last night but completely missed Fergus - serves me right for trying to six things at once (badly...)

  • Comment number 100.

    @aok
    yes naturally Hettie
    but I do not remember Hettie ever appearing on the DVDs as in extras and surely the DVDs must be looked at as the formal official canon.
    That is the problem with some of our online contents
    Peeps who buy the DVDs but do not go online or live abroad do not get all the informations so 'hettie, yes'. but it may be 'Hettie who?' all in good faith depending on your latitude.
    that is a question for the blogmistress to answer.

    One important scene was the deleted scene of season one showing George and Mitchell meeting Annie for the 1st Time and AT looking so seriously at RT and commenting on blood or no blood. and 'YOU'RE BULKY'

    Happy memories

 

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